In high-profile criminal cases, effective legal defense requires thorough preparation, including presenting character witnesses, addressing the punishment phase, and challenging prosecution evidence. The Carmelo Anthony case illustrates how rushed proceedings, inadequate defense counsel, and questionable evidence handling can contribute to wrongful convictions. Defense attorneys must prepare for punishment hearings, present mitigating evidence, and challenge prosecution narratives to ensure fair trial outcomes.
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U.S. Department of Justice| + NFL Lawsuit & KARMELO ANTHONY | Star Athlete, Wrongfully Accused
Added:Hey, hey, it is what it is. I'mma keep pushing. I'mma keep pushing. So, Carmelo Anthony, young man, just hold on. Hold on tight. Hold on tight because the appeal has already been submitted. Okay, the appeal has already been submitted.
Investors, like I told you. Like I told you, I don't know when you find me, but I told you that I was going to use my channel for Shador Sanders and for anybody in the community that needed my help. And as you can see, I'm standing on my word and I'm not Oh gosh. And I feel really it's an honor for a time like this to already be established, monetized, and have a voice on YouTube where I can speak. Also, for anyone that come across this video, give my opinion on this commentary because good gracious, some of the things that have been said on social media has been a disgrace.
If Deshun Watson is one for business purposes, if Jador Sanders is two for talent, hey, I think we're still going to have a good winning record. And y'all, it's still going to go down in history. Cleveland Brown history with the winning winning record that we going to get this year if bet sports betting does not come and play a major part into this. But we going to we going to continue to cover that. What's up, Justine? Justine. Justine, where you been? They're asking for a Secret Service to get involved. Everybody is crying for Donald Trump to get involved.
Listen, this is one of this is going to be one of the easiest cases to be overthrown and appealed. What you say, Mel? I was wondering about that.
Usually, you have a s a sentencing hearing, right? I thought that was strange and unorthodox. AI said it doesn't have it. AI couldn't give me one case where somebody was found guilty.
and sentence in the same day. Hey, uh, go out if you're using a out. I use Hey, what's up, Vestas? How are y'all doing on this Good Friday, the information I have for you today, I'm trying to tell you, it's going to be very compelling over here talks best. how we going to do it. We come to the stage. Let me go ahead and come to the stage. And I just want to let you know, hold on, let me see here.
There we go. There we go. Hey, I just want to let you know I have watched hours and hours and hours of different content regarding this case. And the last line that I did when I said that the federal government should take over this case and also it should a federal intervention. I got proof based off everything that I've heard from uh witnesses off of Lisha Lakesha from an actual lawyer. I've looked at two or three videos that comes from another content creator. Um no captivity with Freezy. I've heard from that and also most importantly most importantly I have heard from the uh the video from Court TV regarding a prior prosecutor. I think he either a he's either a current or a prior appealent judge and he had some very compelling remarks about Judge uh John Roach who I'm hearing that he may have abruptly retired. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure. So don't quote me on that. But even if he hasn't, and even if he has, based off the information that is coming out of this case, it doesn't matter if he retires or if he's going to retire, he still should be uh subpoenaed and questioned by federal investigators about everything that has happened in Colin County. Now, if you're not familiar with my platform, I have to cover a small segment here that's going to regarding uh my channel is for the algorithm. So, just hold on and I'm immediately going to jump into the Carmelo Anthony um uh information and segments that I've been able to gather over 9 to 12 hours of content.
So, out of respect of the content creators, I'm going to give them a credit for their work. I'm going to tell you where I got the information from before I play the snippets because hey, we're all a team and we're going to keep pushing for uh the freedom of Carmelo Anthony. Like I said, I was a sports content creator and just like I used my platform for Shador Sanders and the saga that he went through the NFL, I I feel as a time like this, it is a honor to to be able to use my platform in justice for Carmelo Anthony. So, just give me one second, one to five minutes, so I can just cover this other article regarding the NFL and the litigation and the lawsuits that they're going to and then I'm going to automatically jump into the Carmelo Anthony information that I've done up y'all. And I want to tell you this, that video that I saw on No Captivity with Freezy, he had uh guests come up on his platform last night and there was several ones >> [music] >> uh that added very valuable uh key elements and information that came out of the courtroom because we know that uh media and camera and recording devices was not allowed into the actual courtroom. Now, there is two things that came out of that video last night. And the video didn't end to 2:30. So, forgive me if my voice is still raspy.
They It only took 30 minutes for them to convict Carmelo Anthony. 30 minutes.
Well, Tony Tuck vested up. I thought, you know, it came out that it only took three hours.
It took 30 minutes to convict him and it took the extra two hours and a half to sentence him. You hear me right? It took 30 minutes to to convict this star football athlete.
He was the captain of the team. It took them 30 minutes to convict this captain of the track team. It took 30 minutes to convict this young man by the name of Carmelo Anthony with no criminal background, no behavioral problems with a 3.7 GPA, 21 scholarships. It took them 30 minutes to get this young man 30 minutes to give this young man 35 years behind prison.
Now, I'm going to ask everybody that come across this video and that's following this case. Whatever is going on behind the bikes, be patient and give it time because the same thing that Collins County has did with this case by rushing it and being too aggressive. We don't want the appeal in court and the the next uh private attorney that the family hires and Porcelis if he's going to remain the court appointed uh attorney for the court. We want them to take their time because if they don't, if this thing is rushed the same way that Collins County rushed through this case and wrongfully, I'm going to say wrongfully convicted and overcharged this young man. We don't want this to happen in the appeal. So, I'm asking everybody in the community that's following this case to take allow everybody behind the scenes to take their time. We don't want no technicalities. We don't want no violations. We know that this is a high uh visible case. You cannot tell me based off what I'm going to show you this morning cuz I normally come on at night that the federal the federal government is not monitoring this case.
One is because we already know that evidence submitted in this trial has been manipulated and doctorred. And let me tell you one thing about this video.
Since they want us to play their games.
Since they want us to play their games.
That video that everybody saw in the courtroom, right? And we've been saying free the video. Free the video. Yeah, we still going to holler and scream, release the video, the whole entire video. But since they want us to play that game, I got some information about that video. And just off that video alone, if that is the crux of the prosecutor's case, just off that alone, that mistake, the federal government, I'm begging them to go ahead and intervene after the proper paperwork is done. Let me tell you one thing about the federal government. Even if they have not been requested to intervene officially, they can go ahead and request an informal uh submit a informal inquiry. Hey, what is going on down there in Collins County? I'm hearing that civil rights of Carmelo Anthony has been violated. I'm bringing that up because that is one condition on when the federal government can intervene.
And I'm also asking for your patience this morning. I'm not going to hold you long. I'm going to try to keep this under two hours. There's so much information and I want to make sure I don't rush through this because who knows, maybe you're going to hear something that I missed or I didn't hear. And if so, come after this video, drop it in the comments and I will address this. And to all of the new investors and viewers, thank you for all of your comments. Hey, you have requested me to go over these videos and I'm going under these videos and some of these things I have put together as a lay man. For all of the ones that say, "Oh, oh, a woman, you're just a uh armchair lawyer."
Not one time have I said that I'm a lawyer. I'm definitely not a lawyer, but I'm definitely a professional in my career. And I have been on juries before. And who knows this information that I'm going to cover for educational purposes only. Since we playing those games, educational purposes only. Who knows? I may get called to a jury two and three months down the road. You may get called to a jury two and three months down the road. And the information I'm going to cover at least it'll be reference points and hey, who knows? information that you also can use if you ever get called to be on a jury such as this. And for everybody in Texas, based off a Lisha Kesha interview with the black lawyer that's actually in Texas. I didn't get her name, but her channel is the public opinion court Texas. And I'm screaming Texas, Texas, Texas, Texas. In November, in the midterms, if you're not a registered voter or a registered voter, there's going to be three seats open for the Texas Court of Appeals. If you just go out there and vote, you can swing those three seats to be in your favor, Carmelo's Anthony favor, not based on race, but based off, let me slow down. Judges that would take their time and actually go over uh cases properly and just do their due diligence. That's what they for, right?
That's why they have licenses for, right? So, Texas, I'm going to beg you in November, if you haven't registered to vote, register to vote because you can swing those three seats. And I'm going to play that clip of that black lawyer. She said it's going to be three seats in November that the county that Texas can swing in terms of favor for this case, your case, and the next person's case. This is not about black and white. Wink wink. Okay? But this case right here, Carmelo Anthony is a political prisoner. I'm gonna say it with my chest. That's my opinion. And I'm going to say he has definitely been railroad by Collins County. So before I go into that, let me go ahead and discuss this real quick. It's only going to take three minutes to read this article and then I'm going to go ahead and start jumping into the Carmelo Anthony uh information that I've gathered. Okay. So, and so go ahead and get your notes, your drink, and your vest because we stay vested up over here. 365° at Tony Talks bested up compelling sports edge. Let me go ahead and do my due diligence for the algorithm and we're going to continue to move forward with the Carmelo Anthony. But that is the baseline. That is the baseline. Now, this is not the only lawsuit that I follow. This is the only case outside of the NFL that I cover. So, I do cover other investigations and lawsuits. So, just bear with me. Bear with me. Now, uh if you have been part of this this channel or not, the Department of Justice is already in the NFL's locker rooms and records regarding uh the pro the price gouging of all of these games that they require us to look at for the NFL. Now, you can't tell me that the Department of Justice, and I'm going to bring this home real quick. I'm going to tie the knots for you real quick. You can't tell me that the United States Department of Justice, if they're paying attention to the price gouging of the NFL and all of these screaming services, you can't tell me that the Department of Justice is not looking at this particular case going down in Collins County.
You would be a fool not to think that the Department of Justice is not already behind the scenes. May have already request formal requests, formal inquiries, uh, informal in inquiries to find out exactly what's going on in Collins County. Now, um, let me go and bring this up right here and then we'll move on to the Carmelo Anthony case, but this is for the channel. Okay. So, Sunday ticket appealing appeals ruling could come at any time. All right, the article is nsnbcports.com and I want to get to this right here.
Come to find out the Gruden case and the Brian Flores lawsuit have actually entered uh Discovery Phase. So, everybody that's followed this channel, we already know about Brian Flores and all the information that we've already covered over here. Brian Flores should go ahead immediately if the NFL is not settling behind the scenes with him regarding uh racial discrimination cuz they won't hire any black coaches, right? Uh hiring practices and all the other despicable things that we've covered over here. Brian Flores should definitely be walking away with 1 billion plus in that confidential settlement that we that that we should hear very soon by the end of this year.
Now Tony talks it up. Why do you say $1 billion plus? Because if the NFL settled with Missouri, I think it's Missouri when the LA Rams left Missouri to move to Englewood, California. If they can pay the citizens or Missouri $790 million, Brian Flores already have them by the neck because Brian Flores, let me tell you how deep it's gotten.
His first attempt or motion for discovery, and these are legal terms, so please catch note what I'm saying. His first motion for discovery was denied in 2023, right? But his second attempt for motion of discovery was granted [music] and that was I'm going to say roughly about two months ago. Now, in his first motion of discovery and his first court case, he only subpoenaed roughly four to six NFL teams. But because he kept moving forward and because his lawyers took the time, hear what I'm saying, took the time to do everything right behind the scenes.
He has gotten approval for discovery for over 1,000 documents from the NFL. And the number of teams have increased from four to six to 25 NFL teams because how they've been doing black coaches. And who knows in those documents I'm pretty sure it's in there.
It could be more information on how they do black players, black quarterbacks, and even Shador Sanders. This is not trust me. Like I said, if the Department of Justice is paying attention to the NFL regarding the Brian Flores case, the Gruden case, uh, prices regarding all of these NFL drafts and Sunday tickets, the US Department of Justice is definitely paying attention to the Carmelo Anthony case. So, there we go.
Um, and the ruling could be significant.
Two years ago, a jury found that the NFL violated the antirust laws through the pricing of Sunday tickets. This if the Department of Justice is paying attention to this, you know they paying attention to the Carmelo Anthony case.
Just hold one. Just hold one. The league's goal was to price at a level that discouraged consumers from buying it instead of watching whatever games were available in the local markets on CBS and Fox. So, if you're not uh one of my original investors and subscribers to this channel, I may be talking over your head, but this is something that I have to cover for all of my viewers, investors here and also for the algorithm. Now, this is what I want to also tell you this because I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people watching this that you love football or you know somebody that love football. The jury in the Sunday ticket case entered a $4.7 billion verdict which by law can be tripled to 14.1 billion when it is a formal judgment the judge threw out of the award but not the finding of the antirust violation. So if you have ever purchased ever purchased NFL Sunday tickets or pay for anything on streaming uh platforms, you may get a refund. But I know for sure an appeal uh a judgment or settlement or something a ruling may come down any day now regarding what the NFL has done in terms of these streaming platforms and these prices. Now let me go ahead and move into the Carmelo Anthony segment of this live.
Let's keep going.
Let's keep going.
Let me go and bring my slides up.
I want this picture right here.
I want this picture right here. I want you to focus on this picture before I actually get to my slides.
And I thank God that the my slide deck stopped right here, y'all. I want to bring up the tool that is in this case.
Yes, I'm going to say tool. It was not a knife. It is not a knife. It was a multi-tool.
There is officers that testimony that that provide testimony in the trial uh over two weeks ago that said it was a multi-tool. There was a office by the name of office uh Cortez and another officer, I didn't catch his name, that said they even use that to cut seat belts when they come upon, let's say, an accident and people are caught in the car and they need to cut seat belts or use the tool for whatever. So, let's just get this right. And I agree with everybody. Stop saying it was a knife.
It was a multi- uh utility tool. In the military, we called it a Gerber tool. We called it a Gerber tool. And I want to highlight this tool here.
This tool is not illegal. And a lot of people carry this. I went on walmart.com and you know what, Walmart, you should be ashamed of yourself. And you know how I know that this tool is exactly what was used in the case? Because before this case and it came out that this particular utility tool was used in the incident, we going to and I definitely going to stand by this in the selfdefense uh incident that Carmelo Anthony was executing that morning. He had a right to execute self-defense because he was getting jumped. Walmart before this case, this particular tool was $14.99, $17.99. Sometimes you could catch it on sale at Black Friday for $9.99. You know what the average price in Walmart right now for this tool is?
Around $37.
Some of them are $47. Some of them now is even $50. Walmart, what are you doing? I'm sorry. Wally World, what are you doing?
So there was two officers that testified that it was a utility tool in the case, not a knife. It was the prosecutor that was conducting word play in the trial by saying even though the officer said it was a utility tool, he always when in his questioning line of questioning, he always referred to a knife. He know what he was doing. He know what he was doing.
He know what he was doing. Let's keep pushing. Oh, let's talk about this. This also came out in the I think it was no captivity with frenzy uh video clips that I got.
How come the actual weapon was not shown to the jury? They shown they showed a replica of the utility knife, a utility tool, and they showed a picture of the actual weapon, right?
Tool, right? Why is that? Why is that?
So, some other viewers last night, they was confused and say, "Well, was it the real uh utility tool or not?" No, it wasn't. You know why I know it wasn't worth? Uh it wasn't the real one and Queen uh 88 and the other guests on his platform and even No Captivity with Freezy. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for allowing these guests to come on your platform. They didn't have to say nothing else when they said this right here. when they said that the prosecutor because they was like, "Well, was it the real one or was it a picture?" It it was all that minus the real tool. They said that the prosecutor and I knew this was like, "Yeah, this ain't the real tool."
They said that the prosecutor when he reached into the bag to pull out the replica, I knew right then and there it wasn't the real one. So, where is the real tool? why they're not showing the real tool. Why? And y'all, I got evidence the actual real tool. I think y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all um for those that that's just following me, you you may not know my background, but um it there is a college course and you can take this course also in technical schools, right? It's called forensics biology.
Forensics biology, right? [music] And I got something also for the ones that may feel that Collins County may doctor up the the actual footage with AI. There is something in cyber security called mobile forensics.
Mobile [music] forensics.
Please catch down what I'm putting out.
Please. I'm dropping so many jewels in three and four different professions this morning. There is something called mobile forensics and I'm going to leave it right there.
So you don't have to worry about if the the the actual video is doctorred. The United States government, they have technology where they can run that video through whatever software and it can tell if it's been doctorred. Listen, I don't want to hear from Collins County when the federal government gets involved formally or informal that the video has disappeared. I want to hear that. Or accidentally erased. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that. Collins County, because you was too aggressive in this case and you had the aggression against Carmelo Anthony for whatever reason, you are messed up.
you have definitely messed up. If you was not on the federal government uh radar before this case, you're definitely on the federalist government radar now. That's why you can't tell me that the federal government, the US uh Department of Justice is not monitoring this case right here. So now I pause right there.
I'mma pause right there.
Let me go ahead and tell you why I know they're watching.
Matter of fact, this case is too big.
The case is just too big for them not to monitor. Right. Let's see. Let's go right here. Let's go and start this first uh video right here while I get to my actual slides.
So, if they going back to what I said in the preloop, if they want to play the game about the video, right, the blurry video, I know y'all seen this video uh from Cody Thompson. Now, Cody Thompson, I didn't want to hear it because I'm like, huh, I know you ain't see the right tape, but I said, you know, I had to put my emotions to the side and I said, just sit back and listen. If you let them sit back and if you just sit back and let them talk, any of them talk, they'll start telling on themselves or they just start telling information that they probably didn't want to get out there. But let's go ahead since they said there's not another video and that we should only focus on the video that the jury saw. Let's go ahead and hear what Cody Thompson said, who is I'm going to say a media uh representative connected with Court TV. Let's just hear uh what he said. And also, let's just hear I didn't catch his last name. His first name is Vince. Well, I didn't know Vince was a prior prosecutor. So, let's just see how this conversation started in this 1hour video. No, I don't have the 1-hour video. I think I only have maybe uh three important clips. So, I got important clips from Court TV. I got important clips from Lakesha uh Lkesha Kesha channel with the black uh attorney out of Texas. And I got clips from uh No Captivity with Freezy. Okay. So, let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. Come on up to the stage of the courtroom. The evidence hasn't been released. So the public is going by what people are saying and a lot of people people out there with an with an agenda on both sides who can describe what they believe they saw. Uh Cody, you have no agenda other than telling us what you saw and what you observed. So, why don't you describe for us what you saw when the video was played and what was testified to about that video because this is an important piece of evidence and you know, you've got people saying that it's very clear in the video what happened here.
>> Yeah. Well, I mean, this is is the most important piece of evidence.
>> Now, listen to that. People are saying it's clear what happened in the video.
No, no, no, no, no, no. If they want us to play this game, if they want us to only focus on this video, let's see what Cody Thompson said about the video. Come on, Cody.
>> It's kind of the crux of the whole case here. But the thing about this video, Vinnie, and the prosecutors admitted this before it was presented while that forensic uh video analyst was on the stand is that the video is not the [music] best quality. Really, >> first of all, it's one of those, you know, how a football stadium is set up and you have the big tall light post to light the whole stadium. It seems like it's a camera on one of those light posts on the opposite side from where everything's going down. So, when it's when it's zoomed out, it looks pretty good quality. But when you have to zoom all the way in like this on a little blip, you know, you're going to lose a lot of pixelation there. You're going to it's going to be really grainy. So, they zoomed in and, you know, now it looks like video you see like a 7-Eleven. It's real grainy. You can kind of make out what's going on. You can see the yellow memorial tent, but uh again, they admitted there's no real distinguishables here. You're not seeing facial features. You're not seeing the logos of brands on clothing. So, it's just a low quality video, but you see at one point in time, you see in the bleachers, you see the the yellow tent.
It's kind of the center center mass of the video.
>> And then they zoom out just a tad. So, you can see Carmemelllo come up out of what's like the tunnel of the bleachers.
You know, when you come up and you go sit around, he's coming up from under there. You see him coming in. He stands there for a few seconds [music] and then he's walking towards this direction. So the the the the tent's right here. He's walking towards the tent here. He's there at the tent for around 2 minutes.
Then eventually you see Austin Metaf and his three or four friends who were walking from the middle school where they were visiting their coach uh for a little bit that morning. They're walking from the opposite direction. So Carmemella's here for 2 minutes. They get there and then the whole ordeal goes down in like 4 and 1 half to 5 minutes.
But under the tent, you got to remember there's a whole team under this tent.
You can't see rainfall. All you see is there's people under a tent. They look like these humanoid blobs. You can tell they're they're, you know, human beings, but it's just a bunch of masses, right?
There's no you're not looking at who's sitting down, who's standing up, especially if they're in intermixed in there. You know, maybe if they're at the front, you can see if they're sitting on the bleaches, but all in the crowd, you can't really see much of anything. And then what the uh media analyst highlights at one point in time, you see kind of one of these darker figures.
There's like a there's like a jolt and so they're saying that was kind of like the push and then right after that little jolt you see everyone disperse and then of course they spot shadow.
This was Carmelo cuz the other uh I'm sure Memorial's uh team was in some dark gear cuz Carmelo had on a a gray hoodie type situation. So he was in lighter clothing. Uh then you see him run off and they spotlight they spot shadow him and then you just see a bunch of dispersement. There was no you know you don't see two hands one hand sitting down two people towering over. There's not really any real identifiables other than there's memorial tent. Here's a bunch of people under there. This is what they say was a little jolt. What was the push? And then a bunch of dispersement. That's all you really see.
So So [clears throat] hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up. Back up.
Since they want us to play this game and say that we only need to just focus on the video that was given to the jury.
And Cody Thompson, he's unbiased. He don't has any what they say skin in the game. Well, according to Cody Thompson, he says in the beginning of the video, it's wide shot. You can see everything crystal clear. But then you might as well says Collins County, they distorted the video. Not my account. This is this is Cody Thompson's account. They distorted the video where they zoomed in where you can only see human blobs.
Hold on. You mean to tell me? You mean to tell me that Collins County wrongfully convicted this young man and sentenced him to 35 years because of human blobs that you couldn't tell who was who or who did what. Now, we already heard the accounts of the actual people that saw the video, but today is for this live, we're going to play their game, and they want us to just focus on this particular video that was played in the courtroom. Bet, I got you. So, you mean to tell me that the Collins County jury convicted Carmela Anthony off of seeing human blobs in the videos. And and hold on. He said, "And then the the camera zoomed out a little bit where you can tell that it was Carmelo and Anthony come from one way and the and the and the Mad Cat boys come another way and then the camera zooms back in where you can't distinguish nothing.
Nothing.
Mike Howard, Mike Howard, is this what you let the prosecutor and I'm focus on you today.
Is this what you let the prosecutor and the judge get over with in the courtroom? And y'all, let me only tell you this because you may be at working today or you may not have time to stay with this live, but guess who was it that after Carmelo Anthony was sentenced? I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
After he was found guilty, a guilty verdict was rendered. Guess who stood up and asked the judge for immediate sentencing? According to the witnesses that was in the courtroom, guess who asked for immediate sentencing after the guilty verdict was rendered?
It was Mike Howard.
It was Carmelo's Anthony, defense lawyer. There's going to be another clip where Vince is going to talk to, I'm going to say a very famous appeal judge.
His name, his name is uh Bill Wiser or whatever. I'll show you video. And he's saying that should have never happened.
You know that judge, you know what that judge is going to say? He said, "I never even heard of a Mike Howard." He said, "I don't even know nothing about it."
What? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You mean somebody suggested to the Carmelo Anony's family for a judge that may No, for a defense attorney that may not have been Well, we already know that he was ineffective counsel that may not have been equipped to proceed or defend Carmelo Anthony in this case. No, no, no. Let's keep playing. Let's keep playing. But but since they want us to play the game regarding the video, that was Cody's uh Thomas account of the video. Now, let's go ahead and hear what Vincent is going to say to Cody because Vincent was a prosecutor. Right now, he's a prosecutor. Let's keep going.
Let's keep going. And I want to let you know what's going on. It is called video editing, which is against the law. It is called doctoring footage or a doctor video against the law. It was intentionally altered to uh mislead the jury. It also is called a video manipulation, misleading of evidence, misleading of editing, selective eving editing because they didn't show the whole entire 11 minute video that all the other people before the video was suppress uh suppressed and sealed. They said the video they had an option to watch the two-minute video or the 11minute video. Okay, let's keep going.
And also it's called tampering with evidence. Why? Why was there a moment of zooming in, zooming out, zooming in, and zooming out instead of just letting it play? Instead of just letting it play, the witnesses said that the video was either in 4K or 5K. Y'all heard Miss Daisy's uh account of the video that she saw. And according to him, it was clear before they zoomed all the way in and all the subjects in the video were human blobs. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. Let's keep going.
Sometimes, and I've seen this in trials, you go through a video and you may play it for different witnesses who were there and then they having been there looking at the video can kind of describe to you what's happening. Did any of that take place to try to clarify exactly what is going on and whether or not Carmelo Anthony is surrounded, whether or not um you know a physical confrontation is it's you can really tell how forceful the physical confrontation initially is.
>> I mean in in a in a very minor capacity, Vinnie, I mean because you got to remember all of these students that testified under the state said there was no sort of surrounding that was happening. It was described as, you know, this kind of one onone thing. And, you know, actually in the closing arguments, uh, the prosecutor was saying, you know, they're trying to say the two brothers or all these multiple people were jumping on him, but on the body cam with, uh, the [clears throat] video once he was apprehended, he was saying, "I told him not to put his hands on me, not I told they not to put their hands on me." So, that was a big that was a big deal in the closing arguments.
But, there was one student that got up there who was um, actually on the field warming up. And so you saw an angle of, you know, a couple of kids on the field and you saw the angle of of where the the tent was. And what they were trying to do there is kind of talk about how this student's timeline of when he walked over and and and saw the commotion just didn't add up and trying to like, you know, kind of discredit his credibility a little bit. But no students were sitting there saying, "Yeah, that was me. You see me walking there and then you see this push. You see this person uh to the left and they're moving up the bleachers." There was none of that real specificity other than that one student on the field just to show that his times weren't lining up when he said he walked over there because they show that he didn't walk at all when the moment of the stabbing happened.
>> So, so none of the witnesses who testified, right? Some some of the people that were there didn't testify, but the ones who were called and testified that were under the tent, near the tent, all this, none of them could specifically identify themselves in that video.
>> No. Yo, this is how bad the video was.
And let me tell you one thing. Uh Kesha, uh here I I don't know. So just relax.
Just relax. If you don't want to be here, uh please exit the room. This is for a mature audience only and for educational purposes only. So did you just hear him say or he's about to say that none of the witnesses could even identify themselves? So, you mean to tell me that this is the video? Since they want us to play that game, this is the video that they convicted this young man on. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. No, there's one that cuz he was kind of off to the side.
We're talking under the tent right now where the where the commotion comes up.
And then there's one kid that said, "You see me coming over here." But he was very isolated. You know what I It was that he had nothing really to do with the the situation happening under the tent, which is, you know, why we were here [laughter] in in the first place.
Other than that, none of them were saying that's me. You see me over here.
You see this is Carmelo right there.
There are the Metaf brothers. The only thing that was really identifiable was when the forensic media analyst showed Carmelo walking to the tent and then showed the Austin Metaf and the other boys walking to the tent. Once things got to the tent, it was just >> That's a crowd of people. You can't really tell what they're doing. You can't really tell that there's violence or if it's it's horse playing or if it's just people standing in a crowd. You can't really tell anything until they highlighted that little I'm talking they zoomed in real hard just to see this little like that and they were saying that's the push. And then 3 or 4 seconds after that is when all the you know you see kids running and all every which way you see Carmelo run three or four bleachers up and you know that's where the knife was found. About three or four bleachers up from uh where the stabbing happened and you see him run down and he's running towards the track and they zoom out and they show him just running near the fence line. But other than that, no one's sitting there saying that's me. I was here. It was just their account of what was going on but not related to the video because we only watched the video at the beginning of the trial before some of these witnesses took the stand. the video was not played with every single witness. What? You know what I mean? So, it wasn't that wasn't the uh >> the crux of the direct examination by the state once those student eyewitnesses took the stand.
>> Okay. So, did the defense use the video that way at all? Did the defense show the video to the jury either during argument or during a a direct cross of their own witness or another witness and say, "This is where [music] Carmelo is surrounded."
>> They didn't do that at all. And you know, there's been a lot of criticism regarding the defense of Carmelo Anthony here with, you know, six witnesses. Uh, a couple of student witnesses, one of those student witnesses that actually admitted that he believed Carmemelllo was the aggressor, a defense witness saying that, but the defense didn't use the the video in any capacity, which, you know, they didn't do that. They didn't explain even why he had a knife in the first place, which I thought that was something they would try to try to harp on a little bit, just saying, you know, you had it because he liked to go camping. He had it because, you know, you had to cut nylon if you're setting up the tent. They didn't even touch on why the knife was even there in the first place. There was seemed like a lot of missed opportunities and holes in the defense's case and especially after they ended somewhat abruptly. But to your point, Vinnie, the video was not shown uh during the defense's case in any capacity. And did they have any witness either through their cross-examination or the direct examination of their own witnesses >> who described >> Carmelo Anthony being surrounded or being confronted by a >> So, we've heard enough of that particular uh segment cuz as like I said, I don't want to keep you forever, but I just want to say if they want us to focus on the video that was showed to the jury, he was in the courtroom. He's a media uh analyst. I'm going to call him an analyst. I'm gonna give him a proper title without knowing his pro his uh title. But is that what they convicted Carmelo Anthony over? Blurred footage that was doctorred [music] and edited and tampering with evidence. Why?
They just didn't. So this is a for all the trolls in the room and for everybody that wanted us to look at and consider the video that was played in the court room. So if the video started like this, why did they even have to do this and distort the video pixels?
Really?
Let's go ahead and go to the next one.
Now, in this video here, I know you're probably saying, "Well, he was jumped.
It was several boys." I didn't call out these particular terminologies for no reason. Video video editing, doctor video, video manipulation, misleading uh editing, selective editing, fabrication, and temporary evidence. We've heard so many people said it was multiple boys that confronted and jumped on Carmelo Anthony. You know what they did?
They removed them from the video that was shown in the jury because you know why I say that? No assumption. He just said the video only showed one person.
One person confronting Carmelo Anthony.
Hey I really don't even have to say nothing else, but let's go ahead and let's see what he said. The conversation that I think he had with the judge in Texas, the appealing judge in Texas.
Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. Since they want us to consider what the jury was given, let's play the game, right? Because this young man's freedom, which is not a game, is on the line. Carmelo Anthony had a bright future. He did everything right in America as a citizen, black or white.
And I see your comments in the chats. I never made it a race issue. Collins [laughter] County made it a race issue.
So, let's move forward. And yes, thank you, Vesta. I did hear that the judge on the case just quit. I brought that up at the beginning of the live. I have not confirmed that. But I'm also getting I'm also getting information that is true, but I'm waiting for the official headlines to come out. Uh suspension and disbarment is two different things. It was not fraud. Let's see here, [snorts] right? Why not show the actual tool? You know why? I I know why. Hold on. I I know where I'm at. right here. Hold on.
Hold on. Come on. Where I'm at? Hold on.
That's the judge. One second. One second. You know why? Because this right here and I'm gonna go over this. You see this block right here?
>> I went to uh shout outs to Jaguar, right? Uh I don't know what video this was. And I hope I'm not yelling in your ear. So, let me go ahead and turn on the microphone because I do have a a strong voice sometimes. If look in that block right there that I put that block when I read this uh video, right? I'm going say I read this uh screenshots of the police statements that was taking over a year.
So, let me go ahead and blow this up uh so you can actually probably see the dates of the documents at the top. Let me go to the bottom. Let me go to the bottom. Thank you, Jack. Right. Look at the date of the police report. And you know why they didn't show? This [clears throat] is my opinion. This is my layman's opin opinion. The reason why they did not show the actual tool in court, let me pull my slides up and continue to read the neck block. you're going to read that when one of the officers got to the scene and instead of uh bringing uh plastic bags and he can say, "Oh, well, it was because of the rain and I had to hurry up and I had to uh cover the evidence and the crime scene."
Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Gotcha. But I think the reason why they did not show or they're not showing or did not bring up the actual uh weapon because hell, believe it or not, Mike Howard wasn't going to object to anything so they actually could have brought it. But I'm going to this because they covered they covered the weapon with a tarp. What if the tarp had somebody else fingerprints on it or some other uh let's say material that cross contaminated the weapon?
Now, if Mike Howard would have did his job, and like I said, this is on you, Mike Howard, you should have said, "No, please bring forth or uh please uh go ahead." What's the terminology that they using in the courtroom? Uh, exhibit A, exhibit B, or whatever the case may be.
I'm hearing that they had almost 100 exhibits and Mike Howard sit there and ejected to nothing. He sat there and ejected to nothing.
Mike Howard let this young boy got railroad and you was the one that said, "Judge, can we go into immediate citizen?" Mike Howard. Mike Howard. And you mean to tell me that the United States uh justice, Department of Justice is not in looking at this case, but we're going to keep moving forward. But this is why I think that the weapon was not uh uh admissible or brought to court because it could have been some crosscontamination when they laid that tarp over the knife. And y'all guess what I think also in this particular screenshot cuz I got more screenshots.
They said they used Carmelo's Anthony book bag to hold down the tarp.
Listen, uh, officers, I totally understand you was in a rush job, but good lord, you couldn't have you you couldn't uh put your body weight on the tarp and have one of your compadres or your co-workers go to the car to actually go get the tool kit that you have in the car regarding gloves and plastic bags.
You let a tarp lay over the weapon and then you use the book bag to actually hold the tarp in place. What are we doing in Collins County? What are we doing? What are we doing in Collins County? But hey, [laughter] he going to say I did the best that I can uh in that situation. Okay, but that's my uh that's my opinion on why they actually didn't show the actual weapon because if Mike Howard would have did a job, he would have said, "Hey, what did forensics say about the weapon?
Now, I'mma move forward. Now, let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. Take a screenshot of that. Take a screenshot of that. Take a screenshot of that. I'mma try to get you out of here.
Let's go ahead to the next clip.
>> So, I was a little surprised when I found out that the judge from the Carmelo Anthony case granted a TV interview. He did an interview with WFAA.
spoke about a lot of things, but there was one thing that um really caught my attention. Um again, this is a TV interview. We have the audio. Let's take a listen.
>> I have seen from other cases around the country where cameras in the courtroom changed the way that the judge acted, uh the lawyers acted, some of the witnesses acted, and we were not going to have that here. We were going to really isolate um the purpose for which we were here for, which is to have that fair trial. uh and cameras in the courtroom did not enter into that equation [music] uh at all.
>> Objection.
Judge arguing facts not in evidence.
>> You know, if you're a judge and a camera's in your courtroom and it changes the way you judge, that's your problem. That's not the problem with transparency.
That's that's a problem with the judge.
If a lawyer does anything other than try their case because the camera's in there, that's their problem.
That's their mistake. That's their inability to be professional.
>> Um, but I'm surprised a couple All right. The judge didn't want cameras in the courtroom. I get it. We We're going to talk about that and I always talk about that. But he gave an interview about a case that just ended like just ended. Is this normal? Is this what always happens? You know, every state in our union has their own little set of local rules and practices and ethics, etc. So, um, I didn't practice in Texas.
So, I've got to bring in one of Texas's best a criminal defense attorney, special prosecutor, and probably the best criminal appellet attorney in the state of Texas. My >> This is about to be good, y'all. Just hold one. Be patient.
>> Brian Weiss, who uh I've probably known you longer than any other guest in the history of all my years at Court TV.
Ryan, >> you know what I found doing what we do is never to argue with the host and kind of suck up. So, yeah, Vinnie, you you couldn't be more correct. Look, you and I have have known each other longer than most people have been married.
Certainly, most of the people that you and I know been on the air with. Um, couple of quick takes. Number one, I I I I know Judge Roach. I met Judge Roach when I was a special prosecutor in the Ken Paxton case, investigating and prosecuting the attorney general. now Republican nominee for junior senator because that all happened initially out of the Colin County courthouse where this trial was and I heard nothing but good things about Judge Roach and maybe even met him in the seminar. But number one, I when I talk >> he [clears throat] said but so that means that he know of Judge Roach. But he said, "But y'all listen to what he about to say about Judge Roach."
>> To judges and lawyers and prosecutors at at seminars about dealing with the media. It's one thing for a prosecutor or a defense attorney to go on the air.
I don't think there should ever be a case where a judge, a guy that calls balls and strikes and and and wears the dress and everything could go on the air unless it's in some educational capacity. And I know what this judge's clip was.
>> Let me tell you one thing. I see your comment and I will never ever give you the attention that you're seeking in this room. [music] But let me tell you one thing. If you think I'm such a what you say, a a mama, baby, I'm one of the most educated aunt mamas that this world has ever seen. And trust me, if I could cook pancakes in my kitchen, just imagine what I could have did if I had a law degree in the right places. But that's okay. I don't need a law degree because this right here is common sense.
And the damage that I'm doing behind this video and this camera and this microphone is going to be so damaging because common sense is wrapped into this right here. So go ahead with your comments. Matter of fact, uh, mods, don't block none of them. Let them go crazy because they gonna have to when the news come out regarding this case and when the federal government comes in and take this case or if a special prosecutor or a special investigator or when this appeal is granted and either this case is thrown out or retried, just remember you became one. You had first of all, you had to become a subscriber to Tony Talks Vested Up to even get your comments in here. So, let them breathe today. Let them breathe. But they won't get the attention on this channel. Let's move forward and see what this judge says. Huh? So, if you call me that, what you going to call this judge that's about to eat up Judge Roach and his whole proceedings on this case? And that's my disclaimer. And that's my disclaimer.
>> Was not particularly incendiary. That's the other take. I could not disagree with him more. And again, I think Vinnie, you and I, you know, are cut from the same cloth because we're old Court TVs back in in 93 and 94. And and and you make a great point, not just to suck up. If you as a judge, if you as a jurist are in any way, shape, or form impacted or affected by the fact that there's a camera, which is so unintrusive that I found people forget about it in the first 90 seconds, then you should not be behind home plate in game seven of the World Series. You ought to be working at Chick-fil-A. The other thing is that if you are going to let witnesses or advocates play to the camera and and again you know the the three most cliched things in America, French cuisine, Notre Dame football and lawyers playing to the camera.
Nonsensical at best.
>> It is. You're not playing to the camera.
You're playing to the jury. Like the lawyers are playing to the jury. The jury makes the decision. The jury decides whether they win or lose. That's who they play to. I mean, I've covered like this isn't the first high-profile.
>> So, just to give you a summary of this, the reason why uh Judge John Ro said that he didn't want the cameras in the room is because basically he wouldn't be able to uh litigate or the lawyers wouldn't be able to litigate the way that they should. He wouldn't be able to uh judge and render a verdict the way that he wanted to. And the juries wouldn't be able to uh how can I say it?
View the evidence the way that he wanted to. So, he removed the transparency out of the courtroom. So, basically, they can do whatever they want to do. Hey, listen. Hey, hey, hey. To all the trolls and all the the races in the rooms that want to come in here with that racist dispute, uh, please look at the demographics of the two men on the camera.
Please, uh, this is a prior prosecutor. uh demographics is a white male and this is a current or prior very well known in Texas. Uh his demographics also is an appellet uh uh judge and and oh my gosh what what are we talking about? Even if we take race off the table and matter of fact he the judge the judge is going to bring up the appealing judge is going to bring up the the baston ruling that talks about race. the judge going to do that. Come on, Tony Talks. Play it. Here we go. Here we go. [music] >> Case that we've covered through the years. You know, there's another one that had sort of the the racial tension that this one had uh involving a victim named George Floyd. And the judge in that case, Judge Cahill, had the state of Minnesota had never had a camera in a courtroom, but Judge Cahill was smart enough knowing that that case for that community and for the nation um was important for the nation to see the evidence and hear it so they could understand the verdict and understand the way the evidence went in. And whatever you believed about the evidence in the case, um the bottom line was prosecutors won that case. Their expert was amazing. The defense expert was meh.
And that made a huge difference in the case. And that's what the transparency showed. And if you don't agree with it, you have a basis to not agree with it because you get to see and hear everything. Um, will this be a problem?
The fact that the judge spoke about a trial right after my my father was a federal judge. Um, and you know, the rules were you don't talk about any case. You don't talk about any case that still is open to motions and appeals, etc. Judge Belvin Perry in the uh that case down in Florida involving Kaye Marie Anthony, the victim.
>> Um he spoke after he retired and that was a case where it was a not-uilty verdict, so there were no appeals, right? So, so what are your thoughts there? Is that going to be any sort of a a lingering issue potentially or or nothing? [music] It's just more of uh you know, he decided to do it. Maybe he wasn't in the best uh best taste, but he did it anyway.
>> I agree. I think # you know, rookie mistake in the paniply of potential legal issues that this case involves, and there are a couple of good ones.
>> We're going to talk about those in a minute. But how about this one, though?
>> Not not at all. It it was an innocuous what 45 second bite that had nothing to do with the merits that that did not call into question the judge's impartiality because in addition to talking to lawyers and judges and prosecutors all throughout the country on on dealing with the media, one of the other things that I've kind of become like you know the expert on and you know remember what Mark Twain said about experts you know experts just some guy from out of town um is is trial court recusal and you know what will get you bounced you >> [laughter] >> quicker than anything I can think of and and going on the air and and talking about a pending case or an issue even likely to come before you. One of the the cases that I talk about was unfortunately an incredibly tragic case uh the Oklahoma City bombing case and the first federal judge assigned to that case decided that he was going to go on Night Line, a a program back in the day that was a pretty big deal with with Ted CPP and I think most members of this gen like Night Line. like a nightlight and the judge ended up getting recused. Why?
Because he evinced a take, if you will, that while not directly impacting a bias or prejudice, certainly in the minds of a member of the public, and this is what the test is, whether a reasonable member of the public on, you know, 6th Avenue between 52nd and 53rd, knowing all the facts and circumstances, would have a reasonable doubt about that judge's ability to be fair. Now, Judge Roach's clip, no big deal, would not as his concetti have advised him to to do that. But so what?
>> Well, so let's get back then to the >> Okay, so that was the end of that clip.
I should have warned you. He was a little bit wordy uh before he got to that part. But he's talking about the clip. He mustn't see the whole entire video regarding the judge. But I'm about to play the next clip where he's going to cover a little bit more. Now I think based off what the judge has said, of course I have pre uh reviewed I have reviewed what he said in this particular video. Um I think John John Roach he did that interview on purpose to recuse himself from the retrial for whatever reasons but he definitely did that to recuse himself for the next trial. But um Honorable Judge John Roach, see I didn't disrespect your title. It don't matter if you retire.
Rumors is he has retired. It doesn't matter if you uh have you did this interview to recuse yourself from the next trial. It doesn't matter. you will still and can still get subpoenaed for the next trial based off everything that you said in this clip and the whole entire interview. Uh if the next defense attorney uh federal attorney do their job, you should also get subpoena too, sir. See how I respected him and his title.
Now, let's keep going.
Let's keep going. Let's keep going. This the last one here.
>> Convicted of murder. You're sentenced to 35 years. You probably want to see if you can get a new trial, a second look, a second chance at all this. Um, so Brian Weiss, you're an appellet expert as well, and that's, you know, anytime I have a question about Texas law, you're on speed dial. I don't know if I still have speed dial, but if if I still had speed dial, you'd be on it.
Let me start with the first issue that I was shocked by and and again I didn't get to actually see the testimony because the judge did not allow us to see it. Um but the reporting was is that each witness eyewitness kind of finished their testimony by saying this was not self-defense.
>> Is that okay? Because I thought that's what the trial was about and I thought that was the question that the jury had to answer whether or not it was self-defense.
can lay witnesses in their testimony >> tell the jury in their own opinion that it was not self-defense.
>> The short answer is they're not supposed to. And and this is one of the ironies or oddities, if you will, about the criminal justice system. The only kind of criminal case where a lay person can give the ultimate opinion as to guilt or innocence is of all things a DWI case or DUI as they say in some states because everybody [clears throat] knows what intoxication is.
Self-defense is a question of law that ultimately the jury decides based on the facts. Now, a witness can testify. You can't, you know, I don't think you should be able to answer a a shove with a stab like Bill Worski so able >> argued or you could say that I believe that uh Carmemelllo Anthony had an opportunity to retreat. That is to leave the tent. But I was shocked that these lay witnesses, if you will, were permitted to testify to the ultimate legal conclusion. That's an issue. But but it's interesting because I thought the issue that I thought you were going to lead with is the Batson claim.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, all right. Well, I know you want to go there. So, so, but let's just start here. Is So, is that a big deal? The fact that the witnesses said this was not self-defense. 0 to 10. Just give it a number how big of a deal it is.
>> Seven.
>> On its own on the merits, it it could be a seven.
>> But if I could just kind of throw something in >> that I think your your viewers would would want to know about the appellet process. Appellet courts don't sit to review questions of guilt or innocence.
They review whether or not the trial was fundamentally fair based on legal rulings that that the court made. And there's something called the harmless error rule. And that's because nobody's perfect. We recruit all the participants, the judge, the prosecutor, the defense lawyer, the witnesses, the cops from the human race, which means there's going to be human error. And so there are going to be mistakes. And because the constitution doesn't entitle you, not even in New Jersey, to a perfect trial, you're entitled to a fair one. So, I believe that while that could be classified as a legal mistake, what we call error, E R Y, um, an appellet court could find that based on the allegedly overwhelming evidence that it didn't impact the outcome of the proceeding. But, again, that's that's a potential issue. Make no mistake.
>> I I thought it was a big issue because it wasn't just one witness. It was like witness after witness after witness. All right, let's get to what you you thought my lead was going to be. Okay.
>> And and I was debating between the two.
Uh the appellent judge just said uh [clears throat] cuz you know he knows John wrote so he don't want to say yes that is definitely a major issue but he did label that a number seven out of 10 right. Ooh. Okay. And the prosecutor, uh, this man here, this this this man here with the red background, he used to be a prosecutor. And he said that was a major issue. They know they shouldn't have asked. No. 17year kids. Did they think that it was murder or self-defense? We're talking about kids.
Uh, prosecutor uh, Bill Wise, is that what your name was? why you didn't bring in an expert uh to determine or say if it was murder or self-defense. Y'all already know why he didn't bring in no experts. And uh if that was despicable, come to find out, Mike Howard brought in no expert witness for Carmelo Anthony.
Wow. And guess what? this judge uh for all of the racist folks in here that um say that hey, we're making it all about race. Uh once again, look at the demographics. Look at the demographics.
The the judge, the appellent judge with the red tie, he he's going to say something about Mike Howard at the end of this clip. And let me go and play this so you can hear what he said about what Mike Howard did to this family and Carmelo Anthony. Come on, Tony. Let's go. Let's go.
>> Uh the fact that there were no black jurors and you talked about bats and challenges. Let's let's talk about that.
What what's going on there? Is that a real issue in this case at the appellet level?
>> That is, as we say in in journalism, that's the lead that you don't want to bury. Uh and I >> that's the lead you don't want to bury.
Uhoh.
Collins County got too aggressive and messed up. Let's get going. know that enough of your viewers have probably binge watched Law and Order or seen you on the air talking about what Batson is, but but Batson comes from, I believe, a 1984 Supreme Court case called Batson versus Kentucky and that has been modified over the years that essentially says that while a prosecutor can exercise as many challenges for cause as he or she can, that is based on a juror's inability to follow the law, they can only exercise their parent challenges for reasons that are not related to race or for any racial reason or for any racial pretext. So what in essence this case presents as I understand it because again I followed it but I followed it on you know this device right here um is that there were three black potential jurors what we call veneer members in Texas who were struck by the prosecutor permpterally meaning for no reason at all is is based on their 10 that both sides get in Texas and a felony and once the defendant in this case Mr. Anthony Mr. Anony's lawyers make what we call the promacial case. Judge, um, on the record, outside the jury's presence, now that the juryy's seated, I want to note for the record there are no African-American jurors. I want the court to note for the record that the prosecutor exercised x number of challenges on on black jurors. At that point, the court will say, "Fine, the defendant has made a primacy case. Mr. Worki, uh, I want you to tell the court for the record why you struck those black jurors." And my understanding is that they were struck because I think they were not necessarily teachers but educators >> who might have felt sympathy for a 17-year-old kid if they're around 17-year-old kids all the time. Now, once that happens, the prosecution has initially rebutted that claim that you used your challenges improperly. It's then incumbent upon the defense attorney. And this is where it's tricky.
You have to show that [laughter] potential jurors veneer members who were similarly situated to these three black educators who were struck were not struck and they were white. So my understanding is that there were white veneer members who may have been teachers or educators who were not struck. If that's the only reason I love that issue. Uh >> that's that's a home run, right? So, you have black teachers, white teachers.
Prosecutors get rid of the black teachers, but don't get rid of the white teachers. And then all of a sudden, their reasoning for getting rid of uh the potential black jurors kind of falls by the wayside because you didn't everything else is the same.
>> Exactly.
>> Right. And and the word that we use, you use the legal expression falling apart, which which I like is called a pretext.
Uh that basically this is, you know, BS and I have one.
>> All right. Zero to 10. Give me a number because I have one more ratio I want to get.
>> Here we go.
>> Oh, um, eight or nine.
>> That's >> okay. So, that's a big one. That's a big one. All right. The final one. Everyone talks about this all the time.
>> So, just a summary that Bastion rule when he struck down all the black juries uh quote unquote because there was educators or uh teachers and they felt that they could have a bias uh against Carmelo Anthony. uh when they allow the white teacher educator in.
Oh, one of the biggest mistakes ever they ever could have did. Huge mistake.
Severe mistake. [music] Collins County, you won't notice. Now, let's go ahead and let the good judge since they they said take emotions out of it. Uh listen to the court. Listen.
Don't listen to social media personnel.
Listen to lawyers and judges appealing judges and people that belongs in this actually licensed were prosecutors and now they're doing uh social media such as Good Vince Hill, he was a prosecutor. And this young man right here, yeah, that young man right here, he's still practicing uh appeal uh law. I'm going to mess up those words.
Law in taxes. So, if they wanted us to focus on the legalities of this of this case, I have already punched holes in their videos just off of uh knowledge that I gained in college. And I'm not even a defense deterter. Uh uh uh CSI. Hey, I want y'all to catch this this name right here in those reports. In another report right here, CSI Dillot with Collins County. CSI Dillard. I bring up his name because I saw his name in a police statement where he uh confiscated uh the clothing of Austin Madav at the hospital. Him and his office in Collins County or wherever he's from. CSI Dillard, no first name. Dillard, uh where is the knife? Did you run forensics on the knife?
Was it multiple sets of prints on the knife? And also, y'all, guess what? That could be another reason [music] why they didn't uh uh uh show the knife because fingerprints should have been in question or materials, questionable uh uh questionable material. What could have been on the knife? And and what if it was uh several fingerprints on the knife?
On the knife. And y'all, there is a document that I got in my possession. I I got to look for it, but it says that the knife, and this is true, the police officer put in there that the knife was not fully open.
A police a police officer wrote and document in his own uh police record and statements that the knife was not fully open. I'm going to go to a next uh slide. and why this good judge continued to talk for all the racist people in the room. Come on, judge. Come on, judge.
>> I know lawyers some lawyers like don't like it. Ineffective assistance and counsel. [laughter] >> I do. Look at you.
>> Listen, you know, my dad used to say when I would when I would answer a question, >> you didn't think I could answer. Say, you just look like you don't know anything. Well, Vinnie Kamasto, I I thought that was beyond your your your keen, as we say. That's a great question. Um, and this is why I have done as an appellet lawyer and postconviction writ lawyer over four and a half decades a bunch of ineffective assistance motions for new trial, direct appeals and postconviction rates, including a death penalty case that I won 20 years ago in the fifth circuit court of appeals.
>> Um, let me tell you what the problem is.
is that lawyers like me who involve themselves in ineffective assistance cases are basically uh like internal affairs like the shoe flies, the RAD squad. Why? Because >> what you're doing is you're claiming that defense attorneys are morons, prosecutors are cheaters, and judges are in aranguses. And as you can tell, I can tell by that Jersey Smirk is going to make you a widely popular guy. you're going to be as popular as as you know P.
did he and and so it's a very touchy subject particularly one high-profile case two racial element three I don't know about the lead lawyer this guy named Mike Howard who we can talk about in a minute what >> but second chair council is a guy who I know who I've lectured with who I put on CLA is a guy named Toby Shook and when he was a prosecutor >> uh uh uh just mind you uh he said he don't know that much about Mike Howard so where did Mike Howard come from he said he don't know nothing about Mike Howard He's been in Texas over 40 years.
He just said, "I really don't want that much." about Mike Howard and Toby Shook or Shook, however you pronounce his name, uh, if y'all don't know, he's actually, if you were old enough to remember the James Bird case that happened in Jasper County, why Carmelo Anthony wasn't between Mike Howard, who was acting more as the uh, executor because he brought up immediate s sentencing after the verdict was rendered.
and Carmelo Anthony was sitting was sitting beside Toby Shook who actually got off the white uh defendants uh that did that to James Bird in Jasper, Texas over 20 20 plus years ago. Carmelo Anthony was sitting between ineffective counsel from Mike Howard who this this judge don't even know of and he's been in Texas for 40 years and the same uh uh defense attorney that fought for and got acquitted. Those two I'm sorry, let me remove race. those two gentlemen that drug James Bird behind that truck in Jasper County over 20 plus years ago. So for all the trolls in the room, we are eliminating uh the racial element, but did you just hear the good judge says that that racial element is a big part of this case? Let me go ahead and finish let the judge speak, y'all.
And and you know what? Yeah, I'll say that for later. Come on, judge.
>> In the Dallas County DA's office, he was a legend. He was a cult figure. And one of the it's a small world after all.
Sound bites from this Charles that he and Bill Worski go back forever. And they were special prosecutors in an incredibly high-profile case right down Interstate uh 35 from this courthouse where a judge and his wife were killed in Coughlin County. So, they've been together. They've been on opposite sides. I think Toby's a great lawyer.
I'm not sure how much Toby actually did in this case again [clears throat] because there were no cameras in the courtroom.
>> Um, Mike Howard, I I don't know the guy, so I'm not going to opine, but I know this.
>> Listen, >> with all of the money that the defendant and mom and dad were able to amass via Kickstarter, GoFundMe, whatever it was, and there was a lot. There are other lawyers not just in the metroplex but within Texas who who I would have hired.
Um Mike High School probably poundforpound not just one of the best lawyers in Texas who also happens to be coincidentally African-American from Fort Worth or lawyers from my part of the state Dan Kaggle, Ken Schaefer, Derek Hworth, Rusty Harden. Those are the guys who I think the call probably should have gone out to. But to your point about ineffective assistance, let me tell you what point one under ineffective assistance is. Well, I'm going to ask you. I'm going to be the host. Vinnie, thanks for joining us today. What do you think the best claim of ineffective assistance is that Carmelo Anony's new lawyer will have?
>> I did not prepare for the punishment phase. Presented no case.
>> Golf clap. Golf clap. You're >> so I got it right. I got it right.
>> Hit it out of the Hit in the Crawford boxes. No question. And I think anybody who again wasn't in the courtroom but but followed the case knew that. My understanding is that they called mom, asked her a couple of questions and then said, "Thanks for being on the show." I have been successful. I've been blessed over however many years of winning a number of cases and serious cases, including Gayen Walby, the only then death row inmate from Galveastston in the fifth circuit court of appeals, which is kind of like climbing Everest in your shorts. um based on the failure to investigate and prepare for a punishment stage.
>> This is why this matters and this is why I like it with a butt that we'll talk about in a minute.
>> What most lawyers don't understand is that most cases are punishment cases.
That the [laughter] defendant in a felony case is the the visiting team down by three scores in the first period. Full stop. And if you have not prepared for the eventuality, for the virtual certainty of a punishment hearing, then again, you you've got no business in a courtroom. That means lining up a smorggas board, a cabana plea of mom, dad, aunts, uncles, cousins, siblings, coaches, teachers, people who knew this kid best.
>> Number one. Number two is I also think this kid's [laughter] 17. And what we like to tell jurors in a situation where we've got a youngster is that our lives are motion pictures. They're not snapshots.
>> Do not judge this this 17-year-old kid whose brain may not be fully formed on the worst day of his life. Which means you need >> that. A white judge says that this black kid, you shouldn't judge this black kid on a in a snapshot in in in his life.
Did a white judge just say this about Carmelo Anthony? Hey, let me go ahead here. Let me go and bring this up while I play this right here. When he's talking about the brain and then Yeah, it's going to be I'm going have to come back tonight cuz I don't want to hold you that long. When he's talking about the brain, he's talking about what the states uh United States Supreme Court, hint hint, a federal court, United States Supreme Court, what they said about uh juveniles under 17 when it comes to crimes. Mike Howard, you didn't even refer to the three cases that uh is that it? No, that's regarding purgatory. Uh we going to talk go back and talk about the witnesses because uh that's Texas Penal Code uh 3702 and 3703. Since they want us to focus on the law of Texas, uh this is what Texas law is regarding uh perjury.
Perjury.
Oh my gosh. What did them young kids do?
What did them young kids do to their own future and lies by getting up there on the witness stand and lying like that and signing those uh affidavits when they said that um uh that you know nobody jumped Carmelo Anthony? What did them kids do? What did them kids do? But let me go ahead and play this and uh you can take a screenshot of the screen that I'm going to show you. Come on, judge.
You sit this kid down with a shrink, a psychologist or psychiatrist to talk about >> there go >> how he's young, what he may have thought was reasonable, and how the best cure for crime is old age. Um, to me, >> the bottom the bottom line though, the bottom line for that is listen, you know, you're not arguing for innocence at that point. what you're doing is trying to mitigate the damage, mitigate the punishment, and get him sentenced to something uh less than 35 years and closer to, I don't know, 10 or 15.
>> Exactly. And and and this is that's a great point, and this this is what's key. In Texas, we have a a system involving murder versus manslaughter.
And so back in the day before the law changed like 25 years ago, a jury manslaughter is is a separate crime with a separate punishment range of 2 to 20.
The legislature said, "Now let's just make it a punishment issue." So you get found guilty of murder during the guilt innocent stage. And that if punishment, you get what's called a special issue.
If you find from the evidence that the defendant acted as a result of sudden passion arising from an adequate cause, that is the kind of uh response that anger, rage, tear or resentment would bring in an ordinary person. Can't believe I remember that.
>> Then this is manslaughter and the penalty range is 2 to 20. While you can litigate that and generally do litigate that during guilt innocence, you can also litigate it during the punishment stage. I didn't see anything at all, nothing. Zero zip nada that was related at all to the special issue. And when you have a cap on 20, it's a lot different than a cap on 99.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Big.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Big >> y'all. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much, Court TV and Judge Bill Wise. I think that's what his name was. Thank you so much.
Wow.
Look at the demographics that I just played. They weren't black. They wasn't africanamean. They wasn't B1. They wasn't the foundational black Americans.
What? On this good and beautiful Junth day of 2026.
Happy Junth. And happy Junth to you also. Carmelo Anthony. You have strangers. You have armies. You have people that you may never even run across that is fighting for you and the justice that you deserve. This is what? Oh my gosh.
So, let's keep going. Okay, hold on.
Okay, I hope you got a screenshot of that. I want to go over these next slides and I want to do What time is it?
What time is it? 1:20 uh 7. I got 30 minutes and I would definitely be coming back tonight because I got so many clips and I want to make sure that I cover everything that I saw in other podcasters that needs to be uh brought to the light. Um, shout outs to like I said, Lkesha Kesha, keep doing keep pushing, keep bringing these personnel on your on your platforms. And shout out to you also, No Captivity, uh, Rit Frenzy, keep doing what you doing. Keep doing what you doing. And every podcaster and everybody that's in the comment sections under everybody videos, keep doing what you doing. Keep doing what you doing. This case is getting momentum that they never even seen coming. Let me go here. Let me go ahead. Let me bring this up right here. Come on with it.
Come on with it.
Now, I want to bring this up here.
Right. And I know y'all probably seen her on Tik Tok or whatever. Um, so take a screenshot so you can read it. But I want to uh highlight the first section on the left hand side. I think that's left hand side on your screen when they say that Hunter Medaf was not there.
This is actually supposed to be allegedly allegedly a written statement that came out of the courtroom. The witness said Hunter Madcaf was right to his brother Austin, which is contrary to what other witness has uh said in testimony. Right. That alone her head is in the way. But hey, for everybody that has said that Hunter Medaf was not at the scene that day, that's a lie. In my last live, I went back and found the interview of Hunter Medaf last year.
that's still I'm surprised it's still out there on uh social media. Uh he gave an account of uh being there on the scene and remember he said uh his brother passed away in his arms. So right there alone if Hunter Madf was not at the scene, how could he even describe that he was holding his hand over the womb to stop the bleeding if he wasn't there? How can he say that uh you know quote unquote his brother passed in his arms? Nah, even uh even Hana said the e the the medical personnel when they arrived on the scene, they pushed him out the way cuz they start they had to start working on on Austin who they brought back alive at the stadium.
They brought him back alive at the stadium and they transported him to the hospital where he succumbs to his injury which was only a 2 in a 2 in puncture wound. And the knife is stated to be three and a half inches. Once again, this is the same utility tool that has a knife, flashlight, a court screw, and everything that TSA allows on planes.
And the knife was not even fully open.
We already heard that. Now, let's go to the same Let's go to the second screen uh uh screenshot. Okay. Austin leans in to push him and Carmelo uh stabs him.
Everybody that has seen that tape has stated that car that uh Austin failed onto the object.
Now if the medical examiner has stated cuz I think I got that too that the puncture womb he didn't said he said the puncture wound was two inches long. Two like two inches. two two inches, but the knife was three and a half. That mean uh Carmelo didn't do this cuz the whole entire thing would have went into the flesh. Austin didn't do that. I'm saying Carmelo didn't do that cuz the whole entire thing would have went in there. So, you know what I think that happened? And this is this is my theory.
Uh I I think and they said uh Austin didn't even uh uh move. He was still sitting when the the puncture wound occurred. And based off what Cody Thompson said, uh you really can't even see what happened because uh they they zoomed in and all you saw was uh blobs of bodies. He said you couldn't even see not even one hand or two hands. And you mean to tell me once again that the verdict convicted that young man over a video that you couldn't tell what was going on in the video?
Just by that alone, the federal government can come in and take over this case and also especially intervene in this case. Even if the federal government intervene in this case, that is proof of by doing this right here, zooming in, zooming out, and altering a video that was used in a criminal uh case that led to a guilty verdict. That alone, that alone, the federal government can come in. The video was altered, misedited, and uh tampered with evidence and it under malicious intent. Malicious intent. So once again, if you're just coming in, if they wanted us to focus on that video, that video that Cody Thompson, the media analyst, I'm going to call him the media analyst from Court TV, ain't no way that Carmelo Anthony or anybody else should have been convicted off that video. That video should have been removed out of the evidence catalog. You can't see nothing.
You can't see nothing. And you mean to tell me they use that evidence, that video to commit Carmelo Anthony? Let's keep going now. Now, now, now, let's keep going. Uh, so yeah, I I really think I I I really think the witness said to describe the push said it was not a light shove or a hard shove. It was in between.
So you mean to tell me so Carlo an Carmelo Anthony didn't do this right? He didn't do this and and he didn't do this but you tell me it was a push that went in 2 in. Carmelo Anthony was 135 lbs.
He didn't have a with a push just a a push. No, it was Austin's weight that came down on that object.
And you know why it didn't go uh if I haven't said this before, my conclusion, my theory, you know the reason why it didn't go down three and a half inches into Austin's body is because when he went down to punch or hit Carmelo Anthony and he felt that oh, he jumped back. That's why it didn't go down the whole entire three and a half inches.
Have you ever been accidentally stuck before and Oh, and you draw it back.
That's what Austin did. That's why it only went 2 in deep.
God. And I'm not even a defense attorney. I'm not CSI. I took a CSI class. I I I will say this. Did you get a copy of my transcripts? I took several CSI classes and forensics biology classes and uh that's why they don't want the autopsy to come out. If you don't know, the autopsy is uh sealed now. The video is sealed. The evidence is sealed. Uh everything is sealed now.
Yeah.
But that's why it was only a 2in puncture wound and not a three and a half when Austin went down accidentally.
He didn't know that. And and like I said, the police officer said the knife wasn't even fully open, but it was only open enough for two inches to go and penetrated his skin. And when he felt that, he jumped back. It was like a pinch, y'all. It was a pinch.
And uh Carmelo Anthony once again was defending himself. They doed that video where it only showed one person confronting Carmelo Anthony. Let's keep going to the next one and then I'm going let y'all go. Let's keep going to the next one. But I want to play two clips from last night um from 2:00 this morning with uh No Cap for Freezing.
Then I come back tonight and play the other ones if you want to hear that. So here we go. What? What? Here we go.
Let's go to the first uh screenshot.
Let's see. Ready?
Oh. Oh, they got 1 p.m. at the top. Uh this uh defense attorney Toby Shook, that's the one I said that is uh he was the one that defended the two uh men.
We're going to remove the race element, the two uh young men that drug James Bird behind that truck in Jasper County.
Look it up. He was their defense attorney and they got off. But he is the one sitting on Carmelo's Anony's side as a defense attorney that didn't do nothing.
Bet.
Gotcha. Let me see. Is there anything in that other picture I want to pull out?
Nope. But I definitely want to go to the second one that says 200 p.m. And we're going to start at the uh the first line after 2 p.m. It says the state next witness is Collins County Medical Examiner Dr. Elizabeth Ventura. Now, like I said, allegedly allegedly these are uh transcripts from the people that was in the courtroom. So, here we go.
But I I I need to look her up. Elizabeth uh Ventura, the mad cap's parents uh have left the courtroom along with several others because they didn't want to see the autopsy or hear about the description of the body. Totally understand. Totally understand that.
Here we go. Dr. uh Ventura did an autopsy on Austin Med. She told educational purposes only. Educational purposes only. She told the jurors that the stab wound was on the left side of his chest uh profiliated, if I said that right, his sternum and the right u ventricle. The knife wound was 2 in deep. That's all. And of course, I can't see all the other stuff in in the uh the picture, but hey, [music] 2 in deep. But the knife was 3 in and a half. Austin failed on that knife. But they're not going to let that out. But I I want to play some uh other clips from last night. I'm going let y'all go, vessels and viewers. Okay. And I'll be back late tonight. [music] Uh let me go ahead. Let me go ahead and play this right here.
Uh last night last night.
Okay. I'mma start from the back. I'mma start from the back. Here we go. And this is coming from uh No Cap with Frenchie. Franny Franny. Okay, let's see what this says. This is a threeminute video.
>> The the maybe they're saying that being that the defense didn't >> did not present certain things in the lower court. It may not be considered in the in appeal. They won't they won't be able to consider it during the appeal process because >> during the appeal process, right?
>> Yeah. Because the defense they they was they didn't present a lot of important information that they should have presented. Maybe that's what as gave us saying, >> but it's also depending on the route that his appeals attorneys are going, right? Cuz there's different routes to get there. Now, if let's say if he does like maybe get granted a new trial. I know sometimes you it's hard to get a new trial if you don't have new evidence. So, because if we're thinking this logic, there's a lot of evidence that wasn't presented um that could possibly be presented in the in a lower court if he gets a new trial.
>> Does that make sense?
>> Yeah.
>> So, I think it just depends on the route I think that they go on on the with the appeals. As Gabe said, I'm sorry. No, it's okay. As I just want to make sure we understand your question, right, because it's important, but uh to be honest with you, with the appeal process, if it's a new trial, if if he gets presented a new chance to present his case, they will there's going to be new lawyers, right? So, they will be able to present new evidence and all that kind of stuff. um Mike Howard and Toby Shook is not his attorneys anymore. So when you got new attorneys taking this case, right, if he if his appeal goes through, which it will, and the appellent court deems that the process was, you know, they they found flaws in the initial process and then they grant them a new trial. I think they will be able to present a whole another case, a new case, you know, with the new trial.
>> [clears throat] >> Uh, let me see.
>> But the prosecution won't be able to bring that same case because they didn't bring anything. They didn't bring They brought >> It's going to hurt the prosecution, right, Nick? N >> Yeah, it it really will cuz they brought emotion and policy. They didn't bring they did not show that he intentionally and knowingly um I was going to say unalived uh >> killed Austin, right? my opinion.
>> That's why I heard a lawyer on Fox News actually, which is a right-wing platform, said >> I think they the lawyer said from his uh experience, they gave Carmelo Anthony a get out of jail free card >> by how the by how the prosecution handled the case. Yes, they convicted him, but the way they convicted him in the process from just from the jury selection all the way down to the end of the the trial, that lawyer on Fox News said this is a classic case of getting a this is just a rickety mistake. He said that the prosecution made a lot of rookie mistakes and this is a easy get out of jail free card for a Camelo. Is a white lawyer said that on Fox News said that.
>> Uh, let me see. I'm going to hand you now. Thank y'all so much for having >> Okay, so this uh the video the live that um no cap no captivity with Frenchie lasted over five hours last night. So these clips are small but these were the main clips that I heard. Okay, let me go and play the next one. So that was at the end of the live. So I'm going backwards. So listen to this y'all >> uh allowing this.
>> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That is from this morning. Let me play the next one. was a part of the bride, you know, you know, scholarships and all that kind of stuff.
>> I wouldn't put it past them.
>> Yeah, that was the rumor.
>> It's not. So, the ones that I know that was talking about their scholarships and their commitments had nothing to do with that.
>> Okay.
>> Thank you, Nick. Uh, this is one leak.
Malikica for the $5. Malikica said if it was a multi-tool then Austin had to if it was a multi-tool then Austin had to have fell on it because it really is really difficult uh killing and stabbing someone with that people survive multi No people people survive multiple stabs and that's a fact >> people survive multiple stab if it was a multi-tool Austin had to have fell on it. And me just processing that before I talked to anybody weeks ago. I said Camilo did not purposely just stab Austin like as if he was intently trying to, you know, murder someone.
>> Had to be >> You back. You back, Queen.
>> My bad. I'm sorry. They I'm so sorry.
Look, but they made it seem like that in court. Y'all remember when they was asking Jaylen how did how did it happen and he had him sit down. Remember the prosecutor was sitting in the seat and then Jaylen was standing up and push him and prosecute said he made like that.
>> Yeah, >> they made Carmelo look like Chucky y'all. Like he was just >> really >> just Yes. Like he was Chucky Jason. Who else be carrying them big ass night?
Who? That's how they made Carmelo look in court and and they called out Jose.
Jose when he demonstrated how it happened. Um they was like you stood up but you testified Carmelo was sitting down the whole time and he was like well yeah. So they they don't they nobody saw it happen. Nobody saw it because unfortunately I think Austin when he went to push him it did a one back and back and forth motion like the medical examiner said and that's why it didn't go all the way. It only created a 2inch wound.
>> What?
>> A defensive wound.
>> Go ahead.
>> No, no, no. Cuz I was going to keep going. Y you know I get to testify. Go ahead.
>> Yeah. The prosecutor painted Carmelo like he went there just to he, you know, left his house and he came there to poke someone, >> right?
>> Wow.
>> And I'm like, as many people he passed on the way to the bleaches, he couldn't find nobody to poke.
>> Keep talking, sister. He went in the tent asking about the weather. He as when he sat next to Chris who he asked Chris if he could sit next to him. Um he said, "Can I sit here?" And then he started talking about the weather. He was like, "This weather is crazy."
Right.
>> Who?
>> Like they act like he came in just talking quote unquote recklessly. No, he was talking about the weather.
Now, if you don't know what the prosecutor was doing when they was describing Carmelo Anthony in that factor that even though the video showed different y'all, um firstdegree murder is one of the hardest uh charges to bring forth and get a guilty plea on. Reason being, you have to show meditated premeditation and intent. Well, Carmemelllo Anthony don't even have a criminal or background or a bad behavior background, right? So, the prosecutor, they had to create this image of Carmelo Anthony, leaving his house, grabbing the tool, just intending out of all people to uh do what he did to uh Austin Mad Cow. It was the prosecutor that created this image for the jury because he had to in order to get a firstderee charge guilty verdict without that imagery, without painting that picture. You ever heard and and you saw them on the movies, they got to paint a picture. They try to try to describe the scenes and whatever.
This prosecutor was describing something that didn't even exist. But he had to.
He had to because he knew without that without that image of that descriptions and all those averages that he used to describe Carmelo Anthony that first degree charge was going to fall on his face.
Do your research. But that's why he had to describe that. And these two ladies here, Nicknack and Queen 081, they was actually in the courtroom. So this is their uh how can I say it? um testimony of what they saw and heard throughout the days of the court case. Come on with it.
>> Why can't people see that? That's criticizing this.
>> Because because their um implicit bias won't >> that's crazy to me. And >> all [snorts] right, so these video clips are click quick. Here goes two minutes.
I'm trying to get to the the one about they convicted him. Uh it took 30 minutes to convict Carmelo Anthony and it was Mike Howard that said, "Let's go ahead and do immediate citizen." And then I'm going end the live on that. I want to find that video. Oh, Mike Howard. Oh, Mike Howard.
Okay, that was a picture. Let's see here. Here we go.
>> Yes, I got that on video, honey. Yes, it was going down. While y'all was in there, we was outside boots on the ground. So, so, so, so was it a former candidate was arrested outside the courthouse because they were speaking up for Carmelo Anthony?
>> No. No. She's a Republican. I ain't gonna say his name. He was going against Candace. Uh, what's her name? Um, the lady down here. I forgot the last name.
I was >> No, she was going against uh Candace, y'all. The one >> Candace Matthews.
>> No, Candace.
>> No. Is this the um >> Candace Owens?
>> Black Girl.
>> Yeah. Owens. Yes. I think it was Candace. I'm running out of Candace's.
I'm like >> Candace. Candace OS is the Republican.
Is the Republican girl.
>> No, she's a Democrat.
>> Oh, Candace.
>> Oh, C uh with the um what's her name?
>> Look at your chat. It's the Candace. Let me look. Candace. Y'all know her name.
Um I was >> What's her name?
>> Okay. Thank you for that.
>> Thank you for that. Now we um Hold on. I always >> Are you Are you talk Are you talking about Jasmine Crockett?
>> My bad. Jasmine Crockett. I don't know what it is.
>> Oh yeah, you got me. [laughter] That's why I said Candace is a Candace.
We was talking about Candace. My bad. He was going up against Rocket. So he came out there and his little antics and cussing at the women. He got in the girl's face like threatening her and they took his butt to jail. So They were showing out cussing them out and saying haha. He end up going to jail.
>> Oh, okay. Gotcha. Gotcha.
>> He was.
>> So, that might be something different because Sierra said Congress actually, you know, they mentioned >> Oh, I I know why I recorded this. Y'all said Tony Tess up. Why did you bring that up? Oh, remember when I talked about the uh the federal government getting involved uh uh intervening in this case and the federal takeover?
Well, you know what? Um it's been some hate speech down there. Uh they say even last year the Pride Boys uh pulled up in Collins County and and the people outside of the courtroom, one got arrested uh was speaking with hate crime undertones and and and just by that alone ain't hate crimes a against federal uh law.
But let's keep pushing. Let's keep pushing. So that was that video there.
Let's see here. Whole one. Whole one.
And only got actually got uh four more.
That's it. very small.
>> Hey, shout out to See how [laughter] See how $5 said, "Thank you to everyone on the panel for speaking up." No cap.
You do know if Dr. Do you know if Dr. Candace Matthews pulled her support of Carmelo due to Charleston White? Does anybody know that >> she did?
>> She did.
>> Wow.
>> That was That's crazy.
>> I'mma leave I'mma leave I'mma leave that one alone. Uh, let me go to the next one. I'm trying to get to the one about the ruling podcast. Shout out to them.
>> Uh, shout out to And shout out to Asgave cuz I I Yeah, Asgave. You You're a regular over there. So, shout out to you Asgave.
>> So, that one >> they were telling us he >> they were saying that Carmelo Anthony was stoic. That's not the case. He baldled. He bald. And y'all, maybe this is the one because you remember how people said that the his parents was not in the courtroom? There's a reason why his parents was not in the courtroom.
His parents was not in the courtroom because they didn't want to be in the courtroom. They got removed before the verdict.
Hold on. I'm finding that video. I'm trying to get to that video right now.
Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on one.
But people spreading this rumor that he's in danger in prison and >> Oh, I tell that. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Could you could you tell the crowd could you tell the audience how how Carmelo is doing in prison right now?
>> He is not in danger. Uh the family went to go see him last either Saturday or Sunday and they said that um Carmelo [clears throat] told them that u the inmates are knocking on the door cuz you know he's in their PC. They're knocking on the door saying hey keep your head up and he's in good spirits. So ain't nobody down there doing nothing. And let me also tell you something. Excuse me.
Let me know [laughter] for a long time for you.
>> Let me tell you something. You don't know who know who in these prisons. So don't let the outside get misconcred when it come to folks in here. Prison is a whole different ball game than outside. You don't know who know who.
One phone. You see what I'm saying? You got the Muslims in there having this back. You got the um what's what's what's other people of the the five whatever they call. He ain't just Israelites.
>> Yeah, is he ain't just in there like by himself. They gonna look out for that boy at the end of the day. They gonna if he ever get the GP, they gonna most definitely look out for him. So we going to do this dropping the soap and all this BS. They trying to say he in danger. They going to ride on what they about the musles, baby. They going to ride. They going to ride. [laughter] >> That's a fact. I'm happy that you uh cleared that up with everybody cuz you know it's a lot of it's a lot of just uh >> trying to get to the one about the courtroom.
me or something cuz they won't let me tell my truth.
[laughter] >> Why my nervous?
>> Why your service nervous? That's my first I'm I'mma have to use that.
>> My service nerve.
>> Uh let me see. So, uh ask a $2, did they claim to show actual tool? Camelo, you go to actual.
>> So, I think we answered that earlier. I heard it was just an example of the tool, not the actual tool because they didn't use gloves or anything. Right.
According to >> But they showed the picture of it though. Y'all remember that?
>> It was a It was a replica. They showed a picture.
>> They showed the picture, but when he was when he pulled it out, it was a replica cuz he said he didn't feel like using gloves.
>> Right.
>> Uh GT Massive, $20. Thank you for the $20, GT Massive. GT Master said, "This is a worthy stand. Bless all who assist my brothers." Thank you, brothers and sisters.
>> Okay, I'm getting to it.
>> But he he's he bas that's what that's what he was saying. Like he can't go like he can't like Oh, I'm sorry y'all.
>> This is this is what stuck out to me.
You said that Michael Howard said cuz remember we on the outside we over fighting. [clears throat] >> Listen listen.
>> So it's like every time somebody step out we try to run up there get something out of you know. So you said to go ahead and move forward with the sentencing because we outside like what the I didn't know that until you just said that. We outside like what damn he just got convicted. What you doing? Yeah, >> he said he just, you know, just wanted to go ahead and get it done today.
>> Defense attorney, >> his own defense attorney is not giving him time to gather himself together, build his family. Now I'm getting mad at my loss. Giving him time to his [laughter] family. Now you want to go ahead and sentence him.
That's a jewel right there.
>> Did Mike Howard say that?
>> Yeah, it was Mike. It was Mike. I remember him standing up and he said he he however you say it like you know uh move forward to sentencing and you know uh they didn't object >> they took them people money man they just took they just took their family's money and >> so to add insult to injury you just want to hear him move that that fast. So y'all, that was the proof that it was Mike Howard, uh, Carmelo's defense attorney, um, that, uh, said he requested immediate sentencing over his own client.
One, I want to get to the winner about the parents being removed from the courtroom. I only got two more slides, two more audio uh, audio clips and that's it, Vesas, and I'll be back tonight. Okay.
He bas that's what that's what he was saying like he can't go like he can't like >> okay it's not that one so this the last one right here we go please God that's my best friend the paramedics are saying come on Austin stay with me but Cortez said that they use it as a tool themselves to cut open >> oh you go the police officer >> officer Riley said the same thing he said it was a tool and he said it's not illegal for for him to have it We need to start calling it a tool, >> right?
>> And I'm I'm going to make sure I call it a tool. I was calling it a tool, but they was trying to make us believe that it was a knife in court, but it actually is a multi-tool.
>> Multi-tool.
>> That's actually what it is.
>> Yeah. So, let's So, everybody that's watching, let's stop calling this this uh object a knife. Let's call it what it is. It's a multi-tool. So when people ask why did he have a knife? He didn't have a knife.
He had a multi-tool that's used for different purposes, which makes sense why a teenager would have that, right?
You know, >> yes, exactly. Sh. That makes sense on how you can sharpen your cleats and everything. Exactly like what Queen said. So shout out to you, Asgave. Uh, also, let's see. Shout out to Ni $2. Ni said, "Was his parents in court for the sentencing?" Here we go.
>> I was told no, but Nick, weren't you in?
Weren't you in there?
>> Listen to what they did to the parents.
>> Um, for sentencing, I I end up remember I left after the verdict cuz I couldn't take him crying. But, >> um, I do know. So, they were not in the room for sentencing, but it wasn't because they didn't want to be. So they were taken they were taken by security to another location >> and they didn't know what's going on because we were all kind of waiting. Um so they didn't know that court had um started back and they weren't able to get in after it started but they were taken by sec they were taken to another location by security.
>> So they weren't they weren't there but they weren't there because they didn't want to be.
>> Thank you. Can I ask Nick next? Can you Can you cuz soon as you came out you I just >> I was th I know. Thank you. I love you [laughter] so much.
>> So y'all that's why the Anthony the family the mother and father of Carmelo Anthony was not there. security removed them from the room and they could not get back in or was not allowed back into the courtroom because at that time uh and I think she's about to go into that uh it took 30 minutes for the verdict and then I'm going to let y'all go. Um they didn't want the parents in there because they know that the verdict they came down and they knew what any parents would have done. Yeah. Let me keep playing this. [laughter] I was >> I was tore up, y'all. I was tore up.
>> I had that ugly cry. I was crying. I had that ugly cry. I was grabbing my stomach like they do in Tyler Perry movies. I was like, "Why, Lord?"
>> I cried on my couch. I cried, too.
>> My knees. But can I I would like cuz we like you said, we have to start humanizing them. Can you tell the people when they gave them the verdict what he did? That that's what made me break down when she told me that. I I I was through. What did he do? Knicknack, [laughter] >> your um your phone is breaking up again, Nicknack. We can't hear you.
>> It's breaking up again, Nicknack.
>> Okay, she went on mute.
Say something, Nicknack.
>> Say something right now. Okay, I got to push it away from me. Okay. So, um when they when they read the verdict that he was found guilty of, uh murder, >> uh can I say that on here? I'm used to talking on TikTok. I got a sense of >> I know.
>> Yeah. I was going to tell y'all earlier.
Yeah. To YouTube is a little more um word friendly. So, yeah, we're talking about a murder case. So, you can say it.
Go ahead.
>> I can say it. Okay.
>> They But they got y'all on handcuffs at Tik Tok, don't they?
>> They do. I be correcting people. I'll be like, "It's un alive." And they like, "Girl, we not on TikTok."
>> [ __ ] I said murder kill.
>> Okay. So, he started. So, they it was a minute and I was sitting behind the directly behind the Metaf family. Um, so at first I thought it was like maybe one of them crying, but then I caught eyes with most of them like how much as I could and they were mostly like smiling like you know happy >> but I heard this well like this really loud cry >> and um where I was sitting I could see his face >> and I tell people all the time I I heard Carmelo cry but before I heard him speak and he was crying I mean willing and I could see him like turning came to Michael Howard just kind of doing his hands like this like like he didn't understand why >> and he was just crying. He put his hands in his head and he was just like he was and it was like this cry that honestly y'all is still haunting me and honestly the motivation >> for me to keep fighting for him even though some of my family's mad at me and it's like respectfully I I get it. We're not going to always see eye to eye but I know what I saw in that courtroom and hearing him cry was just something that I really wish I never heard it. It was a pain that I never wanted to hear from anyone. Um, Michael Howard asked if he could take him out. Um, and they and Judge Roach Jr. um was like, you know, he just was convicted of murder. He is basically like the property of the state now. Like he can't go anywhere. Um because Kam was like really just he was too strong. He was too strong. Um, I left after like I was able to I found like a a small window where I could leave because they they did ask to move to um to punishment to sentencing. Um, Michael Howard asked like could they just go ahead and move forward with that?
>> And I was like, you know what? I >> you know what I think Mike Howard knew that this case that this case was going to be orchestrated. It was railroaded.
It was orchestrated and he was going to take that money. That's why Mike Howard, and I'm going to say my opinion, that's why Mike Howard, he rushed, he asked for immediate citizen because he was going to take that money and run. Mike Howard did not want to come back to Collins County and and by that time, if they would have delayed citizen and had that mob, that's what they said. They was going to call it a mob. That's what Judge Ro said. He didn't want the mob in his courtroom. That's why they didn't have the cameras. according to uh uh judge uh Roach, right? But Mike Howard, that's why he wanted immediate citizen.
He requested that because he knew he had already secured that money and he was about to leave town. Where is Mike Howard? Where is Mike Howard? So, you mean to tell me that the dad Jeff Metaf has done a venue uh uh interview?
that's going to be evidence uh to give uh show proof of the young man's mentality, especially regarding uh black Americans. Woo! The father just did some damage in that. And then we don't even even heard from uh the great judge John Roach who by that interview alone has recused himself from any type of litigations in the future proceeding over the case. But Mike Howard, where's Mike Howard? Imagine the money that he got off this case because the family didn't get it. Uh what's the thing called? Send go. Uh uh send me go or whatever whatever the funds were. Uh they they sent out uh statements recently that funds were distributed distributed for two reasons to pay for uh lawyer fees and relocations.
Mike Howard got that money and Mike Howard didn't want to come back to Collins County for that sentencing. That's why he requested that judge over his own client that he railroad. didn't request no experts to come in. Uh didn't request uh remember when the the appealing judge say he would have had a a a slew a smorgish boards of people to stand up and speak on Carmelo Anthony because by default you're supposed to be prepared for a punishment ruling, right? He didn't do none of that.
Mike Howard took that money on purpose and ran.
Mike Howard did all this on purpose for whatever reason.
Mike Howard, you should be uh disbarred and you also should be um your likeness, your license should be taken away from you, disbarred and you should have uh criminal charges brought up on you also.
You let that weak evidence convict Carmelo Anthony and you didn't eject over nothing. You heard what Cody Thompson said. Uh Mike Howard didn't even refer to the video. You know why he couldn't refer to the video? And you know why he he didn't refer to the video, y'all? Because just like Cody Thompson said, you couldn't see nothing on the video. So, why wouldn't Mike Howard even go up there and commit perjury himself when he's trying to identify people? You couldn't even see hands, feets, or nothing. He said, "You just saw a joke." My gosh. My lord. My lord. But y'all, that's it. Um, if I don't come back tomorrow uh tonight, I'll be back tomorrow morning the same time uh cuz I got some other videos regarding what Lkesha Kesha uh said uh from the black lawyer in Texas. and she gave some pretty good uh information and and as you know I'm going to continue to dig continue to dig continue to dig on this happy Junth weekend because there's no rest as long as Carmelo Anthony is behind bars wrongly convicted and accused and ineffective legal counsel and the the bastion of rule and the prosecution case. I'm not resting, y'all. I'm not resting. So, uh, until next time. I couldn't get through all of your comments, but until next time, make sure you get your notes, your drink, and your vest because we stay vested up over here 365 degrees at Tony Talks. Vested up compelling sports edge.
Carmelo Anthony supposed to be in college either on a track team or football team. This young man's life and freedom and future has been temporarily halted, but we're going to get him out of that jail. But like I said in the beginning, just be patient. Let the appeal lawyer and the private lawyer once the family hire one, if they already have one, take their time and go through this evidence because we don't want them to rush through this thing. It's the appeal process and it falls through because all the uh documents, motions, any of the evidence uh got left out. We we just don't want them to rush this just like Collins County rush this case against Carmelo Anthony. Okay? So, y'all just continue to pray for this family and especially Carmelo Anthony. Carmelo Anthony, stay up, young man. Stay up, young man. So vesters and viewers, I'll see you uh either tonight or tomorrow morning. Thank you vesters and viewers.
Thank you.
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