This video presents a live panel discussion exploring the complex historical and contemporary relationships between Black Americans and Puerto Ricans, revealing that despite shared experiences of marginalization, significant cultural misunderstandings, historical segregation, and differing perspectives on identity and community have created tensions. Participants share personal experiences from New York City neighborhoods, discussing how historical neighborhood segregation, different cultural mindsets, and varying approaches to American identity have shaped community dynamics. The discussion highlights that while both communities have faced discrimination, their different historical experiences and cultural backgrounds have led to misunderstandings and conflicts, particularly regarding issues of immigration, community acceptance, and racial identity.
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A Puerto Rican Said THIS About Black Americans… The Room Went SILENT!
Added:So, as a Puerto Rican, you never separated yourself from immigrants?
>> Not really. No, >> man. If you don't get What state you grew up in?
>> I'm from New York. Brooklyn.
>> Man, y'all the most segregated city in all of the United States. Sir, there's probably more segregated cities, but New York is extremely segregated.
>> But what are you talking about? You asking me, you asking me a question?
>> Hold on, Pablo. So this is the question is do you um can what what's something you you wish the black um imu I mean what's something Pablo you wish the black American community understood about the Puerto Rican community.
>> I don't wish that they understood anything.
>> Okay.
>> Is there a conflict? Is there a conflict?
>> No. Just go go ahead. You said you don't wish they understood anything. Now go ahead and say what you wanted to say. Go ahead. Oh, I'm just saying that um I never thought of it that way, you know, of of separation.
That's why I don't have anything to say about immigrants.
I think in the 30s.
>> That's right.
>> Okay. So, what's one reason why you Puerto Ricans never let black Americans inside your house in the 70s and 80s and 90s? You can maybe go from there. Maybe there's something we don't understand why you didn't let us in your house.
>> You talking You talking about You're talking to the wrong person about that.
>> I think I'm talking to the right person.
>> Red Hook.
>> I grew up in Red Hook and we ate in everybody's house.
Okay. In ganas, in Red Hook.
My My family was in um where is it? that spikely come from that uh park out there on Green Greenpoint, East New York.
>> So, you're saying we we misunderstood that y'all don't that y'all did not let people in y'all houses in the 70s, ' 80s, and 90s. And really to this day, y'all still kind of practice that segregation stuff?
>> Well, I I never experienced that, man. I always had black people in my house.
>> So So that's something I'm misunderstanding in.
>> Yes, it is.
>> Oh, okay. Okay. Anybody from New York?
Anyway, there might be some other people that don't have the same experience as me.
>> I'm from the city.
Hold on real quick.
>> From the 1960 cities.
>> Hold on. Hold on. Eli, if I'm projecting, come your Panaffrican self up here cuz you always in the comments.
Anyways, go ahead straight. No, Chaser, cuz I think he already landed his plane.
>> Yes, sir. Um, yeah. I was I was born in the late 50s. Uh, born in Manhattan, stayed in the city until 1969.
left at 9 10 years old. My building was uh my block 168th Street was all black.
Now, as a kid, I thought it was just, you know, black America. We didn't know too much about Caribbeans and Africa.
There wasn't that many Africans back in the 60s. It was mostly Caribbeans, which held their accent. They would cosplay and speak like we did. The only time I heard the accent is when I went inside the house and met the parents and my little dumb butt thought they from from deep down south. So, you know, that's funny. Now, we called the the Spanish guys like eight or nine 10 blocks away.
We called them Spanish. We didn't call them Latino, Puerto Rican. They were known as >> And we did not mess around. I'm telling you. Uh >> yo, we had many many conflicts with the Spanish guys.
>> Yo, we throw hands with them, bro. man with in in a heartbeat.
It had a lot of Dominicans in where I lived, okay? And we didn't mess with each other. They always had this little attitude about them. I don't, you know, I didn't know about them thinking they were uh European, but they they were just as bad as the Europeans.
So nah no all this and see the only thing I wish the immigrants would understand when they leave their wonderful countries their beautiful islands uh the great continent of Africa they don't they move into FBA neighborhoods they don't go with the with the Europeans or the Asian they come and our stuff now that's that's our fault we're too nice okay we thought >> Hold on straight we got to land your plane real Um, >> Pablo, >> I like to respond if >> I know. I'm I'mma let Pablo respond and then you go right after Pablo. Pablo, let me send his invite cuz Yeah.
>> Pablo, >> can you hear me?
>> Yeah, I can hear you now. Now, do you did you have a rebuttal for that? Is that >> Yeah, I was saying, well, but I don't understand what the deal is, man. I really don't. I mean, I understand that there was separation.
I remember in New York, you had the black gangs, you had the Puerto Rican gangs, you had the Italian gangs.
>> Yeah. Yeah. GS. I love >> it. It was serious conflict. All right.
But that was kid [ __ ] >> So, you're saying there's no which to translate, you're saying there was no real division amongst >> Spanish.
>> There was serious division. There was serious division.
>> But you just sat up here and told me that there was no division, sir.
>> No, what I was saying was I'm talking about in in the past when we were growing up that it was, >> you know, it was like that. It was neighborhoods and [ __ ] like that.
>> But that >> black neighborhood, Puerto Rican neighborhood.
>> Oh.
>> You know, everybody infected everybody else. So, but you you sat up here to call me a liar though when I said the exact same thing.
>> I didn't call you a liar.
>> Okay. Go ahead, D1.
>> Why you say I call you a liar? I was down to it. You You made it seem like everybody was okay.
>> Yeah, everybody is okay >> in my neighborhood.
>> We were talking about neighborhoods, right? Where we grow up.
>> Bro, I'm from New York, bro. I'm 30 30 years old, feel me? I I was raised in the Bronx. Literally more Hispanics than anything in the Bronx. It might as well be Puerto Rico 2.0. You feel me? So, let's let's get down to business. All right. I got two questions for you.
First of all, why do you not get along with the Dominicans? Second of all, uh what is the racial breakdown of Puerto Ricans in Puerto Rico and the ones who immigrate to the US mainland? And also, uh if the US collapsed, what would your people do? Like, how would you sustain yourself? because you you complain about the fact that you don't get any representation in Congress. You're always so prideful of the fact that you're Puerto Rican. You're not American, but your entire economy is subsistent upon American dollars. So, what would your people do without America?
Black Americans would be fine because we're ethnically American, but you might be in a weird situation because you're a territory. You're not really American.
So, if you can answer these questions for me, sir.
And I land my plane papo.
>> Hello. Yep. Okay.
>> You got a rebuttal for that?
>> Yeah. I mean, all I called was really the last part, but what is >> I'll repeat it if you like. I can repeat it.
>> Yeah. Repeat the the first part that you said cuz I don't.
>> Okay. So, I had three questions total.
It's really all one question, but it's compounded. So, the first question was one. Why don't you get along with the Dominicans? The second question was what's the racial >> The second question and the first question tie together. The second question is what is the racial classification like the racial breakdown of Puerto Ricans in Puerto Rico and the Puerto Ricans who immigrate here to the United States of America?
>> Okay. What is the makeup of them? Well, it's black, Spanish, and Indian.
That's the race.
>> Cap. You just lied. He capping. He capping hard. Bro, most of y'all consider yourselves white or Spanish.
Stop playing, bro. Stop playing.
>> Y call black Americans out of names. Y morenos.
>> Look, you got you got people in every race that don't want to claim what they are, >> but that's not my that's not my backyard.
>> So, you just told another lie on top of a lie. So you just So you admit you have people in your >> first of all Puerto Rico is not a race.
>> I didn't know about my people.
>> You're racially classified as white.
>> I know how they are. I know the racism.
I know the racism. I'm aware of all that.
>> So why'd you call me a liar?
>> I never called anybody a liar.
>> All right. Yep. We're going to move on.
Yep. Shout out to that.
>> Yeah. Move on because nobody called you a liar. No.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to that. Uh, Puerto Ricans, everybody. Uno to anyways. Um, let's see here. Michelle.
Oh, no. Straight. Straight. You want to address the prompt?
>> Yes, sir. Uh, let me There's never no black and brown coalition. Okay. They are some funny. They think they're European. I went to Puerto Rico. Yo, it it's horrible. Okay. They got a place called Dog Beach. I've never seen uh bars on the mailbox. It's horrible. They want to be European so bad. and they think they're better than the Afro uh Spanish and they for a black. I love my father. He's okay for a black. Yo, they got real mental problems. Okay, we got to just leave them alone, man. All these people from other countries just because you look like me. We have different mindsets, different cultures, different and that's what's messing black Americans. We let everybody into the uh cookout. No, we got to start checking IDs. Where you from, partner? And I'm getting to the habit now. My old ass age, the first thing I ask you is where your grandparents from? Why does it matter?
That's my answer right there. I got you.
Okay, got you. We all American. If someone tell you they're from America, yo, we got to leave those folks alone, man. They're not going to do anything but bring us down. Look at the their countries. Their countries are messed up. Haiti got a bunch of gangs, black gangs, Haitian gangs. Some guy named GS.
>> Yo, FPA's, please, man, get these folks out of our politics, out of our neighborhoods, out of our uh sororities, out of our colleges. They don't like us.
Matter of fact, no one likes America.
They want to see America fall. We got to stop being so soft and gentle and and kumbaya nonsense. Yo, we have no friends, no allies. Black men get over it. Cuz they don't play. They come from a hard place and we got to stop being so geek gee. All right, take off the flip-flops, put your pants up, cut off those goddamn excuse me, those braids and yo, we black American and that's it.
All right, my people. Peace and love, man.
I wasn't I wasn't raised around these [ __ ] I ain't going to lie. I'm I'm from the silk. I'm from Mississippi.
I wasn't I wasn't raised around these [ __ ] And then uh when I got married, I moved to the Midwest. that why I see that why I start seeing more and more uh people that really don't look like us. And and the only the only reason why uh I I think that that I have a uh I have a u you know what I'm saying a disdain for people that look like me that are foreign because uh what what happened to uh everybody black all this and this. No, everybody ain't black and it ain't all this and this. It ain't all this and this. And I done seen in my workplace where where foreign uh immigrants that look like us, they try to they trick us out our damn spot. You know what I'm saying? They try to trick us out our spot because they now they they close to the white people and then they think it's it's all butters and creams and all this and that, man. Hell no. It ain't all this and that. And I'm I'm I'm talking about reality. I'm talking about reality. Not on no Tik Tok, not on no online, none of that. I'm talking about reality. the people that I thought supposed to been on our side or whatever that look like us. That why we got more smoke for y'all because y'all y'all kind of y'all kind of got the same skin that we got. The same the same skin tone that we got. We already had to fight the damn white people all our damn life and then y'all come up in here.
Y'all come over here to to our country and then y'all align with them. That's why we got more smoke for y'all. We already know they disposition and we figuring out y'all and y'all some fake ass phonies that try to try to do this and that. Try to try to uh kind of upgrade on the backs of black people like everybody else did and we sick and tired of. You know what I'm saying? That and I I just I just learned that in real life. Like I thought I thought it was a uh I thought it was a brotherhood. Man, it ain't none of that [ __ ] I'm on the brothers with my people here in the United States that that got lineage stretched back to my great great grandma Gertrude.
And we know we know we know our I know my plantation. I I know I know that. I know that thing. I know what >> Shout out to Gertrude.
>> Yeah, for real. And my great great and my great great grandma name was Mary and my great great great grandma name was Gertru. Mary and my grandma, Eva May, was still alive. Evil May was a sharecropper. Sharecropping on her own damn land. That's why we going to court now. And we got all this documentation and everything. And we fighting the court now because they trying to say, "No, that land ain't hers. All that land call my my uh my granddaddy uh he in heaven right now talking to the Lord."
So, okay, hold on. Hold on. Miss Mississippi. Hey. Hey, Pablo.
Pablo, you want to unmute?
>> Yeah, babe.
>> Pablo.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Do Do y'all have family reunions? Puerto Rican?
>> No, cuz there's nobody left.
>> All I got is my twin sister.
I got my older sister.
We What? What?
>> That's not your culture to have family reunions, sir.
>> I didn't say we had I just said everybody's gone. I don't We don't have a family.
>> No, you're missing You're missing the point. She asked, "Do y'all have family reunions?"
>> Yeah, right. I don't like I don't have it because I don't have any more family.
>> But did y'all used to >> Yeah.
>> How How did y'all family reunions go?
What y'all used to do?
>> We used to have picnics. We used to go upstate to the uh those um cabins up there. We had all the kids, all the families together, >> you know, with a family reunion. How how deep it go y'all had.
>> Well, not not as deep as you reunion.
Not as deep as you. You think yours is deeper? That's fine. Y'all is more >> because I know Listen, I know >> y'all is more like a family gathering.
>> Of course.
>> Okay. So, that's different than the family reunion.
>> Well, I'm not comparing it. You are.
>> No, no, no. I was just trying to picture it and see if y'all did the whole like if it's if black Americans was the only ones.
>> No, >> man. They they ain't do [ __ ] love. They they ain't do they ain't have no damn family, >> man. Where you coming from, bro? You got a big mouth. You Yeah, you got a big mouth, too. And you told a lot of lies.
>> I ain't got a big No, I never lied to you. That's >> [ __ ] Hold on. Hold on. Little Goya crash out.
>> Y'all don't have family reunions. It's not your culture. Nobody else on the planet has family reunions except for black Americans. It was literally the name family reunion. It was something that was started after the abolishment of slavery, after emancip during emancipation. people would go to general stores and this and that and the third and try to figure out who their family members were because people got separated all over this plane. So yeah, and I got family my just speaking on my my greatgrandfather's side, they were over there in uh Orangeburg, South Carolina on on some of them plantations and whatnot and some of them are still sharecroppers. Some of those people uh they had family members who actually were able to escape the plantations and went down south into Florida and started fighting with the seminals and became a part of the seminals and went over cuz you know the seminals are just a bunch of tribes put together and they went on the trail of tears. Some got you know your your history.
>> Some got dropped off over in Alabama.
Some got dropped off in Mississippi.
Some got dropped off in Texas. Some got dropped off in Mexico from what I'm finding out. And actually the ones that were dropped off Mexico went back up into Texas uh during the 1800s.
Oh, my bad. Oklahoma then Texas actually. So what was what was your question? How do I know my family history?
Come on, Pablo Lo. Cuz you done sat up here called me a liar. I don't like getting called a liar.
>> I'm here. I'm here. I'm listening to you.
>> Yeah. So nobody up over here punk. Yeah.
You a punk.
>> You ain't Most of y'all are raised to be punk. You really want to take it there.
Most of y'all mas rait >> because you're talking some [ __ ] man.
>> Oh, my family history.
>> I ain't talking about your family. I'm talking about you. What did you >> do?
>> So, what I say is a lie.
>> Okay. So, what did you do? Did you go to the south in the summers or did you live in the south?
>> I grew up in the south.
>> Okay.
>> And we and most of y'all New Yorkers when y'all come down there, we got to put BTA to y'all cuz y'all a lot of y'all got that mouth on you and you don't know how to stop it.
>> Mouth.
>> Yeah.
>> The only reason Florida we have to stop down on y'all for real. Yeah. You ain't got no You ain't got nothing over here, bro.
>> Okay.
>> Not a damn thing.
>> Okay. What What don't I have?
>> You don't have Tell me what I don't have, sir.
>> To [ __ ] accept accept life the way it is. You want to exclude everybody and [ __ ] like you're all going to make it by yourself.
>> I I don't want liars a part of my lineage. I don't like that.
>> And I told you I never lied.
>> A lot of y'all lieos. Y'all are lieinos.
That's why I call y'all lieos. Y'all don't y'all don't never tell the truth.
Are >> you so stupid? You all >> That's it. That's all you got. I'm so stupid.
>> He's talking about Puerto Rico.
>> They just want to separate Puerto Ricans from black.
>> No, we we want to separate from all y'all. All y'all.
>> Well, go ahead and do it.
>> That's weird. He did. It's already done.
>> I get off.
>> Yeah. Come on. Hold on, Pablo. We got to move on.
>> Hold on, Pablo.
>> Hey, Wo.
>> How you doing?
>> I'm doing fine. What's your ethnicity?
>> I'm Asian.
>> Asian?
>> Mhm. All right. You want to address the prompt?
>> No, I was just listening to him when he said, you know, New Yorkers get stomped in Florida. That's true.
>> Hold on. So, I need you to address the prompt first.
>> Okay. My bad.
>> Again, you can say whatever. You can go into your submission. Black Americans and immigrants. What's one thing you wish the other community understood about yours?
>> Well, we all got to respect each other.
When people start disrespecting others knowing that this is not their land, you know, that's the only thing I can see.
You said you're Asian, weo.
>> No, I'm just [ __ ] around because everybody tries to divide it.
>> But I'm saying where your people from?
>> Cuban.
>> So then the room can understand where you coming from.
>> I'm Cuban.
>> Okay. And then what were we saying about Florida?
>> Oh, it's true. These [ __ ] come from New York and they get stumped on.
>> Hey dog, listen. Y'all heard it from a Cuban. And if anybody understands Cuban's role in Florida, man, listen.
The fact that he even had to tell the truth, Pablo, come on. Come off mute, Pablo. Come on, Pablo. Cuz he done called me a liar on on so many levels.
Come here. Come on, Pablo.
>> Yo, I didn't call you a liar.
>> Keep insisting that I call you a liar.
I'm trying to be passive aggressive, but hey, wait, you said you Cuban, right?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Yeah. Pablo here, he Puerto Rican.
What's the Puerto Ricans role when they get down to Florida? Especially the New York Ricans.
>> Oh, they got to get in place. They already know.
>> Hey, you so full of [ __ ] >> You [ __ ] over there are Trumpers, man. All you Cuban [ __ ] are >> I live in Hey, listen. I live I live in the city. Trumpers >> and >> that's where you are.
>> No, no. Say it in English.
>> If you learn the Spanish.
>> No, I know Spanish. You going to say it in English. We only speak English.
>> I'm talking to somebody that speak Spanish.
>> It don't matter. Both. He's speaking English.
>> Listen. Listen. I'm in American.
>> I'm not restricted. 10 minutes. Pablo.
>> I'm in I'm in a I'm in a black American panel. So, I got to show respect and speak the language that they speak. If they were in my planet, okay, different if it was my panel, but I got to respect the black American panel. So, if they're speaking English, guess what? I got to speak English.
I know exactly what you're saying, Pablo.
>> But you don't real deep inside your heart. If you come to Miami, Florida, you got to get online. It's not your way. This ain't Burger King. This is Florida.
>> Hey. Hey. Real quick, wait, before we get to the next person, hey, are the Puerto Ricans and Cubans aligned down there in Florida?
>> Well, because it's different. The Puerto Rican that are Florida, they're more island with that New York mentality. You see what I'm saying? So, they get real quick. They like, "Okay, this is Liberty.
This is Little H." People go and they know where their place is. What about the Haitians? What about the Haitians and Cubans?
>> Well, as long as they stay on their side, you know what I'm saying? With the dirty little >> Yeah, but they not all living in together and making babies together.
>> Oh, okay. Cuz we have a Haitian that keeps coming up here saying that. So, >> okay. Listen, this is what happened in Hait. This is what happened with Little Haiti. The black community, there was little hats living in northeast Miami date county.
Northwest is usually, you know, black Americans. They didn't want to be on that side of northeast next to the little hats. So they threw the Cubans over there. The Cubans like, "Man, who told these people we want to be next to these little hats?" So we thinking we gave a black to the black Americans. You see the cosplay? And they were Haitians.
And then since they spoke a different language, the black Americans thought that they were Cubans and that's how Little Haiti was built.
>> Yep.
>> But they'll sit here and lie.
>> Oh well, y'all heard it from somebody down there. Appreciate you, Wayo. We got to get on to Stewart. Hold on. Wayo.
Stewart.
>> Why can't y'all build a little Haiti in Haiti?
>> Because they don't build nothing.
>> Damn, that's so crazy.
>> It's It's trash all over the place in Haiti and all. They want to come here talking crazy to us. And we were the ones, you heard it from Wo, we the ones that accepted them and thought, you know, that they were going to be like us. And no, they they were not. They were not reinforcement. black man.
It wouldn't have had to come to this. It wouldn't even have to come to this. But y'all did it to yel. Y'all did it to yel >> black.
All y'all all y'all melanated immigrants. Y'all did it to yel instead of aligning with the with the superpower of of melanated people, which is us.
>> No, they y'all decide y'all decide to come over here real like, "Yeah, they [ __ ] They they the uh the YT people [ __ ] on us. So I'mma just join with them. That's the problem y'all got.
>> The problem was >> But now it's too late. Now it's too late. It ain't no moreries or none of that. We ain't It ain't none of that. It ain't none of that. Y'all go over there and do what y'all do. And we going to still We going to still strive and do what the hell we do.
>> Don't come over here and try and be like we brothers now. Now. Hell no. We want brothers back in the 60s.
>> Okay. All right.
>> The 80s.
>> Hold on. Mississippi. Go ahead. What part? Go ahead. My bad, love. My thing is that black Americans are super nice.
They gave Northeast. It was very beautiful and they destroyed it. Them Haitians destroyed it. They turned it into a [ __ ] hole. Anybody that goes down little hat, they're going to be like, "Bro, this is not part of Miami." Well, it was beautiful when the black Americans had it, but you know, they didn't want to be there. So, they gave it to the Cubans. The Cubans didn't want it. They thought they gave it back to the black Americans because one more time, like I say, when people commit crimes and they got locked up.
Guess who they blame?
>> Black folk. Black folk.
>> And that was And that wasn't him. That was a Haitian. That was Elamoli. You see what I'm saying? That was a Jamaican.
That was somebody else. You know what I'm saying? But they go ahead and mark it when you, you know, and then when they do the statistics, oh, black people are the ones that get arrested the most.
That wasn't black Americans. Stop.
>> You know what's crazy? Didn't they use those same statistics to justify the the crime bill in the '90s?
>> Yep. That's the cause. That's the cause of delineation right here. Right here.
What you just explained, sir, that's that's the cause of delineation. We ain't going we ain't trying to take on these foreign uh immigrants problems, but it's all it's all
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