Ever wondered how to take your career from "Hello World" to "Scaling Globally"?

Ajouté : 2026-04-29

[00:00:05]Welcome to WeCcast VIT University's podcast where we share the experience, the stories and the insights of VIT alumni community. I am your host Dr. Anu Basil and today we are going to dive deep into the engine room of the tech world. We often talk about innovation but we rarely talk about people who is actually behind the framework in converting the ideas into a billiondoll global reality. Our guest for today is an amazing personality who has made an impeccable record in the field of technology. A person who's mastered two languages perfectly. The language of algorithms and the language of excellence. He is none other than our alumni CSE computer science BTech 2015 batch Abuetati from the halls of Duke University to the excellence field.

[00:01:06]Abide's contribution has been the best that you can ever see. Abid welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for being with us today and sharing your insight with millions of the student community as well as the Alban community. Thank you Anu. Uh really appreciate your positive energy and your introduction.

[00:01:26]Dad would be proud and I'm really excited to be here and and yeah speak to you today.

[00:01:31]>> So Ab looking back at your journey you know from VIT to now. So what are some of the defining moments that shaped your direction?

[00:01:42]>> That's a tough question for us to start with. Uh but I'll take it on. I'll take it on. Allow me to time travel for a couple of seconds as I respond to your question.

[00:01:51]There are five key moments as I think of it. The first was a state of confusion and uh stress that I was right after class 12 where I felt I was incredibly skilled, passionate about serving people um had communication skills and I was involved with problem solving and creative arts.

[00:02:14]Uh but I did not know where to take my life to. I felt confused um you know and unguided and to find VIT and the mentorship I found here and the support I found here I think was a pivotal point uh we'll talk about it over the course of our discussion today but that was one of the moments. Second I would say uh is a combination of other moments but it is essentially the moves uh I would say I have made uh geographically uh over the past decade.

[00:02:44]I think being brave to move across the country to velour um and Bangalore during my early career stages and then moving across the world to America and within America in California, North Carolina and now very Texas. These moves have have had a big impact uh in my journey and have transformed how I approach ambiguity, uncertaintity and things that I don't understand. Um so yes I would say that is the other one.

[00:03:16]Third I would be is more recent. It's my my focus on health. I think very suddenly I realized uh you know I was that I was burning myself because I was pursuing growth from a uni dimensional mindset over the past decade where I was working very very long hours not taking care of my health not sleeping well enough and and you know my hormone health and a lot of other metrics were not declining. Uh but running a being brave to run a few tests and speaking to experts was phenomenal. I that awareness replaced my fear and and over the past couple of years I think taking care of my physical, spiritual and mental health. It is far ahead in my priorities than it ever was and uh so yes really proud of that uh breakthrough moment. So these are primarily the three but I want to mention two more because it would I would be doing discredit to this conversation. I would not if I don't highlight it. One is meeting incredible people. I feel that you know my comparative advantage is the people that I have met in my life who through their stories, their backgrounds and their diverse perspectives have allowed me to extrapolate what the world is. So and they have guided me through some really really difficult times which which I feel has been transformational. So the people uh and meeting them at different points of distress, pain or opportunity was was profound. And finally this moment itself uh you know sitting right opposite you here in VIT uh 10 years hence um le more confident not confused uh it feels special it's definitely uh I would say it ranks highest amongst these five moments uh but it's an outcome others have been inputs right so that is why I mentioned those ones first but this feel this one feels special because this is where my purpose to give back to this community comes to surface where I want to help the students. I want to get involved with your efforts here in college and and see how from the industry not only myself but my friends and alums and peers how we could come together to help solve a growing problem in the industry and how we can bring value to those 18year-old versions of herself that are studying in these schools and classes today not just at VIT across the globe. So that is the size of this moment and I hope that I'll find more hands to support me in this effort.

[00:05:40]>> So how do you feel coming back to VIT and being here in the podcast? How does it feel?

[00:05:46]>> It feels great. Uh difficult to articulate that in a few words but I feel grounded. I feel welcomed and valued just I did just as I did when I was there as a student and uh yes I feel very very grateful that you know my life has come a full circle in this last decade and I I have a chance to contribute to the university and give back for all it has done for me.

[00:06:09]>> Wonderful. So let me start with what are your few beliefs or frameworks that you know that has really helped you you know approach your life what you actually believed in. There are three main approaches that I have taken to life in the past decade. One is self-awareness. Knowing oneself more than anybody else can. I think that has really given me a very strong sense of grounding uh as I pursue opportunities serve people and corporations in the past decade. The second is the focus on personal health and spirit. I think that is something that I had not prioritized enough in the early half of my career and I realized that to be able to deliver my best and contribute as I said to the world I needed to perform with a sense of athleticism which includes sleep you know uh exercise uh even breathing as a matter of fact were things that I worked on to you know to achieve the eariness that I was referring to and third I would say is uh not not uh you know not overvaluing certaintity rather doubling down on exploration and curiosity because the world was changing much faster than than I could prepare for. So I realized that readiness I would say a catalyst to success rather the ability to work uncertainty ambiguity and learn things quickly was going to be the skill of the future. So yes I would say these were the three things uh that have particularly helped me a lot. Abid as we all know that you're currently you know you know you know in Texas Austin Texas and you're working there as a industry GTM at uh you know uh Amazon uh uh energy AWS energy so can you just share because your transformation journey from a VIT student to you know such a big post so can you just share your journey >> yes 100% I think uh it's I've been very fortunate uh to meet people who have trusted me and my skills over the past decade. So I have to first give them the credit. Um VIT uh was a great place where I where I was able to build my foundation not just from a skill standpoint but also from the sheer awareness of diverse people around me.

[00:08:27]Just knowing that the there were people coming from such diverse backgrounds and pursuing life uh quite similarly was eye opening and I think that set the tone for everything that I've experienced in the last decade. starting out first in Bangalore uh working as a decision scientist at New Sigma. I think analytics and data science which is still picking up at that time and uh serving a fortune 500 clients globally from India uh and offering them that entire analytics value chain experience uh was was quite a rich experience at for my tender age of 2021 and uh I think that kicked off uh some great opportunities but there was one thing that I I learned during that experience that it was very important to bridge technical problem solving with business communication and articulation which is why I stepped out in 201 uh 17 for my masters in business analytics at Duke uh in uh in the west coast of the US.

[00:09:26]Spent a year uh around equally diverse people uh a very rich uh focus on bridging gap between business and and data and technology. I think that was the focus of the school which really drew me to the program. it was in its first year and to trust that program and to approach it fearlessly was probably one of the decisions that I'm really proud of. Thereafter I would have I had assumed that things would be much smoother you know having completed two degrees with some work experience under my belt. It wasn't so in fact it took me 6 months to find my first job in the US.

[00:10:01]Uh it was also my last day that I could legally be in the US uh without a job.

[00:10:06]So uh so looking back 10 years to that day feels special at the moment. Um Faxpan was the company that gave me that job. ever grateful to give me a start.

[00:10:17]It was a young startup still it's still taking its baby steps and pursuing a journey like New Sigma. So while it was in my playing field, it was starting at a very different point here. Not only did I need to deliver the entire analytics value chain for which we had 8 to 10 odd people at Musigma, I also had to grow Faxpan's business within our clients ecosystem. So serving such a comprehensive role single-handedly gave me a lot of confidence over those two years and and again as I said very grateful to Faxpan thereafter I got a lovely opportunity um at Dell. Uh Dell pulled me from California where I was working at Faxpan and they pulled me to Austin and I was I was thrilled to meet the quality of people at Dell. I mean the maturity, the demeanor, the calmness, the class and the business sharpness. I think to get that exposure from these top executives um at a tender age of 23, 24 or 25 was just I mean I've been very fortunate uh but so yes uh uh it that gave me a B2B experience which was the first time for me so learned something new again. Um I also found a great mentor in in in my boss Roberto. I have to mention him.

[00:11:39]He's also my boss today at Amazon. Uh an equally uh aspirational man who who takes pride in guiding young guns and has you know uh so yes he drew me to AWS and AWS I serve the energy industry oil and gas power utilities water. Um the role is also based in Austin. Uh so it was it was convenient uh to have but these two roles in particular the one at Dell and uh AWS have have challenged me the most um and again challenges privilege and and I couldn't be more happy about it and yes I think while I was pursuing these jobs I uh and these experiences very lately it occurred to me that maybe it's time for me to give back and yeah it led me to I went to it led to it led me to come to vit >> inspiration aid great and uh recently I've read a you know a statement aid which stays that there is no failure it's feedback so you know that that's really you know touched me there is no failure there's only feedback so I just want to know that what are some of the mistakes you know the feedbacks again I'll say the feedbacks that you got during your you know the college life and during your journey What do you believe that students are still making those mistakes? It's still not changed. They are still committing you know things. So what should be done to change that? What do you think are some of the mistakes that students are making? That's a beautiful question. I think uh mistakes need to be reframed.

[00:13:18]Uh mistakes are beautiful if you don't repeat them.

[00:13:22]>> Wonderful.

[00:13:23]>> And are an addiction if you do. And um while I can sound very wise saying that I have to give a lot of credit to my mentors first which includes my mom, dad and my sister. Um my friends Prince, Karan, Yash and so many others uh like Pranav who are you know these are friends that I have across the globe who have held me during my most difficult moments and guided me through my mistakes. So I'm going to now highlight to you three to five mistakes that you know I believe have been foundational to my journey. Uh one is trying to overprepare and become perfect before I approach opportunities.

[00:14:06]That held me back because the it was necessary for one to be incremental.

[00:14:13]work on yourself iteration by iteration and not wait for the perfect moment when you will be ready for an opportunity. I it never works that way and I think that is why opportunities were slower to come to me in relative to my friends who were much more iterative much more experimental um and let allowing themselves to fail. I wasn't allowing myself to fail in the first place. Yeah, clearly that image of failure or a mistake was bad in my head. So that is the mistake that I'm referring to. The second one I would say is not approaching the world with curiosity rather fear. So that is something that uh you know I have some you know it has dramatically changed the outcomes I've experienced in my life. So now every time when I I fear things much like everybody does you know uh I I try to replace that with curiosity and that has been profound. It has drawn me to new opportunities um that I would not have known had I been approaching the world with fear.

[00:15:16]And I would say third mistake is not approaching growth and success from an from a lens of health and sustainability.

[00:15:26]I learned um only very recently a couple of years ago that we need to be operating like athletes even in business because when I looked at athletes in sports and and you think you think think of any sport formula 1 cricket football badminton they are not just perfecting the skill that they have to exhibit during the game they per they're working on their mindset they're working on their physical health they're working on spirituality they are working with therapist in fact they're not successful alone own. They're working with a team of people. So, it's a team success number one and their focus on these themes of health and sustainability is what's allowing them to thrive. So, think of Roger Federra, think of Lewis Hamilton. They are respected not just for their success but also longevity.

[00:16:12]So, I think that is something that I'm still working on. Um uh it's been a great journey. I've seen my energy levels jump. I see how I'm operating. My results are better. I'm building better relationships with myself and others. So yes, I would say these are the three mistakes I have made and and I would not be the person that I am had I not made those mistakes. So thank you for the question by the way. I know wonderful. I think the the student community are going to get deep insight from that.

[00:16:39]Great. So how VIT has shaped you? I think that is one thing which all of you really want to listen to. What is that transformation that happened in your life you know because of VIT? Could you just insight on us? That's a that's a beautiful question. It almost makes me feel nostalgic.

[00:16:57]When I think of VIT and the impact it has had on my life, I would say there are three things. One is a foundation.

[00:17:04]It gave me an excellent foundation to build from.

[00:17:07]Two is the experience the safety net of pursuing projects and experiences not just within my own school and outside my school to new choosing electives working cross functionally uh uh within the ecosystem of vit was phenomenal and something that I adore the most is the people uh and when I think of people I am thinking of my friends who was who many of them were my roommates uh my professors who somehow found a way to like uh a restless boy that I was. Uh so yes I would say people uh the foundation and the experience are the three things that VIT has gifted me and that has allowed me to approach my journey over the last decade with a lot of uh curiosity, enthusiasm and risk appetite which I would not have had I not got uh that experience at V. All right. And next question again. Um what do you think are some of the you know uh the student community can really work on can improve uh you know with the recent AI and things changing you know day by day because recently I've heard a quote if you study for today you're jobless tomorrow you know kind of thing. So what do you think are some of the improvements that the VIT students can make and you know work hard and change it which will really bring an impact to their life.

[00:18:32]>> 100%. I mean a big part of why I'm sitting in front of you Anu today is my passion to help students because uh not too long ago I found myself in a helpless situation and my mentors, friends and the ecosystem here at VIT came to help. So you're right that you know students need some help but I want to first lead with the problem. The problem is that the world is changing faster than the curriculum is.

[00:18:59]So by the time they are through with their curriculum we have a new technology, new tool, new approach, new sector the world is interested in. So what this is doing is growing the gap between academia and industry and this is where you know uh people like yourself in the academic ecosystem and many of us in the industry need to work hand in hand to support them. Now coming to what they need to do I think what they need to do is replace fear with curiosity. Number one, it it instantly your anxiety dissipates in seconds the moment you frame you shift that frame in your head that I'm going to read more about it. If you just spend 5 minutes reading about something you fear, you will don't experience the fear thereafter. So this was one relevation that I would share with them. The second thing that I would urge them to do is be fearless in their approach. I think uh uh I was very fearful uh uh you know the onset of my career. I was trying to make the best perfect decision.

[00:19:58]In fact, today the best perfect safe decision is also is only the riskiest decision because those things are being automated. So being fearless, approaching new sectors, opportunities uh uh with enthusiasm and curiosity is what is going to give them their growth and success. And third, networking. Yes, I mean we all talk about networking being important, but I feel that building a community is a community and what's the difference? The difference is the depth of relationship that you build and how fostering of that relationship is important to you more than just the outcome. I'll tell you why that is important. That is important because today we are not seeking help enough. We have asking for help is one of the other things that we need to get good at. And when I say we, I consider myself a student much like them. So asking for help is the third thing that I would encourage them that create the community, network, meet with people and ask for help when you need it. Don't struggle in your silo. Uh that is not how companies are solving problems.

[00:21:02]Companies are making teams work in very close-knit ecosystems and and none of them are feeling helpless despite solving really hard problems. Then why are we feeling so why are problems in school feeling so hard?

[00:21:15]Because we are solving them independently in fear. So those were some of the things that I would say uh Anu are I mean now that I think of it I can think of a couple more but I'll never limit myself to these three. Wow, that's that's an eye openener. And uh Abid, I've been uh you know going through your profile and there is this one quote you know which is really struck me. I think it's I should mention uh in this podcast and it goes the world doesn't belong to the smartest it belongs to those who are willing to evolve. So could you just elaborate on that?

[00:21:49]>> Yes and and and and it has really stuck with me. I think uh humankind all of us I mean if you think of us as a species we have seen really tough times in this world you know not just in the past decade but over the past century or two we have thrived through all the through all those changes.

[00:22:10]So what that should serve as inspiration for us today. The world is changing today for us very much like our much like for our ancestors 10 years ago, 100 years ago, 200 years ago. Adaptability in evolution has allowed us to continue to prosper despite our challenges and continue to add value for ourselves and others.

[00:22:32]So there is no denying that evolution and adaptability is going to help us surf this phase of the world as well.

[00:22:39]where I have found personally myself operating for a good part of my life is not in evolution and adaptability rather being very rigid about what I want what I care about and how I'm going to operate rigidity of that kind uh may not necessarily be fruitful because the world's changing very very fast so if you are able to adapt imperfectly and improve iteratively then you are going to fare much better in this world than Somebody is saying that you know hey I'm going to be doing this and I'm going to be doing this and only in this way and for so long because you know many of those things are not in your control but what is in your control is your ability to manage the change and and operate with your own guardrails around it. So that that is what I meant by that quote and yeah it has played a big role in my growth and and allows me to approach problems whether it is professional personal uh with a sense of resilience and I could also recollect you know one more uh you know statement from your you know the sessions that been through I've been uh listening to it and it says industry rewards judgment so industry rewards judgment could you throw a light on that.

[00:23:55]>> Yes. Yes. I mean I mean it's actually it tracks back to a pretty embarrassing moment for me. Uh I was sitting in a in a room full of leaders and executives and they and I was very early in my role in one of my companies that I was working at and suddenly I received a question from an executive. They said that you know hey we are launching this product we plan to scale it across a few geographies over the next 9 to 12 months. So Abby, what where do you think how successful will the product be and where do you think we will land with respect to revenue next year? And I found that to be a to be an odd question to ask me because I did not have data. I did not have tools. I did not have Excel files open. I I had no pivots ready. So how would I approach this question? And I could not I was blank.

[00:24:39]Um and yeah uh they let it pass. And I went back to my boss to ask him that you know hey boss how do I respond to these situations if I do not have the data tools and infrastructure to support my response how do I respond he's like Abby they are not judging tools system and data when they're asking the question that they are they're assessing your judgment with the imperfect limited or no information that you have today.

[00:25:11]How can you apply your intuition to the problem being discussed at the moment and give your best possible judgment is what gets you paid and rewarded in the world. Today we are only trying to automate and systemize this judgment through systems. If you first first principle thinking I know that's exactly what's happening. So how do we make the best decisions and how we teach systems to make the best decisions and that I would say comes under the umbrella of judgment and and I think that is what I want to orient students to today than tools training and and and and infrastructure which is important but are like ingredients to your favorite dish rather than the dishes itself. So Abid uh you know all the conversations that we are going through one thing I really wanted to ask is I felt is you have amazing mentors in your life you know your entire transformation journeys you have a lot of amazing mentors so uh could you mention some of the mentors that you had in your entire journey let's start with VIT so some people have really inspired you the most in VIT and then your journey from there to uh you know the Dell and Amazon the entire journey so people have really inspired because I believe mentors play a predominant role. So mentors, people who have inspired, it doesn't mean that it has to be a human. Sometimes it can be an experience. It can be anything. But could you mention some uh people who have really inspired you in VIT?

[00:26:32]>> 100%. In fact uh mentorship uh uh is critical. I would encourage everyone uh to embrace it. But before I tell you who those amazing mentors are anu I think I'll give you something that I learned from dad very early and because he's my greatest mentor a very silent mentor who has mentored me through action and execution rather than talk um I'll credit him with this quote he said you don't choose mentors mentors choose you and I got that first experience of the escort in vit and I can't think of one I can think of many but I'm going to name a my proctor to begin with, Professor Shalini. Uh I was a com I had I had just arrived to VIT and I was confused and I was scared and I was in a in a part of the country that I'd never been to and the way she held me and comforted me and guided me. uh I couldn't have absorbed or taken the taken in that experience without that nurturing and guidance that that she provided very nently in my career uh during my time at VIT.

[00:27:40]Thereafter that allowed me to embrace mentorship from so many other people at VIT. So she's a seed mentor at VIT. I would say if I have to take a few names just to you know I would say harisita ma'am she was I think heading the CS department at the time. She's played a big role in my career. Uh I'm really excited to meet her. I know I think she's moved into another campus but but I'll catch up with her soon. I met uh Vijaya Shirley ma'am uh professor yesterday. She had come for my session uh which was which is quite nice because I remember how fondly I used to attend her sessions and to to see her sit through my session was was very special.

[00:28:18]Professor Sona ma'am I think she was another incredible lady. I haven't spoken to her in all these years but her softness and her ability to reprimand constructively was the most profound thing I found in her personality and also because I scored the most in her class. So she's she is my favorite. So these are some people I I really admire at VIT and because I've taken a few names I I also want to take a few names across other legs of my career if you don't mind.

[00:28:44]>> Yes.

[00:28:45]>> Uh one person that I've also not mentioned is my mom itself. She's also been my best cheerleader. Uh she's been a mentor who's mentored through also action and execution but also how to soothe and manage recovery. And when I talk about recovery, I'm not just talking about physical recovery. How do you recover from failure, pain, heartbreak?

[00:29:13]uh I think she has really exhibited those values and virtues through her life really well and and through her actions has inspired me how to be more resilient. So a lot of credit to her.

[00:29:25]The few other names that I can think of is Roberto. Uh Roberto is my boss today at Amazon Web Services. He was also my boss at Dell. In fact, he was the one who pulled me from California. Um and you know, so he's been a constant in my life for the last 6 years. He's taught me I mean so many things that I can't I mean he's he I remember meeting him as a 24 year old or a 27 year old man who was still finding his feet in the world and 6 years hence not only am I being able to communicate confidently in executive rooms but also deliver my insights recommendations and serve the business with a sense of clarity and less is more mindset. So great I mean I continue to have him as a mentor which is special. I have incredible friends Arun uh Aru in my in my life. I cannot obviously take everyone's name but I feel very privileged to have the people that I have because I wouldn't again I can't tell you I feel that has been my comparative advantage and uh so I'm just going to name a few people that one is Prince Shaker uh Waluri he is also a an alumni of VIT in fact a roommate at one point uh he's still a friend and in US so he's really special he's he's given me a lot of humility and he's taught me humility and grounding We have Pranav, Yash, Karan.

[00:30:51]Um I'm I'm sure I'm going to forget somebody. You all have played a big role. These are some of the mentors that I've had in my life uh over the past decade.

[00:30:59]>> So Abida in your session uh there is one word which I have you know which really got my attention and that is decision lab. So could you just throw light on it how it's gone? What is it all about and how it is going to help the student community and >> 100%. Yeah. decision lab uh is my effort to help solve a problem that I see in the industry today where I see a big gap or a growing gap between the industry needs and the prep that students are going through in academia.

[00:31:27]So yesterday I actually ran a pilot uh with a set of 50 plus students where I took them through that through a set of experiences that I believe would bridge that gap and those and that entire program in my view is the decision lab where I'm helping these students work backwards from decisions and judgment which is what brings revenue, value, reward or anything to businesses, entities and people and help them track back that journey.

[00:31:58]work backwards from these decisions.

[00:32:00]Understand why they need to be made in a certain way. Understand context, understand incentives, understand backgrounds of people who are making decisions. They all play a role, not just systems and tools. And then finally, we track back to tools, systems to support our awareness of the business problem, our customer, the value. So this piece is a gap today. So yes, through the decision labs initiative, I'm I'm I'm essentially experimenting a program where we could help students work backwards from industry needs and and track that right back to what they are learning in college so that they feel confident stepping out of this program. And I'm not alone. I do not envision to uh to take this program forward. In fact, I trust the incredible alum network of VITs across the globe and not just VIT, I mean other places because I feel that this problem is not unique to VIT or India or US. It's this problem is quite prevalent everywhere.

[00:33:02]So I could use the help of anyone and in fact I'm going to reach out to uh my first and second order connections from VIT and outside to help support this initiative. But yes, but but this program is just my I would say is my effort to give back to a younger version of myself and everyone else who can relate to it.

[00:33:23]>> Wow, that's that's great and was a question which I always wanted to ask.

[00:33:28]What is one message to the student community of the IT?

[00:33:33]>> That's a deep question you've asked me.

[00:33:34]So I'm just going to take a few seconds to articulate my response. There are three things I would say.

[00:33:40]>> Yep. One is trust yourself.

[00:33:45]You've already fought really difficult legs in your life. You are in a new place in a new culture. Many of you are coming from different parts of the country. Uh embrace it. Don't fear it.

[00:33:57]Take it on with a with a sense of joy and privilege and enthusiasm that that you know many people are not being able to experience in in the world right now with everything going on. So value the privilege you have is basically one. Second, I would say it'll all work out, you know, and and and it's it always does. What's more important is how we conduct ourselves when it's not working out. I think that's where I have personally have had to do a lot of work which is how we manage ourselves during periods of uncertainty, ambiguity, distress, pain is what defines our character and trust, selfrust as well as trust in the community. So I would say work on those things. Don't wait for a don't try to create the perfect world because there is not. You will see these negative elements as you might think they are but that's where the best are separating themselves from the good. And third is don't forget where you come from. You know opportunities, aspirations, desires, goals will take you in multiple directions. Don't forget your family. Don't forget your culture.

[00:35:06]Don't forget your roots. Uh don't forget your beginnings. Stay humble. Stay grounded. Take care of your health. You will not be able to serve everybody if you don't serve yourself. So yeah, pour your pot first and it's not selfish. Ask for help. Pour your pot first. There are others who have their pot full and are helping others. Don't rush. Your turn to add value to the world will come. In fact, it feels special that I'm saying these things because I, you know, it almost feels like I'm saying these things to my to my younger self. And so, thank you for that insightful question.

[00:35:40]>> Great. Great, man. That's that's something really touchy because you know we could see as well as you know a lot of you know students who will be watching this podcast for them it's an inspiration you know they say baya look at his transformation journey right they'll be you know I could feel it they're going to take it and they're going to move forward with your journey now that brings to the end of we cast we university's podcast thank you Abadeshi amazing experience great insight a lot of uh you know information has been passed to the student community. So once again, thank you. Your inspiration, your your experience is going to share with millions of student community as well as the Albania community. Once again, thank you so much. Thank you to all the viewers of uh we cast. We are going to come back again with more such amazing, inspiring stories. This is your host Dr. Anu Basil signing out. See you in the next episode. Thank you.