While defining a specific historical identity is important for community building, this rigid focus on lineage risks creating unnecessary divisions within the broader Black diaspora. It often prioritizes cultural gatekeeping over the collective solidarity needed to tackle shared systemic challenges.
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So, on the ninth on the What the hell am I saying?
On the prompt.
The prompt says why I was supposed to say do, but I didn't put the do in there, but it's all right. Don't judge me.
But why so many people pretend to be ethnic black Americans?
I I hear a lot of cos playing out here going on.
And then the second half is still a play on Thank you, T. Thank you, Sean. Is a play on the last time you were live with each other.
For black American {slash} FBA. Okay?
But some people came up in here last night and was saying that they were ethnic black American when they really were not. And you could tell based on when they would say you black Americans and y'all. You know, they wouldn't speak in like first person or they wouldn't speak as if they were speaking about themselves. They separated themselves from it. That's one of the ways that you could tell because a lot of people are clearly running around pretending to be monoracial black. They're pretending to be ethnic black Americans and they have immigrant backgrounds.
And they they use the oh, well, black is my race and I am an American citizen now or I am an American green card holder or I got an American visa. I live here. I'm a resident of America.
So, therefore, I'm black Americans. And then like the Caribbeans will be like, well, the Caribbean is in the Americas.
So, technically, I'm black because of my race.
And then I'm American because I'm on the continent of America. You Y'all picking up what I'm putting down?
So, they always trying to cut corners when it comes to our lineage and our ethnic background so that they could make the shoe fit them as well.
I'm giving Cinderella ugly stepsisters.
I'm not calling anybody ugly. I'm just comparing to how they were trying to squeeze their foot into Cinderella's shoe.
That's why you like the term foundational black American. Okay.
Cuz people can't say that with a straight face knowing they ain't going well.
And that's why everybody crash out over it.
Because they can't call themselves foundational.
But we did have somebody up in here who call themselves a foundational African.
A foundational black Akata.
So, these people don't give a damn. They are going to find a way to include themselves and yet they'll get up here and say, "Oh, y'all just talk about us and talk about people all day and all night." And it's like, uh we finally entered the conversation. Y'all been talking about us and having us on y'all mind for a long time before we even knew y'all existed. Like, come on.
But, Hello Zani. Hello Uncle Paul.
It's a good delineating term. Okay.
Hello Eve.
How are you guys tonight?
How are you guys? Can you see the prompt?
Put a one in the chat if you can see the prompt.
I should have been asked y'all cuz right now I don't think I'm going to start over if you can't.
Put a one in the chat if you guys can see the prompt.
You can see it. Okay.
Okay, y'all can see. Okay, good.
So, once again, y'all know well, >> [snorts] >> y'all already know we have a the rules over here. It says 3 minutes to speak, no cussing, no over talking, and state your ethnicity. Just say it.
Of course, out of habit I'm going to say like, "Oh, what's your ethnicity?" cuz it's out of habit at this point. But, do not be like, "Oh, you know me. I've been already. I came up here 5 years ago.
We slept together last night. How could you not know?" Like, I don't want to hear it.
Y'all be getting offended. I do not intentionally be trying to offend y'all.
I speak to hundreds of people weekly.
I don't always remember. I'm constantly reading comments, emails, Zoom calls, talking to people on different platforms, DMs, a Discord. Like, it's a lot of ways that I communicate with different people. Sometimes I will remember your face and you know, if you've been up here consistently back-to-back and you didn't change your profile, then I will remember.
But, don't get offended.
Okay? It's not to offend you.
So, if everybody would just read the rules and say it, then it won't be awkward.
In char Why?
Why?
Tell them that it's human nature. Why?
Why? That song has been stuck in my head for a couple weeks now.
They wouldn't do me that way.
Thank you, Riot.
Also, it's been very messy in these TikTok streets.
>> [snorts] >> But, I stay out of that. I can't I can't I can't be a part of that because child, the things I experienced on YouTube, I do not want a repeat of that.
I do not want a repeat.
I'm not a part of none of that.
I'll be minding my business for the most part. I'm nosy, so I will look and see what the hell is going on. But other than that, I'm not in a space to be going back and forth with people. I'm so I'm so just not a part of that.
But it's very messy. I I you know, I don't I don't wish that it wasn't so much discord.
>> [snorts] >> But I understand that not everybody's going to always get along.
It's just, you know, it's a lot going on. I just scroll in my FYP.
Seeing people, you know, like talking.
I'm like, dang, everybody got it going on.
Um FBAs are easy to divide them. What you mean by that?
I think you were trying to come up here.
Oh, you could come you I'll I'm going to open a panel once we get to 5K likes.
What do you mean FBAs are easy to divide them? What does that mean?
Hey G.
GG.
Sometimes people just be saying stuff. I don't know what the hell they be talking about.
Mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm Oh my god.
Uh No.
Oh boy.
You're just doing another one our panels talking nonsense.
Our Lord, what he was saying.
It's easy to divide you guys than it is to unite you guys.
Who are you?
Who are you?
Stranger danger?
Hey.
Mean, mean.
It's easier to divide than to unite.
That's a lie.
We united right now and this is why y'all all crashing out.
We're very united.
I don't know who you are, where you come from, so I can't really I don't know who I don't know who you are.
>> [snorts] >> I absolutely don't know you, so I can't really um We are very much so united. That part. I know a lot of lies I care about new members.
New members?
What?
I don't understand what y'all talking about.
I'm I'm I don't What?
What?
Hey Chicago John.
It is what it is. It ain't that [singing] way.
>> [snorts] >> Okay.
I'm [snorts] about to start letting people up.
3 minutes to speak, no cussing, no over talking, and state your ethnicity.
That's the rules. If you If you talk to me crazy, I might talk crazy back.
I'm trying to police myself, but I'm you know, I'm me.
>> [snorts] >> Hello, Dr. Love.
Hello. Hello. How are you?
Hello. Can I have your ethnicity?
Uh from Uganda. I'm a African.
Are you in America?
Uh yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
Okay, go ahead.
>> [snorts] >> Uh yeah. Um why do many people pretend to be uh ethnic black Americans?
Uh like I said, it's it's very easy to you know, divide you guys than the way it is to unite you guys. And it's very easy to pretend to be black Americans, and you guys won't even know it. Uh I've seen a lot of Africans, you know, in the FBA uh cycle. And you guys don't even know it.
That's the That's the you know, messed up part um that you know, you can't really like you can't have the lineage. There's a lot of you know, Africans in that lineage. You guys talk Sometimes you guys are on the panels with them. Sometimes, you know, we we There's a we see but we can't tell you guys. You guys seem to be too smart and know a lot of things, so we just watch you.
That's why it's it's you know, people continue.
We can tell a lot of times. If we couldn't, then I wouldn't be able to make this prompts.
Yeah, but Amara Amara she was too beautiful to be FBA. Anybody knew it.
Anybody just would look at it and knew, you know, she wasn't FBA, but apparently you guys said, you know, And And see, we have we I told I you know, I said, "Hey, this is how it's it's obvious to me."
what to be a B A so you can literally tell So you can literally tell that you know she's definitely not B A but I don't even know what you talking about or why you coming over here mentioning people's names.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah cuz you don't want to hear it it's the truth. You guys are probably allergic to the truth. That's why you don't you always not So you're saying that you're saying that ethnic black Americans aren't attractive? Are you are you is it are you on something?
What do you mean?
Are you saying that black American women are not attractive is what I said is what I mean.
Yeah I said that Amara was you know she's too beautiful to be F B A that's what I said so I I don't know how you want to put it but you know it's like you can literally see it you know what I mean it's like but you guys were like you know and and I I you know told you guys and and I'm not about to sit here and compare and compare women's looks to other women. There is there is not there is not there's a lot of them but if if I if I tell you has to flew over and it seems like you're trying to get me to like say something negative about another woman I'm not going to do that.
I I'm not even nobody's even talking about that person or her background or whatever the [ __ ] they got going on. Who even mentioned that?
Why would you even bring that up?
Because you're saying You could say that it's diabolical because you're insinuating that black American women without an immigrant background aren't attractive and if you're saying that then you are smoking something.
Like you are I didn't You are on something heavy. If you are saying that black American women that are not continental African are not beautiful you are on something. I don't know what it is but you're it's psychosis and it's some type of substance abuse.
Why are you getting too emotional? We're just having a conversation.
>> Why why are you coming up here saying that that has absolutely nothing to do with the prompt? You getting up here saying you guys are easy to divide. What does that have to do with you people pretending to be us? That has nothing to do with you people pretending to be us.
But but but how can you interact with people that are not you? Like you you in your circle and your group. How can you interact? How how is that going to be that way?
>> end of the day at the end of the day it always comes out in the wash. We don't know anybody on this app. I have been on this app with people and I don't we don't know I'm I show myself. People get to see who I am. Other people are not showing themselves. You don't we don't know who the who is who.
I don't know who you are. You could be a little [ __ ] 4' 11" person.
>> NBA. You you you could be a 4' 11" man in a cave somewhere. I would have absolutely no idea. At the end of the day >> You wouldn't know it. Who At the end of Not not with that accent. At the end of the day it always comes At the end of the day it always comes out in the wash.
At the end of the day it is >> accent?
At the end of the day it always comes out in the wash. People cannot pump fake or lie about who they are for too long.
It is going to come out. That's just point blank period.
So I I don't know.
People like me when I come out and speak the truth and you start looking down on me because you just goes I'm saying the truth.
>> How did I look down on you?
What did I say that was looking down on you? Tell me right now. Go.
>> Because you said you you said that I'm using something heavy. So I'm and I'm like what did I do? I said you're using something heavy. What are you talking about?
Yeah, you say I'm probably like you know once I'm like you know dear I goes like you know is that what you were saying earlier because simply because I told you the truth.
>> You didn't tell You didn't tell me You literally got up here and you tried you you are you think that you are slick, you are being condescending and you are trying to manipulate the conversation in a way to make it seem like black American women are not attractive. And that is why I am two steps away from cussing you out because you're trying to be funny. I think that there's attractive >> being funny. You are at the end of the day you are black American women are attractive.
>> I talk. are some of the most beautiful women to walk the planet Earth. Every every ethnic culture, every race has very attractive women and every race and every ethnic culture also has women that are not so attractive. But to make that comparison and say, "Oh, you can tell that they're not this because they're too beautiful." You are trying to say >> FBA.
Exactly. Exactly. And you are literally smoking something if you think that >> See, again, you're looking down on me.
You I don't care. Oh, well, I'm going to look down on you. If that's what you call looking down on >> you go. If you are sitting up here and >> So, if I say if I told you the same thing that she was too beautiful to be FBA, then you get mad at He got me [ __ ] up.
He got me [ __ ] up. He's trying to make me cuss him out.
He's trying to make me cuss him out. I I'm really trying I don't want to Look.
At the end of the day who brought that person up? Y'all I told y'all everybody keep trying to drag me into beef. Did I not say that before I even started talking?
Did I not say that that they keep trying to drag Love Jones to beef with people and I'm not going. I don't have time for that. I have a bigger platform than a lot of people. I have more to lose. I'm on multiple platforms. I'm building things behind the scenes. I'm working on a lot of different things.
I do not have time for people to be coming up here name-dropping people and saying certain [ __ ] to try to get me to respond in a certain type of way.
I don't even like the name-dropping.
I don't like it because now if I respond, it's going to it's going to make it's going to be not savory.
Now, this is not to say that whoever he was talking about is not an attractive person because they are.
However, you're trying to make a comparison to make it seem like Black American women that are not immigrants are unattractive.
And that is diabolical.
That is absolutely diabolical. The women in my family are [ __ ] beautiful, flawless.
My friends, flawless. My cousins, flawless.
I am absolutely [ __ ] gorgeous. Like, what are we talking about? And I'm not an immigrant.
So, to get up here and make it seem like Black American women are not attractive is very disrespectful. And then you're name-dropping somebody trying to throw them in there so I can be like, "Oh, you get what I'm saying?" Like, to make it seem like I'm going against this person.
I don't give a [ __ ] about what these people got going on. I keep telling everybody I am not a part of that that [ __ ] I don't have nothing to do with that.
I can't I'm not I'm not here for none of it. You're beautiful, stunning. Thank you, guys.
But, that's like like what?
You might be FBA. What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
You might not be FBA. You see how this go? I don't have an immigrant background.
Period. I don't know why, what Hello, Caleb Thorn. Can I have your ethnicity and I'm going to go ahead and give you 3 minutes.
Hello?
How you doing?
>> Caleb? Oh, oh, okay. Yeah.
Yes. Sorry.
You know, I accidentally requested, but I'll still participate. Okay.
I'm sorry about that. Yes, I'm I'm foundational black American.
Okay, let me start you up. All right, go for it.
I probably won't need all three.
Let's see.
Um I think that the delineation movement has sort of created a How should I say? Like it's created a a a dividing line socially between people of our lineage and people in the diaspora that's not of our lineage.
Whereas it before we were very um we we push Pan-Africanism quite a bit.
And we were trying to sort of galvanize the entire diaspora onto um ourselves so that we could create like this sort of monolithic group of black people to to fight the dominant society, you know, for equal rights and for for us to be able to equally participate in the economy and be able to have the the same equitable outcomes that, you know, other other groups of people are able to get. Um but what I think what we've seen over the past, I don't know, let's say 15, well, we've seen it more than that, but I think um lately what we've been noticing is that when we when you look look at this from a historical lens, right?
and contemporary lens.
There's not much to gain from these like allegiances or these alliances with other groups in the diaspora, unfortunately.
And so we're just saying there's a there's a dividing line that we have to that we have to draw in the sand.
You know, we have to make sure that we're taking care of our people and seeing to our needs. So, I think that that's what got a lot of people sort of offended and shook is because this is not the status quo.
Right? And we do have a sort of cultural and moral capital that we can draw upon to get a lot of things done that other groups don't have and I think that that's uh I think that's something that um a lot of other groups are not um wanting to try to sort of like build for themselves because they're not able to um galvanize that's that same moral and social capital to get things done.
That's why it's always been beneficial for them to sort of like link up with us to get things to get things um uh done either politically or socially or even economically.
Okay.
Uh did you have anything else to add?
Nope. That's uh that's what I would say.
But wait, um Oh, why so much I think I I I answered the why so much smoke.
And uh pretend so I think I I think I answered both of your prompts.
Okay, cool. And guess what? You used all three minutes.
Okay, Lisa Jackson.
Lisa.
Okay, good evening. How are you? Hi, I'm good evening. Can I have the African Hello? Um Foundational Black American.
Okay, let me start your right now. All right, go ahead.
Why so many people pretend to be ethnic Black Americans?
Oh, okay. Well, we are the culture.
I mean, we did something spectacular, you know, during, you know what I'm saying, uh slavery, reconstruction.
Um we were the dancers, we were the gyrators, we were the disc jockeys, we used to do all that before, you know, all this stuff came into play like what you would call like, um standardized. No. No, we did all everything.
So, for me, like, okay, so what's the other one? Why so much smoke for Black American, FBA? Well, we are the trendsetters.
Mhm?
I mean, that's just what it is. We didn't ask to be, that's just who we are, the trendsetters.
That's why they don't like us. And that's fine, I don't care who don't like me. I really don't.
I'm still striving to do what the hell I got to do. But my fashion, when I turn the corner, how I look in a fedora, you know what I'm saying? I You know what I'm saying? I just look great.
Great.
Because, see, we created that.
We did it.
Fashion, Louis Vuitton never had nothing on us.
Uh Balenciaga, you neither. So, we we're the, you know what I'm saying? We're the everything.
So, I'm not mad at, you know what I'm saying, who's mad at us. We just got to keep going.
Because I don't care who's mad at us.
You see?
And once black people understand you don't have to care who's mad at you, we're still the trendsetters. See, those places used to be zoos. I don't know if you know Louis Vuitton, Gucci. Those used to be black zoos. Mhm.
Guess what? We came out there.
Even Timberland didn't even like us, right?
We put them on the map. So, at the end of the day, why should we care?
I don't care.
Why should we care if uh Shaksey man is doing what he doing. I don't care.
As I ran winning, they If they was winning since it started. So, what we care for? That's my thing.
At the end of the day, we got to get our sons and daughters out of the military.
You know what I'm saying? We're not fighting. No, sir. I fight days number.
So, so, what do we care for?
I don't care what they think about me or my fashion or my thoughts. I don't care. I mean, how does that sound? I don't care.
I'm not trying to change change my skin color to white.
They did a hell of a job on that for me.
So, what?
Do you think I care?
And here's It's not real. It's It's not real. What I mean, what part are we supposed to care about? I I just need to know.
Okay. Thank you for your input. You're welcome.
Uh American Wool Headed, can I have your ethnicity? Then I'm going to give you 3 minutes to answer the prompt.
Yeah, I'm a foundational black American, proud, born and raised.
True and authentic. I'm not one of the un- inauthentic, whatever that word is.
But yeah, um why so many people pretend to be ethnic Black American? Because Black Americans are diamonds in a box full of rocks.
There's nobody else quite like us. When we walk into a room, we summon attention without even trying to get it.
Right? Whenever we walk into a room, people be like, "Oh, she isn't it.
That's That's a Black American right there. Let's stop what we doing to pay attention to them."
Right?
And I think that that's what's important. We have an obligation to fulfill. We don't owe nobody anything.
We don't owe nobody nothing.
So, you see, a lot of us believe that when Dr. King and Sojourner Truth and Medgar Evers and Harriet Tubman and all these people unalived, they unalived with finished business. No, they they unalived with unfinished business that they left for us to continue on and complete.
It's like the late great Dr. John Henrik Clarke said, "What has God preserved in Black Americans that made us survive the most inhumane atrocities this world has ever seen?"
And he said that God has preserved us to give this world its last humanity.
And inasmuch as we are the only group on planet Earth that put all of our our ketchup, sweat, and tears into fighting white supremacy when other groups of people have turned their backs on us, we still get up and we fight.
We still get up and we continue to prosper. We still get up and continue to walk to the sycamore tree at the North Star like Harriet Tubman once did. Cuz you know why?
That fourth seal have been broken.
And black Americans are questioning, who is this dark-skinned person right here from foreign lands coming over here thinking that they can claim who we are.
We got to shut that down.
Yep. And that answers the second question, why do so many people have smoke for FBA? Because how dare you black Americans decide to break away from us. We Africans own you.
We We sold you. You see, if you want to use the Louis the the movie from Losing Isaiah analysis, we're the newborn baby that Africa had left by the dumpster.
And wrote us off like a bad check and never looked back.
And now that we got that basketball scholarship, you got the president of Ghana coming by and saying and going to our ancestral burial homelands, I mean burial grounds, trying to claim our check.
That's a problem.
Tell her to chill.
>> Again, we have to shut that down. We don't have to be concerned with everything in the world.
>> He going on a timer. You got to let him land.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I'll land right there.
Okay.
YTO, can I have your ethnicity and I'mma go ahead and give you 3 minutes to speak on the prompts. Uh my ethnicity, I'm a I'm a black American.
Okay, do you have an immigrant background? No, not at all. All right, go ahead.
All right. Why so many people pretend to be ethnic black Americans? Uh I'mma be honest with you. I don't know too much about that. I didn't know they pretend to be us, you know. Maybe cuz I don't talk to a lot of uh people in the Caribbean and Africa, so I don't know too much about that, so I can't really speak on it. Why so much smoke for FBA?
So, I have heard uh different people say that they know a lot of They have They have come to found They have come to find out that they They have come to find out that there are a lot of FBAs that are conventional and they don't like it.
What do you mean conventional? What do you mean by that?
Like um They have conventional [clears throat] beliefs like Republican beliefs, conventional beliefs.
>> You mean conservative?
>> I mean Yeah, that's what I mean, conservative beliefs.
So uh I don't know about I don't know. I guess that's what they don't like. That's what they told me they don't like, so.
So they don't like um people that some people that are conservative basically.
They don't like black conservatives.
From what I've heard, they said that Well, from what I understand, they feel like a lot of conservative views don't benefit black people, you know, um so when they see like what they say is blagger um black people that believe in MAGA, like MAGA, they don't like it. They feel like it's like I don't know. They feel like they they're going against the code.
So you think uh staying on the blue plantation is better than being on the red plantation? Do you think that the blue side is for black people?
Black Americans?
>> [laughter] >> One thing I I'm not going I'm not going to say the blue side is for black Americans, but I will say that uh some of the views that I see a lot of black people have, I feel like they're kind of destructive towards us. Like they don't like to speak on the ways that um we've been oppressed and how it's still affecting us today.
Um some of the conservatives I just don't I don't feel like they speak on the real problems that is really, you know, a detriment to us on an economical level today. And I feel like that's a big problem.
Wait, so you think black Americans don't speak on the plight of black people?
No, not all black Americans.
So, when I was saying >> over 50 million of us. You expect us all to be the same and doing the same thing?
Not necessarily that, but I for what I'm understanding, I'm speaking as somebody else's perspective, by the way. But share your perspective.
I I don't feel like I definitely don't feel like um some of the conservative topics that they bring up, like black people are just lazy, black people we're our only own detriment, some of the stuff that I I feel like they deem conservatives I don't feel like it's beneficial to us, those views.
As a whole.
Okay.
I don't I'm trying to speak as somebody else's perspective though. It's hard for me to do it. So, that's one of the reasons >> you about your perspective. So, my perspective of people Okay, I'm going to tell you about my perspective then. My perspective, right? If you look on an economic standpoint, um the top 10% of people are majority white people when it comes to wealth. The top 10% are majority white people. They have majority of the top assets, which are real estate, stock, and also big business.
Um they've had this for generations now.
They have a stronghold on the majority of these assets, and they've been able to compound wealth generation after generation after generation. And they have been prejudiced against black people for generation after generation after generation. So, when you know, conservatives believe that oh, we can just work hard and we can fix these problems. I don't believe that's true cuz in a sense factually is not true.
And for anyone saying that they feel like I'm not educated, [ __ ] you.
In the comments, by the way.
Okay, so I mean, this is not necessarily about politics, but if you feel like the blue cuz I you know, we got to say red and blue. I don't want to get like a restriction. Tik Tok is very, you know, tricky with the language. But if you feel like the blue party is more for you, I mean, initially black people were the red party. And then things switched and now the blue party is just predominantly doing things and focused on the immigrant class. It's in in you know, people that are from subcultures like the LGB and the list goes on, but I don't want to necessarily get into that, but I'm going to get to the next person and if someone wants to ask you a question after, then if you're still up here, I think you could you could stick around for that.
But Angel Fish, can I have your ethnicity? Then I'm going to give you three minutes to speak on the prompt.
Uh I'm I'm black. I'm just black. I don't know. But I just wanted to >> Are you Do you have an immigrant background?
Uh no.
>> [laughter] >> I don't think so, no. Where are your parents from?
What did you say? I said, where are your parents from?
My mom is from Texas and my dad's from Seattle.
Okay, let me search your account now. Go ahead.
Well, I just wanted to ask, what's the difference between a foundational black American and a black American? Isn't that the same thing or So, everyone doesn't consider themselves They don't It's just a label like some black Americans don't call themselves so on, but it literally means that you don't have an immigrant background. Just like a foundational black American means that you don't have an immigrant background. I explained early on that a lot of people with this excessive melanin that we all share, they will say that they are black American because racially black is negroid features and a certain phenotype. And then because they have an American green card, they have a visa, or they are now newly American citizens after maybe a generation, they do run around saying they're black Americans outside of recognizing also as an ethnic group. So, but black American and FBA is the same thing. It's just people have co-opted black Americans. So, you know.
>> Right.
Okay. Well, that's all I wanted to ask if I'm being honest. I I wasn't sure what that was and I keep hearing people say it.
You don't You never heard FBA?
No, I've heard it before, but I've never had anyone explain to me like what what it was. But not FBA.
Yeah, no. I feel like FBA is more like a new term.
It is.
Right. Yeah. Usually I'm just like, "Oh, I'm black American. Black American." I used to call myself African American and I got so much I got so much shade from the real Africans for that. So, yeah.
I'm just black American now.
But yeah, I didn't really want to say anything. I was just wondering.
Okay.
Okay, thank you. Bye.
Um Johnson & Johnson, can I have your ethnicity and then I'm going to go ahead and give you 3 minutes to speak on the prompt.
I'm a BOK male from the Midwest United States, straight FBA.
Okay, go ahead.
Uh why so many people pretend to be ethnic black Americans? Uh I think some people do it for like normalization cuz it's no different from what you saw with the Ellis Islander people back in the you know, they would come here and their name would be like uh Serbia back.
But then they change their name to Smith, their last name is Smith. Some of them would like dye their hair and stuff like that. They do it for like to kind of blend in, I guess.
But uh the smoke for FBAs, I feel like uh it's rooted in like jealousy. They try to say that it's something that we do to them, but I don't think it's necessarily that. I think they already have this animosity anyway, because I used I'm a I I was in the military for a long time.
And I I've been all over the world through the through the service. And uh when I was in Japan, some of the Africans over there would pretend to be FBAs. They would tell people they're from Chicago, they're from LA and stuff like that, but you could uh everybody all the FBAs knew they were lying, cuz you could hear their accent. But the Japanese people couldn't tell, because like the the they couldn't they couldn't tell the difference between the English dialects.
So all they would hear is English. They wouldn't hear like the the accents and stuff like that. But then you would have other Africans who would try to uh basically tell everybody to uh they would go to like the Japanese people speaking negatively of the of the FBAs over there. They would try to tell the girls not to date us and stuff like that.
And um yeah.
So you think it's rooted in jealousy?
Some of it is. Some of it is. A lot of it is.
Some of it is them trying to uh basically pander to the white Americans and like the you know, kind of the top group.
And uh yeah, that's that's pretty much my answer.
Um Okay.
>> Cuz a [clears throat] lot a lot of it really doesn't make sense the way that everybody comes at us and attacks our culture, but the cultures they come from are just as messed up if not worse. Mhm.
That part. You really see this you see this a lot too with uh people from south of the border.
Like uh how can you talk about it somebody being a criminal when like you're the plug, you know what I mean?
Uh hello.
And um Yeah. Oh, and I even see people on this on this app talking about BOK Americans, they were from uh at uh they were part of lineage just from south of the border. And they were like laughing saying that uh we're scared Trump's going to take away the 14th Amendment and ship us back to Africa. And in my mind I'm like there's no way that's going to happen. You're You're actually afraid of that. You're just saying that we are.
It's projection. Yeah, and they're not even trying to strip away the 14th Amendment, they're trying to uh reinterpret it. They're trying to have it reinterpreted.
Yeah, it's it's mind-boggling. I I didn't know that everyone thought we were immigrants until I started to hear what they were saying on this app. And I was like, "Y'all [ __ ] really think if we could have been deported en masse they wouldn't have already devised a plan to do so?"
A lot of them come here, too. They have this mindset. They have sort of this weird sort of they they they follow the narrative that we just been sitting here and everything comes from the mind and hands of the whitey man. And we've just been sitting here and it was built around us and they they don't acknowledge it. A lot of it a lot of it really comes from us being oppressed by them.
A lot of things in American culture is a result of us being oppressed by them.
And it it turned into like culture somehow. Mhm. That's true.
>> And uh yeah, and we were like we were like a big part of the development and the building of the nation. A lot of them I guess some of them generally honestly don't know that. And then when you say this to them and prove it to them, they still try to fight it because they don't want to believe that the BOK American is actually, you know, very much American. We are what they We embody what they want to be a part of.
Oh, so listen Sorry.
Yes, absolutely.
It pains them to to How can you not admit the truth? Yeah.
And uh there's there's like there's like there's like really radical people from south of the border. And they all they all see themselves as being like indigenous. So therefore, they believe that they're owed access to the United States. Because like their heritage is from like Guatemala or something like that. But they fail to realize that uh what they what they try to sort of take claim to ultimately is just a land mass.
What makes this place so where like where everybody wants to be, what draws people here, is what was established on top of the land mass.
And that ain't got nothing to do with it.
Exactly.
Yeah, and especially, you know, Mexican people they say, "Oh, this used to be Mexican territory and that was Mexican territory." It's like, "Well, Mexico got paid $15 million and it was sold." Like and at the end of the day the United States of America was established in 1776. That has nothing to do with what the hell ever was going on before then.
Yeah, and not nothing at all.
And then they'll actually try to talk about us, our plight, our story and tell us we got to get over the past and all that.
But like their whole thing is them not getting over the past.
Their their whole thing is dissonance. Their whole thing is them trying to fight for access to a land ma- or access to a country that they didn't even help try to establish. This is the only country on the planet where people will come from other places and look at a group of people who are foundational to its uh birth and try to like down You know what I'm saying? Talk down to us and downplay us and try to act like we're not like attached to this place at the hip.
This is the on- only like the only country where that happens.
That's far.
>> That's because of the uh the I I hope I ain't cut nobody off. No, go ahead.
>> Yeah. That's because uh a lot of immigrants that come here are um institutionalized. And a lot of this stuff comes from their own home their own areas, too. But they're institutionalized when they get here to align with whitey [ __ ] And a lot of whitey people with their low self-esteem, they really ingrained in other cultures to see the worst of us because believe it or not, black Americans have always been on the right side of history.
And that always Yes. And that And whitey people have always been jealous of that.
Because to be a black American inside this country is to essentially be that of perseverance.
Um What's that R word?
Uh Resilient.
>> Yeah, resilient. Yeah, resilient.
Um It's just a lot of things like like black Americans, we really didn't need a system of oppression in order to rise in this country.
But whereas whitey people, they've never lived a day inside this country um having to deal with competition. They don't know what real competition is like.
So, a lot of immigrants that come to this country try to mirror that.
And they think that by hating Like you can't say that word. By By having disdain towards us um will somehow gain favoritism to whiteyness. They have this whitey savior complex. So, they they think that all the inventions and the philosophies and the discoveries inside this country have came from that of whitey society. When really black people have contributed a lot to that.
I I What was I going to say?
Yeah, I I actually I've I've seen firsthand, too, like kind of how how how a lot of it plays out because there was a like I I grew up around a big Native American population. I was in a state that had a big Native American population. And out of all the atrocities committed against the Native Americans by the YT people, they still sort of had this reverence and like want to be around YT people and develop a disdain for BOK people. Mhm.
>> Right?
But the the the but the the red-skinned people, the native people, they didn't hear the conversations that the YT people would have about them when they were not around.
They they would think because the YT people would speak negatively about us when they're with them that they were like in with them, but they didn't know that the they would talk really bad about the native people, like really bad.
Yeah, I would say that that's one of the things that really aggravates a lot of other groups because specifically for our lineage, we don't have a um like this like mythic view of the dominant society.
Right? Like we don't have this uh high and lofty view of uh of the dominant society. Like we could take it or leave it.
That's because too, we don't look at America from the outside, like, "Oh, look at all this stuff that was built here. Look at all this. Look at all the innovation. Look at the culture, this, that, and the next." And we don't look at that and be like, "Oh, that's I guess that's the YT people that did that." We know that we had a hand in all that.
Well, also too, I think that we have we and this is my opinion.
I think we are the cultural um like we're we're the we have the most like superior culture amongst you know, most of the people groups if not all the people groups in the nation.
I think that that our our ability to adapt and to innovate within our within the constraints of the societal uh system that we've been a part of with you know, 244 years of slavery and other 101 years of reconstruction, black codes, Jim Crow, all of this stuff, right?
We've been able to formulate a cultural um sort of like a cultural genus that other groups can't really emulate. Or they can try to emulate, but they can't do themselves.
And um within that structure we don't really seek to um like make the dominant culture uh you know, so you know, something that we should aspire to whether we look we we rather than that we look to really figure out how to elevate ourselves on our own terms. And I think that that is something that the dominant society and and some of these other groups, they just they kind of don't like they kind of despise it.
A lot of people in whitey society dislike the fact that we don't assimilate. Like we're the only non-whitey culture inside this country that rejects full assimilation into whiteyness. And we are the only groups of people that tell whitey people the truth about themselves unapologetically.
Whereas these other groups of people inside this country who come here, most specifically the Asians, because if you ever walk past an Asian couple on the sidewalk, you see the condescending looks that they have about you in their faces and stuff like that.
Um a lot of them conform. Like Asian people inside this country really don't have a backbone. Yeah. They pay attention to what YT mommy and what YT daddy tells them, right? If YT daddy tells Asian people that it's the black people and their affirmative action that's stopping you from getting into these schools, Asian people going to be like, "Word? Let's do something about it." But as soon as those the affirmative action gets lifted, the same YT people who have convinced them that it was black people who were the problem, will then let them realize and know that it was legacy admissions that was stopping you from getting into these schools. But Asian people are not going to raise any awareness to this because again, Asian people are typically docile, much like the Hispanics, right? The Hispanics, they voted for Trump.
That's why they That's why they chose to make them the model minority in the first place. That's why they That's exactly why they did that. It's like whenever you uh when you see like a group of girls, right? Uh one girl, you know, she's pretty, she's attractive, but then there's another girl that she's kind of, you know, she might be on par with her if not more attractive, you know, she's going to distance herself and she's going to get the chick who's not attractive at all, be like, "Come on, girl." And she'll be her friend.
Right.
Right, they really don't have no legitimate reason for why they hate us. They just hate us because they see YT people doing it. It's more like monkey see, monkey do. Well, YT people, we do what we do, too. You know? And I will say this, I will say this, there was this Asian woman who was on the Grapevine podcast. And these were her words. She said, "Everybody knows how black people are treated inside this country.
And we pray to God that it don't happen to us next."
Wow.
>> Black people are the proverbial whipping board that YT people use as an example to remind all of these other docile garbage can cultures of what could happen to them if they was to step out of line.
And the thing is black people have been so used to it for so My bad. And the thing is black people have been so used to it for so long we've become immune to it. We don't care no more. You have black people talking about today, "Well, maybe segregation wasn't a bad thing."
That's how bad racism is today.
And segregation was bad.
Separate but equal wasn't.
Actually, I have a I have a I have a story about a sort of like a situation with a Asian people. Like I've always been into tuner cars, like tuning cars, you know, fixing them up, doing like engine work, making them faster and stuff like that.
And I actually had a conversation with a Asian dude who he tried to make it seem like the whole thing was like their culture, not realizing that actually tuning cars and stuff like that, that whole Fast and the Furious stuff, it's actually rooted in culture that comes from the American south. Like during prohibition, when alcohol was illegal, bootleggers, they were you know, they had to ship the product. The the bootleg alcohol. So, they found a way to make make cars faster so they could outrun the police. That's where that whole thing comes from. That's where NASCAR comes from. That's where the German tuner car culture comes from. That's where the Japanese tuner car culture comes from. And black people were heavily involved in that.
So, when he when he said that, I knew I knew the history. I side-eyed him. I'm like, this No, this is from here.
But, yeah.
Um I need to ask you a question. Why do you think segregation uh wasn't I'm I mean like wasn't bad?
You said why do I think segregation wasn't bad? Yeah, you said you said uh No, you said segregation was bad. My bad. Um the reason why I say segregation was was bad um in comparison to separate but equal is because segregation uh was Jim Crow.
And Jim Crow was a system of oppression that was used to make everything unequal.
Whereas a white tea person could have access to a FHA loan in which a black person was was was denied access to. Uh it was um it was uh sanctioned by the law of the land in which black people wasn't allowed the same amenities at which white tea people, you know, had access to.
>> that um when we were left out on devices, first of all, that's when we created most of the inventions and the innovations that are still running the world today?
But we also was building our own infrastructure. We were building out we had Freedman's Banks. You don't think that we would have been able to get to a place again to where we were able to sustain our own communities if we were still segregated versus now, we don't really own any infrastructure like that. Yes, we have we have um you know, businesses. Yes, we have farmland. Absolutely, we're doing the damn thing, but not the way that we could as far as full autonomy and ownership the way that it was when we were segregated because when we had our own schools, uh we were smarter.
We were like I said, more inventive.
We had our own hospitals, um movie theaters, god damn airplanes, hotels, bed and breakfast, B&Bs, restaurants, everything. And then but I do understand a reason another reason for integration was because they would not leave us alone. They kept like bombing and shooting everything, but I just think that if we were separate the way we were would have been thriving today and circulating in the dollar within and amongst ourselves, we would be unstoppable.
You mean it from like that perspective like how I think you're both I think you both have good points.
Yeah, I don't >> Jones is correct and I think you make a good point your point if I can steel man your position is that integration was good because it allowed us to the pro of integration rather was that it allowed us to fully participate in the um economy in the broader economy, right?
And so from that standpoint I agree. It was good for that reason. But it was bad with regard to our mindset and how we approached it.
Which is if we had approached it with the same you know, segregated or like segregationist mindset where okay, we now have access into the broader economy, but we're going to still take the resources from that and pull that in back into our own communities.
>> The way immigrants do it.
>> Yeah, like you know, so but we didn't we didn't keep that mindset. If we had kept that that mindset, we would be you know, well like like Love Jones was talking about we lack a like a cohesive infrastructure that we can like depend and rely upon um where we can bolster each other and and help each other in the same way that the dominant society can choose or not choose to um so I think that if we had kept the that same mindset, then you know, even with integration that would have been that probably would have been the best of both worlds, but you know, it didn't happen that way.
Well, what the point I was trying to make was it was the uh the negative ramifications of segregate segregation was um what allowed these people to be able to abuse us.
Um whereas I do agree with you um in segregation we did have our own infrastructure. We own 16 million acres of land and whatnot. I don't support integration at all. I believe that black Americans should separate.
Right? Um I believe that we should have separate but equal. Um and even what Dr. Claude Anderson was talking about, we should have self-aggregated instead of integrated.
Because when you self-aggregate, you prioritize your group. Right? And you don't integrate or assimilate into an integrated society that sucks and takes away resources from you. So when I say segregation was bad, I was talking about all the bad things that came with it.
Right? That resulted in, you know, the Emmett Tills, that resulted in the um What's that woman's name? They used her cells.
Henrietta Lacks.
Henrietta Lacks and stuff like that.
Because between the year 1910 and the year 1997, the United States government seized 90% of the 16 million acres of land that we owned inside this country.
You know? So there was a lot of things that happened in segregation that I didn't agree with. And I was talking about the bad aspects.
But do I want to integrate with whitey people? No. I'm tired of them. Like I don't want to be It's I feel like You know how when you claustrophobic?
That's what it feels like. Like it it it Being integrated it feels like you know, you have somebody constantly staring down your neck.
Well, I think that it's possible for us to do what our predecessors did, but it's just that people are not um I mean we have to come together and like make that happen. Like you have to see people actually coming together with purpose to to to build out some infrastructure.
Now, I do I think that black like what Love Jones was saying, black people you know, in like these like small enclaves, they're doing great stuff in this country. You know what I mean?
But if we want like a uh we have to we have to be purposeful with like a systematized effort to do something like a Black Wall Street again.
You know, or Wilmington.
You know, or something like that. Like we we all have to it'd have to be purposeful, very intentional.
Yeah, it's hard to believe that in 2026 we are worse off than what we were doing segregation. Like doing like those times, like like Love Jones was saying, we had our own movie theaters, we had the Howard Theater, we had Howard University.
We had our own hotel. We had we our own hotels, Dr. Claude Anderson, his family owned 500 as well used to service black people from New Orleans all the way up to Memphis.
We had our own insurance companies, we had everything 60 years ago that we don't have 60 years later.
Wait but hold up, we got a question.
[clears throat] Hold on. Morpheus, what's up?
Hey, what's going on Love Jones?
>> Hey, everything's good. Go ahead.
Yeah, I just came in to the because I talked about this segregation thing and I see like the other guy said it earlier, it is good and bad. So, you know, yeah, we did work together more, but let's let's be honest, we were forced to. And the reason why you know that's true cuz as soon as integration happened, you saw that that went downside. You know, you want to you know, the the whole concept of the white man's ice is colder. You know what I mean? And we did need to be integrated because we were paying taxes still.
[clears throat] So, we were paying taxes for their for for their luxury. You know, a lot of people don't know, back in the day they had free swimming pools, but as soon as integration happened, they they covered them up with cement. You know, our our our taxes paid for that. So, we were paying taxes while they were living the high life. You know what I mean? We all know We all know about the GI Bill. We paying taxes on that, too. And we were paying with our lives.
You know what I'm saying? So, you know, in a spiritual way I see that integration had to happen cuz now we we at the point our generation is like, yeah, this is not it.
You know, we we need to be together. You know what I mean? Basically how to low-key how the immigrants do. But, there are black businesses around. What I found as I gotten older is that a lot of black business try to hide that they're black business cuz what they do when they find out you're a black business, they start sending code enforcement to you. Like, think about how many Indian Chinese stores that you know that they're not that clean, but let a black business >> Let a soul food shops pop up. You talk to some of your soul food restaurant and some of your the black owned Ask them how many times code enforcement harassed them.
You know what I'm saying? So, some sometimes black people have to go undercover cuz you know, we do got money, we do have our own places, but some of them It's getting so bad that sometimes they'll put a white person up front to look like the owner.
You know what I'm saying? Some places, you know? We all know about the whole thing when you try to sell your house, if you sell your house and this you have your pictures of your family, the appraiser would give you less. You have to get a white friend or take your pictures off to get the correct value for your own house.
You know what I'm saying? Mhm. So, I I also wanted to say cuz I I remember you guys were talking about the other different nationalities here. You know, we got to remember one of the reason why they they do hate us cuz it you know, it's just like coons like for for our own lineage.
You know what I'm saying? They understand to get We call it biscuits just for like, you know, selling us out.
So, all of them understand that, too.
They get their little agusi or and and spaladas, like whatever you want to call it, right? But also, you got to remember, why do people come to America?
And I'm talking about everybody, whether they're melanated, Hispanic, or whatever. They come to America to to get rid of their identity. They're they're they're fleeing from something. You understand?
They they they don't want to be um um Irish no more or Mexican no more. Did Did you know they try to reinvent themselves here? And when we stand on business, it it it it destroys that illusion. That's why they like the concept, "Oh, immigrants built this country." Because it makes them feel like, "Well, I I I'm a part of this, too." You know, they call it the American dream.
And we know it as the American nightmare. You know what I mean? So, us being here represent that. And then, of course, when they come here, they're like, "Oh, yeah, these these black people, they're nothing." Right?
Everyone sees us as nothing. But at the same time, we're the greatest people here, whether it comes into sports, music, or influence. You know, people want to imitate us. You know, they try to talk nonsense, whether they're melanated or not, but they're copying us. I've seen some whites whitey supremacists talk crap while they're using uh uh Ebonics at the same time. You know what I'm saying? So, like, how you hate us so much, but you're using Ebonics to insult us?
You know what I mean? It's It's a weird thing.
>> whitey or anything more.
Oh, sorry. My fault. My fault.
You know what I mean? Okay. It's just It's It's so sensitive. It's annoying.
You know You know what? I've been meaning to say this to the creators. It It's funny how we have to be so careful what we say on TikTok, but the other people can say the N-word and not get uh banned or nothing. Ain't that interesting?
I don't know.
I say it all the time.
And and but if you say, you know, whitey the correct way, your stream get messed up.
Yep. You know what I'm saying?
>> It's crazy. I say white a lot, you know, because I I just be like, what's going to happen? But then, it seems like they'll just get you for something else.
Do you know what I mean? Like, they'll be like, oh, harassment and bullying. And it's like, who the hell are we harassing? Like, it's just so odd the way this is framed.
We we also need to have our own spaces. I'm trying to not say, you know, our own joint spaces.
>> too. They're going to follow us there, too. I I remember on back in back in the day, I was I signed up for Black People Meet. That was white people and black people meet.
Yep, I was about to say the same thing.
>> Black Planet was owned by a white person, right? Black Planet?
No, it was a partnership. It was a black person and It was a partnership. They had a white person and a black person um that ran it. But there was a I remember Black People My Mom was on that, but there was a lot of white people trying to get with black people back then. I remember that.
They They always going to follow wherever we go.
But But you know why they do that?
I remember Urban Chat, too.
What What the reason why they What's your What's your reasoning?
Cuz we're the source. Like, they don't have creativity. You know what I'm saying? It's If you're a white If you're a white person, you know, I've heard white people person say this to me. If you want to know what's cool, you follow the black American.
You know what I'm saying? And you cuz you you don't really capital capitalize on our stuff or copyright our stuff, so they look at us for trends. You know that they follow Black Twitter to see what's popping before it actually pops.
Hell yeah, they study us over here, too.
They be right up in these lives. They This actually professions where you get hired to study black American people.
Yeah, cuz we're the wave.
Yeah, I think that's why I say that we we are the cultural capital of like the the country.
But you know why we're the cult Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.
No, no, no. No, going to I was I was just agreeing with you, but you know, I cuz I heard other people say the same thing you just said, and then I thought about it. Like, let's keep it honest.
We're the oldest American ethnic group here. Like, when you think when you really think about it, even the whitey people, they're not that old. Most of them are Ellis Island. The whitey people that were here when The whitey people that were here when we were here, what they call Anglos, most of them are dead.
Did you know that?
>> Who's saying unalived? Oh, sorry, sorry.
Unalived, I'm sorry.
>> unalived to you. Yeah. Yeah, most of them are gone, and that that ethnic group is kind of almost extinct. Most of You know what I'm saying? ourselves.
Like, most of the the uh old British style type of whitey people inside this country are mainly in the South now.
Well, uh they're they're in the north.
They're still They're like in places like Maine. That's where they at.
Like, if you go to Maine, cuz that cuz those people were very rich. They had a lot of money. So, they they're there.
That's why you ever That's why you ever notice like British people they like Maine, Boston, cuz like they still have that British kind of culture still there. Most of the South was They had a lot of Irish people. A lot of A lot of the whitey people in the South are Irish descent.
Especially the Appalachians.
>> [clears throat] >> Yeah, I think that um I think that uh I know that we you know, when we were Something just came to my mind. Um when we were talking about segregation versus integration.
We we integrated, but we never assimilated.
Right.
And I think that that's the uh like, that's the issue. Right? Because like, what that would have meant if we had assimilated was it would have It would have essentially like erased our unique like our forged The identity that we forged through the history that we have with this country and everything that we did to build it. Um we have a very unique identity and role here on this land.
And we're not willing to give that up.
And if we're not willing to give up our cultural identity, it's it's causing a lot of friction with the dominant society. I think um But you think it's just a dominant society that is causing friction with?
Because honestly, I see friction with everybody globally because we aren't willing to give up or allowing for ethnic erasure to to just wipe us out.
Everybody has a problem with that.
That's what Dr. Claude Anderson said.
>> know what? I I agree with that. I've seen this at work. So, like I work in white-collar America.
And uh I will say we are the only people in a [clears throat] practical sense. I'm one guy, right?
But in a practical sense, I I I just don't see us in in those offices like kowtowing and kissing up to folks.
I see that with every other people group.
You know, all all the other all the other groups.
I I'll have to push back just a tiny bit. I think at one point in our in our history, we did try to integrate. Like if you go back to the early 1900s, right? You see the black men then they had a comb care. They were imitating how white dudes have their hair. You know what I'm saying? But we all know about how no matter what they did, they could never integrate. They were still, you know, unaliving um black men. Until like you get towards the '60s, that's when you had I'm black and I'm proud. And we just like, you know what?
You know, trying not curse, but you know, you just like, you know what?
We're going to be black. Nothing we can do is ever going to be acceptable cuz we understand that lesson, right? And you know, I did a video about this topic, right? Cuz I look at it like it's kind of like a pyramid thing, right? So white people at the top, um non-blacks in the middle, and black people at the bottom, right? I'm talking about When I say black people, I'm talking about all black people, no matter where you are, right? And what's different about black Americans that we escaped that pyramid of black where we where I say we're at I call it the cool.
The reason why I call it the cool is cuz think about it, when everybody wants to be cool and look hip, where do they go?
They come to They come to black America.
Look at Tyler, she comes to black America. Like if you look at her, she said she wasn't black anyway, so Yeah, but she tries to be in our spaces is what I'm saying.
>> back on that though when you said it's uh white people on top, non-black people in in I'm no non-black people in the middle. I agree with that I agree with those two, but when you say all black people, I have to push back on that because Harvard and other I mean not Harvard, Harvard did a study or something like that.
And what Harvard has found [clears throat] out that a lot of these high degree and high earning jobs would rather hire Nigerians and other immigrants and other African and Caribbean immigrants over black Americans.
Okay, there's a certain there's a certain But but when you were present Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm sorry. Um go ahead and land American and then um call me um you could go right after I may get your ethnicity and then start your timer. Go ahead and then we'll open the panel back up. Land Land your Land your point, American. I'm not I think the other dude was talking. I had interrupted. My bad.
Okay, so let's get to Call me TKO. Can I have your ethnicity and I'm going to give you 3 minutes to speak? I'm black as hell and I only need maybe 30 seconds to make my point.
All right, go ahead.
So Thanks, American.
Thanks, black eating. We don't We don't hear our speaking? No, no, no. I just hear other noises. I don't know. I'm probably on the >> Oh, that's because they're um the gift goals are being met. So, that's why it's doing that. Oh, okay. I didn't know what was going on.
>> [laughter] >> My bad. No, I was down here fighting for my life because I hear good things and then it caveats into something else.
I'm like, "Well, damn. Y'all don't remember exactly what they did."
Like we're supposed to be a little mad enough and listen, I don't care about the back and forth. Somebody can say whatever they want to say if they hear something that's a lie.
It's too much It's too much One thing I've learned about all races and ethnicities besides us, we normally mind our [ __ ] business. Like, yeah, we going to go to work. Yeah, we going to go ahead and just pay attention to do what what But one thing I've learned is that yeah, when we hear some straight-up BS, we going to pull together and I've been seeing a whole lot of lines like this and I like it.
Because yeah, I think we are not our ancestors, but we will protect their values. We will protect what they did.
I'm my ancestors personified. I'm the wildest dreams on steroids.
>> Well, there you There you go. There you go. We a little different now. We a little different.
But when I say we're not our ancestors, meaning we're not about to be put in another place. We Okay, yeah, you're right. It's a personification. We learned.
So, anybody that want to perpetuate what everybody else is still doing, no, don't do that. No, you don't have to.
Okay.
Was it more than 30 seconds? How long was that?
Uh took 2 minutes. Over two minutes.
Damn, you know what?
Everybody always say I don't need three minutes and then they always, you know, I'll just be we said it anyways. But did anybody on the um panel want to respond or ask a question about what he just said?
Real quick, real quick.
Uh, so with the I I ancestors, you know, I I kind of don't like when people say we're we're not our ancestors cuz we are and what I mean by that is that you got to remember they're teach they're teaching the history. When I I didn't know until I took did my own studies in the 60s and stuff like they make it seem when you look on TV that they were all docile and just whitey people just one day said, "Okay, you guys can have civil rights." That's not how it happened.
First of all, the civil rights bill passed after Martin Luther King died.
And one of the reasons why because when he died, I mean, I'm sorry, when he was on alive, uh, black people all over the United States turned up. Okay, they call it I think they call it they call it the street of rage. Like what you saw at BLM and uh, what's his name? George Floyd, it was like that on steroids all over the United States. You know what I mean? So they they they was with it. It's just they don't it doesn't get advertised.
It's kind of like how you'll never see a movie about uh, the Haitian Revolution because they don't want that idea of turning up in in the black mind.
So but if you look for yourself, you'll see that we always been on top of that.
Our ancestors always been on that.
Well, I mean, yeah, that's I'm just saying we're not because what we're not about to do because somebody in the comments said that they're about the She said she I think she meant to say ratify the 14th Amendment.
But she said reconstruct. You know, you can never reconstruct something without first codifying it first. So maybe that's what she meant because yeah, you can do that when you think about the words.
But what you have to do is you have to ratify it.
You can't recodify you can't recodify anything besides ratifying it. You have to get rid of it get rid of it first and then bring something new back into law.
Yeah, I will say uh in my opinion um to respond >> do but what they did with that what they did with this the gerrymandering Well, if you get so many people into office that is against what it's saying, then guess what? Now you have more people in power that can make that two-thirds work.
Well, you know, that's that's that's a lot of desperation because their numbers are dropping. They're not having kids like that. Well, I mean they're not having kids, but then you also let me just shut up.
Yeah. No, shut up. Shut up. It's an open debate where you can express yourself.
Just no inflammatory or derogatory language.
Yeah, I was I was responding to what he was saying when he was saying that we are not our ancestors.
Uh I will agree we are not our ancestors. We are descendants of our ancestors.
>> There you go. And the reason why I say that is because the things that we are doing today are just simply not on the same level that our ancestors were doing back then.
These people were carving out carving out land and making city blocks out of them. These people was building cars like the Patterson Car Company which he eventually started doing buses. There you go.
>> These people were literally writing mathematical equations that allowed the United States to land on the moon. Like these people >> created Tuskegee University with only 14 >> also created the mail systems. They created the mail system. The right the army and the mail system That movie of all those black women doing That's how the mail carriers today know how they're going to do their routes. How are you How do you think it's dominated by black people?
So, people need to stop playing with us before we dismantle.
When most people say they're not up their ancestors, they don't it in a positive light or that our ancestors were better though. Like let's keep it real. When the average person says we're not our ancestors, they mean like I'm not docile, I'm not going to lay down and take it, I'm not going to let you beat my ass or water holds me down and just hang my head low and cross the street. So, when I say that I am my ancestors, it's because genetically, I am, you know? I I feel like I think that we are reincarnations of our ancestors. Like if you want to go a little deeper spiritually, but everybody has different perspectives.
It's just like however you see God, you know what I mean? But we don't have to get too much into that. I believe in reincarnation because listen, Jones, I love that because exactly what I was thinking.
Like yeah, you know, we're not going to do that, but what our brain is, we've just been reincarnated. I think I like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the reason why I say that is because they're looking out for us, you know what I'm saying? I don't know if you guys have been paying attention recently. Like every time they they're doing something, it it goes back to it flips back on them, you know what I'm saying? Like this whole Chudd the Builder thing, you see what happened with that. And I believe that's I believe we're going to see it again with this gerrymandering.
Just just sit back and watch.
I'm going to sit back for a little bit.
I believe I believe in reincarnation cuz you know when you like the way we sing like Aretha Franklin, Whitney Houston, or Luther Vandross, those are those ancestral cries that's manifesting through their voices whenever they are able to use that rhythm and they able to to ripple and stuff like that. Those are those ancestors crying through them.
Like when you hear those different emotions and everything like that.
There's a spiritual connection to our ancestors when we sing like that. That's the reason why we have Whitney Houston and Aretha Franklin and Patti LaBelle and Luther Vandross and Teddy Pendergrass and all of these people.
Those are ancestral cries whenever you hear them sing.
As crazy as that sound.
>> Right.
You're right. You're right.
I wanted to ask a question to if the panel, um, not to the exclusion of the host.
Um, it seems like we're all men in men on this panel.
What do you think is going to be necessary for us to uh, reclaim our rightful Almost let me not rightful.
Yeah, I was going to >> Rightful rightful places as the leaders of our What did you say? No, say that.
Say rightful because >> Uh, our our rightful, um, places the as the head of our communities.
Um, and I guess to lead it into a secondary s- question.
Um, how is that going to be um How could then that be used to start building up our communities in the same way that our predecessors did with some of these, um, communities like Black Wall Street? Mhm.
I think this is a great question for men to answer.
We have to We have to We have to restore the black family. That's one of them.
You know what I mean? I thought he [clears throat] I thought he posed that question to to love.
Well, Did you want to answer that? No, he said to the panel without the exclusion of the host.
Yeah, we have to we have to we have to restore the black family.
But also, you know, the children are the main important factor in this because they're our future. You know what?
Well, are you are you done? I I was going to say one. No, I Somebody said, you know, I'm trying to Then I don't need So, the thing the thing is like the children are the future and I think that we got to prepare young black boys to to become more competent, capable, and qualified.
Um we have to start while they're young.
But also um we need a protective class of people like ex-military um And there are some good brothers in law enforcement, too. We need ex-law enforcement um brothers who know how to handle firearms and stuff like that. But maybe we still need the Black Panther Party. Remember, that was a party of protective class.
But remember what the FBI did to them?
Well, dismantled, infiltrated, and dismantled. Was he a major plain American war hero, I think you were talking to. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Did you land?
Um I'm about to land right now. Okay, land and then we could go down to the next person. Go ahead. Yeah, I feel like black people need to prioritize silence.
We need to become more like carbon monoxide. We need to be there without being detected. We need to become scentless, tasteless, and odorless in everything that we do.
And understand that the code needs to be an unspoken rule in order to get things done more effectively because we're being watched.
Okay, uh well, Caleb, you asked the question, so you want to answer the question that you asked?
Yeah, I think that it's going to require for us to um one, we have to really get our um our family units more intact with one another.
I think that the um and I don't mean to derail it at all, but I think like the whole gender war sort of thing that needs to go out the window for our community specifically. Like we need our women, our women need us.
We need to be there for them.
Um and we cannot build the community without them. I don't care what anybody is saying on social media or IRL. We can't do it without our women.
Um and so that means that that looks like we need like a somewhat of a cultural shift and overhaul back to the old ways.
And um I also think that with that sort of moral foundation, now we can start to build on that and capitalize on that because you free up bandwidth to then look at how I how can I start creating the physical infrastructure. Once we have the familial infrastructure, now let's build up the physical infrastructure. So now it's now we're talking about going and purchasing acres of land. Now we're talking about building roads, building homes, building shopping centers, building hospitals, building schools, these types of things. Now we're talking about uh electing our own public officials, these types of things. So I think it has to like stack upon itself in that way. Does anybody disagree with that?
Um go ahead. You haven't said anything more than this.
Well, what I was going to say is that I I personally think we're on the process of that by delineation. Because I think that's been one of the real big problems is that we've been so open as a culture, as a people that it allows a whole bunch of different people on the outside that secretly hate us to infiltrate and create chaos. Like you just Someone earlier said the gender war. Now if you look at the people that are loudest mouths when it comes to the gender war it comes from people from other ethnic groups. You know, like I know you made a video earlier, love, about um Myron Gaines. You know, he's going off on on black women. And he's not the only one.
There's There are people that try to look like us and come in there.
Now, I'm not saying that in our own ethnic group it doesn't happen, but that is one key. We need to We need to stay on code when it comes to our culture.
And as you see that we're going on there, we need to go stronger on there.
And because we do that doesn't mean we hate other people. But when you You love saying that HAT word, Jesus.
>> I know. I know.
My My bad. My bad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm trying to get TikTok ready before it. Uh my fault. But what I'm saying is that we need to get codified on our own culture. Cuz a culture is a glue to a people. You know, once we identify our culture and put respect on it, you know, and then what we need to do as as men, right? So, if you look at every other culture of men, right? We try They try to get their own. Like, for example, white T people, I noticed this what they do. They'll go into a job, try to learn it, and try to build their own. That's why the whole concept of not compete is really real, cuz that's what they do. So, you do that, try to make your own business, and you try to hire within your community.
You know, this way you don't have little, you know, Y's on the street causing havoc. Okay.
So, can I ask you a question? Yeah.
So, do you believe the DEI was great for black people? Or who do you believe the DEI was created for?
I think they use us for it, but I In In practice, it went to white T women and immigrants. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not I'm not I'm not I didn't say you I didn't say I didn't say you're invalid. Don't Don't even say that. I knew you were about to say that.
Oh, okay. Okay.
No, that's not what I was getting at. I was just gauging you.
Yeah. No, what I'm I'm just saying that we need to Like, especially as men, cuz you know, men, we build the culture. You know, we build we build society. So, you know, we have to Cuz like, let's be honest. Like, I work in a corporate field. Like, we get tired of of their nonsense. [laughter] Okay. Okay. So, without telling me where you work, what do you do for work?
Without telling me. So, you can you won't deny telling me what you do for work.
Well, I work in in the medicine field.
Put it that way. Medicine. Okay.
Yeah.
So, you know, and it's you get you get tired of it. Like, my brother, he's a electrician, you know? And that's that's working with your hands. And there's a lot of, you know, uh uh what is it? I guess racism is not the word.
No, what is it about race, darling?
There's a lot of racism in there. You know what I'm saying? You have I mean, but it's also a lot of racism in white-collar Yeah, but like, they're they're actually really really in their in your face in the blue-collar. What I'm saying is that it'd be great it'd be great if there was like a whole bunch >> [laughter] >> it was a whole bunch of racism, too. I don't work in medicine.
I'm in administration, but Yeah. Well, you know what I'm saying?
Well, you know, like for example, like, you know, I'm I'm pretty sure we all have family members that are like, "Oh, your your uncle or your granddad built a house." You know, like, my grandfather is a is a carpenter. You know what I mean? He knows how to build a house and stuff like that. And, you know, like, one of the reason why they they they burned down Tulsa is that all those men were skilled craftsmen. So, they had better houses than the white people.
There you go. There you go.
>> If if a lot of us was in that, we could have really nice houses on the cheap right now. But, you know, that's one of the reason why they got rid of what what is it? Home shop or whatever?
Like, you you know, like, back I think it's like in the '80s or '70s, you in high school, you can learn how to be >> Yeah, and they got rid of it. You know?
That's one of the reasons cuz that, you know, like, low-key, we were the Mexicans of the We know how to wood work. Hold on. We didn't forget that skill, did we? It's a skill.
No, I'm I'm it was easier because it was already in high school already.
>> Yeah, what I'm saying? You so you came out certified. Yeah, cuz They took it out of the high schools in 1969. They took it out of the high schools especially black >> have that know-how. You can't tell me Okay, so so one thing I know what we advocate is you can't take away my knowledge from me. You can take away anything else that you want to, but one thing you can't take away from me is my knowledge of know the know-how.
>> I can't carve wood to save my life, but I can carve some ice cream. Well, you you know what you better do? Hold on now.
Yeah.
Okay, go ahead. There was somebody else up here that they left.
I'm blessed.
Did you want to answer the question um call me TKO about how uh what the question that Caleb asked?
What was the question again? How can we get back to uh What was the question? How did you frame it?
I can match I think it was how black men can build the society the society is that right?
Yeah, that's what we create.
I think in my personal opinion I I did say uh and I like how you expounded on family structure. I said family structure earlier, but I didn't expound on it and you did a very good job expounding on that. That was very good the way that you laid that out. But I also believe that we need to have a better and more sentimental relationship with money.
And understand how to move money and really develop a harmonious relationship with money. Mhm. Right now that's very important. Well, I mean we have to understand how money works, but I don't think we need to be in love with money.
Let's not >> That's not necessarily what I was saying. I know I'm trying to expand. I'm trying to expand.
Um that's how I took it first but right I have to one thing I have to do is understand what I think is called perception. So I have to understand what I'm thinking and then now I have to break it down to layman.
So harmonious. So we have to move with it's just like the flow. What is money? They call it cash flow for a reason.
Right? Money moves slick like water.
If you blink you will miss it.
So what >> Think about that.
Think about that.
Oh I'm sorry you were still going. Yeah you you don't have to respond quick.
People move money pretty well. I mean Well yeah they do. I mean cuz they are harmonious with money.
Move with it. Ain't nothing wrong with money though. I mean Well ain't nothing wrong with it. If you don't have it you're going to be broke. You're going to be living on the ground. I mean What is this >> to figure out where I'm going to invest in.
Am I investing in an idea or a solution?
But that's okay.
Yeah no this is where you tell me about I think >> need to we need to we do need to be financially responsible. But here's the thing. The best way for you to be able to to galvanize resources is to do that within the confines of a marriage. I'm also part of the oversight. So Is there a law >> What do what do we need to do with the money in order for because you know people like to lie.
The human being the original human being.
Oh, I also think we need a uh um apprentice- apprenticeship, especially like for people that are real skilled. Like we definitely to push apprenticeship, especially to the young to the young ones. And when it And that will also help with the money thing.
This way it can circulate in our own communities as well.
>> You know, if I know um little um my little homeboy Jamal is a uh you know, a carpenter. He's an apprentice as a carpenter. And I know him since he was a little kid. I'm going to go with him if I need a carpenter.
Hell yeah.
>> what I'm saying? And that money stays in the Like for example, I have friends from different backgrounds. Like I have my homeboy, he married a Guyanese woman, right? Now, her fam- her family is all into tech. And they helped him get into like uh IT. Now he works at the uh and they moved him to DC. They work in um What's the government thing? That big government thing in DC. Now he he does He does big the DOJ. He works for the DOJ now.
That's not the big That's not the big government in It's actually in Virginia, but let's get back to >> yeah. Yeah, it's Virginia, but I'm just using it as an example of how be- they they helped each other's culture cuz a lot of Guyanese Well, a lot of Indians and Guyanese are trying to get people in tech. You You follow what I'm saying?
No.
You don't know about how Indians do it?
Like they'll When they come here, they barely know anything, but they'll teach you >> stay But what they do What Let me tell you Okay, so have you seen the movie 2012? And I promise you this is what they're doing still today. Because we don't take in new Not for real. They stay in their country. We communicate with them. We visit.
And then we allow them to visit.
That's why you have the immigration clause.
They're supposed to come over here and work.
Yeah. I'm not talking about that. I'm I'm talking about how they try to teach each other when they're here.
Correct. So like okay, so let's say let's say you're a family man.
Let's say I'm in IT, right? And you you're going job to job.
I would try to teach you and walk you through the process to to do the same job as me. You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes they be extra they even cheat for them. I don't advocate for that but they do.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's just [laughter] that Please be honest.
Please be honest. I got to be honest you guys are like far off. You got to stop.
Exactly. No. Yeah, he is far off.
Like you guys you guys >> got to I'm keeping it real. Don't say you guys that's plural.
Yeah, we're not we're not on track right now. Uh no, what I'm saying is >> y'all got off track earlier but I was trying to get you back on track Caleb and then you you veered the [ __ ] off again like a damn truck that was going down a damn dirt road. It was a dirt stop.
Oh really? What did I say that for you to stop track? Well, I forgot because now we're far into the conversation that I'm now focused on this conversation before I heard what you said previously.
Okay, so then it would be safe to say that Okay. I forgot. So what I just said was invalid. So what I'm saying is this What I was trying to get what I was trying to tease out from you guys what I was trying to tease out from you guys was What do you think >> Tell zero lies. all cuz it's all men on this panel. Right? What do you think Let me advise you man. we as men what do you think that we as men need to do in order to build up our community?
Like what what are the foundational steps that we need to take as men?
>> what exactly exactly.
Exactly. Well, well can you answer first? You're a man.
Okay. You posed the question.
>> So Yeah, so Um I think that first, what we need to do is we need to get we need to build up our familial infrastructure. Okay, that's family. Is that what it means?
Family.
I think once that is set, and you can do some of these things in parallel, then you you can start when you have a family unit, you can instill certain morals and ethics within into that family that would prime them for um community building.
Then, once you have that done, you can start Go ahead. No, I'm going to let you No, I'm going to let you >> Yeah, so once you have once you have that familial infrastructure down, then you can actually start building a material infrastructure on top of that.
So, hold on. So, now we need to understand what you mean by material Um material infrastructure meaning um you can start gathering capital, resources, land.
>> Right. Right. Okay. Right.
Right. Right. Okay.
Okay, what else?
So, um once you have that once you have that material and financial capital where you're starting to amass resources and starting to build up the physical >> it was financial and then material.
So, the financial infrastruc- Yeah, you're going to you're going to need finances to ga- to gather resources, but that's why that's one of the reasons why you have a family unit as well, right?
One of the main ways for us to get out of get out of poverty and to actually get ahead, especially in this country. I know, I'm just saying in general. One of the main ways that we were able to do that was by having these intact family units. That's why we were able to do the Black Wall Street thing.
>> do you not Do you not I we don't have that now?
I think we we have it, but it's not strong enough to do what we're trying what we want to do like they did like our predecessors.
Okay. So, what do you propose? What's your proposal?
My proposal is that one Make it elevator.
Yeah. And then after this we got a we got a new person on the panel. I got to go.
>> Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Love you.
>> I'll try I'll try to make this uh 20 seconds.
Um I think overall I think the men need to step up more than what we are doing in being men and we need to start uh focusing on family creation in our community instilling the right ethics and morals in our families and going from there.
Okay. That makes sense. So, what we believe we should be able to tell our offspring this is what you need to do.
So, we're just going to feed their brains with just regurgit- Okay.
All right. Quanesha, hey boo.
Hello homes. Hello panel. Hello gentlemen. Can you hear me? Yes, you got 3 minutes straight with no interruptions. Go ahead. Okay. So, the answer to the prompt I'm a little iffy about the prompt because I don't like what I'm seeing is being pushed as our culture.
I feel like a lot of the issues that are arising, behavior that is arising, consequences that are being happening to us like Deshaun, gentleman that did what he did to the fellow Julio.
A lot of that is kind of being propped up as Look at Look at our culture. This is what we do. This is how we do.
And that's not fully the truth. So, I'm a little iffy about that question.
I feel like anytime we get implemented, it's only it's only implements it for that and then they take credit for what we do and when we're when we're doing good, when we're being phenomenal, when we when we're being that level of excellence. So, that's just my only issue with the prompt. Now, to answer the gentleman, I always hear the gentleman say that we need to start with the family, and we need to start with the money when it comes to their role in fixing or help repairing or growing or further pushing our community.
Those are never the answers because y'all been doing that for the last 67 years.
The answer is community overall because when you focus on the family unit, you leave people out.
Family, when you guys say it, is only men and women.
Our community, as far as FBA, is bigger than that. You have to include everybody. And nobody should be excluded out of that {quote} {unquote} family unit. My grandmother was born 1948. Her mother was born 1919.
My grand My great-grandmother had nine children. They multiplied, and they multiplied, and they multiplied.
But how they made it through the sharecropping era in South Carolina was community as a whole.
The parents, the neighbors, the children, the children's friends, they all worked together. When one left South Carolina and they went up north, they took five with them. When the next group came in, they took five more with them.
When it came down to the job opportunities, they weren't being stingy. They weren't being in a competition. If they knew their neighbor next door up north had a job at at the at the factory, they made sure that somebody else got that same job right next to them at the factory. They weren't afraid to work and get their hands dirty. They weren't afraid to make sure that that their families and their kids were fed. They also made sure that somebody watched the children at all times, man or woman. It wasn't one role versus the other. It was community the whole way through. So, the only way that I see that our men can step into that role is if they get rid of this mindset of following what the pale people be doing and follow what their family was doing.
Which is overall community.
Volunteering for football camps, volunteering for basketball camps, bring bringing in programs. These children have nothing to do. So, what what are they going to do? They're going to listen to Young Thug. They're going to listen to that person. And next thing you know, we get more Shons.
I still can't disagree with you. I still can't interrupt you. I love you, girl.
Okay.
Can I I want to ask you a question. So, with because my grandmother was born in 1921 in Birmingham, Alabama.
So, those people I I agree with your point about the I think you're correct with regard to the overall macro um economy of the of the community, right?
Like I agree with that.
However, that that community that community that you're speaking of was primarily populated by um our predecessors who were in families.
What I mean, do you disagree?
>> Can I Can I Can I interrupt you with that with that? I understand where you're getting at.
But think about it.
Y'all men been populating like Nick Cannon all over this country as is.
Yeah, no no let's not connect the personal anecdotes. So, so, so, well, I mean, it's it's the truth. There are a lot of men who have multiple children under multiple families, and you still leave >> What does that mean?
>> You still leave >> So, you So, you said Hold on, baby. Baby, I'm not arguing with you. What I'm saying is Okay, Nick Cannon is taking care of his children. He's taking care of all of them.
So, what does that personal antidote mean?
A personal antidote mean when you are discussing the family, you're only thinking of one way. And I need I need the men in the community to stop doing that. They need to think opposite. The other men think Okay, so this personal antidote mean, okay. You know what I'm saying? When when when when they say, oh well my family, you're only circling your circle.
What about your children's at the school? You can't you you can't take that kid in?
You it's it's when when you when when you say family unit y'all still exclude a lot of people. Where where the community went wrong, they started dividing within yourself.
And you started to exclude people. It all became mine, me and mines, me and mines, me and mines, me and mines, my wife, my kids, my grandkids, my great grandkids. You forgot about your nieces, your nephews. You forgot about your cousins. You forgot about the play cousin from down the street. You you forgot about little little John John on the other side of the city who used to play football with your kid.
He had no father.
>> needs guidance. Exactly, but he still needs guidance. Yeah, so people out. You cannot do >> hold on. Someone in the comments saying that she's preaching step father culture. No, she's not. But at the end of the day if what if community and it takes a village to raise children, this is how our ancestors or just a couple generations back, this is how they operated. The ones that you all say were so successful. They operated community base. So, if someone didn't have a father in the home, men in the community would still father him in a way. Not saying that you have to pick up the slack or >> Hell no, we not. Pay for the pay for anybody else's kids. Calm down. Nobody's saying that you have to pay for anyone else's children. However, if your son is friends with a boy that doesn't have a father figure in the home, it wouldn't hurt to be a mentor or to do Please don't over or to do like Big Brother type activities. You know what I mean? Like there I There's this guy where I saw that he was doing um content and I don't even know if he was a teacher. I don't know who he was, but he seemed to be a man about like the community and he would literally gather He's on here right now on Tik Tok. He would gather a group of boys, like young boys, maybe maybe 10 or so and take them to Home Depot and tell them about tools.
Like he's makes content like this right now, 2026. Teach them about tools, teach them about consent. You know, like he would get them and take them to do activities.
Um he literally would like teach them about being a man or Oh, yeah, cuz you you need to learn how to hang a picture frame and this is what a hammer does and pliers and tools and nails cuz when you have a family, this is what you're going to have to do for your family. Like he's instilling values into these boys and they're not his children. He He He's probably not related to any of them.
So, that's the point that's being made and you saying, "Hell no." Nobody's asking you to to take care of somebody's child that's not yours.
>> I I didn't mean I didn't mean it like that though. Yeah, but collectively >> could it could have been it could have been came off like that. It did come off like that. YOU SAID, "HELL NO." I mean cuz I I would say I did cuz well, I mean >> like, "Whoa." But that's what I mean.
>> Okay, because okay, because if that if you mean stepfather because what he said was stepfather activities, that's why I told her, "Hell no." No. I'm I'm I'm sorry. That's how you see it. I grew up with Big Mama. Big Mama didn't care who kid you was.
This is This This is This is This This is the same energy for women and men.
Women still do it. I still do it. I know mentors. I know the old mentors.
I can count on five on one hand.
Less than one hand really. Only two fingers.
To count the black men that I know in my community where I live at that are actually sticking out their necks and they're making sure these other young men and these other young girls is doing what they supposed to be doing and I can say proudly every every single young man that he had under his wing went on to college or went on to get a trade. Not in jail and got no record. They doing they big one. They're teachers. They're in the community. They're they're co-hosting events and being positive.
And they're grown men now. I have to do this. I have to do this. I have to do this. I have to do this.
>> Grown men.
He raised grown men in a high school public system with the after school program. You can't tell me it cannot be done. But when y'all get on these panels, y'all get on this internet and >> No. No. I'm I'm I'm I'm saying as a whole. They get on the panels. They get on the internet and they else family.
I love that answer. That answer is nice when it's personal. We talking about community. What can men and women do as a community?
You see a baby hungry and you and you already you you already at the ice cream truck getting you a sandwich.
You can't get that baby ice cream too?
Yes, I will. You want the wrong answer?
I'm I'm not I'm not saying you a particular.
I'm saying I'm not saying you a particular honey.
I'm in general. Thank you. I'm saying in general.
That's awesome.
My problem with So, here's my thing cuz I think that we're going into a dichotomous viewpoint on this like a dichotomous >> a moot point. It's a moot point. It's a moot point. So, what I'm say So, so, so what I'm saying is I think it's a little more nuanced. So, what What changed?
No, I'm saying it's a little more nuanced.
So, what what what I'm saying is we it that needs to happen. Yes, there has to be a communal sense of responsibility, right? But the men that are going to be more likely You got to stop interrupting people.
Okay, but I'm really telling the truth.
>> But you really got to stop interrupting people. Let let people land their planes and then you can go.
Yeah, so what I'm all I'm saying is this.
We do need a community that is willing to help each other out. Um when I'm saying family, I think that it's being um understood as some sort of like individualistic, secluded you know, group of people that's doing their own thing. I'm not saying that.
I'm saying that we need to have a communal mindset, but the men that are going to be more likely wanting to volunteer their time when we do see our our sisters that are, you know, in those unfortunate situations are going to be the men that value family and have family values. I don't think that the current way in which we are handling the situation is scalable and um and I don't think it's going to be a tenable solution for the future. Okay, so do you believe the unaliving rate of black-on-black crimes is is down?
And and that's an important question to ask. I want everyone to know that.
And it is is a 20-year down on that.
There's already been studies on this.
Yeah, it's studies on it. So I want to ask him, so since he believes that we shouldn't do Listen, let me tell you what we haven't been doing. We understand, listen, when we tell each other to calm down, we calm the [ __ ] down. We be like, oh, okay, you right.
I'm sorry. Were you asking a question in that with with Well, I mean, okay.
Go ahead, Republican.
Don't use those words. They're going to think that we're promoting political parties. You could say red party, blue Okay, red party. Go ahead, red party.
Uh is that you talking about >> Right, cuz what is he talking about?
I mean, cuz hold on. You said, okay, let me ask I I want to finish this and I want to finish testing you, okay? Cuz I'm about tired of you.
Okay. Go ahead, sir.
What is going on? I don't know. This guy's got a stick up his butt or something. I don't know Why you being sassy, man? Chill the heck out.
>> [laughter] >> What? Just because that Yeah, [clears throat] you sassy as heck, man.
This dude ain't saying nothing wrong, man.
You over here talking nonsense, man. Get out of here, man.
Morpheus, I don't think you know what the [ __ ] you talking about. You sound like you [ __ ] Yo, first of all, shut up. First off, hold on. You shut up.
Don't tell me to shut up. Don't argue with me. You did nothing. I slap you in your sassy face. I'm not fighting right now. Shut up. You did nothing.
Listen. Oh my goodness. Y'all don't need to be arguing, but everybody just need to relax and take a woo sah.
Now Yeah, we got all these Republicans.
Will you please stop saying that? I don't want people to think I'm promoting any type of politics over here.
Don't you know this is a Can't tell this is a plant, love? Cuz he call everyone a red I'm not a plant. I said you.
You a plant. You over here talking to this guy. He's saying some real stuff.
>> What if I was talking about you?
Cuz you keep calling everyone a red, which I'm not.
>> I What if I What if I was talking about you, though? You were just talking about him, but Just because I'm so But just because I'm articulate and just because my words make sense articulate about you. You sound like a sassy queen. Yeah, okay. I mean Look here, man. Hey. Go get some booty, man. Don't go get your booty cat out. Damn, is that what is that?
You know what that is? That's what you did last time, like 5 minutes ago.
You know [laughter] what you know what I don't know what the hell he talking about. You know what I'm talking about?
No, the [ __ ] I don't. It is not need to go there. It's no need to go there. It's no need to go there.
>> We be in We be in the damn you know what What is happening? Y'all got Y'all got a whole lot Y'all got a whole lot of toxic stuff going on. Breathe.
If this is what you Listen, if Morpheus is what you want >> Yeah. Yeah, listen. Hey, B. You know what? Be quiet, bro.
You running your mouth this whole time talking nonsense. Oh my god. Yeah, to you. Damn. No, it's true everyone.
Everyone.
You're the one with the boyfriend. You got two guys behind you, man. Shut the heck up.
You know what?
Yeah, go Go drink Yeah, you mad because you know it's true.
I'm a clean out my cabin. I'm going to shut you up, but I ain't trying to embarrass you like that.
>> to look like a You going to look like a punk like you are?
What?
punk Y'all got to stop. Y'all are rude as ever up here. Y'all Y'all rude as ever up here.
It's not that deep. No, you a [ __ ] You've been over here interrupting everybody with your sassiness talking [ __ ] I only interrupt So, you you No, you interrupted the other guys over here, too. Morpheus, you just going to be a >> live this whole time. I don't know what's wrong with you.
What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? No, something's wrong with you.
Something's wrong with you, queen. Sit Sit down somewhere.
Uh Morpheus, you got to They could say you got to go cuz he I kept telling y'all not to use inflammatory language or to say certain things.
You got restricted.
And this is also what I meant, too, by y'all leaving people out. Y'all be leaving people out for no reason just because of your own difference. It's never that deep in this life cuz last I checked we all we all black.
It's men. Like I I I don't understand why why the back-and-forth even needed to take place. If you disagree with somebody's point, you disagree with their point. It's no need to go in deeper into their personal.
I never went to nobody's personal. And if anybody in the comments feel that way, you take it up with your mama and now that's personal. I did not I'm I'm so I'm I'm so for real. I'm sick of people making a point that's valuable and instead of going against their point, you want to oh, take it personal.
Oh, you talking about gender. Oh, you talking about I'm saying as a community commutity commutity it's not just the two you and that mom and dad. It is everybody. Everybody got to do it. That's the problem. Now, I asked my grandmother that and she said, "The problem is they don't know how to stick together. Y'all don't know how to stick together because it's always me me me my my my my my." Black men also have a influence a heavy influence on the culture. Black women don't follow men necessarily 100% but we are still influenced by y'all desires by what y'all want by what y'all like. Y'all say one thing and do the complete opposite.
I'm saying to answer the question that was also posed in the the previous panel, this is something that men can do. You can easily go down to the YMCA.
Go help a kid do basketball. There's other programs that you can help and spend time with. That's the problem.
Ain't nobody spending time with these kids. Y'all always pointing on the mama.
It's everybody. The aunties, the big cousins. Everybody Everybody Everybody got to put a hand in. These kids are our kids. You see You see some kids out in the street being a knucklehead, you supposed to also be be like, "Hey, what you doing?"
Call that out. We don't do that as a community. When you start doing community, you change the culture. You change the culture, we won't have no Shyne. Shyne came from Shyne came from a two-parent household.
They had good money. Yes.
>> And he still did what he did to another person who's supposed to be another brother.
This happens every day. You can't skip over that. It's community. Everybody.
Both sides. Yes, sir.
I I agree with you. Like I think that community is needed. I just don't think that what you're proposing is scalable or tenable in any sort >> We're not thinking about business. We're not thinking about business. Hold on. I have a business degree and then when you talk about scalable, that's the only thing my mind goes to. Okay, how does he want to create his business? How does he want to exploit black people?
So, hold on.
I promise I'm not telling a lie.
Because there was another mayor of the same place.
Everybody double tap the screen. We should at least have 50k likes on this.
What's on? Like >> the um to the gift goal at the top. Send your heart me's. Um we're probably going to be on here for maybe like 10 more minutes cuz this is a lot going on. It's only a couple people up here for it to be so goddamn much. Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ help us. Double tap the screen. Um I um Caleb, I don't know who was saying something but I need to say something to what's the word. So, speak on both sides. You sound biased. You're the one who keeps saying gender wars.
First of all, she literally mentioned women's role in this 50 [ __ ] thousand times. What more do you want? It's like accountability is like [ __ ] kryptonite for some of y'all. It's it's ridiculous at this point. She literally said women do it because we do. We we always doing a carpooling. We help each other. You know, and and we don't have to have children to help other people with children in the community.
>> Please, cuz I spend all my money on these kids. I I'll be spending money on these kids.
This is what I'm saying. Why y'all keep acting like, oh, well, what about what women Women do every [ __ ] thing when it comes to child rearing.
And we don't even have to have kids. We help our family members with the kids.
We help friends, neighbors, anybody anytime we see children in the street.
I've went up to ice cream truck and bought children ice cream cones that I didn't [ __ ] know from a hole in the wall. I've had little girls come up to me and ask me questions about all sorts of things and I've sat down and spoke to them.
>> them. So it's not just about oh what what about women? Women are already doing these things. So we're saying if men match what women were doing community wise, then we would be way further.
Gender wars at this point, we have bigger fish to fry, but we have to also address the elephant in the room. I used to address the [ __ ] all the time and say exactly what y'all said and y'all would cuss me out like a dog in the street. I literally would say exactly what y'all would say, choose better. If you make a mistake, don't do it two and three and four and five and six times. Show up, be better. And y'all would cuss me out.
It's just because you don't like to hear certain things coming from a woman, period.
I'm about to follow you.
I've been on your panel before.
I just didn't know that I would like you this much.
Oh lord.
>> [laughter] >> You are a character. You should have been following her. Uh-uh, hold on. I've been on her panel I've been on her panel once before.
Pause the live. If y'all not If y'all not following my girl Love Joy, y'all need to go ahead and hit that follow button. And stop playing with her life. Like the live.
Stop excusing Stop playing on on my boot tops. For real, for real.
Y'all Y'all Y'all love doing that. Y'all Y'all ain't nothing wrong with her.
But y'all keep acting like what she's saying is something wrong and it's really about you.
>> Ain't nothing wrong with she saying. She didn't say anything that was like when the [ __ ] did I say hard? It's not hard at all. It is the easiest thing to do because I'm doing it right now. I have a job. I have a career. I help my family. I help the other kids' family. I I've done the work. I've actually mentored young boys and young girls.
Again, like I said, all of them went to college. All of them went to trade school. If I could do that at 18, y'all could do that at 35 and 40. I don't Do you understand? You know what?
>> [laughter] >> You know, I don't believe that with THE PROBLEM IS YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S SO HARD.
I'm not even 30 yet and I've already done it.
Girl, that's too late. If they're doing it at 30 and you've already done it.
It's doable. And And And that And that is my only issue with what Caleb said.
It's not that it's impossible. Y'all choose not to do it. Y'all would give me five excuses instead of me giving me one good reason why you should.
Why you should? It does not make sense.
Okay. Oh my god. This is what I'm always >> Let Let Caleb um say something cuz he's trying to say.
Go ahead, Caleb. Yeah, I want to ask uh and this is actually for both of you, for Love Jones and XO.
Uh do you two think that >> You never address men, but Could you leave him alone and let him Like he's literally been entertaining the conversation.
>> I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Go ahead, Caleb. This dude is crazy.
Um uh Okay, for Love Jones XO, are you got Do you guys think that what I'm saying is that it's impossible to do this to to to have community where men are volunteering their time to help give themselves to young men that, you know, they're not directly related to.
Is that what you guys are hearing what I'm saying what I'm saying?
No.
I Can you repeat the question? I didn't I didn't even hear it and then, you know.
Okay.
Do you hear when I'm what um from the answer that I gave that I'm saying it's impossible for men to uh engage with young men and and give themselves to them and help them learn like essential skills for life and and and whatnot.
Is that what you're >> No. Well, I'm going to answer first. It just sounds like you're saying that you have to start with your own family first. And a lot of men don't have families. So, just because you don't have a family, does that mean that you don't help your community? Does that mean that you don't pour into children that are already existing and then walking around, you know, that could use some type of mentorship or listening ear or advice?
That's what I hear you cuz you keep saying it starts with the family, but what if you don't have a family yet?
You're still an able-bodied person that could pour into people.
You could still be a pillar of your community without having a family.
I see what you're saying. So, what I think is like given where we are currently, right?
Like let me know if you agree or disagree with this. I think it would be it would behoove us to start there. Like what you and XO are talking about, right?
It would behoove us to start there.
But, the end result should still be us that should lead to family formation in which in which now that that new infrastructure of family formation is permeating throughout our community where we still have that cultural um you know, habit of helping each other out in community. Do you agree or disagree with that?
Absolutely.
All right. Yeah, that's what I would Yeah. And I will say And and I will say, I have witnessed some of the young men that I help mentor, they have families of their own.
They take care of their kids. They have that family unit. It's not that it can't be done. The issue is you got to start somewhere. And if you're waiting to have your own family like how Love Jones just said, you'll be waiting 30, 40 years. Like >> [laughter] >> start sooner. Help these babies sooner.
Because here's the thing and because let me tell you, while you're waiting on family, young thug out out already influencing these kids. So, you So, it it it it may not even be no family to even be created. You got to start sooner. You got you got to get the ball rolling. It's not that compli- complicated.
>> So what she's saying is dynamic versus nuclear.
You want a nuclear family that you might not never get.
I mean, by the way you're talking, I think you need to just start a dynamic family unit because I mean, there's people out here that probably need you.
But there will never be and I ain't Well, never is a bad word.
Did you hear >> I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not >> what me and Love Jones just got done talking about? Feel like that just Nobody heard it. I I just went to the bathroom so no, I didn't. So >> Hold on. Hold on, Caleb. I'm not saying >> none he said.
Caleb, I'm not saying that. I I agree. I hear what you're saying. Your concern is the nuclear. I'm not disagreeing with that. That still holds a very high value. But right now what's happening, you have nuclear families. But the outside community with with based on the culture right now, Yeah.
>> it's not it's not hoping that nuclear family continue to grow. You have to do both. You have to do both and it's easier to start and and it's easier to start with community first because now you're affecting the younger ones. So now, my students who are now in their early 20s, they have that family they have that nuclear family.
>> They have it and they're flourishing and they're doing good. And then that passes on to the next one. Then that passes on to the next one. And then it becomes a each one teach one. You ever heard of that phrase? Each one teach one. When you know better, you do better. That's That's all I'm saying. I'm not I'm I'm I'm not trying to come at nobody top.
No, you're not offending me in any way, >> take anything. You're not offending me in any way, shape or form. So ex so Um when I when I um said to Love want >> to deepen his voice to act like he ain't doing [ __ ] wrong. And then that's just like a Rachel Y'all remember Rachel when Rachel decided to create Let me tell you something >> Fran let Fran let Caleb talk. Let Caleb talk because he he I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I want to I want to I want to clear it up because honestly XO I think we are seeing eye to eye. So, what I said to Love Jones was this. I said Love Jones let us let us continue on.
Bro.
Go ahead. Okay, Caleb.
Um what I said to Love Jones was we should start where you guys are at or saying. We should start that way where we're influencing that, you know, men are willing to give their time to younger men, train them up, help them get life skills, help them instill some morals and ethics within them. We we need a community effort to do that, but the result of that should be a new familial infrastructure being that undergirds our community whereby which now since men are teaching these young men to do this and this new familial infrastructure is being has been developed, they continue that, but now we're more strong because we have the the infrastructure familial infrastructure to really in a more, you know, effective fashion instill those morals and ethics and really do a lot of good throughout the entire community.
So, we should start where you guys are saying and then end up there. Exactly, but I'm sorry. I have to I have to correct you cuz words are powerful. We don't end up nowhere. We just continue to grow.
Well, yeah, we will continue to grow, but you understand what I'm saying.
There's a transition that should happen.
I hear what you're saying, but somebody else may come across this and I want to make sure that words are powerful. Our elders always tell us that the words we say out our mouths are very, very powerful. We don't end with the We don't end with the nuclear family. We continue to grow from the nuclear family, but we start with community, and we just that flower just that garden just keeps getting bigger, and it just keeps getting better, and then it keeps getting stronger, and then at some point, no matter what they do, right?
Taking the school school classes and school programs out of the schools, it wouldn't matter, because we're still doing it at home.
We're still doing it in our communities.
We're still We're still We're still teaching in our communities.
Yes, ma'am. We continue to blossom.
Yeah, so yeah, I think that we agree, like you said. I think we were maybe just There's some >> I don't think [ __ ] do [ __ ] [ __ ] do.
Well, I mean, this do this. I I agree with the result. I never >> more than what we thought we disagreed on. That's what I'm saying. We're more in alignment than what we thought. Oh, oh, okay. So, you know everything. And and and most people most people are in in alignment. The issue I always have with when I hear, and I'm not saying you two gentlemen or the other gentleman that was here, when I see panels, when I go online, when I go on social media spaces, and I hear the men talking, and I try to listen. I try to give y'all at least 10, 15 minutes of listening.
Y'all always start with nuclear family, and it's like, hold up now, cuz you won't cuz you going to leave somebody nephew out. Who going to take your Who going to take your son out?
>> Exactly.
>> So, we need to make sure we get everybody He doesn't understand what the Library of Congress Listen, and this this is why I get mad at him, because I agree with him. I agree with him first. He doesn't understand the domestic trends of 2025, and then that Or was it 2015? Damn, I'm still 10 Y'all still 10 years behind. I know what they're doing right now.
Um because if the domestic trends. I want you to look up something. I'm going to task you with something. Caleb, are you ready?
No.
Okay.
Well, then you you're not ready for you know what?
So, it's a moot point. M O O T. What is your beef with Caleb? Like what you doing?
Hey, love Jones.
You keep playing with Caleb.
Man, he ain't did [ __ ] to you.
He ain't saying anything right, but he says things that's right. And then I had to tell the the the Latoya lady down there in the comments. Listen, girl, you you have to be you have to be in alignment.
When you're not, it makes me a little concerned. I'm so confused.
I know, me too, baby. You know But somebody said he wants Caleb. Oh my god. But I don't know if that's what That's That's not what it means. But that's why I was saying words are powerful because that's why I said I want to make sure me and Caleb understand where I'm coming from, where he coming from, because I see where he coming from, but I need him to see where I'm coming from. I wasn't coming at him or the men on the panel earlier directly. I'm saying when I get in these spaces, I hear those same answers, and then we end up nowhere.
I want to make sure that I I am giving y'all the opportunity to speak and and be heard, but I also want to guide y'all to be productive, because it's been 60 years. I'm almost 30. Most of my life y'all have not been be being productive.
We need to we need to keep the ball rolling. We're doing good right now the last couple years. We need to keep that ball rolling. So, that's the only reason why I even hopped on here. I'm like y'all is it's the same answers. It's like a robot. Somebody It has to click somewhere. If it don't click here, it ain't going to click nowhere else. So, then you go on other panels. Can you do me a favor, Caleb? Or or or or being you're your boys, when you're around playing basketball in in the in the gym, or however I work, can you please preach to other fellow black American men, "Hey, maybe we should probably volunteer a couple hours."
Volunteer also helps your tax credit.
Mhm? Yeah.
>> I know.
Write offs.
It's a write off.
>> [laughter] >> [ __ ] Do something. You know what I'm saying? Push it. Talk about it.
>> do it but do it from your heart.
All right, I'm getting out of here.
That's who Y'all give y'all final thoughts and then I'll be back later. Well, technically later but tomorrow. Go ahead, Caleb. You can give your final thoughts. Okay.
Um I'm sorry. So, yeah.
>> Be careful. Call Leave it You know what?
Cuz it gets to a [ __ ] point.
Go ahead. You Okay, Lacey. I'm going to check it out after I get out of here. Go ahead, Caleb.
Yeah. First off, Love Jones, thanks for allowing me to come up on your panel.
I appreciate it. So, thank you. What? Uh >> [snorts] >> yeah.
My final thoughts is look, we're we're wonderful people, we're a great people.
I think that we can not only achieve the same greatness that we had prior, but we can supersede. We can surpass it.
Um what our our predecessors what our ancestors did. And so, uh I agree with a lot of the points that um you, Love Jones, and also made.
And um I hope that you know, like I said, thanks for letting me come up and just say my peace. I'll do what I can on my end.
The funny part is like you didn't even mean to come up here. Then you came up here, you got harassed by that guy. I'm so sorry.
>> [laughter] >> I'm sorry. I'm glad. But I don't know what the hell is his problem. Maybe he was drinking a little bit of something.
I don't know. But we'll go ahead, Kwai.
All right. Yeah, I I have no idea.
Listen, I I tried to keep everybody in line. I tried to make sure everybody feel respected cuz I don't cuz cuz because Love Jones know how I can get down. You want to get disrespectful, we can get disrespectful. I'm I'm from up north. You know what I'm saying? Like it ain't nothing to just foo foo foo. It ain't nothing for me. I am I am masculine and feminine. I hold both.
>> [laughter] >> But, um I appreciate you having me on this panel and allowing me to speak to the to the lovely people watching. Of course, you know, I'm saying I came in late Um to the to to the to the question. I hope that if anything, we do not promote the the negative that is being pushed as our influence and we only push the positive and make sure we continue to keep our credit for when when we're doing good so that people don't think that we just out here doing whatever cuz that's not the case. Um I hope that we as all community learn something tonight and you know, like I said, it is a tax credit. Low key low key, you feel me? A little help with that. Volunteer your time. Be a part of the community. If you don't have one in your community, reach out to someone who know how how to create one. Each one teach one. We all have one love. Don't Love Jones always says spread love is the Brooklyn way. We need to spread love is the Black American way. That part.
Thank you guys for joining me tonight.
This was a short, you know, well, shorter in comparison to other lives, but um very eventful nonetheless cuz >> [clears throat] >> Lord have mercy.
God damn it.
But, I do think that we're in critical times and absolutely, I've been called a mas and a child. I've been called everything but a child of god damn god.
But, moving forward, um we do need to find some type of common ground and commonality because there's whitey nationalist I'm speaking specifically to black men now. Like whitey nationalist from Canada that traveled to Texas and Fort Worth um, Dallas.
I posted a video about it, but ironically, the last time I looked at it only had 71 views. I have over 65,000 followers, so you know that that's being suppressed.
They're literally, um, training for a race, w a r, and I don't know who waged w a r on on these people.
I don't know what's going on, but we are literally being attacked on all fronts.
So, at some point we got to commune.
Because it's really getting crazy out here. Y'all see what happened with Chad the Builder, literally just walking up to us using racial slurs, um, using pejorative terms, harassing, stalking, like other races of people are crashing out, but just simply because we decided to sit down. See how the Latinos and Hispanics, they're rallying behind, um, Ashley Gonzales, because, uh, I think it's honestly because we we didn't fight the ice cream truck for them. We didn't march out in the street against ICE. That's really what is giving why they're so up in arms. So, how people really feel is starting to to rear its ugly head. And they're they're trying it. Everybody is coming at us, and then of course, you know, other immigrants that look like us, they're not much help. It's unfortunate, some of them are cool as [ __ ] individually, but as a collective, when they're in positions of power or authority, they're not much help. So, we have to continue to make the distinction of who we are.
And, um, when we come back, I want to I want to delve more into the integration topic. So, I believe that's what we will talk about next time.
You know, but literally, people the people are trying to like wage war on us. I know I'm not supposed to say that up here, but I'm about to get off, so hopefully it don't be a problem. But, like they're every we're getting it from everywhere, though.
We're getting it from everywhere.
So, uh, we we got to we got to figure it out cuz this is this is this is crazy. It really is.
We have bigger fish to fry than to be arguing with each other. Child, Lord knows I've done did enough of it. And you guys have absolutely a point about who what, when, where, and why because a lot of people in the manosphere are not black American. And we didn't even really look at it or, you know, realize it before. Like I remember a guy that was making a bunch of videos about me, he was Haitian. And I didn't even we didn't even, you know, no no one even thought about that.
But now we're having these conversations and like I said, we have much bigger fish to fry. But we still got to hold y'alls asses accountable because we always got the we ain't got no choice but to be accountable for [ __ ] that we don't even got no control over.
Anyways, I'm going to get out of here.
Life is a movie you're starring in it.
The world is a stage.
You They got some situations going on too. I'm going to tell you later. It's some mess.
Oh my goodness. Well, yeah, send me a message, boo.
>> [snorts] >> My allergies starting to act crazy.
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