Homelessness in the UK is a complex social crisis affecting approximately 500,000 people, including 170,000 children, caused by systemic failures in government housing policy, inadequate mental health support, and insufficient charity funding. The crisis is compounded by political decisions, such as immigration policies that fill hotels with immigrants while leaving homeless people without accommodation. Effective solutions require direct action, including providing not just shelter but also purpose, self-respect, and meaningful employment opportunities, as demonstrated by successful charities that employ homeless individuals. Individual donations, even small amounts, can make a significant difference, and public awareness through authentic storytelling is essential to combat the stigma and indifference that perpetuates this crisis.
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Good evening and welcome to the Truth Coalition podcast where we speak the truth, the whole truth. truth and nothing but the truth. And tonight is a special podcast for two reasons.
Firstly, how you do, mate? Me and Jason are in the same place podcasting in Jason's studio. And secondly, tonight is our 50th podcast. So that's falling lovely. But so it's a special occasion.
Me and Jason are here. 50th podcast. And uh as you know, tomorrow we're going homeless. So that's why I'm here in England. That's why I'm at Jason's. Um Jason, do you want to tell us a little bit more about that then? Yeah, tomorrow um we're going up to Hastings. You guys know we spoke about this a lot of times, but if you if you don't know, we're going up to Hastings and we're going to spend five well four four five days, four nights sleeping sleeping rough with the homeless trying to get some footage and raise as much money as we can for the homeless community ac um something needs to be done about it because let's be honest, there's nothing being done about it, is there?
>> No. No. It's going to be um it's going to be hard for us. We've we've spoke quite a lot about it today. We're both we're both quite anxious. It's been a a slow buildup and then the last few weeks it's as it gets closer. But I'm not going to lie, mate. I'm I'm bricking it and [ __ ] myself. We're going to be going sleep sleeping homeless on the streets. We're going to see a lot of um suffering from people. We're going to hear some tough stories. We're going to get tired and pissed off and cold and hungry ourself, which you know, if we can't manage a few days and I don't think we've really got any right comment on people who do this day in day out.
weeks, months, and years on the street.
Um, we spoke about it today. We're going to get some tough interviews with people on the street if they'll allow us to.
We're going to film the areas where they're living, and we're going to see how difficult it is. Going to hopefully call in on some of the homeless shelters and get their take on all of this kind of stuff and get some good footage. Um, but yeah, mate, I'm anxious. How are you feeling?
>> I've been [ __ ] myself for about a month. Um, to be honest, yeah, I don't I'm not I'm not great with it anyway.
Like, my anxietyy's through the roof or something. We s both suffer got mental health issues, >> but my anxiety has been mental, which means it's like physically hard for me as well. Like, >> physically my body hurts all the time and stuff like this.
>> So, I knew I can tell when it's getting closer because I get more and more >> anxious.
>> Physically more and more anxious >> and then like it was actually eased off a bit when I picked you up from the airport yesterday.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, it eased off a bit when I picked up in the airport yesterday, but now it's like, "Oh, man. We got tonight's podcast, talk to these guys here, and then to tomorrow, >> we're [ __ ] That's it. We're hitting the streets.
>> Bags are packed, sleeping bags are ready, tarand's ready, we've got our clothes, we've got our what we've got to be using. We've got our recording equipment. Um, and we're going for it."
And, uh, I'm looking forward to it.
Excited again. anxious, scared, every bit of emotions going. But I was a bit anxious this morning in the car. You were a little pop out, didn't we?
Changed some cash and stuff for money that we've raised for the homeless people. And had a wander around a supermarket and I was >> Yeah.
>> catching my breath a little bit because, you know, it's been a long time since I've been in the UK as well.
>> Nine years.
>> Yeah. It's a long time. That's a long long time.
>> Yeah. A lot's changed.
>> And the weather, the the UK hasn't let me down because it's poured down most of the day. Really, it >> English weather.
But yeah, um you know, we're going to do it and we're going to really get stuck into it. We're going to do these people proud. We're going to shine a light on the homeless, which is what our campaign appeal, whatever you want to call it, is shine a light on the homeless. Um, and we're going to hopefully make a difference and hopefully the right people when we finish this documentary and we put it all together in a few months time. Um, it the right eyes can see it, the right ears can hear it and hopefully somebody will, you know.
>> Well, I think that's where most of the nerves come from really from from my side is I want it to do well.
>> Yeah. I mean, I'm not I'm not very worried about sleeping rough. To me, I just look at it as like we're camping without food.
>> But, um, it's more I want it to do well cuz I know how important it is to shine a light on on the situation.
>> Um, we've emailed like a lot of the like some news channels, some good news channels >> and some poor news channels. The way we see it is if if someone could take this and spread it wide and then it shines a lot more light on on the situation and in this country, then then the better.
So fingers crossed that somebody picks it up. But we will work our ass off to make a good >> um >> a good documentary for you guys to see on this channel.
>> Um and then hopefully we can get some some of the raw footage away >> to other channels to >> That's the plan, isn't it?
>> Yeah. Maybe earn some commission and and help the homeless even more.
>> Yeah. And say it isn't about us. I mean, you know, we're not doing this to become famous or put any money in our pocket.
Like you say, we've raised just shy of about £3,000.
>> Um, and that's all going to be getting given away this week. We're going to be donating some to homeless charities and and people who work with the homeless at some points this week. So, we'll have footage of that. Um, and this is about the homeless people. This is why we're doing and you're right what you say there, the anxiety. I mean, I'm not worried about camping out. I mean, I spent many years in the force. I've slept in worse conditions. But, um, it's about doing these people proud. I mean, we've planned this for what, eight, nine months now. And slow buildup, slow build up. We spoke about it a lot. We we've spent money ourselves, obviously me flying over, we bought recording equipment. Um, it's about doing these people justice and hoping that, you know, we go out there for the four nights and the five days and we get the footage we want. You know, there's no point just going out there and having a few days where we go camping and not and and not get the footage we want. We've got to, >> you know, we've got to do that because by doing that, >> we'll we will make a difference. And then hopefully, you know, one day we see this on a TV channel or on a news channel or something and somebody says, "Wow, look at this, you know, these people." And, you know, like we said initially, the initial plan to do this was to to help the homeless people. But we can't stay away from the political side of it. It is going to be political at points because we've got homeless people living on the streets while other people who, you know, >> I think it's become more political as the time's gone on, right? because we understand the situation in this country and we can't really walk away from it and we don't like politicizing it because we're trying to raise money for for homeless people, but >> we we have to recognize that these homeless people are homeless because the the government's filling up hotels and stuff with immigrants and leaving our people on the street. So whether we like it or not it is political um we will try our best to stay away from it but we have to highlight the fact that >> these people that we're going to go and see they could have accommodation they could have somewhere to live they could have help but they ain't getting none of that help I mean these people when we went down there to speak to them giving out um blankets clothes in in the winter to try and keep them alive because so many were were like leaving this mortal coil um just speaking to them they they can't even get they can't even get help from the like benefits or universal credit cuz they got no fix abode. So it means they literally got nothing. The only thing they can rely on is how much money can they beg that day.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, and the community where we're going to and this ain't just about Hastings, you know. We're doing it in Hastings because I've got family down there. So it means something to us. Plus we got to help coming to charge our camera equipment and stuff like which we need. Um this is why we're doing it in Hastings. is really to shine a light on homeless homelessness across the whole of the UK.
>> Yeah.
>> And meeting some of the homeless community community down there. So, they were so friendly and so helpful. I mean, I was trying to give stuff away to them and they're going, "No, I'm going go and see Roy outside Tesco's outside co-op.
He needs it more than me." I mean, I got homeless people turning turning donations away to go and help someone else cuz they need it more.
>> Yeah. you know, and it's it's unfortunate if that we spoke there was a guy in um who was sleeping in a bus shelter literally on the seafront and it was freezing like freezing freezing cold. Unfortunately, he he died, you know. So, we we met a guy and then a week later he's died because it got him, you know, the weather got him, the cold weather got him and and he just >> it's just sad, man.
>> Ironically, the day that that guy sadly passed away was the day that Kastama was visiting Hastings, wasn't it? He went down there, visited Hastings and and decided to give a grant to the council to plant trees in the city center.
>> Yeah.
>> Um >> that's not smack in the face with these.
>> He's down there shaking hands and people are putting flowers on on this guy's bus shelter cuz that's where he was sleeping, an open bus shelter. Um even now like you go down there, his stuff got cleared out and then then another girl took over that bus shelter cuz it's like a prime spot to to beg. It's a it's a bus shell where people get off the bus there and it's right in the middle of town so they can ask for people as they get off the bus. I suppose it's a prime spot >> for a homeless person to get money >> and a young autistic girl took that spot and um I've had word from my cousin, she's no longer there either. Um, so what we've got to think about, mate, it's quite realistic that while we're filming this and documenting this, it's highly likely that we could one day be speaking to someone and then the next day they're not there or we stumble across somebody who sadly, you know, no longer alive.
>> And that is going to be um I mean the cold weather the cold weather got most of them this year. I mean what was it the last time I checked 1,00 what was it up to? 1,700 um died in a died in a couple of months.
I >> think it was something I have to check the date.
>> I know some between October and March or something about 16,700 people. So there's probably more since then as well.
>> So a lot of people died in the cold weather. Homeless died in the cold weather. Um and then you're looking at the ones that are dying of hunger.
>> Yeah. dying of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, >> illness, you know, >> illnesses, bronchitis, >> mental health, suicide, you know, >> and then just the fact that it's a dangerous place to be in. It's a dangerous situation. Like, we're quite lucky as in we know where we're going. We know kind of what areas to stick to. As I say, I've got family down there, so I kind of know what areas to stick to to stay away from um dangerous situations because unfortunately in a homeless community, they're desperate.
>> Yeah. you know, so there is a lot of violence in in the homeless community, but we kind of know to stay away from that. But that that's another that's another threat that they face every single day is >> some somebody's desperate. They need that more than them. So unfortunately, they can lose their life that way as well. Um plus >> they get put if they get if they end up in hospital, they don't stay in hospital. They might get a flu or or bronchitis as you say, um some kind of infection. They go into hospital, get some antibiotics, they kick back out into the street. Yeah.
>> Another reason they they lose their lives. It's just um it's a terrible situation. It is a terrible situation and hopefully we can do something to change it.
>> Yeah. And you know we are determined to get all kinds of footage. You know we want to get some nice moments with these people where we can just sit and have a chat and if if for five minutes we can give them a bit of warm food and a drink and humanize them for five 10 minutes and have a chat with them and put a little smile on their face. We'll do that. But we're also determined to get footage of the not so nice moments as well. You know, there's going to be some moments we'll get on camera which are going to be difficult to watch. But we have to get that footage if we can because if we're going to shine a light on the homeless, we have to get warts and all, don't we?
>> Yeah. I mean, you have to get everything right. You have to get no matter how sad it is, no matter how disgusting it is.
>> I will I will try my best to get as much real footage as I possibly can. You know, I try I try to be respectful as possible, but I think it's important that it say we do come across a homeless person that's um overdosed, for instance, and and then they they pop their clogs >> with with all respect in the world, I will be recording that because I need to point out I need to show the world >> this is what it's like. This is real life. I'm not going to shield the really disgusting moments >> because people are a bit scared to look and they don't want to feel bad >> or or lose a bit of sleep at night knowing that they've allowed this to happen. Yeah.
>> Cuz I I do blame >> I blame humanity for this.
>> And the thing is as well, this is our documentary. This is nothing to do with anybody else. There's nobody funding this. We funded it all ourselves, you know, our equipment and stuff. This documentary, we decide what we put in the documentary and this is going to go on our YouTube channel. If in the meantime, you know, a TV company was to come to us, the only way we we we'd allow them to get involved is if if they allow us, everything goes in there.
Yeah. You know, that >> I mean, they have to show >> brutal reality.
>> Yeah.
>> Brutal reality. Or we see it even trying to raise money. We see it. We see how how unkind humanity is.
>> Just just attempting to raise money when you got people that go, "Oh, >> they're just going to spend it on drink and drugs. Yeah, >> they put their in that position. And you got that kind of mental mentality when you when you're talking about people living on the streets. And then we had a conversation like someone put a picture of a a dog tied to a lamp post.
>> Yeah.
>> And they raised thousands and thousands of thousands of pounds for it.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, it just shows you what kind of how humanity looks at things. And I and I personally believe I don't know about you, but I personally believe that people make them excuses so they can sleep at night.
>> Yeah. We said this today, didn't we? If it makes people easier to to sleep at night by, you know, saying, "Well, I I donate a charity. I give to a dogs charity or a cat charity that makes them feel better at night." Fine. And listen, I've got dogs, cats, you've got cats.
I've met your lovely cats. We've a lot of us have got pets and I love my pets.
But I don't believe any pets should should come above a human life.
>> No. You know how people can justify giving 10, 15, 20 pound to a cat charity to buy some cat food, yet walk past people on the street and just look at them like there's something on the bottom of the shoe. I find that quite disgusting. And I've seen the attitude from many people since we've started this. You know, people have said it to my face. I'm not giving money to that, >> you know, and I just I just smile and go, okay, no problem. That's your prerogative. But it doesn't stop me pointing out the fact we've just said it there. They would rather give money to, you know, a video of a dog tied to a lampost in the rain with some sad music, they'll throw the money at that. But you show a picture of a human being sitting on the street, freezing, skinny, starving, suffering, struggling, and they refuse to give money to it. So that's the reality of it. And and pointing that out is it's quite sad to say really. We're human beings and we should look out for each other, but people are like you say, they'd rather look out for an injured dog or cat than a human being. I've had some really depressing moments trying to raise money for this. Yeah.
>> Where I where you don't quite realize how bad humanity is until until you do something like this and you try your best to raise money. I mean, we've been we've been pushing for what, nine months.
>> Yeah.
>> Give or take. Nine months.
>> And um we've managed to raise just under £3,000.
>> Yeah.
>> And I'd think to myself like I've got thousands of followers on social media.
>> Yeah. You know, if even if all of them just gave a pound, I would have had 15 grand sitting there.
>> Yeah.
>> Do you know what I mean? It's just like I've got some lovely people that some have donated anonymous. I know who they are. Some of them donating anonymous, some of them haven't. But we have had some some amazing people um donate to our GoFundMe and um they have helped so much and and these people are not they're not rich people, you know. These are people that just care.
>> Only last week somebody donated £100.
Yeah.
>> Anony honesty. We know who it is, but then that's not the first hund she donated.
>> No. No. And it's just like when you got you got them certain type you got a certain group of people in the world that actually care.
>> Yeah.
>> Actually want to donate their money and actually go you know what this is an important situation to be in uh situation to to contribute to because if we ain't going to do it, no one else is going to. We can see that the government ain't going to help these people. We can see that the councils ain't going to help these people.
therapists don't want to help these people. You know, medical um medical professionals don't want to help these people.
>> So is people like me, you, the the people in the comments, the people that donate that we're the ones that are going to maybe save someone's life.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, >> that's the plan, mate.
>> And let's be honest, like even if one of these guys don't one of these people donated a Fiverr, that's that's food for for a day. You know, you you you might have saved someone's life.
>> That's a coffee. That's a few packets of chicken soup, you know, some hot water or, you know, a couple of pasties or something or, you know, a bottle of water. And even if they want to go and, >> you know, just buy us some cigarettes or something, some tobacco, whatever gets them through the day or whatever it is, it doesn't matter. I mean, that's what it's about. If everyone in this country, there's 70 million people in the UK, if every every person in the UK donated£1, we could end homelessness.
>> Yeah. 70 million of home, we could end homelessness in the UK.
That's that's that's how simple it is.
>> And I mean the figures are close to now it's close to about half a million people homeless on the streets of the UK. And that's and I think what is it that's about 130 odd >> 170 odd thousand children >> children.
>> That's that that we're not that's not homeless. That's >> homeless or without a permanent fixed abode. That's people who are >> B&B, social housing, HMOs. But that's not every night. Some nights they could be on the street. One night they could be in a B&B. One night they could be in a hostel. You know, the next night they could be managing to sofa surf on some.
But these are people who haven't got a regular home. Um but eventually, you know, the luck runs out for these people. Eventually they do end up on the streets. And you've also got to think about from my point of view is the you've got veterans.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, served >> people who've served in the forces. Not everyone's gone to action. Not everyone's seen war. But when these people sign on that line and take the oath of allegiance, they sign knowing that they could possibly go to foreign waters and defend their country under fire, possibly risk losing their life and see the friends lose their life. Um, and these people are on the streets and they just fall by the wayside. Nobody cares about them. Nobody cares about the mental health. A lot of their mental health issues have been caused at serving in the forces. Um, and it's just not good enough. I mean, >> it's not good enough. It's not good enough. Like I've known we've known each other for a while now and I got to know how your mental health and how it affects your life, how it affects everybody's life that you you're associated with, right?
>> And you you haven't had the the the correct help and you could have had the correct help coming straight from that.
I know you're one is like maybe >> um built into your DNA like your borderline personality. Um but there still should have been more help for you, >> you know, and I interviewed a ton of veterans at um a veteran event >> and it's all the same.
>> They go they they're in they're in the army. They get they get stripped down to nothing, built back up again as killers, you know, to protect the country. Your only family are the people that you bunk with.
>> You go out and you put in high-risisk situations where you could lose your life at any minute and you rely on the person next to you to keep you alive.
You do all these things, you come home, they go, "Cheers mate. See you later."
No, no. Here you go. Let me get you back into the real world slowly. Let me reinstall some values back into your life.
>> Integrated into I mean you're coming from one life to another life and you don't know anything about that life.
>> No.
>> Uh the closest I felt to that again was last night getting off the plane. You were there to me. We was just great. But I just felt this tightness of the chest like >> Yeah. you know, and and you're just not ready for that situation. And you know, these people are completely different.
They're coming out of the forces and they're dumped into Cibby Street and they're just expected to get on with it.
And they're in certain situations. You can hear a loud noise bang and it sets you off and all these kind of things.
And yeah, these people are just left to their own devices. And >> unfortunately, they end up homeless.
They >> end up homeless. And a lot of them do.
And a lot of them end up taking their own lives because they can't cope with it. be not even, you know, it's bad enough being homeless, but being homeless with with the lack of mental health support that they're getting um is it it's a recipe for disaster. It's very Yeah. I mean, I that's what I'm saying. I've never served, but I get confused with a veteran all the time or or someone who served. Everybody thinks I've served for some reason. Um I think it's because of my sick personality, but um people do think I've served. But just when I get to know these people that the one thing that is always prevalent is they miss the family. Well, it is it's it is a family.
>> Yeah, we've had this conversation before, haven't you? You know, everyone around you family. Now, listen, you might not like everyone in your family, and we don't always like everyone in our family, but they're all family, you know, and and you can one week you could be in barracks going out on the piss with them, having a drink. three weeks later you're on exercise or you go into a situation where yeah his life your life depends on him and his life depends on you and vice versa and the people around you and uh you know all of a sudden you're in Civy Street and you've lost that blanket them that big massive two arms of the forces that wrap themselves around you when you need them all of a sudden that that that's not there no more and you're in Civy Street and then you're homeless and I've heard someone go if anyone can sort of survive better on the streets is someone who's been in the forces they know all these survival skills That is absolute [ __ ] And that is that's just an insult to say. It's you when you're when you're in the forces, you're not living homeless. It's your job. You're trained to do that. You know, you're trained to sleep out and all that kind of stuff.
It's completely different. You've got people around you have a responsibility to them. They have one to you. But when you're out on there in the street, >> for anyone just presume, well, it's it should be easier for a homeless a veteran to to be homeless because they've got them instincts. No, it's not. It's not a battle. Well, for one, when you're in a military, if you're if you're if you're out on tour, you've got the equipment that you need to to survive.
>> You got the the people around and supporting you.
>> When you're when you come home and you got no support and and perhaps you can't live in your family life anymore, like your family environment because you've got PTSD and maybe your wife's pissed off with you or your kids don't want to know you anymore kind of thing because of the way you are because you've just been dumped in the middle of nothing.
And when you live homeless, I I don't care if if if someone's been been to war. It's you're you're talking about a completely different animal, mate.
That's a different beast.
>> You're are alone institutionalized. It's almost like you been in people go in prison. Different scenario, but people go in prison.
>> They leave prison and they're not given the correct kind of, you know, reintegration in society. A lot of them either lose their mind and go back to what they were or they end up back inside because they find it easier to to be in there. They're institutionalized.
And it's similar in the forces where you you're living this kind of life for for a while. You're a soldier. You you present as a soldier. You you live by a set of rules and you you're trained a certain way and all of a sudden you're out and that institutionalization around you is completely gone. So it's it's it's understandable why a lot of people a lot of veterans end up homeless. And I'm just talking about men and I'm just talking people from you know you're not talking special forces just talking all walks of life RAF, Navy, whatever it may be. They've all been in high pressure situations. Just because somebody is in boots on the ground under fire, they're in certain jobs where it's high pressure where people's lives depend on them and that, you know, that plays with the mind. So when they're out the forces, you could be somebody who's who's a ground worker at an airport, but they're setting jets off and all this kind of people's lives depend on them. So when they leave and that high pressure's gone and they're just left on their own, you know, they they just fall by the wayside. And sadly, they're allowed to fall by the wayside. And I personally don't think anybody, no human being in the this year 2026 anywhere in the world should be living on the street without any food.
>> I just don't think they should be on the street.
>> No, I do not think they should be on the street. There has to be an alternative way to help these people out. Now, there's a there's a homeless um there's a homeless charity in Hastings. Um it's called I think it's called E- News or it's a strange name.
>> Maria will be able to tell us if she's in the chat. Maria will be able to tell us what it is.
>> It's a It's a strange name. Um, but these guys have got like a house clearance.
>> Yeah.
>> Business. So, they have a building, they got house clearance. They take that they take the furniture out people's houses and then they sell it for sec sell it secondhand and that money goes into their charity and they got a block of like units behind the warehouse where they keep all the furniture. The homeless people work in this work for them.
>> They they duct a little bit of money out their wages so they can live there.
Yeah, they've got clothes, they get their washing done, they get their food cooked, they earn a bit of money if they got a little side hustle, they earn a bit of money, and they all work for this this company. And I just think to myself, what an amazing what an amazing way.
>> Emanuals, does that say?
>> There it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Emanuals. Yeah.
>> We're going to go down there, aren't we?
We're going to Maria's told us about that. We're going to go down there.
We're going to introduce oursel.
Hopefully they'll let us get a little bit of footage and chat to some of them people who they've helped to sort of get off the street. And the the one thing that comes to mind for me in situations like that is you're giving these people not just a bed, a roof over their head, some food. You're giving them the respectability back and you're giving them some some selfrespect >> and purpose. Yeah. Purpose and respect.
>> Yeah. They give them you're changing one one day they're on the streets and they're wondering where they're going to get the next meal from. All of a sudden, these people have come in and changed their lives.
>> Well, we we I was speaking to a fellow down there. Me and my cousin were speaking to a fellow down there and he's from down London way. And uh but now he's up there and he's got he's got a job with him. He's got his own place to stay and he's like he's changed his life now. He's got he's got food on the table. He's got somewhere to live. Now he can see his son take his son to school, pick his son up.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, he's actually he's put so much life back into him because of this one charity went, you know what I'll do? I won't just hand them money. I will give them a meaning of I give them a meaning of life. I'll give them a purpose to be here, you know, and a bit of selfrespect.
>> And we're going to go donate and donate some.
>> Yeah, we're going to we're going to give them some of our money. Yeah.
>> We're going to give them a good chunk of cash.
>> Amazing place.
>> Yeah.
>> But this is what this is what needs to be done. The the the government out there and the government grants and and and I'll be real with you. I' I've proper deep dived into charity organizations when it comes to homeless and um they're cons. Uh see what happens is these charities can claim a kickback from the government. So they can claim a grant from the government every single year uh per head. So, per homeless person that they can the local councils and the charities can get kickbacks from and and it's something stupid like £22,000 a year per homeless person, you know, from from these councils. And and these councils pay homeless homeless um charities to like a what what do they call it? Like um a fund.
>> Yeah.
>> For a fund. So there's no incentive to stop homelessness.
>> Yeah. Because the councils claim it from the government, the charities claim it from the councils. And when's the last time you see a homeless person with £22,000 a year?
>> No.
>> You don't see it.
>> So there's no incentive for any of these people to stop homelessness in the UK.
There's none whatsoever. And this is why we're seeing so many homeless people.
And the numbers building and building and building. These charities and the CEOs of these charities are getting richer and richer. The council leaders are getting richer and richer and richer. and our government and our tax money is becoming more and more expensive. It's like a it's like um it's just like a a conveyor belt of of corruption.
>> Yeah.
>> So it takes people like me and you independent people to go out there and go no all the money we raise. We we're giving it to them to the point that I we actually had editor we actually we talked to a few editors and they wanted us to pay them and I said we said no we're not paying you charity money to edit videos for us. But we've decided, haven't we? We're going to do it ourselves. We're gonna get our own footage. You know, this we don't need permission from anybody to to do what we do. And we decided back back in September, October what we were going to do. We're here now. Um we're going to decide what footage we get, what footage we put in our documentary. We're going to edit it oursel. We're going to put the credits on there. You know, anyone who's helped us along the way, anyone who's donated, um we'll try and get all the names in there. But um we're going to put in what we want and we are we are not going to let anybody dictate to us what we can and can't show. And I think that's a lot of the problem is is is I think when you you know you look at other similar kind of projects I know nobody's ever done what we're quite quite uh kind of do but you won't see the mainstream news channels filming something in this way and showing you the real hardship of it. you know, they'll just show a few pictures of someone sitting homeless and, you know, and that kind of thing.
>> We will try our best to get as much footage, as much raw footage as possible. Um, and just tried to keep it real as possible.
>> You know, this is a lot for us and and and um I know that it might seem easy or maybe me and Jay seem like we got everything under control and we got our head screwed on, but >> I mean, this is a this is a big deal. Uh me mentally this is it's taken its toll.
Financially it's took its toll. Um but we're so set on doing this and and raising awareness that we we we're going to go through with it. But it's hard, man. Like trust me, if you ever plan on doing something like this, it's easy to say it. It's hard to do it.
>> Yeah.
>> Because as time goes on and we built up today, it's just been nightmare. Like hard hard work to maintain a good mental state. We're fortunate in the sense that we got each other. So if you're having a down day out, come on, mate. I can lift you up, you know, give you a hug, whatever. Same way other way around.
Look, I'm struggling today, mate. Come on, Jay. Up you get. We lift each other.
We were there for each other. We're going to do four nights. We can do it.
We're going to do it.
>> There's people out there who've done four years.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, and some of them have got nobody there for them. Yeah. They've got the homeless community, but you know, at the end of the day, they're out there.
It's doggy dog for them people out there and they are on their own.
>> Yeah. We was talking earlier what trying to make a plan for tomorrow and and it's you have to come to that realization like >> how can you make a plan for going homeless?
>> Yeah, >> you can't. We're just going to be go we're going to go there.
>> Yeah.
>> My wife's taking us down. He's going to drop us off.
>> Y >> and that's it. We're done. Now this is what homeless people do. You ain't got a house anymore. You ain't got no food.
You ain't got no money.
>> There you go.
>> First thing we're going to do is going to go and find somewhere. We've we've got a few pointers of where we can sort of go find somewhere pretty nice and safe to sleep for the night. Um, so we're going to go and check that out once we once we sorted that and we know where we're going to sleep and we think it's going to be fine that way. We're going to be able to sort of shelter ourselves and stay relatively warm.
We've got sleeping bags, blankets, and and everything we need. Then once that's done, then we can when we're going to go out and about and just get some footage for the first sort of day, get footage of where the homeless areas are, get footage of the homeless people. Um, and then maybe introduce ourselves to some of them and just say, would you be up for an interview? And if they are, then we'll go back the next day and get some interviews, some footage, and you know, we're going to be on live through the day on Tik Toks and we're going to be going live on on the night time on on >> This is quite important, guys.
>> Yeah.
>> So, we will try throughout the day and and stuff, we're going to we try and go live on Tik Tok. We can't give you certain times, >> but if you see us on live, know that we're homeless and we're on live. And while we are on live on Tik Tok, >> we will be putting up requests for gifts. Yeah, >> we don't often do it, but we will be putting up requests for gifts because all the gifts that we earn while we're homeless will be going to the charity.
We will be going to the homeless charity. So, well, we will be pushing you for gifts and hopefully anyone in the comments will also help us push for gifts and share the share the live so we can earn as much money as we can uh for these charities. And you have to subscribe to our YouTube and share that everywhere because in the evenings we're going to try to go live on YouTube uh to build the channel up. So yet again, it's the same it's the same situation, right?
We need to we need to get the subscribers so we can grow the algorithm so we can do more things that we're doing now.
>> Um but it's like yeah, it's the nature of the beast that we need your help >> to help us to help them. And we're going to be doing some daily diaries individually, aren't we? You know, I wander off for five minutes and just get the camera on myself and just see how I've felt and give my perspective of you. If I s if I see you've been struggling, I'll be honest and you'll be the same. And we maybe just do little five minute videos each day and we'll put them on our YouTube. Um, put little clips out on TikTok so people can see how it's affecting us and, you know, whether we're up, whether we're down.
We're going to need your support. We're going to need your support right the way through it. Um, you know, words of encouragement, anything like that. But like Jason says, when we're going live on Tik Tok, we will be asking for gifts.
Um, it's something we never do, but on the in this situation, every single day we go on Tik Tok, we will be asking for gifts. We'll be asking you to share, share, share, and share to anybody that you know, just share it and keep sharing it all the way through. Um, the GoFundMe is still active. That will stay active for even after we finish this week. um for any money that goes in there because any money that goes in afterwards, we can still go down there and get >> Yeah.
>> We keep it active because we can just carry on floating money to to homeless people, you know, we can just carry on doing it.
>> Um if it stays active, it stays active.
We know we got we got plenty of charities that we can send the money to if it keeps growing. So, it will it will stay active. But >> we we we need the help, not us, you know. It's not about us. It's about them. They the homeless people need the help. The homeless people need food.
They need clothes. They need places to live. And and and they need the awareness. So don't think about me and Jay. Just understand that it's not us. It's we're just doing this.
We're like a I don't know what you call us. Like um >> we're there to help. We're just helpers.
>> Yeah. We're a vessel. We're we're just being we're just a vessel for for what they need. And >> um yeah, they're desperate. So, if you can help, uh, please do and make sure you share all the time. Share, share our share our content, uh, share our lives and and get people jumping on this with us, giving everybody a hand.
>> And if any of you happen to live in that area or you know people down in that area, message them, tell them to come and see us, come and come and visit us.
While we're out there, we're going to be speaking to people on the street, just the general public, and and explain them what we're doing, introduce ourself. um telling them telling them why we're doing it and we're going to be getting their opinions, what they think about the homeless situation and you know and and and and how and if if they're aware of anybody they know homeless, you know, and give us their experiences as well.
But um yeah, you're right. It's not about us. We are just a vessel. We're just helpers. We're there. We're there for a reason, you know. We're not there for us. This isn't about me and you to, you know, to to try and make us look good or anything like that. it is there.
We are simply there um to help these people who are homeless. And at the end of it all, we've got something to look forward to, haven't we? A little bit to look forward to. We've had a lot of support um going through. So, I I shout out the people that have support us. So, we we will cla who's he's helped us along. We got my cousin Maria. She's done tons and tons of footwork. Like, she's been absolutely amazing. Cousin Maria has been absolutely amazing. Done so much for us. Um, we got KJ's wife who's been like a massive support in organizing like the event and talking to the people behind the scenes and and obviously trying to put part up with this one here. You know, it's been it's been I guarantee it's been a nightmare.
And then we got my wife Rama. We call her Rama. She's another Maria. She's just saying, >> can I just say I met Rama for the first time last night and today if she's watching Rama, she made a barbecue today and I tell you I have never tasted barbecue food like that in my life. just what I needed before tomorrow. So, but she's an absolute diamond. Lovely, beautiful woman. And you know, you're blessed to have somebody like that, by the way.
>> I am, mate. Yeah. Yeah. I I truly am.
And she's gone through it. She's putting up with the bad bad parts of me and and stuff like that. And she's been with me long enough now to know to know when I'm when I'm when I'm approaching something this big that I'm I'm I'm actually pretty difficult to live with. But we've sused each other out as well over over the I mean, how how did we meet? Let's just go back a little bit. We sort of met May, June, July time last year.
June, June time was it just through Tik Tok. We were sort of friends with other people and then I got me account band and I come up with this idea of the truth coalition. We should have a truth coalition where us kind of people who tell the truth, we stick together and all that. And then >> we started off and we said one day, why don't we have a podcast? We got together and we became the truth coalition. There was four of us initially. Um then it didn't quite work out and then me and Jason took it on and now here we are, like you say, we're 50th episode. But over them months, we've chatted a lot, you know, video calls, calls, and doing all this kind of stuff. And we've learned a lot about each other, you know. You know, >> it's hard, man.
>> We're not as tough as we think we are, you know.
>> No, it's been and it's it's been a journey, right? It's been a a journey.
Like I said multiple times already on this episode that we both suffer with mental health. So Jay's got a certain mental health and I've got a certain mental health and sometimes they completely so different which makes them clash. It makes our mental health clash.
So you can feel a certain way and I go what are you talking about and then I feel a certain way you go what are you talking about? So it's finding that balance but I think it's worked well >> if I'm totally honest mate because >> we kind of leveled out to all right so I kind of get when he's like this just ignore it and he's like this he needs like oh need do you need this? Do you need that? You know so >> sometimes you just need to be left alone don't you? And a couple of days like you me how you do mate. You're all right.
You're all right mate. Yeah. And we don't even need to say how was your two days been. I know you've struggled and you know I have >> but we've been we today went through a couple of our old podcasts back in the day >> and we're actually quite pleased that we haven't changed. We're both still the same people we are from the first podcast we did. Um we we haven't really changed. We bring our own personalities to every single podcast. We're both two completely different people.
>> Yet we are two very similar people as well.
>> You know we have a lot. you know, our fundamentals, our thoughts on life and how you should treat people, how you should be treat, and you know, all that kind of stuff. We we share a lot of the same values, which is amazing. I'm going to try and see some of these comments.
Let's have a look.
>> You ain't got your reading glasses on.
>> No, I can't read them.
>> You got one from my wife there.
>> Is that my missing? It's been bad uh as a wife.
>> It's been hard.
>> There you go. It's been hard as a wife.
>> We're always right behind them. All of you are part of this journey.
>> Oh man, I'm going to get emotional, man.
of it.
>> Yeah, it's been it's been it's been a journey. It's been a journey. And as I say, we've been doing this for a while now. Look, there you go. Happy 50th episode, lads.
>> Yeah.
>> Isn't that mad? That's worked out.
>> Yeah. And it weren't planned.
>> It weren't planned, though.
>> It was It was last week when I said, "By the way, you do realize when I get to yours, our episode's going to be 50."
You went, "No way." I went, "Look." And we counted through and it's episode 50.
>> Yeah. Episode 50. And um we've got the the audience that tune in every week and and listen to us travel on about some crazy stuff, but they've been amazing.
Um Jolene, Caz, uh UK veterans always on here. We got some new ones on here. Um we got here, we got the American, she's in here somewhere.
>> I mean, these people are like every week they tune in. It's absolutely amazing, isn't it?
>> Yeah. Do you know what? We said this the other day, didn't we? like the same people every week tune in and give us great feedback and support us, you know, not just on the podcast, but off it. Whether we're on our Tik Tok or Facebook, wherever we are, these people pop up and they support us all the time.
And we had a comment. Do you want to tell us about this comment we got on our YouTube the other day because it it blew us away a little bit because we are only on we're not quite at a thousand subscribers yet. We're a little bit away off it. I hope we're going to hit that this week. Then we can hit the algorithm and we can really take off.
>> We try.
>> But we got a comment this week. What was it again? Can >> Yeah, I can remember it. Let me address this one first. UK veteran says, >> "Uh, guys, you're an amazing pair. I look after you both." No, you know what, mate? We we we follow you quite closely on all of your social medias, and you're just you're just like we are. You just want to tell the truth and and have the truth come out there. So, I think we're all the same. You're all in the same boat. We just we just use each other voices.
>> Um yeah, we had a good comment from um someone called Scalar.
>> Yeah, >> Scar sank. um can't remember, but the comment was um we're uh we're um it's we're criminally a criminally underwatched channel. Um pretty much we we our podcasts they they really love our podcast and we should have more more eyes on us, >> which is >> I agree. I I agree with him. Yeah.
>> I mean, no, I mean this is a really nice comment to have when you work so hard.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. because we do we we work like extremely hard to get the right um content to put out there. Make sure we're doing the right thing and and and the and and the news what we put out there is correct or or at least as correct as we know it, you know. So, we do a lot of research and a lot of work goes into it. We do our podcast on a Tuesday and Friday. So, even like I'd finish on a Friday and we're already researching all the way until Tuesday.
We get Tuesdays and we're researching till Friday and it's like an endless loop of >> trying to find what we what are we going to talk about? What do the audience want? Um and and try to keep you lot entertained and engaged and maybe teach you a few things that you might not have known before you tuned in. But you know what? Do you know why we do it? Because we absolutely love it. Yeah, we absolutely love it. We enjoy doing it this together. Um it's a shame we can't do this every week. I would love to be able to just sit in a studio, me and you, every single week like this. But um >> Oh, your boy's there as well. Shout out to your boy. Uh Dr. Tism.
>> Oh, my son's in there.
>> Yeah. Shout out to Jack as well, cuz he's always super supportive.
>> How's the weather, Jack? It's been absolutely It's all right now. Nice red sky. It's dry, but it was it was raining all day, but we did have a barbecue still when the rain stopped. Jason's wife cooked a lovely barbecue. So, >> she's Romanian. They do the >> Yeah, we do this because we love it. We do this because we believe in what we're doing. And we were actually watching YouTube most of the day today. And we was looking at some some YouTube accounts. We're like, "Wow, look at that. 500,000. One was like 1.2 million.
Imagine if we ever get there one day."
But you know what? One day they only had 800 subscribers.
>> They started like us, >> you know? They started small and then they built up. And it's because of >> people who subscribe and people who enjoy the content. If you do the right content, you stay true to yourself, we will grow. And if we can grow, we can grow anywhere any them kind of sizes over the next five, 10, 15 years, then imagine the lives we can change if we did that.
>> You know, look, look what we're doing this week with, >> you know, less than a thousand subscribers. Imagine what we could do with 50,000, 100,000, 200,000 subscribers. Even, you know, them dizzy heights of a million subscribers, >> the lives we could change and the difference we could make if we did that.
So, that's why we do it.
>> Yeah. And that's the thing, right?
That's what we set out to do. And you know what? We've we've spoke about this before and we've and we've turned a few situations down where we've been offered um certain avenues to take or certain a few different paths to take and we've turned it down because it it clashes with our morals. Like we set out to go, do you know what? We're going to tell the truth. We're not going to we're not going to push it like unnaturally. We're going to let we're going to let people find us and if they enjoy us, they get to subscribe. They get to stay and we get to grow a family. Yeah.
>> And a community. And that's how we look at these people. And that's and anyone in the comments will will will know exactly what we're like. Um we welcome, we help, and we love to stay in in communication with people. That's why we got the WhatsApp group. Yeah.
>> If you want to be in a WhatsApp group and you ain't that that email address up there, drop your number in there. We can add you to the WhatsApp group for the podcast. But we do like to keep in contact with our with our subscribers because you are us, you know, and we're only here because of you. So yeah, subscribe and and all them things, but we appreciate everything people are doing cuz it gives us opportunity to do what we're doing now.
It's, believe it or not, it's such a unreal situation to be in knowing that we are going to go and do this thing tomorrow.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> It's a it's a life changing.
>> I've calmed down a little bit though since we've come on and spoke about it because >> today we were both anxious. we were chatting about this afternoon and we we sort of put a plan together and once we put the plan together we were like cuz we put a lot of pressure on ourselves we're going to do this we have to do this we have to do it that way and we sat today and went hang on a minute and we sat and we had a discussion we're like we need to do this we need to do that everything else in between it'll come together and then we decide we're going to edit this oursel it's going to take us three four five months to get it fully edited but we do it our way you know we'll have emotional music in if we need a few voiceovers in there we're going to do all this ourselves between us we've got the software we've got the experience experience. Now, we've got the skills to do it and more than anything, it's going to be our touch on it because like you said, we've had other opportunities to go in different ways to help us grow even possibly quicker. But these people didn't want they wanted to have their input on how we did things and we've always been from the beginning. Now, we're going to do it our way. It's our way or or not at all.
And that's why we decided we're going to do it our way. We're going to get the footage that we believe is going to make this documentary. And whether we crash and burn or whether we end up having the most successful documentary we could have ever believed in, it's going to be on us. So if we fail, it's on us. If we're successful, it's on us. But we're not going to let anybody dictate what we film, how we film it, how we produce it, where in the past other people have wanted to take us on a direction that can maybe make us grow a bit quicker.
But we'd have been we'd have been slaves to them and we're not that's not us. We want to be true to oursel and like I said, we haven't really changed me and you from the first few podcasts to where we are now. We might have got a little bit better professionally speaking more on air and stuff. Our studios have adapted yours and mine, but apart from that, we as individuals, we haven't changed and we're not going to. We're not going to. And guys, if you ever think that we're getting above our station or you think we're changing a bit, we want you to tell us.
>> Yeah.
>> Because we do this and the feedback we get from you so far has always been fantastic. But at the same time, if we do anything that you think, "Oh, that ain't quite working." You're the people that you need to tell us. It's you people that leave to let us know.
>> Tell us so we can block you so you can't tell anyone else.
>> I'm only joking.
>> But you're right. Yeah. Someone's just put there Carol. Is that Carol there?
>> Absolutely a family.
>> Yeah. And absolutely a family. We are.
And we are building a community and again when we finished we got um my wife arranged it and between us we've all sort of finalized it.
>> We've got a massive event in the uh in the Sea Dog >> Sea Dog in Hastings >> next Friday from Yeah. I mean there's a band on from 8:00. We'll be there from what, five, six o'clock something like a bite a week and some drinks. We're staying there overnight, but we've got there's tins on the bar. They're there now. Maria's dropped them off. There's people there going to be donating money through the week. Um there's people traveling. Whether they get there or not, we don't know. But it doesn't matter. We're going to be there. We're going to let our air down. We're going to have a drink, have a bite to eat. Um and hopefully if anyone wants to come down and join us and just see us after this, come down. What state we don't know? Might be a little bit tired. Um we certainly won't be stinking had a shower by then. I'm not. I'm I'm going to go in pure sweaty and stinking. No, not really. The funny thing about all of this is, as you all know, I live in Spain and I still haven't managed to get one today. I haven't actually got a waterproof jacket, but I think we're going to be all right for the first couple of days. It may be a case of me I'm going to have to nip into Primark or somewhere like that and just go and buy myself a cheap waterproof jacket because I haven't got one. I don't actually own one. The jackets I do have in Spain are just for like sort of summer weather if it gets a bit chilly on an evening.
>> Well, we went to pick one up today. So, we went we went into Bognar. We went to a charity shop and they didn't have nothing.
>> Yeah.
>> There. And it's just like everything else is closed. It's all right.
>> That's some nice flowery shirts, mate.
>> Yeah. When we get there, you have to get a jacket. You come from You're over here from Spain, so you don't know anything warm. I mean, he's got thin jogging bottoms on, believe it or not. They're like little climber called jogging bottoms. They're no good.
>> They're all right.
>> He's come over with his Spanish attire and he's back in England where it's raining all the time. So, he's going to have to get some gear tomorrow just to keep himself safe.
>> So, first thing we do when we get there is we get done. You know what I can do with some long johns? Actually, they'd be perfect. Some nice long johns. And actually, you know what? I've got them at home. Like, not long johns, but like, >> you know, like compression pants, that kind of I should have brought them, shouldn't they?
>> They'll be all right. We'll have a nip in Primark.
>> Yeah. You need something warm, though, mate.
>> Definitely need something warm.
>> Yeah. But, um, first thing we do tomorrow, we'll go and find somewhere.
We're going to get our head down for the night, locate that, and then, uh, have a mooch around, and we'll just go from there. We're just going to, we're not going to put ourselves under any pressure. We've got four full days really and four nights to to get enough footage to to produce a really really good documentary. And we back in the day we were saying I want to do eight episodes now. We're going to be realistic. If we can make a good one and a half hour really hard hit we will document what we will do whatever we can.
>> Yeah.
>> And let's be honest, guys. As I say, like I said it a minute ago, this is not about me and Jay. This is about the awareness that we can put out there to shine a light for these guys and to to to spread a message that these people need our help. So, it's not about us. We are going there. We will do whatever we possibly can to get the best footage and and make the best moves to get them the things they need.
>> So, say we're doing it from Monday.
We'll be finished on Friday. Um we'll have all of our stuff. Please do decide to make the decision to come down to the Sea Dog to to see us. I'm hoping >> there's a few nice homeless guys down there that I spoke to before. I'm hoping that we can get them to come to the Sea Dog.
>> Yeah.
>> Um to have a have a bite to eat and and meet everybody and and have a few maybe a few drinks with us just so you can get to know him. There's a lovely guy down there. He's got a wicked dog.
>> Um long air, but he's in like a social housing now. He's been put into like a temporary accommodation. So, it'd be nice for him to come down because he knows the homeless community. Um, but yeah, please come down to the Sea Dog in Hastings on Friday and and say hello and help us raise a bit of money whilst having fun, listening to live music, having a few drinks and yeah, the band that the band that's on is it's one that's been selected by the the owners, but it's one they've used before and they say it's very good and it's a Friday night. Apparently, the sea dog gets very busy. It's going to be a lot of people in there anyway and our group um it's going to be our group and other people traveling down. So, it's going to be fun. It's going to be it's going to be nice. It's going to be nice to meet people. It's going to be nice just let our hair down a little bit as well. And if anyone does come, I like vodka and coke.
>> I ain't paying for nothing. I'm sorry.
I'm not doing I'm coming off coming off the streets. You look better by me saying. Um yeah. So that's it really. So what do we need to say?
>> Join in with our Tik Toks. Y uh help us raise money on Tik Tok for for the homeless community.
>> Stick your notifications on for both our I mean we have we have a new account now. So I won't be on my normal Tik Tok, the Truth Coalition one. I'll be on the Truth Coalition podcast Tik Tok where we we're trying to get to a thousand followers on it. That's what I'll be using because we're trying to build that now. Yeah.
>> Because our other ones over the time we've we've told too many truths and the suppressors.
>> Um so we'll be on that one if we can and possibly yours. Um but get the notifications on. Um so when we go live you'll get a notification so you know.
Come and join us. Even if you've only got five minutes if you maybe you're busy at work or whatever just join in for five minutes. Leave your comments.
Give us your support. We're going to need it. Same on a night with YouTube.
>> Same. Same with the YouTube. With the YouTube one, maybe I can text uh I can text my cousin or I can text Cla saying, "Oh, we're going to try and go live at this time." So, if you can get if you if you get your notifications for YouTube, then blinding, you know, when we've gone live. Yeah. If not, hopefully Claire or Maria can put a a little notification out saying that they're going to be going live between 8 and 9 or whatever to try and get done for.
>> We should be able to be sort of reasonably sort of give you an idea to what time we're going. But we it might be a case of we got an interview we do with somebody at a certain time. So we got to get out of the way first and then you know before we can go live. We don't be going live. The main important thing is to get the interviews done and and everything else. So we can go live whenever. But yeah it'll be roughly sometime 8 n o'clock at night. I would have thought most evenings.
>> Yeah. And the best thing they can do like UK veterans said all the best anything I can do help where he can. The best thing you guys can do to help is to share. share the lives, share the YouTube footage that all the stuff that we put out on YouTube, share it. Um, get people make people aware of what we're doing. Um, that really help us and and and really help them. Um, guys, we appreciate it.
>> Well, get them notifications on. If you get your notifications on, your Tik Toks um and your YouTube, you shouldn't really miss us. Um, and yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah, definitely get your notifications on. I wonder if we still got >> I feel a little bit more relaxed now.
We've had this chat and we've explained what we're going to do. plan in action now. Um, and we're good to go. We'll have a good We'll try and get a good night's kit tonight. Um, >> yeah.
>> Yeah, I had a good kit last night, actually. I got about seven, eight hours, mate, in yours.
>> I didn't.
>> You didn't get many at all, did you?
>> Barely slept. But yeah, that's it. Done.
Now it's just uh panic all night until tomorrow. Let's >> go for it, mate.
See you all later, guys.
>> See you later.
>> Thanks for joining us.
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