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BATMAN HUSH 2 IS DONE! LONG LIVE BATMAN HUSH²!Added:
That man Hush 2 has come to a merciful end.
Not to say that the issue was redeemable, but simply to say that it is merciful that now we can all collectively put this in our rearview mirror, which is what we are here to do today.
Until there's more hush, too.
>> Yeah. Until it's hush squared.
>> Dude, I actually when you're when this video was put up and I saw the title, I laughed out loud.
Did you know you got me >> beforehand?
>> Well, well, we know we knew that there was a continuation coming.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, look, we're going to get into Hush 2, but there are a lot more comics to talk about this week on Palpools. It's a dynamic duo episode. So, it's myself and we've got Tyler.
>> Hello. I'm not Marco. Marco is being uh uh squashed by the corporate world that we live in. Awesome.
Uh, well, not awesome for him, sadly.
No, it's not.
>> Uh, hopefully he's doing okay. Batman 163, uh, Absolute Wonder Woman 20, Superman 38, cover of the week for me.
>> Great cover.
>> Yeah. Flash 33.
The winner of the poll. Thank [ __ ] Swamp Thing 1989 number two. the the wildest poll. It it flu within the last 20 minutes. Three different books fluctuated between the lead.
>> Dude, that was a wild freaking brawl going on in the poll. I loved it. People were pulling their burners out. People were calling family members.
>> I think Pat called his mom.
>> Yeah. Yeah, man. You guys were going in.
Uh Matt Cosmo with a five spot kicking us off. I love that energy, Matt. Uh, prime time major baddy alert. Let's go.
Pick of the [ __ ] week. Let me chill. Thanks for the show, y'all. Wait, who told you you had to chill? It's Thursday after 8. It ain't about chilling. It's about having a fun time.
So, thank you for bringing that energy.
>> Straight up.
>> Like, >> there you go.
>> It's also like, who's the baddy in reference to? Is it Is it the delay or is he talking about Swamp Thing, which is fine.
Uh, well, he he did say prime time.
>> Uh, okay. Okay. Got it. Got it.
>> The ultimates 24. And rounding it out, >> King Spawn 55. Spawn is back on the menu.
Love it.
>> Yes, it is, guys. Yes, it is.
>> Hell yeah. Well, let's get the worst of it out the way, shall we?
Batman. Sorry.
>> Well, don't don't let's not count our chickens before they hatch.
>> You think that there's something on this docket worse than Batman? Hush, Too.
>> I guess not.
>> Yeah. What are we doing here?
>> I know. I can't even keep that bit going. This book was booty cheeks.
>> Benjamin loudly with a five spot said, "Hey, Hushu was really about the journey and the friends we made along the way.
What [ __ ] friends?
>> I feel like I made enemies. Literally, Batman makes enemies of his friends.
This is what the book is about.
>> Well, he does make friends of his enemies. Sort of.
>> Really?
>> That's the premise at least. But I didn't make friends with anybody. This book was alienating.
>> How would you summarize this issue, Sean?
>> I'm about to. If you would let me, I would.
>> I'm just kidding. I'm keying you off.
Jeff Lo and Jim Lee. Writers and Pencellors. Inks by Scott Williams.
Colors by Alex and Claire. Letters by Richard Starkings and Tyler Smith. Two wonderful gentlemen who we know and love.
So, I don't remember what happened in the last issue of Hush.
I don't.
But it doesn't matter because I know what happened in this issue of Hush. And what happened is that Batman and his enemies became loose friends. Why? Because the Bat family has turned their backs on Bruce. Why? You're going to have to figure that one out for your damn self. Batman uses the oldest trick in the book. The Clayface is really someone else or it's really Clayface gimmick. We've seen that a million times. Uh and allegedly supposedly uh Hush was shot in the face and maybe is going to be dead. Batman died and went in a Lazarus pit and is now in love again with Talia Ghoul.
>> I mean, I get that part. That's the That's the most understandable part about this whole book.
>> Yeah, true.
Uh this was uh not not even confusing. Like what's happening on the page is pretty straightforward. In fact, it's boring.
But it's confounding as to like the motivations for anyone. Nobody is in character in this book. It feels Batman isn't. Jason Todd's not. The villains aren't. Hush is doing something. Batgirl is a jackass for some reason. Nobody feels in key to who they are as a character. And it is mindboggling that this book exists. Like I can see from like a macro lens, if I zoom out, this is just an inverse of Hush, you know, Hush was a Batman running the It was like his uh uh uh what was the the Spider-Man thing during Brand New Day where like all the villains the gauntlet? It was his >> Yeah. Hush. Hush. The original Hush was like Batman's gauntlet going through all of his enemies. Jimly drawing it. So, this is just like, hey, what if he fights all of his family members instead and then the villains aren't the good guys. Um, which as like an elevator pitch, sure, maybe something compelling can come with that. This ain't it.
This makes no sense. Nobody's motivation makes sense. The plot doesn't make sense. I don't know what's going on.
Oh man. Uh MP with the 16 months as a channel member says again thank you fraction and co for ignoring hatouch agreed. Uh entertain me with the two bucks money wasted. Hush 163 beginning and garbage. You know entertain me. I seen your punk ass on the blurred without fears channel dropping more bread than you just did. So I'm gonna need you to come correct. All right.
>> Does he also antagonize him?
>> Uh, no. Actually, he doesn't. He just has a he has a a personal deal with me, but it's okay. I I >> you know, I accept it. Um, yeah. No, I echo everything that you said. This book is is is really wildly like inaccurate from a character action standpoint.
Nobody's behaving normally. If you told me that there was some kind of crazy Joker gas that was unleashed that was causing this, I'd believe you because this doesn't add up. You could have told me there was a Joker gas laced into the ink of the comic book that's making me feel like [ __ ] and I would have believed that too, >> dude.
Dude, what I don't get what I don't get is how this is supposed to be like a it it's supposed to be a sequel to Hush 2. And yet everybody everybody in this book acts differently than they acted in Hush.
>> Everybody. and and and not only that, they act differently than they act in Hush, but maybe you can be like, well, they need to act in in continuity for where this book exists at, you know, the end of this Batman volume. No, the [ __ ] they don't. It's nothing in continuity to that. It literally makes no sense the the reasoning behind anyone's actions here. And also, like, you're going to have Batman team up with all the villains, right? That's the premise. And he's fighting his family. Why is the Riddler on the wrong side?
I I don't know.
>> Like I don't know. [ __ ] putting with the villains like he was supposed to be.
I don't [ __ ] get it.
And like it's Jimly art, right? We don't get it often. We get it when he decides to do a variant for the Dark Kn dark Dark Knight Fim fimiles. I can't ever [ __ ] say that word. Um and we'll get it for like variants and stuff like that and promotional art if a new movie comes out. So it is it is great to see Jim Lee doing an interiors on a comic. That being said, kind of bored.
>> Kind of kind of bored with this one, >> man. This was just a dumpster fire, dude. Like, I love Jim Lee so much. I think his art is brilliant. And I'm going to tell you, the weight was not worth it. No, >> this is fine. You know, I I I like to look at Jim Lee's artwork, don't get me wrong, but there's nothing that particularly great here. Like, and and and I would also argue he's not given that much to work with. I don't think the material he's given is that amazing, but I also don't think he's bringing his best. I just don't.
>> I actually did laugh. There's a page where Bane he, you know, that's what Bane does in this book apparently. He just like rushes in to things and he falls over and Jim Lee does has to like everything's like hyperdetailed on these like you know mid to close uh close shots but then we we we expand out for like a small panel and Bane just looks like a mish mash of goo.
>> Wait, you mean are you referring to this?
>> Yeah. Yeah, I have that on the screen too. Yeah. He's just like nothing happens there. Uh, and I like that got a g that got like a bit of a truckle out of me, but not really in a good way. Not in a like, oh, this was what they were going for way. Just like, oh, this is what this book is.
>> Also, I I just don't I don't believe Batman getting stabbed like that. Sorry.
>> And And also, like we're led to believe that this happens before fractions run, right? And then somehow Hush Squared will bridge that in some way. Um, you're telling me that happens and nobody mentions in present day that Batman died?
No, it's not a big deal. Jeez. No big deal. Matt Cosmo with another two spot.
Father, forgive me for I have pulled straight up.
>> Straight up.
>> There's no [ __ ] way you pulled.
There's no way. Talk. You got to you got to convince me, bro.
>> The only way I I think there is something to be said with this being like the most candy of candy comics, but even then, I'm stretching I'm stretching that that that taffy on this.
Like, I couldn't even make that argument.
And I've made some dumbass arguments on the show.
>> And, you know, I actually kind of agree with MP and but I don't know how you would express this. He says Jim Lee should have higher standards for the scripts he draws. I don't disagree with that, but I don't know how you do that.
You can't tell Jeff Lo, hey, the script on this is ass. Well, he didn't get it in time. How do you know?
Um, that seems like this well mean like this has been out. The script has been in process while the book has been out.
So, it's not like he could be like, "Oh, the script's bad. I ain't doing it." He already started it, you know, like it it was started off the the weight of Hush Reunion and like hate it or love it, Hush is a classic Batman story and and it's very accessible and a very accessible Batman story that I think a lot of people have read. So like on paper, Hush 2 is a no-brainer, but man, it feels like this was written by somebody with no brain.
I I honestly like and I'm always the one on here saying let the goats work. Let them come back to the scene of a crime.
>> It it it can often work. This is a time where it just didn't work. It just didn't work. I don't know why. I don't know what Jeff Lob was was dealing with. I think he's tremendously talented. I don't understand this. I don't even know how to get into the weeds about the content of this issue >> because who cares? Yeah. Like every line of dialogue off, every character interaction wrong. Like I just I like I don't know what to say. It's all bad.
And and it's weird because like I don't want to put like the blame on Jeff Loe or Jim Lee. Like it's just a it's not a good comic. And like I can't even say like Jeff Loe can't cook because uh Batman the long Halloween the last Halloween is actually very very damn good and he's almost I feel some of that spark that he had in the long Halloween there. Sure it's not the long Halloween. The long Halloween is my in my opinion the best Batman comic of all time. Um but there's still some like that's still a damn good Batman book.
This is not even a good book.
Absolutely not. Entertain me says two spot. Thank you, brother. Says only the Bruce Talia shippers pulled.
>> I mean, I guess so. Yeah, they were pulling something. That's for sure.
>> What really popped me though was Steve Canera saying this is like 98 Hogan versus Ultimate Warrior Havoc. If you're a wrestling fan and you don't know about that or or World War II and what happened with that, all that [ __ ] is hilarious. What it what essentially he's saying is two goats who come back to the scene of the crime and are expected to make magic happen again and they do the exact opposite.
>> It's DX versus Brothers of Destruction >> in Saudi Arabia.
>> Oh god, that was bad.
>> That's so bad. Replace Terra's Peek immediately >> or or uh was Undertaker versus Goldberg.
>> Oh, >> Undertaker versus Goldberg. At least I believe Goldberg had a concussion or something like that. So >> he concussed himself on the door, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, okay, fine. But the other match, bro, like I >> HP had a retirement, too.
>> That was a I need I need >> that was the best one. He was the best one out of all four. Go back and watch.
He was the best.
>> Ken lost his his his hair. Uh >> and you know what, wrestling fans, that's what Hush 2 is.
>> Sorry, guys. Yeah, it's just we're just so it this book is just so bad. I'd rather talk about bad wrestling. Ivy Moon has been a member for 19 months.
Thank you, Ivy. To think we rush Chip for this this Wonder Woman 31 and Endgame 3 competing for worst comic of the year. But wait a moment, we didn't rush Chip for this. Chip Chip's Chip's run was asked to be a little longer.
Yeah.
>> In order to accommodate the gap >> because this was delayed from when it was originally supposed to start. So, if I recall correctly, the it was the was it the Joker year one stuff that was added? There was something added >> Beast arc.
>> Yeah. And that's why they had rotating artists because they were they they were they had to make all that stuff happen out of nowhere. In Chip's run, there's a point where uh Batman opens up the Alfred home, like the new manor essentially, and it feels like a thematic end to Chip's run, and then it goes on for another year, >> and then like that year >> takes the wind out of the sales of Chip's entire run, and that's because of this book.
>> Yeah, the childish brand needed, right?
This was supposed to finish before fractions run. And now understand this, there will be allegedly a second part.
And I'm telling you right [ __ ] now that second part will not conclude before Matt Fraction is off Batman. It's just not going to happen.
>> That you want to bet on it? Let's do it because that's not happening.
>> I think it just doesn't happen. I think Hush Square doesn't happen.
>> Dude, we could put that on the [ __ ] end of year bet.
>> Oh, it ain't coming out end of year. So, yeah, it could definitely be on there.
Yeah, because I don't think that's happening in 2027.
>> I think that's going to be another one of those all-star Batman and Robin situations, >> you know, like we're just not getting it.
>> It ain't happening. Go.
>> Do they even know what a what a squaring does? Like why' they do the the squared?
>> I don't know. I honestly I saw that before I had read the comic. I thought you were joking. I thought you came up with that.
>> No, I wish.
I was like, "Damn, this [ __ ] is funny."
>> Pat Pat said that, you know, we the the people working on it are saying it's going to come out.
>> Okay.
>> All right. And I believe Tyler, >> I would believe that people will be working on the book.
>> I don't believe it's coming out.
>> That and that too. Like you the people worked on [ __ ] uh All-Star Batman and Robin and then what happened?
>> Yeah.
And Aaron says here, "Nah, Lo still got gas in the tank. I believe in him. So do I. But Lo is one of those guys where it's like it's either hit or miss and it's never really an in between. I guess I just gave a binary situation. Um but it's it's either I really like it or I I hate it.
I mean, bro, I'm I'm I'm told you every week that the LA last Halloween was awesome.
>> Yeah. But I'm also not going to sit here and say this isn't dog water, you know?
Like I don't have faith in Hush. I don't have faith in Jeff Loe writing Hush. No, >> I don't.
>> I'll do it.
>> Cuz even his version of Hush is not the best Hush.
>> Paul Deinis is.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
Can I Can I I As I was looking on this cuz people were making a When this book came out, people were like, "Yo, the League of Comic Geeks, you know, uh uh uh score for it was is rough." So, let's start with 158, which was Hush 2, number one. Essentially, 3.6 out of five. Okay, not that great. Next issue, 3.1.
Next issue, 3.1. All right, at least it stayed there. Oh, next issue 2.8.
Next issue, 2.4. And then it dropped all the way to 1.8 out of >> that. Trajectory is accurate.
>> Yeah. Yeah. cuz I don't think super against it when it first started.
>> I pulled the first issue.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't remember what you guys did, but I pulled it.
>> Sean, I don't remember what I did last week.
>> No.
But look, pass.
This is the last Thursday of the month, so I'm going to go ahead and pass of the month and just get that right out the way.
>> Easy. I don't need Marco stats for this one. Yeah, we're done.
>> Yeah.
>> And bank [ __ ] >> There is a Gary Frank variant to it that is gorgeous and I had on the screen to at least kind of even out the negativity.
Uh Gary Frank, uh, put him on Batman again. That's what I want.
I would love that. I would love to see Gary Frank interiors on some Batman, but uh I think Batman's a little busy.
>> Little bit.
Uh 39% of you said pass. Didn't buy Arena's 37%. Poll is 11%. Okay. And pick of the week is 3%.
I'm not even going to go in on you. I'm going to say congrats.
>> I I'm going to say thanks for watching, Jeff.
>> Yeah. And and you know Yes, exactly.
Ooh, Ivy Moon though, you're actually cooking. Hush or Ultimate Impact? I actually was more disgusted with Ultimate Impact than this cuz I knew what was in the ingredients of this one.
I already know the ingredients. So, when it came out tasting like [ __ ] >> I was like, "All right, well, hey, I did come here." Yeah.
>> Um, >> you're right. And I'm going to switch now to Ultimate Impact. Thank you. Thank you.
>> I like the Ultimate Impact, >> man. So you're saying Ultimate Impact is like when you bite into like a chicken finger and you get like that fatty piece and it's like, "Oh, >> I eat that fatty piece."
>> I thought that was going to be a good ass chicken finger and now it ruined it and now I'm a little iffy on the rest of it.
>> That fatty piece is the difference between a good >> Yeah.
>> home-cooked meal and that's the creator own piece. That's the creator coming to the coming to the work >> and and the garbage mass prodduced [ __ ] that we all must shovel down to try to get to that creator own piece. That's what Ultimate Impact was. That was the McDonald's That was the McDonald's fatty chicken select that you take you bite and you spit out and it reminds you why you stopped going to McDonald's for a year. And yes, I'm talking about me. All right. You don't need to get so so hostilicus about this. All right.
Actually, I know it's specifically the chicken slacks. There was always one.
>> Yes. That had like And you bite into it and it would kind of have like this moisture to it.
>> Ew. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
Yeah. Exactly. Hey, uh there is a big thing happening on Saturday. Um because there's a big thing happening in comics.
Everybody's talking about DC Blackout and I even saw one of the earliest comments here was, "Are we participating?"
Um, no, I'm not. And we're going to talk a lot about it on Saturday. But that you will not see a lack of DC reviews on this uh channel as a result of DC Blackout. Sorry.
>> Uh, not to be shills, but like it's kind of our bread and butter.
>> Yeah.
And also, just so we're clear, as content creators, right, like I I know what what's happening and making content about DC is making content about DC.
Sorry, it's making money off DC. I know game. I peep game. I play game.
>> We'll talk about what I'm looking at.
We'll talk about it outside. You guess?
>> Yeah, actually. Uh, what a boy wonders.
Our boy Chris is going to come on and hang out.
>> Let's go. Let's go. Sick. Tik Tok boy.
Mr. Instagram reels himself.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Comic book tube. That's how I feel, brother. That's how I feel. I can't get on here and lie. Ivy reminded me.
Duke Jayzilla says, "You mean Burger King?" In reference to what? The the the weird chicken select.
>> Yo, have you had the Wendy's chicken fingers yet?
Oh, no.
>> They're good, dude. Very close to a chicken select. I'd recommend, >> huh?
>> It's got the right breading.
>> Oh, that. See, cuz that's the problem with the new one.
>> Exactly.
>> Oh, the the the new McDonald's one.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Cool. Awesome. I got to I got to do that. Thank you, Spidermankey. I appreciate it. Let's keep it rocking and rolling. Absolute Wonder Woman. If you want to hear more of Tyler and I's thoughts on that uh that other topic Saturday we'll we'll get into it more.
>> Oh, we're talking about chicken fingers on the show.
>> Well, we might we can >> um Hayden's hideout with a five spot.
Thank you. Pick of the month. Odin number one. Don't tell Vault. You need Jesus, Hayden. That's that's your issue.
>> Um pass of the month of Earth. Number one >> on Earth felt like it wants to be a show so bad, but the pacing feels too slow for comics.
>> That's that's a that's a smarmy retort on that book. Geez. I mean that in a good way. I like this little little shade in that one.
>> Wow. Okay.
>> Sorry. Chris Cover's comments tender so white.
>> Sean likes a whole Sean likes a whole white breast. I definitely definitely definitely do.
Um, what is what is um [ __ ] where did I where'd that comment go? P what's PDQ?
Rodamus Prime Rib said PDQ are the best senders. What's that?
>> PDQ. Uh, >> I don't even know.
>> Dairy Queen.
That's what I was thinking. Dairy Queen, but I don't know what the P is. Dairy Queen tenders are good. But if you're talking about Dairy Queen, Dairy Queen tenders are good.
>> I don't think I've been to Dairy Queen.
>> That That's going to be their next uh uh ping around. It's It's Chicken Fingers uh tier list.
>> Hey, what's up, Chillmonger? Dude, I was just thinking about you today. That's so weird. I hope you're doing well, brother. All right, Absolute Wonder Woman. Let's get into it. Issue 20.
Issue 20. This is of course written by Kelly Thompson with art by Hayden Sherman, colors by Jordie Belair, and letters by Becca Kerry. Um, so Wonder Woman is doing battle with the Iron Maiden, which is way too cool of a name for what this is, which is essentially a massive robot under the control of uh, Veronica Kale, my favorite Wonder Woman villain, over Cheetah, cuz I just love I love Cheetah as a character, but as a villain, I prefer Veronica Kale.
>> And I have no real history with her cuz I didn't read Ruckers run. So >> Oh, man. Yeah, she's in she's a major part of both of Rucka's runs. So, very well worth your time. But, uh, she manages to do what she's been trying to do, which is capture Wonder Woman. And now they can experiment on her and they put her through the ringer. They put her body through hell. And it takes going to hell for Wonder Woman to be saved from this situation uh with in a very very awesome way where Pphanie is able to convince Hades to save Diana who doesn't actually want to be saved because she wants to save her friend Barbara Manurva who is uh captured and well very likely about to become a cheetah. Tyler, how do you feel about Wonder Woman? Ella's book [ __ ] ruled. So, this is the the finale to this arc. So, essentially, this would be like the end of a trade.
Um, and I really liked it. I thought it it went to some fun places. It it it showed Diana's like like like we know Diana's strong that first arc, she's, you know, fighting with that [ __ ] big old Kaiju [ __ ] uh and we know what she can do, but seeing her actually lose essentially is really interesting because it makes her flawed in a way that like she maybe didn't really quite seem before this.
And she loses twice in this issue. She loses by losing to Veronica Hail. Um Veronica Hail, right? Kale Kale, >> I remember him. Um so Veronica Kale and then she loses because she was going to figure out a way to escape there, right?
and save everyone because she's Wonder Woman. That that is ultimately what she will do. Then she loses again because she gets taken back to hell and now she can't save Manurva, which now that fuels Manurva's turn.
Um, and I like that they're really cooking with the the character dynamics here and the motivations and the little twists here and there. And god damn it, Aiden. That that page where where Wonder Woman punches the Iron Maiden.
Uh yeah, and there's that boom in the text. I love when the text has panel in it. Like I have a tattoo of Daredevil panel that's text, you know? Like I love that [ __ ] Uh and seeing that in this I thought was really rad. So this was o man. Much much like the the the palace poll, I think there were like three books that were constantly shifting in my mind this week for pick of the week.
This was one of them. Um but it is not the one but very close.
>> It is the one for me. Um >> I have been a fan of this story arc. I think it's been quite good and I feel like it's ending in a very at a very high spot. Um because we're getting some critical things that we needed. Um, so first of all, we need to see this version of Wonder Woman take L's.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, and we haven't seen a lot of that.
So, getting that was good. Uh, but also, we need to progress the story of Barbara Anne.
Not that I needed to be rushed. I don't think it's been rushed. I think it's played out at an appropriate pacing. But now's the time to start getting to that place. And now also the way that Veronica Kale flipped it, she made it so that Barbara Anne believes that Wonder Woman left her there.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So the God that she believes in has left her to suffer. So what is she going to be willing to do for her get back? That excites me. I like to see this this um hero or ally to enemy thing go on.
similar to what we're seeing in Absolute Batman.
>> And Barbara Manurva is an archaeologist, so she knows all about the gods from like a historical context. So knowing that one that she was close to ditched her would I can see her then when the god who controls the curse of the cheetah maybe makes contact with her, she might be more akin to be like, you know what, [ __ ] [ __ ] you know, Wonder Woman, I want to get revenge. And that is the story of Cheetah, you know. Um, and I like seeing it from this like ground floor position, you know. Um, yeah. And and and it's and like I also love the call back to the the annual, like last year's annual, not even this year's with the Hades and Panie of it all. I was like, "Oh, yeah. I totally forgot about that. Cool to see that back."
>> Yeah, this is a good show.
>> Yeah, Hades and Pphanie's bit in this was awesome.
I cared so much about their conversation, but I ended up really enjoying it.
>> I think it's because it's a you know it even out of the context of this book.
Like that is myth, you know, and implicitly knowing the the dynamic between Pphanie and Hades and the story behind it. That's what kind of got me into it. Like I didn't need to have that much knowledge of them in the text I've read because I I know it already. And I >> Okay. Well, cool. But like for me it was that because it's like all right, I didn't need all that before because I already have that.
>> Yeah. Um and it was just like a couple pages, not not too long of a of a period. And when I read through it, I was like, "All right, well, what what is this?" And then when Wonder Woman gets dragged to hell by the hand, I went back and I read the sequence again and I was like, "Oh, she was asking for help for Wonder Woman." Yeah.
>> Oh [ __ ] Got it.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and that was awesome.
>> Yeah. And it's also like help from the gods perspective turns out not actually helping Diana, >> right? It's It's always It's always that like curse curse boon situation when you deal with the gods.
>> Well, she asked for help. It's just she asked for that and then it and then she changed her mind.
>> So, she prayed to God for help but got it but didn't want it. And I like that because it takes away like what Tyler's saying is right, but it also removes the the malice or treachery that you typically see with gods. This was typical for Wonder Woman. A god trying to help her, give her a bone, it just goes the wrong way. Like like this is a sequence of terrible events that is going to lead to her best friend becoming her worst nightmare.
>> Yep. Yep.
Um, there was a comment here.
Uh, comic Bon Tube said, "What do you think Praphanie whispered to Hades?"
>> Listen.
>> She said that she'll let him put the Texas Roadhouse cinnamon butter on him.
I'd do whatever if that was the case.
Oh man, this was good stuff. Uh, this is this for me. Pick of the week. I I love when a I love when a character who we see as super super powerful gets chumped out. And if it's by a giant robot, all the better, cuz that's my [ __ ] Uh, great stuff.
>> It is wild how What do we What issue is this again? We're at >> 20. Damn, we're in the 20s for Absolute already. Jeez. Um, I just love how consistent Absolute Wonder Woman is.
Like yes, absolute Batman is is great and I think it's also as consistent, but like I don't know, man. Wonder Woman is like always vying for like between that and Batman for me.
>> I just think Absolute Batman has higher highs.
>> That's fair.
>> Yeah.
>> The things it does that are huge really pop. I think this book doesn't really do huge things. It just does what it does and it does what it does really well. Um let's see. Well, my pick of the week, Tyler said, "Pull, what do you guys say?
Where are you at, dude?" Texas Roadhouse. I need it. I need to go there, bro. I'm dying for it. Um, >> I love how Texas Roadhouse uh doesn't let people who have weak peanut allergies in >> for real.
>> There's peanut shells everywhere. You're not really allowed in. You're going to die. And they don't want liability. So, there's signs everywhere.
>> Are you trolling or >> No, I'm not. Like, cuz they give you peanuts as well, and you're allowed to like just throw it on the floor. That's kind of the bit of the place.
>> I've been there. I've eat I ate there.
[ __ ] was mad good. I don't remember peanuts. But >> you don't have an allergy, so you don't have to worry about it.
>> I I do. I have a severe peanut allergy.
>> And you survived?
>> Yes.
>> Damn. Bill different.
>> Whenever I eat at Five Guys, I get a headache.
>> Really? Un Okay. I haven't been to the Texas Roadhouse in a while. So maybe they got rid of that that thing. That was a thing though.
>> Okay. Well, 58% of you say this is a good thing. Pick of the week. 31%.
Didn't buy a read 11%. Nobody passed.
Nobody passed. CW Gordon says Sean just out here allergic to the world. Dude, I'm Bubble Boy. I It's not a joke. I You're You're totally right.
>> This week has been rough, too, for allergies, man. I don't know about you, but man.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's dog [ __ ] man. Sucks.
It's hard to be uh It's hard to be excited about the world when you're just [ __ ] sneezing and coughing and all that. I want you to cosplay as Bubble Boy and try to do interviews at conventions.
>> Julian Thomas says, "Lmao, what the [ __ ] You for sure get peanuts." I didn't say you don't get peanuts. I said I don't remember the peanut whole deal.
I If I ate peanuts at Texas Roadhouse, I'd be able to tell you cuz I would have had a very bad reaction.
>> You got a EpiPen?
Uh, >> I mean, I own them, but I I'm sure I didn't have it on me at the time.
Um, let's talk Superman.
>> Sorry. Strong got damage vulnerabilities to every damage type.
>> Just about, Tyler. Just about.
Uh, Superman number 38.
This is written by Joshua Williamson with art by one of the gods, Dan Mora.
Colors by Alejandro Sanchez. Ariana Mayor on the colors.
Well, the cover doesn't lie. Well, it kind of lies. Uh, we do get Prime, Superman Prime, Super Boy Prime, and Witchfire together. They do. She is the, you know, I don't know if you want to say antagonist, I guess, uh, to some degree for this issue. Yeah.
>> Um, >> but seeing them together is really interesting. There's a dynamic between them that evolves throughout the issue.
It very quickly becomes a lot more than them facing off with each other. The art in this issue is absolutely stunning. Uh Dan Moa just at top tier level, but something happens to Prime where and it's very subtle and it happens throughout the issue. Um, and that's one of the reasons why this was almost my pick of the week. But you start to notice that Prime's dialogue is a little [ __ ] His dialogue sometimes there there are misspellings in it there.
There are lines just don't quite add up.
And then he ends up >> on a an actual drawn page, like a Dan Mora uh uh page that Dan would actually be drawing on. And he faces off with a I mean, somebody's going to tell me why this makes sense, but was random to me. Manchester Black.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, and we get a very cool, very, very cool cliffhanger for Super Boy Prime Versus Infinite Crisis.
>> This is my pick of the week.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, I had so much damn fun with this book. You know, I've I've said how much I love Super Bowl Prime. Uh, and then finally getting to like sit with him and live with him for a bit. It's just been a load of fun. But the way this plays with the medium of a comic, I think is really really goofy and and kind of revolutionary cuz look at that page that you brought up, Sean. I have it on the screen >> where you know he gets pulled through the page. The previous page is an ad that has been all in all the other issues, all the other books this week, but in this one it's functional because Super Boy Prime is getting pulled through the ad >> to the to the next page. And it's like through cuz like the other because I uh in the page if you flip it, it's you're seeing the opposite page through it.
Like you're seeing through the page almost cuz it's it's showing you.
>> Oh [ __ ] I didn't even clock that.
>> Yeah.
>> What the [ __ ] >> Yeah, cuz that's the page on the other side. Like if you like it's it's working in three dimensions. That is wild to me.
>> It's not multiple lined up, but it's very close.
I've never I That's crazy, dude. It's It's literally using that page as a three-dimensional space that he travels through to get to this Manchester Black area that is in his mind. And man, it's so good. That page, you know, it has the DC um boundaries and dimensions for a page with Dan Moira's actual art uh art notes on it, which I think Chris cover Chris mentioned on on Twitter, and Dan Mo replied. He's like, "Yeah, that's what I was doing for that day." Um, >> that's just rad. That's like This is This is what I I love.
Fourth wall breaky stuff can be annoying. It could be Deadpool sometimes, but it could also be this.
And I think this is just a lot of fun.
And like this is after a damn good issue of a Superman comic, too. um with you know Super Boy Prime and Witchfire going to a goth club that Jimmy Olsson happens to be at and uh fighting some demons at one point. Super Boy says, "Hey, what is this? A Vertigo comic?" I popped. I That was funny. Um yeah, man. This is this is my jam. And it's so cool that Williamson has been doing Superman for a while now, >> and this arc has breathed new life into a book that was already good.
And now it's just like great for me.
>> Yeah. You know what? I think you might have convinced me, dude, because I think I got to change my pick of the week. This this book was gas, but then when I know when cuz you just pointed it out to me. I didn't even catch that ad thing. That's insane. And then on top of that, the note being Dan Moore's real note. That's just ridiculous. The the the everything about this issue for me was fantastic. That definitely takes it over the top. Yeah, it's it's something I've not seen in comics before.
>> And and and and and does anybody know does anybody know where you can find someone cosplaying as Witchfire? Because I need to see that.
>> Let's see what Heroes Con has, you know, Heroes Con might. You never know.
>> Yeah, we need to go to Heroes Con.
Actually, I'mma put the I'mma put the pals on it. Can we find at Heroes Con the Witchfire cosplayer? There was I think it was like two New Yorker were comic cons ago where there was a a Phoenix cosplayer and you were like, "Tyler, you got to get me a picture with her right now."
>> Oh, yeah. Oh, I made it my business to take a picture with every Phoenix I saw.
>> Yeah.
>> And I might do it again.
>> You know what? You're at least consistent, Sean.
>> Oh, yes. Oh, yes, I am. We all know. We all understand.
Uh, Patrick Zay says they will not be at Heroes Con.
>> Wow. No faith. No faith.
>> Why not?
>> Putting cold water on you. Damn.
>> Yeah. Come on now. Thank you. Everybody get busy on that. Christian, are you going to be at Heroes Con? Who's going to Heroes Con? Let me hear from you.
>> I'm >> Yeah, man. We're all booked.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Come on now. Uh, Shalom Warberg.
What's up, brother? Good to see you.
says Super Boy Prime needs an ongoing series after Reign of the Super Boys ends.
>> Actually, good point that I just realized. I don't care that Superman's gone. I'm not missing >> Not when it's this good. N >> Yeah, I don't miss him at all.
>> Yep. Not when it's this good. This is like when Steve Rogers was gone from Captain America and replaced by Bucky. That book to me stayed [ __ ] awesome. or when Batman got replaced by Dick Grayson. That book stayed awesome.
>> I love that.
>> Some of us would have would have liked Wow. Some of us would have liked >> to see more of that to see more of those stories. So, >> yeah, >> this may end up being on that on that tier. Uh, pick of the week. I switched.
It's my [ __ ] show, too. I'm switching.
>> All right, I'll allow it because I also had it as my pick. So >> So, Marco, you're going to have to hold that, brother. I don't know what you're going to do.
>> He's not here to dispute the stats. So, >> [ __ ] I forgot to put the poll up.
That's my fault. People, I'm going to get it up now. And I because I I still want to know where you all land with this uh with this issue of Superman because uh to me, this was excellent.
>> Uh what is your number? 38. Yeah, >> this is 38. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, we could talk about we didn't we didn't talk about the the cliffhanger that if we get Go ahead. Super Boy gets punched back into Infinite Crisis territory, which like when I saw that page, I was like, "Oh shit."
Um, it like unlocked something in me that I forgot about really. Um, but man, I was like going back to the Infinite Crisis era, which is when I was starting to get into DC comics as like a week- toeek reader. Um, it was like just slingshotting me back in time in a good way.
>> Yeah, dude. Um, there was just so much to love with even with that because like meta stuff is often just the worst.
But like Joshua Williamson is is is riding the lightning in such a way where I'm not sure there's anything he could show me that I wouldn't be excited for because it's all landing. Like there's no reason for me to even question it cuz it works.
>> Yeah.
>> MP with a 499. Thank you. MP says, "You think Prime will get his own series after Reign of the Super Bowl/K Kingdom of Zod ends?"
>> I I hope so. Or throw him prominently on a team, you know. Um the other thing is too, like I like the way Joshua Williamson writes Super Boy Prime. Would I like him outside of Williamson's pen? I don't know.
But I do like the character. Yeah, that was going to be my point of like, yeah, I'm sure it would be good if it was Williamson writing it, >> but I'm not as sure how much I care about it for a writer who doesn't care about the character as much or have as much of a connection to them or whatever. That being said, if you can get Williamson to write it, Yeah. then Yeah. Actually, you know who would be a fun writer on it? Al Yuing.
Al has an understanding of like DC lore and inner workings that I think could be a lot of fun uh to play with Super Boy.
>> Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if Al and Josh are the same kind of nerd.
>> Fair. Fair.
>> Uh Josh is an action figure nerd.
>> Al Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y E Y Eing is an encyclopedia nerd.
>> And those produce very different writers.
>> True. Yeah, >> for sure. Yeah.
>> Uh Ivy says, "I think he will end up on Legion of Superheroes." I think that's a very good bet.
>> Which is a Williamson book, actually. I like that. Yeah, cuz Legion should have a Super Boy.
>> Yep.
>> Okay.
Cooking.
>> I like that a lot. I like that a lot.
All right, let's talk about the next book on the docket, and that is The Flash.
>> You want to close that poll first? Oh yeah, thank you. Let's get that poll closed. Let's see where you guys landed.
Wow. Holy crap. 41% of you pick of the week.
31% poll. That is a huge number.
>> 24% didn't buy a read and 4% say pass.
Wow.
CW Gordon makes a good point as well. It would make sense why Legion is so late compared to the other Next Level books.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Cuz it wouldn't it like it wouldn't make sense for it to come until Super Boy Prime is at the place to to be the leader.
>> It's cool that Williamson is is in continuity giving himself time.
>> Sure.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> We We don't even know what an artist on that book is yet either. So, we got a while.
>> No.
Tyler passed. Tyler was probably the lone passer in that.
>> The phantom passer.
>> Oh, he says someone else did. Okay. I don't know. I'm not a math guy. They don't have me on here for my math skills. What they have me on here for is to tell you the creative team behind Flash 33.
Uh Ryan North and Gavin Gry. When are we going to get the Ryan North, Gavin Gry interview? What's up with that? How do we get that?
>> Probably. Uh, well, we can we can guilt we can guilt Gavin in person soon. So, >> yeah. Yeah. Adrianiano Lucas on colors, buddy on letters. Uh, so the Flash has been running around saving a lot of people from trying to kill themselves, but not really, just to make money. Um, and we figured out, well, they figured out that there was a big a very rich person behind this with an agenda. And they needed to find this bomb, this nuclear bomb that was hidden somewhere in Central City. And of course, only the Flash can find it, except for the fact that it's actually Captain Cold. Well, it's Captain Cold who helps Flash stop the bomb, but it's Linda who figures or who gives Flash the idea of where the bomb likely is. Uh, of course, our hero saved the day. Bomb is no more, but the problems don't stop there. Uh, but the Flash has a new weapon in his arsenal, and that is the fact that his flashes of insight are now a power that he can control.
Yeah.
>> So, that's a level up where I'm concerned.
Uh, I think this is the best issue of the run so far. I thought it was a really fun end to this arc.
Um, right off the bat, you know, Gavin gets to draw a giant splash page of of Wall-E running. Uh, which probably a load of fun. The way he draws the uh the hand motion, too. I thought was great.
Um, but it lets Ryan North have Wall-E internalize like like have an internal monologue and really helps me separate because in my mind like when I've been reading comics, I've read a lot of Barry. I've not read a lot of Wall-E. Um, and so reading this character's internal monologue really helps me understand who he is. Like he's having a bit of a nervous breakdown. You know, he's like overanalyzing everything. He's over overthinking this entire situation and he's like catching himself in it. Like I've had those types of thoughts before. Sure, there's not a nuke involved most of the time, so it's not quite this. Um, but it was fun. It was a good thing. And I think there's just a lot of fun gags throughout this book, like when uh he has to break his one of his rules and run into people's like personal space and like there's people [ __ ] that he has to like run past. Uh, I think it's fun. And I love the that Captain Cold gets to do Captain Cold things in here because Captain Cold is one of the best DC Comics characters.
and seeing him like be antagonistic but also an ally is like such a sweet spot that I love Captain Cold being in. Uh this was the other book that was vying for pick of the week for me.
>> Sure. Yeah, this was this was a strong uh entry for sure. I think issue one and this one uh have been have been really strong for me. Um, I really am happy that they didn't go with one of the rogues as the first antagonist for this arc or for, you know, I I appreciate the fact that it's actually him teaming up with a rogue and not facing a rogue. And I also like the fact that Ryan North to this point is figuring out ways to put Flash in unique situations that his powers cannot just overcome.
>> Yep. because that's got to be a really challenging thing to do. And I I personally feel like I watch Sci Spurer struggle to do that.
Whereas here, Ryan North is just sort of thinking a little bit outside the box.
Like it doesn't take a genius to figure out put a bomb in a bank because the Flash can't see through walls. So how's he going to know that it's there? Like that kind of [ __ ] and then have him figure out figure that out. That kind of stuff is what I want to see. And Ryan North is one of the best writers at that. Another one is the guy Tyler mentioned earlier, Al Yuie. But Ryan North is a genius when it comes to taking does it in Fantastic Four.
>> Yep. every issue is that >> it's a it's a problem that must be solved which like I know sounds basic but it's not like like this is this is it's almost revolutionary for this book because it is really like hey this is what needs to be fixed how does he fix it instead of just being this big story you know which not saying one is better than the other but that's just what this book is and I like how there's like those little twists where it's like oh the Flash wouldn't look in the bank vault because that's something a villain would do and he didn't even think about you know, right? Um, and like the question of like how he gets in the bank vault, that's not a question. He's a flash. Of course, he's going to be able to get in there. Probably vibrate himself in or he'll just steal the keys like he does in this. Like if he just needs to get in, he'll figure it out.
But just knowing that is the trick. And that's why he's really in Wally's head that I think it's just a lot of fun.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, Wall-E I never had much care for Wall-E. I've definitely been a Barry guy, but um this is making me actually like Wall-E. Yeah.
>> And like get in tune with his character cuz it's not just him, it's his family as well. It's his relationship with Captain Cole and how he treats him.
>> Um you know, it's it's it's all of these things. It's always character focused for a character who is a power set. Like not I'm not trying to say that there's no Wall-E character. I'm saying that when you think about the Flash, the [ __ ] main thing you think about is how cool his power is.
>> Yeah.
>> This is making me care about the man.
>> And the problem with Barry, I think, is that he's so smart that he can read Richards his way out of a situation, you know?
>> Um Wally, no offense, he's not like like he's listening. Um but he but he's kind of a more average guy and and I I think that's more compelling. Honestly, >> it's way more compelling. And I think it makes for stories that allow for things like this to happen. For Linda to be the one to have a bright idea, >> for Captain Cole, for him to have to rely on Captain Cole to help stop that bomb. Cuz the Flash really fast not >> this version of Flash not able to just deconstruct the nuclear bomb.
>> Yeah.
>> Whereas maybe if it was Barry, you have him figuring it out cuz he's a genius.
But I also like how the solution to disrupting a nuclear bomb is freeze it.
Just freeze it, then freeze this component and pull this thing out. Like, okay. Like, I thought it was more complicated than that. But that's fine.
>> You know, it probably is, but what are you going to do?
>> Watch how you speak on Wall-E, says Pat.
>> I'm saying good things about Wall-E. I'm pro Wall-E here, guys. Chill, chill, chill, daddy. Chill. Um there's a there's a page when when Wall-ally, you know, runs up the building to break into this, you know, CEO's building or whatever where uh Gavin chooses to like like it's an intense scene and then once he sees CEO, it goes into like really dark shadows that like gives this like almost Batman feel to the Flash that is distinctly different than the way he looks in the panel above >> because the tone has changed. I really thought that was a good little switch there on the art that was like, "Okay, cool. tonal shift, visualizing that tonal shift with the actual text of it all, >> man. Gavin was the perfect choice for this uh for this story.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, it's just it's just perfect.
Like, I love the fact that it's got that kind of classic feel to it. It makes Wall-E in a weird way. No, I don't even know that it's weird. It feels like I'm looking at like silveragey art with a modern flare. And I think that's how Wall-E ought to look. I think that's how a Wall-E book ought to look. You can't do it every time, but I think Gavin's style is is bringing that energy.
>> And and you know, shout out to Adriana Lucas, too, on colors because I think there's something to the colors that actually really helps the art. Um because flash pops in every single panel he's in because the color um the palette for the whole book is very cool colors. It's a lot of blues, a lot of purples, and you know, it's which lets the distinct warm, sharp, bright yellow and bright red really pop in contrast to everything else, which is like like even if you look at the the same page I mentioned where, you know, Wall-E, you know, breaks through that window, it's the bright yellow cre for the sound effect really pops out. Wally really shows up because he's in that cool broom corp uh cool blue room corporate energy sort of situation. And there's that like kind of a mix of those color palettes in the background with like the the purplish and the yellow that's kind of I mean I I was really digging the colors in this too.
>> Yeah. Yeah, definitely. This is just a great package overall. Like it's a really strong title and you know DC has a few books now in their arsenal that are just really high quality. Like think about the fact that almost every mainline member of the Justice League has an awesome book.
Superman has an awesome book.
>> Well, yeah. The title is Yeah.
>> Batman has an awesome book.
>> Wonder Woman.
>> Wonder Woman. Well, I don't like Wonder Woman, but you do. I'm not the world.
So, I'll include it. Wonder Woman.
>> Uh, Aquaman. I think Emperor Aquaman's real good. It's very interesting. Yeah.
>> Green Lantern has been fantastic for a while now. And you can't include Martian Manhunter, but oh wait, he's got an absolute book that's fire.
>> True. Yeah. And this book, this issue has a Dan Hip Sonic Hedgehog variant >> that is badass. I think Gavin tweeted about it. He's like, "My son must is going to be so [ __ ] hyped for this thing."
>> Um, that's funny.
>> That's rad. That's rad. Dan Hip, great.
>> Yo, that actually is a ridiculous cover, though. He does those uh Marvel Snap Cards. He's got like the whole variant side on that.
>> I quit that [ __ ] game a while ago.
>> I I looked at it recently. I'm like, I don't this doesn't make any sense to me anymore.
>> Yeah, pass on that. But pull on this strong pull on this book.
>> Yeah, >> it's an excellent issue.
>> 61% of you agree. Agree. Um didn't buy a read is 35%. Pick of the week is 4% and pass is 0%.
>> Whoa. A a real zero on pass.
>> Love to see it.
>> The Phantom Passer passed away.
>> I hope so. Talking Pine Tree says, "Fuck including Wonder Woman in this, but she has Absolute, so we're still winning."
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. If you extend if you extend to Absolute, then my god, it's just crazy.
>> So those books do better.
Sorry, >> those books do matter though. The epsilon.
>> Uh, look, Tyler, only specific things matter and other things don't matter.
All right.
>> Okay. All right. Well, we'll talk about it.
>> Okay. Uh, we put up a poll every single Thursday at 5:00 p. a.m. Eastern and it is what allows you guys to add a book to this show. And last week you voted in droves one of the highest voted in polls we have ever done. Nearly 700 votes and Swamp Thing 1989 number two took it with 31%. The tan number two was 29%.
Infernal Hulk was seven. Nobody cared about Doom Quest this week, but okay.
Watch it be in your poll, too.
Hey, look, I don't know. Maybe. Um, I want to see that same energy for this poll, the poll we've got up right now.
Can we break that 700? I would love to see us break 700. Now, there is an uphill battle because I [ __ ] up. I put an absolute Green Lantern book on this poll. Green Lantern 15. You know that I banned Green Lantern from the poll, but I broke my own ban. Big mistake. It's 43% of the vote right now. That can change. You've got Only the Savage Are Left number one. That's a new image number one. Mighty Morphin Power Rangers number one. And She Spawn number two.
Those are your other options. Let's get an indie book on there. Huh?
>> Mercury Bennett doing uh Power Rangers as well.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> Yes.
Um, entertain me. I [ __ ] it up, dude.
I did. I He said, "Sean, I believe you said no more Absolute Green Lantern in the poll. Now we will miss out on She Spawn. It's my fault."
>> I mean, you still might get spawned.
>> Who knows?
>> Yeah, it's possible.
>> It's possible. Possible. And And the poll's not over. People can vote.
>> True.
>> Let's make it a real fight. Even though like out of all those I want to read Absolute Green Lantern because I I am reading it and ultimately if it wins that's okay.
>> Fine.
>> Um I just would really like to read something else.
>> You want an actual slobber knocker. You don't want DX versus Brotherhood. Uh Brothers of Destruction.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And and like you know we always hear complaints from people, oh you guys don't review enough indie comics and we put the [ __ ] on the poll and you don't vote for them. I want to hear that.
>> It's true.
>> But let's talk about the book you did vote for. Swamp Thing 1989.
>> Number two.
Uh this I'm getting flamed right now.
>> That's your I mean you did make a rule lantern and then you [ __ ] up. It's fine. We all [ __ ] up.
>> I I I I'm on here admitting it. I'm not even arguing with you. I'm on here telling you guys I made a mistake.
>> You know who also [ __ ] up?
>> Who?
>> Marco. for being on the episode with with Swamp not being on the episode with Swamp Thing. It feels like a a common occurrence now.
>> Yeah, because didn't we review something else with Swamp Thing that he missed?
>> Yeah, he keeps missing the Swamp Thing.
>> What's up with that?
>> He's dodging his boy. I think fake fan alert, man. I think we might be bigger Swamp Thing fans than Marco.
>> I've probably never missed a review of a Swamp Thing book on here.
>> Same.
Same. Uh Rick Vich on the the words, Tom Mandre on the art, Trish Moleville on the colors, Todd Klene on the letters.
Swamp Thing is going through a trans dimension. Not dimension, but like time jump.
>> He's doing a time warp, baby.
>> Yeah, he sure is.
And there's this piece of amber that's making this happen for some bizarre reason. And there are other people who are also uh dislocated from or or dis fixed from time unfixed from time.
Meanwhile, Abigail Arcane is having a baby >> raw style >> and we got to see hell.
>> Yeah. The best part of this issue for me by far was when Swamp Thing like came out of that [ __ ] hourglass.
>> Yeah, >> that was really cool.
>> [ __ ] Thronos.
>> Yeah, that was sick as hell. And he looked awesome. Like the art for that was really awesome. Everything else kind of was like eh the first issue was really interesting. Now I'm like h I don't know. I I like the first issue of this a little more because it was a they focused on one setting and story based on your summation alone, Sean.
That proves how how much this book kind of jumped around this issue. Um, and I found that to be a little less compelling. That being said, I did enjoy the issue, though. Um, seeing uh Constantine uh doing his uh his his his bisexualness with [ __ ] uh what is it? Uh uh [ __ ] Jason Blood, right?
>> Uh and Jason Blood's like, "Hey man, thanks for helping me out. Sometimes I got to, you know, I got I gota I got to bust one out real quick when I'm on Earth. You know, I can't really do it in hell, so I appreciate you." Like that one. I think I think I love when Constantine is in the Swamp Thing world in within that that that view and he's always like the guy that either puts Swamp Thing in trouble or gets him out of it in the stuff I've read.
>> So I I did like that in this um and I thought the actual like Swamp Thing getting like shoved through time through and through and through and through time like we're going all the way back to the big bang. It this book starts with a bang with Constantine and ends with the bang with the big bang. Um, and I like that and I like the idea of The Shining Knight kind of being the tether to try and pull him back. Um, this felt of a time that is not 2026, but I mean in a good way. Uh, and I and I generally enjoyed it.
>> CW Gordon, what is wrong with you, bro?
God. God. Etregan the demon. It's time for Jason Blood to be busting semen.
A true seaman demon.
>> Oh my god.
>> Oh, well, there's comment of the week, that's for sure.
>> Yeah. Yep. You're going to have to win comment of the week.
>> You're going to have to win that. Um, yeah. Yeah, you're right. I forgot about the the the trip through hit through time backwards. That was that actually was fire. I love that part.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, that was really cool. Um, seeing him see the dinosaurs. I love that kind of thing. Like, man, this that was that was all awesome. I guess I I don't know what part of this I felt didn't work for. You know what? To be honest, I fell asleep reading this.
>> No, it's one of those situations. I've done that. I've done that. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's there's a lot going in this issue. Like we see Anthro, which like that's a deep DC cut. We see like the this is a a new set of characters.
It was the uh the future hippies. What are they called? Uh [ __ ] It was like um Jude his name was. And it was like this group of like futuristic hippies or whatever that fine shining night. It's like there's a lot in here and a lot of stuff I don't know about. Um, but the fact that it it does all that and then it ends on the cliffhanger of Anton Arcane coming back and he's still in like from like Alan Moore's run where he's in hell and he's like that mound of demon flesh and he's like kind of decrepit and gross. Um, but yeah, I think I think there's a lot going on in this issue which knocks it down a peg, but I did enjoy it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think if it was just a little more streamlined, it would have been better for me.
>> And I think it's hard like I just can't read a comic that was written in 1989 8:00 p.m.
>> You got a time limit on this >> or 10 p.m. Like I can't cuz I'm going to sleep.
>> You need your prime time stuff then.
>> Yeah. Like I got to read that like when I wake up in the morning. Like >> it's radio. Yeah, it has to be. It h otherwise it's going to be my nappy my nappy uh read is what it ultimately was.
>> That cheaper older paper, too. So, you were probably like stmming out on there.
It was It was It was lonely asleep.
>> Stmming out.
>> You don't stim out?
>> No, >> I'd be stimming out all the time, dude.
>> Yeah, but don't you have a condition?
>> Says who?
>> You.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Sean, I got a lot of conditions.
>> Me, too. Obviously, I'm a bubble boy.
>> Hey, what's up, Maddie? Good to see Wonder Maddie in the chat of Nearman Condition, which just celebrated their 10th their 10y year anniversary. We will be celebrating 10 years of the comics piles a little later this year.
>> Oh, >> but uh >> not me.
>> Yeah, >> I won't celebrate.
>> No, not you.
>> I wasn't there. No.
>> Um, but that means that I've grown up not grown up watching not only Omar but also Wonder Maddie.
>> Uh, this was this was a poll for me.
>> Pause on that one.
>> That was for her.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> I'm sure I'll get a text about it, but that's okay. Let me get the poll up.
Sorry about that, guys. Um, yeah, the art was really good, though. I thought in this >> the I I love the idea of like Swamp Thing throughout time needs to find some form of vegetation to tether himself to.
>> So like in in the the when he's in ancient Egypt, he can only tether himself to like pieces of vegetation that's within these sands of the hourglass and then eventually they find an oasis and he find and then he goes back to like the time of like Anthro and he's essentially like the wicker man.
>> Yeah.
>> Um I was expecting Anthro to say like not the bees, not the bees. Um, but seeing how he and like and then he's in the big bang and he can't tether himself anymore because there is no vegetation anymore in the air. I thought that was great. It's a lot of fun.
>> Yeah, this is good stuff. Entertain me says Sean. You actually grew up could have fooled me. Don't you see my beard?
>> Yeah.
>> Come on now. And by the way, I've been able I've been growing this beard.
Entertain me since I was about 14 years old.
>> I'm still trying. I like hold my nose and I blow and it just hurts instead.
>> Dude, I looked at a picture of myself from 16 when I was 16. I was like, "Who the [ __ ] is this grown man? What is happening here?"
>> You got First of all, I looked absolutely miserable, which is accurate. But second of all, who's all that beard about?
Jesus Christ. Shave. Um, this was really good poll.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm happy this won the poll.
Uh, thank you uh uh Pat Z and all the Zaniacs out there.
>> The Zaniacs.
And also also Pat, if you've got all these connections, where are the subs? You need to get these people hooked up.
Why are you just getting them to vote?
Come on now. Help the cause.
Um, I don't want to cook. Entertain me back.
I don't know why. I just don't feel like it. Maybe I'm in a good mood tonight. I just don't >> You had that call with him and he realized like, "Oh, this guy, he's gonna get me.
>> He's scary." And I don't know what he looks like.
>> I know.
>> That's [ __ ] disturbing, dude.
>> It's like the the kid in class with a trench coat. You got to be nice to him.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's my best friend, >> dude. Okay. I don't I could probably I I can name there was a guy in my high school who was that kid and he wore a trench coat to like the last week of class his senior year and his name is identical to somebody's name who might currently write Wonder Woman currently.
Um and same exact name. Um we were like TK's in the house. That was like a thing in high school. I I was chill with him but there were signs and people were worried. And once he wore the trench coat the last week people were like yo [ __ ] what the [ __ ] I made sure to be like kind of cool with everyone just in case.
>> Yeah, I I I call the cops at that point or I just don't go to school. Actually, I'm not I'm not really big on calling the cops on people, but I'm just not going to school. If there's somebody walking around school with a trench coat and it's the end of the year, which means it's June, if you're wearing a trench coat to school in June, >> Exactly. Exactly. The only thing I have to say to you is, "Hey, I hope you're having a wonderful day." Which is >> and I'm your best friend.
>> Which is what I said to him. I'm like, "Uh, Tom, you know, I think it's a great I think you're the new look. What were you trying new look?" He's like, "Yeah, my dad gave me and I figured I'd try try it out last day class." And I was like, "Shit. All right, best friend. Looking good."
I hope he's doing all right, though. He was He was a good kid. He was just like he'd have snafoos like where he called the teacher mom once.
You know, like in all guys high school.
Yeah, that was blood in the water. He was jump in the water with that one.
>> All guys high school.
>> Yeah, I went to a Jesuit high school.
Sean, >> that's >> we learned about community service and finding out why priests came from different dascese.
>> Emphasis on came.
>> Wow, that's beautiful.
>> Didn't pick me though.
>> All right. Uh, didn't buy a read 46% pass 36%. Pick of the week 11% and Oh no, poll was 36%. Pick of the week is 11% and pass is 7%.
Very good. Make sure you guys are voting in these polls. Vote in these polls. I want to see what you're thinking.
Everybody can vote. Everybody should vote. It's free to vote.
Um, what are we on now? Ultimates. Ooh, let's get to the meat of it.
Hey, Ultimus 24.
Yeah, this is written by Dennis Camp, of course, with art by Juan Fggerary, colors by Federico Blee, letters by Travis Lam. The the crew that started it is the crew that ends it, as it should be.
So, remember that time a really long time ago when the Ultimates got trounced by the Hulk?
Um, >> I was there for that.
>> That was cool. Yeah, that was cool. You want me to show you a lie?
>> Sure.
>> This cover lie.
That doesn't happen.
Um, the ultimates in this issue are essentially not I mean most of them are not present, but it's essentially a She-Hulk story where she's going to face off with Hulk, which is something that I think we we probably could all be excited about.
Except wait, you forgot about the kid the kid who's supposed to be uh Iron Fist.
>> Shani.
Shani Iron Fist. Shi fist.
>> What Marvel really wants.
>> And that not She-Hulk, not Cap, not Iron Man, not Spider-Man, not even the Wasp is the first person to encounter the Hulk.
someone who I guar damn tee you nobody reading this was waiting for him to do anything because I have not been reading 24 issues of the Ultimates for that and that my friends is how I am starting this review Tyler go ahead I I kind of was waiting for it uh with Shani because I it it was like the first new character that uh Dennis Camp introduced in the uh the post Hulk post issue 12 in Ultimates 2.0. Um and we got Resolution sort of to Guardians of the Galaxy and Endgame. So I knew these guys had to come back. I knew Danny was with him at the same point. So like I knew had to come back. This is the last issue unless it's going to come up in Ultimates, you know, Endgame, whatever.
Um so I knew it had to come back. Um, but I actually kind of like this issue. I'm being honest. I thought it was pretty damn good, actually. I I It doesn't quite feel like an ending to Ultimates.
It feels like an ending for this Hulk and She-Hulk interaction and not really a clean bow wrapped around what I felt camp was doing with ultimates proper.
But I thought it was a good issue and I like the I I I have to view it in a camp lens. So, I did like the messaging behind it and what I what I pieced out from that.
Uh yeah, I mean all that like everything the issue wants to do is cool.
Um my problem is the fact that I have been waiting the entirety of this series to see the fight that is on the cover and that just doesn't happen. Like when he kills them and we see that >> Yeah. the implication like it's almost like a contract was presented right then and there of you want to see this finish, right? If you sign this, I promise you I'm going to show you that later.
>> That's what that moment was. And that doesn't happen. I feel like Dennis Camp broke the contract that I signed with him.
And it's frustrating because that was the thing I was hanging my hat on with this book. like, okay, I haven't loved these few issues, but they're eventually going to face the Hulk. We're going to see them get that one one big win, and it's going to validate everything that came before, and that just doesn't happen, man.
>> Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. It's almost like, you know, getting the uh Cody losing to Roman at WrestleMania, right?
And you like, all right, I got a year of him finding a way of getting that that belt back, but then he gets it from someone else.
>> Yeah.
>> It's that kind of like it it doesn't I don't see the thematic through line, not thematic, but the plot through line there, the character-driven through line there. And I think that's fair. And I think that is just a a a byproduct of what this universe has become and it ending. Um because I I can see a world where that actually does happen. It's just it's just not this. Um but at least the key element to that conflict was She-Hulk because Hulk did take over her her land, her people, and did all of that. So, I at least like that at least she's the one to do it.
Um, so there is some cleanliness there and it it it it's an ending to that conflict that was brought up in that issue, not necessarily the one where the Ultimates fight them. Does that make sense?
>> Yeah. It it it just feels it just feels like like I just can't give this series that kind of grace because even though you're right, I can't ignore what I saw. Sure.
>> And I I'm I'm I'm really struggling with why Dennis can't like if you're the writer and you have the ability to construct this story in any way you possibly can, how is the Hulk not the mini boss before they go inside the dome.
>> Yeah. For the maker. Yeah.
>> Or the mini boss that the people outside of the dome are dealing with the whole time. Not just this issue. He's just been a talking head in this whole Endgame era.
>> Yeah.
>> Him being the Hulk.
>> Yeah. Which I think this this is only more proof that like this is not planned, you know? This was not always the plan, the the ending it in 24 issues. Do you know what I mean?
>> Uh I disagree. I think I think I don't think that this is evidence of that necessarily because even if even if that were the case, you still had the ability at any moment to do this differently. Like he had like we have known Ultimate Endgame was coming since what the summer of last year >> roughly. Yeah.
>> So that means he had to have known at least 6 months before that. If you want to be conservative, I don't think it was 6 months. So, you had a long time to decide on the trajectory of this stuff.
>> Fair. That's fair.
I I I do like the story that is here though. The idea of like Hulk is it this is a what I got out of this, right? I got to put my lefty lefty glasses on, which are just my normal glasses. um was a story of gentrification and the Hulk being that big kind of soulless kind of big corporate that comes into this area, takes over it, uh displaces the people who live there and her finally getting control back and stealing that back. It's the idea of Shani. He stole the idea of the Iron Fist. Like he he bought the whole Hulk, you know, uh um culturally appropriated the Iron Fist essentially and Shani takes it back. She takes the he takes the heart of uh the the dragon back. And it's that idea of kind of reclaiming things that have been taken over by the one like the the higher power, the powers that be. And I like that as a story and that's why I like this issue and it's a pull for me because I think that's a good story. I think this is a good issue and it's a good story. I don't know if it's a good actually no. It is not a good culmination of ultimates as a series.
>> And you know what's dumb is that it's not meant to be.
>> Yeah.
>> Because the the culmination is the ultimate finale issue. But why in the world would you end a comic book story in another comic book?
>> I've been reading Ultimates. The biggest selling point of this whole thing was that it's it's open and closed. 24 solid 2 years.
If I buy the omnibus of this, is it going to have to include that finale in order for it to feel right? I guess so.
What if I choose not to buy that? Then I'm left with this as what ends this 24 issue run. And that feels crazy wrong.
>> Also, like I know I'm anti-editors note or like the the wrong editors note.
There's nothing that tells me to go to that when it's coming out in this, right? It just says to be continued in Ultimate Endgame, right? I guess that ultimate endgame will then point you to Fallout, I guess. Okay, that's fine.
>> It's just crazy how many characters fates are not even remotely thought of in this.
>> Yeah.
>> Like Entertain Me with the Five Spot says, I think they believed that since the Ultimate Line was doing so great that they would get an extension since they were truly the rival for Absolute.
>> I guess in reference to Dennis Camp.
>> Yeah, the team was I guess. Yeah.
I guarantee you that none of the other creative teams thought they were going on. You if you want to make that argument for camp, fine. But none of them none of the other ones thought they were going on. We already know cuz they've said it. They were two years and out. We already know it.
>> Although there was some confliction with Peach Mamoko's side of that.
Well, there was what seemed to be a cover up in retrospect because her translator came out and said that it was ending and then her husband said it wasn't.
>> Yeah. Or it was supposed to.
>> Yeah.
>> Um >> um >> I can tell you that the books themselves feel like they weren't supposed to end.
>> But again, it's because there's an ending coming that that that isn't in them. The ending is the ultimate finale book and ultimate endgame.
>> Yeah. It's just it's just a disaster from multiple perspectives. But I don't think there has to be any type of conspiracy for you to for for a person to see that this was just a [ __ ] mess.
Like it just didn't work.
>> But conspiracy is fun, Sean. I guess >> um it is kind of wild though because we have this ending ultimate endgame ending and absolute Martian Manhunter ending and a sort of crisis events kind of on a hiatus like so right now Dennis Camp went for having all these books to potentially just one with bleeding hearts.
Um I think Ace is coming back soon though. Uh >> it's coming. Yeah, it is.
>> And we know Dennis Camp will be part of a next level book. We don't know what.
Better be [ __ ] Doom Patrol. If it's Doom Patrol, I will do something. I almost said something really [ __ ] weird, but I stopped myself. Um, so yeah, I think it's we're in a weird spot for Dennis Camp, and I'm actually excited to see what what else he has.
Uh, I'm going to pass. It's not because I didn't enjoy aspects of this issue, but because I don't feel like what I purchased is what I is what I got, and I'm tired of that happening. Like that was so much of this Ultimate Spider-Man.
Ultimate Spider-Man. It was almost every issue with the covers a lie. You're not getting what you want and I'm I'm done.
I'm spending too much money on comics to feel like I'm not getting what I want.
>> Uh for me it's a pull. I liked it as a issue. So that's that's where I'll make that call.
>> That's fair.
Uh, you guys are on well didn't buy a read 39% pass 29% poll 27 and pick of the week five.
O Patrick Zay says, "Bro, if it's Doom Patrol, Tyler, you got to [ __ ] pay me the money cardiac owes me." How does Tyler get into your bet?
>> Wait, what the [ __ ] I What? How'd I get led into that? I didn't agree to [ __ ] I don't >> I don't bet. I don't make bets. I'm sorry. Too broke for that.
>> Lying covers are my breaking point, says Chillmonger. It's very frustrating, dude. Especially when you're talking about four to 5.99 per issue nowadays.
>> Yeah.
Covers better not [ __ ] lie. They better overpromise. They No, they better underpromise and they better overd deliver. I think Absolute Batman is like overpromising and like like it's like, "Oh, now you're getting spoiled on everything that's on the cover." They're very accurate.
Yeah.
Give me a pinup. Give me a Superman cover. That's all I need.
Do you need Spawn in your life? We'll find out, won't we?
Well, King Spawn number 55, which seems crazy to me.
Like, I remember when number one came out. It doesn't feel like that long ago, but okay. Uh, Kingspawn 55 writer Matthew Rosenberg, who we just had on the show a few weeks ago with art by Thomas Matchlick, colors by Ivan Nunees, and letters by Ann World Design. So, this picks up from a status quo that is very unique for Spawn. Now, the world at large knows for a fact that heaven and hell were real places. that actually exist, that God and the devil are real, and that they don't give a [ __ ] about humanity.
And so, obviously, people had a variety of um reactions to that, but mostly chaotic.
And worse, it appears that Spawn has decided that this is the the perfect time for him to cut and run.
And so our protagonist is this, you know, this young kid, uh, whose name I am not recalling.
>> And Nate, >> um, Nate, >> I'm going to call him Bobblehead Jones.
>> Um, >> his name is Hudson. Hudson.
>> Hudson. Okay. Yeah. Um, Hudson is searching for Spawn and he's getting himself in trouble with people. He's doing all kinds of shady [ __ ] getting involved with demons, all ultimately to locate spawn, which by the end of the issue, he does. Tyler, was this good enough to bring you back or to bring you into the spawn fold?
Nope.
Um, two two things kind of really stopped me from this. I actually think the script is is pretty pretty good for what it is.
Um, I thought the bits were like Hudson, you know, he's going against this question mark vampire question mark. Um, and he shoots him with holy water. Um, I thought there was some stuff there. Um, I just find the world of Spawn to be so dreary that I don't want to be involved.
Um, and this book, that is the MO of this book. It's the fact that everyone's [ __ ] given up. this world sucks and I rather read The Flash. You know what I mean? Like that's just my reading um preferences and this just isn't it.
Also, the art was just not really doing it for me. Everyone looked like they were on big head mode. Um I don't even know how to fully descri everyone had baby face.
Um, it it's like if somebody's that took anatomy class, but the anatomy class was watching Boss Baby. Um, I don't I don't know.
>> Yeah.
>> Exhibit A. Look at that arm, bro. What is up with my man Hudson, man?
>> Bro is built one like one of them skinny culturans, you know? Like it's just Hudson is looking a little rough.
Um, and it does that thing with coloring that I don't like where like it's it's the stuff that uh some people who color Greg Lant, people who color uh um who's the guy who did uh Darth Vader with Kieran Gill and Sean Loroka. Laroka.
>> Yeah, Loroka.
>> Where where it's adding this almost three-dimensional feel to two-dimensional art that just does not look good to me. It looks like uh uh it looks oily. It looks greasy. Which maybe is the point of this dreary dark world.
But you know what? I just don't want any part of it.
Um, I like this. I liked it. I didn't love it.
>> Sure.
>> But I did like it. I knew I saw there was some confusion on the part of some people about like where we were coming into this story. And I think that um, look, it is it it is a very crazy status quo. And, you know, if you didn't know, I could see it being jarring. Although I do think that Matt does a solid enough job of explaining what's happening. Um, I think the biggest problem I had was that it's called King Spawn, but Spawn's not in it. And I don't give a [ __ ] about Hudson. And the art was it was kind of brutality.
Kind of. Especially because the selling point of Spawn books for me at least traditionally has been how great the art always is. I mean, Mainline Spawn just had Brett Booth on it. Are you serious?
>> Brett Booth is one of the best.
>> It's true.
>> Um, and King Spawn actually had really good art, too, when it first launched.
So, I don't know why Rosenberg got saddled with a lesser artist. I feel like they could have afforded to bring somebody major on. Um, but I have high hopes for this. I think it's because like this is the secondary book because Spawn comes out next week, you know, and Steven Siggoia is on that who I I'm I'm more familiar with Siggoia.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's much more down my alley. And that's not to say like I might like the Spawn book next week. Who knows if we read it. I don't know.
>> Um but yeah, like this this one just wasn't really for me. Like if we're reading a Spawn book, I want to read about Spawn. I want to read about these characters that are awesome McFarland action figures that I liked. I don't care about the Joe Schmo of this world.
I don't want to be in this world. I don't want a POV character.
I I want the Spawn book. I want SP I want uh she spawn. Hello.
>> I could see you liking Sam and Twitch.
Maybe >> you ever try that?
>> No.
>> Bendis.
>> No. For the same reasons, though. It's like I don't care about the cops of Spawn World.
I want to see Violator because he scares the [ __ ] out of me. I want to see they show him one of the panels actually here that actually look good. The angel guy with the blue and gold.
>> Yes, >> he's rad. I think he's awesome.
>> He looks like that's like Diablo tear gear, you know? Um that's the stuff that interests me about Spawn. Spawn's a lot of like I don't want to think. Just show me cool [ __ ] Colch says that Rosenberg said this is the darker, more violent of the two if I remember correctly. And King Spawn was that like when they first when it first launched, if I recall, it was very like that.
>> Sure.
>> Um whereas mainline main spawn was just sort of a more regular toned down book.
Um I'm in I love dark [ __ ] I love [ __ ] up stuff. So, you know, as long as as long as I think the writing is good, I'll show up. I can even suffer through art that I think is subpar. I want to respawn very badly. So, I'm going to be back for the number two of this 1,00%. And I am all in on Spawn 376, I think. Um, but I don't know that this was the issue that I think is going to make like they definitely should have launched with regular spawn first.
>> I agree. I think that's confusing.
That's like like that's the one you're putting media out for, you know, like new person taking over Spawn proper. Uh this feels weird to come out beforehand.
>> Yeah, I don't really get the point of that. Marcus Longi is very confident though. He says it's going to come together in the best way possible.
Trust.
>> Okay. I I guess I'll trust you.
I mean, you don't know them. You certainly don't have to.
>> I don't. I don't. But, you know, you know, look for the best in people. See, that's why I don't like the spawn world.
Nobody does that in spawn.
>> Hell no.
Hell no. Because you're wrong to in this world. Everybody in spawn sucks except for um No, she sucked too. Yeah.
Everybody in spawn sucks.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
Um go ahead and get your votes in. I do want to see where you guys land on on King Spawn. And and is is there a reason for us to continue to review Spawn >> cuz I want to >> I definitely want to at least check out the number ones of it. I didn't get to check out She Spawn. Did you check out the first issue of She Spawn? That's Scale Simone, right?
>> I haven't gotten to it yet. I missed that week.
>> Yeah. Aaron says, "If that Spawn movie is still happening." Very good question.
Let me get Jimmy Fox online.
What's coming out first, Spawn or Blade?
Let's talk about it.
>> Or Hush Squared.
>> Uh, I'm going to go with Blade.
>> I'm going to go with Hush Squared out of all those to be honest.
>> You know what? Actually, genuinely no [ __ ] That is the correct answer.
>> Yeah, if you're saying Blade or Spawn, I'm going Blade. I don't think either's coming out. But I think there is a more percentage chance of Blade coming out.
>> I mean, Blade has a massive machine behind it. All it would take is for Kevin Feige to really want it and it'll happen. Whereas like Todd McFarland is not you don't have that kind of clout.
>> I'd also argue if Blade actually comes out that would be a that would that would kind of um seed the ground for a Spawn movie in a way if it does well.
>> That's true. That's true.
>> I think Spawn needs Blade to come out.
>> CW Gordon says, "Is this like a whole new era for Spawn?" Yes, indeed it is.
something very dramatic happened and now there's a new status quo where people know that God and the devil are real and don't give a [ __ ] about humanity.
So, we'll see. But if you guys want it, we'll talk spawn uh 357 or 367 or whatever it is.
>> 3 what you say?
>> 367 I think it is.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I know. excited.
>> Entertain Me says, "Keep reviewing Spawn." All right. Well, if you say so.
>> All right, that's all it takes.
>> Yep. All right, I'm going to go ahead and close this poll because you guys clearly don't give a [ __ ] Didn't buy her read is 74%.
10% is poll, 10% pick of the week, and 6% pass. Okay.
All right. Well, not a ringing endorsement, but figure drawing says screw spawn should have ended 73 years ago. Well, that would be tough cuz it would have had to end before Todd was born.
>> Yeah, for real, man. You want that?
That's some like real hater [ __ ] right there.
>> Yeah. Damn. Um, you know what a hater wouldn't do? A hater would not like this video, which is what I think everybody listening should do right now. How about that?
>> Because they're not haters. opposite day.
>> Exactly.
>> Exactly.
Uh Steve says, "Does that mean Chick-fil-A can open on Sunday in the Spawn universe?"
>> It's a good question.
>> I don't I think the CEO of Chick-fil-A actually becomes a butcher. Not a butcher of chicken, a butcher of people.
>> I think it just goes crazy.
>> Yeah. I do like how like they in the issue they mention how like everyone just left their jobs. It it is catastrophe. But at one point he also says, "Yeah, I just ordered some food from where?"
Look, bro, first of all, the Chinese restaurant open, rain, shine, your mom.
>> Those kids still doing homework in front of the cash register.
>> Yeah, absolutely. I have Chinese food on Christmas at least once for lunch.
>> Like, they're working. There's a Chinese uh uh spot like around the block from me and like homeboy that that runs it. He's always uh taking his lunch breaks and he's doing like you know you know is it like the Asian uh squat that that is like known and he's playing like mobile games on his phone. That dude be on his phone chain smoking cigarettes all the time and I'm like that's that's my [ __ ] dude right there.
>> Beast mode.
Uh >> so I pass I pulled you passed.
>> Yeah, it's passed for me. All right.
Yeah, let's get those numbers in the chat for the stack. You guys know the routine by now. Um, my trip to the LCS this week was pretty pedestrian, thankfully. But I do have to say something.
>> It is getting warmer out.
>> Oh, no. I was going to ask.
>> It's getting warmer out and I have been masked off for some time now.
And you people Oh, the [ __ ] You people are making me want to go mask back on.
You're making me want to go mask on because the smells are so [ __ ] bad.
Help me, please. Everybody, help me out.
>> They got gamer pits.
>> Yes.
Jesus Christ.
I was on the train and I don't know who it was but but brother just reaped and I don't know that he read comics. I didn't see a comic but he might have had a Marvel shirt on.
Who knows?
>> You smell an Iron Man fan here.
>> Yep.
>> You smell like Spider a Spider-Man fan.
>> Yeah, you you smell like a one more One More Day hater. Yeah, you smell like a You smell like you have a Mary Jane poster in your [ __ ] room. How you got a poster not of Kirsten Dun, not of uh Zenaia, okay? You have a poster of Mary Jane, a nonreal person. I need a mask to walk into your [ __ ] house. I know it.
>> And you know that poster is Jay Scott Campbell.
>> Yes. And hey, look, I'm not saying that I could have never had one. You don't know what's behind this green screen.
But I will tell you this.
>> Yeah, I thought it was a piano.
>> Uh, it could. Yeah, look. But what else is behind there? You don't know. Um, Ivy Moon, you smell like you're excited for us, too. There's no one.
>> That's a That's a slur.
>> Hey, that's really nice of you, Mono.
Thank you for your videos. You're very welcome. You came in at a time where I was uh >> great timing. Comedy is all about timing.
>> Oh man. Oh, thank you. Steve Grez says, "The Rocketeer book this week was pretty good. You get Rocketeer, Popeye, Tintin, and King Kong all in the same book."
Jesus Christ.
>> Wait, no [ __ ] way. What? I've been meaning to pick up the Rocketeer uh book, and I was waiting for like a trade or something. Which one is it?
D because that sounds like it's right down my alley honestly. Rocketeer >> the island number three. Holy [ __ ] Yeah, Betty Paige, the Rocketeer, King Kong, Tintin and Milo, and Pop Buyer in this issue. What the [ __ ] That's psycho.
Yo, I would love to be sponsored by Axe Body Spray. Absolutely. Or or how about Hotbot? Are they still around? for me. I >> was just about to mention it.
>> The It's on like the cleaning spray bottle, too.
You know, it's got like the whole nozzle.
>> Yeah, man.
>> I love your bod. Remember that?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I used to get those ads during Spike TV after in between episodes of a Most Extreme Elimination Challenge and The Man Show.
>> I used to get them on [ __ ] for Smackdown on UPN. Between that and those commercials for diesel sneak diesel shoes, those boots everybody must you just couldn't afford the Tims.
You had those diesels? That was like the the uh what were they? The Mcnights.
>> The Mc Knights. I've never heard of the Mcnite.
>> No. Oh, that they had the uh the Swedish What was it? Swedish kicks.
>> What?
>> You know about Swedish kicks? Am I?
>> No.
>> Hold on. Swedish sneaker. What is it called?
>> Entertrain says, "Sean, could you do the axe whistle?" What's an axe whistle?
>> Swiss.
Is it Swiss sneakers and KSwiss? That's what I was thinking of. The Kiss >> K Swiss sneakers.
>> There we go.
>> KSwiss. I never had a pair of KSwiss on my feet and I don't even really care about sneakers like that.
>> You know what they should do? They should bring back lightup sneakers for adults.
Mm- No, we we we were we were vibing for a moment, but then you Nah, bro. I'm not wearing no light up sneakers.
>> I think be neat.
>> All right. To each their own.
>> All right.
>> Someone's going to win a Marvel code for one of the Marvel books that I allegedly bought this week. Who knows what I did?
Let's uh let's run those numbers and see where we land.
>> All right. CW Gordon 21, Patrick Zayn 19, Hayden 22, The Game Masters 16, Tambora 15, Akmad Russell, uh, Ahmad Russell 21, funny man. James Jones 23, MDY 20. Oh no, I lost it. Where is it?
Where is it? Where is Okay. Neon Knight 22. Ted H 32. Ivy Moon 26. Steve 22.
Near 24. Bashan War Morberg 21.
Uh, Rey T 16. Marco with N. Marco. What the [ __ ] You know what? I'll allow it.
19. Go to work.
>> Uh, Entertain Me with 18. Great Delin with 13. Robbie Darwish with 18.
Uh, Garrick the Taylor 20.
I think that is it. Go. Zazo Mono 95.
All right. All right. Well, I don't know if we're going to reach the 95 today, but we've got the seven we talked about on the show. Plus, no, Marco's not winning anything. There's I We've reviewed seven.
>> He gets He gets uh he gets codes for image books.
>> Yeah. The HAB number two.
>> Who? Yeah. What's the cover? What's the cover?
>> Oh, sure.
That dude got his [ __ ] period.
Goddamn. Wow. Wow.
Uh, In Your Skin number two, Escape number seven. Can't wait to get into that. This in that book. Corpse Knight number two.
Detective Comics 1109. Wow. Amazing.
Uh, Exquisite Corpses 13.
Green Lantern 35.
Justice League Unlimited 19. I am not happy about this cover. I literally could not find a cover. A >> that's Captain Marvel on the cover.
>> Yeah.
>> You know they're calling it Captain Marvel again, right?
>> Yes.
>> And it's Dr. Oult, Sean. That's the good cover. It's got Dr. Oult on it.
>> I want cover A, man.
>> I know. You want the sexy brainiac queen?
>> Uh, I don't even I don't even care about it. I just don't want this because this isn't cover A. I'm a cover A guy. If Unless Unless it's crazy, which this more, right?
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn.
>> Hide Street 12. I've heard great things on the Discord about that one. Monstrous 62, Phantom of the Opera 4, Void Rivals 30, Doom Quest number one, Infernal Hulk.
>> Go back. Go back. What was that?
>> Doom Quest.
>> I thought you were doomed out.
>> I am. It's Ryan North. I'mma check it.
>> I got to check it.
>> Fair. Fair.
>> Infernal Hulk number seven.
>> Uh, the Century number three.
>> That looks like Void on the cover.
>> Yeah. And JLA Avengers number one.
>> You did get it. Okay.
>> I did. I have.
>> Is it a wraparound?
Yep.
>> Sick.
>> So, this is the front for everybody. And this is the back.
>> Oh, it's got [ __ ] Warbird on it, too.
>> It's got Warbird on it. It's got uh Quicksilver and Flash together.
>> Can we bring Warird back? Can we bring Captain Marvel back to Warbird colors at least?
>> I wish.
Um, so that's 22.
>> 22. Did someone I think there was a 22.
Let's see.
Nothing there. 21 Steve. Oh, all on Neon Knight with a 22. No, A Hayden with a 22.
>> Yeah, >> Hayden. Hayden. Hayden. Hayden. Uh, yeah. If there are any codes that you happen to want or any of the Marvel books that I got, feel free to reach out. Just so you know, JLA Avengers does not have a code, which shouldn't surprise anybody, but it doesn't. So, don't ask me for that. Um, this Saturday we're going to talk about the DC blackout and we're going to talk about this new movement that's happening, this boycott and whether or not it matters and what it means to have that conversation. We'll have Chris uh What a Boy Wonders. That's how you guys will know him. Um, that should be fun. Can't wait to talk about that. Thank you guys for hanging out with us. Hit the like button on your way out. Appreciate you.
Love every last one of you. Yes, entertain me. Even you. We will see you Saturday.
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