In domestic violence cases where both parties accuse each other and present conflicting stories, police officers must determine the primary aggressor based on physical evidence, witness statements, and legal criteria rather than simply deciding who is telling the truth; this determination affects whether an arrest is made, as an arrest is not a declaration of guilt but a procedural decision based on available evidence at the time.
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Added:This where my hand got cut at.
>> That's where your hand got cut at.
>> This the window she woring is getting the out of me. Harassing you.
>> An arrest in a domestic isn't a ruling on who's telling the truth. It's usually just a decision [music] about who the primary aggressor was where two people gave completely opposite accounts of the same fight.
>> You weren't at the scene. Why are you taking me?
>> The officers bull bull [ __ ] Somebody was getting arrested that day and the officers had to decide who with only the two people accusing each other to go off of. So the question isn't who the villain is, it's how you make that call when both witnesses are also the suspects. Let's get back to the video from Florida State Body Cam.
>> That was the swarm statement.
>> The swarm statement from him.
>> Do you mind just female?
>> Do you mind just driving her to H2, please? So we can just don't have to have >> So well I mean you can observe you can observe with them too.
>> You can look at the guy look at his injuries and [ __ ] and you'll say you're Oh, >> but yeah.
>> Yeah. No, I'll do that.
>> These distinctions they're trying to straighten out are important because Florida uh battery is one thing. Battery with the caveat of domestic violence means any relation by blood or marriage.
So, they're trying to determine if it's a a domestic situation because that affects the bond and it affects how long likely, you know, the person's going to have to sit in jail and some other things.
>> Yeah, right here.
>> Uh where's the window? Okay.
>> Right here.
>> And uh >> this where my hand got cut at. That's where your hand got cut at.
>> And this the window she punched out.
>> Did she break this, too?
>> No, it was already broke.
>> Okay.
>> But that's the window.
>> So, there's a broken window involved here.
>> Did the other officer [snorts] you spoke to get a uh give you a packet?
>> Uh, no. No, he didn't give me a packet.
>> He didn't give you a packet. Okay. I'll get you a packet.
>> All right.
>> And then he took pictures of you.
>> Yeah, he took pictures.
>> Put your hand and everything.
>> All right. Put my hand.
>> Okay. All right. Cool. I'll be right back with that.
>> All right. I'm I'm going to go downstairs.
>> Okay. Sounds good.
>> I hate walking over here. No, I hear you. I hear you. I hear you.
>> It would be a pain to climb up and down those stairs every time you wanted to go inside or or leave.
>> I'm going to get him back.
>> I forgot. I was on I was I was working night.
>> Yeah. I'm just going to explain this to you real quick.
>> Call you right back.
>> All right. Okay. All right.
>> All right. So, this is victim's rights brochure. All right. This is going to be your case number. If you want to reach out to the department, you give them this number and you'll be able to get the report.
>> This here is for what Marcy's Law is.
So, all of our reports are made public.
>> Mhm. If you want your name, date of birth, all that stuff removed from that.
If somebody wants to access the report, you circle invoke. If you don't mind if it's open to the public, just circle do not invoke. Most people invoke their right. And then I'm going to need you to print here, here, and then sign right there.
>> So, I shouldn't make it to the public, right?
>> It's up to you. I mean, if you want to keep your name in redacted, everything's made public no matter what. If you want to just redact your name, you circle invoke >> and then here.
>> Yep. And then right there. I just wanted to confirm with you. They said this is your your father's friend, girlfriend.
>> I don't know what they are. Girlfriend's friends company.
>> There's her drug pipe, too.
>> H >> her drug pipe.
Hers in his.
>> So, they had a little stash for their drug pipes right on top of the mailbox there, which is convenient place. A little quick word on Marcy's law. What he's talking about is uh the law that protects victims. So, uh, Marcy's law was enacted, I don't know, 20 here in Florida, and it protects the identity of or or any way to identify a victim of a crime, especially a violent crime.
>> She was trying to stomp on all of it.
>> I think that's why she was trying to go back in the house.
>> I'm going to take a picture of that real quick.
>> Yeah, go ahead. You good?
>> I'm doing those bleachers you were talking about. Now, [laughter] Bro, the glass almost hit the dog.
>> All right, sir. You have any questions for us?
>> No, that's she just needs hope.
Hopefully >> she was somebody before and she had a drug problem and I just wanted to get the right help and by acting out the way she did that is, you know, that's not >> Mhm.
>> that's not, you know, >> understood.
>> If I would have did that, it would have been a whole different story. And I'm not that type of person. And I've been trying to tell her her and my dad, they both need to get help.
>> I hear you.
>> Just ignore her. Just ignore her.
>> All right, sir. Well, you have a better day, right?
Y'all hear that [ __ ] >> Just sir, just don't entertain her.
Don't entertain her. She's We're taking her. Don't entertain her.
>> I'm good. I mean, I spoke to him just to confirm. He said he doesn't know who she is to her his father. Um, >> and you understand how like they're both in the wrong, but you also can't just attack someone like >> Exactly. So, I mean, >> there's other options.
>> She battered him. So, >> I also told him the physical violence of him.
>> I told him he has to go through the proper >> Do you want to take her to booking or you you want me to take her right now?
Like, are you still doing more stuff yet?
>> I'm done. I mean, it's >> okay. Yeah, you can. You can put her in >> swap cuffs as well.
>> Do you hear?
>> Unless you want to give them to me tomorrow.
>> Do you hear what the [ __ ] >> I'll just give you mine.
>> I'll give you yours.
>> Don't forget.
>> I know you love yours.
>> Yes.
>> Handcuffs can be a very hot commodity at times. like you try to make sure that you maintain the same set of handcuffs, but inevitably in a in a massive scene where there's like three or four cops and two or three different people being arrested, sometimes those handcuffs get swapped around and you know, guys are possessive. They have their lucky handcuffs. Sometimes they have engraved things on there or something and they just want to keep their handcuffs cuz they know they're in working order.
All right, Amy.
So, I have to read you something. All right. And then you're just going to need you to acknowledge if you understand after every line. Okay.
>> All right. I'm required to warn you before you make any statement that you have the following constitutional rights. Do you understand?
>> Yes.
>> You have the right to remain silent and not answer any questions. Do you understand?
>> Yes.
>> All right. Would you like to speak to me today? Who are your name?
>> I'm officer Ronila.
>> Okay. Do you mind telling me what happened?
>> I already told the officers what happened and I'm still here. So >> Okay, understood.
>> I mean, is there an option to make it out of this? Maybe I talk.
>> Okay. So, you don't want to answer any questions?
>> I mean, what kind of questions do you have?
>> Like, what happened today? What happened today is I was in my room and my crazy psychotic roommate started screaming at me about how I called the police last night and that he was going to take my child from me because I caught my own for my custody and he was going to ruin my life because I called the police on him in his own home.
>> And who is this for me? um spend with the Wilson who's related to his father Alonso Wilson which his wife had the home.
>> Okay. And what is your relationship with Alfonso?
>> Alonso left to go to the doctor's appointment today and the moment he left his psychotic son came in the room and ripped me out of my [ __ ] bed and locked me out of the house. in which time he and another very large drug dealing man stood in front of the door and physically assaulted me in front of the neighborhood people. And then when the police came and told them whatever they wanted and I'll believe them and I'm getting charged with battery.
>> What did they specifically assault you?
Like how?
>> Ripping me out of my bed and physically dragging me to leave the home.
standing in front of the door being much larger and much bigger than me as I try to go in the house because there's seven to 10 people downstairs screaming at me telling me what a [ __ ] poor and crackhead I am which is ridiculous.
>> I don't know if 10 people are yelling what a [ __ ] crackhead you are. Maybe there's just a moment of inner reflection. Maybe you just want to take a look at why 10 people are saying that.
I'm not saying she is. I'm not saying she isn't. So, and this is what's called a secure interview room that she's in right now. It looks like a holding cell of some sort, but the purpose of it is like transitory. It's so they have a place to sit that's safe, you know, they can't get access to any anything that can harm anybody while the officers either prepare their paperwork or uh wait for some kind of transport to a permanent, you know, a jail, a booking, something like that.
>> Okay. Aside from ripping you out of the bed and dragging you outside, did he >> frequently assaulted me before? Yeah, previously. He's also been discussing with my family. He's also stolen money from me. He's also lied and manipulated.
He also doesn't do anything and is never home. But you could call the other tenants, which I asked your police officers to do and that wasn't done. So, have anybody spoken to Alonsor or attempted to make contact with the actual person whose police the police is under?
>> I'm I'm just getting here now. So, I'm trying to find out what's going on with you. And then what is how do you know Alfonso? How are you two related?
>> Doesn't see how that pertains to the situation. He's a friend.
>> Okay. So, Alfonso is a friend and you live with with him.
>> Yeah. And he used to be a friend. Matter of fact, he we he used to date and when I broke up with him, this is when all the problems started.
>> Okay. So, you used to date Tim.
>> Yeah.
>> The son that >> I dated him for like 3 days because he's a psychopath. Started ripping me off and lying and manipulating. I wanted nothing to do with him. Why don't you ask his father about Tim's behavior?
>> Okay.
>> But again, I called the police last night for Tim's behavior and somehow >> So, I just want to recap because I want to make sure I understand this. She was in Tim's father's bed this morning and ripped out of there to be kicked out of that residence without Tim's father being there. And she used to date Tim.
So, um, it's like a father son situation.
>> This was like the justice system is really great. And guess what? If I tomorrow from my daughter's custody because of this, >> no. Okay. I don't think you do.
>> Don't think you do. All right, ma'am.
I'll be back. Okay.
>> To continue threats of physical violence every day, screaming and yelling and mean he's going to get rid of us. He's going to kick us out of the house because he really has to do just like he was screaming at me, you know, across the way telling me that he's [snorts] he's getting everything he wants by me going to jail. And his dad, he's going to have him thinking because he's crazy, which is not the case by any means. Tim is the issue which is why we need to speak to the two there's three of us right that were there two of us have one story and one person has another >> okay >> I also have video evidence of this him being physically abusive and verbally aggressive and [ __ ] breaking [ __ ] in our house so I will also be reporting that to the justice system >> okay THANK YOU WANTED to add that um Tim was strangling me on the steps outside to prevent me from returning to the home.
>> Um and in doing so that's when the Mari character the other large 64 physically much dominant.
>> She's relying on the size. She keeps saying that, you know, she keeps saying the height and weight of whomever she had this altercation with and she's, you know, keeps saying that's the reason why this is some kind of assault and she's being mistreated. Uh, she's laying perfectly horizontal though. I mean, she could be a level if she wanted to get a job on a construction site.
>> So, did anybody report this? I forgot.
He just hurts me and abuses me all the time. Um, but I'm in here.
>> Okay.
>> And the scratches aren't evidence, but that's why I'm here.
>> They were trying to push her towards some kind of help. Even the son was saying that they're uh both addicted to drugs and he's trying to push them on the path towards some kind of rehabilitation and that may fix some of her problems.
>> On my wrist and his [ __ ] hands.
You see it?
I think that add up too.
>> Okay. Is >> there speculation marks or scratches around my neck?
>> When something goes like this, they usually had a lot of marks until later.
>> Understood. Okay. I'll I'll note that >> my scratches were so batteryy that I'm behind bars.
>> I'll note that. Thank you, ma'am.
Okay, then you going to take I have to go out there and grab take pictures of your injuries.
>> You just lay there. I'll take the pictures.
>> I need to get start.
>> Is there anything there? I mean, there's appointments.
>> If you can look straight up so I can get that.
All right. Anything else? Was there actually anything on my neck or was that >> I'm I'm not a perfect expert in that.
Other investigators might be able to identify something, but I just want to make sure that's documented for you.
>> Okay.
>> It's the right thing to do.
>> All right. Can you [snorts] stand up for me and face the wall?
>> Can I spot you? They can get you one uh when we get to county.
>> They'll get you one in for county. All right.
>> Last time I went 22 hours without the last time I seen it.
22 hours. Sir, can I just have a little water, please? It's not going to be that far. I'm going to wait. Please.
>> They're going to get you some kind.
Don't worry. Do it quick.
>> How come every other time I've gone to jail, this hasn't happened?
>> Huh?
>> What was that?
>> How come every other time I've gone to jail, it hasn't happened?
>> Just tell me paperwork.
>> I don't know what they did, but we have to do paperwork.
This is a form of inmate math. So, she's under arrest. They're taking her to jail at 5:25, as you can see on the camera here, and she's starting to think, well, that means the first arignment judge is probably going home, so I'm probably going to have to stay overnight now. Uh, I'm going to have to see a judge in the morning. She's probably doing that kind of math.
>> I'm on Vanyion.
>> Van.
>> Yeah. Van Boulevard.
>> Okay, let's run the checklist real quick. We have a Florida case. We have a woman in the back seat who is crying.
Uh, she didn't ask to speak to her dad.
However, she's in a relationship with the suspect's dad. Does that count? And I think that's it.
What is she doing?
It's disgusting.
back in.
>> It's very uncomfortable back there. I'll give her that.
>> You actually don't have to feel bad for any of your flection that you do.
There's no accountability as a police officer. It's disgusting.
You weren't even at the scene. Why are you hooking me into >> What's that, Amy?
>> I said you weren't at the scene. Why are you taking me? It makes no sense.
There's no accountability.
>> The officers I'M >> THE OFFICER bullit bull bullit.
>> No accountability. And you do whatever the you want. It's disgusting.
No water for hours. I'm not going to eat tonight. It's 5:30. Like, you have no idea what goes on there.
>> That that the inmate math is more than just her getting released on a recgnissance by seeing a judge. She's saying, "I'm going to get there after dinner." It's not that she was really worried about getting out. It was that she was worried about getting there in time to get dinner. That's a wrinkle I hadn't thought of.
>> The worst thing is beating the measure.
I'm going to do the because I'm not not have the foresight to be soing god.
You're not even going the way you're supposed to lock me.
I'm going to take the longest thing possible for my time so that I absolutely am back to make my daughter's quarantine tomorrow.
And that way I can really experience consequences, right?
>> She talks like, you know, the volume on your TV is at 7 when the comfortable level is 10. and she's uh you can't really hear her, but what she's saying is this is going to delay her to get to her hearing in the morning for her daughter and it's going to have significant consequences because there's some kind of like custody hearing or something to that effect. And this is kind of this is the consequences of being an adult. This is what happens when you make bad decisions. Bad things happen.
>> Baby, I got to be there for you. But I don't know if you babyed volume.
Let me guess. No one ever called my roommate, right?
Let me guess. Did you call the roommate that I live with?
No. Did you? You didn't call investigator detective group by addressing another 17.
Why don't I be the victim and you take me to jail some more?
Like what is wrong with you?
Like do you really like your job?
Do you feel like you actually accomplish anything good? Sir, as a police officer, do you like your job?
>> Let me know in the comments if we need to add nose ring as its own category in these videos.
Oh [ __ ] >> Basic human rights.
>> Nonexistent. You don't even care about being a human mother being >> 86207.
>> 8627.
862.
>> She's going to be hearing that in her dreams tonight.
>> 86207.
You know, I'd appreciate it if you subscribed here. But if you want the deeper true crime dive from the first call to the final verdict, you'll find that on my other channel. It's called the Comm Center. The details are in the description below.
>> I've gotten brown close spider bites here.
One female westbomb.
>> One female chick sucker. [ __ ] This is why it's important to heed the warning of your dare officer uh when you were a kid. If not, you're going to be laying in your cell at night hearing 86207.
What makes this one hard to close is that there's no clean tell. Like in most cases, something gives one side away, like a camera, a video, or or somebody trips up on a changed story or something just a detail that doesn't fit. But here, both people had injuries, both had a version, and the officers had to weigh which account the physical evidence supported before anybody's story could be fully checked out. Some cases end with an answer. This one ended with a decision.
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