Kearney delivers a compelling critique of how selective evidence presentation by prosecutors can fundamentally compromise the integrity of the grand jury process. His analysis serves as a necessary check on systemic overreach, emphasizing that justice requires full context rather than curated narratives.
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Yo, what's up, peeps? How's everybody doing? Let me know if we got static tonight. Feel free to let me know about that. We're trying to The static's horrible. I know. What are you gonna do?
But just let me know. I can usually fix it. But anyway, how's everybody doing? I was going to wait till tomorrow to go live about this, but I can't do it. I got I got way too much to say, man. And I haven't had a chance yet to go over the old um the uh interviews with uh Chris Albert, Julie Albert, Michael Proctor, and Courtney Proctor, which are just wild in and of itself. Okay. And like I want to go over those two. And there just I'm not gonna have enough time. So we got we got to do it like every day. I don't give a [ __ ] So anyway, how's everybody doing out there?
Um it I had a really good day, interesting day in court today. Uh I'll tell you right now, like a lot of people are like down. I don't know what you guys expected. Like I knew exactly this today went exactly how I thought it was going to go. Like actually I thought it went better than than it could have gone. Like I was actually pleasantly surprised with him grilling Cosgrove.
And uh I was also very enthused about like I've and guys if you watch my show, you know that I've been talking trial, trial, trial for a while, right? I like I'm ready for a trial. Like I've been ready for a trial. I'm in trial mindset.
I've been planning trial. I've been planning who we're going to call as witnesses. Like if I'm I've assumed we're going to trial for a long time.
Like that's not I ass I always assume we're going to trial, right? because Ken Reed went to trial. I was convinced Ken Reed would never make the trial because it's absolutely ridiculous. But no, they will embarrass themselves on national television and and they will do it again. They've learned nothing. Like, so like I said it when Karen Reed was in pre-trial [ __ ] I'll say it again.
You want to [ __ ] Let's [ __ ] Let's just get in a room and [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] Let do it.
It's time to [ __ ] It's time to [ __ ] And I'm ready to [ __ ] I'm always ready to [ __ ] And if you guys want to do this, I'm not going to lose. I will not lose.
Go ahead. Go ahead. And I said it before and I'll say it again. This is going to be my greatest victory of many victories. Many, many, many victories I've had over these years to get where I am today. I am I did not get to where I am today by backing down, by losing. I win. That's what I do. I'm going to win.
Especially when for the first time I'm in a position where I'm fighting for my life, okay? My life is on the line here.
Like literally, if if you lose, you can go to jail. You have you have to win.
You have to win. I've never been in this position before where it's like you have to win. And I'm already in that and I'm going to win. And the the the what I have going for me is that I haven't committed a crime. I have like I I haven't comm like I've not even close. And I get to defend the greatest thing this country has that no other country on earth has a first amendment. I get to be the person on trial defending the United States Constitution. And I get the privilege and the honor of doing that. Okay. And and are you allowed to say the things that I said in defense of John O'Keefe and Karen Reed? Are you who a man who was murdered and thrown on the lawn like trash and a woman who was framed for his murder? Are you allowed to say mean things to the people who killed him and framed her? Are you allowed to do that? I say yes. I say [ __ ] yes. I say let's go. And if you want to put that and I get it like these judges No, that's one thing I learned when they didn't dismiss Cara Reed's charges. I realized, oh, they don't dismiss anything. Huh? Like they don't judges do not around here do not like to be the person who dismisses [ __ ] They don't like it, right? They don't just leave it up to a jury. I agree. You want to I I think you I think it should be thrown out. You want to leave it up to a jury? Let's go. Good luck finding 12 because you are going to put the first amendment on trial and you are going to relitigate. As much as you don't want to relitigate the Karen Reed case, you you have no choice now. It's all coming into evidence, all of this, because I have to explain and others have to explain why they did what they did. Why were uh you know, why did these people attend the rolling rally? Why did all those people and and not get arrested, by the way? Why did all those people attend the rolling rally? Why why were you there that day? What did you see? What did you see? Did you see any witness intimidation there? Did you see any violence? Did you see any threats?
Because you witnessed this was a crime.
That's what they're telling us. The rolling rally was a crime. So all there were hundreds hundreds of witnesses to a crime that occurred all day. According to them, right? The only people who have testified about the rolling rally are the McAlvers. That's the only people that the government has put on the stand. So, let's bring on the we will put every single person who went to that rolling rally on the stand if we need to. Every single person and they can explain what they saw that day. Tell the jury what you witnessed that day. Did you see any intimidation?
Did you see any threats?
Did you hear anything about interfering with an ongoing criminal proceeding? Did you do that? Did you hear anything like that? No, you didn't. Oh, okay. Why were you there? Why were you there? Oh, you were there because you believed that these people were involved in covering up a murder.
Oh, and you believe this guy on the defendant. You believe this guy was leading a social movement that was exposing them. You believe that? Oh, so that's Oh, okay. So, yeah, put the Let's put them all on the stand. Let's do it.
Okay. Okay. You want to do it? Let's [ __ ] I got no problem with that. Let's put them all. And believe me, I have the most productive thing that came out today. Why I am so happy for my life today. I mean, for my life, my with the way today went was not what happened in court. I could give a [ __ ] less about that. That court, you know, was exactly what I thought it was going to be, right? I was excited about what came after court.
the meeting that we had, okay, and the discussions that we had. That's what I liked. And you you don't get to be privy to what happened there. But I'm very excited about it. And again, I said this to Purple Kool-Aid. I was just on his Twitter presentation prior to this.
You know, if you're betting on if you're watching a football match, right, and American football, not soccer football, uh, and you or see you have one team has Lamar Jackson in his prime and Derek Henry on one team. That's who's leading them. The other team, who do they got at quarterback? Uh, they have Joe Nameoth, but not 1967 Joe Nameoth. Joe Nameoth now, like now Joe Nameoth, like 80s something year old Joe Nameoth. That's who they have.
That's Cosg Grow versus Bradel and Betterro. Who you betting on? Who you betting on? Cuz don't forget, they don't have Hank Brennan this time around. They don't Does that man seem That hearing went an hour long today and one hour.
I thought he was going to pass out. He showed up with a beard and a hat on like he was Whitey Bulger on the run.
Like he did not with his tennis shoes on. He was exhausted. These he these trial dates are eight hours long. He's a thousand years old. A thousand.
Who you betting on? Who are you betting on?
Put me on the stand. You saw me on the stand with 5150 at my the restraining order hearing that she initiated, not me. You saw that?
It was better than direct. I I did better under cross-examination than on direct. Go ahead. Because that that's when I'm at my finest. When you are trying to get one over on me and I'm defending myself, that's when I'm at my best. So, and because two things I will guarantee coming out of this, two things. Number one, if this goes to a jur a trial, it will be a jury trial. We will not wave a jury. That I can guarantee you. It is going to be a jury trial because a jury of my peers will I trust I was an 11th grade history teacher. Man, you understand how hard it is to teach to get 11th grade kids who are thinking all they want to think about is two things. Booze and [ __ ] That's all they care about because it's all new to them when they're in 11th grade. for the first time, booze and [ __ ] are around.
And that's all that's all I was thinking about when I was in 11th grade. I wasn't thinking about history. I was thinking about booze and [ __ ] Okay? And uh I could give a [ __ ] less what my history teacher was saying. And so I had to teach 11th graders to give a [ __ ] about the SpanishAmerican War in the USS Maine. They don't give a [ __ ] about that. But I had to make them I had to find a way to make them care. Okay. that you understand how talented that is. The skill that takes to get 11th graders to give a [ __ ] about that to get them to pay attention and like it and enjoy it.
I did that. That's like my greatest accomplishment ever. Wasn't anything I've done here is what I did in the classroom. Okay? And that is my that is the jury to me. The jury is a class of my students who I just need to explain this to and everything will be fine.
Okay? And I have to get them to care and I have to get them to understand. And that's what I'm going to do. Period. End of story. And it's going to happen. So, we're going to talk all about that.
We're going to watch it. But if you're new here, guys, my name is Aiden Carney.
I'm the host of this program here. You call me a variety of nicknames up to it, including journalism Jesus. A Timothy Carney. It's my true crime name. Uh, Uncle Turtle Boy. Old school turtle writers call me that. You just call me Turtle Boy. A lot of people just call me Turtle Boy. A lot of people in Boston was in Boston all weekend. And you know, we went out for the World Cup. We watched the World Cup in uh Eanual Hall.
Went to Margaritavville actually because we stayed at the hotel right by there and went to Margaritavville. Had a blast. Uh and you know, people just come everywhere I go in Boston. Say Turtle Boy. Everywhere I [ __ ] go, I go walk around Boston. Million people. People ask take pictures. People say hi to you.
It happens all the time. I was in the goddamn elevator today coming from the parking garage. Okay. in the elevator going to court. I got my suit on and I I'm in the elevator and I get out and this guy behind me goes, "Uh, good luck today." I'm like, "Oh, thanks." And he's like, "I was just watching Saturday's show." And he shows me his phone and sure as [ __ ] there I am right on his phone, you know. Um, you know, so yeah, that's what I did there. Um, and so like that's that's a jury. Like that's what you're going to get. 12 people. And if they haven't heard of me yet, trust me, they're gonna love me. And you can act like people don't [ __ ] love me, but you're in denial, brother. You are a very significant minority of people filled with losers. There might be one or two losers that get on the jury. Might be.
They might get on there and they might be holding out or whatever, but it ain't it's you're not going to get 12. Well, it's not going. It was the same with Karen Reed. You'll never get 12. You get nine even with Karen. You got nine or so they say. Some say eight.
Ronnie said eight, but nine, eight, whatever. You got more than one. And yeah, black women love Turtle Boy 2. I got that. That became official today. We were outside the courthouse on the courthouse stairs doing our exit interview and this bodacious uh African-American woman came out of the courthouse with a man and she she saw the signs saying uh turtle boy was right and she's like she just interrupted the press conference and was like [ __ ] yeah turtle boy was right and Karee is not guilty [laughter] and then she goes she goes black girls for turtle boy. She said black. So that's black girls for turtle boy. Like go do it. Do it. Everybody likes me and they're not going to like the fact that who wanted me arrested. Oh, that's right. Racist poo poo baby [ __ ] Michael Proctor. Oh, he's making fun of me. He's being mean. He's talking about me again.
Talking about my family again. Can we Why are we just arresting him? And also n word nword nword nword. And [ __ ] the Jews. Oh, but he's being mean to me.
He's being mean to me. Yeah. Okay. See how that plays with any demographic of people, especially people of color. See how that plays? You don't think we're going to bring that up? We get it all.
We get it all. Do it. Prosecute me. Do it. It'll be the best Christmas ever.
Ever.
The best Christmas ever. You know, I don't give a [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] any of these. And I'll never forget the people who and and you don't think I'm taking on hands, [ __ ] of every single person who doubted me. You don't think I'm screenshotting everything, saving everything, remembering every person who thought that they could kick me when I'm down.
Do it. Do it. Do it. I can't wait. I can't [ __ ] wait. So anyway, you can also call me um what else can you call me? Was in the middle of my thing there?
Turtle boy. Just regular turtle boy. You can call me uh I prefer doctor turtle boy because of you know Jud Welch is a doctor. I get to be a doctor too. You can call me daddy if you'd like. That might be weird for some people. For others it might be you know get it's a little awkward but for others they might find it fun, flirtatious, playful, even sexy. They might even call it. You call me different kinds of daddy. You can call me crowd daddy. You can call me theater daddy. Brow daddy. Daytime daddy. Mr. Media Daddy, Saint Daddy, drama daddy, formerly drama-free daddy.
And of course, you can call me fridge daddy if you'd like because I fix fridges like it's going out of style.
Okay, they break again often and you might want your fridge fixed again. That might happen, but your fridge will be fixed temporarily for like a week. Okay.
Um, awesome. Okay. Um, and yes, shout out. We're going to show Grant Smith's stream tonight and Grant asked a really good question outside of court. Uh, and that I didn't even know about. Grant asked me or asked my lawyers like, "What do you think about Proctctor's bias towards the Irish?"
Okay.
Where he made some joke about the potato famine. And so I I just got it sent to me here. Oh my god.
I don't know what year this is from, but it's Proctor saying, "Hey, Ley, how would you feel if the potato famine wiped out it people?
Being wiped out by a potato would be embarrassing." O, it's not funny, Proctor. That's not funny. The potato fa It's too soon. Potato famine jokes are too soon. My people have been through too much. That's all there was to eat, [ __ ] How would you like a no French fries? Oh, you can't eat any potatoes. Well, that's what's for dinner. So, if there's no potatoes, what the [ __ ] are we going to eat? Huh?
And people starved and [ __ ] man. They were hungry and others died of disease.
That there was a whole exodus of people that fled the country to come to America because of [ __ ] potatoes. You know, you think that shit's funny. You think that shit's cute, Proctor?
What my ancestors had to go through?
That's why I live in America today.
Because of potatoes. It's too soon. It's too hard.
Then he says, "Haha, we could use them nwords." Yikes.
"As dart boards."
That's nice.
And Larry Kennedy says, Meg Kennedy's wife's husband says, "I would love that.
Perfect world." So he's hates my people, too. So my people are So shout out to Grant for I didn't even know that he said that. that he's biased against the Irish. That shit's not cute, bro. That's like making slavery jokes about black people. You can't be making jokes about potato famines and [ __ ] That shit's like serious, bro. You know, at least if you're a cop. At least if you're a cop. But anyway, um don't forget to smash that subscribe button, too, if you haven't done so already. I got messages from LH here. No static so far.
Yes. And we've been asked, Grant, please email uh turtlepodsgmail.com.
turtlepodsgmail.com.
And Laura would like to send you a shirt, a turtle boy shirt uh to your address. So email [email protected] and Laura will take care of you. Okay.
So he's an honorary turtle now. I'm an honorary towel. He's an honorary turtle.
So it's great to see him out there asking good questions like that. The press today was all independent media.
And I love it. I love it. It was Rebecca Lavoy, it was uh Dana, it was Erica Walsh, it was um Justice Serve Mike Bryant, right?
And it was Grant. It was Towel News Network. And it was like they were the ones out there asking the questions.
Good questions, too. And where was the mainstream media? They're they're down and they're watching. The Lindsey Clancy trial is very important. Don't get me wrong, but I've been to jury selection before. It's like watching paint dry. It is [ __ ] boring. I watched one juror get picked in the camera retrial and that was Charlie Delo. That's it. The rest of them, I didn't see any of them get picked because [clears throat] it's [ __ ] boring.
I would argue today was pretty big day.
But hey, people do what they got to do.
You know, they got to do what they got to do to hustle. So, okay. Um, so we got a lot to get to. If you guys want to have your messages read out loud to the class, click at the link at the top for turtle chat or you can cash at me at dollar sign uncle turtle boy. I've also posted on the twit [ __ ] the give andgo uh which I can't pin in here because we have the turtle chat posted. Uh, and you can feel free to donate to that as well.
I'm not sure if I'll be able to read the messages on there as they come in.
Although we do have a couple that have been posted since we got 11 bucks from Karen says free turtle boy. Heidi sends 50 and says we are in the fight with you turtle boy. You'll be success you'll succeed in the battle and be able to tell the full story afterwards. So thank you so much for that. Um what else do we have here? Uh let's see if we have a turtle touch quizzy sends 20 bucks goes listen turtle boy after replaying the Saturday episode. It got me thinking. Mattie's entire argument sits on a circular reasoning principle.
Meaning that in order to petition the government, you had to accuse the house defendants. Therefore, this cannot stand as defamation alone since the basis of that is in order to expose injustice.
You had to accuse them of wrongdoing.
You couldn't have petitioned the government otherwise saying they're innocent and investigating. That's not That's a good point. They wanted me to go to the government and petition them and be like, "The Mc Alberts did it."
But even they would say that's defamatory because that's what Kare did, right? It's like went in court and we're like, "Yeah." I mean, so you could tell some people that they did it but not others. I mean, that makes no sense.
That makes no sense. Yeah. And the Lindsey Clancy trials, I mean, I I don't [ __ ] with that. Like, I I covered the Lindsey Clansancy story when it first happened. It's heartbreaking.
[ __ ] heartbreaking. I can't And I have mixed feelings about it. what she did is heinous and disgusting.
I just don't believe that she for a second that like Patrick Clancy uh her ex-husband is testifying for who has apparently remarried and and and that poor [ __ ] guy is testifying on her behalf.
That poor [ __ ] guy.
And uh you know it just I can't [ __ ] with that case. It's too sad. It's too [ __ ] sad. I can't do it. I can't do it, man. And it's just it because it's just the worst story ever. That's what it is. And I can't watch that and watch her and be like, she's a monster.
I can't do it, right? Cuz I don't think she is. I think she's [ __ ] sick. And I think that's what Patrick Clancy testified to that he said. He told the New Yorker, "I didn't marry a killer. I married someone who got sick.
And it's just like how horrible, you know, how horrible. That guy lost everything, man.
Everything.
Everything.
And if he feels that way, who am I to feel otherwise? That's the way I view that. And I can't do it because I'm not rooting for her. You know what I mean? I can't root for her. She killed her kids.
How can I root for her? What? You know what I mean? How can I root for her after what she did?
How can I root for someone I can't root for someone like that? She killed three of her [ __ ] kids, man. Horrible. The worst thing imaginable.
But at the same time, I don't think it's just it's just it scares the [ __ ] out of me that somebody that somebody who has was perfectly normal before that could turn into a monster like that because of mental dis. I don't you'll never convince me that that was not some very sick that she was a very very sick person suffering from some horrible mental health affliction.
Um and that she's going to be in hell mental health the rest of her life. And you look at the pictures of her family before that and it's just godamn awful.
Awful. I can't watch it, man. It's I'll watch some of it, I'm sure, but it's just gonna all going to be some of the most horrific testimony ever mixed in with mental health experts and and stuff like that. Um, and people are, well, yeah, it's like people, you can root for her because she was poisoned by those drugs that changed her. Yeah, but she still killed three of her kids, man. It's just sucks.
And what's going to happen? Like, she's dangerous, isn't she? I mean, you What What are you going to go free? She's going to walk the streets. What's going to happen with her? You know what I mean? What's What's going to happen to her? Like, what's the correct outcome for this thing? Even if we if even if it is determined that she was, you know, all [ __ ] up from mental health and drugs and all that. Okay. She still killed three of her kids. Then what?
How does that work? She's going to be acquitted and go free. How's that going to work? At least Dr. Lapatus is back.
That's true. Dr. Labasad will be back.
Uh, you know, so it's just I can't do it. I can't do it. I have kids of my own. I can't do it. I can't watch it. So anyway, that's that. It wasn't one of these things where some people kill their kids to be like, you know, that just to be free like Chris Watts. Like he did it because he wanted a new [ __ ] life, you know, and like just new girl and whatever. like just kills his like that's whatever that that's [ __ ] them obviously but anyway that's just my thoughts.
Oh anyway. All right. So thanks for that. Uh next um we have here Allison sends 25 bucks goes together we stand. Yes we do. Britney sends five bucks and goes hello turtle boy. I'm praying your case will be dismissed. I want to motion a concern of mine. You should try to change December 7th date because it's tight. You have to do jury selection testimony, long videos and deliberations before the week of Christmas or do jury selection early. I don't know how long jury selection is going to take. Jury selection is going to start December 7th if so I don't know how long that's going to take to pick a full jury. I don't know. Uh Karen Reed took two or three weeks.
So there's going to be a lot of pe It's going to be a Norfick County jury. I am constitutionally allowed to have a Norfick County jury even though it doesn't have to take place in Norfick County. It sounds from the sounds of it today, it sounds like this judge is inclined to have it in Boston because why should he be inconvenienced?
Everyone else can be inconvenienced instead. So uh that seems to be the path that we're headed down. I don't care where it's held. I mean, I do obviously I would much prefer it being in Denim, but I don't think he gives a [ __ ] about that. Um because costwise, it is much more expensive to park in Boston every day and to I mean the [ __ ] costs are going to be astronomical if I have to do a trial in Boston. So, we are going to really have to kick it up a notch, man.
So, sign up if you haven't already for the golf tournament. You want to show your support, come to the [ __ ] golf tournament August 3rd. I think it's happening two weeks from today. Sign up for that. Okay.
So, thank you for that. Um, Britney Melissa sends 10 bucks goes, "I love both your intro and outro songs.
However, I think they need to switch places for when you play them. The current intro has a nice mellow vibe."
Okay, thanks. Awesome. Thank you.
Appreciate it. And she says, "Free Turtle Boy." Thanks, Melissa. Joyce sends sandbox goes, "Did Bradle tell you to remove your sunglasses for the press conference?" You picked up on that. He did. I don't know why he said that, but uh you know, because I think I look cool in his [ __ ] sun. We were staring east directly at the sun, but yes, he did.
He's like, "Take your sunglasses off."
Like, okay. All right. Next. Um Oxana sends a hundred bucks. Thanks, Oxana.
And says, "You are going to win. No jury will ever find you anything but innocent. Those 12 people will be turtle riders for life. We the people are all turtle people for life. That's so true.
That is so true. Will I get to interview one of my own jurors when I'm acquitted like the way I interviewed Paula?
[laughter] Because that's a good point.
You know, if we go to a jury trial and I am acquitted by this jury, aren't they all going to be turtle riders automat? They have to start watching my show after that. So, there we go. So, thanks.
Uh, next. Dustin sends 25 bucks. Goes, "Julie said it was scary after John died. Why say scary unless you are scared to hear the truth that might come to light?" Yes, we'll talk about that tomorrow. Mary sends 10 bucks. Goes, "You inspire in Minneapolis. I'm so proud of you. You are discussed in my daughter's law school classes." Okay, love it. Thanks. Love Minnesota.
Minnesota. Uh, let me see if we have any cash apps here. Uh, cash app is dollar sign, Uncle Turtle Boy, by the way.
>> [sighs] >> No, don't have any. Okay, that's cool, though. Um, yeah. All right. Anyway, um All right, cool. What do we got here?
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Hello, your honor for Carney. To my left is our client. Good morning, Mr. Good morning, Mr. Okay, folks. We have a number of things to do today. A lot of time, so let's jump right in. Mind though, those of uh those are joining us by Zoom. If you haven't registered for the SJC rule 1.19 broadcast is inappropriate and unlawful subject I'm happy to go through in the order that you set for us in your order had some discussions with council on some of the issues and I don't give that first >> uh yes >> there was already a full motion to dismiss both in which a 36 or 37 page decision which is an exceptionally situation in which he helps for the majority of the indictments but dismissed all of them including the one that seems to be at the heart of >> so this is the biggest hurdle we knew we were going to face going into this is that they're going to be like you've already done a motion to dismiss why are you bringing this forward now and uh you know the truth of the matter is we missed it and we also didn't get certain discovery the first time around and so it's like yes tech did we not tech should we have put this in the first motion that's missed. Yeah. Okay. Missed it. There was a lot of [ __ ] going on and quite frankly, a lot of [ __ ] was going on at the time. Whatever. It's not an excuse, but that's the reason. And if you want, but the fact of the matter is there was [ __ ] a foot at the grand jury. So, better get it right than not like address it at all. Like, do do we care about what actually is right here or do we care about well, you're not supposed to do a second one. have a second bite at the apple. Like what's right is right. Period.
>> Mr. So the first issue is this 13 versus um which is 492 mass 242 case matter has was not raised. It's considered. So tell me um why >> somebody said the just sorry Grant but people said the sound on justice served.
I just want to try the sound unjustice served. Hold on.
But I don't see Oh, uncut. Oh, he's got Oh, wow. Wow. This is interesting.
>> Is not open. See it?
>> Oh, wow.
>> Good morning. Four mwall versus Kernney North County dockets 2382 CR 313 and 2582 CR88. Council for the record, please.
>> Your honor.
>> Good morning, Mr. including the one that seems to be um at the heart of a number of these motions that is to say against Mr. Proctor. So the first issue is this under rule 13 and under common versus delostos which I'm sure you've reviewed um which is um 492 mass 242 2023 case if the matter has um was not raised it's considered waved. So tell me um why I understand the issues with Miss Peters may have been disclosed post that hearing at least to some extent. Um tell me what the other issues aren't waved under delto. It's interesting that he brought that up because we went into this kind of thinking. We weren't going to talk about the Crusty Panty stuff a lot because it's just too convoluted.
We were going to focus on the grand jury [ __ ] that you know they lied about the titles. It's just outrageous.
But the judge seemed to be much more interested.
He seemed to think that the Crusty Panty stuff was a lot more problematic than anything else. Did you guys notice that he wanted that? I'm like, "Oh, that's interesting." Okay.
>> Was there another issue you want me to focus on?
>> No, that's to start. Then we'll get the sub.
>> Thank you, your honor. Judge, it is true that many of these issues existed in a grand jury transcript and motions that were ruled upon by Judge Dan. That that is correct. And rule 13 does state what it states, but there is case law which also states that the court does have the power to reconsider or re-evaluate issues which were not brought to the court's attention. Now, in this particular case, there's no question that issues that related to the wiretapping, the uncharged wiretapping, for example, could have been raised as the issues related to some of the videos in this case, the name changes, the court should be aware that for whatever reason, that snuck by everybody, including Judge Doula, including Mr. Cosro and some of his filings, and as soon as that was picked up, that is something that we put into writing and addressed right away. The reality is the grand jury in this case was not proper.
I mean I think and I'll get to that in a minute after answering your owner's question about the waiver issue but in terms of the form over substance form over substance it's it's substantive rule 13 is substance delto is substantive and there's a reason for that and and the common opposition has pointed it out can't you can't keep retailing the same ground over and over and over somebody move forward so it's not just form over substance so you got to give me a little more than that >> well has permits it judge um and >> at the court's discretion you got to have a reason >> absolutely there is discretion of the court to ultimately decide what should be done and what shouldn't but where the court sees prejudice the court respectfully should act now again with the that were mislabeled. The Commonwealth shouldn't benefit from what is >> and by the way the Crusty panty stuff which clearly interested this judge the most. Where do those come from the better letters which is so ironic because these idiots always make fun of them. They're like, "Oh, draw them in crayon." Well, the judge seemed kind of interested in the crayons, didn't he?
>> Clearly deceptive conduct in terms of renaming items that again nobody saw.
Judge Dan himself referred to the names by their improper name during his ruling, >> which presumes that Judge Dan was aware of those names and didn't find them to be of any substance because he watched the actual videos.
>> I don't know. Well, the actual videos that were presented to the grand jury, your honor, were 40 second snippets of hours long video, which were not grand jury exhibits. So, respectfully, there's no way that Judge Dulan could have watched those videos because Mr. Melo and >> Did you watch the clips? No doubt.
>> Yes, but the clips are tiny segments.
>> That's what I'm like, I don't think he's getting this. It's like, yeah, he watched the video. We don't deny that he watched the videos. Of course he watched the videos. The videos are the problem.
The videos are snippets. Again, we need to go and watch this real quick. Okay, if you haven't watched this video entitled Turtle Boys Witness Intimidation Charges, what the mainstream media didn't report, a video I published on, what date was this?
March 4th of 2025. Here are some examples of what happened. Okay, >> with money without you know a live stream. See for yourself [music] just made it seem like I was these charges really are.
The Commonwealth made it seem like I was threatening to visit the home of witnesses relentlessly in a live stream, but actual video shows I was talking about returning to Canton to see a DPW worker who was giving me the runaround.
94 February returns to Canon. This is a video post of witness. This is not my >> This is not my last trip to Canton again. Th This is what got me indicted.
These videos got me indicted.
>> My last trip to Canton. I will be back.
I'll be back. Get used to this. These people think pardon me. These people think I'm [ __ ] around. You haven't seen the last of them. Get used to it.
Get used to it. At the 119 mark, >> they combined from two different clips.
I will be back was encouraging people not to be afraid of the McAlberts. He was this is not my last trip to Canton.
I will be back. And more and more I think people are getting like a year or so ago people didn't want to cooperate with Karen and read the defense team because like it's easier to keep my head down and you know whatever and keep a low profile. But now you know now they're like [ __ ] it. You know we made people realize like you don't have nothing to be afraid of. The big bad monster is not going to bite you. We knew it their ass. They can't do anything. They're not so tough anymore are they?
>> This is not my last camp. Like exactly like that needs to be stated, right?
That that that part you just heard was not played for the grand jury. That people were scared. That was the intimidators were the McAlberts.
There was an element of fear in Canton from people like Tom Bey and Lucky Lan who didn't want to talk, who were intimidated because the McAlberts were using their influence and their bullying in town to get do not talk. Oh, you want what is Aaron Bey say? She's telling people about that call. Tell her to shut the [ __ ] up and put a dick in her mouth.
That's what they were doing to the town's folk until daddy came along. And all of a sudden, I just made these people realize you don't got to the big bad witch is dead. Munchkins, come out and play. That's what I'm saying. That I'll be back. Listen, >> I will be back. I'll be back. Get used to this. These people think, pardon me, these people think I'm [ __ ] around.
You haven't seen the last of me. Get used to it. Get used to it. 191.
>> These people think I'm [ __ ] around.
You haven't seen the last of me. Get used to it. Get used to it. But the Commonwealth makes it seem like I'm talking about harassing the Mcalberts, which obviously sounds bad, but this was intentionally deceptive, right? I was actually referring to a DPW employee who was giving me the runaround, and I said that I would be back to get information on who plowed Fairview Road the night that John O'Keefe was killed.
>> She goes, "How do I spell the last name, sir?" She had already written out my first name and spelled it correctly. She knows who I am. She didn't have to ask my first name. She didn't even have to ask what my last name was. She just asked how to spell it. She had already spelled my name. She knows who I am at this point. People are messaging me now and they're saying that she is a she is a friend. She lives in Tim Albert's neighborhood and she is best friends with the Weeks girls. That is McCabe's sisters. So, this is what we're dealing with here. This is the home cooking. So, I'll be back. Miss uh >> Oh. Oh, >> Miss Boy's regular.
>> I'll be back. You haven't seen the last of me because he never called. Walsh.
She never called me today.
>> Oh, they didn't put that part in. Walshy never called me. They just put I'll be back. You haven't seen the last of me.
And they claim I'm talking about the Mc Alberts. I'm not talking about about the Mc Alberts. I'm talking about this woman. I still don't know her name. Boys regular. Okay. She's a government employee who is giving me the runaround.
And I'm there to ask about who plowed Fairview Road the night that John O'Keefe was killed. I know the answer's Lucky Lock. I'm trying to get speak to somebody about it that will admit this.
And she's like, "Nope. Walsh isn't here.
Uh, you know, nobody's here. TRA is not here. Nobody's here. And I'm like, I'll be back. I'll be back. They had to blatantly lie by playing that small snippet. I'll be back.
I'll be back. That's all they played.
Try to never call me. If you think you're going to get rid of me that easily, you're badly mistaken. I will literally sit there all day. All day.
Like, we'll order Chinese. I'll make a I'll make a day of it. I'll just sit there all freaking day because he's got to come back sometime. I'll be like I have unfinished business. We didn't see Michael Morsey today. I'll be back. Like get used to this. Like >> Yeah. You know, it's like this is We didn't like include every detail of what wasn't played and what was played. It was 88 pages long to begin with and like would you like it? I mean, shouldn't there be It doesn't It doesn't matter what. Like, yes, all this [ __ ] would have helped. The fact of the matter is you didn't play anything. If all of this [ __ ] helped you, why not just play the whole thing? These people think I'm [ __ ] around like a Mr. Internet guy and I'm gonna sit here and I'm going to write blogs all day and it's okay.
You're just writing blogs and just ignore them, whatever. No, no, no. I live an hour away. It's not I got Alexis now. It's not a problem.
>> It's got good It's got great mileage >> and a good engine. I'll be there in an hour. No problem.
>> Like I'll get used to it.
>> Get used to it.
>> Get used to it. I say >> the Commonwealth alleges I intimidated Chris Al. So yeah, with this one, I want to get to the intent part where they talk about intent. All right, listen to this.
Right.
>> There we go. Shameful man right there. Chris Albert.
>> To commit witness intimidation, you must attempt to impede, obstruct, or interfere with a trial.
Okay.
Brian Tully told the grand jury that my speech was witness intimidation because I said, quote, "I don't want this to go to trial because that's a big thing.
They have the hardest part for them is to prove intent."
Okay. Oh, it's boring. Banned for life.
Banned.
That is an unacceptable opinion. Banned for life. Okay. So, um, Brian, so I don't want this to go to trial. I said so I they need to show intent and that's going to be hard for them to do because they can all say we're emotionally harmed. That means [ __ ] if you can't prove that I intended to do that, right?
And so that I intended to harm you so that you don't testify and the trial doesn't go forward. And so all this is the best quote they have for me is I don't want this to go to trial. Okay.
Well, let's hear because that's what that's the clip that they played to the grand jury. What about the whole thing?
>> 604 entitled Colin Albert drops out of school, Brian Higgins flipping the engineer. I said from the beginning, I don't want this to go to trial. That is this defendant's words himself. I don't want this to go to trial referencing the Karen Reed case.
>> But the Commonwealth intentionally left out that I was speaking in favor of a motion to dismiss. Oh, >> I clearly stated that I would love for this to go to trial because it would be entertaining.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> But that I thought the ethical and moral thing to do was to dismiss the case.
>> Oh, look at you all ethical.
>> I've said from the beginning that I do not want this to go to trial. Not that I fear her getting found guilty or anything like that, but just that's a sham. Like it should never go like this should be dropped.
>> So all they played was the part that said I don't want this to go to trial.
That's it. They don't play anything that comes after that. They didn't play this.
>> If there's any justice in the world, these charges should be dropped.
>> Oh. And the people that actually did this should be charged for it.
>> Oh, why don't you play this?
>> At the same time, like how long can this go on for? Like, and how much stress does this take on a human being? Like, this has to be putting years on Karen Reed, like mentally.
>> So, for her sake, it's like, wouldn't the best thing for her be to just get this over with? Like, let's [ __ ] dance.
>> Oh, and have a trial.
>> Let's dance. If you were her, like, don't like, let's go. Let's [ __ ] do it. Like, I >> Oh, so have a trial. So, have a trial.
That's what you're saying. Oh, but they just told me that your intent was not to have a trial and then you're saying that there should be a oh not wanting to and this has been my position from the beginning because I've thought about being in this position before and just the roller coaster that must be happening in your stomach in those few hours where you're sitting there waiting for a jury bird to come back like and you see like when Kyle Writtenhouse was exonerated like he [ __ ] like it was authentic. broke down crying like it was it was crazy like like it's just like so much can change in in one word and you know either with not just if the word not is in there your isn't in there your whole life is over like it's like imagine that life in prison or you go on to become a very wealthy person and that's what she will be after it's a very wealthy person and deservedly so um book deals and got you know movie rights and god knows what she'll get out of this or life in prison now there's like a 99.99 >> stay away from the first one stay away from okay >> would you want that like would you get on a plane if you thought there was a 1% chance that plane would crash. No.
>> Would you want to get on that plane?
>> Oh, >> you know, wouldn't you rather just like if like, I'll just [ __ ] drive.
>> But then driving is expensive and you're stuck in traffic and you're like, "Fuck it, I'm jumping on a plane. This isn't worth it." And that's kind of the position that I think she's in. And like >> obvious it's selfish on my part and on all of our part. I think that we would love to see a trial. Oh, honestly, that would be great for us. Like, >> wait, you would love to see a trial? I thought they said that your intent was to not go to trial. Why didn't they play that for the grand jury?
What? What are they hiding? Why are they being deceptive to the grand jury? Why are you And the judge today said something to the effect of, "Shouldn't the grand jurors figure that out on their own?" What? [laughter] Like what do they have? You met people before? You think people are just going to be like, "Well, there's got to be more than that, sir. Show me the whole thing. I want to hear the whole thing."
Nobody's gonna say that. They're just gonna be like, "Well, I guess they Yeah, that sounds pretty bad.
That sounds pretty bad." So, like, like as if a bunch of grand jurors gonna be like, "Hold on. Hold on, sir.
Are you trying to sneak one by us?
Are you trying to hide something from us there, Mr. Tully? Nobody's going to say that because we trust our institutions.
That's the whole point. Our institutions have betrayed us. They've betrayed us.
It would be wild and it would be so entertaining and we could watch Alan Jackson just freaking eviscerate. Oh, can you like I get hard thinking about it, man. About thinking about what Alan Jackson and David Detti and Les Little will do to Michael Proctor on the stand.
>> And that is exactly what I'm saying here. I go I was being empathetic to her mental health condition. I go, I don't think it's right cuz I believe she's innocent. And even though it would be very entertaining for me and all of us cuz it and it turned out to be very entertaining. It was a highly publicized trial that millions of people watched from around the world. Turtle boy was right. Right. Even though I got I love that. I still think it was wrong to do to her. She is human after all. She shouldn't have had to be put through that. That's wrong to do to people. I'm worried about her mental health, right? She's all [ __ ] up from it.
That's not witness intimidation. That's being human. That's what that is. Or Jennifer McCabe.
>> Oh. Oh, listen. Listen to this guy.
>> He's getting Oh, I get I get turned on thinking about it. I'm not going to lie.
>> Oh, >> it's so exciting. It's so exciting. Keep it in your pants. I think I also think about Karen's father in a way.
>> Oh, so not only do I want to see a trial in that same clip, which they didn't play. I talk about getting sexually aroused by the thought of a trial. That's how much I wanted to see a trial. That it was literally making my dick hard. Like the thought of a trial. Like I am f I am going to fix a million fridges tonight.
That's how that trial. Line them up.
Line them up. Let's go. We're fixing fridge after fridge after fridge tonight. That's how much the thought of Jennifer McCabe on the stand with Alan Jackson. That's what it did to me. It was better than porn. Okay. I wanted it bad.
And they're out here being like, he didn't want a trial. That was his intent. [ __ ] it was the exact opposite. Play the tape. they didn't play the tape and a brother and what they're going through and like what like it's not as fun for them and so like do I they would obviously much rather just see this get dropped but like I don't know if that's gonna happen like you know what I mean so it's like let's just [ __ ] get in a room and [ __ ] like let's just do it let's get this over with let's go and whoever wins wins and we know who's going to win you're not going to find you are not going to find 12 people that are going to believe yeah she [ __ ] did that commonwealth claims I harassed and intimidated Michael >> proc that whole video if you haven't got the chance I mean this video shows all of them in the context of this all okay about everything that was hidden from this grand jury everything like it's wild okay back to the so none of that was shown and you know well here's >> of larger videos that again when we get to the real meat of what I want to discuss with the court would show the full context on the critical issue in this case which is only one and that's Mr. 's intent. That's the only issue that was really before the grand jury and none of that was seen in Judge Nulan's opinion because none of that was before >> because it wasn't raised.
>> Well, it wasn't raised but it wasn't known by anyone. Now, again, could it have been? Yes. But the court has the discretion, >> but but it was known because Judge Dan referred to it by the titles that you think are inflammatory.
>> Yes. Those are the names that he was provided by the Commonwealth that were changed. Those were the improper names.
Names that the Commonwealth knew in advance were not the proper names and were changed. And ultimately, your honor, as a matter of discretion, there's no prejudice to the Commonwealth here by having this. I I suspect this argument, which is fair argument to make, is their primary argument because they don't want to talk about what actually occurred in the grand jury. And the fact of the matter is everybody sees it. Everybody knows what it is and it ought to be addressed. If there's no prejudice to the Commonwealth, the court should hear it. No indictment should be tolerated when it is rife with misleading evidence, distorted evidence, statements of prosecutors and and police witnesses saying, "In my opinion, it was this man's intent to commit witness intimidation." That's outrageous behavior in front of a grand jury. And when you get down to brass tax in this case, that's all that this is about.
They misled the grand jury on the only issue that matters, which is whether Mr. Carney's intent was to commit witness intimidation or not. The conduct at issue is open and shut. It's the videos, not the videos that were submitted into the grand jury. Those are tiny snippets.
The conduct and the context of Mr. Carney's intent are contained in the actual videos. And what you have at this point is very similar to Odell itself.
In essence, you have prosecutors cherry-picking 30 seconds they like out of a two-hour video and saying, "This proves his intent was to intimidate witnesses, but not letting the brain jury have access to another two hours, which show him saying, "I want to bring awareness to a miscarriage of justice involving Karen Reed. I'm petitioning the government to address that. I believe that these police officers are corrupt. We're doing this to bring justice for these people." The grand jury had a right to that. And the best example of this, your honor, to get a full picture of what you're dealing with is all of the picketing counts in this case are from this so-called rolling rally. That entire video, the whole rally was recorded, video recorded by Mr. Carney, literally the crime, if you will.
>> They didn't introduce that video. But what they did, >> what they did do was interview admit, excuse me, 58 seconds of the rolling rally, which which the honest name of that video on YouTube was Canton, the rolling rally justice for Karen Reed and John O'Keefe. They took 58 seconds of that video. They introduced it as the title of that video is don't feel sorry for the O'Keefe. That's not evidence.
But if you look at the grand jury testimony and the transcript, the way Melo and Tully did this is Tully said the name of the video is don't feel sorry for the O'Keefe. It's contained in a folder literally titled intent.
Literally >> literally titled intent. Like don't feel sorry for the O'Keefe. The O'Keefes aren't even They didn't try to indict me for the O'Keefe. They're not saying I intimidated the O'Keefe. What other reason is there to play that and say the video is titled that other than to make be like this guy's a bad guy here? We know that the Mcalabberts aren't sympathetic, but what about the O'Keefe's? Their brother died. Paul's brother died and he's being mean to Paul.
Like Peggy O'Keefe, think about poor Peggy. Paul's over there. John's over there. John's dead. Like that. That's what they're saying here. It's just like oh my god. This is outrageous. It's and honest people wouldn't do this. Like why are you doing this if I'm so guilty? And where did they get these names from?
Like this matters. So I want to show you something. I don't know if anyone's ever seen this before.
Okay, this is from a live stream from 2024.
Okay. On some channel I've never heard of before.
some weirdo named Arty, I guess, is this guy's name. I don't know. It looks like a weirdo. Uh, let me pull him up here.
Okay. Some weird Okay, let's see. I I've never seen this stream before, but I'm going to pull it up here.
Okay. Uh, Arty's Corporate Fiction.
Okay. And oh nope. So yeah, that guy's keep him away from your kids, obviously.
Uh let me see.
Can you guys hear that audio? Let me know if you can hear this audio. If not, I'll change it.
Who's mom?
Can you guys hear this?
Nothing. Okay. Uh, let me change my input for my microphone.
This again.
Okay.
All right. Settings. Audio.
Testing. One, two, three. You guys can hear testing. Okay, cool. What about now? Let me know if you can hear this now.
Can you hear this? Can you hear this, guys?
Can you hear this?
You still can't hear it. All Hold on.
Um, >> how about now? Can you hear now?
>> Twitch and kick as well.
>> How about now?
Hopefully now. Okay, now you can. Now you can hear it. Okay, cool.
>> Um, >> okay.
>> Oh no, where did I >> So, he plays some [ __ ] of he takes position. I'm guilty. But I want you to notice the chat.
>> Something. This is Jen. She's in Aruba.
And there she is with her her two oldest daughters who I'm sure going to grow up and be just like her. Uh they're on a family vacation there. And this I you know, she's monitoring everything we're doing. And it's just it makes me so happy when I posted this because I'm just it's just a reminder to her that now now is you now you can't leave. You know, we're not gonna allow you, Jen, to live a normal life. The worst thing you ever did was go down to the courthouse and try to get an order on me. That's the dumbest thing you could have done.
>> True.
>> Now I know how much it's bothering you.
>> And that is like a green light to just accelerate. Like, okay, >> now we got you.
>> Do I am I even logged into an account and not logged in? Okay.
Everyone's got rings.
>> So, all right. So, I want to I want to first I want to I know this is an awkward place to to to talk about it.
And I'm sure I'm sure the the the the lawn crime network obviously missed out on a lot of other details that have been >> Okay. So, I want to show you a comment.
I don't see it there in the current live chat, but I got a screenshot of it.
I don't know if live chat comments could be taken down or not. We'll find out.
But I mean, it's obviously a [ __ ] chat. Um, I was in jail when this was put out. And I want to show you somebody who appeared in the chat who you might recognize on this. And they said something interesting.
There it is. Okay, this is a screenshot from that chat.
You see any names that look familiar in that chat?
Oh, what does that say?
Oh, it's mass mafia official.
And they say, "I am in contact with all of Aiden's victims, including these witnesses, every day.
This video he is playing, I made for the grand jury. It helped indict him."
That's her words. I made this video that this guy is playing, bragging about it.
I I'm so proud of this. I made this video for the grand jury. It helped indict him. I made that me for juror of documents. I made this. This is a 2024 January 2024 live stream. Kurt from Univil Law is in the chat there. Crusty Panties is in the chat and she is bragging about doing this to me. I did this. So proud. She's very proud of herself. I did this. I I sent that in. I I gave that to the grand jury. She's bragging about it. I just got this sent to me today.
And I got this sent I also saw these.
This is from Discord.
Okay. She is the red commenter in the chat. Goes by Linda. She can change her name on here all the time. This is in her Discord chat.
This is in January of 2023.
This is before Karen Reed. Okay. She was constantly trying to get me charged with something. And so she had this private Discord server in which somebody flipped. A woman by the name of Michelle.
she flipped that has given me these screenshots that she has. And Michelle says here, like in this chat, Crusty says she's in the red. Okay. And she goes, "I think this may be what ends him." This is in January of 2023. She says this, she has been trying to end me for like that's her life mission is ending me. This is the Karen Reed case is just her latest attempt to end me.
She's been doing this forever. It's been an obsession. It's [ __ ] And no law enforcement has taken her seriously until she found the most corrupt law enforcement institution in the state, the Norfolk County DA's office. Okay?
Because they don't mind associating with somebody like her. Right? And she goes, I think this may be what ends him. What are they talking about? Something related to Leah Janduso here. Right?
There are Leah Janduso cannot [ __ ] quit me. I again I I I exposed that she was a corrupt state trooper in 2018.
She lost her job over it. She reached out to me two years later.
Wanted to come on my show for an interview to fix her image. She did. I banged her and then that went badly and ever since then porned me and has been obsessed with me since 2020 cannot take my name out of her mouth. Cannot do it. But friends, any woman that I've been in a relationship with, stalked Lauren Murray, went to Lauren Murray's house, took pictures of her, right? Uh took pictures of her house. We have those.
She took a picture of it from her car.
You can see in the rearview mirror there the reflection of her white automobile at the time. Boom. Okay. Uh she uh we she reached out to Lindsay. We saw that in Lindsay's extraction, right? And tried to recruit her. I'm going to introduce you to Kate. We're gonna we have a cool crew over here doing this, right? And of course now 5150 will be the new friend. It's just what they do.
It's just like I have this effect on women. they cannot [ __ ] move on.
And so she's here saying Crusty saying we're going to get him for something related to Leah here. I think this might end him.
And then Shiz, who is dump dump truck goes, I don't get why her police department won't do it. whatever bull they would just bring [ __ ] about me to the police constantly and the police would just not do anything cuz it's [ __ ] [ __ ] and like that's not illegal. I don't know what you want me to say and they're like I why aren't they doing anything?
And then you know that sounds very optimistic of the investigator. Hope there will be something positive answers now. She must go there and report him.
And then Crusty says it's an internet-based crime. If he gets charged, they may order him offline.
[laughter] This is literally her thought process. This is her whole goal is like, I'm going to get him kicked off the internet. Like a judge could be like, you are not allowed. You are banned from the internet for life. That's her goal.
Then she goes, "If he gets convicted, it may be for a meaningful amount of time."
So like she was constantly trying to get charges on me all the time for everything I do until she found and again every police department laughed at her until she found the Norfolk until she found Yuri Buchanek. Okay, this is the practice we need. She calls it practice. I'm practice. If we can take him out and learn from this, we can move on to bigger bad actors. I am filled with purpose today. So this is what she w this is her purpose in life every day is to get me kicked offline and sent me to jail.
Okay.
And then she's like, "Here's all a Google doc of all the LGTB videos."
And then this is um what was this guy's name? John something. Obach doxed him a while ago from Washington State. I forget John's name. He went by Biff Thunder Muffin on Twitter. It was like Crusty's right-hand man. Some weirdo in Everett Washington and said, "Oh, I did get all those Facebook videos downloaded.
There may be some Leah stuff on there.
All his late 2019, early 2020 lives on YouTube are gone." No, they're not. I will have a look. And then somebody goes, "The police are becoming pretty slow to respond again." And this is an email that she posted from Detective Lieutenant, well, Sergeant then, Evan Parker from the Holden Police Department, who she contacts constantly.
He's kind of like the lead detective in town. And it says, "Response for request for comment." He goes, "Good morning, Miss Peter. I will be in the office today and can be reached on my work client. It seems as though you are requesting the Holden Police Department comment about a case or report that you are looking into. And I want to advise you that unless the case involves you directly, we will not be able to answer any questions. Please reach out as I believe we can address some of your concerns for you. So they went to the Holden police to report me for something involving Leah Janduso and nothing came of it. And so Crusty contacts the police and is like, "Why aren't you I'm a reporter doing a story and I want to know why you're not arresting Turtle Boy. Why aren't you doing something about Turtle Boy? Why aren't you arresting him?" And the Holden police are like, "Yeah, [ __ ] This doesn't involve you. Go away." Like that's what that email is saying. Go away.
And she goes, I was working on an outline.
This is Crusty and Red for the video about Aiden and LG.
I am emailing Holden police and Leah's local police for comment on their refusal to investigate and throwing out that I'm going to be airing this story to tens of thousands of people. She's so danger. Oh no. Picture like the Holden police or whatever [ __ ] ship I'm town Leah lives in their police being like, "Oh no, hope Crusty Panties doesn't write about me. I'm so scared. I guess I'll arrest Turtle Boy." Now, what we need to do is number one, lock down this story with clips of him, etc. Number two, find as many places online where we can promote this after it's done. Working title is cyber terror.
alt-right blogger terrorizes former Massachusetts state trooper. This is her [ __ ] life. You've never seen this kind of [ __ ] insanity before. This this sort of obsession over a man who never [ __ ] her, by the way. There's no reason. At least Leah can be like, "Whatever. He fixed my fridge. Okay, I'm a little [ __ ] crazy over that. I'm a crazy white girl. Like, whatever." You know, I'm just one of those [ __ ] She can't She has no excuse for this [ __ ] Like, it's weird.
Uh [laughter] they're like, "Oh my god." And what are they saying here? Okay. I have no memory. This is uh So Turtle Boy secrets is dump truck.
Sorry to spam. We need anything to do with LG. Leah Jinduso.
She's got one shot at criminal charges.
It needs to be solid as [ __ ] trying to get everything compiled today so she can go make a report. Okay.
Okay. This is what they do all day. And this is the person who is bragging that she is the reason that these videos are in front of the grand jury. She is the reason for this [ __ ] Okay.
Play some more.
And he did that approximately 30 times throughout this proceeding. told the grand jury this is proof of his intent.
They literally ask questions and answers to talk about intent. They play 30 to 50 seconds of this video where he literally says don't feel bad for Yokes, but yet don't present the video of the crime.
Why? What prosecutor?
>> But their allegation is that is the crime.
>> Your honor, [clears throat] again, it goes to Odell. Literally, they can believe anything they want. They can allege any anything they want, >> but they're not alleging that the rest of the rally was intimidated. They're alleged they're alleging those clips intimidation, >> right? But your honor, when they present it to the grand jury, it's canamount to what happened.
>> They didn't play any clips of the rolling rally. The rolling rally is 2 hours and 7 minutes long. That's how long that video is. They played 58 seconds of it. And guess what? They didn't play any of my actual doing the rolling rally. The one part they played was a snippet when I was in the car talking to Richie telling him that I no longer feel bad for the O'Keefe. That's it. They didn't play anything. So, how do they even know what happened at the rolling rally? Well, that came from the witnesses. Jennifer McCabe testified about what happened at the rolling rally and yet there's a video of it and they didn't play it.
That would be like if somebody robbed a bank and live streamed themselves doing it and then when they went to indict him, they didn't share the video of him robbing the bank.
Bro, I if if I'm such a dangerous Why not play the video? Play the video. Show what happened. Why are you so afraid of showing my witness intimidation? I'm this big bad intimidator and I'm stupid enough that I filmed it all, but yet you won't play it. Why won't you play the whole thing?
That's our point here.
It's dishonest.
It's dishonest to do this.
>> Odell with the police report where we decide we like sentence one because we think it proves his intent, but we don't like sentences 2, three, four, and five.
So, we're just going to keep that from the grand jury. In Odell, that was deemed to have impaired the integrity of >> But but police report in a video very different things. We we we often encounter situations with the grand jury where they have hours and hours of videotape, but they only play certain clips, >> but they didn't tell the grand jury it's available for you. The point is they told the grand jury the name of the video is uh you know jury influence is another one which was actually titled protesting Michael Marcy. Big difference. A video that was 5 days after DA Marcy made a statement to the press to which was improper. He gives a two-hour video and says, "I'm trying to bring awareness, trying to do this and do that, and this is in August of 2023 will before a trial." And says, you know, absolutely, I want to influence the public and the jury pool. And they take that little snippet. They may have a theory that enables them to say, "We believe that's proof of his intent."
That's fine.
>> No, it's the judge. It's not that he's not getting it. It's that he's made his mind up. That's it. I knew that going into this. I could I knew when in January that he made his mind up. He wants a trial. He clearly wants a trial.
like it's like we're going to trial.
This is just an annoyance that we got to get through before we go to trial. That that's what he wants. Like the odds of me getting this these charges dismissed has always been small. I mean, things don't get dismissed around here. Karen Reed didn't get dismissed. That's it.
>> What's not permissible though is >> And you know what the irony of this is?
They say that I'm trying to influence Karen Reed's jury pool by discussing the case openly on a platform, right? Well, jurors are going to potential jurors are going to see this. Is that influencing a jury a jury pool? Well, the jury pool is composed of people. And if people watch this, then I suppose yeah, a lot of people raised their hand when they said they'd heard of the Karen retrial and were not allowed to be jurors. That's what the whole voardier is for. Like that's you we you weed those people out.
Well, what do you think this hearing is if not influencing my jury pool? Right?
Isn't that all this hearing is? We know he's going to deny it. We assume he's going to deny it, right?
So then what are we doing here?
Isn't this whole thing just airing out the facts of my case, which could hypothetically influence my jury pool? If there What if people in Norfick County are watching this, right?
They're going to be influenced, right?
Influenced by what? Facts. How can you be influenced by facts?
I guess if if you want to say that that's that's not illegal to be influenced by facts. What do you think commercials are? Like that's insane.
It's just like you can't talk about facts. It will influence a jury pool.
Okay. Also known as like saying factual things in the following way to say literally.
Your honor, I can read to you literal.
There's a literal question and answer which is very important. For example, on December 19th, question from Melo to Tully. Before he plays all of these videos which are misnamed, cherrypicked, do you have any knowledge of incidents which you feel are intimidating of a witness with respect to any particular witness? I do. Question. Those are on video. Answer. They are. Play those for the grand jury. So now we've just told the grand jury I think his intent was to intimidate witnesses. Then what Tully does again and again through direct intentional questioning of Melo. It's on volunteer is to say that these videos are named inaccurately. And they're in the memo. You've seen on page 62 and 63 of the motion all the times that they did this. They play the snippet and then when it's over, they tell or before they do it, they tell the grand jury, "These are from a folder marked intent." He didn't do that.
>> You have to give yourself some credit.
The grand jury understands that a defendant is not going to create a folder who says intent. They had to know the prosecution.
>> But that that that's my point, your honor. Huge grand. They understand that.
Your honor, the point is, respectfully, when a police officer tells the grand jury, in my opinion, this man's intent was this. I have a folder with proof of his intent. It came from that folder, I'm going to tell you a false name of the video that I renamed or some third party working with him renamed, whichever the case may be. And then you don't tell the grand jury that this was renamed by us, put in this folder by us.
I'm playing you 30 seconds, but I'm not going to give you the rest of the video.
And I would refer the court. This case is cited in the memo of law that went with the motion. ble the appeals court case, not the SJC, the lower appeals court, where they cherrypicked a portion of a statement of a defendant, left the full flash drive in front of the grand jury, but never alerted them to the contents of it. And in that case, the appeals court found it impaired the integrity by hiding the ball. Here, >> you're going to go there, Mr. Better.
going to go there, then you got to talk to me about Kil Brown, which is the SJC, in which the prosecutor dumped in at least 100 pages of um prison records in which the prosecutor dropped in um telephone logs, all of which had never been looked at or never been read.
>> She killed SGC said, "Well, it wasn't so good." But that's okay because it because it didn't change the it didn't change the analysis of the evidence, which is which takes us back. And this is the diff. This is the difficulty that you have.
>> So, you've already this is why do Santos does matter and it is substantive. Okay?
This is why rule 13 is substantive because you already had a very thoughtful all right a bull work if you will from a judge. All right, a very thoughtful judge who examined in detail the entirety of the grand jury found it to be free from prejudice and more importantly found that the evidence was substantial enough to to to issue an indictment. So that brings us back to the court's analysis in Jaquil Brown which I'll give you the side if you like. I have 490 171 and I'm very familiar with that case. All right. In that case, the court finds clearly they shouldn't have done any of those things, but finds it didn't impair the integrity of the grand jury, which this is why Delisanto is substantive because Judge Dulan's already made that determination. So, you got to get around that.
>> I'm happy to, your honor, the difference with Shaquille Brown and Judge Dulan's decision and why it matters here is context is everything in terms of his intent. He is but in Brown, they're trying to show joint venture and they dump in prison records they haven't even read.
>> Judge, I'm bringing it to this case.
Okay. But but does the SGC tell us this?
>> I understand that. But the facts here matter and the context matters. And just because the prosecution has, you know, a one-s sentence explanation of what they say and a grand jury ultimately determined was proof of intent after they were told what his intent was.
>> This man is worth every penny. And you're just seeing it now. He's just like, I understand that, your honor.
Like he just explains everything perfectly to a judge who is this is a hot bench, you know, which is not an insult, right? He's like, I I understand what you're saying, your honor. I'm obviously familiar with Shaquille Brown. I'm I'm familiar with Disandos. I understand that very politely saying that this is you're missing the point, right? That's what he's trying to say here.
>> By the prosecutor, by all the reasons that we spoke about earlier, it context is everything. If there is a long statement that is talking about protesting and bringing awareness and and making jokes and all kinds of thing and there's a comment in there that I like that comment, just give the grand jury the whole thing. The grand the role of the grand jury is factfinder. The problem in this case is that Melo and Tully decided to be prosecutor deterior is more of a gatekeeper. But go on.
>> But they have to judge respectfully.
They have to find to support an indictment. And in this case, they literally did. But they were misled. And context matters. A grand jury is entitled not to everything in the world.
It's clearly not a trial jury. We all understand that. But when you do it, you have to do it fairly. And they put their finger on the scales with evidence of his intent in terms of what they told the grand jury, what file it was in, the length of the video, the full context of the video, the uncharged crime. But the last piece of evidence in this case that they put in the grand jury was an uncharged crime of again the rolling rally video, which they didn't see fit to give the grand jury, which makes no sense. If anyone's prosecuted these cases and put in cases in grand jury, that makes no sense. That's the crime.
Give it to them. But what they did was they tried to suggest that he was harassing and intimidating the O'Keefe.
So we're not even charged victims in this case. That's how they finished the grand jury. That is clearly a design to prejudice to [clears throat] smear. They put in evidence of an uncharged wiretapping and read the statute that said this is punchable by 5 years and never gave a curative instruction, never withdrew that charge. They lost us or not. Your honor, the question is at what point do we not avert our eyes to what they did? They need to do it fairly.
>> The judge has already looked at that.
But he did see that judge. If you look at Judge Dan's decision, none of that is addressed because he like everyone else was misled. Moreover, judge, I am focused on the grand jury, but I'm going to answer the questions that obviously you're you're focused on. There was a second component to the motion for extreme government misconduct. And there's no reason why >> I'll listen to the Peter stuff. I think you if Peters wasn't known to you, I think that's fair fair to discuss.
>> Well, it it was that came as a surprise when he's like, can we talk about K Peter? Can we talk about Crusty? He's like, I don't really give a [ __ ] about the titles. That's what he's saying.
None of that [ __ ] bothers me. I don't care about the titles. I don't care about the fact that only small clips were played. Whatever the crusty stuff, you might have something there. That that's it was bizarre. But the whole point before I get to the merits of that, that motion would have been made anyway. So that I mean because we can't make a motion based on evidence of which we're unaware obviously. And at that point, if you're making a motion to dismiss for extreme government misconduct, there's no reason why the court should not consider as a facet of the misconduct that occurred in this case what occurred in the grand jury before. Now, as far as the Peter stuff, which I don't want to beat to death, and most of it is in the papers, the point is all of that evidence should have been disclosed in early 2024, which was the, you know, we're closing the deadline for for discovery. That material didn't come anywhere near that timeline. It came in July of 2025 after numerous specific very specific Brady demands and discovery rule 14 demands. They could not have been more specific.
>> So let me understand what is the basis that you're asking to dismiss. Is it for discovery violations or for the substance violations?
>> Well, it's it's for everything on the second component of the motion. The indictments ought to be dismissed based on the impairment of the integrity of grand jury proceeding. Full stop. as far as the second based upon the the lack of discovery >> that prejudiced us from filing a fullthroated motion the first time. The court should consider that in even hearing the grand jury component of it.
In any event, if the court is is wondering why discovery was ordered to be completed in early 2024 and all these demands were made before, during, and after that time period, and stuff that is responsive is showing up in July of 2025 that we in turn turn out to learn was in the possession of every single prosecutor on these cases in December of 2024, which is before the motion was filed in front of Judge Dulan. How what is going on?
>> I consider this to be two separate categories. That's why I started with the issue of Peters may be something which is outside rule 13 and the Tlesantos analysis. Give me give me an open field to discuss that. Okay.
>> Again, he's just like, can we talk about crusty, bro? Let's go.
>> Excuse me, judge.
>> The crusty thing >> the evidence that exists or no longer exists from from the third party that the court mentioned is extremely prejuditial to the to the defense. There is a strong argument that could be put forth if there were to be trial in this case that this investigation was biased.
It was shoddy and that involves any number of things. One of which includes from our perspective which is a shockingly close relationship between a private civilian Peter who you mentioned who has a hatred of Mr. Carney that is beyond adjectives that I could even provide this court with. [laughter] Not only that, this is a witness who has falsified evidence against him.
Literally, this is not in dispute. It's in the motion has forged court filings to try to screw him in in part of their fighting during their lives. Has attacked witnesses for the Commonwealth, Alberts, and tried to get him to say bad things about them when she in fact defamed them. And this person was basically holding Mr. Melo's hand. These are the messages that we got amongst other things telling him what to do. And when we got that affidavit from Tully, oh well, I didn't open or click on any of these links. That's a problem for one reason because they were in their possession, custody, and control. It ought to have been turned over. And what was contained, we don't know. But the but you know, there has to be under Neil a reasonable basis to believe there might be something useful. And the reasonable basis you have is that the person who provided it to Tully that he claims he never opened has committed forgery, fraud, deception, and crimes against him. She's a dishonest person who is working hand in hand with the prosecutors in this case. Now Tully says, "I never opened it and now the links are gone and we were told in filings, you know, it's been dismissed.
It's been deleted by a third party which presumably is Peter and what are we supposed to do and now finding the evidence to support that defense? Just assume it's nothing helpful." Why would we assume that when this woman is bent on destroying that open?
>> What's that?
>> Isn't the shoddy work that he never opened?
>> That's amongst other things.
>> Yeah, >> I said to you that's not what Melo did.
The emails that we got too late in the process literally show Melo and Peter talking and he's asking her help. How do I open this? And Melo says, "Gee, thanks." He literally opened it. Opened what? Where is it? Tully says, "I never opened it. It's deleted." Melo very noticeably never submitted in all the time the prosecution had to respond to the motion. And if the court remembers, they got many graces in deadline extensions to file. Never submitted a sworn statement explaining any of this.
What we got instead was a hearsay statement where where Mr. Cosgrove, and I say this with due respect to Mr. Costco what was essentially cosplaying as Melo saying you know this is what it would be that's not evidence in response what was required is something from Melo under oath and we've never gotten that and and that's very important to me one of the things that we asked for in the motion is as an alternative a hearing okay if this was intentional the court should factor that in now how can the court make a finding whether this was intentional or not without hearing from Melo Tully Peter anyone else who may or may not be involved in this >> evidentiary hearing I mean that's one thing we push short. It's like, let's get an evidentiary here. Get these people in here. Get Crusty in here. Get Tully in here. She She's saying he's saying that she that he named the videos. He's taking credit for it. It wasn't her, it was him. But yet, she's saying otherwise.
Like, so what is going on here?
>> How does this affect the grand jury presentation?
>> Well, Peter, >> I just want to see the argument. As far as the grand jury goes, it's either Tully or Peter who renamed these files.
Now, Tully knew the full name of the files.
>> According to Tully, [clears throat] he doesn't open it. So, I'm just trying to You may have a separate not saying you don't. Okay. As to what the relation between Melo and Peter was or was not.
>> Yeah. That's like the fourth time he said that there. He's like, I think you're on to something with the Crusty thing. He He likes the Crusty argument.
You guys notice that? He likes that one, which is weird because I don't like to me. [ __ ] she is annoying, you know what I mean? She's not like I don't I hate talking about her. I I don't She's like a disease that doesn't go away. You know what I mean? An annoying disease.
Like a gnat. Like get the f like just go. You're [ __ ] weird. Just go away.
Get a life. You know what I mean? Like you're beneath me. We're not on the same level. Me even acknowledging you is beneath me because I'm [ __ ] turtle boy and you're Crusty Panties. We're not on the same level, you know, is what it is.
But, you know, she wanted to be she literally made herself part of this. A story that had nothing to do with her >> argument. Is this part of the Odell or is this some separate motion?
>> Well, on some level it's a hybrid. I mean, there's clearly the Odell complaint.
>> I got to understand what that hybrid is.
Like, give me kind of a mishmash here with all sorts of stuff in it and I'm trying to sort it out.
>> Judge, it's a standalone Odell motion clearly about impairing the integrity of grand jury proceeding. We also filed.
>> But how does he how does Go on.
>> There is a second motion to dismiss for extreme and egregious government misconduct based upon >> I couldn't I each will a separate motion to dismiss based on what you file.
>> No, judge. It's a second point.
>> This is the problem which you file.
That's we discussed that already. I I I can't discern that this is a second motion. This looks like a big old bill.
>> We Well, judge, we don't know what missing evidence we didn't get. And the argument that was put forth in Mr. Costco's response to this was that if if you don't know, then there's no obligation for us to turn it over because there's no reasonable possibility to conclude that it would be favorable to you. And and the point is when it's evidence that was deleted that was reviewed by Melo totally claims he didn't and it comes from a source who hates him and commits acts of fraud and forgery against him, there's a reasonable basis to believe that something wasn't right in that evidence.
We don't know. And this woman was assisting these people back right before the literally days before the grand jury explained to Melo how to use the evidence. What is that evidence? She sent a folder titled intent. That may very, we don't know, but that may very well be the clips to change names.
She'll probably deny it. She'll go online and deny it and scream and yell about it. Telly says, "I never looked at it." Melo is unheard of. He just disappeared in the wind. There's no sworn statement from him. These people at a minimum should be called in, take oaths, and let's get to the bottom of it.
>> Going to need a better motion than what I got in order to do that. Mr. Tell me a better motion.
>> What do you think is important? Okay.
first.
>> Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, April, right? Like, how do I think a judge would react to crusty? Yeah, he would not like her at all, clearly. So, but that's the sad part is that like she's the best argument is like he was most receptive to the Crusty argument, which to me I'm the least fond of because I hate even involving her in any of this because that's what she wants. She want her goal. You guys don't understand my history with her. Her goal is to be part of my story forever. My goal is for her to go away. Okay, we're not rivals.
She's an annoyance to me. And like her being part of the like her being an adversary to her to me and kind of leeching on to my success by being my adversary is her life mission. You know, she had what 600 700 followers before Karen Reed and I had 25,000. Right. But we grew proportionally. Like I went from 25,000 followers to 160,000 followers or whatever on however many I have. Okay.
She went from 600 to 6,000, whatever the [ __ ] she has. Like my growth, she grew proportionally to my growth by being what she's always been, a disease that won't go away. And I like I before Cara Reed, I just wanted her to go away. Just go away. You're a [ __ ] annoying.
You're a loser. I exposed you in 2020.
You can't stop [ __ ] thinking about it. Just go away. I don't want nothing to do with you. I have no intention of talking about you. You're [ __ ] old news. You're I've left you behind. Like there's nothing to talk about with you.
But her entire goal was to just be she she will do this for the rest of her life. You saw those things in Discord.
Does that seem like a well person to you? No. This is a person who wakes up every single day and is just like turtle boy. I I have to and sees nothing wrong with it. Doesn't think like maybe I should do other things with my life.
That's never crossed her mind. It never will cross her mind. This is what she will do forever because that's the only thing that brings her relevance. A lot of these people are like that. Is the only thing that will ever bring them relevance. Why do you think Leah Juso cannot stop talking about me? 5150.
That's the same thing. for the rest of their lives, they will just talk about me. Gaffne's been doing it for almost a decade now. They cannot move on with their lives. I consume them every single day. That is the effect that I have on some of these people. Their entire lives are dedicated to me. They don't have a life. They don't wake up and think, "What can I do for myself today?" It's like, "What can I do to destroy Turtle Boy?" That is all they think about. That is it. And they we just keep adding names to the list of people on the, you know, the aisle of misfit, unfuckable losers who will continue to do this and they will never move on. This is just all they can do. But, you know, you guys are entertained by this. Like every time she tweets, you guys people go at her and they're like, "You lost your kids."
You know, I don't do that. I used to do that long time ago. I don't do that anymore cuz it got old.
Newer people love that [ __ ] You know, they love going at it with Crusty. You don't understand. Every time you do that, she loves that [ __ ] She loves being the villain. She [ __ ] loves it.
she gets it because that's all she has in life is being like the anti- turtle boy villain. That's it. She doesn't have anything. So when you guys go at it with her when turtle she [ __ ] lo she lives for that [ __ ] Lives for it. But it is what it is. Like you put her on the stand with the with this the judge ain't going to think she's so cute. The judge is going to be like you're [ __ ] nuts.
You're nuts.
>> Council use the word cherry picked. What that means to me is the Commonwealth picked relevant evidence to support the charges it was looking for.
I don't have any real answer. I don't deny that that was what in this case Mr. Kernney set and did and put on the air.
>> Why don't why don't give the whole video the whole video?
>> Yeah. Why don't video watch this is off in the case.
>> I don't know what the reasoning was at the time, but if you if you look at uh if you look at >> Does that sound like a good answer to you? I don't know.
Well, I don't know. The judge is like doing it like like why not give him the whole video? I don't know. I wasn't there. I wasn't there.
>> Uh the chart that's the better of his clutes in his motions, his affidavit rather. U runs on for about three pages.
There's lots of videos. Uh they tend to go about two and a half hours each. uh if we give them the whole video there is lots of other material in there uh that uh language used by Mr. Carney whatever it could be construed as prejuditial I'm sure with your honor >> motion and eliminate to call me Mr. Carney, please to say my name right.
Okay.
>> Already heard about uh reference to the O'Keefe.
>> What Commonwealth introduced this and then they didn't indict him with respect to intimidation of the >> Wait, I got I got I got I got to hear this argument.
>> Give them the whole video. There is lots of other affidavit rather. Uh runs on for about three pages. There's lots of videos. Uh they tend to go about two and a half hours each. Uh if we give them the whole video, there is lots of other material in there. Uh that uh language used by Mr. party, whatever. It could be construed as prejudicial.
>> Oh, so they didn't play the whole video because they were looking out for me, don't you know? They were looking out for me. They didn't play the whole video because the rest of the video was worse and it will prejudice me and they don't want to prejudice me. They're very concerned with prejudicing me to the grand jury. They want to give me a fair chance. has >> I'm sure your honor has already heard about uh reference to the O'Keefe and Commonwealth introduced this and then they didn't indict him with respect to intimidation of the O'Keefe and this was entirely inappropriate, etc., etc. I'm sure if Mr. Bellow had put in 25 whole videos, we'd be getting an argument that all kinds of prejuditial material was was put in and that the Commonwealth should have simply chosen what was relevant to >> Well, they're they're telling us what we would have been upset about. If we played the whole video, they'd be upset about that. No, we wouldn't. You know why I wouldn't be upset about it?
Because I wouldn't be indicted. Because if you play the whole video and you get an understanding of who I am and you see I'm making jokes and talking about fixing fridges and call me daddy and you just get, oh, this guy's like a jokester. This guy's like a comedian.
This guy's a like kind is this weird hybrid of something we've never seen before of a journalist but also an activist and also he makes [ __ ] jokes and entertains people. That's interesting. No wonder he has such a big following because nobody does this [ __ ] That's interesting. They would get the whole package. You only play the parts that make that give the public the the grand jury the wrong impression of who I am and why I do what I do. And you did that by design. He doesn't [ __ ] know.
He doesn't know any of this [ __ ] He wasn't there for the grand jury. He's just the latest government hack triple dip that they hired that. You think he's like enthused about this? Hank Brennan was enthused about going after Karen Reed because it was an ego thing for him. He saw that as a challenge. People are like, "No one's ever going to convict this [ __ ] No one's ever going to convict her. She's She got Turtle Boy. She's got Allan Jackson. There's a movement behind her. She's got a lot of money. We can't convict her. You know, we got Morrisy begging the state house for a million dollars. All this [ __ ] And Hank because Hank Brennan is an egoomaniac.
He's like, I can do it. All like that's the only reason he took that case. He he saw it as a challenge and a quick buck.
You know, I can do it. I'll be the one to do the impossible. I will convict Karen Reed. So he he's younger and he's you know uh you know I'm going to do all new and do all sorts of shady [ __ ] We're gonna get this [ __ ] though. He doesn't have that same drive. He does not this guy ain't in Brennan. This guy's like whatever. Yeah pro I wasn't there but probably they didn't show it because they were looking out for him.
That's what he's saying. They probably looking out for him. invites. [laughter] Um, I have to say, where's the beef? I keep hearing about stuff being taken out of context. If only there was the context. If only the whole thing had been shown.
>> Yeah.
>> Defense has said, defense has read my response and said, "Your honor." And one of the things I said was, "Where is it? Where's the submission to the court? These are the things that if only uh >> Oh, so he wants me to play the video that I played earlier of what they didn't put in. That's what he wants. But we didn't have to put that in.
All we have to do is just point out that you lied about the titles and only played a small portion of it. That in and of itself should be enough. But you want us to actually explain to you.
Well, how about my intent?
You you you said that I don't want this to go to trial. That's all you put in.
How about the part where I said I do want this to go to trial. I'm going to be sexually aroused by the prospect of it. Actually, >> if only the grand jury had viewed them as your honor is now capable of viewing them because we submitted them and certainly Mr. Kernney has access to the beef. It would have put things in a completely different light. And here's why. You don't have any of them.
>> Um there may be some things in the entire videos that u for example, Mr. Bedro says um at one point Mr. Kernney talks about how he's going to uh expose corruption, something like that.
Mr. Kernney could have 16 different motives. People have more than one reason for doing things, for putting something in. Some of those motives may be good motives, but those motives are irrelevant. All the Commonwealth has to prove is that one of his motives was to intimidate those witnesses. That's what's relevant.
Furthermore, um I think as your honor all to, we can infer a certain degree of sophistication on the part of the grand jury. Uh, nobody watches even the evening news and sees a snippet of a Trump press conference or something going on in the city of Boston or an excerpt from what's going on in court and leaves under the delusion that other things weren't said, other things weren't happening. They understand that the news media selected what they considered relevant and showed that. In fact, I think that's what Mr. Kernney does.
>> Yeah. If the news does that to people, guess what? That's just tough luck.
They're not being the news doesn't indict people and try to put them in jail.
He is like, well, sometimes the media and they do the media that would be a fair point if this was analogous, but it's not if you said that. Well, sometimes the the media will just take the worst things that Donald Trump says and and throw it in there. And they do they did do that to Trump a lot. The fir the best example is the very fine people thing. A lot of you might have been like, "Remember when he called white supremacists very fine people?" And they told us that he was saying that about white supremacists and then you play the whole tape and they left out the part where he's like, "I'm not talking about the white supremacists and those people.
They're all bad." They left that part out. But they're not when CNN does that to Donald Trump, they're not trying to put him in jail. They're just trying to get him make sure his ratings are low.
They're not trying. You guys are doing this to a grand jury. That's very different from the media cherrypicking [ __ ] for a political bias. That's a little bit different there, Kazzy G.
>> On his own broadcasts, uh people are sophisticated based on years of watching news shows and years of at this point watching the internet. There's nothing to stop a member of the grand jury. And for for each of these witnesses, uh, grand jurors had an opportunity to ask questions. And if you've read the grand jury transcripts, you know, they did ask questions. And they [clears throat] certainly could have said, you know, you're only showing us a snippet here.
We'd like to see the whole video. Oh, >> so it's the grand juror's fault. It's their fault.
He actually blames the grand Well, it's their fault for being like, "Bro, are you hiding [ __ ] from us?
Is this actually a longer video? Can we see the whole He They don't even mention that there's more to it. They just play it and that's it.
>> No, but he did that.
>> We got to put this on the grand jury to make sure they get a square presentation.
>> Yeah.
>> No, I don't think we're putting it on the grand jury. I'm simply pointing out that in addition to the other points I've made, uh, the opportunity was there.
Nothing was being concealed. Um I [clears throat] think the practicalities of presenting the grand jury with however many hours it would have been 26 46 however uh these uh shows that the parties were on about two and a half hours uh would be somewhat absurd frankly I think the >> why would it be absurd if the whole thing is witness intimidation why would it be absurd unless you're hiding something >> else's obligation was to show what was relevant and that was what we Okay. Tell me about the issue. Your thoughts on the issue with Miss Peters and Mr. Pel.
>> All right. Uh >> yeah, he's like, "Let's talk about crusty.
>> Talk about crusty."
>> Miss Peters, uh I want to make a couple of points. One is um Mr. Feder raises this issue of the prior federal court suit, which Miss Peters apparently admitted to having forged a document or something of that nature.
>> Yes, Mr. Kernney would be aware of that because he was involved in it. But there is no reason by the best of prosecutors uh when somebody comes to them with information they may check out the information which is what was done here.
People went looked at the broadcast that they pointed to why they would go back and and screen for federal court cases to see if the witness had previously been involved in federal.
>> No, it's to screen for whether or not this is a reliable source. Your source is someone who admits that she comes up with and submits fraudulent federal court documents to get me. That she is not above that. That is your source. You are trusting that the person who is sending you these clips did nothing to manipulate them. Did not cut anything out. You're just trusting her.
That's the whole point Kazzy is that you should have looked into who is this person. Is this person trustworthy?
Can we trust the source? The source is unreliable.
That's the are they my own words? Yes.
But when you take entire sentences out, when you admit entire thoughts, right, that changes the meaning and the context of everything. And if you looked into the source, you would say, "Oh, geez, the source is the kind of person who literally creates fake federal court documents and submits them because she will do anything to get him. Anything.
It is her life mission. She will cheat, steal, rob anything to do it."
Or case, I don't know. [clears throat] uh it's not a search warrant where you're trying to establish the veracity of the informant and maybe you do some research in that case although I think it would be rare that that kind of research would so the [clears throat] suggestion that the commonwealth knew or should have known that this witness was tainted in that respect uh I think is somewhat >> to the best of your knowledge do any of the Peter's materials were any of the Peter's materials presented to the grand jury [clears throat] >> the Peter's materials were presented to the grand jury in the sense that they were uh couple of uh audio recordings uh that were obtained from uh Kate Peters uh which uh Mr. uh >> stop right there. Were any of the Peters materials used and given to the grand jury?
Well, let's see what she says.
The video he is playing I made for the grand jury. It helped indict him.
Her words.
There you go. It It seems as if they were according to her they were used.
>> Telly could not find checking independently uh because the theory was that Mr. Kernney had taken them down and had replaced them uh with uh different videos in which he had intercut a warning that was not actually there originally uh that the conversations were being recorded. Uh one of the >> this was the wire tap which didn't happen.
>> Correct. Correct. No.
>> So those are the only two the rest but the rest of them uh whatever was brought to Lieutenant's attention.
>> She messed that up. He's he's mixing up his wiretappingss.
We're talking about the scan wiretapp that they brought in front of the grand jury.
He's talking about the Lindsay one.
That's what she sent them. She didn't do this. The scan one was different, right?
This is the the Lindsay one that she brought and she's like, "You wiretapped her." Whatever. That thing's gone.
That's a non-issue. That's not even what's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the scan one.
The Lindsay one was not given to this G.
Forget about her. She's done. She's cool now. We We don't like She is what she is. She's We're Her and I again are We have no We're not going to walk into the [ __ ] sunset together like that. But I have I It feels good to just move on with your life and be like, "What am I going to You know what I mean? Like what it's like to just It actually feels good to just sign a non-disparagement agreement." And it's like I couldn't talk [ __ ] about her if I wanted to and vice versa. and we're both better off for it. Okay, it's over. It's done.
Right. I have bigger fish to fry. That is my policy, right? And I got these people like she's been new like she's on. She's saying good [ __ ] now. Who cares? Like I don't care. You know what I mean? I don't care about it's over.
Same with Grant. Grant said some [ __ ] up [ __ ] to me. I don't care. Have a t-shirt. Grant News Network. Fine by me now. Okay. It's over. That's it. Done.
And um I can't tell you the extent to which they were brought to attention by Kate Peters or the extent to which they were brought to attention by the victims in this case who were obviously not happy with some of Mr. Bernie's broadcast about them or by both. But in every single case um Mr. Tully's representation is that he himself went to the internet looked up the broadcast recorded it himself or caused it to be recorded by somebody in the office. Um >> [ __ ] [ __ ] There are no emails where he asks for the videos.
No, he you he didn't go and watch my shows. He got them sent to him. She's bragging about it.
>> This predates me, but I have no reason to doubt that representation and presented them uh to the grand jury. And I would point out to your honor uh to this moment, there has been no representation that any portion of the videos that the Commonwealth showed uh which we presented to grand jury as things that Mr. Carding himself had recorded and broadcast uh were not genuine. There's only been this argument that uh well they were taken out of context. If they saw something else, the jury might have thought something different.
>> Was the green do they I should maybe know this. Were the wire tap indictments no build or were they withdrawn?
>> I'll be right back. I'll be right back.
Hold on. What's this?
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>> Jennifer McCabe.
>> This is the point where I get to ask a question.
>> All right. So, let's ask a question and let's get an answer. Okay. Mhm. [music] >> Okay. Whenever you're ready, Mr. Jackson.
Yes. Yes. [music] Yes. No. I don't know.
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>> Once again, Mr. That's not what my question was. Did you understand my question?
>> Yes. Yes. [music] Yes. No, I don't. No.
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>> That's okay. You can continue.
>> Thank you. Question.
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>> We didn't proceed. Well, on >> they not ask for vote actually is a better way to put it.
>> Well, on on on the Gatani wiretap indictments, those were issued, but that complaint was >> not worried about that. So, the scan presentation.
>> Yes.
>> And what happened was uh after the presentation was made and issue was raised in line of the u an issue was raised with the prosecutor as to whether in fact a North County grand jury would have jurisdiction. Mr. Scan having been I believe in Suffach County for his end of the conversation and I believe Mr. Cernney was not in four times at the time either. Uh so there was >> that is their excuse again. They spent a day bringing Steve Scan in there. They talked asked him he was wiretapped. They played a phone call of me recording him whatever. And then they're like and then they told the grand jury wiretapping is bad. It's five years in prison. He's a bad guy. And then they just never brought it up again.
I personally believe Melo just forgot because he's [ __ ] and it happened on the first day of the grand jury. He just totally forgot to ask the grand jury to indict me. But now they need an explanation for that. And their explanation is, oh, as it turns out, we couldn't indict him in the first place because he lived in Suffach County. And we just dropped a ball on that one.
That's the best they could come up with.
That's the best lie that they could come up with for this. Now, is Cosgrove lying about this? No. This is the lie they're telling him to say, right? He doesn't [ __ ] know. He's he's not behind this.
Like they're this is Morrisy is pulling the strings as you speak.
>> Some thought that maybe u as I understand it maybe that Mr. Melo would >> doesn't matter to get himself appointed as a special prosecutor for Suffach County for the purpose of seeking the type there and uh and joining it. Uh but it was never pursued. Uh and uh with that in mind, the grand the North County Grand Jury just expired without anything further being done. So nobody ever went in front of the grand jury and said this is withdrawn. [clears throat] But on at the same time, no uh true bill was proposed to the grand jury relative to this.
>> Never asked for vote.
>> Never never asked for brought it up.
>> No, I'm uh content to rest on my memory.
No, >> I think that's good. I think that exchange right there was good.
because we brought up this issue, this major issue with the grand jury thing.
And he asked Cosgrove, "So what happened there? Do you have an explanation like you just didn't ask?" He's like, "No, we just didn't ask.
We have a whole thing about why we didn't ask, but we never did it." And that was his a to me that's a good exchange right there. Now, I still think he's going to deny the motion to dismiss, but you see right there's no reason like you see that exchange right there. is just like, well, I'm going to have to come if he if he wants to deny this motion to dismiss, he's going to have to come up with a good reason why that doesn't matter or else he just ignores it, too. I don't know. Personally, I think that he's just going to say he's just going to fall back on the whole you already had a chance to present this stuff in your first motion to dismiss. You didn't do it. You know, too late. I think that's what he's gonna say in his I think he's gonna deny it. And I think he's gonna deny it for that reason. But you know, I mean, stranger things have happened, but I don't care. It's like what? I want Do I want this denied? Of course. I mean, do I want this allowed? Of course, because then it's over, right?
Is it the end of the world if it gets denied? No. Don't care. Move on. Fine.
We'll beat him at trial. I'm not sure question I want back to Peters because [clears throat] he he lo like how many times now is he asked about crusty what >> your basis on the Peter's evidence is is a loss about exculpatory evidence is it I don't know you tell me because again the motion comes in as an Odell McCarthy sort of and then goes on for many many paragraphs but never really tells me much about why this is important so is it an Odell or is it a comma versus Willie Los sculptoriies I I got to I got to We don't know what Peter evidence ended up before the grand jury because nobody seems to have it. What I can tell the court is she provided a copy of a scan alleged illegally wiretapped call >> which was a part of this.
>> No, but to get to the point where they just said on the scandal evidence, we we just never asked for a vote. What they never did is what every prosecutor should have done, which is instruct the grand jury, disregard that. They didn't do that. I mean, that kind of just slipped by in that exchange that was just had. you put forth uncharged crimes of wiretapping and actually tell the grand jury this is punishable by up to 5 years in prison for whatever reason it doesn't matter you choose because you think there's no jurisdiction or not what Melo was obligated to do as the legal adviser to the grand jury with a with a duty of fair dealing not to be an advocate but but a fair and honest broker was to tell the grand jury you must not consider any of that you should not consider that evidence you should not consider any possible penalty so where did that come from her we don't know we also know that she sent evidence to Tully and I believe also Melo saying, "I have taken clips from videos which show his intent in a folder made intent." We don't know what that mean.
>> Try to separate this out. I'm trying to understand your argument. It' be very fair. Okay.
>> It doesn't sound like there's any argument here. There's loss of exculpatory evidence.
>> Correct.
>> Right. So, we can take that off the table, >> right?
>> Yeah. No big deal.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes.
>> So, I don't need to worry about >> So, we can take that off the table. We all agree that exculpatory evidence disappeared. We just agree on that.
Okay. Cool. Awesome.
So what I'm now left with is the argument that the information the only the only information that we seem to have right now with regard to Peters is the scandal um non-indictment. Right.
>> No.
>> Is that about right >> and sending clips from videos in some folder named intent to tell that is >> we've just we don't know that that any of that got in front of a grand jury.
>> We do not know if that's literally what he is correct. So, what we do know, >> what we do know now, now that we got that thing today of Crusty bragging that it was played in front of the grand jury like two weeks afterwards, it's her own words.
>> Is that that the scandal information cut to the grand jury?
>> We believe so. I mean, we again, I can't tell you if they took her version and found there was testimony about that or evidence about that.
>> There was testimony of that uncharged crime that was left there.
>> I'm really trying to hone down your argument, something I can get my hands around. All right. Now what we're left with is the question of whether or not the grand jury was under Brown tainted by the inclusion of that evidence. It's a high standard really difficult given judge Dolan's findings already or whether or not Melo had an obligation to obstruct the jury on the law about that now withdrawn or not pursued indictment.
Does that is that summarize the argument?
>> It does your honor. I I can't fathom a world in which a prosecutor >> I'm just trying to I don't need further argument on it. I'm just trying to figure out if that's the argument.
>> Of course he should have instructed the grand jury to disregard prejudial unjust crime which could result in somebody going to prison. Yes.
Brown issue whether or not it affected the integrity of the grand jury.
>> You have to determine whether it affected the integrity and ultimately whether it mattered and you know in terms of you know did it probably influence the grand jury the Mayfield standard um something else the court should consider about whether any of this matters in March of 2024 Mr. Melo took another shot at grand jury involving Mr. And this was such a good point that he brings up that the same they tried the same [ __ ] at the March 2024 grand jury where they tried to indict me and Karen Reed together for conspiracy to commit witness intimidation and it was no build. Why? Because they didn't use any of the misplaced videos. But I want you to listen to this reasoning. I heard this again.
>> I read for essentially >> but not this scripture.
>> No, but then we don't need to go here.
Your honor, if I can have 10 seconds of loot, none of the misconduct occurred in that grand jury and what happened. The same allegations, same type of evidence and that case was no built.
>> That's a whole different bottle wax.
That's >> the point is could it have influence? We don't know.
>> I'm not going to guess about the grand jury presentment that never read. I've never seen involves >> I'm not going to guess about the grand jury presentment that I've never seen.
Okay. But yet we're speculating about what the grand jurors could have done in my case. The grand jurors, yeah, we're just assuming that the grand He goes on to speculate about what the grand jurors were thinking in my case, but he's not going to speculate about this grand jury, but he he literally later in this hearing puts words in the mouth of grand jurors to say that we don't know. Guess like remember that >> far different facts than this, right?
whatever I don't know the details of what happened or didn't happen between Mr. Kenny and and his Reed. I don't know, frankly. I don't care. Okay. What I care about is this grand jury. Okay.
My and and and much of that communication back and forth allegedly with Reed allegedly, it's not before me.
I'm not going to draw an inference from that. I can't. You know that.
>> I'm not asking you. Just the same videos.
>> Kind of.
>> No. No. Judge. I'm not talking about anything other than it was the same video evidence and Tully talking about the same things. And admittedly, >> I guess there was a whole lot more to that grand jury than these videos.
>> Not much.
>> Whatever. It's not whatever.
I don't have access to it. So I can't draw a conclusion as to whether or not the fact compares. So that's believe me the last place I want to go down the road and figure out the any any interaction with your client Karen Reed that's got no part of this trial, right?
Not fair to anybody. Okay.
>> All right. Anything else you want to tell me about this?
>> One uh other just response to something Mr. Cosro said when the court was asking him um you know why not just play or or give the grand jury the opportunity if they so choose to have the videos and the response was well they could have asked. Um they >> I had a little stuck in that so I wouldn't spend any time that >> they whatever they don't know. And and the last point, your honor, is why rename the videos? Why say it comes from the intent? Why offer the opinions? The it's to put their finger on the scale and to say we believe he did it. You should believe he did it. And that's improper for a prosecutor to do as a legal adviser. Great.
>> Fair enough. All right. I'll take another adisement. Um >> Sure.
I just want to point out that from Commonwealth's perspective, the whole scam argument is waved because they had the grand jury minutes at the time that they brought the last motion, including >> the scandal argument limited to the idea that they should have instructed.
>> Right. Okay.
>> Right. Um um >> I mean that's his whole argument is like they should have brought it up the first time. So ignore the [ __ ] You guys missed the [ __ ] the first time. So we admit it's [ __ ] but you shouldn't.
you had your chance to point out the [ __ ] and you didn't do that.
>> The second point I want to make is the argument that they don't know what information came from Miss Peters. I guess my response is doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that she has an animist against Mr. Kernney that the oil and water. Doesn't matter if the Commonwealth got those videos from Jack the Ripper or whether the Commonwealth got it from St. Teresa. The question is, is the video evidence authentic? And it is.
>> Okay. All right. Enough on that. It's not authentic if it's edited. It's not authentic if entire uh phrases and sentences were kept out of it.
>> Um, next issue. [clears throat] Uh, do we have the third party here?
>> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> All right. Uh, from the defense, I didn't get a response. Um, oh god. Is there a response or opposition?
>> No opposition.
>> So, you're fine with releasing these matters?
>> We're uh, >> this is funny.
>> From our perspective, this is all out in in the possession of >> So, this is wild. Dildo shows up and Dildo's here to ask. He wants to intervene. He wants my phone extraction.
And I gave him all I showed you what I gave Dildo the other day. I gave him all the messages I had. He wants all my messages with David Yianetti, Allan Jackson, and Karen Reed. And my philosophy is they're all out there anyway. So here they are. Like there's nothing to hide. Here you go. And we're just like he he was actually he's actually shocked. The judge is like being like I I'll hook you up with this and we're like no we're good. The one thing he wants to help us out on we're like no we're all set. We don't give a [ __ ] about that.
>> The internet if you will >> seems like everybody has it and you look at it except Carney. But that's another issue for another day.
>> Well, we returned it to him. Did we not?
That was the order that the comp.
>> Yeah, you did return it to me in a format that and then this idiot comments.
I thought we could go like they gave me the format that was unreadable on a Mac which is like so [ __ ] problematic.
I'm finally able to access it now, but I had to go through all these steps to do it and I thought that should have been brought up and we don't bring it up because some idiot comments on the Zoom.
>> Okay, hold on.
>> Yes, your honor, but it's there's all sorts of >> You heard that? Okay, whoever's on the video need to shut down.
>> And this is such boomer [ __ ] by the way. Like, you can the clerk has the ability to mute everyone. It's [ __ ] basic [ __ ] To tell the public that we're just going to shut this down if anybody talks anymore. It's like that's on you guys. That's on the clerk for doing that, for not shutting that [ __ ] down. They have the That's on the clerk.
That's not on the idiot who is unmuting himself, right? That's on you for not controlling it and muting everyone. Cuz now what they have done is given a blueprint to any idiot that wants to shut this [ __ ] down for everyone. Any troll, they've basically given them a blueprint to how to shut this down. just go on there and yell some [ __ ] and then everybody everybody it's an invitation to do it. This shows a a real lack of the understanding of like how the internet works and trolls and stuff like that.
So like yeah this could have been intentionally done this I don't [ __ ] know but whatever it is it's not the proper answer to this.
>> Further Mr. Carney provided uh an attorney dealer with all these communications. So this is not an issue >> shouldn't be >> because my frankly my my first impression here is I want to protect Mr. Carney's rights not to have this these material investigator thank you okay with it I'm not going to I appreciate that and if you will if you're inclined to do that I certainly would ask you to do it that's why I asked you if you oppose it and you said no so >> but if that's your inclination I any layer of protection we appreciate but unfortunately you know this is out on the internet number one >> it he's given it to Mr. Diller as a prosay uh yeah >> nonparty opponent lawyer >> um so what do you need from Mr. Why do you need it from me if you already have it?
>> I don't know that I have it. I know that I just got a link from Mr. Carney a couple days ago because I went into our case and also got a motion to compel which was allowed. So, I'm entitled to at least compare the two um matters to see whether they are consistent and that it's comprehensive.
>> Exactly. I knew he was going to do that because I sent him everything. I sent I went through my whole phone extraction and I gave him screenshots of all my messages with Yianetti and I just it took hours to put it together because we talked a lot and I send them all the screenshots of the messages with Yiani. Then I had to do the same with Jackson and then I had to do the same with Karen Reed and that's all I could find. I keyword search their names. I keyword search he wanted Nathan Reed. I keyword search that. Couldn't find anything. I don't have Bill or Janet Reed's number. Um, I've never spoken to them. Like, I there's nothing I can do.
Uh, so I don't know what you want me to say.
Like, I gave you everything. He wants to cross reference that to see if I left anything out. That's what he wants to do. Bro, just call Julie Carpenter.
She's got the whole thing.
>> I appreciate this before Judge Gay, not me.
>> It was before Judge Gile and he issued an order. There's a separate issue which is we've executed a protective order and any of the materials that will be provided from this case to us will be protected. There's also been a guilt day order that there's no dissemination or discussion of any of the confidential information. So there will be no leaks of data into the world and this case will come.
>> There'll be no bro it's already been leaked. Where have you been dildo?
Again watch the four skin girls. They do entire YouTube presentations about my phone. What are you talking about?
Everything's out there.
come to judgment prior to the O'Keefe case. So, we'd ask that we get access to those materials. We know that they are the authentic materials and we request we'll execute the protective order as I gave him Natalie's entire phone extraction which contain which is a bonus. He got a two for one cuz not only are you getting all of her communications with me but more importantly you're getting all of Natalie's communications with Mcdana.
I gave him Mcdana. I did the unthinkable.
Like I finally cracked guys, you know.
>> But I can tell right now. I'll say it right. Hey Aiden, give us [ __ ] Mcdana and we'll go easy on you.
I could only take so much. There was only so much torture I could take until I finally just gave him Mcdana. I literally gave them Mcdana because in Natalie's phone extraction, she talked to Mcdana constantly, mostly about me. Not good things either.
They She didn't like me and he didn't like me either. And they just talked [ __ ] about me the whole time. And he tells her the feds are he's [laughter] one day we're gonna do a whole show just going over all Natalie's messages with Mcdana and you are going to be so entertained. I [ __ ] you not. It's the funniest [ __ ] But I gave him Mcdana. So not that's a nice gift you got there. I mean he's the real guy you want, right? Go out. Go get Mcdana. He's the bad guy. Anyway, back to this.
>> The other parties who do not object in the O'Keefe matter will all execute the same confidentiality protective order and it'll be used exclusively in that case.
>> Let's see your name name, sir.
>> Mark Diller on the family.
>> Okay. Any further heard this?
[laughter] >> I don't have any objection to providing Mr. Dillo with a copy of the same materials that I need. I'm already out there on the internet. Ironically, released not by Mr. personally but for someone who was associated with it as I understand it.
>> Oh, what' you say?
>> Materials that I believe are already out there on the internet. Ironically, they've been released if I personally, but for someone who was associated with it, I understand it >> through someone who is associated with them. 5150, that's that's his acknowledgement that 5150 gave that's him saying he's putting it out there.
5150 released the phone extraction.
That's what he's saying right there.
Right. She released it. They I mean we agree on that one. And I Does anyone think that she hasn't contacted him to be like, "How can I help you out?" Of course she [ __ ] has. Of course she has. Right. But even Cosg Gro is like, "No, not today, Satan.
Nope. I fell for that trick once already with no more turtle boy ex-girlfriends.
We're not doing that anymore. That's done. that last time I did that I got sued. Okay, we're not doing that anymore. All set.
>> Um the problem that uh I'm dealing with is uh >> is judge clubs protective order >> is is essentially found on exhibit B uh to the motion to intervene which is the order from Judge Sitki which was entered in the Karen Reed case. Um that motion was brought by uh Mr. Bradle on behalf of Mr. Kernney and Mr. bridle as I recall wished to bring up with respect to both the Karen Reed case and with respect to this case. Judge Syski announced at the outset that he was only there to deal with the Karen Reed case wasn't going to touch the Kernney case.
Uh but the language of the order uh prohibits all agents of the Commonwealth which would seem to include me at the moment your honor from uh uh requires us to maintain the confidentiality which is now essentially non-existent not share publish disseminate or otherwise disclose the data or any information concerning the data. So, uh, I may be partially to blame for this matter being before your honor this morning because my position was I'm happy to give it to you, but I don't want to get caught between an order on the criminal side telling me that I have to protect this information, not release it, not disclose it, and an order on the civil side saying turn it over in response to the subpoena.
>> And this has already been produced by Mr. Carney on his own.
>> That's my understanding.
>> Yes. As a proay nonparty.
>> All right. I'll take another. Okay. Um, next motion. Um 139. This was the issue the of the items from the taint team.
Anybody want to be heard on this?
>> Yes.
>> Oh, the taint team. Okay. So, this is about my other six devices that they took from me. I've shown them before, things they found, and I I got I want to talk about So, they've the taint team has gone through all of my devices. And what did I tell you about those devices?
Those are from I didn't even know what some of them were. They're like we took a SIM card or something like that and we put Bro, it's like photos from a digital camera from like 2012. It's like my kids and [ __ ] It's like all they took one of my ex-wife's old phones that we never threw out. That's what the taint team found. So that's about it.
>> Okay, I'll hear you.
>> Uh >> I provisionally, but you should know what it could be disseminated, >> right? Uh the only thing I would say your honor is uh reading uh paper 134 which was the uh impounded uh report from Mr. Verono. Uh it looks like some of the work has been completed and there are two instances where he's looking for guidance from from the court. Uh that's uh the very last item. Apple iPhone A1549 and Apple iPhone on the next page. I'm going to tell you this story >> where he says the extraction attempts failed that he would need permission in order to >> to so there was there's there was one I guess he's reading this this is impounded so I guess he's reading now we could talk about it the taint team tried to go through one of my devices and they said it failed that the extraction attempt failed they couldn't extract anything from it >> an attempt by a law enforcement agency um I'm not sure how long it would take to accomplish those Um, I haven't had an opportunity since, uh, thanks to your honor allowance motion. Uh, I've only had this now for a couple of days. I haven't had an opportunity.
>> So, I'll tell you what that is. What he, they don't know what this is. So, I had this phone and I remember happening.
Okay. This was back when I was messaging with Jinduso. So, this was been in like 2020. Well, some texting going on.
There's some of that going on in this phone. Okay. And all of a sudden one day all of my messages with her. I I'm I'm using my phone to text her and the phone just stops working.
And I'm like, this is in 2020. And I'm like, you know, and I'm like, it just won't turn back on. It just [ __ ] the bed. And so I bring it to the Apple store. Okay. And I'm like, the Apple store can just turn anything back on, right? And so I give it to them and they take it and they're like, "We tried everything. We can't get it to turn on.
There's like I don't know what you did to this thing, but it's not turning back on."
And I'm and I remember being pissed because I lost all my messages with her.
They were those messages were like hot and heavy and they were gone. Sometimes I like to read it's like reading penthouse forum sometimes reading the old messages and like you like they just I couldn't read them and I always wanted them to turn that phone back on because she also said a lot of incriminating [ __ ] in there I could have used after things went bad but I lost all of the I had to ask her I'm like you know can you screen record our messages and send them to me not knowing like what I was trying to do that for and because I lost them all the phone wouldn't turn back on. So now they have the phone. So they have this phone that I couldn't turn on and that Apple couldn't turn on. And for some reason I just never threw it out because I always told myself I could someday I'm going to get this phone to turn on. I always had that in the back of my head. Maybe there's a way. I always thought that maybe there's a way I can get maybe it'll just turn on one day and when I least expect it. Maybe that will happen. You ever do that with some [ __ ] You're just like, I'm not I'm not ready to throw it out yet. I'm not ready to throw it out yet because I really want to read those messages. I really What if it turns back on? What if it turns back on? Then I can get because it wasn't in the cloud. My cloud was full, too. I had to I didn't have I didn't buy the upgrade for the storage.
So, I lost it all. All the [ __ ] [ __ ] was gone. There was pictures on there.
There's a lot of [ __ ] that I wanted.
There was a vid, dude. There was a video of her. I'll tell you right now, she sent me a video of while she was driving a motor vehicle playing with herself. While she was driving, I wanted that video. Like, I lost that [ __ ] there. You couldn't see anything. She didn't show anything, but she's like with I don't know what hand was on the [ __ ] wheel. and she filmed herself doing that and that video is gone forever.
Gone. That would have been that video is gone.
And so I swear to God. And so that's why I never threw the phone out. I'm like I always kept telling myself maybe it'll turn back on. Maybe I'll figure this out someday. I would. I'm like if I throw it out it's gone forever. I'll never be able to turn it on. You might say TMI.
I'm just telling you right now, that's why I never threw the phone away cuz I I'm like, maybe I'll turn it. And so I couldn't turn it on. The Apple store couldn't turn on and then my house gets raided and they take it and then they send it to the taint team and the taint team's like, "We can't get it to turn back on. It won't [ __ ] turn on." So now there's they got that the phone and I'm like, "If you guys get that turned on, I want it back. I want that back because that video is funny. Go ahead.
>> Need to check with somebody with more sophistication than I in matters of electronics and extraction. Someone more sophisticated than I would probably be any 12-year-old that could stop on the street, but I I don't really understand what this would involve and how long it would take and what the expense would be. So, I'd like a little time to look into that. But with respect to what's already been done um and it seems to me that they have uh uh for example the next to last entry honorable Macy reviewed and marched for privilege uh working on producing the potential purpose notations by honorable he makes everything so boring which items are deemed privilege for defense production.
This was dated March 25th of 2026. Uh this taint team process has been very laborious and I would really like to get the ball rolling on this or rolling a little further before we are up against the trial. How soon do you think how long will it take you to get to formulate your position on further steps?
>> Um I don't think it will take me long at all. You're a week Mr. Mr. B heard in any of this >> I don't have to a week you know if council wants to >> you have the materials he has released you report. Yes.
>> Okay. So >> see I wasn't even aware of that. Well, that was the that was the order that I issued.
>> Oh, you mean this? But but but >> Okay.
>> That was the order that I got was to release that that report.
>> Right. [laughter] Right. But but but the text of the report says so they have the data. Macy's reviewed it or has reviewed some of it. I would like some indication to the team that would like to get it.
>> I I don't know what what exactly is in play here. Mr. P. Yes.
>> You work with Mr. Cosgrove.
>> Okay. Just need to file a further motion to assist this process to to speed it up. Just get it to me. We would like >> Yeah, you guys can work. You'd like to receive it first though, your honor. I I appreciate com references in their submission that to the extent that there is a privilege notations in here. We'd like to see first evaluated.
>> Understood. I get that. Okay. All right.
So, look, did report back to me two weeks from today. Right. And if you need a further court order to to move the ball forward, I'll be glad to do that.
Right. I assume you guys will come up with some agreement on it, right?
>> Yeah. It will be.
>> Yeah. So, if we I think I proposed to council just like to have it for let's say a week prior to this. We'll give you two weeks to work this out. I I I suspect you don't need me to interfere with this.
>> I don't think so. My understanding may be less than 12 year olds. Um, okay.
Last issue, which is the issue for disclosure on Proctor. Uh, did you folks have some discussion with us?
>> Yes, you are. We're almost there.
>> I think we need court guidance on one one disparity.
>> It's very wide right now.
>> Far too wide. All right. I think I know where you can go.
>> We're going to we're not going to make you go through the labor of looking at our stuff.
>> All right. Tell you what, two weeks to give you a report on where you stand on that. All right. If you guys can reach an agreement, we will. That's fantastic.
Wonderful.
>> Whoa.
>> All right. We're going to close the Zoom now. That's it. Zoom is shut down.
>> Whoa.
>> If I may judge, the only issue we're disparing on is the scope of uh the protective order relative to what Mr. Carney could be shown and not shown. And we were proposing that it would be just case related materials from the proxaction. We'd be entitled to show him not provide copies to show him uh case related materials. And I think council has a little more of a specific issue. I think that's the only issue we're dispar. If you guys have an agreement and you want to work it out, that's fantastic. If you still need more time to have this discussion, you want to come see me even by Zoom, we can do that. If you guys have again, you guys reach an agreement. I'm not going to stand in the way in the way of it. If you need further clarification after discussion, okay, tell me.
>> I was just hoping to gently push Commonwealth today to put their position out, which we discussed prior to this hearing and perhaps your honor can make the ruling. I think it's a pretty straightforward thing.
>> Tell me what you think I should.
essentially uh I have uh folded my tent so to speak and agreed to provide uh information to the same degree that it's been provided in the other cases.
>> So he has finally agreed. Remember he would not give us Proctor's messages before because he's like Proctor is not involved in the investigation. He acquiesed to that today when they had a discussion and he he admitted that he was clearly involved in the investigation. You are entitled to all of the messages that Miles King is getting that everyone's getting. You get them, too. Okay.
But there's a stipulation. He doesn't want me seeing them. For some reason, I don't get to see them. I'm the I'm There's this weird turtle boy rule where I don't get to see Discovery. Only my lawyers do.
>> Uh where there is a Proctor of Discovery. Uh and Mr. uh Mr. Bridal >> oh god >> has agreed that essentially the same protective order will be issued which uh essentially boils down to that uh the materials provided will be provided only for the use of council and may be shown uh to the client but the client may not receive copies of those materials >> and is there any restriction on the use of those materials by the client? I think that's probably what we're circling around here.
>> Yes.
>> So he's like you can show them to him but you can't send them to him. So you gota like show them in person. what >> uh uh that's my concern and it it seems to me that uh to the extent that uh the information there's really two potential pieces of information. One is uh case specific information anything Mr. uh Proctor may have uh said relating to the specific case and and and Mr. Kern >> that's that's would almost be back.
>> Sure.
>> I would have no problem with u with that being shown to Mr. Kernney. Uh, however, it seems to be the bias information, which is, as I understand it, a pretty standard, it's really the same for all the defendants. The stuff going back, whatever, the comments that Mr. Proctor made about this person or that person that potentially could be used to impeach him if he is called as a witness and show bias that have nothing to do with Mr. Kernney in particular.
>> That's a truth.
>> And we are, that's another announcement we made today. If this goes to trial, we will be calling Michael Proctor as a witness in this. You have not seen the last of Michael Proctor. That's another Again, the Turtle Boy trial is going to be if this happens, it's it ain't going to be that much fun because it's like very, you know, whatever like stressful. You're on trial for your life for you guys. You win.
Like you you Brocker's back, Jem McCabe's back, Brian Albert's back, Colin Albert's back, your favorite Mc Alberts, they've all returned. The bagel is back. You're going to get all sorts of entertainment that you didn't get in the first in the second Karen Reed trial. All your favorite characters are back and there's more texts that are going to come out and Auntie Bev's not going to be there this time to stop it all. Oh, you're gonna get a show, ladies and gentlemen. I I I don't wish to be shown I would like to be restricted from showing to Mr. Kernney because I don't think the council needs his input if we come to trial to present a statement that Mr. Proctor made 12 years ago about supplemental minority or whatever. Oh yeah. The likelihood is it's only going to leak out into the internet to the extent it hasn't already to the possible embarrassment of we starting big.
>> Oh, god forbid we embarrass Michael Proctor. God, we don't want to embarrass Michael Proctor. That would be bad. He actually said that. comments and inappropriate comments and unacceptable comments. It's going to open up things that we just don't necessarily need to go down. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but just a word to the wise.
Mr. >> What do you think the agreement is right now?
>> This is that this is this issue that the comm wants to sort of parse out is too it's too vague to parse that out. I can't I can't look at something and say >> I'll give you two weeks to it makes it adverse to the client.
>> I'll give you look I'll give you two week I'll give you two weeks to confirm.
If you guys haven't come to agreement by then, call Mr. Donnelly. Okay? Come in and see me. It's a 15-minute hearing.
should not take as long.
>> All right. So, we've got two weeks on on the issue of the taint team issue. Two weeks on this this issue, too.
>> Thank you. And then there's also a housekeeping issue relative to the the dates, your honor, for trial and motions of lemonade. I think we wanted to propose to the court. I think we hammered this out before uh you came out, which is that we wanted to propose Friday, December 4th for motions of lemonade. Monday, December 7th.
>> All right. So, we just do some scheduling stuff there. motions and lemonade ended up getting moved back to like he's like I anticipate a lot of motions and lemonade. So yeah, you are you're gonna get a lot. So whatever.
We'll cross that bridge when we get there. All right. So long story short, this shit's going to get expensive.
Appreciate everybody donating. We're going to have to keep sign up for the golf fundraiser. That's one. Sign up for the golf thing. I'll see you at the golf thing. I'll see you at the freedom ride that we're having on August 15th in Malro. Sign up for that. I got to keep sharing that more. Um, let me read some turtle chats. Let's see what we got here.
Okay.
Um, all right. At four dread sends 10 bucks goes, "The guns are out." Oh, yeah.
Sun's out, guns out. It's also hot in here. I can see how protective Bradle is over you, bro. He's taken it kind of personal how they treat you different.
Chris Maddie is gay. Exactly. Exactly to everything there. Chris Matty is gay or allegedly. And yes, Bradle, I mean, he saw me go to jail, man. He's talked to me every day in jail. Like he just, you know, you get close to a client that way. He know I'm like actually innocent.
Like like I didn't do anything and I'm in jail. Like I have kids and [ __ ] He's a dad, too. He gets it, you know. So So thank you for that. Um, next, uh, Nicole sends five bucks. Goes, "Hey, Daddy.
Thanks for doing a stream tonight."
Anyway, we need to start doing standouts and getting the word out more often. I think there's still a lot of people that don't know about your case in Massachusetts. We do. We We need a Karen Reed level push here, which we're not going to get because it's like I'm not on trial for murder. It's not as sexy of a story as the Karen Reed case, but enough people I think will care. Um, and so that's great.
Uh, Jay Will raised six grand last. Did he re? Holy [ __ ] I didn't even have time to watch it. There's a fundraiser going on for me that Will is running.
Will's the man. That's why they hate him so much. That's why the Hood Booger Talk Radio and all these people, they're like, he they they always try to convince me. They're like, they they don't they would love me if I threw Will under the bus. They would all embrace me so fast. But I'm not going to do that ever because Will's my my homie.
I'm not doing that. Like I don't I'm a loyal person and Will I'm loyal to people who are loyal to me and that [ __ ] is loyal and he's actually I know when somebody is like a good person and when some like he's a good guy. I'm telling you. See what they always try. Where's he going to be for you? Is he going to be out here? You really want there like they try to be like like I tomorrow morning on the bus stop live I'm going to play the hood booger talk radio clips of him and these other retards um because Cryford went on there with BLT and they it's like they are so like they would love me if I threw Will under the bus. would [ __ ] they would take they would be so happy because they hate him more than way more than they hate me because they view him as more like on their level like he's got a similar amount of subs or whatever and I've chosen him over them basically you know what I mean because he's not like the the true colors were shown during recording gate everyone's true colors came out then and they sucked but Cry Cryford's true colors came out long before that. And so do BLTs for that matter, you know. Um but yeah, they're like, "Well, what's he going to do for you? He doesn't even live in Massachusetts. We could help you out."
[ __ ] ain't no You ain't helping me out. You got 50 people watching you. How the [ __ ] you going to help me out? You can't help out anyone, which is why you're not helping out Karen Reed. Why don't you go help out Karen Reed? When's the last time one of you [ __ ] did a fundraiser for Karen Reed? Why isn't Cryford doing fundraisers for Karen Reed? I thought this I thought why isn't Boston and Brandy doing one? I thought that we were going to get to the truth of what happened to John O'Keefe in the Karen Reed civil case. So why aren't we doing fundraisers for it? Why aren't you guys doing it? I'm not going to sabotage that. I don't care.
I I'm all for that. I've given more money to Karen Reed than any of these [ __ ] have, too. A lot of people don't know that. I raised over five grand for her with the Halloween fundraiser that got to her. All of that money went to her. [ __ ] have these [ __ ] done recently? Nothing.
Nothing.
All right, back to this. Um um so thank you for that. Hi, Alexa sends five bucks goes, "Can the trial legally be held anywhere but in Denim with no change of venue motion?" Yes, because as long as the jury is a Norfick County jury, it will be a Norfick County case. just the building doesn't matter. You know, they're going to bust him in. So, that's what they're going to say.
Next, um, sanity hack sends 25 goes, "Okay, if the mega motion doesn't get the case dismissed, don't be down." Oh, I'm not. There's a silver lining. If the Commonwealth wants to humiliate themselves again and put you on trial, you'll get to me. I'm coming. I'm a 22-hour drive from my pad in New Orleans, which is only a seven aderall, two bottles of Jack Daniels drive for Chris Albert. I'll do that to watch you win. You will win in the end. I just know fate is going to be kind to you.
Well, thank you so much, Sandy. That makes me feel a lot better. I appreciate that. Uh Marlene sends 10 bucks. Goes, I am in awe with your courage. I believe you will be in the history books as taking down for taking down the corruption in Canton. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I I aim to inspire.
Thank you. Next, um Lynette Corollola, my girl from the West Coast says, "Turtle boy, let's [ __ ] Let's do it, Lynette. It's going to be glorious to see you up on the stand and pants these [ __ ] sending all the love and support from us, West Coasters.
Love you lots. Lynette Corolla sends a hundred bucks. Very kind of you, Lynette. And I uh I do appreciate that very, very much. Thank you so much. All right, cool. Uh let me see if we have any cash apps here. Do we? Let's see.
No, I didn't really pimp that up. Um, but I do have a bunch of memberships.
So, uh, new member, uh, or became a new member. Welcome, Fraudella. I hope you like it here. Thanks for joining my cult. Uh, Miss T says, "Props to Will for the fundraiser yesterday. Over $6,000 in counting." He's a real one.
No, he's he's an actual real one. Yeah, for real. For the trolls saying, "You're losing support." Nope, we got you. Yeah, the numbers say otherwise. the number. I I don't really see anyone. People who matter. I'm not losing support from. All I see is some people online talking [ __ ] Mostly anonymous. I don't care. I don't know who any of these people are.
Never met him. Don't care.
Don't care. Uh says, "And here, I was thinking the only black girl that I was the only black girl for Turtle Boy these last three years." No, the sisters love me. They love me. Why wouldn't they?
Everybody likes Turtle Boy. The Latinas love me. Asians love me. I was in the Asian club in high school. Whites love me. Everybody loves Turtle Boy. Miss Jenny says, "Remember, remember, remember I do." Uh, five.
Congrats to the winners of the five gifted turtle boy memberships from We Got Your Back. Don't forget to renew at the end. They get you on those. If you get a free one, you know, you might as well just renew it, you know. Your dad's favorite mom says the judge didn't get.
That's not about what the titles were changed to. It's the fact that they were changed at all. Exactly. And Dulan was not aware of that. Exactly. Dulan did not know that. That was a big thing.
Exactly.
Uh new member attorney Oliri. Welcome aboard. Glad to have you. Karen is uh says Turtle Boy was right. I think I met Did I meet Karen today? Yes, I felt honored to be on the room today. That was Karen that I met there. Thank you, Turtle Boy. I met a couple new people today that I had never met before. It was like there it's her first time there. It was great meeting them. So, I'm glad I really like meeting my supporters there. I'm gracious for every single one of you and thank you so much for coming. Jen McMurderer says, "Live comments can be removed because that's what Psycho L. Woods did when she admitted to me about her being the girl talking to Paul O'Keefe." So, you can get rid of those, huh? I didn't know that. Okay. Interesting.
Uh, your old live uh Jersey Queen says, "Judge has made his mind has made his mind made up. You will be going to trial and the judge and jury listen to your shows all You will be going to trial and make the judge and jury listen. Exactly. They're going to have to listen to them all.
Period. The grand jury didn't get to hear them. My jury will. Period. Who dares win? Suggestion. Girlfriends sign nondisclosure.
You attract crazy girls. Irish and us crazy girlfriend too. you know, 5150 offered to sign a non-disclosure with me. Um, and I never took her up on it. Obviously should have, but then again, what's it really going to do, though? All you got to do is just make burners and like that's all they would do. I feel like there's a way a million ways around an NDA. NDAs are like infamous for not being enforcable.
And you know, I don't really [ __ ] with crazy anymore. Like that was a that was like a one time like that was like a I met her in jail, you know what I mean?
Just I feel like don't meet prison girls is number one thing. Stay away from prison [ __ ] Um and you know it's I feel like I'm healthy right now. You know what I mean? I feel like I'm going at a very comfortable pace in current relationship I'm in. You know what I mean? And also red flag is if they want to come to the lawyer meetings, that's a red flag. Like that's a red flag.
And so, you know, if they want attention too, if they want to be known like on the internet as Turtle Boy's girlfriend, that's like that should be a red flag right there. I would not date anybody that wants to be like publicly known as like that's immediate number one red flag that you want to be known by the internet. That's not normal. You want to be a target.
You want you want attention that badly.
I don't trust you. I don't trust you if that's how you do it. You know what I mean? Or or you want to come to a meeting with my lawyers. If your immediate reaction to that isn't like, "No thanks." Then you're gone. That's it. That's it. So that's it. Cuz that that did happen with her. That I broke up with her three days later. We had court date on July 7th and we went down to review what just happened in the Denim um in the Norfick uh registry of deeds there. We always had like a debrief after and she came down and she wanted to come in and Bradle and Better were like, "No, no, just no." They they clearly were not comfortable with her coming in because we were going to discuss uh materials that were impounded and stuff like that.
But Courtney Healey was allowed in and 5150 hates Courtney Healey and so she's like, "Why is she allowed in?" And I'm not because she works for Bradle. I don't know what to tell you. She works for Tim. I know you don't like her, but she works. And then I had to be like, in hindsight, I should have been like, "Bitch, what the [ __ ] Why the [ __ ] do you want to be in here so bad so you can get access to these materials and then [ __ ] hold them against me?" Which is exactly what she ended up doing, you know? It's just [ __ ] crazy. It's just crazy. So, no, I'm not going to be doing like I would never Boundaries are big.
Boundaries going slow. Anybody wants to go too fast, that's a red flag. Red flag. I want to go nice. Anybody's not comfortable with the pace you want to go at or anything like that or makes you want to be something that you're not or do. If you find yourself, ladies and gentlemen, if you find yourself doing things to please other people, right, to please the person that you're with, to avoid a fight, but it's not what you want to do, right? It's not who you are. That's like you should have that discussion with them and be like, you know what, and if they don't respect that, then they got to go, you know, because it's perfectly normal to have I think this is like deep thoughts with turtle boy here. It's perfectly normal to not see eye to eye all the time with the person that you're seeing.
But it's also important to discuss that with them. And if they can't handle that conversation, if they get offended by because 5150 would just be like, "Oh," and storm out and be like, "Oh, I don't get to do this. Oh, you don't want me there? Oh," and if I tried to talk to her and be like, "No, it's not like that." She would just get mad. You know what I mean? That should have been the the first sign that's like, "No, you're not being mature about this. You're not an adult about this. You don't get it." You know? Um whereas like you know other people can other people if you have if you just if it's if you're in a healthy you're in a healthy relationship where you could talk about anything including things that are uncomfortable that you know boundaries need to be drawn and if they can handle those boundaries right and just like this is who I am you know what I mean this is what I do can you accept that about me if not totally understand but Don't try to change me. You know, I don't want to change you. You don't shouldn't try to change me. We shouldn't be changing you because then I'm just going to resent you because I'm just going to be like, I don't want to be this person and I'm only doing I'm only being this person to avoid a fight with you. And that's not healthy. That's not And yeah, this is Turtle Boy giving, you know, people like, well, who the [ __ ] are you to give relationship advice? I don't know.
somebody that's been in a lot of really bad relationships, maybe somebody who's like learned from [ __ ] somebody who's like like grizzled, like you know what I mean?
What do you want me to say? You know, so it is what it is. So anyway, I'm going to start doing that. But yeah, uh so I don't think the NDAs are going to work.
All right. Next. Um, who's next? Okay. Uh, okay. Alt for Dread is a new member. Welcome aboard, sir. And he says, "I think that Wiretap might dismiss this case. Don't be surprised. He kept urging better."
Interesting. No, he ain't going to dismiss the case. Stop it. That would be crazy. Imagine you dismiss the case. That'd be nuts, but it ain't going to happen. Um, Big Vic 76 says is a new YouTube member. Thank you.
Uh, Crystal Justice says, "Instead of let's [ __ ] let's talk about a groupy."
Had to spell it that way for YouTube that needs to happen in December.
I'm in Michigan.
Plan on being there.
Okay. I don't know. I think I get what you're saying. I don't get it, but I don't know if that's like a dirty thing, but thank you. I hope you come to my trial. Thank you. Next. Um, mama for Denise is a West Coast for Turtle Boy.
Free the turtle. Love my West Coast turtle people very, very much. Okay. All right. Um, Baker is on tonight. Oh, is he live? I thought I saw Baker in my chat. So, yeah. Anyway, um yeah, I guess uh I guess that's it. So, um I will see you guys all tomorrow. So, tomorrow morning on the bus stop live, we're going to talk a little bit about the Randall video because we got to talk about that and we're going to have my show tomorrow night. I mean, this is the grift I've learned. You know, I have learned a couple things from, you know, because Machado is and I talked these guys are like, there's one clip I played where they're like, is like I was on with Purple Kool-Aid, Purple Kool-Aid the other day was like, bro, Turtle Boy told me that he had to destroy Machado because she was a threat, man. He and all the anti took that clip and they're like [ __ ] Turtle boy is threatened by Machado.
It's like, bro, it was such obvious like I'm threatened by her. Like what are you talking about? Anyway, but I will say one thing about her is that like she knows how to grift. I'll give her that. Like it's a really simple thing.
The longer you stream, your streams are on YouTube. I looked at my revenue, right? The longer a stream goes, the more streaming hours you have, the more money you make. I didn't know that. If you if you do like an hourong stream, it makes less money because it less ads are seen. Even if it has the same amount of viewers, the viewing hours are down. So, you make less money on it because YouTube doesn't show as many ads. And so in theory, if you just like on that 12 hour stream I did, I made [ __ ] bank with the with the revenue because I because it was 12 hours. So that's why she streams for like six, seven hours a day cuz just the more you stream the more. So [ __ ] it. Why wouldn't I do that? Yeah. But I'm actually going to say talk about interesting [ __ ] So you get two for one there. You know what I mean? So, hey, you know, God bless him.
I always said that about her. Like, whatever. It's a [ __ ] free country.
People, you want to silence her? I don't give a [ __ ] what she does. I just said I wasn't going to listen. I don't give a [ __ ] I'm not I'm a dude. I don't listen to shows about menopause and like, you know, flower arrangements at weddings and like that's chick [ __ ] Like, I have no interest in that. Why would I want what if a man wants to watch that? Red flag. That's weird. weird for any man to be like, "I'm a bunny." That's We all agree that's weird, right? Like, I think she would agree with that. That's [ __ ] weird to have male fans. Like, that's weird of a show like that. It should not be surprising that I have no interest in that. That's all. That's all. That's not a bad thing. It's just like, yeah, I'm a straight guy. Why would I watch that? That's not insulting. That's not like I think the show sucks because I also think reality TV sucks and I think soap opers suck and I think all that [ __ ] sucks. That's it.
Like I don't I have no interest in that.
And if you but if you if you can make a living doing that, God bless America, right? God bless America. Good for you.
I mean, whatever. All that shows is that anyone can make it in this country. Like it's [ __ ] if you're [ __ ] not if you can't pay your bills. If you're like I can't do anything in your life. Just look at Machado. She's making she's making bank, right? And all she does is [ __ ] drive around and yell into a phone. That's God bless America. I mean, what what did Frenchie say in the uh departed?
It's America. If you can't make money, you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] Is that what he something like that? It's a great quote.
And she's the perfect example. You can literally make a living in this country driving around yelling into a phone and going through the [ __ ] drive-thru and then putting your audience on hold for 15 minutes while you have a conversation on the phone with somebody else. People will watch that and you can MAKE MONEY.
IT'S [ __ ] AWESOME. WHY WOULD THEY HATE THAT? That's great. Congratulate.
[clears throat] I don't expect me to listen. But if you can do it, MORE POWER [ __ ] TO YOU. WHY THE [ __ ] WOULD I WANT TO STOP YOU? I don't give a [ __ ] Just don't expect me to be like, "That's great. I [ __ ] love that." Like, that's weird. Like, okay. It's like, so that's it. IT'S NOT A BIG [ __ ] DEAL.
AGAIN, it should be a gigantic red flag if I was like, I'm a [ __ ] bunny, bro.
I love hearing about menopause. I love hearing about the floral arrangement at your daughter's wedding. I love tell me more about your teenage daughter's work schedule. I want to HEAR ALL ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT THAT'S [ __ ] WHAT INTERESTS ME AS a straight man. THAT WOULD BE [ __ ] WEIRD, RIGHT? And if you didn't like what the [ __ ] that's all IT'S NOT A BIG [ __ ] DEAL. THAT'S IT.
So anyway, hope the bunions aren't mad about that because that's all I was saying. All right, I'm out of here, guys. We'll see you guys in the morning for the grifting and uh the bus stop live. All right, peace to your bum grease. Audi. And don't forget to brush your teeth.
[music] Tick tick tick [music] pressure detonate.
>> Too late now. Can't moderate flash. Let's go.
>> Everybody [music] talking. Nobody composed. You should have just let me be. But now you know what I do.
>> Who I am. I am.
>> You [music] know who I am.
>> Who am I?
>> Robbing and weaving where you telegraph hate. Flash BS pop every [music] time I breathe. Whole world watching. Enjoy those front row seats. Say my name.
Watch the algorithm screen boy.
>> Your drama sales on the fumes on [music] my pipe tails. Free clickbait for all the mirror ultimate [singing] bum for town clownies. Better all town clownies in the cheap seats. I built this house.
[music] You built noise. I do proof.
Time to raise this roof. Time to expose the hard truth. Now the spotlight stuck on you baby [music] boo.
Stay clear. Funny [music] now they fear.
Flash BS. Nope. No escape. Tick clock ran out.
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