Casey Anthony on Keeping Memory of Caylee Alive and Public Perception

Added: 2026-05-28

[00:00:00]They're not awakened enough. They don't have the emotional intelligence or capacity to understand the empathy that is required.

[00:00:06]>> And a lot of people don't want to be proven wrong either. There's also that element. But the the majority of people either don't know or don't care. And I say that about politics. I say that about my situation. I say that about most things. I see names pop up about people and then I see someone has 40 million followers and I I've never heard the same before today.

[00:00:23]>> Yeah. So where everybody's like everybody feels this way and where I say everybody feels this way, you know, and where everybody's saying everybody feels this way. That shows you how none of that is accurate. None none of that is true. Because even if you're talking about it being split into a 50/50 of the people either don't know or don't care, and the other 50% of the people have an opinion, good or bad.

[00:00:45]>> Yeah. So you have to break that up into all of these smaller segments either way about anything regardless of what it is.

[00:01:11]>> Thumbs up. that this has been the permanent >> foam photo on my phone. So every time I >> closer too so we can all so the whole class can see. Oh my goodness.

[00:01:21]>> So much >> so much joy. Oh, she was and still is everything and always will be.

[00:01:33]>> Yeah. And that's also one of those things that no matter the hateful or hurtful things that people try to say, whether they believe it or not, they can't take any of that from me.

[00:01:43]>> Yeah. Yeah. And you know in your heart, you know in your heart where where you stand.

[00:01:47]>> Well, and all anybody has to do is is look at pictures like that. And every picture that you've seen, unless I'm physically in a picture with her, that's one of the few exceptions where, you know, with old school flip phone trying to take a a selfie or even digital camera at that point. That's one of the few. Yeah.

[00:02:03]>> You don't see me in a lot of pictures with her because I was always the one taking the pictures.

[00:02:08]>> Yeah.

[00:02:09]>> I was always the one making sure that all of that was there.

[00:02:14]That was out of pure love and devotion from me, not because I was being told to do so. the [ __ ] that people say and the the lack of basis for all of it is is just disgustingly hurtful. But it is a little bit laughable at the same time because it's just it it's a it's a reason for them to interject themselves into something and just say something for two seconds.

[00:02:35]>> Yeah.

[00:02:37]>> But at the same time, it's so far from the truth. And I still have so many people in my life, not just my 25 year best friend from high school, but I have another 10 people that I'm still close with that I grew up with that also had a relationship with Kaylee. Even some of my old friends moms. Don't talk to the friend, but I talk to their moms.

[00:02:55]>> Yeah.

[00:02:56]>> Yeah.

[00:02:56]>> That had relationships even with her.

[00:02:59]Not just me, but with her, with her and I. And they know all of this to be true.

[00:03:05]>> Yeah.

[00:03:06]>> So, you know what? the some of the public perception for [ __ ] Yeah. There's there's no point in trying to prove the negative because the truth is already out there.

[00:03:17]>> Yeah. Well, yeah. I was going to say like the difference >> not to see it. They're they're being willfully blind and they're just they're they're just being an [ __ ] >> Yeah.

[00:03:26]>> And it's it's same thing that I can equate to the people who see Donald Trump and go he's amazing.

[00:03:32]>> Yeah.

[00:03:33]>> While he's doing all of this [ __ ] intentionally hurting people. It's like you couldn't have things more opposite.

[00:03:38]>> It's like it's literally it's the difference of the of the difference between regurgitation and investigation.

[00:03:44]So many people will just keep spitting out what they read, everything they see, they'll let other people decide for them what to think. Yeah.

[00:03:50]>> They don't actually stop and look for themselves. But anybody with a set of eyeballs and a couple brain cells rubbed together, if they actually look into the case, beyond uh the the headlines, beyond the news, the way they cut things up and how they ran the news cycle, if you look into it there, it's it's undeniable that there was something awful awful happening in that home. And yeah, obviously you made made choices that did were weren't the right choice at the end of the day. And obviously you could have done things differently.

[00:04:17]Obviously all of that people want you to take accountability and how have you not though, right? Obviously you've admitted that yes, obviously it could have gone well, but then also we need to acknowledge that you were so young at the time and if >> if all of these things were stacked against you and and then you're like people just don't even realize just how the trauma of just everything that was happening at once and having lost the child and then being not like you you were already like I don't even know. I'm having a hard time putting my words together here, but I think it just to me it seemed so obvious once I realized what I needed to know about it and when I looked into it, it seemed so obvious to me. So, I think that people are either going to get it or it's or it's too late for them. They're not awakened enough. They don't have the emotional intelligence or capacity to understand the empathy that is required.

[00:05:04]>> And a lot of people don't want to be proven wrong either. There's also that element. But the the majority of people either don't know or don't care. And I say that about politics. I say that about my situation. I say that about most things. I see names pop up about people and then I see someone has 40 million followers and I go I've never heard the same before today.

[00:05:21]>> Yeah.

[00:05:21]>> So where everybody's like everybody feels this way and where I say everybody feels this way, you know, and where everybody's saying everybody feels this way. That shows you how none of that is accurate. None none of that is true.

[00:05:32]Because even if you're talking about it being split into a 50/50, 50% of the people either don't know or don't care and the other 50% of the people have an opinion good or bad.

[00:05:43]>> Yeah. So you have to break that up into all of these smaller segments either way about anything regardless of what it is.

[00:05:53]>> Literally anything whether it's my situation again or politics or anything else.

[00:05:59]You you can never use such a general statement to that degree and then just think that I'm going to be the [ __ ] that sticks to the wall at the end of the day because I'm also not naive enough, let alone dumb enough to think that everyone's going to agree with me about Trump. Of course not.

[00:06:18]>> Yeah, there are at least enough people that are out at protests, you know, doing the same [ __ ] that I'm doing, not just around the country.

[00:06:28]We're talking millions of people around the country, but also worldwide doing it in solidarity because they see the difference. So you're talking about maybe, you know what, let's say at most 100,000 people have that opinion about me.

[00:06:41]>> Yeah, >> maybe. Because I'm trying to think of of one of the Facebook groups that that has the most followers and I don't even think it has that. I think it has less than 50,000 followers. So I'm I'm giving them a little extra.

[00:06:53]>> Yeah.

[00:06:53]>> Right.

[00:06:55]But so think of how few people are vocal about things truly in reality. How few people are vocal about their opinions one way or another about things.

[00:07:05]>> That's true.

[00:07:05]>> It's always people that are super for something or super against something.

[00:07:09]And I can lump myself into that. I I'm I'm equally privy to that, you know, because I'm doing the exact same thing about Trump. But again, the difference is is I'm holding other people accountable at the same time. It's not just an attack on Trump or hate on him as a person. And it's hatred towards the actions and behavior. So >> yeah, >> that's the different portrayal that I put out about this [ __ ] >> Yeah, >> because I don't know anybody else's life or anybody else's situation. I'm not going to sit here and hate on a person.

[00:07:36]Even when someone that I care about is in a relationship with someone or married to somebody that I can't stand.

[00:07:43]I don't hate the person, but I definitely hate when I get a phone call from my friend bitching about the person for the 18th time in two weeks and I'm like, I can't listen to this anymore. or I'm on my walk or I just ignore the phone call cuz I don't listen to it anymore. So, you know, >> fair >> it's it's all it's all proportional to to how you view reality. And I think that's a more appropriate way of of viewing reality because to sit there and say I hate hate hate there there's one person in this world that I truly hate at the end of the day.

[00:08:14]>> Yeah.

[00:08:16]one person and even then there's still part of me as disgusting as this is to say I still feel sorry for him.

[00:08:25]>> Yeah. Right there with you to be honest.

[00:08:30]>> Right. How >> I hear you >> because I feel you're going to have that that extreme scale of emotion and you you have the capacity to hate someone.

[00:08:39]You also have the capacity to at least have some kind of empathy towards someone.

[00:08:43]>> Yeah. Well, as you get older, it almost is more pathetic. You feel more like they're a pathetic and it's like a sadness of how broken and depraved and deviated or whatever the issue is.

[00:08:54]>> And that it's there's no saving them.

[00:08:56]There's no and you Yeah. Part of you if you are empathetic, a part of you is going to feel sorry for that as it is >> because you also can view them as a human being. No matter no matter how broken and damaged, they're still a human being. Even if they're still a disgusting monster, they're still a human being at the end of the day. And that's a hard thing to try to explain to people. That's that's a really hard thing to to verbalize out loud, let alone, you know, even just say out loud to yourself. But >> well, to think what happened to him to make him that way that, you know, you could have all these awful things happen to you and not become this monster. So what what went so wrong? What happened there? You know, like obviously there's something that was perpetuating.

[00:09:35]>> Well, again, this is this is the same man and this is all verifiable. Um tried to kill his own father twice. I've seen the police reports. It's in Trumble County, Ohio.

[00:09:45]>> Right. So, what do we think was going on?

[00:09:48]>> So, what do we >> pushed him through a glass window and also went after him with a claw hammer.

[00:09:52]All along I always thought it was the same incident. Nope. Come to find two separate incidents. Again, the beauty of letting other people do the research for you sometimes, which is hard for people like us. But when it's about your own life, sometimes it's just easier to relinquish control and go, "Here's what I know."

[00:10:11]>> Yeah.

[00:10:12]>> See what you can point out. And then they not only corroborate what you say, but they find out even more good [ __ ] >> Oh, yeah.

[00:10:18]>> And it's like, well, godamn.

[00:10:20]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:10:22]>> It's even It's even more convoluted and up than you even realized, but you're still the one holding the bag at the end of the day, so Oh, well.

[00:10:31]>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, he was uh he's an he's an interesting character and I think that just opening this conversation about it >> or I think a lot of people like there's so many more people that relate to elements of your story and elements of just the situation, elements of what you're touching on, speaking even about the thing.

[00:10:49]>> All a lot of that is I think a little more relative than people realize and they feel so isolated, alone and ashamed and all this stuff. But the shame's not on you. It's on the person that [ __ ] did the thing, you know, whatever the thing was that caused the trauma or the horror or the trespasses, that's who should be holding the shame, not you, right? And I think humanizing always the opposite, >> right? but to make people feeling less alone and feeling less isolated and and yeah, the humanization of something that seemed like this big uh crazy situation that it was and it was so glorified or sensationalized in the media, but seeing at the end of the day of you just being a human being that was going through a human thing that was just as [ __ ] up as things everyday people go through and it's it's something that everyone can relate to. And the way that they skewed it, that was the way the media skewed it. It was the way that uh you know the the agenda of prophets and and perpetuating a certain narrative versus coming out with the truth. And I think that alone can serve a lot of people in many ways >> and damaging again going back to the other the moment that I spoke out and talked about the abuse and and and talked about the things that I went through just like what happened during my case when it came out. The same way that my mom attacked me and threw it back on me when I was 19 and told her about this. Yeah, >> they they either deny that it happened or try to say, "Oh, well, it's a self-s serving statement." Or, "Well, but even if it did happen and it's like, are youing serious?" you just well to even acknowledge that something happens like that and to say anything other than I am so sorry that that happened to you know it just further adds to the the growing problem that we see the moment someone comes forward and this is exactly why people don't want to because they don't want to be subjected to that >> and I'm continuing to do this in spite of that because it'sing happened >> it and It's it's already been several times. But here's the great thing about it. Asked up as the whole situation is, I have people that can corroborate the things that I've said, they already have.

[00:12:57]>> Yeah.

[00:12:57]>> So, it's not just my word, but I will use my words to continue to paint the picture because the truth is important.

[00:13:11]>> Yeah. No matter how painful, >> the truth will set us free. That's one of the things I say all the time. Other people say it, too.

[00:13:18]>> Well, it'll also rack up therapy bills.

[00:13:20]And >> yeah, >> at least there's medicinal weed that helps.

[00:13:24]>> That does help. Yeah. But I mean, as a collective, all of us speaking our truths more and coming together more, united by trauma. Like, that's the one thing. And we've said, we've talked about this uh just how it's not the same, you know? It's it's the same in every color, flavor, whatever you are, religion, culture, race, language. We all know trauma. We all feel the pain.

[00:13:44]We all can understand emotional and physical and all the other kinds of pain that the human experience sometimes. And I think you're doing a great service.

[00:13:52]>> We all deserve to feel heard and understood regardless. I don't have to know what someone to have sympathy or empathy for someone to still care that it happened to them to still see the pain.

[00:14:08]>> And so many of you that never got a chance to actually hug her, smell her hair, smell the sweet sweat when she came in from outside.

[00:14:21]You break a bone and that will heal. If as long as the bone is reset or you wear a cast, that bone will physically heal and likely never show a sign of trauma again. But those psychological wounds stay forever.