Stove Gods Cooks Former Manager Lord Jamar Says He Broke His Contract "It Isn't A Bad Contract!"

Added: 2026-05-17

[00:00:00]Now, I wanted to get to this cuz I was I was watching Drink Champs and I saw somebody there and I was shocked. You know what I'm talking about. Who? Stove guy.

[00:00:10]>> Yes.

[00:00:10]>> Mhm.

[00:00:11]>> There's other stove guys in the news about a certain situation. You were his I'm not making this up. You said you were his mentor kind of person bringing him up in the game. Um, >> yeah. Originally, >> originally. and now he seems to be saying he's in a really bad deal.

[00:00:31]Um, and then I was like, now my my researcher brain got activated because I was like, is Lord Jamar signed to the same label or is Brand New Nubian signed to the same label that he signed to?

[00:00:42]>> And I was like, "Oh my god, he is right.

[00:00:46]You're not Brand Newbian stuff is on Baby Grand."

[00:00:49]>> We did some stuff, but those are just oneoff stuffs.

[00:00:51]>> Okay.

[00:00:52]>> And um, [clears throat] yeah, we're not signed to Baby Grant. Um, >> how did he how did did you play a part in him ending up on Baby Grant?

[00:01:02]>> Yes, I did. Um, listen, man, I I didn't even really, you know, try to get too public with this.

[00:01:12]Um, I have knowledge of the deal. He's not in a bad deal.

[00:01:25]I mean, he could he's portraying it like that. No, he even said he's not in a bad deal. He said he's in a deal he don't want to be in.

[00:01:36]See, he just decided at some point that he didn't want to [ __ ] with me. He didn't want to [ __ ] with Chuck from Baby Grant.

[00:01:46]So, he just got on some boycott [ __ ] He could have been out of this deal if he would have just delivered his projects, but he took the money, took the advance, and didn't didn't deliver.

[00:02:06]>> Well, it's easy to make a label seem like the bad guy.

[00:02:09]>> Of course, it is.

[00:02:10]>> So, it's like the same >> and they don't rap and labels don't rap and labels don't do interviews like that. So all you're going to see is Yeah. is his side right now.

[00:02:24]>> Mhm.

[00:02:24]>> And when he's talking about my management and all that, see, it's like I ain't want to really, you know what I mean? But when he said that, he was talking about me. My management signed me to that deal as if I signed him to a bad deal. Like this dude didn't make a dollar in rap before he met me.

[00:02:47]I opened the doors for him with Buster Rhymes and Rock Marcy and you know helped him to change his name because he had a horrible name before.

[00:03:00]>> Aaron Cooks.

[00:03:01]>> No. Well, that's what it was changed to before his name was a train. [laughter] >> Was your name J Train at one point? His [laughter] his name was a train and I changed his name to Aaron Cooks because his first name is Aaron and then the cooks was cuz you know he cook up.

[00:03:25]>> Really talented really.

[00:03:26]>> And then yes now I can't take that away from him. I I know my [ __ ] I'm an ANR extraordinaire. If I if Lord Jamar says you dope, I don't care what it is. If I say you a dope podcaster, if I say you're a dope comedian, rapper, producer, I am a identifier of talent. I know it when I see it and I'm unable to identify it when it's not so polished either. Uh, and I've done this multiple times in my life. [snorts] So, yes, he's talented as [ __ ] Um, it's just I put a lot of time into him and he ended up shafting me in the end.

[00:04:07]You know what I mean? Like he got the deal, he got his [ __ ] advance and then didn't break me my [ __ ] He he he decided in his mind that me and Chuck must have some sort of thing going on together because I had a previous relationship with Chuck when all I tried to do was bring him to somebody that I knew had bred and a uh plat, you know, a a a system and an outlet to really get his [ __ ] out there the way it needed to be. Um, so I thought, you know, I was doing something positive for the brother.

[00:04:47]>> And, you know, after 5 years of running with me and staying at my crib and eating food in my crib and, you know what I mean, borrowing my car, all kind of [ __ ] and treating them like a, you know what I mean, like a little brother.

[00:05:08]It's like, and that's another thing. Old school, new school. These new school dudes have no loyalty.

[00:05:16]>> It's funny because I think because of maybe your commentary socially, nobody's going to believe you. Like, nobody's g people people be like, "Oh, you just hating on him. He's a new artist." But it's going to be I I definitely did see the way you talked about him in those pods. And it was like that was your man's and y'all [clears throat] did content together. Look at the I got him doing freestyles on Vlad TV.

[00:05:42]>> Okay.

[00:05:43]>> He got freestyles on there. He got freestyles on my show with Rod Digger and all this type of [ __ ] Like Like I was doing everything in my power to bring light to this kid and let people know >> Yeah.

[00:06:00]>> who the [ __ ] he was.

[00:06:02]I called some people just to ask about this and one thing that Do you know what Even is?

[00:06:07]>> Even >> it's a it's like a Patreon for labels like or for artists.

[00:06:12]>> Okay.

[00:06:13]>> You put your music up there and then you're able to release music direct to consumer, >> right?

[00:06:18]>> Apparently, allegedly >> he tried that and it got taken down >> cuz you can't do that when >> Exactly.

[00:06:26]>> Yeah.

[00:06:27]>> But see, you can't.

[00:06:29]And um apparently Chuck uh he was you know he has signed a lot of artists and he was like no that's not how music business works >> and that led to an issue and >> he had an album coming out with Swiss Beats >> that got taken down.

[00:06:45]>> But could you see how to the consumer that feels like somebody's hating? Like why can't the label just be all right we'll just take our portion after?

[00:06:53]Because I think sometimes labels do that. All right. Well, you going to eat, but we going to come for our money eventually >> because I believe it it feels like a situation where Chuck would be down to do like Chuck has got money from the features that he's done with Westside Gun and all of that, but for some I don't know what it is, but for some reason I feel like Cooks I don't know what Chuck said or did. I feel like he just don't want Chuck to get paid off of anything he does.

[00:07:27]Period. That's it. Like I don't think it's I think Chuck would be like, "Sure, if you give me my cut, y'all could put that out." But I think on the other side, he's like, "Nah, [ __ ] that. I don't want him to get nothing." And then Chuck is like, "Well, then [ __ ] that.

[00:07:44]It's not coming out." Because trust me, Chuck is a businessman. He's He's not unreasonable and he's just gonna He got enough money to sit on this [ __ ] That's what you don't understand. Like Chuck could just sit on this [ __ ] for indefinitely >> and you can just >> He was on the board of Rolling Stone or some [ __ ] I was like, damn, >> bro. At the end of the day, the fans are not going to wait for you forever. And you got to understand that. I'm surprised they've been waiting this long, but it's because he's been giving him little stuff. He's been doing little, you know, features and [ __ ] like that. Good. You know what I mean? Shout out to Westside Gun and all of that.

[00:08:24]When he got on the Clips uh album, boom, that made you Grammy nominated and all that type of [ __ ] Um but and that keeps your your [ __ ] out there. But reasonable drought, what was that? Five, six years ago. fire. Yeah.

[00:08:42]>> You know, but you're not gonna be able to live off of that forever.

[00:08:49]>> Well, I hope somebody blinks and the music comes out because this is his prime years and you know, I think both of I mean, maybe Chuck and Stove guy would look back with regret, but I don't know. Chuck got so much [ __ ] going on and maybe it won't matter. Um, but yeah, it sucks to see y'all fall out that way cuz I did definitely do all of the new school [ __ ] I looked who followed who.

[00:09:10]I was like, Lloyd Jamar follows Chuck but doesn't follow Stove and Stove doesn't follow him. So, I definitely did that. But, >> well, see what's crazy is one just one day [ __ ] man stove erased his whole [ __ ] Instagram and made it just look like it all started from reasonable drought. And I'm just like, wow.

[00:09:38]And then and then he had unfollowed everybody except for like two people or some [ __ ] It was like Westside Gun and I don't know somebody else type of [ __ ] And I was like, "Oh, see this that new school [ __ ] right here." You know what I mean? This that new school [ __ ] right here.

[00:09:55]>> Damn.

[00:09:55]>> And I was like, "It's all good." Cuz at the end of the day, I believe in karma.

[00:10:00]What you put out, you get back. And I know that my dealings with him was nothing but honorable with a open heart with just wanting to see the best for the young and I still want to see the best for him. But you know I'm not happy with how [ __ ] went down. But I'm still not going to like be like [ __ ] him. Even though he said he said in that interview some about uh management or some [ __ ] or or or is you too or some [ __ ] I'm like, "Oh, what?"

[00:10:37]So you so so you me like you know what I mean? Like >> Got it. Got it.

[00:10:44]>> He's not a tough guy. So it's like please don't don't even talk like that.

[00:10:48]Like you know what I mean? Like at the end of the day just do right. You know what I mean? Like if he would have just paid me what he was supposed to pay me and just give Chuck them albums, he could have been on to so many bigger and better things, but you know, trying to die on this hill. All right, go ahead.