The 4B Movement, originating in South Korea in 2017, is a social movement where women reject dating, marriage, childbirth, and relationships with men. The movement has sparked intense debate globally, with supporters arguing it represents women's empowerment and response to gender-based mistreatment, while critics view it as a harmful trend that reinforces gender conflict. The controversy highlights broader discussions about feminism, gender roles, and modern relationships, with the movement's impact varying significantly across different cultural contexts.
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The 4B movement. Let's talk about it.
I'm seeing a lot of back and forth about can women in America actually implement the 4B movement. The simple answer is no. Women in America are way too thirsty for men. And men know that. Too thirsty for men's attention, too thirsty for men's validation, too thirsty for the sexual desires that they have from men.
With all of that, there's no way that women in America as a whole, as a collective, could implement the 4B movement. I've been made the decision a while back to stop dating, not get married, not have kids, all before I heard anything about a 4B movement. And there's only a small minority of other women like myself who have done the same. But to believe that us small minority of women who made that decision could make up enough to make a 4B movement even be possible in America.
No, we can't. Right? We just a small minority of women who made that decision. That's it. That's all. Most women cannot and honestly most don't want to desenter men, don't want to do away with men. They still want the attention of men. They still want to deal with men. They still want to get pregnant. The reality is us small minority of women who have done away with dating, marriage, and kids. We don't make up enough to make a difference. And that's just what it is.
You got to understand that most people are liars. All right? And so I don't care what your favorite creator is getting online and saying. Most of these women get online, bash men every day, tell you how horrible they are, and log right off and be up in a man's face. But they'll tell you how to stay away from men, how men all cheat, how they do this, do that, and be up in a man's face as soon as they get off this phone. Some of y'all think because y'all didn't took a break from sleeping with men, you'd have been celibate for a couple months that you somehow can do the 4B movement.
No. You still on date apps. You still in your DMs entertaining men. You still going on dates. You're still going to clubs and outings looking for men. Like men still are the center of your attention, right? You just haven't slept with one in a while, right? So, I don't even know why y'all are like mixing that up. No, you could never do the 4B movement. You could never stand on business that hard. As long as you got women out here who willing to stand in line, get balloons popped, stand in line and do 360ies for men like they being auctioned off. As long as you got women out here who will let their man cheat in peace, women who okay with being the other woman as long as they can get what they want. As long as you got all of them type of women out here in the world, 4B could never be a movement here in America, right? Because women in America here are too pathetic and thirsty for that to ever be a thing. So let it go. I know you just wanting to use it as an argument to go back and forth with men online with the whole drizzle drizzle thing, but let it go because y'all can't do for a B. you you not able to stand on business that hard.
Let it go. Those women in South Korea, different breed of women. For some reason lately, um a lot of my friends that are mothers are sending me like a lot of don't worry girl, it'll happen for you um stuff.
I'm 38. I always wanted kids from from jump. I wanted kids. I wanted three kids. Um, there's no chance that I will have three kids, right? And it's especially painful to watch people that didn't really want kids or were neutral about kids or even neutral about getting married. Now, some of them experiencing like their third marriages or having kids or whatever, which is fine.
Everything happens the way it's supposed to. But there's also this other idea that like, oh, the 4B movement, like, yeah, women are really sticking it to the system. We're not having kids. We're not getting married. Some of us wanted to. Some of us are involuntarily participating in this movement. You have to be a little bit more considerate when you're talking to especially women that are grieving a life that they without question will not have anymore.
And I know it's positive, but I do think that some of the rhetoric around um being unmarried and being child-free, it's it's not a walk in the park for all of us and for some of us it is misery.
Um, so just leave room for every interpretation. And if you are involuntarily unmarried and childfree, it is so painful and I see you and it sucks. Um, but you know, I don't know. That's a very important take on her part. Not everyone is going to support it, but some people are actually living it without it being their choice. Hey everyone, welcome and welcome back to my channel. If you're new, my name is Maxine and if you're a returning viewer and subscriber, welcome back. I'm a little bit late for the 4B movement party. This was a movement started in 2017 in South Korea and lasted until 2019, but in 2024, it made waves in the US and I am just catching up now. Now, men are saying that the forbe movement is quite harmful. A lot of women are saying that too. And as you can hear from this lady, she is living it not by choice. So because the hype seemed to have settled a bit and I'm a bit late for the party, I thought I'd look at it from a different angle. So we are going to see the views of different people and how they think that it might affect the society in a negative way. I know that women are still for it because I can see a lot of women in my comment section when I post certain videos saying that they are for the 4B movement. I love it. You know, people should be free to do what they want to do. But let me not talk too much. Let's move on.
>> It genuinely pains me so much to say this, but I would like to thank the men.
Okay? I want to thank the men for the 4B movement coming to America. Because seriously, if a few years ago y'all didn't start nagging women by threatening to outsource women's services when women first realized that they now both work and carry the domestic load and do all the emotional labor and all the mental labor and basically started asking men like, "What do you bring to the table?" The men were like, "What do you bring to the table?
You know, I could just pay someone to clean. I could just pay someone to s my I could just pay someone to to do this, that, and the other." And if y'all didn't start doing that, we just simply wouldn't be here today because you showed your whole ass with that move. It made women realize that romantic love was indeed made up to extract free services out of them. And women felt like real [ __ ] you know, when men started saying this stuff because this whole time women thought we were supposed to do that stuff for love.
Like, we were supposed to do that stuff out of love and for someone who is willing to meet us halfway. And you know, for the longest time, it was really easy to justify that halfway point by saying, "Okay, well, you you cook clean and have kids and do all this stuff and I'll go to work." And so women thought that that was kind of the deal, but y'all were both doing those things because you both love each other. So then when women in good faith, you know, went to work and brought money into the house and all they said was, "Hey, you know, can you help me out with some of the stuff?" And men were like, "Why should I do that? I go to work." And the women were like, "Well, I go to work, too, but I also, you know, do this, this, and this." And men were like, "Well, I can just pay someone to do that." And women were like, "Oh, so this whole time I've just been an idiot thinking that you would, you know, meet me where I want to be men. This whole time you have operated on me making the kind of sacrifices that you yourself wouldn't be willing to make." You know, because women were doing all that stuff out of love and you cheapened it to a service, which got the women thinking.
It got them to realize that they actually provide a lot of these services. Even if most men would rather outsource that stuff than have a girlfriend, most men wouldn't be able to afford that. Neither the stuff nor it turns out, the girlfriend. like and women just sort of overnight became faced with the fact that it would take a lot of money to replace a woman's presence. Most men don't even have the kind of love that women are really looking for in order to be rewarded with all of the benefits that women bring to a relationship. Cuz when you think about it, it's like what do men do in a relationship? Seriously, like in the modern day, women also go to work and can theoretically provide for themselves. What do men do in relationships for women? They just say like I love you and all that stuff. They barely even say thank you to like their wives and girlfriends for cooking dinner, for cleaning the house, for minding the kids, for minding the pets, for minding all the appointments, doing all this and the other. Men don't do this stuff. Like in our society, it's not expected that men are going to do any of that stuff. And it's not even expected that men are going to thank you for it. And in fact, when women brought this discrepancy to the table, men said, "Fine, well, I'll outsource it." And women were like, "That's interesting.
Like, how much would that cost you? Can most men like, is this really a danger to me? Can most men really afford this?"
And it turns out absolutely [ __ ] not they can't. But now women know their value because y'all wanted to run your mouth about how replaceable women were and about how you could just replace them with literal services. Women this whole time have been over here doing the [ __ ] for love, out of the goodness of their heart, out of their, you know, duty to society, their duty to their marriage. And frankly, a lot of women were also doing it because they were forced, because they simply didn't have their own resources. and realizing that the stuff that we bring to the table that's expected that's not expected of men the same way the monetary discrepancy of those things is is too big for us to continue like this and so women have taken a step back from dating and now we have this 4B movement and now men are trying to respond with their own movement but it's like you bring nothing to the table you come into a relationship and you take and now women know that and not only that they also know that most of y'all can't afford all the services and all of the things that you rely on women for a surrogate alone to have just one child would cost you upwards of $200,000.
Most of y'all won't make that in 5 years. And women have been out here doing this [ __ ] for free for y'all because it's actually a whole lot of services that you would need to to outsource in order to replace just one woman. Meanwhile, y'all's services can and literally probably should be outsourced anyway. When it comes to men's services, they can easily be outsourced and should be outsourced for a onetime fee. And when women thought about that and when they thought wow like you know so this is how much money it would take for a man to replace me a wife or girlfriend or woman in his life and this is how much it would cost for me to replace a man in my life. So and in fact like improve my life by removing a lot of the danger and also unnecessary labor that men bring to the table like you have to pick up after them. you have to like be their mommy and their bang mate and whatever, listen to all their problems, but then also not depend on emotional support from them because they think that stuff is, you know, boring and they will just tell you to stop crying and like they don't know what to do. So like you can't even depend on them for the same things. So to really replace a man, it's a very low cost. Um like what does a man do around your house or in your life that is really not replaceable for free or for very cheap?
Like carry heavy things, you can just call a friend, that's free. Like what else? He's like specialized in some kind of service like he's a plumber so he can fix a leak. Okay, so once a year you call a plumber and you spend $500. So men's worth and value probably comes out to about $1,000 out of pocket. All the things that men say they bring to the table, like you know, all these trade skills, they often don't have them. Like you still have to call a plumber. You still have these are specialized skills that you'd be calling someone for anyway. Mowing your lawn, you again, you could outsource that for like 200 bucks a month. But most of the stuff that women do, cooking, cleaning, raising children, having children, all that, that would cost thousands and thousands of dollars every month. And women are like, "Why would I be giving that away for free when you think you can outsource it and you can't. You can't afford me. You are not [ __ ] You can't afford me. You can't replace all of my services with money, which means you can't afford a woman. Your services can easily be outsourced for like a couple hundred bucks a month. If that, if that." Meanwhile, to replace a woman's services, you would be looking at a lot more of a daily rate. And that daily rate would be very high because to pay somebody to come into your house and cook you a meal, that would cost you a lot of money. To pay somebody to provide emotional support for you, cuz you can't get that outside of a relationship with a woman, that's a therapist. Paying somebody to have a child for you outside of marriage, women don't have to pay for that. They can go out there and get knocked out by anyone they want. Or they can go to sperm bank. But for y'all to have a child with a unwilling woman, you'd have to pay her. It turns out the market rate for that is about $200,000 for a surrogate. Honestly, thanks for pointing all that out. Good luck out there.
>> So, this whole 4B movement situation, I've been hearing about it, been scrolling past it because it's to me just yet another trend and another way for women to try to take control of whatever situation they think they're in control of. But before I put my two cents in on it, let me explain what I think it means based off the research that I've done. The 4B movement is something that was originated in South Korea. The women over there felt as though the men were being violent towards them, wasn't being nice to them.
So they decided to come up with the 4B movement. The letter B in South Korea just pretty much stands for no. So if you put an action behind the word no, we came up with no sex, no children, no marriage, no dating.
Some women went as far as to say no everything. No talking to men, no working under men, no no even speaking to men. We don't want nothing to do with men at all. Period. So, I went and started looking at some Korea women's videos, women that actually stayed in Korea, and this is what I come up with cuz I am a Korean woman currently living in Korea. And I have so much to say about this topic. So, most of the 4B movement videos that I've seen on Tik Tok are made from foreigners. And I think Korean-Americans or just Asian people living in the West, but not actually people living in Korea. So though the 4B movement in Korea is a very very small fraction of the whole Korean population in general, it's just the Western media likes to highlight that part and make it seem like it's the biggest issue in Korea, which it really really is not. I can promise you that.
Don't believe all those sensational articles written online all the time.
Most people in Korea still like the other sex. We want to date. We want to find love. We want to get married. Those are like the big majority. And it's only the small group of extreme radical misandress and extreme radical misogynists. They just seem like the loudest because because now it's not to say that she speaks for all of the women in Korea. But what I've come up with is this. It seems to me like there's a small portion of women over in Korea that's pretty much doing the same thing that a small portion of women over in the US is doing, which is trying to control a narrative about men. Trying to get other women to come on board and find a way to control men. Seems to me like women are entirely lost these days.
To the point where y'all don't know what y'all want. Y'all are literally on the internet surfing trends, following trends to the point where you don't even know what it is that you truly want for your life and over your life. If you think about it, there has been so many trends with women and they all try to lead back to getting a man's attention in some way, shape, form or fashion. And that's the part that I just disagree with because it seems like women are so male centered that y'all don't know how to desenter men without disrespecting them, without feeling like you're taking something from them or feeling like you don't. It's like y'all trying to control men to get them to do what y'all want to do because you don't know how to deal with them. Whichever way that is, there is a way to deal with men. Excuse me.
And it seems as though y'all don't know how. So y'all trying to find out any way y'all can to control them. And that's where it makes women look whack. First, y'all started off with the hot girl summer. Now we outside. We twerking on headlights. You know, we free. We doing whatever we want to do. We in a hookup culture. We can do exactly what the men do. We going to get their attention one way or another. We ain't about to just be sitting around just messing with one dude. Y'all went with that. Then y'all went and said, "Well, forget it. We need men who got money. So, we about to go get our LLC's, start all these businesses. We about to run it up, make six figures, and we the girl bosses."
Y'all went for that for a second. Then y'all seen that wasn't really working because they didn't care about your money. Then we said, "Well, we're going to be on our soft girl era. Everybody is just like, I'm not on that." You know, we're going to do what we want to do and men love soft feminine women and if you want to be a well-kept woman, ladies, just be soft. So then y'all roll with that. That didn't work. Now all of a sudden y'all talking about a 4B movement where y'all saying we cutting everything out. We don't want to deal with men. We don't want their babies. We don't want we don't we don't want no sex. We don't want to date. We don't y'all what y'all telling everybody to delete their dating apps. Don't talk to men. Don't look at men. Don't give them no private part.
Don't get me wrong, as a woman, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'm all for that. I JUST DON'T LIKE THE fact that y'all try to make everything a trend to follow. As if that's not just the rules of being a modest woman to begin with. BABY, I'M NOT A PART OF NO 4B MOVEMENT. HOWEVER, I am a modest woman. I am a respectable woman. I am a wholesome woman. I been not walking around passing my body out to all the men. I been not letting nobody make me no baby mama times 2 3 4 5. I'VE BEEN NOT SLEEPING AROUND. I'VE BEEN NOT JUST DATING PEOPLE THAT'S not worth my time.
There's a lot of us real GIRL BOSSES THAT'S REALLY TRYING TO be within their feminine energy, really trying to learn themselves as women where we ain't A PART OF NO WHACKED SOCIAL MEDIA TREND.
NOT TO mention the lady in Korea just sat there and said that is a small portion of women. That is not what we represent over here. There are some women who feel like that, but that is not the majority. What happens is social media loves to pick up the negativity off anything and spread it. Why? Because negativity spreads more than anything else. But that is not ideal. That is not reality. And that is not the reality. A lot of y'all are completely lost and need to go outside, touch grass, and come out and just get with the real times. Y'all are confusing young women is what y'all are doing. A lot of y'all don't know what it is that you want for your lives. And because things are not working out for y'all, y'all keep trying to make all of these these trends for women to follow. And it's just weird at this point. The 4B movement really doesn't even make sense if you think about it. Actually, it does make sense.
just not in the way that you guys are trying to make it out to be. Because if you think about it, technically none of us supposed to be having sex before a marriage anyway. So when y'all say no marriage, okay, cool. But if YOU WAS NEVER HAVING SEX BEFORE A MARRIAGE, there would you wouldn't have to say no sex. And then the kid comes from sex.
But if you was already married, you wouldn't have to worry about having a kid out of wetlock. You wouldn't be a baby mama. And you wouldn't have to sit here and say no dating. You would already be married. So that would X out the other three that y'all stand for if you was to just simply take your time, date a man properly, and then marry that man, then have that man's child. You wouldn't just be out here roaming around like little alleys anyways. Little hell cats is what y'all. That's what y'all got between y'all legs. Little hell cats with a bunch of miles on it. I would rather us as women push the movement and more so trying to self-develop. You know, try to figure out what it is that you want. try to learn yourself as a woman than to try to act like it's like y'all taking candy from a baby from men.
That's the part I don't like about it.
Well, we're not giving them sex. We're not giving them marriage. We're not having their child. We're not dating them. We're going to ignore them. We're going to be MEAN TO THEM. IT'S LIKE A BUNCH OF KIDS throwing temper tantrums.
We're being mean to us, so we're not giving them our private part. WELL, WHY WAS you giving it to them to begin with?
I sure don't just walk around giving men my private part. And this is coming from a very, very attractive woman. I have millions of men in my inbox. millions of men that approach me day in and day out and look at me because I'm so sure of who I am and I know my position as a woman. I don't try to manipulate men in no way. I I if they speak, hi, how you doing? I'm doing awesome. I'm going to keep a smile on my face. I'm going to remain in my femininity as a woman.
There is no it's like it's not I'm not against a man. I'm not against anything.
I'm just in my power as a woman understanding what I stand for as a woman. Understanding my value as a woman. desenter men out of y'all conversations and focus on you and stop following these social media trends.
That's why y'all so confused. Y'all don't know what to do. And when I say desenter men, you don't have to disrespect men to desenter men. You could simply deal with men accordingly.
I deal with men accordingly, but I do not let it become the center of my world. So many of y'all are exhausted out here because y'all make men the center of your world. Y'all don't have anything else going for y'allselves. So y'all put your all into men and then when that man turns out not to be the man you thought he was going to be, it's like y'all world just come crumbling down and now y'all want to be like these angry women of all colors. It seemed like not even mad angry black women.
Listen, I'm not even going to ramble on no further. I'mma find a movement. I'mma find a movement for y'all. It's just all monkey see monkey do. No originality, none whatsoever from women. Y'all see one woman do something and y'all roll with it. Find yourself. That's the movement.
Go journal, ladies. Release those terrible emotions that y'all hold on to.
Learn how to meditate. Clear your thoughts. Come up with your own thoughts. Stop looking for somebody else to put thoughts into your head that you following that does not even align with you.
Go heal your trauma. Go talk to somebody. Y'all have a lot of healing to do, man. And I hate to see how y'all just follow somebody else's movement.
I'm not following nobody's nothing. If I don't want to have sex with a man, it's because I don't want to. It's not to punish any man. Desenter men and focus on yourselves and focus on becoming a better, higher version of yourself as a woman.
She makes a hell of a lot of sense. She really does. And I know that it's going to upset some women, but I do believe that if you are the kind of person who want to desenter a man, then you shouldn't let your focus be all about men. You shouldn't keep talking about them, trying to impress them, trying to hurt them, trying to do anything, just let it be. If the idea is to desenter them, just focus on yourself.
>> This morning, my girlfriend woke up and told me about a real rabbit hole she went down last night on the Tik Tok app about this 4B movement in uh South Korea. 4B. See, what's going on in South Korea? According to my girlfriend, all the women in South Korea are just not engaging with dudes anymore. They're not talking to them. They're not going on dates with them. And they're certainly not banging them, nothing. They're just stonewalling these dudes, every girl in Korea. And it's making its way to the US. It's becoming a real trend. So watch out, fellas, because the entire population of females in the United States, who by the way can't coordinate like between three of them what time to have [ __ ] brunch. But apparently, you know, all of them just worked this out, are going to just all stop talking to us. Let me tell you something. And you're all too conniving and backstabbing to pull this off. Even if you could all [ __ ] agree BECAUSE YOU ALL START SIDE EYEING YOUR FRIENDS LIKE, "WAIT a minute. Is she going to start dating that dude that I've been eyeballing on the sly?" And you'll all just hook up on the sly, WHICH IS WHAT YOU ALL [ __ ] do anyways. AND LET'S BE HONEST, WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN KOREA is that in one city in Korea, there's a small percentage of women that are trying to do this movement. It's basically the equivalent of like if all the blue-haired girls in Chicago quit banging dudes AND NO ONE'S BANGING THOSE GIRLS ANYWAYS. SO, I'M SURE WHAT'S GOING ON IN real life is in Korea there's about a thousand nerds that nobody's interested in WHO ARE LIKE, "OH, WE NO MORE BANG YOU." AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S THE MOVEMENT. I hate to bring it to you.
Break it to you ladies, but you're just pissing up a rope with this one. Why don't you start by getting four of you to coordinate lunch plans and move forward from there? Expand outward.
Start small.
>> These women are talking about how they're not going to date men, sleep with men, procreate with men, and all these other things, right? Feminism is going to lead these women into dating each other.
>> Congratulations. You walked face first into the point. And every time these men think they are the first person to realize this, that if you don't date men, well, then you'll have to date women or date no one. Yeah, that's the general idea. It's also not a new idea.
Separatism has been part of feminist thought throughout second-wave feminism of the 60s and 70s. a desire to live a life entirely separated from men and patriarchy. Women have thought about and talked about this issue and the consequences of it for decades, such as when the Chicago Women's Liberation Union wrote back in 1972 that ideological and political separatism wasn't really viable. That women still need men's economic, political, and social allyship to help dismantle patriarchy. But when it came to their private lives, that was another story.
And many women made the separatist choice back then and 50 years later are continuing to make that choice. For years, you've been telling women that they rely on the infrastructure built by men. So, they set about building and relying on their own. It is becoming ever more viable for women to live a life entirely separated from men, to live in community with women, to shop at womenowned businesses, to buy products designed and engineered by women, and utilize services and labor provided by women. And you are all so pressed by the very idea of women out there living their lives without men that you not only have to object based on your opinion, but to make out that it's a moral concern.
>> Is that not of the devil? like it's literally evil.
>> You would think that the devil would be far more involved in the horrific rates of SA, IPV, rape, and abuse that women face. The deadliest threat a woman faces is the man in her own home. And when women, battered and broken by what we've done to them, say enough rather than respect that, or better yet, take a moment of introspection to wonder why every woman you'll date has a story of being abused or harassed by a man. You use it as another opportunity to degrade women further, mocking them even as they say no more. That is the devil's work.
>> Like imagine if men got on this app and said, "Oh yeah, we're going to participate in the 4Bs."
>> Oh, but men did. Upset at feminist separatism, they decided to lean heavily into that you can't fire us, we quit energy and made their own separatist movement. And the original manifesto from 2001 highlights the difference between men's separatism. For men, it was about retributive punishment towards women. Until women started acting right and getting back to the feminine values of unwavering obedience, respect, and sandwich making, then these men were opting out. But the entire goal was always about manipulating women to fit their goal of what a woman should be.
And it's funny, I just finished watching a documentary on the FLDS. And there is not a hair's breadth of difference between these men, desperately trying to convince women that their only value comes by centering men, by being respectful, obedient, and feminine. and cult leaders using the exact same rhetoric to keep women fearful so that women could be traded around like commodities. It is about fear, control, and domination. Which is evidenced by the fact that while these men are claiming the 4B movement is all about man-hating, I can't even mention the name of the men's movement because it has been banned off all social media platforms for promoting violence and hatred against women with real life consequences. It was never about them going their own way, which is proven by the fact that they cannot help themselves but comment on, critique, and invade any space where men are desentered, which ultimately is what this is all really about. Men who are secure in themselves and their worth spend zero time concerned about what women who do not want them are doing with their lives. The only men who are pressed are the men who need women to send to men, that need to convince women that pursuing a man is the only major milestone in their life that gives women any value. Because those men believe the only measure of success in their life is to have a woman by their side that listens and obeys their demands. They are terrified because their entire lives they've been convinced that a man who is single, who doesn't have a woman that he can control, is worthless and has no value. And that is where men need to come together to offer their voice, their insight, opinions, and wisdom to help men find value and worth within themselves rather than wasting their breath insulting women who never wanted them in the first place.
>> 4B movement. Let's talk about it. It's a serious problem, fellas. We got ladies that don't want to deal with us because of the way that we treat them. The way that we treat them. They're complaining that we don't actually like them. We hate them. that's what they say and we don't treat them well. And these ladies have legitimate concerns, legitimate complaints and legitimate um things that they're bringing up. Okay? So, we need to solve this problem. Men like to solve problems, right? We need to solve this.
We don't want the women to not want to be with us. And by the way, I'm not affected by the 4B movement at all. And the reason why I'm not affected by it is because I treat women well. I treat women well. I care about them and they respect. They give respect and I give care and tenderness, right? And I haven't had any problems. Ladies are very fond of me. They like me. They like me around. They want to date all the I have no problems. If you want the women to be with you, you want them to date you and all that kind of stuff. I don't advocate for smashing outside of marriage. That's that's just not the way. Causes. It's just not right. Okay?
It goes against um the way God intended things and it causes way too many problems. Anyways, but if you want the women to be with you and date and all that kind of stuff, here's the first thing you got to do. You got to get rid of the crimson red moronic red pill ideology. You got to drop that crap.
Myin and Tate and all these dudes, they're saying things that are destroying our society. They're poisoning the minds of men. And if you really think that the women are going to be on board with, hey, I can have as many bees and hoes as I want, but you can only be with me. If you think she's going to be like, okay, yeah, that sounds good. You think she's going to really be down for that, bro? That's it's just it's asinine. It's asinine to think that she would want a dude like that. Why would she sign up for that?
Oh, well, she's getting her bills paid.
She's getting flued out, you know, she's getting bags and stuff. Yeah, but most women, even modern women, want, I would say, a traditional guy to fall in love with, have a family, have kids. Only women who've been through trauma and been ran through by Tyrone and Chad over and over and over. She loves drama. She can't be with a normal Carlton Banks type dude. Only those ladies would say something like, "Yeah, I'd rather be on Only Fans or I'd rather, you know, be a rotation. I'd rather have five guys on me." that those ladies have a problem, a mental and emotional problem. But regular ladies, especially traditional church ladies, they want one guy to marry and be with. So, we have to fix this problem. So, here's what I do when I'm interacting with women. This is this is my only goal. I don't want anything from the woman. I don't interact with women to get stuff because I need anything. I'm not doing any of that. I go in the interaction trying to give. So, this is what I do. I go in with the idea of think of trying to convey to her that I see you and I care about your life. I see you and I care about your life. If you do that, and this is to you too, women, cuz a lot of y'all women, a lot of y'all only see men for what they can provide to you, provide to you, who he can be for you.
He can just wife you up. Oh, he's going to he's a good candidate to fertilize my eggs, right? You don't really care about men in the sense that who is he as a person? What does he care about? What's he passionate about? You're only thinking about I want to know if he's a good guy for me cuz I want to be married and I want my eggs fertilized. You got to stop doing that. A lot of dudes are thinking, "Oh, okay. You want to get to know her because you want to you want to smash her." The 4B movement can be fixed easily. Men, you have to just care about the women. Give a frick. Care about her.
And if you do this, ask her, "What's bothering you? And what can I do to make it better?
Same thing, ladies. You sit down, have an honest conversation, and ask him what's bothering you and how can I make it better? And listen to what he says.
Listen to what she says. And actually do the thing. Do the thing. Say something like something that bothers her. Like, you know, when you take 5 to 8 hours to reply to my text, it just makes me feel like I'm not important to you. It'd be cool if you could get back to me sooner.
Now, if he says something like, "Hey, uh, I don't mind I don't mind, you know, paying for dates and stuff like that, but it'd be nice if you could treat me to a date sometimes." Just listen to what he says and treat the brother.
Treat the brother to a date. You know what I'm saying? It's reasonable, bro.
If she says it'd be nice for you to respond quicker to her text, just indulge her, bro. Just indulge her. You care about the woman, you could see something with her, indulge her.
>> You're almost halfway through. So, we are in 2026 now. Is the 4B movement still going on? How do we feel about it?
For those of us who have already got children, who are already in relationships, we are not looking into that at all. But there are people out there with children who are saying, "I will no longer be having any relationship with men. I will no longer be, you know, focusing on them, dating them, doing any of those things." Is that still happening in 2026? Do we think that this can be fixed? Have we completely given up? because I feel like a lot of women are saying that they would rather date beers. It is so sad.
It's heartbreaking to me because I still believe that there are good men out there. I really do. At the same time, I do understand the emotional torture that men can put women through, the physical abuse that women have suffered at the hands of men, the degradation, the complete mistreatment. I get it. I 100% understand it. But what I want to know is, is this how we're moving going forward? Is this a phase? Is it over?
What are we doing?
>> These women are talking about how they're not going to date men, sleep with men, procreate with men, and all these other things, right? Imagine if men got on this app and said, "Oh, yeah.
We're going to participate in the 4 Bs, and we're not going to sleep with women.
We're not going to talk to women, or date women."
>> You're not making this video for women.
You're making this video for men. Most of you don't even like women. It's apparent in the content that you make.
For years, you've told women to pick better, choose better men, and then you realize that with women doing that, a lot less of you are getting chosen. And women aren't saying they don't ever want to be with a man. They don't ever want to have kids. They don't want to do those things with raggedy, undeserving men. Women are tired of being married single moms. They're tired of being with men that weaponize their incompetence.
They're tired of men that don't want to do the work, don't want to go to therapy, don't want to read the books.
They are tired of men who don't want to be better. These women are not going to be scared or manipulated into submission. They're not interested.
They've heard what you're selling and they're still not buying it. Women have determined collectively. Until the caliber of men in the dating pool improves, they're taking themselves out of it. When you are out here telling women to pick better men, you didn't think it through. You didn't think about the idea that there are not better men out there. So, the better option for her is to pick herself. And that's exactly what the women did.
>> And there you go. I think she answered everything that I just asked. Have we given up? Or is it just that there's nothing out there's nothing out there worth dating, having children for, or having a relationship with? That's what I'm getting from the women that I see comment in my comment section on other videos. That's what I get from these video clips that I've seen. But I genuinely wanted to take another perspective. I wanted us to look at, you know, how men feel about it. How other women who are not involved in that feel about it because like people have been trying to identify, it is only a minority of women. I mean, we see it, but the majority of women are not talking about it because they're probably not interested or practicing it. But it doesn't negate the fact that it is happening. Women are frustrated.
Women are fed up. Women are just simply tired. I do understand why this was started in Korea for the minority of women who decided that they are going to go with this movement. They were sick and tired of the physical, emotional, and financial abuse from men. They were sick of being treated like secondass citizens. I completely get that. And I do believe that there's a general consensus for women in in America and different places who are practicing that now. I feel that women are in general just frustrated and disappointed in the behaviors of men and that's why we are here now.
>> 4B movement is a victory for us because we told them we don't want no old single mothers. They hit the wall. They're over 30. They had children before they got married and they got a high body count.
They're doing us a favor. I don't care how many men make videos like this, act like they don't care that women don't want to marry them or have their children. We're all very well aware that there is a single male loneliness epidemic going on right now. There's not a single women loneliness problem. The 4B movement is about desentering men and here they are doing what they always do and that's putting themselves in the center of somebody else's movement. They have been trying their hardest to co-opt any movement that women get. We say we want a a soft life, here they are talking about they're in their soft guy era. We say sprinkle sprinkle, now they're talking about drizzle drizzle.
Like every time we make a movement, they try to mirror us. How are you the leader when we're always following us? I guess we must be the leaders. I think the men are becoming afraid because they're realizing a woman's power. When they see these uh decreasing rates of marriage and child birth, they're realizing that it's the women who have decided to make it that way. So, they have always come up with some kind of scare tactic, some kind of manipulation. But the latest tactic is to act like it was their idea.
We actually like this, right, fellas? We um wink wink. Yeah, we we this is what we want, too. No, this isn't what you want, but it is what you're going to get. The manipulation and scare tactics aren't working, and they never will.
You're going to have to do the one thing you have been avoiding the whole time, and that is change and become a better man if you ever want to be with any one of these women. No one is settling for you anymore.
>> Men said they are no longer interested in dating. They are no longer interested in marriage. So, if they are no longer interested in dating or marriage, why would they become so involved in the 4B movement? They should just quietly accept that this is what we've been asking for and this is what we're getting. So, we're happy. We don't have to say anything. We don't have to oppose it. We don't have to talk against it. We just have to accept that we've always wanted it. Now, it's happening. Thank God. Let me leave my single life in peace. Let me not date anyone in peace.
Let me just be me. If it's a 4B movement and you say you don't want these kind of women, why are you making a video about it? It's none of your business.
Okay. So, I've been tagged in a video of this the guy with the beard quite a bit, but I'm not stitching his video or anything like that. Um, you know, as these men are upset about the 4B movement, a lot of these men that are making videos claim to be in relationships. They claim to be married or have girlfriends. So, the question is, why are they upset about the women saying that they are going to participate in the West 4B movement?
Okay, if you guys are not aware of what the 4B movement is, it comes from Korea.
The women in Korea were sick of their men [ __ ] too. Okay. Um over there, the the men treat the women like second um class citizens. They don't have a lot of rights. Um once they become wives and mothers, they take on a the majority weight of the family and the household.
And it is not those women said they're tired of that [ __ ] Yeah. So, um, a lot of the women, we're talking about it over here, too, as our men are mistreating us. Is it all men? Of course not. But anyh who, it don't matter. The 4B movement is no dating, no marriage, no sex, no children. Okay, I support the 4B movement. Um, you know, but again, the question is, why are these men so upset that claim to be in relationships?
They claim to have wives. You want to know why? Because if women close down shop and aren't going on dates with them, who are these married men going to cheat with?
Who are these men in relationships going to cheat with? If women up their standards and say no more, if you are already in a relationship, this is you don't have a dog in this fight.
But because we know that most men on the dating apps are married and are in relationships that most of the time the reason for a separation or uh calls for divorce, these 70% of women that's filing for divorce, a lot of them the husbands have been cheating. They have outside kids.
So who are they going to have kids with if the women are closing up shop?
He says it's all um women that hit the wall and um baby mamas and that kind of stuff. That that isn't stopping y'all from sleeping with those women, being with these women, and cheating on your wives with these women.
So yeah, that's that's why they're they're really mad. Who are they going to cheat with? They will not have open access or even if they doing it for their home their homeboy. Because I saw a video earlier and the woman is talking about how she overheard a group of men talking about cheating on their wives.
Actively cheating on their wives.
They're golding one another. Why didn't you get her phone number? The guy says because she was married. He said you married too. So that's that should work out. What?
But this is how they think. Um that the humble guy, he says a lot of these men get into relationships because they don't have regular access to buns. They don't have irregular access to sex, so they get into these relationships and even marry you, but they're they're settling for you. They You're not really their type. You're not really what they want. So, they're going to continue to search, continue to cheat on you.
But if women are saying, "You know what?
I'm done with that. I'm not trying to date, be in relationships, have sex with, or have children with any of these men." Then that is a problem.
for them because they won't be able to cheat on their wives with the women that they really want if women close up shop.
So you ladies stand fast and stay strong. I'm telling you, I'm sorry for those of you women that's out there looking for love. Good luck. Again, I'm telling you to do a background check on these men deep dives. A lady even said do a private investigator because these men lie real well. A lot of these men again, they don't really want to be in a relationship, but they they need someone. Um, and it's it's just it's unsafe. The closer proximity we are with men, the more unsafe we become.
Um, and of course, it's not all men, but it's a large it's a it's a large majority of men that are violent that will harm women if they can. And now that we're closing access and saying no to it all, the violence towards women is going to get worse. So you ladies, be safe out there. Carry your tasers, your mace, your bear mace, your spray. Um, those of you that want to get weapons, please go get your weapons. Um, you know, if you live in a city where you do need your concealed carry, go get it. If you live in a city where you don't need your concealed carry, go get your weapons. Um, those of you that have a problem with actual weapons, there are non-lethal um, weapons, the rubber bullets, they hurt real good. They'll give you a chance to get away because these men are going to become more violent. As you can see them, they're showing how unhinged they are on the internet now about the 4B movement. So, that ought to give you a tone of how they're going to behave.
Y'all be safe out there.
The most wild thing to me about the 4B movement is the outpouring of women who are realizing how much of a good idea it is and the outpouring of men who are like they can do that. I know it's a fairly recent thing, man, but yeah, women can get their own homes, live their own lives, and do basically everything that they want to without centering men around their lives. And it's very telling to think that this is a threat to you. You would think that some of you would see this as a step towards getting rid of the patriarchy and removing some of the stress in your life around being a traditional man, even though some of you may still want to be. But with the 4B movement, women don't need to center men around their lives because women don't need men to survive anymore. It was a fairly recent thing that women could start voting and having bank accounts. And in some men's minds, it's only going to get worse from here. So, with women not needing to rely on men anymore for housing and having actual money, men might have to start doing insane things in order to attract women, like having a personality. I just think that feeling threatened during a movement where women desenter men from their lives is a very big tell. If you thought you were involuntarily celibate before, wait until you see what women are like when they realize that having one of your babies could cost them their life. Oh, you definitely won't be getting any. And you know what? It's what you deserve. But now these women can focus on their careers. They can focus on their female friendships. You already hate the fact that there are rich aunties out there, child-free and happy. You just made even more of them.
You You said you were going to get your passport, but you didn't do that. You said there's no need. you can change the laws right here. Good luck with that because these women aren't risking it.
But shout out to the child-free women who are really appreciating the life that they're living where they're not with a man who thinks that everything that has to do with that child is your responsibility. You you thought that you were really going to stick it to women, but what you really did was you're you're going to let them realize how amazing life is for some of them without children. Some of your jeans do need to die off. So, I know you wanted a legacy.
You wanted a little mini me to be as mediocre as you are. Now you won't even get that.
>> The 4B movement will never work. This is a waste of time for everybody because you can't see the bigger picture.
>> WHAT'S THE BIGGER PICTURE?
>> WOMEN ALREADY IGNORE ME. SO I'M ALREADY used to >> The bigger picture is women telling America, "You are not going to tell me what I can or can't do with my body."
>> Sorry. Trump won. So we are going to tell them what they're going to do.
>> Why advocate anything for women when it's not your problem.
>> Do you have a mother?
>> I do have a mother. I love her.
>> Did she not raise you properly? Why would you not have empathy or compassion for women going through something just because it doesn't affect you? Because women already treat me poorly. So if something hurts them, it makes me happy.
How is a national ban on abortion going to affect me? That's funny because ultimately it does affect how does banning abortion affect me? Big corporations want to ban abortion because the birth rate in America is declining and they're not going to have workers for the future. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY TOLD ME. THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO BAN it because it was the RIGHT THING TO DO.
>> YES, YOU ATE UP EVERY single word.
owners of these big corporations have come out and said this themselves and said they want to ban abortion months ago. So they want more workers and I want to do what's right for the country.
I guess I just don't SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE IF POOR if poor people have kids when they're barely getting by paycheck to paycheck that can render them homeless or worse somebody ends up homeless from a kid that's their own fault. GET A SECOND JOB.
>> Forcing the working class to children in crappy situations because they don't want to fix price gouging and home prices. So the solution is banning abortion so they're forced to struggle even more is not the solution. The solution is always going to be to oppress as long as I as a male benefit from it.
>> Well, I think women have spoke loud and clear. They're done with men like that.
>> You're like that. Okay, go get >> I'm just going to go Republican WOMEN'S.
HAHA. I'M GOING TO GO GET INTERNATIONAL.
NOW WE JUST NEED A VOTE.
>> OKAY, go find someone insecure that you can abuse, I guess. So good luck with that because it seems like they're done with people like you. It's no longer their body, their choice. It's now their body, my choice.
>> Are you a rapist?
>> What? No, I was just making a joke.
Relax.
>> I didn't know rape was funny.
>> DONALD TRUMP WON, SO NOW IT IS. FREEZE.
>> OKAY, do me a favor. Go say that to a woman in public you don't know around a man like me and see what happens.
>> What are you going to do? Make a video about it? ARE YOU IMPLYING I WOULDN'T DO IT?
>> YOU MAKE THESE JOKES ON women because you know there's no threat of violence.
You would never do this in front of a man.
>> I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE WRONG, BUT IT'S TOO LATE. PRO 2025.
SORRY, FUTURE DAUGHTER. I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU.
>> I'm all for the forbe movement, but please be safe. These are the same men that say women should go back to being in the house. Same men that tweet your body my choice forever. We already have men upset in the podcast. Remind yourselves that single men who are more depressed than women. Now, if you take away your casual hookup, your situationship, and there are a bunch of women who just stopped dating entirely, you are going to wake up a group of angry, angry men. So, I caution you. If you can get strapped up, get strapped up. If straps aren't your thing, please be cautious going out by yourselves. Go out in groups of three or four. Go out with the male friend if you can. And I hate to say it, but keep an eye on your children.
So, a lot of men and ping me girls are kept saying, "Well, you guys did forbe anyway. We didn't needed you. And anyway you guys are you thinking that only women's value is coming from the sex and reproductive your body and uh how you could have a son or daughter.
Don't ever like stretch over those kind of comments cuz that is the reason why they are trying to stop us. They are so furious that those all of the women are trying to boycott and trying to stop meeting the man. They are terrified.
They are so terrified that we are actually refining the highly misogynistic culture and finding we are like fighting back. And that is the reason why they're so upset. And that is the reason why they're like making such words like, "Oh, get back to the kitchen.
[ __ ] you."
The thing is they are so afraid that they have to go to the kitchen on by themselves because they always dreamed about their own wife who are always going to take care of themselves and we saying no we don't give a [ __ ] about that and then now sudden they're so worried so they're just like saying like ah that's nothing and they're just saying like, uh, are you insane?
How about your family? How about your dad? Don't think about it. We're just saying that now in our private life, we are not entering entering any single man in our private life. But they're so worried about it because if the woman is denying the fact that we are not going to meet them and like we are like like refusing them. It means that in future life they have to get into kitchen on by themselves. So in reality when we do the 4B movement the moon are crying are like furious.
They are the one who have to get into the kitchen un by themselves because there would be no one no woman who are going to cook for themselves and that's what they're mostly mostly angry about it and that's our that's our first victory.
So what we have to do what we have to do is that just keep move on. Don't don't ever look at them. Don't give a like a emotional labor for them. Okay?
And then just move on.
So that our woman could have a solidarity and we could finally work for ourselves and finally use our whole energy for our ourselves. And that is really important because thousands of millions and tons of years there wasn't any history that women just used their like their source like fully for themselves. There wasn't any single history of it. So this is the time that we just making ourselves like the womanhood like we are making our own like 4B the solidarity and 4B group that just live for ourselves.
And if they're talking about like oh how about birth rate? How? How about don't don't take care about it. Just yapping and like making like guilty on our minds. Don't ever think about it. It doesn't matter. I don't I don't give a [ __ ] that South Korea will extinct because of the low birth rate. I don't take I don't care about it cuz then you guys should change then you guys should change your misogynistic culture. You guys should change your mindset. But they don't do anything and just kept whining like we're done of it. We're done of listening to them. Okay. We're not done listening to that. And every woman who are worrying because uh like chitty chat like the man like talking about blah blah blah blah all of the [ __ ] don't don't ever just don't ever look at them.
No, just just don't look at them and just walk in our rock and just we're going to celebrate our sisters and celebrate our like um our success. celebrate our happiness and celebrate just ourselves. We're not going to We're not We're done. We're done taking care of man. We're done talking about man. We're done talking about and convincing them.
The 4B is meaning of we gave up the man.
Finally, we gave up the men who are never going to take on our sides. Never.
Please believe on me. Never. They're not going to take on ourselves. So, what we're doing is just we're giving up and then just moving on. is the time, the final time that we're just gonna move on. And actually, not having children is good for our environment as well. That is the first thing, the most effective way to protect our environment is not having a baby. So, good for our earth, good for our health, good for women, just bad for men.
But I don't take it. I don't care. I don't I don't care. They're like crying and whining.
Let's just move on, sisters. We don't care about them. That is the meaning of 4B.
>> The 4B movement is going to force men to be red pill.
>> On today's episode of Old [ __ ] New Excuses. So, what exactly was forcing y'all to be red pill prior to this?
Because this is something that is fairly new to American women that started in Asia. If I'm not mistaken, it was either South Korea or China. We conveniently forget that like last year y'all were hooping and holling about being passport bros and then we found out that y'all were going over there only to get robbed, played, murdered, and stranded.
It seems like y'all are willing to risk lifetime in finances instead of just being a decent person.
Just go to therapy. Okay, psychologytoday.com.
Go to therapy. Find you a therapist because y'all are getting old and the average life expectancy is only going down and y'all are having heart attacks at earlier ages.
It's a little tired. These women have let it be known that y'all can't scare them into anything. You can't guilt them into anything. and they are prepared to live that lonely life and live alone surrounded by people that give a damn about them. Like sometimes it's funny, but I really don't like seeing y'all going outside like this. Not all the time. It ain't too late to turn your life around because y'all don't have nothing that anybody wants. Like y'all have never been taught how to be wanted because women don't need y'all anymore.
So now you have to be likable. Now you have to be wanted and you don't know how to be wanted. And one last thing, I've been seeing so many men get on here and position themselves as last options, like a last resort.
You basically, you don't have any other options. You might as well pick me.
Yeah, that gets the panties off. I said I was done, but I got one last thing.
You don't want to get to that age where all of your friends and all of your close family members that are close to your age are talking about their kids nonstop.
not being able to go out with you because they're going to their ch their child's graduation, planning family vacations, getting married, and only want to be around their spouse, and you just go home and get on your podcast or drink yourself to death or do whatever that's going to soothe the pain, but the pain is going to keep coming back because you never did the work and now you're alone and then you're going to run out of money and then you're going to go to one of those nursing homes where you just get enough of your retirement money or enough of your social security to pay for you to live there and you have $5 to your name for the rest of the month. And then you just sit there in that chair until you wither away because from what these nurses are saying, that's a lot of y'all. And then that's the end of the story. A very sad story, but it was yours. Honestly, all the men that's currently losing their marbles over the phobia movement are actually the men that, as expected, there's so many of them in my comment section saying, "What the [ __ ] do you know? Why are you even speaking about this?" First of all, bisexuality exists. News flash. But another thing, some of you are triggered because what I'm saying is actually true. A lot of you are so mad because just like woman can have a life, a career, a family without the presence of a man in the household, a lot of you straight mens out there who are triggered by what I'm saying can't do the exact same thing. Because some of you desperately want your mom in the house or someone to take care of you because you don't see a woman, you see a object.
>> Or be movement will stop women from dating. know your attitude, personality, and condescending tone will stop women from dating you.
>> So, I just saw this Tik Tok video of this man announcing the 5B movement for men to join in response to women's 4B movement, saying that if women don't want to be around us, then fine. We don't want to be around y'all either.
And we're revoking access, mind you, in it in his big age, mind you.
And what I find so funny about this whole thing is how unoriginal men are. 5B movement drizzle drizzle in response to Sprinkle Sprinkle. Like that's so lame. Get your own thing, you know. But not only that, but it's so funny how these men be on their chest about being leaders and wanting women to submit to them, yet y'all feed off of what we do.
Y'all are following the tone and the pace that we're setting.
So, who's submitting to who?
All right. Since I started the 5D movement, Tik Tok has permanently banned my account. They have used my IP address to stop me from promoting any videos.
They did something with the algorithm to where I get zero traffic. So, they're doing a lot. All because I started the 5B movement. And there also other Tik Tockers lying about the 5B movement, distorting what the 5B movement is all about and tricking people into thinking that it's it's about something else. The 5B movement is not a retaliation against the 4B movement. It has it really has nothing to do with the 4B movement. So basically, the 5B movement is all about traditional women. is all about men. It's all about traditional families. Traditional men getting their stuff together and focusing on traditional women. So most of the 4B women, most of them are masculine and and overweight. They're feminists, right? And so why would we care about masculine traumatized women not dating if we like since we like feminine soft traditional women? Why would we care if masculine aggressive women don't want to date? It's it's like it's like a bunch of short broke men saying that they're not going to date anymore. When you like tall, if you like tall men, are you going to be mad because short men don't want to date?
Does that even make sense? It doesn't make sense, right? These women are traumatized, masculine, aggressive, loud, mean women.
So why would we we don't want them? We like feminine, soft, traditional women.
Why would we get mad? It's It's okay.
Even if you all went extinct, it would be okay. It's no problem. So, please stop lying about the 5B movement. The 5B movement is all about men getting themselves together and getting a traditional wife.
See, these a lot of these modern women, they hate everything that rejects them.
If it rejects them, they're against it.
So, that's how they are. If if I had have included modern women and all that, they would have been okay with it, right? But they hate everything that rejects modern women. The main problem they have with this is I'm saying we're going to focus on traditional, the trades, the soft women, the feminine women, the traditional, the stay-at-home moms. They have a problem with that. So, they're the ones reacting as if they're hurt in a form of humiliation, laughing, and and trying to make a joke out of it. But the truth is, They seem to be hurt because they're getting rejected. Think about it. I'm telling the men to get themselves together and when they get themselves together, avoid them, right? I'm saying go for traditional women after you get yourself together.
It is also for women men, excuse me.
It's also for men that already have themselves together. So for the six figure men, it's happening anyway. The majority of six figure men make more money and prefer traditional wives. The traditional housewife population has doubled. It's increasing anyway. Study shows millennials and Gen Z mostly prefer traditional women. So, it's happening anyway. But anyway, I thought I'd clear some things up. Y'all have a good day.
>> All right. So, we've come to the end of the video. But my take on this is if you are practicing the 4B movement, make sure it's about you protecting you, creating a safe environment for you, and for your own empowerment. Don't make it about punishing men. Don't even include them in this equation. Make it to be about what you want. Your own space for healing. Your hobby movement. When I think about it, it sounds like it's coming from women who are at a place of hurt or who are tired of being hurt by men, who are tired of being devastated and disappointed by men, who are tired of being controlled by men, who are tired of being illreated by them. And I can completely understand why this movement would stand firm with these kind of women. Now, like somebody else said, not all men are the same. Same as not all women are the same. And while I can agree that some women should practice the 4B movement, if they've had enough and they reach a limit and they can't stand anymore and they think that, you know what, this is the phase of my life that I am at. This is what is going to be best for me. I completely support it. I completely do. But because you are supporting the 4B movement, I don't think you should oppose somebody else who decides that nope, I want a relationship. I want marriage, I want children, I want everything that is out there because I still believe that there are men out there who can offer me these things, you know, who I can create this life with. I think it's okay for us to have our own opinions and to have our own practices and things. And I don't think anybody's opinion or place in their life is more or less valuable than someone else's.
I don't like the war. I don't the gender war is just taking all different kind of forms. So I have heard mention the drizzle drizzle movement.
This is the first time I'm hearing about it. When I tell you that the things that go on in the US are not so pronounced in the UK. So sometimes it's only when I go on to Tik Tok and click on certain videos, it takes me to other videos and give me a sense of enlightenment and open my eyes to what's going on. So when I hear about the drizzle drizzle movement, you know that my next video is going to be about that because until today I've never ever heard of it. All these clips that you've seen, I've not watched any of them before. I was actually listening to them for the first time and it's a learning experience for me. So let me know your take in the comment section below. Are you still 4B?
Are you 2B? Are you 1B? Are you 7B?
Because I know it's different strokes for different folks and it absolutely depends on what phase of your life you are at. Until next time, I'll see you again in my next one.
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