Ex-Gay TikTok is Worse Than I Thought

[00:00:00]Oh my god. Who's the game master?

[00:00:01][clears throat] The >> game master. Are you ready?

[00:00:02]>> Yes, I'm ready to be tortured.

[00:00:05]>> Excellent.

[00:00:06]>> Hey SP, it's Jamie. Welcome back to another video, but welcome back either way. And today I have the lovely Roly.

[00:00:12]>> Hello.

[00:00:13]>> It's been a LONG TIME. WELL, FOR US at least, it's been a long time.

[00:00:15]>> I know. It feels like it's been a while, but everyone's probably like, it was like a month ago.

[00:00:18]>> It was [laughter] so long. I don't know.

[00:00:20]I have to bring back every day. Every joint channel. Oh my god. Relationship channel. [laughter] >> Today I'm going to talk to you.

[00:00:27]>> Yeah. Thank you. I'm very excited.

[00:00:29]>> I just told Roly what we're doing.

[00:00:31][laughter] >> What was your reaction? Oh god.

[00:00:34]>> It was It was the eye roll so intense I literally fell backwards. [laughter] I'm excited though cuz we've not done this before.

[00:00:40]>> No, I've never done this before. No, >> it's because I thought my FYP on Tik Tok was betraying me, but it was people reacting to this type of content. I was like, "Okay, so those are in there."

[00:00:49]Basically, today we are looking at exhos Tik Tok exgays. There is something in the background today though.

[00:00:59]Oh, it's me. Oh, look. It's me. Can they see it? It's about here. I slightly Oh my god. Look what you've done.

[00:01:06]UNACCEPTABLE.

[00:01:08]>> I cannot believe you do this to me. How dare you?

[00:01:12]>> There you go. It's me. It's my little face. Hello.

[00:01:15]>> You ready to get started?

[00:01:16]>> Yes.

[00:01:17]>> Are you sure?

[00:01:17]>> Five truths the church can say to help LGBTQ plus people from an exgay.

[00:01:22]>> Oh, for God's sake.

[00:01:23]>> So, I think this is all about helping people struggling.

[00:01:26]>> Okay. We're being gay, >> which we would know about.

[00:01:28]>> Yeah. So, it's not about being straight.

[00:01:29]Marriage kids or trying to look straight doesn't make you righteous. Marriage is a beautiful gift, but it doesn't solve the struggle with sin or erase temptation. Only Jesus can complete you and bring real transformation.

[00:01:39]>> Thank you. This imaginary person in the sky is going to change me. That's called religious psychosis.

[00:01:43]>> I find this one very insidious because it's almost as if they're trying to say, "We will help you accept your LGBTQ plus self." But then when you look deeper, no, it's actually like find God and he will he will fix you.

[00:01:55]>> I'm not broken.

[00:01:56]>> The rest of it's very boring. I find it really gross that it's praying on people who are going to be struggling to accept their sexual orientation and it's like come here. We can help you. They're just going to put you through some kind of conversion therapy and say that it's the power of God.

[00:02:10]>> It just makes me sad. And I know we're going to get to like more intense things. We've got I can see like the list of like people and things, but even just that enough alone just makes me go >> Yeah. It makes me sad for the people who are sharing it. I also get angry at them because I'm like, you are literally taking advantage of people in really vulnerable positions and it feels like are you trying to sell some kind of conversion therapy?

[00:02:32]>> All of these things when it comes to a lot of this stuff is all just about pyramid schemes, making money, buy courses. There's a whole man on on TikTok that's like I'm the straight acting brotherhood and he's made that's made the thing for straight acting normal gays and he's like we all go to the resort and talk about business. Now you all just go and each other. This is literally an excuse for you guys to go and hook up and pretend that you're like straight people. It's just it's so cringe.

[00:02:51]>> What's straight about talking about business?

[00:02:53]>> I don't know exactly.

[00:02:55]>> We're business people. Like we have careers.

[00:02:57]>> We literally spoke business downstairs.

[00:02:59]>> We did. Yeah.

[00:03:01]>> Straight now.

[00:03:01]>> Yeah. Yeah. We're going to expense that conversation.

[00:03:04]>> How I stopped being [music] gay. God falling in love with you stopped being a gay man by falling in love with another man.

[00:03:13]That's very true. They do wor they I mean these people they're like I want to lick suck your toes Jesus. Oh my god it's squat for Jesus. Squat Jesus loves a good peach. You loved it when you had a nice little BBL. [laughter] >> Can you imagine BBL's for Jesus?

[00:03:30]>> That's your next business.

[00:03:31]>> It is. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. I'm going to go to Brazil and get a BBL and be like you know what it's for Jesus.

[00:03:35]Incredibly straight.

[00:03:36]>> That is true though. Like they do f over another man. It's quite que.

[00:03:40]>> It is. I haven't got the videos.

[00:03:42]>> Okay.

[00:03:42]>> Of these ones. It was this person me before and after being set free from LGBTQ plus lifesty >> looking like that sis and you're not free from the LGBT lifestyle. Jesus Christ.

[00:03:52]>> The after is it?

[00:03:53]>> And someone's just gone how my husband needs a miracle.

[00:03:57]>> What?

[00:03:58]>> Honey, your husband's on Scruff and Grinder every single weekend. What are we doing?

[00:04:01]>> It's like what was it the Oh, my husband is gay. Like the Mormon show. They know they're marrying a gay man.

[00:04:08]>> Oh, and he's like you you don't act on it. It's only sinful if you act on the attraction.

[00:04:14]>> Jesus Christ.

[00:04:15]>> Exactly.

[00:04:16]>> That's what Jesus Christ Jesus Christ.

[00:04:19]>> If God can do it for me, he can do it for your husband. Never stop fighting for him in prayer.

[00:04:24]>> They're normally I never go for someone's looks, but come on, City Boy.

[00:04:27]Look, what's this camp of camp eggs?

[00:04:29]Like, what we doing?

[00:04:30]>> I did watch these like I'd like to check them first and I was like, Roly's just going to say they're all clearly gay.

[00:04:35][laughter] >> Nothing is impossible with God. Okay, make money appear in front of me right now. Like nothing's impossible. Oh, it is just really miserable though.

[00:04:44]>> This is so It's like you just know these people are unbelievably upset and sad and just >> Do they believe it though? Is there something going on where they genuinely believe?

[00:04:53]>> I do think there can be like almost you you get a little bit of psychosis when it comes to lying so much. I think eventually Do you remember that drag queen? I say drag queen. That horrific politician in America. What was he called?

[00:05:04]>> No, I know. You put a photo of him. You know, you know who I mean. And he was like, I wasn't a drag queen. Nobles and there's a photos coming from the drag queen. No, I didn't do it. And a complete fraudster. I think sometimes you can get to a stage where if you say something enough times to yourself, it's almost like it doesn't exist. Oh god, who what's this now?

[00:05:17]>> This was just somebody else being like, I'm an exgay. And this comment just made me miserable. Hi, can you please tell us how to pray for friends who live this life?

[00:05:26]>> Oh, for God's sake.

[00:05:27]>> I'm so scared to lose one of my closest friends because he doesn't want anything to do with God, Jesus, or Trump.

[00:05:32]>> Oh, [ __ ] off, Lorna. You stupid. What are you talking about? What's this all this? Leave flowers mountains like [laughter] what's the username? This is very hiking.

[00:05:42]>> It's very 2006 MSN day when like you'd have like do you have do you have back in the day we'd have like song lyrics and those are like emojis all around. I was like who is this? What what friend is this?

[00:05:51]>> You had to like find the name in all the symbols [laughter] and everything.

[00:05:54]>> Imagine being that deplorable that you're like pray for my friends they don't join the like gay lifestyle or not want to be part of church or Jesus Christ and just like grow up.

[00:06:02]>> The manipulation is so real. There's one hand we like we can be sad and see people being like, "Oh, I'm an exgay. I found God." And be like, "I'm really sorry that you didn't feel like you could live your truth." But then when I get angry is when they start posting about it and saying, "You can do it, too." Because you are just praying on vulnerable people to manipulate them into thinking that it's even possible.

[00:06:22]>> And to then be like, "Hi, can we all pray for my [laughter] friends?"

[00:06:25]>> No, we can't pray for your friends. How about you just going, I don't know, just leave them alone.

[00:06:29]>> Yeah. [laughter] full [laughter] a my friend wants to pray the gay away in me and I don't want to be friends with her anymore. It's always funny cuz it's the same kind of people that say like leave us alone if you say anything about LGBT around other people like no don't show it on my throat and they're like please that's brave my friend they're turning away from God. Oh god what's >> I used to be a doctor.

[00:06:56]>> I used to be a lesbian. You have lost yourself to Madness.

[00:07:01]>> I started following the Lord's plan for my life. What? What lord's plan? Like what? What did they do? LIKE I WANT YOU TO SHOW me the exact exact page that made you go, oh yeah, what happened here? No, you're probably just horrifically bullied and was just s, oh no, I need to change my ways. There is no plan. There's 8 billion humans on the planet. There is no plan.

[00:07:20]>> I just work here.

[00:07:22]>> It's one of the reasons why on this slightly different topics. It's why I get people people talk about how like it's my country. It's my country. You had a one in a billionth chance of your consciousness entering your body in this specific era. You didn't do anything to have be in this country. IT WAS PURE JUST LIKE scientific luck that you just happened to have the consciousness in this body to be like it's my country.

[00:07:40]>> Why Keith? Why is it your country? I don't get it cuz your conscious went into a body. It's the kind of thing like the idea that you're like, "Oh, God's plan for me." All these bad things that happen to like young children as well cuz that's God's plan. Oh, I loved it when that that kid died of cancer. I love when that kid died like this about God's plan. God, if if that's what he wants to do, what lesson have you taught there? You've ruined a family. Oh, thank I'm really strong now because my child died at child birth. Sorry to put it that so dark, but it's I just hate when God planned thing. I'm always like, you can literally go and suck a fart out my ass. Like, I'm sorry. Shut up.

[00:08:09]>> No, I'm with you. And like with the country thing as well, I don't understand why people get so pressed about it. You were born on a certain rock that is objectively better than being born on other rocks because I don't get it. Access to more things and you have more rights. Why do you then think other people shouldn't?

[00:08:23]>> Yeah. Just cuz they were unfortunately born in a place where more bad things happen. I just I think it's awful.

[00:08:27]>> And go back two generations, maybe three, and your ancestors were not born on the same rock as you.

[00:08:32]>> Exactly. Exactly.

[00:08:33]>> I was in the LGBTQ plus community for 10 plus years of my life.

[00:08:38]>> He's describing it as if it's a club.

[00:08:40]>> Yeah.

[00:08:41]>> A [laughter] member for 10 years.

[00:08:42]>> Gay's honor.

[00:08:43]>> That's honor. Shane O Connor, >> that's implying like, oh, I wasn't born gay. Well, cuz they don't believe that.

[00:08:49]I wasn't born gay. I suddenly became gay at X age and then 10 years later I was like, "No, >> no, just decide I'd actually >> No, here is my membership. I would like a refund." [laughter] >> But then I came face to face with Jesus.

[00:09:01]>> Oh wow.

[00:09:02]>> He was like, "Rick, >> you either put me first or that thing.

[00:09:05]You can't serve two masters." [cheering] >> What's the You can't serve Who Who's the Oh my god. Who's the game master?

[00:09:13]>> Is it Satan? They trying to say Satan.

[00:09:15]>> Maybe.

[00:09:15]>> Hell Satan.

[00:09:16]>> If you compare it to God, you would say Satan.

[00:09:18]>> I would guess so. Judging by some of the things that say that Satan wanted, he sounded like quite actually like a good person cuz he wanted like free will and like did he want like equal rights to everything? God's like no. [laughter] >> Don't understand when they say things like this way they portray heaven and God and like all these people who like not sinners. They actually make it seem like heaven's full of awful people. They It's never nice people who seem to be like, "I don't know. I I just live a nice life." It's always like people who scream on the street. Like the West Baptist Church, they fully believe that they're the only people that are going to go to heaven. I'm like, why would we want to go to heaven when you're literally holding placards like, "Thank God for 911."

[00:09:50]>> Who's going to want to? And nobody wants to be in your neighborhood.

[00:09:53]>> Yeah. Exactly. And the stupid thing about it is like all of these people then I think everyone else around the world with different religions are also wrong. And it's like, well, who's right then? Who's actually right? Because you all think different things.

[00:10:01]>> Yeah. I just think the right people are the ones who are just being nice.

[00:10:04]>> Yeah. I I don't get it.

[00:10:06]>> And I think as like LGBT plus people, there's such a guard up around religion as well. Like I will instantly until somebody because like I know there are plenty of religious people out there who are also very open-minded and accepting.

[00:10:17]But until you know that explicitly, I'm going to be like I'm going to like keep back a little bit and to like protect myself cuz unfortunately there are really shitty people who use religion as an excuse to be shitty.

[00:10:28]>> But I also think sometimes when it comes to religion I'm always like you might believe that but you also subscribing to something that gets used horrifically and not like little portions like there is that massive portion of people. It's not like saying, "Oh, there's a trans person over there who committed a crime, therefore all trans people are bad."

[00:10:41]That's such a tiny tiny tiny proportion if you actually think about religion and what people do with it. It's not a small portion of religious people who are also incredibly hateful towards minorities and you still subscribe to that ideology. So, there's a part of me that goes, I'm very funny about religion. I'm always just like, you still subscribe to that thing that gets used to justify some of the most heinous things in the world.

[00:11:00]>> Can't be like that.

[00:11:02]>> And I was like, but but Jesus, I I I just want love. Oh, I'm glad that you said that because I got overwhelming love.

[00:11:09]>> And who where did you hear? Were you doing a monster trip? Like, what were we doing?

[00:11:13]>> But Jesus, Jesus, I I just want to be satisfied. Well, Rodri, I'm glad that you said that because I'm the living water who can quench your thirst.

[00:11:21][cheering] >> I'm like, >> I'm like, but but Jesus, I just want to feel like I belong. I I want a home.

[00:11:28]Well, Rodri, I'm preparing a home for you with me for all of eternity. I mean, [cheering] >> I'm like, >> realistically, Jesus wouldn't speak English, so how are you talking to him?

[00:11:37]>> I mean, realistically, Jesus at best was a dude that lived 2,000 years ago.

[00:11:42][laughter] >> I like how your brain went to like language difference.

[00:11:45]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:11:46]>> I feel like if somebody really had the power, they could probably speak more than one.

[00:11:50]>> Yeah. I just I don't know.

[00:11:51]>> Yes. I see your logic.

[00:11:52]>> Like when they're talking to him, people say things like, "Oh, I was talking to him." They literally give they're giving him like actual sentences of like this Jesus has said this specifically to this guy like what were you doing? Like were you literally just sitting there like I don't know >> a conversation with yourself.

[00:12:05]>> Yeah. All these stories you hear about this kind of stuff always comes from someone who was like completely inebriated or like off their tits or something. I'm just like >> or like near-death experience.

[00:12:12]>> Yeah. Of course you're hearing all this [laughter] [ __ ] cuz your body's shutting down.

[00:12:16]>> All these people who they've read it and they're they're like making it sound like they were actually spoken to but they're just talking about their interpretation of things that they've read. I had this thing in a video a little while ago and it was this girl sitting in the room being like, "Have you seen this most religious experience?" And she was like sitting there like screaming on the floor like crying BEING LIKE, "I FEEL YOU. GOD IN ME NOW. I FEEL YOU." Like you look like you're having like an actual nervous breakdown. Like this is not healthy.

[00:12:38]This God's coming through you like you need actual help. Me and Luxer went to like this haunted museum thing a little while ago and there was a man who was like clearly ill like one of the one of the presenter guys and he said that how he stopped medication and he said he went to a priest and the priest was like oh we'll pray together and then he was like hearing all these voices and he was at this thing being like if you ever feel a bit mentally unwell going through your priest I'm like you were honestly like doing this like tour now these haunted objects telling people to not take your medication and go talk to priests and it was like what are you doing of course you were hearing voices you had a mental disorder which I'm not downplaying but like you had something wrong with you? Why are we hearing voices? It wasn't God. And this priest should have been like, "I think you should probably go." And he was like, "No, can't just like what are you doing?" And then he's doing a haunted museum. Of course, you're hearing ghosts and [ __ ] like >> cuz I think they like to latch on to people who will validate the claim of God speaks to people. Sometimes you can hear him and channel the voice of God and all of that [ __ ] And it's really just people who need help and support.

[00:13:34]>> Yeah. So when I hear things like this, I'm like, "You're just unwell. Like you're just unwell." Like what are you doing? Just having conversation with you. I think it comes from desperation as well.

[00:13:42]>> It could be completely made up.

[00:13:43]>> Well, also this could be also thing of like a there is also a side of it of like grifting and then these people want to make money so they'll just say faith healed as an example or those things.

[00:13:50]They don't believe any of that [ __ ] They sit there being like oh I can cure your disability and then they like the person dies 3 weeks later cuz they stop taking their medication.

[00:13:57]>> I I I just want life. Well, guess what?

[00:14:00]I am the bread of life. [cheering] And the same response that he gave back to me is the same response that he's giving back to you. Out of >> everything we talk about how Jesus will come back and how we talk different language or whatever. Like if Jesus is actually all, you know, allotent being or God and all this kind of stuff and they created the universe, all this, you know, the vastness of space and how big it is. Why do you think you would really give a [ __ ] about two men having sex or two men doing things? I don't understand what all like, you know, LGBT people in general like I understand why you think that's the most important thing. Why would you Why would he not give a [ __ ] about wars and bombings, all this kind of [ __ ] going on? He's like, "No, actually the gays." Yes, I'm a Christian wrestling same. What?

[00:14:39]It means to struggle.

[00:14:42]My identity is in Jesus.

[00:14:45]He took away my homosexuality and nailed it to the cross. Oh, that sounds very gay. Again, how does he stop it from I'm struggling with samesex attraction?

[00:14:52]>> Well, this confuses me because at the beginning it was like, I'm struggling with samesex attraction and then it ends with God took away my homosexuality. And it's like, well, are you choosing not to act on your attraction or is it gone?

[00:15:03]>> Yeah. Is it gone?

[00:15:03]>> Because you're saying both things.

[00:15:05]>> I mean, you can't really make sense kind of make it make sense, but the sense doesn't exist.

[00:15:09]>> You can't stop being gay.

[00:15:11]>> That's the short story. So, it's like go to a straight person.

[00:15:14]>> Spoiler alert. I was hoping that next [laughter] week I really wish they could say to you like if you could if I ask this person like so if you see I don't know a naked man, you just nothing then all of a sudden because that would have been very good for me in school when I was growing up.

[00:15:28]Jesus Christ. And be like, "Thank God for that." I tried my damned hardest growing up as as a teenager to not be gay. I tried everything. I had girlfriends. Just nothing. No matter what I did, like nothing would work. The idea think that suddenly reading a book and suddenly, oh, actually, no. I tried and tried and tried and no matter what the I did, nothing would stop it. And now I'm glad that I never got brought into this kind of world. But >> but you can see how at the point where you were vulnerable, if somebody had come along and been like, >> "Exactly." if you believe them, you're going to end up like that. And it's just it's just repressing it.

[00:16:00]>> This is why we have people who come out of 50, they have married kids and suddenly 50, 60y old, they're like, "Actually, I'm gay." And then, you know, you got all that [ __ ] happening because they they've gone through stuff like this. God >> sad.

[00:16:10]>> God.

[00:16:11]>> God. God.

[00:16:12]>> God did not do this.

[00:16:14]>> Child [music] of God, salt and light, co-air with Christ. Uh-huh. Redeemed by the blood of the lamb. [music] Uh-huh.

[00:16:23]justified and sanctified.

[00:16:27]Royal priesthood.

[00:16:29]Those are my pronouns.

[00:16:30]>> Well, well, um, sis, what you've just described aren't pronouns. They were more sentences. But, [laughter] do you know what? If you want to go by that, you go by it, sis. Why not?

[00:16:39]>> Hello. I don't even remember a single one he said. Hello, co-air with Christ.

[00:16:43]>> Like, that's not LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING?

[00:16:45]>> Have you heard about co-air with Christ and what co-air with Christ got up to last week? [laughter] Have your religious belief. If you want to pretend that you have changed your sexual orientation, then you live that life, but don't be out here being like, "My pronouns are all about God and you should be too." And here are five ways.

[00:17:01]>> Well, the thing is it goes cuz normally we a lot of this exgay stuff like this person is now attacking like actual like trans people. This isn't just like anti-gay now. I'm just changed from being like gay. Now you're just being like you're joining that SORT OF STUPID MY PRONOUNS ARE GET A JOB LIKE THOSE THOSE ro nonsense stuff. How was that helpful to now you're just being an [ __ ] Like you're just taking the piss out of people who might go by they them pronouns. How is this in any way, shape, or form religious or nice or in God's name or for Jesus? Because you're just being an [ __ ] You're just completely contradicting everything you're trying to say.

[00:17:31]>> Going to need to give you like a cold beverage after this.

[00:17:33]>> Yes. I think I need and and a nice fluffy pancake.

[00:17:37]>> A nice fluffy pancake.

[00:17:39]>> Take a look around. Do you see her anywhere?

[00:17:43]>> News flash. You're not going to, >> honey. With those flicky wrists and those swishy like hips like that, you haven't you haven't taken either of [laughter] >> NOTHING WENT AWAY FROM YOU, SIS.

[00:17:56]>> I need help understanding how this sound goes with the text. So, POV, when people say exgays don't exist. I'm guessing he's the one who was giving the speech.

[00:18:05]>> Yeah, >> I'm guessing he's trying to say they do.

[00:18:07]>> They do exist.

[00:18:08]>> But what does it actually say?

[00:18:10]>> Take a look around. Do you see her anywhere?

[00:18:14]News for the lash. You're not going to >> What I will say is like he he he became not gay. They lost all of his taste cuz look at that apartment. Boring, bland, no character, no color, no anything.

[00:18:24]>> He went on the straight man Pinterest and it's a [laughter] it's a lawn chair with a TV on the floor.

[00:18:30]>> So imagine [laughter] being like, "I'm not gay. You can't see him anywhere." Oh, like oh my literally even I'm homophobic. [laughter] >> And saying what? being like you're thinking you're gonna see something but you're not gonna see them. But then this text is when people say exgays don't exist. I thought it would be like look around you can see them everywhere but it's not. It's like look around.

[00:18:52]>> An empty apartment [laughter] WITH ONE PERSON WHO'S CLEARLY a >> I never laugh or cry.

[00:18:58]>> You've got to laugh or you'll die.

[00:19:00]>> Yeah. [laughter] Or you'll just feel miserable.

[00:19:03]>> Yeah. Miserable. The thing is, and I I get for some of this comes from compassion, but when you're on the internet doing things like this, I I I lose all a lot of my sympathy for you because again, you're just influencing other people and harming people. If it was someone who came up to me who genuinely was like, I'm struggling with my sexuality. Please help me. Or someone came on to me like, I'm really uncomfortable. I'm really like even in videos, like if they said, I'm insecure, blah, blah, help, you know, I'm thinking about doing all this stuff. Fine. But when you're doing things like this, you lose all of my sense of like any any of my sympathy or anything cuz I'm like, you're just on here harming people. So, sorry. It's also so incredibly preachy and so incredibly hypocritical because it's so much about like, oh, gay people are pushing it down our throats. You see gay people going on and like showing their pride in themselves and being like, I have come on this journey and I'm really proud of who I am. Blah, this is my life. But you don't see them going on being like, look at how fantastic it is to be gay. You should come and find our Lord and Savior >> gay.

[00:19:53]>> People don't do that.

[00:19:54]>> No.

[00:19:54]>> But you've got the other side where it's like, I have chosen this lifestyle, which is clearly a choice because >> Mhm. Mhm.

[00:20:01]>> A big choice.

[00:20:03]>> Choices.

[00:20:04]>> Now come do it because it's amazing.

[00:20:05]It's not.

[00:20:06]>> It makes me realize when I say things when I see things like this, I'm so grateful that my grandparents who were very religious and I I grew up with my grandparents. People don't know I lived with them since I was like 7 years old all the way up to my adult life. They never once pushed it on me, which is quite progressive for people who, you know, they were silent generation even before boomers. We do go to church when we were very young, but when we were old enough to like sort of look after a bit more, they never once made us. They never once pushed it on to us. And I think that's very progressive of such old people. And so I'm very fortunate that I never fell into this because it would have been very easy for someone like me growing up who also is very like I'm not in any way like mass straight acting or whatever. And so I feel very fortunate that my graduates never did this to me.

[00:20:45]>> And like that's why I do feel sad when I see it. Like I hate that they're out there trying to force other people to feel [ __ ] about their own sexual orientation. But as individuals, I feel really bad for you because clearly at a really bad time in your life when you were vulnerable, somebody's come in and manipulated you. That's sad. And you didn't deserve that. But now you are harming other people.

[00:21:04]>> Hi, my name's Jess. I was openly gay for 15 years. I think being gay is a colossal waste of your life.

[00:21:09]>> Waste of your life.

[00:21:10]>> Now I follow Jesus and you should too.

[00:21:12]Let's get into it.

[00:21:13]>> That's all we're going to watch cuz this guy makes like really long videos. And there's another one.

[00:21:17]>> Oh, it's 12 minutes long. I ain't got time for that. I am not meant to be a gay man. Oh [ __ ] it's Pride Month.

[00:21:25]Hello, my name's Jess. I was openly gay for 15 years and now I follow Jesus and you should too.

[00:21:31]>> No.

[00:21:32]>> And then he spends half an hour going through like a bit of the Bible >> cuz grow up. Get a life.

[00:21:37]>> It's just the way it's it's a waste of your life. It's a waste of your time. I found Jesus. You should, too. No, you you chose a different path in your life that is probably going to turn out really bad and miserable. M you should not be pushing that on other people.

[00:21:51][snorts] Like that is rude.

[00:21:52]>> I think a lot of this comes from and I say this about like the baby brigade who always like go on like especially more towards women who say like I can't believe you don't want to have children.

[00:21:58]It's going to ruin your life. How dare you not do this because the people the if you want to offend any community on the internet say on the internet you don't want children suddenly that the children brigade come after you and they're so insane. And I think it's the whole thing about this kind of stuff is these people have made their choice and to convince themselves that they've made the right choice, they then push it on other people because then it's like, you know, you're just wrong because it's they have to delude themselves to think that you're missing out. Same way that any any sort of cult works. It's like outside of like the indoctrinated or the cult. They make out like everyone else is like weird and insane because then they delude themselves into thinking that I haven't made a bad decision. And same as this, you should too, you should too, you should too because then you know delude yourself. This is what I said about the lying ear.

[00:22:37]>> The more you say a lie to yourself, >> the more you keep saying over and over again, I think eventually you do delude stuff. You get some sort of like sort of weird lying psychosis where you suddenly start to believe what you're saying.

[00:22:45]There's a story about someone I think I talked about this guy. I'll tell there's a guy who I knew a little while ago and he was prolific. He knew he was very big in the gay circles to the stage where he would lie about everything. And we went to a club once and he said, "Oh no, don't worry. I can just get us into the front." And he made us walk to the the entrance of this club in in London.

[00:23:02]There was a queue going all around right the building. He thought he was so famous and known that he went to the front, said to the bouncers that were on the list and like the bouncer literally looked at him was like, "Who the hell are you?" It was so mortifying more so for him cuz no one knew who we were. We were just sort of standing with him and it was just like you believed your lie so much that you brought four people in front of the crowd of the queue and there was a massive queue where the door is. There's loads of people around and you went to the bouncer and said, "Let us in because we're on the list." The bouncer was just like, "Who the hell are you?"

[00:23:28]>> How embarrassing.

[00:23:30]>> This is what I mean about lying. you can say things so much that he genuinely believed to the stage where he was willing to go to the front and tell the bouncer. And I think these people do the same thing. They just Sorry, it's a really weird anecdote, but like that it's a really weird this obsession of like you must do because I'm right.

[00:23:43]>> It's this continuous like no, I am right. No, this life is better. Other people should be living this life cuz it's better. I'm going to tell them. And it's getting stuck in that loop. It's just the way he started it by going oh it's Pride Month.

[00:23:54]>> It's Pride Month.

[00:23:55]>> Let me try and convert you with readings from the Bible. It's the way it's all annotated as well. who's like, "Here's my very special Bible that made me straight." It must be exhausting.

[00:24:04]>> Exhausting. Good. I hope it is. Get that cortisol through your body. I I have no sympathy. Like you when you go this far when you're saying that you sorry no you I'm a very cutthroat person. I always have been and like I'm one of the people that like if you're in my life you know that I like you. I'm very much like if I don't like you out. Bye. Like I'm you know so you always know where you stand with me and these kind of people you've gone too far. You >> I have my limit. I'll like try with people and then when it hits a certain point and if I'm if I'm done, I'm done.

[00:24:30]So yeah, this this guy just makes so many videos. Pretty much all the ones I saw, I didn't spend that long. So I was like, "Oh, this is exhausting." Starts with it's a waste of your time. It's a waste of your life. I realized this is the right way and you should too.

[00:24:42]>> I understand maybe saying like some of the things that you know, you're not into like the party scene or the drug scene. Sure, all those things. Okay.

[00:24:48]Right. But like when you say it's a waste of your time, like you might not be into some of those things, but what when you say a waste of your time, what do you mean it's a waste? What? What is it to be gay? What do you mean it's a waste? Like it's it's not like a hobby.

[00:24:58]Do you know what I mean? What what what do you mean it's a waste of time?

[00:25:01]>> I just spent so long being gay. I could have been crocheting instead.

[00:25:04]>> I know. That's what I mean. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN. IT'S a waste of time.

[00:25:07]>> It doesn't compute with me because I'm like, you're saying it's a waste of time to just live yourself and find love, like authentic love. That's a waste of time.

[00:25:15]>> Not in my book. Like >> it I don't get weird.

[00:25:18]>> Also, that is the worst way to highlight. You're taught in literal school highlighting every single line is not highlighting. You may as well have not done it. He's literally highlighted that entire thing. Like why not just do a little note saying this is an important.

[00:25:31]>> Did you see that really cringe interview and Russell Brown went got interviewed by Pierce Morgan and Pierce Morgan was like so you because obviously Russell Brown had a very awful story about like essay stuff and he had this Bible with him and Pier I mean I don't like Pierce Morgan but I I'd watch this >> sometimes he says things and I'm like I agree with Pier.

[00:25:47]>> I know it's weird isn't it? So he's a big >> I think I I don't think I don't actually believe anything what Pierce Morgan says. I think he's very flip-floppy. I think he just say whatever he said to Russell Brown, oh you brought a Bible with you. Tell me what part of the Bible you like that changed how you felt and blah blah blah. And Russell Brown was just like up there.

[00:26:05]I can't Oh. And he literally spent like five minutes sifting through this Bible trying to find the part that changed his mind. Whatever. I couldn't find it. It was the most riveting bit of cringe I've ever watched because like Pierce like the show carried on. It didn't. There was no cuts. Just played the entire thing of him like Cle just like exposing himself as a liar. You're telling me the one part in your Bible that changed all the way you were when you sort of, you know, alcohol and drugs and the one part of the Bible that changed your view on everything you couldn't find. Even though it was there was annotations everywhere. There was like things like this. There was bits of paper sticking off and you couldn't find the one part that changed. It just exposes the grift of all of these people that they do.

[00:27:07]On a similar note as the Russell Brand thing, I saw this video of you Riley Gaines where she was about to like film on like one of those promo things.

[00:27:16]>> She was asking, >> "Can you give me the pillars?" Like, "What am I saying?" This person was literally like reeling off the things that she says are her like core beliefs.

[00:27:23]>> Wait, tell me the pillars again. So, it's pro-life.

[00:27:26]>> So, first amendment, second amendment, sanity of life, and veteran and first responders.

[00:27:31]>> Okay.

[00:27:32]>> And Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Cool. Uh the first amendment, the second amendment, uh the sanctity of life, our veterans, uh I feel very passionately about. I know what I stand for. Nobody needs to tell me.

[00:27:46]>> Yeah. I cannot believe the Riley Gay story arc of I drew fifth place with a trans woman, therefore I was I was ruined in my career. Like, what are you?

[00:27:55]And then suddenly now she's extreme far right.

[00:27:57]>> Oh yes, God would really appreciate the fact that I'm falling more into these hateful views because it's bringing me attention and most likely a lot of money. Yeah. I wonder why you're doing it. Going for the last one now.

[00:28:08]>> Hungly dongly.

[00:28:11]I knew this person years ago. We're talking like a decade ago.

[00:28:19]Something happened that I never expected.

[00:28:22]God brought my cousin into my life.

[00:28:24]God's sake, I'm with this guy.

[00:28:29]>> What in the hills of is going on?

[00:28:33]>> So this person, this this l this guy at the start, I knew him years and years and years ago from the internet years.

[00:28:39]He followed me on YouTube, was like kind of friendly, like we weren't friends, we're like onliney friends, whatever. He made content on the internet and like I just assumed he was also gay cuz he was very flamboyant and like the content he was making was very LGBT like oriented and of course all the gays on the internet knew each other when the stereotype of like gays all know each other like on the internet back in like the early like YouTube days. We all actually kind of did like because the community was so small. anyone with a bit of any kind of following or we all knew each other because and then I met him at VidCon like years later again though this is like 2014 and we were talking about things I was talking about being gay and blah blah talking about gay stuff and he was like but why do you think I'm gay and I was just like uh news to puff here like what are we talk like why did you think I was gay but you all your whole lifeended yeah I was just like your whole CONTENT WHAT WHAT YOU didn't make any it like if I was to say to you back in the day like why would you think I was gay like it was that level of the same kind of stuff and it was just What? And so I've seen him recently with cuz I've seen this actual video before recently I've seen other things of him doing this and I was like it's so weird to see someone that I used to know. It's like there was a guy called it called like God Guzzi or something like that. He was this creator from years and years and years ago who's called Smile Tone on YouTube really androgynous like makeup high heaven had a really like hot boyfriend and then he became like had like severe religious psychosis and went absolutely insane on the internet. I had him in videos before. We had one of my music videos.

[00:29:57]He was part of a music video with his boyfriend and then he was suddenly just like, "Oh, I'm hardcore religious. I'm exgay." All this kind of stuff. And I was like, "You were literally the puffiest of puffs." And now you're ex gay. I've I've known people in the past from cuz when you've been on the internet as long as I have, like I'm a veteran. I've been here since 2007. Like she's an old woman.

[00:30:14]>> She's an old woman. Like I I've known people who have also done this sort of like weird switcherini. And yeah, Smile Turn on YouTube years and years ago became this really insanely like religious like figure. Oh my gosh.

[00:30:27]Apparently, there's a woman on Tik Tok.

[00:30:29]I don't think that she ever identified as gay or anything, but apparently she's like live experiencing religious psychosis at the minute. I can't remember her handle.

[00:30:38]>> Not Gabby Hannah.

[00:30:39]>> No, no, no. But one of her videos showed up where like she used to apparently I don't know too much about it but apparently she used to be like quite open-minded and quite chill and she made content about like Pauls and stuff and then she's just suddenly gone fullon religious incredibly like not accepting very like I will not accept you if you're gay kind of vibe and people are like this woman is in front of our eyes going through religious psychosis.

[00:31:00]the woman who used to do the the pot roast things where she would like people bring people roast she'd come over and be like the pot roast stuff and she was like guillotine FOR YOU AND YOUR family and suddenly yeah she no I've seen her seen her cuz I was really shocked cuz I WAS LIKE YOU WERE SO [ __ ] CUZ I FOLLOWED HER CUZ I thought she was really cool >> so many people I've seen so many people like because the reason why it's come up is like LGBT plus creators have been reacting to some of the things she's been saying and like I used to follow her everyone's really confused also we didn't even get on to the topic that >> bought my cousin to my life show me a real meaning of true love.

[00:31:29]>> Does that mean he's married his cousin?

[00:31:30]>> Oh god. I don't know whether this is a troll or not. I couldn't tell you. But like it fits with the person I remember when I met back in the day.

[00:31:37]>> And even if we get rid of the cousin bit, it's still uncomfortable.

[00:31:40]>> Yeah. Really, really weird. Really weird. I used to think I was gay. Well, clearly you didn't because what you said to me 10 years ago, like you wouldn't be still saying this years later, would you?

[00:31:49]>> Yeah.

[00:31:50]>> Jesus Christ. Just grow up. What are weird things we know on thing is I always say about this when it say this guy is trolling. Okay. And we I've said this in videos before on the internet now, especially in 2026. People take everything to say his face value. People won't see other things or updates you do. You will always be now known as the weird incest man. Yeah.

[00:32:06]>> Like that's who you will always be known that from the internet. I don't know how like this video did go quite viral. You will always be known as the incest man.

[00:32:12]>> Yeah. And the thing is there'll be so many people that take it at face value and believe it. It's why I hate like fake pranks that if done real would actually cause a lot of harm cuz there'll be like kids and teenagers and even adults watching it who will be like, "Oh, that looks like fun. I'm going to do it with my friends."

[00:32:25]>> Not realizing that it's fake. Yeah.

[00:32:26]>> So, when I see stuff as well quite a lot on like straits not being okay is borderline. There was this guy who had a tantrum that his girlfriend was using tampons and felt like insecure and was like it's like cheating. And I was saying like this is so batshit that I feel like it's fake, but even if it's fake, this is such a shitty piece of content to put out. And this has that vibe. Like even if it's just the I used to think I was gay bit and not the cousin bit, people are going to believe that you have married your cousin.

[00:32:52]>> Yeah. The problem is cuz it is believable cuz it is something that actually happened.

[00:32:55]>> Yeah. I don't think it's legal in the UK though, is it? I'm not sure what laws in the UK. I know some states in America, you can do it, but >> Well, in some states in America, child marriage is legal.

[00:33:04]>> But no, they're going after the gays.

[00:33:06]>> Yeah, that's the problem.

[00:33:07]>> Stop it. Stop. I think I've said this before, but the little funny meme about basically Jesus looking over the entirety of like the knowable universe is a big square and above his head, it just says, "Don't wank." This is so stupid.

[00:33:18]>> On that note, that's it. You're free of the torture is over.

[00:33:21]>> And I'm just showing you spooky adverts again.

[00:33:23]>> Oh, [laughter] I'm sorry. Ah, >> it's just it's content that I've been like binding and putting together over like a long period of time.

[00:33:31]>> I think this is good for other people because I guess it gives you like a little bit of a rest to constantly speak yourself about awful things. I think there's like a thing about having a discussion. It feels less sort of like depressing than if it was just you looking at screen talking to a camera with no one kind of likeing the mood or something.

[00:33:46]>> There's two people like this. There's three people. Oh my god, another one.

[00:33:49]Like yeah, I would just be in despair.

[00:33:51]>> Have you seen the the big old [ __ ] burning the pride flag?

[00:33:54]>> No. I made a video. It's not live yet.

[00:33:56]And this is like guyish. Like I'm not part of the LGBT community. They don't represent me. It used to be about gay people. Now it's about black people, trans people. And he like tries to burn the flag and also cuz the flame retardant so they don't like burn. So he's like got like a little blowtorrch.

[00:34:10]He's trying to like blow it out. And I'm I'm I'm not joking. And again, I'm not actually doing this as a discriminant thing. He sounds like the biggest [ __ ] you've ever heard. It would be like someone who is like I just I can't even bother to finish that anecdote. He was He's so so gay. Like so gay. And he's burning the Pride flag being it doesn't represent me. And I'm like, you think Republicans want boys like YOU >> and I'll send it to you.

[00:34:38]>> Baby [laughter] whale.

[00:34:39]>> It's I will have to send you this video.

[00:34:41]It's rid I actually feel like I need to show it to you now on my phone.

[00:34:44]>> It's like um when Lawrence Fox tried to burn the pride flag because it's just funny when they don't burn. I need to show you cuz I need you to get like I need to get like your actual reaction to it.

[00:34:53]>> Okay. Yeah. I've always said if you're going to side with the right wing, you better be a cis white middle class straight man.

[00:34:59]>> Cuz if you're anything else, you're just one rung up the ladder from the person before you that you're punching down.

[00:35:04]>> That's awful, isn't it? Right. You're ready.

[00:35:06]>> Oh no. This is revenge, isn't it?

[00:35:08]>> This is It is revenge. Where is it in this stream of nonsense?

[00:35:11]>> Represent me or any of the gay community. We are tired of being linked to this cult mafia. Unfortunately, it used to be about the red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple. Now it's about the trans flag, the people of color flag. This does not represent us.

[00:35:26]>> Is it a good bit? And then he starts to burn it >> because you think it's funny to burn the flag that represents us all. Well, guess what? This could represent me anyone in this country.

[00:35:37]>> So, you know what? This is what we don't need. We need an American flag. That's the only flag that represents us. And with that being said, happy Pride month because this ain't me, baby. Goodbye.

[00:35:48]>> Imagine something like that and being like that.

[00:35:49]>> Is he trying to say that he's not gay or is he just trying to say I am gay?

[00:35:53]>> He's a normal gay.

[00:35:54]>> I'm an Oh, >> the normal gays. You know the the guy that talk the straight straight brother acting hood, whatever. Like they hate you. You're not in the normal gays.

[00:36:03]People talk about normal gays. It ain't you. They don't look at me and you and go, "We're the normal gays."

[00:36:08]>> Yeah. It doesn't matter what you say.

[00:36:09]>> Insanity. But yeah, I filmed it a little while. It was like a main character is not online yet, but I was just like I cannot believe you'd be that. There's levels of queeniness where you go, sis, come on. Like you you are ill. Like you're ill if you honestly think the Republicans are going to accept you. You would have been relentlessly bullied by those people in school. Burning the pride flag.

[00:36:30]>> I just don't think these people know who their actual allies are. You're just scared. Not necessarily these people cuz I do think there's like something else going on. like they've been manipulated in some way or they don't believe it but they think if they preach it they will eventually believe it or if they can convert other people it will count. I don't know but there are genuinely people out there who have gone against their own community and it is fully out of fe it's like oh if I hate other gay people the right-wing homophobes will like me. No, they'll just use you whilst they're doing their homophobic [ __ ] and then they'll ditch you as soon as they've achieved what they want.

[00:37:04]>> Yeah, right.

[00:37:04]>> Well, thank you for having me. Let's go film a nicer video for your [laughter] channel now and just laugh at what spooky adverts.

[00:37:11]>> Spooky adverts. Yeah, they always seem to do well. And this is part four, I think, that we're going to do. So good.

[00:37:15]Yeah.

[00:37:15]>> I'll leave a link in the description box, but go show Roly some love.

[00:37:19]>> Straight love only though, please.

[00:37:20]>> Oh yes, sorry. And God, >> please send me nothing but crosses and peaches to represent. Can't say that.

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[00:37:45]We'll see you. Well, I'll see you next time.

[00:37:47]>> Wow. Rejected much.

[00:37:49]>> We'll see you. No, we'll both see at another point in the future, just not on the next video.

[00:37:54]>> Yeah, sure.

[00:37:55]>> We'll see what happens.

[00:37:56]>> Never again. [laughter] >> We're making a collab channel. Have you not remembered?

[00:37:59]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:38:01]>> This joke's weird. Goodbye.

[00:38:03]>> [laughter]