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Peptide Q&A #42 – Starting in Peptides, Peptides for dogs, Skin Pigment Changes & Type 1 DiabetesAdded:
Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denim. Like always across the way, my buddy, my pal William T. Hos.
>> Oh, you said it differently. Somebody >> I wanted to change it a little bit.
>> People are trying to quote quote me now.
Yeah.
>> In the in the in the question. So, >> what's going on, man? Um, uh, let's see what's happening. I don't know. Busy as usual. Like, um, I'm back. We're going to Vegas this weekend. It's Memorial Day and it's going to be like like all of the cool techno DJs are there.
>> Oh, wow.
>> No interest in that.
>> No. [ __ ] boom.
>> Yeah. Thank god.
>> I know.
>> Thank god I married a woman, too, that like we're like, "That sounds like hell."
>> Yes. Yeah. No doubt. At least my girl just wants to go see country music concerts. That's cool.
>> Um, but she loves going seeing the concerts.
And I don't as much.
>> Yeah. Not as much as I used to. I always like I'll always like gravitate toward my old punk rock scene.
>> It's like it's been so long and I'll be like, "Wow, man. I just I used to love this stuff." Every Friday, Saturday punk rock show, baby.
>> I've never been big in the m like going to music shows. I don't know.
>> I don't know. Maybe not that kind of person. Like >> Yeah. Like she might has she's like seen Morgan Wallen like eight times.
>> Oh wow. He's rad. and and just just for example because she ju she just went she just went to go see him in Vegas a couple weekends ago but you know she's seen Taylor Swift several like she just keeps going to these things and I don't care she's like hey can I go like why you asking yes >> no that's we are like I'm going to go up to Vegas for the weekend walk around naked for a couple days >> take a nap >> yeah exactly >> all good >> great >> especially like at R it's like when you're young like you probably were up to no good but now it's like I'm just going to take a naps. Yeah. I mean, it's like you get so boring. It's like I love boring though.
>> I uh But yeah, we're flying up to Vegas.
Uh >> we are going to spend some time. For those that know, you know, probably know Will and I own a business or businesses together. We're going to just kind of plot the attack. We're very blessed to have some people in our lives, I think, on both sides that, you know, are pretty good in different business avenues. You know, I've been talking with Mark Moss about some ideas we discussed and vice versa. just sit down and talk about >> plans, goals. Love that stuff. It's so big.
>> A brainstorming session of like because there is so much possibility. And those of you I had somebody at Home Depot the other day ask me as one of those like what do I know you're busy but like I don't know. I don't I'm not going to get anywhere here at Home Depot. Like I want to do something more. Like what do you suggest on that I how do I start?
>> Right.
>> And I mean >> she was asking you when you were there.
Yeah.
>> Oh, wow.
>> Yeah. Um, she's one of the ladies. She works there at Home Depot, right? I was looking for some I don't know.
>> I am always like trying to find some like engineering >> feet in our warehouse to like do something different. So, I'm trying to rig up these like long curtains. Anyway, so, and you know, that's a tough It's a good It's a good question. Like, well, first things first is like you keep asking these questions, right? Like, keep being curious and keep your brain thinking. But I do think that there is >> unfortunately there is just no quick way to do it. Like I don't care who it is, you can't just you need to basically become an expert in whatever the hell the business happens to be. And usually people do this by accident, right? They don't. So it's tough, right? I did not plan to be to like make a living off of, you know, peptides. But >> if I look back, right, for the last 10 years, All I've been doing, right, is supplements, fitness, like peptide, right? And the only way that I could have potentially ever even >> um >> Yes. started a business.
>> Yeah.
>> Is because I just knew things so damn well. Yeah. Right. And I had spent so much time already, right, becoming an expert and not just like on >> what peptides do, not just like just the the economics of everything and connections and Yes. Exactly. And so there's you can't really manufacture that, right? You just got to you just have to spend the time and that's tough, right? Because it took that many years and like you don't want to make the wrong decision. Yeah.
>> But I think that rarely does a person go, "All right, >> I'm going to sit down. This is where I'm going to be.
>> This is what I'm going to want to be an expert. So I'm going to start my journey here." Like sorry it doesn't happen. I think you just got to live your life. Be curious. Have your brain open to everything. Be thinking constantly. So then when an opportunity comes, cuz like you're not if you sit around waiting for that billion dollar idea, >> yeah, >> it probably ain't coming. For most people, it never comes. Uh and and even if it does come and you've just been sitting out waiting it, you can't maximize it >> because you got no practice doing anything, right? So even if you get that billion dollar idea, I bet you screw it up.
>> Uh because you haven't tried and failed >> with your $100,000 ideas first.
>> Well, that's the point, though. Keep trying. I uh I had posted something real on this where I believe that we are all blessed with with billion-dollar ideas and not necessarily a billion but I'll just use that as as as how we say it but when you wake up at 2 in the morning and you're like wow >> oh and here's the thing almost everybody lets that that they'll go to sleep back to sleep and they'll think they'll remember the next day it's gone forever I believe that's God talking to your soul talking to your subconscious what are one wants to say uh those that get up and start writing them down um you're going to have a better shot. Secondly, I I did uh my podcast the iron perspective on this actually last podcast which was >> if you want any type of one, you got to find your purpose. Two, you got to if you want a direction start by getting in shape. If you get in shape, the discipline that it takes to you become a different person on the journey to absolutely because it's hard as hell, right? Because everybody would have them otherwise. Everybody wants them, right?
So on that journey of the discipline, you become a better person. And if you start to How did you learn to do you studied it?
>> You you watched videos before we this was even on our radar >> after the after the meetings. like, "Hey, did you like we talk about a compound >> and we ironically both had been watching some of the same guys, right? That's just super intrigued by it." But I believe success leaves clues.
>> Yes.
>> And success you just have to really follow that. So like successful people, what do they do? How did they become successful? I believe that there is a road map.
>> Here's the problem.
>> Most just won't follow it. I was supposed to read and study because like we we get questions all the time like >> it's kind of silly questions but it's like how do you think we learn this? We freaking stud hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and then implement implemented obviously.
>> Uh but I think that it's the that's there for everybody. Um, most pe it's most people don't have to start a business. You basically to a degree have to have for lack of a better way to say a ball of steel because it's a big ass risk >> and so many people are scared of the failure of that risk that they don't try.
>> Yep. Absolutely.
>> And uh that's why uh Jeremy Jackson had articulated this in a very very unique way and I loved it. I've never stopped thinking about it. I talk about the black sheep. You and I are both black sheep because >> we're in recovery and I believe some people come out the womb just different and we're headed in that direction >> and you don't know how to contain it.
But when you do and you learn how to focus, which we both have, and put it to the right places, >> damn, we can shine. That's why we hire alcoholics.
>> Absolutely. Right.
>> Because they are good. They're talented people. But Jeremy Jackson articulated it by the warrior gene. Yeah.
>> And it was very interesting. He said God gives about 10% of the race, human race, this warrior gene.
>> And the reason he does that is because those are the people that they will not let this race die. Meaning when the bear comes running at you, 90% are running this way and 10% are going, "All right, bro. Like, it's you or me, bro, but I'm living today." You know what I mean? And those are the people that like kind of get into drugs and alcohol, but they have that risk tolerance like us. They were like, "Dude, >> if it don't work, it don't work. I guess I'll figure it out." Like, "Let's jump."
>> You know what I mean?
>> And most people don't have that.
>> Yep. Agreed. I mean, if you look at like, let's say firefighters, for example, >> u the alcoholism rates amongst firefighters is like huge. And I actually would argue that it's probably not because the fire the trauma that they see on the job creates that. I think that those are the people who decide to become firefighters.
>> Yeah.
>> Those are the people who >> think it's a good idea to run into a fire.
>> Yeah. And they're they have something already wrong with them.
>> Sure.
>> But that survi that is this that is the uh the survival of the species. And then I mean another here's another one. So back in ancient times, right? So alcoholism, right, is a disease. Okay?
It's an unccurable disease like every other unccurable disease. Everything finally the hosts die off. Okay. In the history of the world, right? all all diseases that are like fatal and unccurable like alcoholism uh the host finally die off and the disease dies off forever. Okay, but not so with alcoholism, right? Because >> back in the day like the William Wallace, right, he was the alcoholic, right? And the tribe, >> right, >> did everything they could to artificially keep him alive because he was their only salvation like in people like him, right, that would just run towards >> battle and protect them all. And so even though he would do some dumb crazy stuff, the tribe would still be like, "No, it's okay. Come on back. Come on back. We won't kick you kick you out quite yet." Um, and um, so yeah, I agree. The other thing is like people, you know, I guess in alcoholism, but other things, right, we are programmed to remember pleasure way more than pain.
>> Sure.
>> Okay. So, because So, like for drugs and alcohol, people are like, "I'm not going to do that again because my detox was so bad."
>> Yeah.
>> Good luck.
you'll forget about that [ __ ] tomorrow, right? Uh but you will remember how great just doing a little bit of the belt, right? And like because like back in ancient times when we had when the when the when the men went out to go hunting, right? We to go kill a bunch of buffalo, let's say. Um it was hard and your buddies died and it was miserable, right? People got gouged and and you know, friends died and then it was you were starving to death and that sucked, right? But when you come home and you fed your wife and kids and the whole tribe, that pleasure feeling, right, outweighed everything. And >> a logical person, a logical person would go, >> "Was that worth it? Wait a minute. All of this death and misery just for this, right? Like, I don't think that's worth it. Why don't we just be berry eaters?"
>> Right? That actually does make more sense, by the way. But analytical game, we are we are just biologically programmed to enjoy thating pleasure spike. And guess what? This is why we're never content. You know what I'm saying?
We're never content. We And this is why our species survives >> because always just want more. We want that pleasure despite it being the harder thing to do. Uh >> so that's my theory. Whatever.
>> Love it. We uh I had a guy yesterday and uh you know with our channels and like Will doesn't get to see as many of the comments. I send cool ones to him though, but like I got a comment from the guy and u certain ones moved me and he was uh >> he said, "Thank you so much, man. Some of your posts have literally to a degree saved my life to the degree I needed him at that time talking about my sobriety post and stuff like that." He was a firefighter.
>> Um and he said, "I fell into alcoholism." And uh you know, um it was a very uplifting post. And the reason I bring that up is uh I don't think that we probably even sit on it. the just the gratitude of just like people that they write in. Like people like the show, people enjoy us. We never thought we'd be talking to people enjoying us, you know? That's kind of weird, but cool.
We're stoked. And like, but we have such a story where we just share it. And I, you know, my my things I say, >> tell your story. Tell your stories. Tell your story. If I didn't tell my stories about sobriety, >> it wouldn't affected that guy who now wants to pick up the torch and affect other people. So, you know, honestly to the listeners, I mean, we probably don't say it enough a little bit, but like we're grateful as hell for you guys. We Everyone starts off as you're grateful.
You love the show. You listen to him over and over and like >> it's just we we did this by two dudes that got sober and changed their lives and loved talking about this stuff. And uh I believe when you try to give back to the world, God puts his hand on kind of where we're sitting here. and uh he definitely has his hand on this podcast cuz dude we definitely ain't the smartest guys out there and uh but you enjoy it so we're glad you're here.
>> Right. Yes. You know what I mean? So, right. It's mind-blowing that.
>> Good stuff.
>> Let's start us off, my man.
>> All right. So, here we go. Question one.
How could someone like myself get started involved in peptide therapy for others, right? I have my RN license, which I'm sure means nothing, but in the setting of a clinic, um with other therapies, it could. However, in the research space, not so much. Is the research space a better place to um to be if I have the time and money to start something small? It is uh is it less limiting? I'd like to learn more um like to learn more. Is this online? I hear you speak of a conference. Enjoy your show so much. It was recommended to me uh by my hormone doc.
>> Sweet.
>> And I'm so glad that she shared it with me. I've learned so much and now just completely binge all the things peptides and impatiently wait for your next show.
If this topic isn't a good one to be aired, I completely understand. Mr. Will T. Hos. That's him imitating you saying that. My uh JD's voice since you're an avid reader. Good question.
>> Yeah. Oh, that is >> I completely understand.
>> Good question. Very interesting. I'm surprised that doesn't come up. You want me to take you?
>> Um I uh I can go I mean that's a really good question. I think that um your RN license, correct? Like that does not give you any powers to prescribe anything right now. So, so it doesn't help there, but it sure like you said gives you some clout, right? You >> you there is a barrier to your RN license, right? You've learned more than than normal learning.
>> Um, >> if your goal is to actually help people and be able to really guide them through like therap peptide therapies, right? Then like the research only space is not the space because the whole point there the research only space is you may not absolutely sell peptides and at the same time tell people how to use them because they are fundamentally for research only. Okay.
So so it is the actual I don't know I don't know if it's a legal rule but you you legally you cannot do that. Okay.
So, if you want to um if you actually want to be able to tell people how to use peptides and right and and make some money off of it, the research space isn't the spot to do it. I would probably find it first of all, I'd establish yourself as an expert and like really really know your stuff. Maybe find a doctor who's already um implementing peptides in his practice and see if you can uh join forces with him. Um but hey if your goal is to make money also you said you have some money and some time there is absolutely opportunities in the research space to and even like the easiest entry the easiest way to enter there are bigger companies that are essentially distributors and they are the ones who source and house all of the products and just like most products out there in this world you can create a website and market it which is the hardest hardest damn part um and link up with that distributor and they will send their products to your customers and white label their products like white label your products so they look like yours.
Nobody would know and nobody will know and your job is just to market >> your website but >> it's harder than you think.
>> Yeah, we uh were talking about this off camera about some other stuff and uh everybody thinks that they can sell peptides because they're so you know they're great. Everybody loves them and uh they've sold a few to their cousins and stuff, but uh it's not as easy as people think and uh just because we've met a lot of people that have crossed our paths and had questions and stuff and uh you know it is a gray market. You can't sell them directly. It's research purpose only. There's gray everywhere and laws everywhere and banking don't doesn't like peptides and banks shut down peptide companies. I could go on and on and on. So I think when people think through this and this isn't meant to deter you for whatever your objectives are but it's a lot difficult more difficult than I think most people do think can't it can be done it just has to be done properly now um will set it we were just talking about it you know uh before we started where we've been researching these things for so long I mean compounds supplements you know when we were younger you know uh even gear and things like that that we were into and just we were we read about them and read about them read about them study them and then implement and uh that stuff can only come with some time you know and uh so what I would recommend you start where everything in your headphones peptides podcast everywhere just listen listen listen uh YouTube when you're not when you're not working and even how I do it when I'm trying to like study something in particular is I have whatever I'm studied in my ears at all times even if I'm not really listening you get little glimpses and you might get a nugget and I write it down and I write down into >> that's where you you you begin. Um because it takes a long time and then there's nothing better >> than you trying them all.
>> You can't sell something that well if you don't have your firsthand knowledge of how it works. Look how I was talking about Tessa Vincentine. I hated it.
Thought it was Tes and then I I'm not even like following my own advice to give it some time. I tried it again. I love it. I think it's amazing. Right.
Um, so that type of stuff, you know, you want to learn about mitochondria, hormone health, that is huge for ladies.
Uh, women, uh, it's finally coming around. Hormone replacement. I would definitely start to dig into that. Um, but to answer your question, it's just a lot of studying. Should you get into the research side? Like we said, it's a lot harder, but, uh, there are companies that if you can find the marketing, um, they could literally just white label and send them out and, uh, nobody would know that is it wasn't you. So they're there, but the studying part and you educating them, that's the part that can only come with a lot of time on your hands.
>> Mhm.
>> So, hope that helped.
>> Yep. All right. Go ahead.
>> All right.
>> Mr. William Thas JD's voice. Since you're an avid reader, what books can you recommend on peptides? What sources have been most formative for you? Uh, PS. I just started my peptide journey about six weeks ago. found your podcast and have listened to nearly every episode, some even two or three times just because there's so much to unpack.
Very grateful for you both. Please keep it up, Rob. Good stuff.
>> All right, you're okay. To answer that one, I have read so early on there was several books that I started reading and and to be honest was like not very impressed with any of them. Um, I think that the peptide space is is to evolving and new research is coming out. These things are so new. Any book that is written is going to be old news probably by the time that you are reading it. And so I haven't really >> I haven't really spent any time actually reading books on peptides. Now what I will read so your number one most valuable thing for actual real information is to go to PubMed. All right, that's a website that will give you all of these research articles and and there's no one source just like everything on the internet, right? You better be reading 10 different sources about the same thing because there's a lot of idiots that just can I mean can write whatever the hell they want, right? And if you just believe everything that you read, there's problems. So, PubMed, I would do PubMed and you just deep dive, right? Like it's like you read one article and then >> the words you don't know in there, you research each one of those, then you read up on those on each word, right? So there is a lot um that's the best thing I can give you. Now I will say that Jay Campbell, who he had on here, right? Uh his I actually read early on I read his testosterone book, right? I think it was the definitive guide to to to testo to TRT or something like that >> way before it's time. way before it's time. And like that was very helpful.
And I know how he writes like he just put out this he's got a book literally that's this big >> this thick >> literally >> just on GLP once. So I bet there is some and no I have not read that whole thing.
Absolutely not. Uh but I bet you could probably you could actually trust a lot of stuff that Jay Campbell was going to put out. Um, there's that's a lot to say about this that I never knew that somebody would have that much to say on once, but it's got a ton of research information. So, I don't know any print books I would that's the only thing. There's probably other ones out there, so don't be mad at me for not knowing everything people, but um, PubMed is your best that's that's where I would go. Yeah, I I I've always the way I've always kind of done it, uh, regardless of what it is I'm studying, whether it be supplements, gear, peptides, whatever. I have people that I trust fasting. Um, when I started getting into fasting, I lost into a lot of different fasting stuff and I kind of deciphered who I didn't like and who I kind of obviously could tell who knew what they were talking about. Um, and then I kind of wounded it down and I just gorged myself. I'm such an OCD guy that when I'm I'm just I want to learn everything about it because I'm just, you know what I And uh that's always worked for me. So that's how I would how I do it at least is uh podcasts, a lot of YouTube, find some certain people that I like and then just take notes.
And then I would if I was you and wanted to learn about peptides, I would write them all out and then take notes on every one of them. And that's how I learn. I have to write things out.
Reading them just goes in when they're out. I have to write down notes >> and that's how I do it.
>> And there are there are conferences out there. So there's usually like there's there's uh yes just Google search that there's definitely some like peptide conferences like a peptide world conference they'll have keynote speakers you can go to there and learn a ton as we are talking that these first two questions something was kind of that just was really rat that just dawned on me is uh I mean just how amazing peptides are. They're literally like just lighting fires in everybody. Um my dad I never thought I was going to get my dad to inject an appetite. tried and tried and tried. He had back problems.
I'm like, "Bob, listen. You know what your son does for a living?" Like, you know what I mean? And finally, he broke down at Christmas and he's like, >> "What do you think he said?" That wasn't that bad. I told you it wasn't that. Now he he gets you seeing Wolverine all the time. And uh but it's awesome. And now he's always telling all his friends about peptides and stuff, but that's how it works, man. And it's so rad. And I was thinking of this.
>> I mean, no one's ever like like talked about like a pharmaceutical drug. Did you know about this? like spread like wildfire. And the reason is because they work, man. It's just uh I love seeing it. It's just amazing. Like this scallop top. You're you're stoked on that's what happened to us. I've told this story, but probably many haven't heard it. How my first interaction with peptides was from this dude right here is when I had tenonitis. And uh I had never even heard about peptides. And he's like, "Take this BPC57." Like, "What the hell is that? What?" You know, and it worked. I was like, "Holy [ __ ] Wow." you know, I fell in love, >> but that's how it works, man. So, good stuff. I'm I'm happy to see it. Good stuff.
>> All right. Um, next one. Hi, guys. I love the podcast and everything you do.
Very grateful for the info you put out.
So, my wife and I both ran and IF1 LR3 for four weeks dose of at 150 micrograms at night before bed and 20 micrograms of IGF LR3. um post-workout we got great results but right at the end of our four-week cycle we noticed our lips turn a shade darker and some common moles uh get darker. My question is have you heard of this happening or is it due to our GH levels going up? That is this is the closest thing I have found. High GH levels cause those symptoms. Just wanted to know if you think once our levels return to normal if these symptoms will fade or if there's something more serious to worry about. Um I've got mixed answers researching on my own. I was also concerned because I wanted to eventually hop on real GH and started to wonder if this is something to watch out for on GH itself. Any of your thoughts greatly appreciated and thank you once again for everything you guys do. Keep up the great work. God bless. Uh yeah, that's a that is a that is a thing.
Okay, that is the the thing that happens. Higher higher growth hormone levels can affect your like your melanin and your pigmentation in your skin. And so um I don't think I've experienced that.
>> And I've been taking HGH for a long time. I don't think I know that. But also, so those symptoms should decrease.
Yes, those should lighten up and um for what we know, yeah, those will go down.
Those will go down once you get off. But yeah, I don't know. I've never experienced that and I've never had anybody else actually experience it. And I've been taking real growth. both at the same time. That's what I I was like, if one of you >> had that we we all act different, but you and your bride, I was like, "Wow, that's weird that both of you because I've never >> and you're not taking a high dose." Like both of those dosages are are that freaking is a super low dose.
>> Um and the IGF-1 LR3 is also a low like starting dose. So I don't that is odd. I mean the other thing that makes that happen is Melanot 2.
>> I know. So those asked were you taking that?
Yeah. Are you taking that one by chance?
>> Hopefully not, but you would have known.
Like, here's the deal. Let's say you thought you were taking something, but it was actually M10 too. Did you get nauseous when you injected it >> after? Uh, did your sex drive increase?
Did the male get like spontaneous erections?
>> Um, if so, then you probably were taking Malan, too.
>> Uh, because that stuff definitely makes your makes freckles darker, makes them pop out. But when you stop, they do decrease. So that's good news. That's all I can say on that one.
>> Yeah. I mean, I I I've never really heard I've read a little bit about that it can. I've just never seen it happen.
So again, with you and your bride both happening, that's odd to me, but it is what it is, I guess. Um I I would say I would change out the mouth for the HGH anyway, dude. I think he's 50, right?
>> Did he say?
>> Uh guess it doesn't say. Uh but any any man over over 40 man I think HGH low dose is right up there at TRT. So and I like I like the actual somotropen or actual HGH better than any secret personally if I had to choose one without a doubt hands down. Um so why don't you try that? Why don't you try it for a few months? See if if you have that same problem. If not there you go.
>> Mhm.
>> Fix fix. All right.
A question from a friend. 46-year-old female, type 1 diabetes. Woo! Workout five to six days a week, in great shape, diet is on point and very clean. Looking for recommendations on the following.
Brand new to peptides. I've never taken anything. My priorities are number one, recovery along with just better performance as I age. Number two, lose 3 to five pounds. Number three, muscle growth as I age. Not constant loss. for pre-menopausal support and then down the line possibly skin and such, >> but that isn't my main goal right now.
Yeah, >> type one diabet diabetes. It's definitely a >> Yeah, it's not something you want to mess with, right? And so like your type 1 diabetes like that gets >> you know you know that question asker.
>> Yeah, you know >> it is serious. So like any of the secrets there just can unpredictably change your blood sugar levels, right?
And and frankly, we've like all of those GLP1s, right, that are FDA approved, they're definitely not FDA approved for people with type 1 diabetes because it just >> glucose is >> because the gluc Yeah, it just can maybe can fluctuate. It's not a perfect controller of your glucose levels, and that's what you really, really need.
Hopefully, you know, you said your diet's on point. Good for you.
Absolutely. It should be um because you're with type 1 diabetes, right? That makes life a lot easier. So that's tough. I still think, you know, three to five pounds, like I don't know, depending on how well you can monitor. I mean, I don't know. You could do a super low dose of rea.
Um, I don't know. It's up to you, though. I'm not going to say you should do that, but that is something that will work 100%. But I don't know. No, the security goes, let me think on that. I don't know. JD, what do you think? I would say from your goals um goals recovery just better performance you have. So, I would say BBC TV 500.
Um, better performance. You're, you know, you're you're 46 years old, you got some aches and pains for sure. I think what you can get along with with 3 to 5 pounds, AODD. Um, that's not going to increase your IGF-1. So, AODD I think would be good. Um, for three muscle growth as I age, maybe a tiny little bit of tesency tessellin. Uh, but I know I would probably steer away from that. So, I'm I'm going to leave that one alone on four uh for the premenopausal. Um, here's something you could try. And I would with your your diabetes, I would not generally for a gal that's going through uh premenopausal and that type of stuff. I would say NAD, SS31, MC, um, PET1 141 for the sex drive, and then clo for just kind of keep your mood in line. And then lastly, CL with a K because the KPV is going to be in there.
>> Um, with your diabetes issue and uh I would just do one at a time.
>> Yeah. And check your glucose like more frequently than you normally do.
>> Five pounds you need to lose. You're chilling and you work out five to six days.
>> You know, you're you're on a good spot as it is. I just wouldn't mess with that stuff. So, I'd go low go low and slow.
But the AOD, I think, is a good >> is a good one. the BPC and the TB and the AODD. Those two you can run together. I get I bet you get a lot from that.
>> Yeah. Kiss pepin 10 is like for there is some good research out there for um like hormonal regulatory effects. And so that might be a good thing as you enter menopause um to to try out. But really, yes, be wary of anything that's going to affect that blood sugar insulin sensitivity axis.
>> Sure.
>> Okay. Whatever you do, you know, just test your glucose more frequently than you normally do.
>> Keep a good eye on it so you can do something to adjust it if something's going weird.
>> True that.
>> All right.
>> Uh, okay. Next. This is me.
>> Hey guys, love the show.
>> Um, praying God continues blessing you with strength, knowledge, and love to help us brothers and sisters through this peptide way of life. 50-year-old male. Uh 235 down from 350. [ __ ] Good job.
>> Damn.
>> Total test is 1151.
>> Free test 308 >> using pellets. Wow.
>> Cool. Current protocols 5 migs of Wolverine direct to shoulder for inflammation uh from an impingement. 3 migs of GHKCU. 100 milligrams of NAD all daily.
7 and a half teptide. Three and a half redda each once a week split. I do red light therapy, cold plunge sauna three to five times a week. I recently hired a personal trainer. Set goals to get to 185 and add muscle. Starting to max out my fitness budget, but what additional peps would you add to uh to shred the fat fast the fat fast and help build muscle? Also, should I drop the seven and a half migs tipide and up the rea?
And if so, what dose? Thank you for blessing me with your answers. Man, this guy this guy's got it down.
>> Yeah. So few like that's that's a lot of stuff for a person to take, but it seems like there's a few people that can earn their way to doing a lot of things, right? And it sounds like, dude, you have earned your way and you're right to um to use these because it's working and you're doing everything else right that is necessary along with this, right?
You're not just going I'm going to use some drugs and and you know, you're doing it seems like you made a ton of progress. So proof is in the pudding.
it's working. Yeah, I would absolutely try to drop the drospetide and we can't really tell you, hey, this is how much rea you should do, right? I would slowly I mean half half milligram for half milligram, right? Decrease up rea, right? Legitimately like that. What I mean by that is so if you're at two and a half, three and a half rea and seven and a half tepide, right? Let's go in one week go seven three or four half right and then six and a half four and a half you and only you my guess is it's going to be more of like a increase of you might want to do an increase of 0.25 25 to a decrease of a 0.5 toeptide. So increase reta by 0.5. Um because I just don't I don't want you ending at 10 migs of rea. I think that's probably just too much. You will want to add some muscle.
Uh it sounds like you already are. You got a trainer, but like dude, that that is going to be the key to keeping that weight loss off and keeping keeping the weight off and continuing to lose fat.
Add that damn muscle. So, um, a secret HGH secret 100% or HGH, not you said you're 50 years old. [ __ ] I would just do I would just do regular growth.
>> Um, one to I mean two to three IUs a day every day and that will help you keep on some muscle and you just keep working hard.
>> Yeah, >> Rad. Great. I >> same HGH.
>> Um, I've been I've been digging into the red a little bit more. Um, and I think I don't think a whole lot of people need to go over four MIGs. Um, there's some other studies coming out with that that like once you go over the four, it doesn't like catapult you forward.
>> So, I we both are in agreement you want to get off the trappepide. I mean, you've done great. You seem like a very very intune dude who's very focused and that goes a long way. And the goal is not to stay on red or trappepide in any type of perpetuity. Obviously, let's start trying to take some of this stuff out and start trying to relay like rely on like you and good habits and diet and your exercise, which you're kicking butt at. And uh as you get to your goals, try to start putting some taking some of that stuff out, you know, and start to have your base, which you know, guys like Will and I, it comes easy because we've worked out our whole lives. So, that kind of stuff like it's just non-negotiable.
But make it a non-negotiable for you, too. Change your damn life. You see what you are. You're stoked. You've seen huge changes. You've tasted now what how great it feels to get better at something and now you have your goal.
It's written down here 185. You will do it. Like let's try to not like rely on on compounds. Let's like get to the basics. You know what I mean? I think you're going to do it. So, and you got a trainer. Um the only thing in regards to uh that you could tenatively add is IGF-1 after you lift. some people before you lift after. And then uh MK677 um that's going to give you some bulk, you know, it's going to as long as you have your appetite in check, which I think you're doing good. Some people get really hungry. So, if that's going to going to mess you up, throw a curveball at you, then then that will be kind of up to you. You could try it. But, uh that will give you some size >> for sure.
>> It really will. Yep.
>> It's the best thing before gear >> that will give you size.
>> It's not gear. So, try that.
>> But good job, man. You're kicking butt.
>> Kicking butt, dude. That's awesome.
>> Keep us posted, man. I want to see if you get to that. And uh, man, run that HGH. Nothing. You're 50 years old. TRT, man. Your free test is freaking high, bro. You must be like ready to run a mile every day >> or five miles. So, good stuff.
>> All right. Yep.
>> All right. Okay. My doctors have been pushing statins for my APOB problem. I decided not to take their pills and have been exploring other means of protecting my indothelial health. Would any peptides offer benefit? I've seen cardi cardigan vestigen kpvc and TB but unsure what their efficiency is particularly for those purposes. Um already on reta.
>> Okay. Interesting one.
>> Yeah. Um, so I don't I don't have I do not have any personal experience with cardiogen or vesoggen, but like uh it is so cardiogen biore. You can't go wrong with that. And I do think it it might help. It ain't going to hurt. Um, and yes, the vesten, right, targets vascular tissue, which is a good thing, and that's what we want. Um we're looking for cardior protective and um good blood flow to your to your heart right so uh I I it has like it's been used in Eastern Europe Europe and there's a whole lot of there is a lot of research in Eastern Europe so I haven't used either of those but I think you're on the right track there. uh BPC absolutely that is one we know it's like angiogenesis right that will really help the KPV is more of an inflam anti-inflammation uh but and so indirectly that can be that can help a little bit um the reetta is good it it is has some cardiorive data along with it so I I I think that that's also great I think your biggest thing dude I think you're right to kind not want to take the statins and do everything you can naturally to avoid that. Um, so what I just said, but but but for sure like no refined carbs, right? Eat no seed oils. Really clean up your diet. Like that is needs to like that's >> that's the biggest thing there.
>> Um, that's where I would start. And those other twos are a nice adjunct treatment that that will that will help. But it has to start with your diet.
>> Oh yeah, that base. I wish you would have told us what your diet was cuz that's definitely huge. But dude, huge on the statins. I'm sure by now most people know my thing. I don't think anybody's taking a statin. So good job on that. The retoa will bring it will improve the cardiovascular outcome because it's going to bring down your weight. Um so I think you're on the right path. You know, the KPV and the BPCTV, great. I think you can just cut it out and do clo and you can kind of get the benefits from all of them. And uh Will really nailed it. I think we're both in agreement, dude. Diet. Um, I'm going to tell you fasting. Does he say his age?
>> Fasting is going to be huge for you. Um, it just really will. I don't know your age, but I'm assuming you're up there.
And especially for men, it's a little bit different. Fasting for women and men is definitely a little bit different.
But for men, man, the benefits are off the freaking charts. I mean, literally, if you just slow down and just think logically, it's been around for ever.
Why? Because it freaking works. That's why. and every like it doesn't matter where you're from, fasting is done there. So that should answer a lot of it for people. Um so I would try to do that at least a few days a week and see how you feel. Um again 16 hours when you get to a 16-hour which is nothing once you start doing it. It really isn't. Especially if you're working like you just you're working. You don't think about it.
>> But 16 hours is when autophagy starts.
And autophagy is when dead cells die off and then brand new ones take their place. So if you could do a 72-hour fast every quarter and then maybe Monday, Wednesday, and Friday do like longer fasts. You know, start slow like just take out breakfast and that means no cream in your in your coffee. You know, it's just black coffee. But from 12:00 to 8, 3 days a week, eat and that's your window. The rest of the time you're fasting. And I know that sounds hard for people, but it really is not that.
Actually, it was when I started at 12:00 seemed like it was like so far away, but uh not only that, the the discipline that comes along with that. Um there's something about it to me that's just uh spiritual like taking God out of it.
Like I I personally learned years and years ago, about 10 years ago, when I started fasting, that like when I'm faced with something hard, which you are, I meet it with hard. And so what I do is I do a 72-hour fast. And uh a 72-hour fast when your mind is not in it, is a [ __ ] It just really is. But like meet hard with hard. And again, it's it's something spiritual about it, too. Um the discipline that comes from it. And uh try it. I think that that and the diet, as Will said, I think those two are going to supersede any peptide at this point.
>> Stress. Nice. All right, next one. So, I have a friend that was in a motorcycle accident about three years ago. Damaged his ankle pretty bad. Uh has had numerous surgeries and it's now been a few years since the last one that has left him a lot of scar tissue, ligament, and nerve damage. I know the nerves are more are most likely just to take time, but will waring blend help at this point with the residual scar tissue and ligament damage or has it just been too long? Uh, I know it helps tremendously with new injuries, but haven't heard uh you cover anything regarding really old injuries. Thanks for all you do. Your podcast has been a tremendous blessing and a journey uh to my journey and I'm hoping to pass some benefits on to those important in my life. Right on, dude.
So, absolutely. I think that one of the huge benefits of of peptides is their ability to kind of wake up old chronic issues uh injuries from >> uh yes from their sleep state and and they've decided to not stop healing right peptides absolutely can make a difference um TV500 for sure I would I would do I mean the Wolverine blend yes TV500 is like notorious for really helping to kickstart old chronic injuries or dormant injuries that have decided to just give up on the healing process. Um, so and I would absolutely like do the injections right in that ankle, you know, maybe a triangle around the around the main traumatic injury portion.
>> You do it your mom did like joint. Yeah.
Yeah.
>> And this way at least your ankle you can you can you can grab your own skin, right? said you can just go, you know, you could just put it right underneath the skin and subq or or intramuscular um or actually intrattendon. I've I've injected like in my tendon. It's kind of a weird feeling and I would use a brand new needle, but I've done it. I've done it. So, um GHKCU is arguably the best thing for waking up nerves and healing nerve damage. Um, so for myself, like I had a sports hernia and that's not an actual hernia, although I had surgery for the hernia. They woke me up on after the surgery and said, "Well, we didn't find a hernia, but we still like line both in sides of your stomach with metal mesh and like, all right, good."
>> Yeah, >> I guess it'll be harder when somebody stabs me in the stomach. They hopefully their knife bounces off the metal mesh, but yeah, it still hurt in the same place. So what I have is a sports hernia is essentially like one of the tendons coming up from my groin that was attached to my pelvis bone. One of them was partially torn off and that literally hurt me for 10 years. Um I couldn't sprint like there was no running as fast as I can rolling over at night in bed like I had to lift this leg up. Um, it hurt me all the time and to the point where it was like, dude, I had I I had tried so many different things like the myofascial release with the with the metal uh with the metal rod.
Like that shit's miserable. Um, but then all of a sudden, so 10 years that hurt me and um I did a round of like eight weeks of of TB500, mostly TB500 to be honest. There was um a little bit of BPC in the beginning and the end. This was early on in my journey. that coupled with a lot of um mobility like joint mobility. So in my hips especially and all of a sudden 8 weeks later I kind of woke up one day I'm like dude this is like oh there's literally no pain there and it's been gone ever since like it's most actually like really blew my damn mind. So that that was a dormant chronic injury that was had given up on healing like and I went to Beverly Hills surgeons and their best thing was to we'll just clip the nerve clip the nerve so you can't feel that right. Um but it gets a little close to the private parts and I said no thank you. So >> yeah I would do that. That's that's what I would do.
>> Yeah.
>> It's great man. I uh like him. I think everybody has a BPC or a TV story. Yeah, everybody has one a story like that. I remember I had this I think it was my left I don't even know which one it is now cuz I couldn't lift my shoulder up for ever like literally ever years years and then uh when we had got the new Wolverine in we at first were like thinking that there was they together they weren't we talked about it blah blah blah so I didn't have that much hope in it because you know we had talked about it a little bit but I'm like let me try it and uh >> three days in this shoulder and I'm not even kidding you I was like holy [ __ ] like whoa dude I have not lifted my shoulder, my arm above my shoulder in so freaking long. I was blown away by it.
Literally blown away by it. So, the answer is yes. Nerves take a long time to heal, though. I had almost had drop foot to the degree where I was they thought I was going to like lose mobility in my ankle and my foot >> and uh after my surgery, >> I it took forever for that thing to to get back. But uh I think you need to tell your friend to get moving. Do not stay like just chilling. Get moving.
walk on it, like try to run on it and just get blood flowing through that. You know, the body has a rad way to heal itself and sometimes it hurts, but move, get blood flowing. Yep.
>> That and the Wolverine is going to do you wonders, man.
>> Yeah. And kind of the worst thing a person can do if you want to heal something is like is like to do nothing.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. Like you need, for example, if it's an ankle, right, to just straight immobilize it and not let it move. It it'll heal but very slowly and heal. Not very mobile, right? It needs to be moved, right? It needs blood, right?
Blood is well blood. Like it needs blood, but it you can't we don't want you moving it so so much so fast where you get this like spike of pain, right?
We're kind of looking for dull pain, that's a good sign, right? God made us with pain for a reason. If it's like [ __ ] really sharp pain, that means stop, right? The dull pain is okay. That's good for it. It's bringing blood in there. It's going to heal. But Yeah, harsh pain. Just don't do it. Allighty, you're up.
>> I'm up.
All right, let's see here. I hope this isn't redundant. I've heard you guys talk before about combining peptides into one syringe file to pin just rather than multiple times. My question is, besides read a true tide, are there any others that you wouldn't combine? Could I combine NAD 5 amino AOD? Obviously, NAD wouldn't be every day, but on days I do, I'd rather add it if possible rather than another stick. I've read and heard some have issues with the AOD jelling.
So, is it that is it uh the noto to combine the list? Uh I've read some reconstitute with regular backwater and some with acetate. Uh and some have said half and half.
>> So much conflicting information. I'm just wondering if you could please clarify that one so I don't waste it. I love the podcast and I've learned so much and truly appreciate all your helpful information you guys give.
Thanks so much, Miranda.
>> Yep.
>> So, this one comes up. Yeah, a lot.
Okay, so Miranda, here's the thing. I just I don't have a some some I don't have definitive answers for you, but you will notice if you do this enough and you try enough things. So, I know that like HGH should be done just by itself. Okay, so should HCG. I would also do all the GLP ones just by themselves. Okay. Because I have done drawn some like HGH, right? And then draw something else and I think maybe maybe one of the GLPS and you'll know you'll see when it mixes it like just starts to turn white. If that happens, that's not those two cannot be mixed. Um I can't remember what it was with the HGH, but I would say like, hey, the HGH keep it this by itself. I know you maybe didn't ask about that, but uh the rea GLP1s, keep them by themselves. Um AODD is AODD keep it by itself and mix it with AODD water. Okay. And that is that's something that I guess we have coined, but that is a premix mix of of acidic acid and bacterial static water.
Yeah. Okay.
>> With some with like some glycerol to to help kill the sting of the acidic acid.
So, no, you do not want to mix the AODD with like 100% pure acidic acid. No, >> you should be able to. And we can, if you want, DM us, we can kind of tell you exactly where to buy this premixed correct mixture to mix your AODD with.
Now, that mixture, this AOD water should only be mixed with AODD and sloop. Like, I can't if you mix it with anything else, it will ruin the other ones. Yeah.
HGH frag. So that H frag was like basically AODD. Um >> so that means if you drew if you drew the AODD up and then now you tried to draw something else up that and now it's got the AODD water in it, it will ruin the other one. It'll make that gel up or look really weird. So no. So AOD hopefully that makes sense. Everything else to my knowledge right now um I haven't had any problems with. But if you mix if you draw one thing and then you draw the next thing and it like dramatically changes color besides drawing an orange or blue GHS to you. Uh count that as a learning lesson and maybe I've I've just injected it quickly like oh [ __ ] let's just do it fast before it like coagulates together. Um but not saying you should do that but just maybe just don't do those again.
Yeah, I think it's everybody's different. You know, we've talked about it nause even Paul's on and and he kind of shifted his answer, I think, because we we had posted something and we got attacked. I'm used to it. I don't think he is. Um and so I mean my my answer is going to be a little bit different because I've done it a lot and uh I don't think there's necessarily an actual right or a wrong. It's why don't you try it? So I have I've done the HH separate. I never mixed the rat tide and I never would mix my ECG. Those were just ones I wanted to do separate because I wanted those to make sure those ones worked. And as time went on, I'm like, ah, I'm tired and I'm in a hurry today. And I just started eventually mixing them all and I never had a problem. So, I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying I do. Um, I have mixed them together even with the AOD because it's one of my favorite compounds and I just personally haven't had a problem with it. So, Paul would would uh disagree with me, will Mike too. Um, I've done it and I don't have a problem with it. I'm not saying you should copy me or him. Just try them both maybe and see which one works for you. And if you don't think that you want to, then don't. It's that simple.
>> I know because I've tried it. So, it's really that simple. I don't think there is an actual right or wrong. If you if it bugs you, it gets a little cloudy, which it doesn't for me. I'll do it.
Doesn't bug me much.
>> Y it me.
>> Uh, I don't know. Maybe I am. Is it Hello Warriors?
>> Sure.
>> All right. Hello Warriors hot topic endometriosis.
What stat can you recommend? My OB O obgyn wants to put me on birth control for cramps and painful cycles. I'm 34, no kids, Hashimoto's, gluten-free, no seed oil, grass-fed food, semi highfat diet. I live 5 days a week and walk 5 to eight miles a day. I know endo has a lot to do with inflammation, but curious if you have anyone had anyone do peptides for this. Currently taking KPV, TA1, LL37, reetta for the Hashimoto's. Much love.
>> Yeah. So, what an interesting question.
This just came up. We just did podcast on it.
>> Did we endometriosis?
>> Hashimoto's.
>> Okay. Yes. Now, here's the deal. In the endometriosis, it's kind of a complex. I don't I'm I'm going to I'm going to kind of bow out like I am not prepared to give you an answer on that one. I will I'll ask Paul to see if he's got a specific protocol for that. Um but to take care of inflammation KBV and TA1 absolutely >> yeah she's done obviously he's done some research because those are actually right so Paul's thing I I listened to our podcast over because I wanted to kind of get his protocol because he was talking we dug deep into uh autoimmunes which we pretty much all have or a lot of us do which I do and uh his thing was thimolin and and thyus alpha one together for generally two weeks and then Uh the tricky thing with the LL37 is if you pull it in too early it can do a counteract and that's a little bit scary. Um so and it's a very very low dose. I wish I had my phone and I would tell you it's literally virtually nothing. And L37 knows if you take too much it'll be >> you get a Herkx meer reaction right Herxheimer excuse me. Uh cuz basically it is just it is pulling all the toxins out of your bloodstream and then those toxins first >> go to your body >> kind of get unleashed into your body and you you kind the herks out, right? His solution to that is add in some VIP right away to flush those immediately.
>> Um and a low dose and a short run of VIP >> to take care of that. So, it's it's it's the LL37 extremely low dose for uh 40 days and then he'll take the the VIP to kind of sweep it out of your system. So, uh I would definitely go back and listen to the podcast last week. I did personally yesterday because I wanted to to write that down. I didn't bring it. I know we were going to go through this question, but uh that's that. So, you know, and like for you >> kind of back to the basics again, you want to cut out sugar and seed oils and glucose and uh I think that's going to help you as well. So, but read that.
It'll help you with that. Hush.
>> And to answer your question, which was your endometriosis uh I can ask Paul see what he has. Okay, cool. You're up.
>> All right. I'll take this home. Hello.
Hello. Or hey, fellas. Love the show and learn so much from you guys. I have a 16-year-old dog. This is for you, baby.
Yeah.
>> Dog that has really bad hips and I heard you guys say on an episode that you would give BBC57 to your dog to help.
>> I have 10 Meg Wolverine and would it be okay to give the blend to my dog? If so, uh, what kind of dose would would you do? Thanks, Warriors. We've discussed having a episode for dogs.
>> Dogs. Yeah, >> because a lot of people have dogs and they love their dogs.
>> They love their dogs rightfully so.
>> Will has you gave your dog with TV500, right? TB500 and BPC. Yeah, I would absolutely do it.
>> I'd probably give them like a like, you know, so the your dog depending on how what size your dog is, you know, these the dosages really are all based upon weight. And so >> if I'm going to tell a grown man to take two milligrams of both of those, >> probably a dog about a half a milligram of each of them is is a good dose daily.
You can't overdo it. So that's the thing. If I if if you did if you give him 10 migs of each, >> that's okay. U it actually probably would help a lot more, too. So, this one's on your budget. Like, I'd give them as much as you possibly can. And I would inject them right in both hips daily, >> which doesn't help.
>> Watch will watch watch the recovery. And I have a friend who's doing it right now. I have another uh friend who's who's done it with their dog. And like most of this data is on K9, especially for TB500, by the way. So yeah, give it to him. GHKCU is another one, but like good luck. If I give my dog GHKCU, he would bite my ass. Um because it probably stings like like hell. Uh if my dog was hard to [ __ ] knew like he he would he'd be asleep and he could sense me just like creeping up and he'd like wake up like the [ __ ] not like getting messed up. Don't come close.
>> Yeah. So I would still It was a struggle though. I mean, once it took me like two and a half hours to pull out all these cactus barbs with a with with some needlenose pliers out of his paws >> because whether he, you know, he's got them sticking out of his face and he ran through the back bay at night chasing a rabbit just full speed through there just running through cactuses and and uh >> Jeez, those hurt.
>> Yeah, poor guy.
>> Yeah. He did not care though. Like dude, if there was something I envy about that dog, like the learning lesson is like, "God damn, I wish I had the passion for anything." The like no holds barred.
I don't care. Nothing is stopping me from my goal. Dude, we had uh we used to have a meeting on my house on Wednesday during COVID and we'd have a bunch of guys come over and uh Will would put his dog out in my backyard and uh this one time we just had the meeting about an hour and we go in the backyard and he had killed three possums and laid them right next to each other kind of was sitting there kind of like all proud and I was like, "How the hell did that happen?"
He's sitting >> but we never heard like a squeal or nothing. And he laid them all out as if like he was going, "See?"
>> And we were like, "Dude, that was crazy.
>> Where's we had possums back there?"
>> Yeah. Yeah. What the hell? I remember listening a picture of that.
>> Yeah. Like, uh, look what he was doing while we were It was only an hour.
>> Yeah.
>> I had cats inside. He would sit there and just stare at my cat.
>> Yes.
>> Or my wife had cats.
>> Yeah.
>> He would just sit there like, "Oh, boy.
I want you. I want to eat you."
>> Well, that is the show, guys. We are Make sure you join us on school. We got big things coming for that. We've been pretty busy, but it's one of the things we're getting away to kind of get things in line and talk about that a little bit. And uh >> and Friday before we bounce, we are going to record and we don't know which one yet. Uh but we'll record on Friday, drop it on Monday. So be good >> for sure. Yeah, >> good stuff. So you have heard this. What day will you hear this? Thursday. So I guess we might have some some DMs or whatnot. If you hear this prior and you have some ideas or some suggestions if we haven't done it recently. Let's do it. Cool. All right, guys. We'll catch you next time. Later.
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