In Romans 11, Paul uses an olive tree metaphor to explain that Gentiles (non-Israelites) are being grafted into Israel as wild branches, while native Israelites are the natural branches; this demonstrates that salvation is available to all who believe in Jesus Christ, not just ethnic Israelites, as the text explicitly distinguishes between 'natural' and 'wild' branches and addresses Gentiles directly as recipients of God's grace.
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Hello. Hello. What's up YouTube? Hope you guys are having a great day. As y'all can see, chat is working. I could see my chat messages in the bottom left.
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What's up everybody? Hopefully you guys have been enjoying your day. Hopefully you guys are be feeling blessed and highly favored.
It is Wednesday and I thought what better day than to continue the reaction we were doing or the debate review I should say we were doing on Sunday or was it Saturday? Saturday night. On Saturday night we did a debate review to God logic Avery's uh debate with Captain Taria where they spoke on if Gentiles can be saved. We did a debate review to that. So, it was a good debate. I actually enjoyed it. I should do more.
So, we're going to do part two. I don't know how many parts I'll do of this, but we're going to do part two of the debate review. We're going to try to get through the video.
Um, I think I'm going to use the summarize feature because this summarize feature on YouTube kind of gives the, you know, timestamps of biblical passages that were discussed.
So we have Romans 11 obviously this goes for a long time and we have Romans 9 verse 24 19-26 uh and then we have Isaiah 49. Those are the three main passages.
So we're going to 1926 it says Israel metaphor of natural branches the wild gentiles are king of Israel being restored. So, we're going to continue where we left off, which was in regards to the previous to Romans 11. If you if you're unsure, we when we're reacting, we were we left on off on the points that they both were making regarding Romans chapter 11.
Tazarak was saying that Romans 11 refers to scattered Israelites which is obviously unbiblical and fits nowhere in the text of scripture and logic was refuting that foolish heretical uh doctrine and we have made various points on Romans 11 while we're reviewing this debate. So without further ado let's just get into it. Let's continue. Also, if anyone happens to join who disagrees because there were people in the comments who were making clear that they disagree with the position that the Gentiles are non-Israelites, which is biblical. So, no problem. If anyone does disagree, you have every right to click that link that's pinned on the YouTube chat. You could also see it on Yeah. on your screen. You have every right to click that pin link and just join the stage and tell us why you disagree. You have every right to do so. Um, I'll be more than happy if you uh join and tell us why you disagree. I'll be more than glad to indulge that and respond to your question. Most definitely.
So, with that said, let's get into it, shall we?
Let's get into it, shall we? All right, let's continue from where we left off with about the seven minute mark. Let's begin.
>> Is also holy. And if the root be holy, so are the branches.
>> Those other branches are never attached to the root. When the branches get broken off, that's why in the in the metaphor, it talks about them being grafted back into a wild olive tree.
Jeremiah 11:16 that I just uh uh spoke about that he did not answer also speaks about the Lord bringing a fire to that same olive tree. I don't >> where where does it say that they're being grafted back in the the wild >> th would say then I'm sorry >> um if some of the branches in verse 17 if some of the branches are broken off and thou being a wild olive tree the tree is talking about the first fruit be holy and the lump that is also holy and the root that's the tree >> and so then it says and thou being a wild olive tree were grafted in among them and with themness of the olive tree both Testing. Testing. One, two, three.
Hello. Hello. Are we good?
Sorry y'all. YouTube just be bugging sometimes where it will like my my OBS will just say zero and just drop for no reason. I don't know why. So, sorry about that. But yeah, as I was saying, they always try to force this Judah, southern kingdom, Israel, northern kingdom distinction into into the word Gentiles when it refers to the Gentiles and the Israelites. The text doesn't say that. That's the thing, like these Hebrew Israelites, just like in my video I uploaded on Monday, how I said quote unquote pastor Gino Jennings hates the Bible, which he does. is because they import things into the text that the text never says or never demonstrates.
And the Israelites do the same thing.
The text never demonstrates. Text never says anything regarding the southern kingdom northern kingdom distinction in regards to the Gentiles in Romans 11. It never says anything regarding that.
There's nowhere where you infer that.
Nothing. It doesn't mention that at all.
However, these guys will go and try to import this distinction right back into the text. The text has no mention of it at all.
The text is clear. It's talking about native Israelites and how because salvation has left them for the rejection of the Messiah, the Gentiles have come in to make Israel jealous. If Israel is coming back in when it was taken from Israel, then Israel will not be jealous. It's using Israel as one group. It's not making a distinction within that group. It's taking one group, which is Israel. There'd be no reason for Israel to jealous if Israel is coming back in. What would make Israel jealous is if another group of people are given the kingdom, which is similar to what Jesus says. Actually, Jesus says this in Matthew chapter 21.
Let's turn there. Matthew 21, I think it's like 48 somewhere near the bottom.
Matthew 21 here.
Verse 42. Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures, the stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone."
Uh, this is what the Lord has done and is wonderful in our eyes. Quoting from Psalm 118, I think it was 23, right?
Yes. 22:23.
Therefore, I tell you, he to the Israelite leaders, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. Whoever falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but on whomever it falls, it will shatter him. You see, whoever falls on broken pieces on whomever it falls, it will shatter him. You guys see that? So Jesus is clear that because the Jewish nation because they don't produce the proper fruits, this kingdom will be taken away from them and given to a people that produce the fruits that he wants to see in his kingdom. So they're they're the nonsense they're doing is just funny honestly. Here uh here shall be broken. Shall receive my dance spoken put on a throne will ren raise upon it will grind in the powder who is celebration of glory and for the full improvement bring upon himself aggravated guilt and dreadful unavoidable destruction.
You guys see this? So on whom on whoever falls on it, who shall stumble at me in my doctrine while I'm on earth shall be broken.
Right? That's what the commentator says.
So it's clear that Jesus is making a point that the kingdom will be taken from the Jews and given to a people producing a fruit. It's fruit. You can't take something from a group and then give it to the same group. That doesn't make any sense. What would make sense is if it's taken from that group and given to a different group namely the Gentiles which is the whole point of what Jesus is saying here right this is the word used ethnos and you know how this word ethnos is translated can be translated I should say a race a tribe a foreigner a gentile hea You guys see? So this could clearly be rendered given to the Gentiles producing its fruits.
So they keep trying to import the Jew and southern kingdom northern kingdom distinction into the world into the word gentile when it just simply is not there. This distinction northern kingdom southern kingdom distinction the word gentile is not in the text. So when they try to import this in, it's it's just them adding to the Bible. It's unbiblical and it has no basis, no backing in the holy scriptures. It's ridiculous. It's crazy. Let's continue.
You want to say northern kingdom and southern kingdom. Some people say that because when Christ was on the scene, Christ said, "I'm not sent but into the lost sheep of the house of Israel." The tribes of Israel as a nation was not there. They were cut off. Another excellent example is the prodical son.
In the prodical son, you had the two sons. The two, you always notice it's always in twos because you had northern kingdom and southern kingdom. So the northern kingdom gets kicked out. He's wallowing himself in the swine. And when he comes back to the house and accepted of the father, who's angry about that?
The son that stayed. And so Judah didn't want those son, excuse me, didn't want his brother to come back. Isaiah 11:13 is another example. When it says that, >> what's this guy talking about?
[laughter] What what generally what is he talking about?
Let's go to the scriptures. He's trying to show that the nor this northern kingdom was left and the southern kingdom stayed and when the northern kingdom comes back, it's like the southern kingdom's the angry son. None of this is biblical, brothers. None of this is biblical.
Even by what he's saying, he's trying to basically state that the Gentiles refer to the scattered Jews of the northern kingdom. That's basically what he's trying to say. And that the uh the southern Jews they they stayed already, right? They they they have stayed. They have they are the prodical son who was upset. The son, not the prodical son, the other son who was upset. But Paul says, "I too am an Israelite from the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected his people."
Paul is calling himself an Israelite.
And he's talking about the group of Israelites saying that they have rejected God, but God has not rejected them. And he says he's a from the tribe of Benjamin. The tribe of Benjamin was joined with the tribe of Judah in the southern kingdom. So the southern kingdom was a part of those who were scattered. Was a part of those who were taken out. [laughter] You understand what I'm saying? The southern kingdom was part of those who were taken out.
So the southern kingdom was not always loyal, was not always faithful.
And even then, the northern kingdom was not some special tribe that's now being grafted in. They, like the southern kingdom, were disobedient.
So Paul is not making a distinction between north and south like he's trying to push and import into the text, which is unbiblical. Paul's clearly making a distinction between native Israelites and non-native Israelite. That's the whole point of what Paul is saying.
Let's keep going.
>> The envy of Judah and the vexation of Ephraim shall go away. So in verse 26 which is what I asked earlier when it says and so all Israel shall be saved as it is written. The subject is about Israel not being cast away according to the first verse verse 13 when it says I'm 14 rather when it says I provoked the emulation them which are my flesh that's found in Romans 9 and4 them are my flesh who are Israelites to whom pertain the adoption the glory the covenants the services and the promises.
So this >> okay I got you. So so when you said I didn't answer about 16 I feel like I did because when I you said that they're being grafted back in but in this context it doesn't say that they were never part of the natural tree to begin with. Exactly. Logic is 100% right there. The text is not mentioning anything about being grafted back in.
The text is saying that they were wild.
In the last reaction, we already went over what the term wild means. That it's not natural. It's something foreign.
It's something distinct.
If it was Israelites being grafted back in, they would not be distinct. They'd be the same group, just scattered Israelites.
But the text is clear. They are wild.
They are not of the natural habitat.
Israelites are the natural habitat. What would make sense is if these wild branches refer to Gentiles who are of a different nation, who are of different peoples, who are of different tribes, different kindreds, different groups of the world, who have taken up faith in the Messiah and are joined to Israel through the faith that they have in the Lord Jesus Christ. So him trying to push this northern southern kingdom distinction into the text to support his false doctrine isn't working. Avery shut it down right here.
So that's what I'm saying here when it says but if you I'm sorry but if some of the branches were broken off and you although a wild olive shootute were grafted in these people were not broken off of this tree in the first place.
They're bringing they're being grafted into the tree and now taking part in the nourishment. So you have the natural branches that were cut off before and now there's room for the unnatural branches to be grafted in. Like when you when you bring up like you said uh Judah and who else was it?
>> Ephraim.
>> Ephraim.
>> Israel. I think I say Israel.
>> Israel. So Judah and Israel. Are is Judah and Israel both part of the natural tree >> until he burned it in Jeremiah 11 chapter which I just read. He separated.
He kicked out the whole northern kingdom. He kicked out nine tribes.
>> He keeps trying to mention this Jeremiah 11 talking about they were all a part of the natural tree until he burned it.
This doesn't help his case. Let's go.
Let's go to the text. Let's go to the because he's trying to push this on the text. This does not help his case at whatsoever.
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Hopefully you guys can hear me to um that person in the chat. Oh od by odby to you in the chat. Um I literally have a link up for if people want to ask questions. So I have no idea what you're talking about.
He burned it. This doesn't help his case. Let's go. Let's go to the text.
One second, guys. I'm just trying to share my Let's go to cuz he keeps trying to push this on the text. This does not help his case at whatsoever. The Yeah, guys. I don't I don't know what's happening. Like, sometimes my stuff is just freezing up. I don't know. My My internet's weird. I'll have to check that. But yeah, um OD by whatever your name is, sorry. Um my Tik Tok link is in the des description of this video. So you could find my Tik Tok there. Um if you have a question, the link is lally pinned, which it literally says questions join. So you could literally click that if you have questions. Um for people that do have questions, they could always join the the to join the join the link. Like if they have a question they wish to ask, they could always join. Um I do do questions and answers. Not every day, of course, not every time I go live, but on um Sundays, usually Sundays, I'll do a ask Christian anything where you can join the stage and ask me any question that you may have. So, I do do question and answers.
I don't know what uh I don't know what you are, you know, talking about. You feel me? So, yeah, back to the text.
Even in the text that Tazariaak is bringing up, this olive tree that's flourishing, that's beautiful, that's well-formed fruit refers to the house of Israel and the house of Judah. He's trying to say that these branches broken off refer to the house of Israel, the uh 10 tribes that left uh from the southern kingdom tribes of Judah and Benjamin. But in Jeremiah 11, the branch that was the the olive tree that was set fire to represent an Israel both north and south and both of them were burned because both of them were sinning. So even the text he's going to help his case.
Stephen, I see your comment. You can join up uh by all means.
Just when you join up, say something so that I know you're here and I'll get to you uh right away. So yeah, he he again guys, he has no idea what he's talking about because in the text that he read it, it refers to the both the northern and southern kingdom that are ones being burned. So no idea what he's talking about at all. None whatsoever.
Let's get back to the video. Oops, open up the wrong thing.
Let's get back to it.
So wait, so I have a question. What did what did those nine tribes become? Uh >> they became the the other kingdom. No, >> no. When they got kicked out, what did they become?
>> What kind of he talking about?
>> So in 2 Kings the 17th chapter when he kicked out the northern kingdom. So they kicked out as a nation. So Ephra, Manessa, Ishachar, Gad, Nalia, etc. What did they become when they got kicked out of Israel?
>> I don't know.
>> I don't know.
>> That's the Gentiles that he's talking about.
>> What?
See how these guys just say anything?
See how these people just genuinely say anything? No, [laughter] they are not the Gentiles that the text is talking about, bro. They are not the Gentiles the text is talking about cuz even in the passages that these guys go to the text they mention regard always mention like a restoring of Israel together from Assyria from all the ends of Israel being restored and then it also mentions the strangers joining in Israel joining to aid Israel.
you this in Isaiah chapter 44 I believe or Isaiah 60 the strangers and the foreigners joining in the cause to help Israel to build up Israel. So even in what they're saying, what he's saying here, it cannot be that the Gentiles are the northern kingdom because in the same books where it mentions the northern and southern kingdoms being restored, it also mentions the foreigners joining to help and aid Israel and the foreigners being brought back into Israel.
But I won't go into that right now because Logic will go into that when they mention and speak on Isaiah 49. So we won't go into that right now. When they mention Isaiah 49, they will speak on that. Uh Stephen, uh you said you're going to you're joining. I don't think there's any issues with the link. You should be able to join up. If you are joining, shouldn't have no problems to do that.
>> What does it gentile?
>> What does it say to the Gentiles?
>> Okay, so let me give you a prophecy. No.
No. What does it say there? The Gentiles.
>> That's the word Gentile means nation. We agree, right?
>> Yeah. But you're saying that no. So I'm saying that the the Gentiles biblically are non Israelites.
>> Well, that's what you're saying. Even in the Zan Bible dictionary, it to say Gentiles are usually non-Iraelites.
>> Yeah. So my question is where does it call them where does it identify them as the Gentiles?
>> The context. If you listen to my >> context, what context?
Guy's running from the question. He made an assertion that the Gentiles mentioned are non-Israelites. Logic is answering a really general question. Where does the text say that? You know what I mean?
Where does the text make that clear?
He's just talking nonsense. He's saying, "Oh, they're non-Israelites." Well, brother, where does the text say that, bro? That's the whole point. Where where does the text say that? Cuz you can make any assertion you wish. You have to defend it and substantiate it from the text. The text doesn't say this.
>> Opening statement. Gentile just means nation.
>> So, where are they called the Gentiles?
>> So, I'm going break it. So, I'll give you an example. This is Genesis 48 since you want to know exactly.
>> Cheese and bread. He's running from the question. This is called running.
Answer the question, bro. Where are they called Gentiles? Nobody cares.
[laughter] Like Taz, respectfully, nobody cares on how the word gentile can be used at Genesis 48. Where does the text where does the Bible refer to the northern kingdom tribes as the strangers or foreigners of the Bible? Does the Bible refer to that, mention that, reference that? Um, even imply that? Where does the text do it? Cuz I can show you where [snorts] the text doesn't do such at all. Cuz the Bible repeatedly talks about how God will restore his people back together. He'll restore them. You can see this all in the early passages of um Isaiah. Trying to think of some places in Isaiah, you know, that Isaiah 19 is probably probably one of them.
Let's see. Maybe Isaiah 15. Ah, that's a that's a song. Isaiah 17 maybe. Like all the early passages of Isaiah, they they speak on this. Let me try to find one. Let me try to find one.
Isaiah 49's a good one. Obviously, Isaiah 24 maybe.
Let's see. Like early all like a lot of early passages in Isaiah mention this.
I'll just search it up and I'll get it for you. like Isaiah early chapters restoration north and south kingdom verses you can see it's in the early passage of Isaiah for example Mhm.
Let's see. Isaiah Isaiah 11. Isaiah 11. Beautiful passage.
There we go. Isaiah chapter 11 mentions this. It says verse 10. On that day, the root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples. And the root of Jesse refers to the Messiah. This is also shows the Messiah's divinity because he's at one point the branch of Jesse and he comes from Jesse's roots. But then the Messiah is called the root of Jesse, showing that he is the one who sustains the line of Jesse because he is the God who sustains the the line and lineage of Jesse. He's divine. On that day, the root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples. The nations will look to him for guidance and his resting place will be glorious. On that day, this time about the Messiah's kingdom.
When the Messiah comes in glory in his kingdom, the Lord and the Messiah's uh messianic kingdom, the Christian church specifically, the gospel era, the gospel age, the Lord will extend his hand a second time to recover the remnant of his people who survive from Assyria, Egypt, Paff, Kush, Elam, Shinar, Hamoth, and the coast and islands of the west.
He will lift up a banner for the nations and gather the dispersed of Israel. He will collect the scattered of Judah from the four corners of the earth. Ephraim's envy will cease. Judah's harassing will end. Ephraim will no longer be envious of Judah. And Judah will not harass Ephraim, but they will swoop down on the Philistine flank to the west. To there they will plunder the people of the east. They will extend their power over Edom and Moab. And the Ammonites will be their subjects. The Lord will divide the Gulf of Suz. He will wave his hand over the Euphrates. and it there'll be a remnant for his people who will survive from Assyria as there was for Israel when they came up from the land of Egypt. So the Bible is clear that Israel be will be reunited.
Even in the early chapters of Isaia it's clear that Israel will be reunited.
Those who went to Assyria the northern kingdom will be reunited with Judah.
Ephraim will have no reason to be jealous and Judah will harassing will end because Ephraim and Judah will be reunited. So when the text mentions the strangers even in the book of Isaiah in the book of Jeremiah in in context of the Bible these strangers would be nonIsraelites. It's contextual. This is what the Bible teaches. So when they say this nonsense like what Taz is saying they directly contradict the text of scripture. They are directly contradicting directly going against the text of the Bible. It it it's absurd.
They're just directly going against the Bible. They can't substantiate their points. Can't substantiate their claims.
Just directly contradicting the scriptures.
It's ridiculous, y'all. I don't know why they do that. I don't know how they do it, but they do it. Let's go. Let's go to 11. Let me open up here so I don't have to keep going back and forth. Was 11:24 my time stamp was. I think 11:24, y'all. Let's pull it up.
11:24.
Hey, Stephen, by the way, you said you're joining. Um, I haven't seen you join up, Stephen. So, I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I am waiting.
>> Call the Gentiles.
>> So, I'm going break it. So, I'll give you an example. This is Genesis 48.
Since you want to know exactly where >> that's a different one. So, >> no, it's right on the subject. Okay.
Yeah, it's right on the subject because this is prophecy. Genesis 48, when Jacob, excuse me, when Jacob was talking or Israel was talking to Joseph and he blessed Ephraim, this is what he said to Ephraim. And his father refused and said, "I know it, my son. I know it. He shall become a people, and he shall also be great. But truly his younger brother, which is talking about Ephraim, shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations." That word in the Greek or Hebrew, excuse me, would be gentile. So now right here we're reading Jacob or Israel tell Joseph that his son would become a multitude of nations or a multitude of Gentiles. So can you show me what nations did they become?
>> Well, actually that that ties in with the covenant that's given to Abraham and how he will be a father of many nations.
And how is it? Because the Bible says that it's through faith that Abraham was made a father to many.
>> That's not answering my question. It is answering your question. What nations did No. What nations did they become?
What nations did they become? They're not called Ephraim. So [snorts] what nations did they become?
>> Church. They're they're believers.
They're >> n Yeah. So L just given the right answer.
They are believers. They are the church.
Taz went to Genesis. What? Genesis 48.
So let's go there. Let's see. Let's see what the text says. Let's see what what he read. He's talking about nation.
Yeah. Okay. Jacob said to Joseph, God Almighty appeared to me. El Shadai appeared to me at l in the land of Canaan and blessed me. He said to me, I will make you fruitful and numerous.
I'll make many nations come from you and I will give this land as a permanent possession to your future descendants.
Your two sons born to you in the land of Egypt before I came to you in Egypt are now mine. Ephraim and Manasseh belong to me just as Reuben and Simeon do.
Children born to you after them will be yours and will be recorded in the names of their brothers with regard to their inheritance.
So the text says that many nations will come from you and I'll give this land as a permanent possession to your future descendant. We're not disagreeing with that, but the tribes themselves count as nations. I I don't think he he's understanding this. Like in the same way in the same way that Abraham's children were nations or Noah's children were nations. For example, Canaan was a child of Noah. Canaan became a mighty nation where Ishmael was a child of Noah. And Ishmamail and his descendants became mighty nations. Or Lot had children from his daughters. And his children, Moab and the Moabites and the Ammonites became mighty nations. The tribes of Jacob were nations as well. They counted as nations in the same way that these other patriarchs, their children, their children, their their seeds counted as nations. It's not like Ephraim was just one man and Israel is the nation. And Israel, Israel's the nation cuz they were all living in one air in one place, but they were all their own nation. Even if you if you read the book of Judges, you read all about this how they would they even fought wars against each other. The 12 the the 11 tribes fought against Benjamin. I think that's Judah.
That's um Judges chapter like 191 17. So they were nations. It's just that they all had a very closeness to each other because they came from one being Jacob.
Look, let's even look at the word used in Genesis 48:3 for nation. Let's look at the word Genesis 48:4. Let's look at the word used here. For example, let's point. Make you fruitful of people to come and I'll make you this land of peoples. This is the word. I'll make you fruitful of peoples, a company. So, this is the word translated uh nations. I will make you this land and will give for after you sense everlasting a possession. So uh I don't know what speaks it. Behold to me. And he said be to me behold I'll make you fruitful and numerous and I'll make you a company of peoples. Two words used here a company or group of peoples.
So the text is saying I'll make you a group of peoples. And that's exactly what happened cuz these na these tribes can count as nations because they were large people groups. They were large groups or assemblies or congregations or companies. That's a proper word. So he made out of Jacob came a large group of peoples because out of Jacob came the 12 tribes which was how many millions of millions of people. So this was fulfilled.
Stephen um Cornet I don't know I do have no idea if you're joining uh joining up.
You said you are but uh I don't see you.
So I don't I don't know. Let's continue.
>> Nation did they become?
>> They're the church. So y'all hear this?
He don't know the nation, right?
>> In the church. See, every you can do all this all you want, but you're not to answer. You didn't tell me.
>> I'm answering your question. I'm telling you the Gentiles in Romans the 11th chapter. Romans the 11th chapter, it says, "So all Israel shall be saved."
Because northern kingdom Israelites, are they the branches? It's like, >> "Yeah, this guy is not This guy is just ducking. All Israel shall be saved refers to the Gentiles who are non-Israelites being grafted into the branch. That's the whole point. That's why it can be called all Israel. I said in the last video because since the Gentiles are grafted in, they become Israelites not of blood or not of the flesh but of faith in the son of the living God and the Lord savior Jesus Christ. So they being can be called Israel unless it could be said all Israel because all Israel all the people of God are being saved both Jew natural-born Jew and Gentile.
Genesis 48 says nations because the tribes can be considered nations because they're large groups of people which is what the Hebrew text literally says. The Hebrew text literally says I'll make you a company or a group of peoples. That is what is written here. That is what happened. that out of Jacob will came many groups of people, many companies of people or it could be said many nations because the tribes can be counted as nations. The tribes have had wars against each other. The tribes are large groups that just have such a closeness to each other because they have that brotherhood because they come from Jacob. Like people act like the 12 tribes are like just not nations themselves. But that makes no sense. That would be the same thing as saying that Moab and Ammonite Ammonites are not nations. They're just, you know, brothers. They're just tribes of Lot, the nation. That doesn't make sense. They are considered nations. And the 12 tribes, they are just strongly connected because they come from Israel.
So, they are the 12 tribes of Israel.
But they are still nations themselves.
That's why they actually could be considered nations even when they split.
The southern kingdom, the Roman kingdom, those were nations themselves. And even then, you still have the tribes that were nations considered nations. and what not you. Does this make sense? So many nations, many groups of people came from him, but they are still native Israelites. That's the point. That is the point. He He doesn't understand what he's reading.
>> What's my question?
>> They were natural to the branches were broken off. They were Were they broken off? According to Jeremiah 11 chapter, were the branches broken off?
>> Yes.
>> Jeremiah 11:16, the the Vulgate, I think it it said here, the Vulgate says broken off.
That's why he keeps saying V broken up because you read the King James and the King James uses the Vulgate because it says here in the CSB in most translations is branches are consumed.
That's what it usually says. But in the Vulgate, oh sorry, in the Maseretic text, I was wrong. The Maseretic text, which is the standard Hebrew text used by the Jews, it says we're broken. So he has set fire to it and its branches are broken. Even if we use that word broken in context, what's broken would be then the house of Israel and the house of Judah. Meaning all these tribes, the house of Israel, the northern kingdom, the house of Judah, the southern kingdom would be broken off because both kingdoms, both tribes were disobedient to God.
So even what he's saying, it doesn't make sense cuz both of them in context would have been broken off because both of them were disobedient to God. The disaster uh the house of Israel and the house of Judah brought on themselves by burning incense to be both of them were doing it. So both of them would have been broken off. So he keeps trying to use that to say that in Romans 11, the brokenoff branches refer to the scattered Israelites of the northern kingdom. But none of that fits in the text. That fits nowhere in the text because the northern and southern tribes would still be natural to Israel because they would still be nativeorn Israelites. So they would still be natural to Israel. The only ones who could be wild, could be unnatural to this olive tree, which is Israel, would be those of other nations who are not native Israelites, who would be considered Gentiles.
So he he just doesn't get it. He just don't get it. Let's continue.
>> And this but this I'm not see I'm not disagreeing that some that the Israelites were broken off. My here's where we disagree here. You're saying that the wild that the wild one, right, that's being grafted in. You're saying that they were part of the tree in the first place, but then got broken off and now they're being brought back in. It doesn't say that. It says that it says they were wild and they were never part of the tree in the first place.
>> That's not what they're saying. That's what you're li >> No, that's what that's what it says.
They weren't part of the tree in the first place. Look, if some of the branches were broken off, and you though a wild olive branch were grafted in among them, and have come to share in the riched root of the cultivated olive tree, do not boast that you are better than those branches. So, watch this. A wild olive branch were grafted in among them, have come to share in the rich root of the cultivative tree. See how it says have come like it's something that is happening now.
the northern kingdom. If you say the northern kingd or the scatter, let's say scattered Jews because he's talking about the sc they're the scattered Jews.
The scattered Jews at one point shared in the rich root of the cultivated tree.
But the text is saying that these wild olive branches, they are coming, meaning it's something that is happening. It hasn't happened before. It's happening now. They are coming in to share in the region they couldn't have shen it before. when they could not have been of the northern kingdom or scattered Jews because scattered Jews already had shared in the rich root of the cultivated olive tree.
The branches were broken off, referring to the Jews who rejected the Messiah.
The wild olive branches were grafted in.
It's contrasting those which were broken off to those who were grafted in. It would make no sense to say Jews were broken off and then Jews were grafted in when it's literally contrasting two different groups, the natural and the wild. As it says down here, the natural and the wild. So if it's contrasting the natural and the wild, then it's contrasting two groups.
They keep trying to say that's contrasting natural and natural. Paul is saying it's contrasting natural and wild. Who do you want to listen to? Paul or these heretics, these Hebrew Israelites who hate absolutely hate the Bible.
For if you were cut off from your native all wild olive tree and against nature, you see this, Paul makes it clear that against nature were grafted into a cultivative olive tree. You see this?
How much more the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree? Why would it make sense for Paul to go from the lesser to the greater if he is using if he's talking about the same group of people?
Cuz if he's saying Jews were were grafted in and how much more will Jews be grafted into their own tree? Well, guess what? These scattered Jews, it's their tree as well.
So then it wouldn't make no sense to use less to the greater. But what would make sense if Paul's using the lesser to the greater to make uh if Paul's utilizing the literary device known as the lesser to the greater to make a point that the Gentiles who were a secondary priority in salvation are given access to salvation then how much more will God give it to those who were his people originally the Jewish people the native Israelites that would make sense so it's comparing natural to wild because it's comparing Israelit to Gentile, non-Israelite.
But they're trying to say is comparing Israelite to Israelite. So I'm asking you, you who are watching, who will you believe?
Who will you believe? Will you believe the Apostle Paul or you believe his Hebrew Israelites? A lot of times heretics, they cannot agree with the Bible. They will they will flat out disagree with the Bible, go against the Bible because they can't agree with it.
So who will you believe? Someone is here on um you uh video ninja. Is this you, Stephen? For anyone that joins on video ninja, you guys just speak um just speak right away so I could just make sure some hear you guys. Stephen, is this you? I cannot hear you if you are speaking. I cannot hear.
I think you're muted or uh your sound's not on.
Whoever's on video ninja, I can I can see you. I cannot hear you. Hello.
Okay, I can see your camera's on but I cannot hear you. Could you mute and unmute?
You're just the camera. Yeah, you need to you need to connect your microphone, my friend. Here, your mic is off. Cannot hear you at all.
Okay. Unmute.
Hello. Hello.
Hello. Hello. Reconnect. Okay. Let's click reconnect mic. Let's do that.
Can I reconnect your mic?
Okay, I whoever this is on video ninja, just leave and rejoin real quick. I think you're just having some issues on your end with your your text. Just leave and rejoin. Um I'll just I'll just uh hang you up.
Yeah, just just leave and just rejoin.
It'll probably fix itself when you join back. Just say something so I can know that you're here. continue this >> lying about that's not that's not what it's saying.
>> It literally says because of their dis >> if it was about other nations if it was about other nations it wouldn't say and so all Israel shall be saved. It would say all nations shall be saved. This argument is that nations can be saved.
This is this is why I said the word gentile always has context. So it says and so all Israel shall be saved as it is written they shall come out of Zion the deliverer and shall turn ungodliness away from Jacob. It doesn't say turning ungodliness away from everyone.
>> Well but but that's in that verse.
You're still you're you're quote mining.
We're >> I'm not quote mining but I'm contextminded. But you're not. But you're not because you're going to another verse that has nothing.
>> Can I put this right here?
>> Are you there? Hello.
>> Can you hear me now?
>> Yes, sir. I can hear you. All right.
How's it going?
>> Hello.
>> Yes, sir. I could hear I can hear.
>> Excellent. Yes. There you go.
>> Yeah.
>> And I've got about 10 minutes left. I got to go to work. So, let's get this going.
>> What's up? Is this This is Stephen, right?
>> This is Stefan. Yes, sir.
>> Stephan. All right. All right. Stefan, so you were saying that I was wrong and that the Israel that the Gentiles mentioned in Romans 11, um, according to the the video I'm reviewing right now are the scattered Jews. Is that correct?
>> Yeah, you're wrong about everything, but I'm I'm not here to argue. Let's just hear what you got to say.
>> All right, no problem. So, you you can see the what I'm what I'm sharing on my screen, right?
You should be able to see my >> Yep. Okay. And I have some questions to ask you real quick before you even get to that point.
>> Go ahead. Ask ask me your questions right now. That's I said you have 10 minutes. So do do >> the first question. What is your name, by the way? Can I ask you that?
>> Glenn. My name is Glenn.
>> What's your name?
>> Yeah, my name is Glenn. You call me Glenn.
>> Say it one more time.
>> Glenn.
>> Glenn.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Okay, Glenn. So, a couple couple questions before you get there. Okay.
So, I'm just curious. Does the Most High change? Yes or no?
>> No. God cannot change.
>> So, God doesn't change, right?
[clears throat] >> God does not change. You're right.
>> Does Christ change?
>> No. Uh Jesus. So wait, let me question.
So you agree Christ doesn't change from the past to the future. He's always the same.
>> Yeah. The Bible says Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
>> Like his nature means, right?
>> Okay. So one more thing I'm just I just want to know this before you even start anything.
>> Adoption.
Okay.
>> Mhm.
>> What is the adoption?
The adoption.
>> What's an adoption? Yeah. Like if I adopt you into my family, what does that mean?
>> That means I'm adding you to my family.
>> Okay. So I'm adding you to my family, right?
>> Mhm.
>> Okay. So, so, uh, I'm the reason I messaged earlier is because you were saying that the other nation as in the other nation, Gentiles were grafted in >> or added to the family, correct?
>> Yeah. They were added to Israel.
>> So, they were adopted.
>> Yeah. That's what the Bible says. You You believe in the Bible, right?
>> So, so is Romans chapter 11 a continuation of Romans chapter 9? Sorry before I respond. You believe in the Bible, right? Like the the New Testament, Old Testament, you believe the Bible, brother in the Bible. I believe that bad boy. Trust me.
>> Beautiful. So then yeah, the the Bible says that they are grafted. They are adopted. We are we are sons of adoption.
>> Okay. Okay. So So in Romans chapter 9, >> Mhm.
>> who were who was the adoption given to?
>> Romans 9. Are you referring to a specific verse?
Verse four.
>> Yeah. It says here, "Dear the Israelites, and to them belong the adoption."
So it says here the Israelites.
>> Okay. So the adoption was given to the Israelites, right?
>> That's what the text says.
>> Okay. So in the chapter that you were referring to, Romans chapter 11, that's where I'm at. That's where I thought we were talking about. I think we're talking about that. Yeah. Romans 11.
Romans chapter 11.
>> That's the topic. Yeah. Romans 11. Go ahead.
>> Okay.
So we agree God doesn't change.
>> And in Romans chapter 11 when Paul is uh quoting from somewhere, right?
>> Uh if you're at the bottom of the chapter, he's he'd be quoting Isaiah. I think it was Isaiah 28 or somewhere like that.
>> No, no, no. That's not what I'm talking about.
>> Unless you're talking about somewhere else.
>> I'm I'm talking about when he's quoting Isaiah chapter 40. Which which verse of Romans 11 are you referring to?
Let me find Give me one second.
[snorts] >> For those watching on YouTube, hold >> for those watching on YouTube. I guess from one of my comments, he actually has >> he actually has um >> I got it.
>> Sorry, I'm just making a misstatement.
For those watching on YouTube, >> just pausing the debate review right now. Like one of the guests from YouTube who responded to the first debate review, he has joined the stream to just ask some questions. So, um that's what's going on right now. Go ahead. What were you saying?
>> So, I need you to answer this as soon as you as you if you can. Mhm.
>> So in in Romans 11 34 >> and you can read the KGB or whatever, but I want you to read what he's reading from out of the Septuagent >> out of the You can read [clears throat] Romans 11:34.
>> So you want me to read Isaiah 40 out of the septuition?
Is that what >> Well, not the whole chapter. just a favorite verse to read, but I want you just to just to read Romans 11:34 first and then we're going to jump out of Septuagent >> the I want the Britain Septuagent by the way [snorts] and I want you to read Isaiah 4013 through 16 and want you to explain that to me because we both agree God nor Christ changes.
>> All right. I I'll I'll do as you ask um and then after we do this I will question.
>> Yeah. Yeah. After we do this, I we will go back to Romans 11, actually deal with the text instead of >> I appreciate it. Yeah. Come on.
>> Go into this. Okay. Romans 11:34.
For who has known the mind of the Lord or who has been his counselor and who has ever given to God that he should be repaid?
And now you want me to read of you said.
>> Do you know the mind of the Lord?
>> Sorry. What? Do do you do you understand what that's talking about? Like who was given understanding?
>> It's talking referring to the Holy Spirit.
>> Who was God instructed?
>> Yeah, it's referring to the Holy Spirit.
>> Oh, the Holy Spirit. So, you know about the Holy Spirit, huh? Okay. Let's go to Isaiah chapter 40. Let's start at verse 13.
>> And you say you want me to read this from Brendan.
>> Let's read from the Septuagent, please.
>> Septu.
>> I want you to break this down for once you're done reading it.
>> All right. Beautiful. Let's do it.
Let's read it from the Septuagent for the sake of our guest.
One second. Let me pull this up.
>> That that's that's the point of this, right?
>> Let me pull this up. Renting Septuagent.
Isaiah chapter 40.
H one sec.
Isaiah 40 starting from verse 13. All right. The text says >> start from verse 13.
>> Who has known the mind of the Lord? Whom who has been his counselor to instruct him? Or of whom has he taken counsel and he has instructed him? Or who has taught him?
>> So Paul is reading from right here.
Interesting. All right, let's keep going.
>> Okay. Or who has taught him judgment? Or who has taught him the way of understanding since all the nations are counted as a drop from a bucket and as a turning of a balance and shall be counted as spittle? And liess is not enough to >> hold on hold before you continue.
>> Mhm.
>> Repeat that verse one more time and explain what he's talking about right there. all the nations being counted as what? Again, we hear that one more time.
But what is he talking about before you go to the next few verses? Explain that to me.
>> Cuz you have the Holy Spirit, right? I want to hear this.
>> Okay. Says, "All the nations are counted as a drop from the bucket and as the turning of a balance and shall be counted as spittle."
>> Shall be counted as spittle. As spit.
>> Okay.
>> So all the nations shall be counted as spit. This is what Paul This is what Paul is uh reciting right here. Keep going. One sec. We just pull it up real quick.
Verse 13, right? 15.
Yeah. All right.
Verse 16. And Libanus, which is Lebanon.
Okay. Lebanon is not enough to burn, nor all beasts enough for a whole burnt offering. And all the nations are as nothing and counted as nothing.
Wait. And shall be counted as nothing.
>> Brother, do you do you see the screen?
I'm reading what's on the I'm reading exactly what's on the screen. Like count well. Well, no. And counted as No, we read what what was verse what did verse 14 say?
>> Verse 14. Or with whom? This is Brentton Septusion is what you asked for. Or with whom has he taken counsel and he has instruct the oldest text we have to go by with no semantics. The oldest translation we have. No, no type of semantics going on here.
>> Technically, >> so all the nations shall be counted to nothing.
>> Technically, that would be the >> So, please explain to me. Hold on, bro.
So, please explain to me how the nations just automatically got countered to something because you're saying it did based on a theology you learned somewhere in time through Christianity.
Please explain to me how the most high God changed and when he changed when he doesn't change.
>> Yeah. Does it not say all the nations will be counter spit?
>> Can I answer you now? All right. Got you.
>> Yeah, go ahead. Answer me. I'm I'm I'm >> Yeah, I got you.
>> Yeah, I got you. So, the context of Isaiah 40, you're misusing it. When it's saying the nations are counted as why you brother, don't cut me off though. I I let you I let you I let you speak. I let you speak. I I went I did what you said. Let me speak now. Right. Yeah.
Yeah, you're misreading the context cuz since I have the Holy Spirit, I'm going to teach you what I'm going to teach.
>> Look, brother, don't lie. You just read the vers.
>> I got to mute you now, bro. I got to mute you. Why Why you cutting me off?
>> You're on my stage. Don't cut me off. I let you speak. You're up here. I respect that. Just don't cut me off. Let me speak. So, as I said, I'm going to teach you what the text says. You're misreading the verse because in the context of Isaiah 40, it's talking about how powerful and how wonderful and how amazing our Lord is compared to everyone else. Everything else, you look at verse 6. All humanity is grass. All it goodness is like the flow of the field.
This would include Israelites.
Israelites are humanity. So when it mentions the nations, it's mentioning that all nations, all peoples are nothing compared to our God. The context of humanity, how they are nothing compared to the most high Yahweh in heaven. So you're misreading it to say the nations are nothing and that God doesn't. That's not what the text is saying. Text is saying that compared to the greatness of our God, he is exalted.
No one understands him except his spirit who his spirit enlightens us about who he is. So he is exalted. He is above all things and nobody understands him. The nations are nothing. Lebanon cedars are not enough. The animals are not uh or his animals not enough. The nations are nothing compared to him.
Look this. That's why it says in verse 18, with whom will you compare God? You know what I mean? So it's talking about how God is exalted above the nations.
That's the context of Isaiah 40 that God is exalted above the nations. Even in the context of what you read in Isaiah 40, which Paul's quoting, it would include Israel because it says all man, all humanity is like grass because they fade away, which include Israelites, but God never fades away. So, it's contrasting God's greatness, God's exaltation, God's glory to Israel. You can respond. He left [laughter] Stefan. Come on, man. I thought we were I thought we were friends.
I thought we I thought we was doing good, man.
To y'all watching the the the Hebrew flight guest who was disagreeing with me on the first reaction, first debate review in the comments, he he just left after I just refuted um the nonsense he was trying to spew from the Septuagent.
Just like the Hebrews, Septuent is making the point that compared to all compared to everything created, God does not compare. To whom have you compared the Lord and with what likeness have you compared him? That's the whole point.
It's not saying that the nations compared to Israel are the nations compared to Israel are nothing. What it's saying is that all nations, Israel included, are nothing compared to God.
It's showing how powerful God is. And the whole context of this is that God will make a way for his people.
And he's showing that the nations can never do anything to stop what God does because God, his word will always stand and remain forever. So he's misreading the text trying to say that this shows that Israel is, you know, different or above or whatever nonsense he's trying to import because Paul quotes it. But Paul's quoting this to show that God is exalted above mankind, which would include Israelites.
[laughter] I can't believe it. Stefan, why'd you leave, bro?
Come on, bro. Stefan, why' you Why'd you leave, man? We were We were having a good We were having a good conversation, bro.
Come on, y'all.
Come on. Why? Come on, guys. Why Why did Stephan leave?
They do this daily. searching for everything, y'all.
What's on the screen? This is my my latest video.
Yeah. Like, come on, y'all. Why Why'd he leave, man?
We was having We was having a good conversation.
He just didn't He didn't want to let me speak. I don't know why these guys they just cut you off. They want to let you speak and then they run. Like, come on, Stephan. Why Why you got to run away, bro? They do this daily just searching for anything. You're 100% right, my brother.
They they just they just do it for for anything. They they don't know what they're talking about. You're 100% right, my brother. Just searching for anything. Come on, Stephan. Why'd you got to leave, bro? Why' you got to leave, bro?
Let's get back into it. Let's get Let's get into it. I want to I want to get through at least 20 minutes. Try to get 20 minutes and then we'll we'll we'll stop.
>> Of course. Of course. In talking about Jacob, we know that God's going to bring back Jacob. He has a remnant. We already know about that.
>> When you say so, I'll go direct.
>> Hold on. Let me end this. When we're talking about here, these the wild Yes.
the wild branches. Um, so but if some of the branches were broken, I'm talking about the natural branches, right? Uh, and you although a shoot, the Gentiles.
>> No, that's where we disagree.
>> To those watching, I hope you guys see how easily Logic can just read the text.
Like, I love this.
Sorry. [snorts] Like, you guys know Logic's shirt? I don't have one of his shirts, but [snorts] he was hoping he didn't know. When he heard you answer, he tries cutting [laughter] you off. And that's exactly how they do. They expect that. You just don't know how to say when they actually give a Bible an answer from the text contextually good ex Jesus. They run.
Demons run at the name of Jesus.
[snorts] And if you don't believe in a true God, sadly demons got a good place to live right there. You know what I mean? Heretics run at the name of Jesus.
They have the power of Jesus. But but if you guys hear what uh Cap said there, Cap said, "No, that's what we disagree."
Brother, what do you disagree about?
[laughter] That's what I got to ask. Like, brother, what do you disagree about, bro? Bro, what are you disagreeing about? That's what the text says, Cap. Come on, Cap.
That's what Cap Captain Tazarak.
Captain Taz, Captain Yak, Captain Ariak, man. Captain Yak, that's what the text says, brother. How you disagreeing with the man when he's just reading what the text says? All he said was that the native ones are Israelites, which is what the text says. And the non-native, the wild branches are Gentiles. Brother Cap, is that not what the text says? I am speaking to you Gentiles. Now, I'm speaking to you Gentiles.
So he's speaking to the Gentiles and he says if some of the branches were broken off and you Gentiles though a wild olive branch. So cap the Gentiles all the wild ones. And then the ones that are broken off would be guess what the Israelites.
So I don't know why Cap is saying that's where we disagree. Cap we disagreeing with the Apostle Paul like this what happened on Monday. Monday um a JW named Michael and some other Unitarians and one uh heretics they came up on the panel because the topic was Jesus is not the father and also when I do these live streams I have a secondary topic which says Jesus is God. So people disagree with that they can come and uh disprove that as well. [snorts] He came up and I just brought to Titus 2:14 where Paul calls Jesus his great God and savior. So Paul says Jesus is his great God and savior. So you JW, Michael, you, any JW apologist, any Unitarian, Paul says Jesus is his great God and savior, can you say Jesus is your great God and savior? They'll try to bring up Moses is called God and this and that all, but Moses is not your God. You you know what I mean? Moses not your God. In context of Exodus 7 and Exodus 4, Moses represents God.
But in Titus 2, Paul says that Jesus is his God. Paul didn't say Moses is his God because Moses is a prophet of God.
You know what I mean? But in Titus 2:13, Paul says as we await the appearing of the glory of our our meaning his and yours his the saints ours me and some and other group people included. So Paul and others Paul and the saints of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. So Paul's great God and Savior is Jesus Christ. So unitarian oneness Hebrew Israelite is Jesus your great God and savior. If you say no, if you say no, guess what? You disagree with Paul. And if you disagree with Paul, can you really call yourself a Christian? Can you really call yourself a Christian when you disagree with a apostle of Jesus Christ? You also disagree with Peter in uh second Peter 1 vers1. Can you really call yourself a Christian after doing some nonsense like that? Come on, guys.
We got to do better than this. We got to do better than this. So cat, why disagreeing on the man? That's what the Bible says. Come on C to you Gentiles.
That's literally how he starts off.
>> Look, look. He says in verse 13, now I'm speaking to >> when I'm saying no, no. When I'm saying you, I'm not saying that he's not talking to Gentiles. The you in verse 17.
>> So So they are he is speaking to Gentiles.
>> It's talking about the first fruit and the lump. So >> okay, he keeps mentioning this first fruit like it meant it means anything.
Now if the fruit fruits are holy, so is the whole batch. And if the whole root in the root is holy, so are the branches. If their rejection brings reconciliation, what will they acceptance mean? So the first fruits are the native Israelites.
So I don't know what he's talking about.
I Well, there's different ways you can actually take this. You could take it that the first fruits are the native Israelites, but I believe that uh commentators also take the first root to the patriarchs.
Let me see. This is a commentary I regularly reference if you guys watch me. It's called Benson's commentaries.
And we'll go to Romans 11 verse 16.
Romans 11:16.
For if the first fruit of them, the patriarchs be holy. He alludes to the weave sheath which was said to be holy because it was accepted of God and token of his giving the appointed weeks. And by first fruit, he either means the patriarchs or as many commentators understand him, the first converts to Christianity from among the Jews. So as you see commentators refer to first fruit roots as patriarchs which makes sense. So the first fruits refer to the patriarchs and the whole batch. And if the root is holy so are the branches. So if the root the lineage the the base of Israel Abraham the patriarchs those who were uh who spoke to God who God appeared to who were called by God Abraham Isaac Jacob if they're holy then the branches will be holy because they are supported by that root.
So he keeps mentioning verse 17 like it has any bearing to the argument. What is he talking about >> in verse 16 when it says for if the first fruit be holy the lump is also holy and if the root be holy so are the branches the root is the tree >> the branches is what's breaking off the tree >> and so now when it says and if some of the branches be broken off that same tree that's the root and then thou being a wow olive tree that thou is that root or that tree that is now wow because the branches is broken off the branch >> what [panting] what the branch wait let me let me hear that again just making sure >> the branches is what's breaking off the tree Okay.
>> And so now when it says and if some of the branches be broken off that same tree that's the root and then thou being a wow owl tree that thou is that root or that tree that is now wow because the branches is broken off the branches.
>> What [sighs] the branches broken off are part of the natural tree. The wild tree is a different tree altogether. The natural tree refers to Israel which has the first fruits being the patriarchs which has the lineage which has the adoption which has the covenants according to Romans 9. That's the natural olive tree that the wild branches which come from a wild unnatural olive tree are being grafted into. What is this guy saying?
This stuff is so unbiblical. It's crazy, bro.
Again, if any of you are Hebrew Israelites who disagree with what I'm saying here, that Gentiles, non-native Israelites can be saved equally as Israelites in the kingdom, then the link is right there. You guys can join the stage by all means and tell me why you disagree. Or if there are any Christians in here are watching and you guys just have questions about the text, questions about um things I said or whatnot, you guys can join too by all means.
Questions, join up. The link is posted.
Just click the link and join the stage and we could talk. Continue.
>> Are being put back on the same tree.
That's why it's called a wild olive tree.
>> No, you can't say that it's called a wild olive tree if it was part of the natural tree in the first place.
>> Exactly.
That will make no sense. Why would Paul be contrasting wild to natural if it's natural to natural that he's talking about?
It can only be a wild olive tree, olive branch from a wild olive tree. If this is a different tree, you're a native wild olive tree and against nature grafted into a cultivated olive tree. There's two different trees.
Israel is one tree. Israel is regarded as one tree that has branches.
Israel is regarded as one tree that has branches. The Gentile non-native Israelite nations are regarded as separate trees or a separate tree referring to non-native Israelites.
So, it wouldn't make sense. Logic is making so much sense. Like, what is this guy cap even talking about? You feel me?
[laughter] >> That don't even make sense.
>> It does make sense because look, >> yes, it does make sense. It doesn't make sense to say that native natural tree uh branches are called wild branches in the cont in context. What are we talking about cap? What are we talking about cap? You are making no sense right now.
That's what I'm saying. These guys hate the Bible. You guys have seen how cap has been cooked by the word and I and Nick just this week on the trinity and God Jesus being divine. Like these these guys do hate the Bible. They hate the Bible. See, Gino Jennings, all these uh false preachers and heretics who preach against the biblical truth of who God is, the teachings of God, and things like that, all these guys hate the they do not love the Bible. They put on a pretense that they love the Bible, but spread false doctrine, mislead people.
These individuals hate the Bible. Soon enough, we'll react to a Gino Jennings debate. react to one of Gino Jennings the base that he has with how whatever many whatever pastor or whatever individual on the trinity and we'll show how Gino Jennings hates the Bible. I already had a video upload on Monday where I showed how Gino Jennings hates the Bible. He hates it cuz the Bible refutes his false doctrine. When the Bible refutes your false doctrine, you will have to hate the Bible because if the word of God refutes you, you'll hate God. So Gino Jennings, he hates God's word because he hates the God of scripture who is the triune God. He loves his unitarian God who's not real, but he hates the trying God because he hates the Bible which supports the teaching that the true God, the one who created him is trying. And just like Gino hates it, these Hebrew Israelites hate it too. They hate the Bible. Here's the distinction. There's two things being called out here. You got the natural and you got the wild.
>> Yep. The two two identifies that we have in Romans 11. That's what you're saying.
No. Okay. Let me let me see. Now I'm speaking to you Gentiles. In as much then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous.
>> Okay. So version, what are you reading?
>> This is ESV.
>> Okay. I don't read the ESV. I'm going to read the KJV. It's more accurate. And I'm going to read the same verse that you read. It says, >> see the hidden assumptions that the King James is more accurate than the ESV should just be disregarded. You shouldn't you shouldn't allow these hidden assumptions.
What basis do you have to say that the KJV is more accurate? The KJV uses less manuscripts comes later. The KV less uses less manuscript. Sorry, uses later manuscripts.
So why should you have any reason to say that KJV is more accurate? No. This is the KJV. By the way, if you use the KJV, God bless you. But his hidden assumption to say KJV is better than the ESV. So we should just disregard ESV. What are you talking about, brother? Like what are you talking about? And the King James will probably say the same thing.
>> Now I speak for I speak to you Gentiles.
>> I speak to you Gentiles. Same thing.
>> And as much as I'm the apostle of the Gentiles, I'm magnify mine office if by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh and might save some of them. So now >> them which are my flesh provoke to emulation them which are my flesh. Well guess what cap. Who are they who's Paul flesh?
I too am an Israelite. So these guys just hate the Bible. Like I'm convinced these dudes just hate the Bible. They It's not that they are you know illiterate or dumb. These are smart individuals. Captain Tazarak is a smart person. He knows what he's talking about. He might not know everything, but he knows what he's talking about usually. Um, he can debate man. He could debate Muslims. He he knows what he's talking about. These people are not dumb. It's not like they're uneducated.
None. None like that. They just hate the Bible. They hate God's word. So, they can't admit when their doctrine directly contradicts what the Bible teaches. They can't admit when their doctrine goes directly against what the Bible teaches.
So he can't admit that because his false doctrine directly goes against the teaching of scripture which is what we see here. For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham from the tribe of Benjamin. So his the emulation of those who are my flesh. Emulation being jealousy will be the Israelites. He's trying to get them jealous because the gospel, the salvation has gone to the Gentiles, those who aren't Israelites. That's the whole point. It would make no sense for Israel to be jealous if Israel was given the gospel that was taken from them.
What would make Israelites jealous? What would make Israelites jealous is if the gospel salvation was taken hate hate the Bible. These BHIS have a disdain towards the Bible because the Bible refutes their false doctrine. It's clear as day. It refutes their false notions, their false doctrines, their false it refutes all their falsehoods.
They hate the Bible, brother. I I can't I can't make this up. They just hate the Bible. They They hate it. They They They don't They don't like it. They They can't get away from it. They can't get away from its teachings. They hate the Bible with a passion cuz it refuts their false teachings. As brother Heler says, let me let me point to it. Let me point to it this way. The BHIs aren't real Jews. They should be happy that salvation isn't only for true Israelites. Thank you. They should be happy cuz if it was up to them, they wouldn't be in heaven.
[laughter] They're the funniest people on earth cuz they just hate the Bible. When it be people that hate the Bible that much, it's just a they're just a laughingstock. Honestly, just a laughingstock. If you want to make these Gentiles be non Israelites, who's Paul's flesh in this verse?
>> Well, so here's my question. I answered your question. My question No, you didn't answer. You just gave me another question.
>> No. What question did I [laughter] answer? I'll deal with No, no, I don't want you to deal with it. Tell me what question.
>> So, the the question that you didn't deal with was him speaking to the Gentiles and the distinction he makes with the wild branch and the natural.
>> Okay. So, now I'm going to respond to that directly. I'm telling you the Gentiles is Israelites. So now I'm answer.
>> How does that make sense in context?
Ryan, I don't need to go over this again. Logic doesn't even logic does not need to go over this again. I don't need to go over this again. Interview. How does that make sense contextually?
How does it make sense to call natural branches in context wild branches? How does it make sense to say they come from a different tree when according to you the wild branches come from the same tree?
The text says that they come from a different tree. It literally says down here in context, for if you were cut off from your native wild olive tree and against nature, meaning it's un.
So it was unnatural for you to be grafted in.
That wouldn't make sense if it's natural Israelites just being joined back to Israel. What wouldn't make sense if it's non-Israelites being joined into Israel?
That would be against nature.
And also that means he the branches that stayed wouldn't be those who have faith in the Messiah, but would just be native Israelites who were part of the southern kingdom. That doesn't make sense because Paul makes it clear that the reason these wild branches are here is because of faith. Meaning those branches that weren't broken off would have to be on the natural tree because of faith as well, not because the native Israelites who are part of the sudden kingdom of Judah and Benjamin. So [snorts] what is he talking about? He he doesn't he has no idea he was on but he just hates the Bible. He he literally just hates the Bible. He hates the writings of Paul. He hates the gospel. He he hates the Jesus of the Bible. He hates the scriptures.
It's clear as day answering that question. And I'm telling you that in verse 16, the the lump and the holy and the root and the branches are all the same. And in 17 and if some of the branches are broken off is the same branches that was broken off according to Jeremiah 11th chapter. And the vow being a wild olive tree is the root of verse 16. So now I've clearly answered your question. So now I need my question answered. Who is the emulation of them which are his flesh? To Paul. So go to scripture.
>> So these are the Israelites. So now they're Israelites of his flesh, right?
>> Oh, that's good. Let's get it.
>> Who is the emulation?
Israelites. What?
[laughter] Yo, what is this guy talking about, bro?
What? Like what what is this guy talking about? Why why they why they hyping him?
Why they dancing? Why they hyping him up? Like like dude, is this not plain?
The whole point is he's trying to make Israel jealous because the gospel has gone to another nation. That destroys his position. Like, bro. Bro, what are you talking about, bro? If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
So he's trying to provoke the Israelites to jealousy because he wants them to be saved because they should realize that the gospel has gone. Salvation has gone.
The Messiah has gone to the Gentiles.
The kingdom has been given to the Gentiles because the Israelites have rejected him. That will provoke his people who are his flesh to emulation which means jealousy.
So I So like he's acting like this supports his point. This destroys his point because the whole point of what Paul says there is that the Israelites will be jealous because the Gentiles will have salvation. That's the whole point. The Israelites will be jealous because salvation has gone to the Gentiles. There's no reason for the Israelites to be jealous. If salvation stays within Israel, stays with Israelites. There would be reason for the Israelites to be jealous if salvation has gone to another nation. I don't know what this I really don't know what this dude's talking about.
>> That's good. So, if he's talking about the Israelites, that's the one he wants to make jealous, correct?
>> No, that's the one that he wants to save. That's why you can't. [laughter] Yo, this dude is so funny.
Yo, how many people are watching? I if if to anybody who's watching, could could one of y'all just put like a laughing emoji in the in the chat, bro?
Please don't tell me I'm like I'm like the only one who's like finding this humorous.
Like let me see real quick. Okay, it says there are six people watching. Tell any one of the six people any one of the six people watching. Can one of you guys just put like a laughing emoji in the chat? Like like I'mma start it off. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'mma put I'mma put a laughing emoji on the screen. I'm going just put it on my on my phone and y'all just put a laughing emoji in the chat because because Yes.
Thank you, Houston. Like this this is like y'all y'all like I I I don't know, bro. I I like I swear the I just generally swear these people hate the Bible. Like like like bro I I I don't know at this point. I I generally don't know. Thank you, Houston. To any other any other any other like the 65 people in the chat, please put a laughing emoji in the chat. This guy just said let's learn it back. Let's run it back. Let's run it back. Listen to this.
>> They're Israelites of his flesh, right?
>> Okay. of them which are his flesh is the root of verse 16. So now clearly answer your question. So now I need my question answered. Who is the emulation of them which are his flesh? The Paul is asking who is the emulation? Emulation means jealousy. So who is Paul trying to make jealous according to his flesh?
>> Logic answers the Israelites. The Jews.
He's right >> now. They're Israelites of his flesh.
Right. Oh that's good. That's good.
That's good. That's good. So if he's talking about the Israelites, that's the ones he wants to make jealous. Correct?
>> If he's talking about the Israelites, they are the ones he wants to make jealous for the purpose of salvation.
That's what logic asks him. He basically asks him exactly what he asked him.
Tazar Tazarak ask logic who are the people of Paul's flesh who he's trying to make jealous he's trying to who's the emilation of his flesh who are the emulation. Who is Paul trying to make jealous in order for in purpose of salvation. Who are they? Logic says the Jews. So logic asks him the same thing.
So Paul is trying to make the Jews jealous for sal in order for them to be saved. Right? Taric answers.
>> No.
[laughter] Oh my.
Yo, I see why Logic be having so much fun on his live streams with these guys, bro. Cuz this is ridiculous [laughter] how you just get so happy when the man answers you and gives you the answer you want, which is the biblical answer, which is they are the Jews, and then when the man literally repeats what you asked him and just asks if that's what the text is saying, you say no. Come on, bro.
Come on, bro.
What are we doing here, man? Like, what are we doing? Come on, Taz. Come on, Tesaria.
Come on, Tesaria. What we What are we doing?
What we doing, Tesaria? You You literally got repeated what you asked him and he still say no.
By the way, y'all, uh, today's a good day because my Knicks just went up two zero. If y'all could see, my Knicks beat the the Sixers. They went up two zero.
So, today's a good day.
Make sure I watch that game. Watch my goat Brunson Cook. But yeah, dude got repeated his own question and it says no. Like this is this is crazy. I you can't you you lit you legitimately can't make this up. Like there's no way you can make this up. [laughter] Like I I swear that's why I said these guys are not this not stupid.
They're not dumb. Nothing like that.
They just hate the Bible. Like like like they're not dumb, nothing like that.
They just hate God's word. That that's lit. They just hate God's word. They hate it.
>> That's the one that he wants to save.
That's why you can't read that raggedy ass ESV. Romans.
>> That's why you can't read that raggedy ass ESV. Brother, do you know how many manuscripts the King James used to translate it? Translate piece of the translation the the translators used.
You know how much manuscripts they had available back in 1600. Brother, ESV is in terms of like manuscripts behind it, academia behind it, levels ahead. I won't lie to you, bro.
again. God bless all who use the King James. King James is still a good translation. I have a King James in my drawer behind me. You can't see it. It's in the drawer, but I have a King James inside there. God bless all who use the King James. But brother, yeah, I don't you don't know what you're talking about, bro. And emulation means jealousy.
Like, like I I literally said the word emulation just now. I put on the screen.
I'll put it up again. May maybe so they see it. This is what the word This is what the word emulation literally means.
Emulation, ambition or endeavor to equal or excel, the use of a technique or using an emulator or ambitious or envious rivalry. Y'all see that ambitious envious rivalry.
So they are the emulation or he's trying to make them jealous. Why?
He wants to save them.
Jealous of what? salvation going to another group of people, the Gentiles.
Like, you can't make this up, bro.
It said this what Romans 11:14 says.
>> I'm using what you just read. You just read.
>> I didn't read jealousy, right? I said, "If I may jealousy, no. If I may by any means provoke their emulation to them that are my flesh >> and might and might save them."
>> Who are his flesh?
>> I'm glad you said that.
>> No. Just answer straight up. Who's the flesh?
>> Can I read the scripture?
>> It's It's right here.
>> Who are Israelites?
>> Thank you. So, his flesh are the Israelites. And who's he talking to?
>> He's talking to Israelites.
>> No, he's talking No. All right. Now it's my turn. It says that he's talking to Gentiles.
>> No, no. What I'm saying is he's talking to >> It's like this dude doesn't even know what emulation means. This is why it's like I I I again, respect to anyone who reads the King James. But I'm not someone who just says, you know, King James and that's all we need. No, it it's so important. I'm going to go full screen for this. If you can't understand what's in this book, if you can't understand a word that you're reading, then it's obviously always good to go and search it up. Use a concordance, use a dictionary, find what the word means. But if you're reading a translation of the Bible that consistently has words and phrases that you just don't understand, that we don't use today, and you can't understand what the text is saying, then please, please, please get an easier translation.
Please. That's why in my videos I use the CSB because more than anything I want people to be able to understand what the text is saying.
I just want you to be able to understand.
I can use the fanciest oldest words out there. If you don't understand what the Bible's saying, if you don't understand what the Bible's saying, then what use is it to you? As you guys see in the video, Tazarak doesn't understand the word he's using. He He doesn't even understand what he's using.
We provoke um the emulation uh of the people of my flesh. That's what the King James says, right? He doesn't even understand what that word means, how it's being used in the King James. He doesn't understand it. He He thinks it's a word describing them or something like in such a like weirdly. He doesn't understand what he's reading. Look, this is what he's reading. Again, I'll show it one more time. I may provoke to emulation those who are in my flesh. So the question is what is emulation?
Who's he speaking to? That's what logic asks. The Gentiles. He's trying to disagree with that. He say I'm now speaking to Gentiles. I've changed my subject of conversation. I was speaking to the Israelites. Now I'm speaking to the Gentiles. The subject has changed.
And to the Gentiles, I'm saying I want to provoke my people, those who are in my flesh, to emulation, meaning jealousy, so I might save them.
Does that make sense? He wants them to be jealous so that he might so that he can lead them to salvation.
So jealous of what? Salvation being given to another group. Like that's the only way contextually and logically they'd be made jealous. Like you can't get around it.
>> I'll be done with this so you can understand. When I say Israelites, the Gentiles in Romans the 11th chapter are Israelites. I don't want you to be confused. I know. I understand what you're saying.
>> Nonsense.
>> But here's where the the the conflation is. When you say that that the ones that he's uh, you know, bringing to emulation and wanting to save are of his flesh, which you said are the Israelites, that means he's talking to non-Israelites about his brothers.
>> Exactly.
Logic is a good debater, y'all. God logic is a good debater. And he's good because he just knows that he can just use the context. Like, I try to copy his style. As you guys probably can see, I I don't like to jump. Um I don't I don't like to just, you know, grab I don't like he he mentioned he does topical study. I don't really do that. Like if I'm debating with someone or if I'm thinking of someone about a text or about the Bible or something, I don't like to just jump chapter chapter verse to verse. I want to keep you to the context. Just break down what the context is telling us, what the text is saying. Logic did such a good job here of staying within the context. You know, Tazaria kept running to different passages. Jeremiah, Genesis 40, all sorts of passages trying to make his point and logic just have to stay in the context of what's being spoken of. Let Paul tell us what he's talking about.
Like, why am I letting Moses tell me what Paul's going to talk about?
Obviously, Paul can go can um build this point off of something that Moses has started. They're all in continuity. But what Paul is specifically speaking of, I am going to let Paul tell me. I'm not going to go to what Jeremiah is saying to tell me what Paul is saying. No, Paul is saying something specific. Jeremiah saying something specific and until we understand what each of them are saying in their own context and respects then we can join them together because they're in continuity in their message and we'll understand that based on what they're saying within their own respective context. So logic is letting Paul speak for himself. Tesaria is speaking for Paul. So who will you listen to? Will he listen to the man who's letting Paul speak for himself or will he listen to the man who's speaking for Paul when Paul never asks him to speak for him?
We don't want man's logic. We want it's God. You remember that it's God lo, right? Yall know you can get Logic's theme song on online, right?
You guys know you can get that that that tough theme song online, right?
Let let me pull it up for I don't know.
I don't know if you guys knew that. Like like you can get Logic's theme song online.
Let Let me pull up for you guys. Let Let me play it. If y'all forgot in case y'all in case you guys forgot.
Y'all know you can get Logic's theme song. We don't want man's logic. We want It's God. [music] It's God. It's God.
Not you. It's God. Not you. [music] It's God.
It's God.
>> Respect for Blaze. [music] It's God.
>> Whoever made this intro is so good.
>> Whoever made this intro is so good.
[music] is God [singing] is God.
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Got the word. I'm ready to get it out.
[music] Going to d it. Got to make it. Make it.
Ah, I can't rap. I need to write it down. Y'all chill. I [music] can't freestyle. Not Drake. Well, Drake had [singing] freestyle magic, but you guys know what I'm talking about. But regardless, regardless, [music] whoever made that theme song, amazing.
10 out of 10. But yeah, we don't want man's logic. Yo, we just want God's logic. God's not making it so easy from the text to understand what's being said. Taz got to, you know, speak for Paul or Paul. saying about the Israelites to the Gentiles that God in order to provoke them to jealousy or emulation so that some of them may be saved has grafted you non-ent non-Israelites into the tree so that they may be provoked.
>> And here's how that's a lie.
Here's how that's a lie. Because when it comes to save, he says, "And so all Israel shall be saved."
>> Keeps mentioning verse 26 like it helps his case. I don't think Logic directly address 26 specifically, but verse 26 is so easily addressed.
Like for example, words can't have to be understood in the context which they which they used. For example, I debated on Dorox Muslim on Monday, Monday afternoon and he uploaded that conversation to a second channel already, but I'm going to upload it on my channel on Friday. I added some commentary and stuff just so I could have tried my best to avoid a copyright strike. Um cuz he's shown to be doing that cuz he's weird. So um I'm going to upload on Friday 2 p.m. Watch out for that guys. And he he kept trying to force his own understanding of a specific word in Daniel 9:25. Cuz that's the prophecy I brought up to prove Christianity. But he would never let me tell him that to understand this word, Yath is used, which is restoration and rebuilding. And rebuilding can mean to reinstate or establish or set up according to how the the Hebrew term is used. So they they just never use the context to define what's being said.
Romans 11:26 in context is to be understood that all Israel is to be saved because both gentile who has been grafted in and native Israelite the remnant who has been received back to God because the Bible I I do as I said earlier in the first video the Bible I think is clear that there will be a remnant of the Jews who are brought back around the end times whatever the case might be but there is a remnant of the Jews who are brought back who are returned to the belief in their Messiah.
So the remnant of the Jews that saved, the Jews that have believed in the Messiah and the Gentiles, the non-native Israelites who believe in the Messiah will all be grafted into the one tree which is Israel. So the church, the Christian church, the messianic kingdom, the Christian church led by the Lord Jesus Christ, that counts as all Israel.
Because Israel is those who are born of God, not of flesh, not of blood, not of who your daddy is, but of who your heavenly father is, who your Lord and Savior is, who you believe in. That is what makes an Israelite. So all Israel refers to all Israel, all those who are Israel, the church, both Jew and Gentile, based on the context of Romans 11, which he doesn't understand the [laughter] I'm going right to the emulation. The emulation and save some of them of his flesh. They're rejecting the Israelites in Rome. The whole argument in Rome, Galatia, Capidoshia is that if they could be Israelites, but they a circumcised on the eighth day, they can't come back home. So when we go back, the reason why I reference Romans the 9th chapter, Romans the 9th chapter help you understand Romans the 11th chapter. Let's read it. Romans 9:4, who are Israelites to whom pertain Romans the 9th chapter help you understand Romans the 11th chapter. Let's read it.
Romans 94, who are Israelites to whom pertain the adoption? Now ain't no other nation can get adopted now because this just said Israel pertain the adoption, the glory. It it don't say them first.
It says who are Israelites to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the services of God, and the promises.
That's what the scripture say. Whose fathers Uh this is what the guy who joined up Stefan who ran away before I even responded. This is what he brought up.
Romans 9.
>> And of whom is concerned in the flesh Christ came. Now it's saying Christ came for the Israelites.
>> Can you finish that verse though?
>> I'm Which one? Verse five. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I'm No, I'm keep I'm going to read a couple more verses if you don't mind.
Who is over all? God blessed forever.
>> Who over who?
>> Who is over all?
>> Who?
>> God blessed forever.
>> Jesus. Jesus is over all. God bless forever.
>> It says for who the flesh Christ came who is all and God is blessed forever.
That ain't saying Jesus is God.
>> You got to just change the text. Uh God just come on trash because God overall.
>> No, it's not. God is over, but he ain't grace. So now you crazy as hell. So [laughter] now verse six says, "Neither neither as though the word of God take no effect, for they are not all Israel, which are of Israel." So being in Israel doesn't make you Israel, meaning living in the land. So now [laughter] let's keep Well, let's keep going to see if I'm right or you're right. Let's keep going. Verse seven says >> doesn't make you Israel. What we about to read eliminates?
[laughter] Yeah.
God bless you, Trent. Um, if you do ask, I believe everyone can be saved. I agree with God logic in this. I'm just reviewing the debate. So, that's why the topic is, can Gentiles be saved? I'm reviewing this conversation. Um, God says everyone who believes in Jesus Christ, our Lord and our Savior, um, salvation is to anyone who believes in the true God, the triune God, you know what I mean?
So, um, yeah.
Let's end off on this. They're reading Romans 9. Let's go there. Romans chapter nine.
They are Israelites.
And to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving, the law, the temple service and promises.
Paul is not saying that no other nation has can or has been adopted because even in the covenant as you read in Deuteronomy 29 or Jeremiah 8 or even Leviticus other passage of passages as well strangers and foreigners were part of the covenant. Strangers and foreigners were listed as part of Israel who the covenant was made with. So when it says the Israelites, it's just referring to that the native Israelites, those who are blood descendants of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, they were adopted by God. God chose them as his people.
But then Paul makes it clear in what Tazarad said that said not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.
Meaning the Israelites up here refers to flesh and blood. Yes. As he says in the context, right?
They are adopted. They are chosen by God. God chooses his people.
But if being an Israelite does not mean you're actually an Israelite, then being an Israelite is something deeper.
Meaning being an Israelite is in reference to who you serve. That's why not all who are descended from Israel, descended from Jacob are Israel.
Because being an Israelite is about who you serve, who you follow, who is your savior, not who your daddy is.
So Paul's making it clear that Israel, God gave them the promises. God gave the Jewish people the promises.
He gave it to them, their ancestors, their fathers.
But their rejection means they're not Israel. So those who were in line with God, who were following God, were part of the covenant, which included non-Israelites.
Does that make sense?
Does that make sense everyone?
Including nonIsraelites.
Going to cap it off there.
Houston, Matthew 3:9. And do not presume to say to yourselves, "We have Abraham as our father." For I tell you, God is able from God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.
He's 100% right. Jesus made it clear.
Your daddy, who your daddy is, it doesn't affect who your God is. You have to make that decision for yourself.
He came to his own. John 1:1-13. And his own received him not. But to those who did receive him, he gave them the right to be called children of God, who are not born of uh flesh, nor dwell a man, uh but of the will of God.
Born of God, really, as the text says.
It's not about who your daddy is. It's not about who your blood ancestry comes through. It's about who your savior is.
And if your savior and your lord, your redeemer, your god is Jesus Christ, you're part of Israel because Israel is made up of God's chosen people. Then the chosen ones are those who put their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life. God bless you all. Thank you for joining tonight. Hour and a half, hour and 40 minutes. Not too bad. I want to keep these under two hours. you know what I mean? So, God bless you all for joining. I thank you guys for being here. Hopefully you guys have a wonderful uh evening. Enjoy your night.
Sleep well, get good rest, and see you guys on Friday. Videos will come out tomorrow and video will come out Friday.
So, watch out for that. God bless y'all.
Stay blessed. Get good rest. All the best.
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