Pancreatic Cancer Breakthrough, Pentagon Surveillance & Political Catfishing | TMI Ep392

Added: 2026-06-06

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[00:05:28]Uh Ted's here somewhere. Uh maybe taking a potty break, but it is Wednesday, June 2nd, 2026. I'm Manil Chan. Ted R is right there. And there's Robbie. I can hear myself though because Ted doesn't have his headphones on.

[00:05:45]>> Uh, let me see. I can maybe fix that.

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[00:05:49]>> No, cuz normally you have headphones on.

[00:05:52]Right now I can hear the speaker coming back into the microphone.

[00:05:56]>> No. All right. Let me see what I can do here.

[00:05:59]>> Yeah. Normally Ted's wearing the headphones and that's not usually a problem. But anyway, this is the TMI show for short. Ted Mill show.

[00:06:09]>> Yeah, it's back to normal that way.

[00:06:10]>> Okay. All right. All right. Thank you.

[00:06:11]Sorry about that.

[00:06:13]>> So, we are live and this is what happens when we're live. We do it live Monday through Friday at 10 a.m. Eastern time.

[00:06:18]So, please be sure to hit the like, the follow, the share, and the subscribe button, all that good stuff. So, our little show continues to grow. Um, I can't thank the boys enough for holding down the fort while I was out. and um you know having the baby, raising the baby um like a good Asian child. She's already awaiting her acceptance into Harvard >> already.

[00:06:39]>> She's already raised. I'm waiting for her to get into medical school. Um so all is well. Uh >> wait, she's not in medical school yet.

[00:06:47]What kind of loser are you?

[00:06:50]>> Exactly. She's not in there yet. Geez, it's six weeks. Um although I must say Ted with my son so he's just finishing first grade and he's quite he's a naughty boy and he's a very bright boy.

[00:07:03]Um and I think he's often bored with school and you know when kids are bored >> school is so exciting >> when when kids are bored especially the smart ones they kind of it drives them nuts like it feels like they're wasting their time being there and I've always said that and his teachers know. Um, but anyway, we got a different note home from school the other day.

[00:07:24]>> Oh, no.

[00:07:25]>> Different kind.

[00:07:28]>> I'm used to getting notes home from school. Emails, notes home. Um, my school back in the 80s, they used to literally take a note and pin it to your back with like >> what?

[00:07:39]>> Pin. Yeah. Like >> what what was to prevent you from just tearing it off?

[00:07:44]>> I don't I don't know. It was the 80s, a simpler time. They just assumed kids were good and wouldn't tear off the snow.

[00:07:50]>> Mail they used to mail them to uh your house when I was a kid and I would like try to I would rush home to intercept the mail.

[00:08:00]>> Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.

[00:08:02]>> Yeah. At my school they just it was like the honor system.

[00:08:06]>> They would they would literally pin it to the back of your shirt so you couldn't like reach it. You're like um I never had that problem. Of course, >> I was an angel at school, a helien at home. But anyway, the my son's school the other day sent him home with a different kind of note >> which said he is being recommended to be put into like the in California we called it the gate program, the gifted and talented education program.

[00:08:35]>> So their version out here um I and they said that they have been monitoring him, testing him and doing all this other stuff. first of all without my permission. But now they're asking for my consent to put him in the program starting in second grade.

[00:08:50]>> Well, you know, the next step is they'll turn they'll turn him trans her trans him trans.

[00:08:55]>> That's so I'm like is that the special program? Has he has he been selected to be transed? Like is >> he's he's been selected to be DPist >> because because he's too too much of like an alpha boy like a boy boy. No, but this is, you know, that's that's an the Asian tiger mom's dream. So, I'm I'm very pleased about that. Um, but I, you know, I don't think that's going to tamp down his his wild nature.

[00:09:31]>> Well, probably not. No, >> but the, you know, the the school work will be >> Congratulations. That's fantastic.

[00:09:38]That's great. I mean, I got to tell you, um, I know tracking, as we used to call it in the 70s, um, you know, which is this, you know, sort of sorting the kids into, uh, different, um, speeds of education, I think, is the best way to put it. Uh, what is controversial um, and but I got to tell you, it saved my life. I think for kids who are a little bit smarter, it's >> You got put into one of those, right?

[00:10:04]>> Oh, yeah. I was took but it took a while. Um, it's funny because it um it only happened to me early in uh math. In math, it happened super early. my second grade teacher uh took a huge interest in me and I ended up like leaping forward >> by leaps and bounds uh in math and I ended up you know I was doing I was in University of Dayton grad school in math like by the time I was a senior in high school but like normal tracking started in junior high school which was seventh grade and >> wait do they call it tracking because they're like they're watching you?

[00:10:41]>> No, they're No, no, no. They're calling it tracking like there's a fast track, there's an average track, and there's a slow track. Right.

[00:10:48]>> So, >> oh, >> right. So, uh, you know, the slow track in my junior high school was called, they were it was in room 105, and they it's like, oh, look, there goes Steve Profett. He's a 105.

[00:11:02]>> Um, he also pay we would pay him a quarter to eat LIKE AN ERASER. OH, >> I MEAN, I didn't pay because I like I needed my money too much, but I enjoyed watching.

[00:11:14]>> Um, so >> we had it was it was more polite, I think, by the time the 80s and 90s rolled around because the kids in my area, you're either in the regular classes, the college prep classes or the AP classes, >> right?

[00:11:32]>> And that's that's high school. So, there's there's regular >> high school definitely. But I mean there yeah I mean there's a whole I mean there's a whole other school of thought that everybody should be together and that the smart kids benefit from helping the kids who are having more trouble and >> I'm drag I'm so against that like the smart kids job is not they're not teachers they're not paid to teach um they're not there to be helping anyone but themselves they should every kid should be doing the best they possibly can regardless of their abilities or their skill sets Right. It's not it's not the student's responsibility to uplift their neighbor. That's not >> it's really not. And um >> it's really not fair to that kid.

[00:12:14]>> No. I mean that's what And so yeah. So I'm going to say though as soon as I started I mean it drove I was so bored and so frustrated until I got into these advanced classes and it was like oh thank god because I would literally be like just like racing through and be done. I was done before everyone else.

[00:12:35]I'm just like twiddling my thumbs. I mean, the good news is, yeah, it's how I became a cartoonist because I was doing so so much.

[00:12:42]>> Sorry, I became a journalist >> doodling in class, you know. But >> and somebody somebody's talking about this in the in the Rumble room. RJR RJ Ramrod >> says, "I found a subreddit recently called uh Rashgate Research and I never would have guessed it was for gifted and talented because the way these people talk about it, it sounds like MK Ultra or Montalk project shit."

[00:13:10]>> That's really >> I often wonder what my life would look like if I had had the chance to go to school.

[00:13:18]like how would it have changed me?

[00:13:22]>> You'd you'd be just equally as smart as you are now, but you'd be a little bit more pompous because then you'd have um some sort of fancy degree behind your name or some some three letters behind your name or in front.

[00:13:36]>> You'd be more obedient.

[00:13:39]>> Yes, >> you'd be Yeah, you'd be more obedient.

[00:13:42]You'd be more of a conformist for sure >> because I mean that's a those are those are you know when did you leave school?

[00:13:49]How old were you? 10 11 >> yeah around 10.

[00:13:52]>> Okay. So >> I never went to high school.

[00:13:54]>> That's six or seven very formative years of uh you know of your childhood of and you know having any kind of independent thought beaten out of you literally in some cases. Um it's like it just has a profound effect. you end up learning to choose your battles. You're not as antagonistic. You're not as honest. Um so in in some ways I think you'd be a less interesting person.

[00:14:22]>> Yeah.

[00:14:22]>> Um uh for sure.

[00:14:24]>> I mean look, you would I don't think you'd be particularly more knowledgeable because you're very knowledgeable.

[00:14:29]>> That's what I that's what I'm saying. I think you're more knowledgeable. The fact that you you didn't go to grad school and all this [ __ ] second grade education was one of the best was one of the best educated people I've ever met.

[00:14:40]I mean, you know, very he read like ferociously like you do.

[00:14:44]>> Robbie is one of the most well-versed, well- readad people I've ever met.

[00:14:48]>> Me, too. Me, too. Yeah.

[00:14:49]>> So, >> and that includes people who I know who've gone to Harvard Law School.

[00:14:53]>> Me, too. Like, and and so you think I'd be less opinionated or at least more afraid to say what I think if >> Yeah.

[00:15:01]>> Yeah.

[00:15:01]>> Yeah.

[00:15:02]>> That would be the main thing.

[00:15:03]>> Fall in line more.

[00:15:04]>> Yeah. Your accent might be a little bit more >> they would tamp it down. Yeah. You'd still >> They would Bill Clinton it to you.

[00:15:13]>> Yes. Yeah.

[00:15:15]>> You would say it with you would you would speak with your accent but a little more with a little more swagger like Bill Clinton. It's that's southern polish on Bill spit polish. I don't know if it would if it would I have no idea about this about you, but if it would make you feel a little more I don't know like you belong or whatever. Maybe not. But I mean look, school has a very >> I don't belong anywhere.

[00:15:41]>> Junior high school and >> yeah, junior high school.

[00:15:44]>> That's a big part of my problem is that I don't fit anywhere. Like I >> school and high school only reminded me that I didn't fit anywhere. It didn't make me feel like I belong to anything.

[00:15:53]But I'll tell you, the the the pomposity with with your level of natural intelligence, the pomposity in you would be through the roof if you had >> if you had like multiple degrees behind you.

[00:16:06]>> And you'd also be pretty you would have been probably very annoyed, have been disgusted because most of your teachers would have been less intelligent than you. Yeah. And so >> for sure.

[00:16:15]>> Yeah. Uh John D. Cockfeller says, "You get to make people call you doctor when they annoy you, Robbie." Like I do.

[00:16:24]>> You don't annoy me, John. But you can call me doctor anytime you want to.

[00:16:30]>> John D says he's a a PhD. So yeah, there's that.

[00:16:33]>> Oh, so he's the doctor, not me.

[00:16:35]>> I'm not saying every every every PhD. I know plenty of PhDs and plenty of MDs and and plenty of JDs. And it's it's it's a 5050. It could go either way whether I find them intelligent or not. Like >> Yeah, it depends. Just like anyone.

[00:16:54]>> It just depends.

[00:16:55]>> I don't I look education and intelligence are not the same thing.

[00:17:00]They're not even related, >> honestly.

[00:17:02]>> Totally. So, is that why, and and I mean this sincerely, is that why so many just really educated people that the two of y'all are so afraid of taking a stand is just because they don't want to be >> I'm not well educated.

[00:17:18]>> Sure you are.

[00:17:19]>> Do you think I'm afraid of taking a stand? Okay.

[00:17:21]>> No, I'm saying I mean, the two of y'all are the exception. Most people though know who are el who are educated who got the degrees you know who know all the knowledge people >> it's very group think >> why are they afraid to take yeah why are they afraid to take isn't the entire >> first of all I don't think I think >> isn't the point of college is to make you think and challenge uh and challenge what you're taught >> it's supposed to be >> the you're assuming that people are afraid to think out of the box I think a lot of people are perfectly content living inside the box. Um most pe I think a lot of people they you know life is complicated and they like to just be told tell me what to do tell me what to think then that's you know sort of like okay I'll give you an example you and I Robbie are both kind of like lazy saratorally Manila you are too um we we all kind of like it's one of the things we get up in the morning we don't spend a lot of time thinking about what we're going to wear okay on the show okay be and so the point is that um those people don't spend a a lot of time thinking about, you know, what political party they're going to vote for or or who or or what things mean or or, you know, what matters. Those that's like that stuff's complicated and hard and it's like rather than think about it, they'd rather think about other things like and I'm not saying they're necessarily wrong, but I think thinking outside of the box is an unusual trait whether you're educated or not educated. Um but I do think if you are there is a tendency when you're dealing in a hierarchical system like it like education to try to please the master, the teacher, the principal and so on. I remember in I took you know I mean I was already a syndicated political cartoonist when I went back to college the second time right so I was already like one of the objectively uh one of the two syndicate pe people signed for syndication in the United States by my company of which there were five. Okay.

[00:19:24]So I was a success by definition. I was in the New York Times while I was in school. And so I I took some art classes and um the the te the teacher was telling me like, "Oh, you know, like that's not how you draw a line." And I'm like, "It's art. You can draw a line any way you want." And she was like, "No, no, no. There's a certain way to draw a line." Now, you we all know that's [ __ ] There's no way to draw. It's art. There are no rules. It's art.

[00:19:54]That's the great thing about art is that there's no rules. Um but and the people who've broken the rules are the are people who've become successful artists.

[00:20:02]But the point is that people most people are like okay all right and people come out of art school who were talented more talented than I was and they come out and they can't make a living because they have nothing to say because all of the cool and all of the non-conformity has been like beaten out of them by four years of art school.

[00:20:22]I think that there that's what you're alluding to, Robbie, but I think also a lot of people are perfectly okay with that.

[00:20:29]>> On art school, remember had a certain um a certain gentleman from Austria, had he gone the route of art school, he would not have been able to achieve what he achieved.

[00:20:41]>> We would have all been much better off had he been admitted to the Vienna Art Institute. No question about it.

[00:20:48]>> Just saying. I did a cartoon years ago about like, you know, like instead of let's go back in time and kill baby Hitler as a baby. Instead, it's like time travelers who go back in time and they decide to get him admitted to Vienna Art Institute so that he doesn't and it's like the real revenge is for it's like how will we avenge the Holocaust in in advance? It's like easy.

[00:21:08]He's going to be an artist. He's going to be miserable and poor the rest of his life.

[00:21:14]I I guess the concern that I have and I'll go away because I know I'm hijacking the show. I mean, the entire point of college, especially university, is for the best and the brightest to be able to go and to eventually become leaders.

[00:21:26]Well, if all you are is a sheep, how could you possibly lead? And then how can you have a have a system of self-governance if all you do is just is just bend the knee and kiss the ass of the professor?

[00:21:39]If there's no contrarian thought, >> then how can then how can you possibly rule yourself?

[00:21:45]>> No, that's institutional education today. And that's why I mean I >> that's the point. That's the way it's >> my son's permission slip to to join and but just because I know my son and he's my son. Um, just like with me, I don't know if they thought they were going to they were going to school the independent spirit out of me and, you know, teach me to walk to march to their drum. I don't think that's going to happen with my son. He's my kid is my kid and he's going to do his own damn thing at his own damn time, the way he damn well sees fit. Um, so I'm not too particularly concerned that they're going to make him conform. They're not going to make it. That kid, it's I could see it in that kid. He's a He's got a rebellious streak and he gets it from his mama. It ain't going to change. Um, so he's going to be one of those rogue like smart kids that's like, "Fuck you guys. I'm going over there."

[00:22:45]And I'm good with that. I was that way in that that gate program cuz it was like a bunch of nerd kids. Um, and they all liked I wanted to fit in with them because I had interesting conversations with them like in high school. But I was also a cheerleader. I was like a thespian. I was a varsity softball player. So I >> You were a lesbian.

[00:23:04]>> That's a thespian.

[00:23:06]>> Oh, >> but close enough.

[00:23:08]>> Close pretty much.

[00:23:09]>> Yeah, >> pretty much.

[00:23:11]>> What is that?

[00:23:12]>> In drama. Drama.

[00:23:13]>> I was I was an actor. Drama. The the kids in in drama are are called >> They do they do plays and musicals.

[00:23:19]>> They did plays and stuff. So I did all of those things. So, I didn't totally fit in with like the nerd kids in the gate program. And then I didn't totally fit in with like what they called the Asian invasion. There was a handful of Asian kids. They called themselves that at my high school.

[00:23:32]>> That's awesome.

[00:23:33]>> And they were like, they all play tennis.

[00:23:35]>> 36 minutes left. We have not a single story yet.

[00:23:39]>> That's okay. Let me just answer Let me just answer Adrian's question real quick. I'll go away. No, Adrian. I left home when I was 10 cuz my dad was an abusive alcoholic and so I was homeless till I was around 17.

[00:23:53]So that's what happened.

[00:23:54]>> But Robbiey's all self-educated like literally. Yeah, I guess you could say homeschooled. Robbie, >> I I would Yeah, I would say he's kind of Well, homeschooled by himself. He's self-educated. Look, >> honestly, um I'm self-educated as a journalist. I'm self-educated as a cartoonist. I'm I'm uh you know I took a couple of art classes but I didn't go to art school.

[00:24:16]>> Um and I think um and it's funny I mean it's one of the things I love about cartooning is that anybody with paper and pen can do it.

[00:24:25]>> You don't need it's very populist. I mean really you could do it in prison.

[00:24:30]>> I don't >> That's true. That's true. Um you can write books like the uni bomber >> from prison.

[00:24:37]>> Yeah. Well he's he was a great writer.

[00:24:40]>> Yeah. Let's Let's get to the stories.

[00:24:42]We'll blow through. I don't I don't know if I have too many comments on the next one.

[00:24:44]>> All right. Here we go. Here's your >> All right. So, this one we talked a lot about viruses over the past five years, Ted. Like, everybody's a [ __ ] viologist now and and online PhD.

[00:25:00]>> Who isn't?

[00:25:01]>> So, so this one um is about I guess what we can call a good virus. So, for decades, pancreatic cancer has been one of of medicine's most stubborn enemies.

[00:25:13]It often grows quietly. Symptoms tend to appear late. By the time many patients receive a diagnosis, the disease has already spread. That's exactly what happened to um if anybody remembers from RT Bart Chilton. Um he that's what Bart died from was pancreatic cancer. And he was like this fit, healthy, you know, Not quite not even quite 60 years old.

[00:25:39]He was like 59 at the time, I think. Um >> Oh, I don't like to hear that as a 62.

[00:25:43]>> I know. Very he was quite young and he was an avid jogger and ate well. Um Oh gosh. Well, he was the trade commissioner. He was a US trade commissioner. Um super brainiac.

[00:25:56]>> Yeah, Bart was a brainiac. One of these smart really smart guys and took great care of himself. and he came down with pancreatic cancer one day and just disappeared off the show and it was downhill very quickly. Um, so we saw this happen cuz you know Bart was a friend and a colleague but that's what happened to him. The disease had already spread. He got the diagnosis and it was it just spread. So despite advances in surgery, uh, chemotherapy and amunotherapy, pancreatic cancer remains one of the deadliest forms of cancer with survival rates that have historically lagged far behind other cancers. Now researchers may have found an unexpected new ally in the fight, a virus. In an early stage clinical trial, scientists tested a cancer killing virus designed key word, it's designed to infect and destroy pancreatic tumor cells. The treatment is part of a growing field known as enkolytic vyrotherapy which uses viruses to target cancer while sparing most healthy tissue. The results are preliminary but have generated excitement through the cancer research community. According to the study, tumors in three patients, but it's only three, uh, stopped growing and stopped spreading after treatment of with that virus. While the trial was primarily designed to evaluate safety rather than effectiveness, so not the efficacy. This is just to see if it's safe. Uh, researchers say the findings offer an encouraging glimpse into what could become a powerful new weapon against one of the most challenging cancers. The concept sounds almost like science fiction. Researchers essentially reprogram a virus to do what viruses do best, invade cells. Instead of causing disease, though, the virus is directed toward cancer cells. Once inside, it can destroy the tumor directly while also alerting the immune system to the cancer's presence. That's important because pancreatic tumors have previously notoriously been good at hiding from the body's natural defenses.

[00:28:06]Many promising immunotherapy treatments that work against other cancers have struggled against pancreatic cancer because those tumors create a protective environment that shields them from an immune attack. The hope is that virus can uh that a virus can help break through those defenses. So, this special designer virus, I guess, uh, what's particularly encouraging is that this isn't the only promising development emerging from pancreatic cancer research. Scientists also are exploring personalized mRNA vaccines designed to >> We knew that was going to We knew that was going to happen because the mRNA vaccines were sitting around unused for 20 years precoid. Yeah. And then >> Dr. Malone like >> put put that out there like you know >> so I would say closer to 30 side effect of co >> so scientists are now exploring how to use that m mRNA technology uh to design you know these vaccines to design to train the immune system to recognize individual tumors.

[00:29:16]New targeted drugs are showing encouraging results in clinical trials.

[00:29:20]Researchers are getting a deeper understanding of how pancreatic cancer grows, spreads, and how it resists treatment. For patients and families affected by the disease, that growing list of breakthroughs really matter.

[00:29:32]Obviously, no one is claiming that a cure is around the corner. Just want to put that out there. Um but the virus therapy remains in the early stages of testing and much larger studies will need to be done before doctors know uh whether it can improve survival rates or actually become part of standard treatment. So anyway, this is an optimistic um scientific discovery, Ted like like I mean I mean we're doing like designer this is what I thought was like crazy was we had enough smart people with those those threeletter uh three letters after their names, right? these PhDs of whatever all the eggheheads in in lab coats, right? Making designer babies when you're like, shouldn't you care less about making like blonde hair, blue-eyed babies and like trying to figure out, couldn't you apply that limited, although beautiful brain power that you have?

[00:30:28]Apply it towards something like cancer.

[00:30:33]>> Well, it's it's cool. Um, we should move on because we have more to do. But I got to say this re this is kind of a a sequel to something that I know a little bit about. My um former attorney um Paul Levenson um he was my um attorney back about 25 years ago and uh brilliant guy.

[00:30:52]We were friends as well as having a client um relationship. Long story short, he's at his desk one day, half his face just collapses. Turns out he's got brain cancer. Um he gets um he basically is told you have stage four.

[00:31:09]It's metastasized all over the place. Um you're going to die. You have about three months to live. He did what he always did best which was dug rolled up his sleeves and just like I'm going to research my situation. And um and he found this clinical trial going on at Duke University. Um, and what they did there was they injected live polio virus into the brain tumor and then the your body recognizes that you have an invasive um, you know, terrible virus inside your your body. It attacks it.

[00:31:47]So, it goes after the vi the polio virus and in so doing destroys the tumor.

[00:31:54]Incidentally, >> incidentally, he goes in he uh the uh the tumor uh his tumor when he went into remission. I mean, basically, he was cured. Um the this this clinical trial had a 100% success rate. Um as far as I know, they still they've they've continued along this path over over the years. Unfortunately for Paul, um they said, "Oh, you're you know, you're you're good. You can go back to work.

[00:32:22]your tumors like >> gone or going away and um he decided to go to the cat skills to do some fishing or the Poconos. Um and he unfortunately stuck himself with a uh with a fish hook and because of the chemo and all that stuff, his immune system had basically vanished. And when he >> and it and it spread the infection spread like wildfire and he was dead >> sepsis >> couple days he was gone. um if he just if he had just sat on his on his uh couch >> and touched nothing sharper than the edge than the corner of a remote control, he would have been perfectly fine. He'd be alive now with his and his with his beautiful family. But um so the point is that this is reminiscent of that in that it points your immune system to where the tumor is and then that's that's cool >> cuz like Yeah. It's like it's like if cops were in route to, I don't know, a a car with a blown out ti tire on I95 and in route to that car they see, you know, a flipped over car in the embankment, then they >> That's a terrible analogy, but yeah.

[00:33:37]Okay.

[00:33:39]It's like >> that's that's the point, right? It's like hilarious. The cancer. The cancer is the car that rolled over into the embankment, but the cops are in route to to the blown out tire.

[00:33:50]>> Okay. Yeah.

[00:33:53]The blown out tire. Uhhuh. Sure.

[00:33:56]>> All right. Next story.

[00:33:57]>> Okay. Yeah. Pregnancy brain lips. Okay.

[00:34:00]Uh here we go.

[00:34:08]And okay. For years, privacy advocates warned that smartphone apps were collecting too much info about us. Most people assumed the worst case scenario was targeted ads. But actually, it could get a lot worse. According to testimony provided to Congress, military officials are confirming that adversaries are using commercially available location data to track American service members, including most importantly, personnel deployed in combat zones. And the alarming part, nobody needed to hack the Pentagon. The concern the concern centers on the massive ad tech industry that quietly collects location information from everyday apps like weather apps, games, shopping, fitness tracker, social media. Much of that data eventually finds its way into the hands of data brokers where it can be bought, sold, analyzed, and potentially exploited. So someone with enough money and technical expertise, like a nation state, could potentially identify where soldiers and sailors live, work, train, and deploy. Researchers have long been concerned about this after demonstrating that commercially available location data could reveal sensitive military installations and troop movements. Loose lips sync ships. Loose apps sync something that rhymes with apps. Anyway, what's new? What new is that the Pentagon is now publicly acknowledging this possibility. Um, the same digital ecosystem used to sell you sneakers, vacay packages, and meal kits might be causing a national security problem.

[00:35:43]Interesting. Totally interesting.

[00:35:46]So, I don't I I guess I need to ask someone that's active duty, but why are why are soldiers allowed to carry smartphones or any phones into an active war zone?

[00:36:04]>> Well, yeah. I mean, probably they should be assigned um you know, military phones, >> right? Like why?

[00:36:14]I guess that's my first question.

[00:36:16]>> But you and I both know they do they they bring their they bring their phone you know soldiers bring their phones with them everywhere. So do cops you see cops on the street with on their phones and it's their personal phones.

[00:36:28]>> So yeah the location data obviously >> um you know it could be used for targeting obviously.

[00:36:34]>> I'm sure it has been I'm sure I'm sure the IDF uses it. you. Well, the IDF would have used it against Hasbollah, but Hezbollah was using pagers.

[00:36:44]>> A couple years ago, if y'all remember when the Yukis blew up the Russian barracks is because they zoomed in on the cell phone signals for the soldiers that were that were there. So, that's why, you know, if you're close to to the front, the Russians don't let you have your cell phones. satellite phon satellite phones were used while I was in Afghanistan and they were targeted all the time um you know for for droning by the by the United States and it got to the point where like if you were a reporter you had to be careful you had to think twice about bringing your out with you into the field because you could get droned just because they assumed that like everyone who used a phone was al Qaeda far from true >> gez >> far from true >> back to homing pigeons as you know having lived in the Middle Lots of people have thoras.

[00:37:31]>> No, no cell phones, no texting, just homing pigeons. Go back to carrier pigeons.

[00:37:39]I'm say I'm saying look with all the news of of you know like Russia has has like kamicazi dolphins or whatever they're saying >> the worst >> those damn dolphins. Look, go back to pigeons. Well, you know, I'm serious.

[00:37:56]>> You're in this You're in DC. No, in the Smithsonian, there is a a messenger pigeon. I think his name is Daisy, if I remember correct. Stuff there.

[00:38:05]>> It's from World War I >> named Daisy.

[00:38:08]>> Trans pigeon.

[00:38:09]>> I Yeah, I I don't know. I could I could be wrong on the name, >> but anyway, long story short, in World War I, the Liberty Division was lost in the Ardans and they were getting shelled by American forces because they were basically the army was ordered to withdraw. The message did not get to liberty division. So, they kept going forward, got encircled, and they use this carrier pigeon to uh to get extracted because the Germans are about to wipe them out.

[00:38:38]So, you're saying pigeons are unreliable? No, >> I'm saying that I'm saying that a pigeon saved thousands of American lives.

[00:38:46]>> Robbie, doesn't it freak you out as a hunter to think that like they were a that carrier pigeons darkened the skies, right? There were tens of millions, hundreds of millions of them.

[00:38:56]>> And how do we make them? Yeah. It wasn't like an obscure thing.

[00:39:00]>> Yeah. Now they're extinct.

[00:39:01]>> And they're extinct. We just shot them all to death. It's crazy.

[00:39:04]>> Yeah. No, shot them to death because women, your people, Manila, wanted their feathers for uh for hats and also cut down trees. So, we destroyed their habitat and then just wiped them out.

[00:39:14]>> Of pigeons?

[00:39:16]>> Yeah.

[00:39:16]>> Carrier pigeons. Paste. Yeah.

[00:39:19]>> Oh, is that like a specific breed? I didn't know. I just thought it was Oh, >> they look they look pretty similar to your garden variety urban pigeons.

[00:39:27]They're not the same. No, >> they're not like crazy homeless lady pigeons that you feed at in New York City and like >> you they're different.

[00:39:35]>> Oh, >> you can go see them at the Smithsonian like like you know.

[00:39:38]>> No.

[00:39:39]>> Oh, I didn't know they were >> the last one died what in 1922 or something like that.

[00:39:43]>> Yeah, they're thinking about deextincting it by using DNA cloning and bring them back like they did the direwolf.

[00:39:49]>> I like that. It's cool. They should >> I'm I'm down with that. I'm just saying get you killed >> though. Pterodactyls would be cool.

[00:39:57]Seriously life spicy.

[00:39:58]>> No, but go to the go to the Smithsonian because this little pigeon it's this pigeon saved thousands of Americans.

[00:40:06]>> I pro honest to God I've been to the Smithsonian museums like 50,000 times.

[00:40:11]Um I probably have walked right past poor old Daisy.

[00:40:16]>> That's I could be wrong.

[00:40:17]>> Stuff Daisy stuff Daisy. Is Daisy just there?

[00:40:22]>> She's there. Yeah. I mean she got she got a presidential citation and everything. Oh, I've probably seen her and I just didn't.

[00:40:29]>> Yeah, >> it blows my mind. I mean, they didn't kill all the the bison. I mean, they But they >> they damn near dead. They got close.

[00:40:38]>> Very close.

[00:40:38]>> I can't imagine killing all a specific kind of >> Just the fact that there were so even just the fact that there were so many, the fact that none just managed to survive in the woods somewhere is amazing to me.

[00:40:49]So they literally went the way of >> Eastern Cougar probably still exists in in a few places.

[00:40:55]>> Yeah. Florida Panthers.

[00:40:56]>> So they literally went the way of the dodo. Like they're just >> Yeah, >> they're gone.

[00:41:00]>> They're no more.

[00:41:02]>> It's Robbie. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's the biggest mass extinction in the modern era in the US.

[00:41:08]>> I didn't know that.

[00:41:11]>> I've learned something new. The carrier pigeon is a breed of pigeon. I just thought they were pigeons that were able to be trained. Many varieties of there are many species of pigeon. Actually, >> doves are a kind of pigeon.

[00:41:23]>> Are they? I didn't know that. I thought they were their own.

[00:41:25]>> No, they like they they >> No, they Yeah, they're cool.

[00:41:28]>> Well, you'll know about Well, you'll know what the IDF is doing now with dogs, don't you?

[00:41:33]>> No.

[00:41:33]>> Oh, now I'm scared.

[00:41:34]>> So So what they've been doing is that they're training dogs and they send them in to urban areas and they have cameras and they have and they have a a bullpup strapped to their back. So, as the dog's going through, some IDF goon is using the the dog as a drone where drones can't normally go, shooting people.

[00:41:56]>> The dog is shooting people.

[00:41:58]>> The dog has a >> The dog the dog has a has a carb being strapped to its back. And so then you have some IDF goon who then fires the gun when the dog points at a target. So the dog goes, they say whoever it is that they're going after and like and points like a hunting dog.

[00:42:15]>> How does the dog find the target? Is the dog trained to do that or is it just do they just wait till it's randomly pointed?

[00:42:21]>> Man, dogs can sniff cancer.

[00:42:23]>> Yeah, I mean that's what they do. I mean they basically they're it's a canine is what it is. So it just goes in, sniffs through, goes out and it has a camera.

[00:42:31]It has a rifle mounted to the back of the dog.

[00:42:34]>> Well, soon they'll you know the IDF will be using those Cambridge anal those Cambridge robotics dogs. Uh the the fake ones from Black Mirror. I'm not kidding.

[00:42:42]>> Well, they can't smell as good.

[00:42:44]>> That's the advantage that that that's a living breathing dog.

[00:42:48]>> And living breathing dog is cheap, too.

[00:42:50]>> Yeah.

[00:42:51]>> So, but no, I mean, that's what they're doing it. They're doing that. They've been shooting They've been shooting surgeons.

[00:42:56]>> But also, didn't the US use dolphins also to spy and Yeah.

[00:43:01]>> mount cameras on them?

[00:43:03]>> Yeah, but that's what they say the Russians were doing. No, >> with the beluga. the spy beluga >> like the >> I think that turned out to be [ __ ] But yeah, >> well during the Cold War, one of the things that we know what would happen would be that the uh the Russians would track pizza deliveries to the Pentagon, >> right? Because if you get dozen like big stacks of pizza going there in the middle of the night. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:43:27]>> Yeah. Same. Well, same thing with Congress. You know, you know something's cooking. If if you see major food deliveries going anywhere into like let's say the Rayburn building at like 11 p.m. You know something's cooking. So that's that's how reporters like me.

[00:43:43]>> You know what's the next story is cooking.

[00:43:46]>> I want a Robo Wolf, Ted.

[00:43:48]>> That's what we're Oh, I want a Robo Wolf, too. They're so cool and weird looking.

[00:43:52]>> All right, we're black. You blacked us out, Ted.

[00:43:54]>> All right.

[00:43:55]>> Oh. Oh, you know what happens with the Jaws? Because the Jaws is considered a video. Um, it like literally >> But we're back on screen now.

[00:44:05]>> Are we? No, that's that's that's for you. Not Not for them. Now we're back on screen. You can't tell the difference.

[00:44:12]>> Yeah, that's really annoying.

[00:44:13]>> I'm going away now.

[00:44:14]>> I want Robo Wolf.

[00:44:16]>> Okay. Well, that'll be on your Christmas pres uh I'll put that on the top of your Christmas present list. All right. So, >> this one is uh President Obama is back.

[00:44:26]Uh by the way, there's a guy running >> We have two stories left. Only only 15 minutes.

[00:44:30]>> There's a guy there's a guy running for >> no some uh state office somewhere in California who renamed himself Barack D.

[00:44:39]Obama Shaw, >> whatever. Anyway, uh but anyway, this this story is about Barack Obama. Um because I don't know if you guys have seen and I don't know how you would I was going to ask you to put it up, Ted, but I don't know if we are sophisticated enough on Rumble Studio.

[00:44:56]>> I think I can figure out how to do that.

[00:44:58]Just just read the story and I'll find it.

[00:45:00]>> Okay. To show the the new Obama Center, his presidential library. That's that's what this is. Um, so after years of construction, the Obama Presidential Center, they're calling it that, is nearing completion in Chicago. They're about ready to do the grand opening. Um, and if you take a look, I wish if if we had the video or pictures up right now, >> you will keep going. Keep going.

[00:45:24]>> You'll see. Uh, as comic B fans might have it, it's the It looks like the place where villains unveil their master plans, right before a giant world map lights up behind them. Uh officially the towering structure is intended to inspire civic engagement, public service, and democratic participation.

[00:45:46]Unofficially, it looks like the headquarters of an organization called the Directorate.

[00:45:52]Seriously, most presidential libraries look like libraries. This thing looks like it should have a private army and a launch sequence. At sunset, the dark monolithic tower rises from the Chicago skyline like someone asked an architect to design Mount Doom, but make it nonprofit. Supporters call the building bold, visionary, and unique.

[00:46:17]>> Yes, >> there it is. There it is.

[00:46:19]>> Let's Let's see. Let's see what's Yes, that's bold, visionary, and unique, Ted.

[00:46:26]>> That's That's true.

[00:46:30]the the scribbling the the thing that looks like I don't know like there's holes in it for people that you guys have to look this up there's like random words in there >> there it's part of the >> like like exterior >> asparagus rod >> [ __ ] random words came um so nobody though has ever accidentally mistaken a presidential library for the final boss level of a video game quite like Even the renderings seem to whisper, "Welcome, Mr. Bond." To be fair, modern architecture has become increasingly obsessed with giant geometric blocks that resemble either luxury condos or secret government facilities. The Obama Center simply leaned into the trend with admirable commitment. Uh, which by the way, Ted, there was an Asian lady was part of the team of uh of the architects who designed this, an older Asian lady named Billy Tien. Um, I'm not sure what Billy is thinking here. She was one of the lead architects. Um, I I want to support my fellow Asian lady. I'm just not a fan of this. I don't know what to call this style. I don't know. Like I don't I don't know what to call this architecture. I I had no no words. Uh so one almost expects drones to emerge from the roof. Perhaps history will be kind. Many beloved landmarks were mar were mocked when they first appeared like the Eiffel Tower. It was ridiculed. The Louv pyramid ridiculed. Uh maybe decades from now Chicagoans will treasure this building.

[00:48:11]But today, millions of Americans are looking at the photos and arriving at the exact same conclusion. This is not a presidential library. This is where the super villain keeps the weather machine.

[00:48:23]And uh I think so. I think it's a hideous building, Ted. I think I know the Obamas are trying to be like very avantgard.

[00:48:33]I don't I think >> this is supposed to the distinct multiaceted geometry is meant to evoke the figure the image of four hands coming together in solidarity.

[00:48:46]I don't see it where I'm white. I don't know. Um also the uh >> your white eyes don't work.

[00:48:54]>> My white eyes don't see it. The structural orientation mimics hands again I don't see the hands lifting a lantern of light sign symbolizing hope and community momentum. Um I did kind of figure this part um that the reason that there's very few windows is because it is a presidential library so therefore you know light is damaging to doc to to documents and so you kind of like in the way that uh an old-fashioned um university library stacks doesn't have windows for that reason. They don't want everything to age. But um yeah, it's a it's a [ __ ] butt ugly building.

[00:49:31]>> It's a really hideous building >> from what I from what I understand. Um Chicagoans for the most part, you know, they like they like Obama and so therefore they they stand up for the library. But objectively, if this were something neutral like a corporate headquarters, uh people would beat they would hate it. they would say like this is a [ __ ] I mean it makes Frank Giri on a bad day look fantastic. Um >> I like Frank Gary.

[00:49:58]>> I mean yeah I mean you know he's hit or miss but um you know it's it's it's like wow what a piece of [ __ ] No it's an ugly it's an ugly >> it's a I mean honestly it's not even fair to call it like Soviet brutalist because >> that stuff's much cooler than that. It's it's much simpler and and makes more like Soviet brutalists at least like can withstand the test of time. I don't >> I mean I don't think this thing I don't think in in 50 I mean in 50 years people will be used to it.

[00:50:28]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:50:28]>> But they're not going to they're not going to fall in love with it.

[00:50:31]>> People people have talked about oh well I've seen the online arguments about it so far. People saying everyone made fun of the pyramid in front of the Lou. Like >> Yeah. And I'm still one of them. I still think it sucks.

[00:50:45]>> Yeah, it blows that. And also the new arct triumph, the new vet alk uh in that sucks too.

[00:50:53]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's like they built this abstract much larger arct triumph in way in in a sort of outlying uh suburb Paris suburb that you can they were like it's the new arch not so new anymore. But >> nuvo arch no arch nuvo >> I visited I remember the louver before they built the the the pier la pyramid >> it's not needed the old entrance was >> I don't understand what that would be the entry was analogous to like if you've been to the hermitage in St. Petersburg. It's like that. Um, but yeah.

[00:51:26]>> Oh, I don't know. Well, so Manchild, thank you for the donation. Manchild says that building is just a representation of the Kid and Play high top fade. Oh my god, it is. It's like, remember those rappers, Kid and Play?

[00:51:39]They had the tall hair in the 80s.

[00:51:43]>> That's it.

[00:51:44]>> Oh my god, >> that is true. It also looks like it could be like the Ministry of Truth in 1984. Like room 10. Room 101.

[00:51:53]>> Where are the hands? Where are four hands?

[00:51:56]>> I don't see the four hands. There are no four hands.

[00:51:59]>> There are four sides. So >> I was gonna say I see four walls.

[00:52:05]>> Yeah. Yeah. Also, I could I anticip I anticipate um with Chicago's very um extreme temperatures um and very heavy marble exterior, I anticipate possible future falling chunks of marble >> uh 10, 20, 30, 40 years from now. Yeah, that's what the Guggenheim was supposed to have heavy red marble on the outside of it in New York City. Now, you think of it as sort of a white parking structure kind of thing. Yeah.

[00:52:31]>> Um but uh at the time it they they they started to build that and then like the marble started falling off and you know knocking people on the head that's a problem that's going to happen there because the weight is it's very very heavy and it's like the and the thing is with all of the like I said when you have a temperature range from like 10 below zero to 100 degrees every year you know you're going to have it's not it's not San Diego you're going to have you know you're going to have the things are moving back and forth right things are stretching W. Walker, thank you for the donation. Uh, PW Walker says, "Obama's library is for when Emperor Palpatine visits Chicago."

[00:53:09]>> So true. And now we have to go to do our All right. I get I like I like that. I have the Jaws. I have the Jaws. Okay.

[00:53:20]Most bad dating stories end with ghosting. This would end this lawsuit. a longtime New Jersey Democrat um operative said he spent five years dating a chick he thought might >> five months >> okay thinking that he might become his future wife. They exchanged hundreds of texts, went out on dates, discussed trips, and built what they thought was a real relationship.

[00:53:44]Then conservative influence Steven Crowder started posting secretly recording recorded videos of their conversations on the internet. According to the lawsuit, the woman was not who she said she was. The man says that Lei, a supposedly progressive Florida nurse he met on Bumble, was actually Alicia Gamble, a former QAnon activist who was working undercover to try to gather footage of political targets. Man, who you can't [ __ ] date like without having to worry about that. The resulting videos weren't exactly Watergate. eclipse were mo mostly mundane political chatter and observations about New Jersey politics, but that's almost beside the point. The method is the real story. According to Politico, multiple dudes say they were romantically pursued for months by the same chick before secretly recorded convos appeared in content produced by Crowder or other conservatives. Uh political opposition research has entered the Tinder era. The lawsuit accuses Crowder, his media company, and Gamble of fraud, privacy violations.

[00:54:49]Well, certainly that's true. And intentional emotional distress, also true. Crowder has defended undercover operations as journalism. Blow me.

[00:54:58]Whatever happens in court, one thing seems clear. When political operatives start running five month catfishing campaigns to generate content, America has finally reached the point where nobody should swipe right without requesting references. This is disgusting. Um, I would have >> low >> I'm gonna go Robbie style. I think they everyone involved should be executed.

[00:55:20]Um, it's like except for the victims.

[00:55:23]Um, it's just so disgusting. It's like, you know, to to weaponize romance and love to that extent. Um, it's like so that nobody can trust that anything that you know that I mean it's just like people have a right to their own. And by the way, I want to know if she [ __ ] this too. I got to know that.

[00:55:42]>> I mean, look, like sex spying is a thing, right? Like we every every country has employed this. I mean, recently, Eric Swallwell in California with uh >> what was her name? Fang, Fang, Fang, Maymay, something.

[00:55:57]>> Meow meow, >> whatever her name was, the Chinese spy, whatever. Like, it's it happens. I mean that's it doesn't happen to to Jane and Joe Schmoes like us. It happens to people if you're you know in the political sphere, right? If you have some kind of sphere of influence, then it's just buyer beware. It's I mean, how is it any different than like a gold digging woman going after somebody Lauren Sanchez?

[00:56:27]Um like cuz Jeff Bezos is one of the richest men on earth. Like, >> yeah, but at least she genuinely wanted to suck his penis. That's That's different, right? I mean, >> his very wealthy penis.

[00:56:38]>> She's not trying to Yeah. She's not trying to do him in. She's not like trying to find out like Jeff Bezos saying, "Aha, the guys who work in my warehouses like [ __ ] them. I got all their money."

[00:56:53]>> Oh, so you're saying like because of the the original intent. The intent is >> Yeah. The intent >> being a gold digger is not the same.

[00:57:00]It's betrayal from the very beginning, >> right?

[00:57:04]>> Yeah, I guess I guess I can see that.

[00:57:06]It's kind of >> it's really low and it's like >> it goes back to spying.

[00:57:09]>> Even a even a even even a New Jersey politician has the right to date without having to worry that like I mean honestly I think it is against it's against the law. I mean I mean I'm pretty sure New Jersey is a two-party state for consent of of of recorded conversations, right? this. You're not allowed to do a sting operation like this. You can't just record someone's someone talking and then put it on the internet. It's not it's illegal.

[00:57:38]>> You know, >> I guess the intent m Yeah, I don't know.

[00:57:40]I'm >> like, let's say let's say you let's say it was a phone call. This make it really clear, right? She calls him. She records the records the conversation. She does not get his consent. She rec she releases it. That's illegal.

[00:57:53]>> Yeah.

[00:57:54]>> Okay. It's no different. It's no different the fact that the conversation happened. IRL, right?

[00:57:59]>> It's it's it's a shitty oppo research as far as >> Yeah, it's really lonesome.

[00:58:05]>> No, everyone's done it all through throughout modern history. Every country has deployed like some sort of spy.

[00:58:12]>> Yeah. And it's and it's gross. But I mean, this is also but it's also like this is different. People who are like spying on each other for international sec for de you know national security reasons is bad enough. Here it's like for but here it's bad enough but here it's not even for anything terribly important. You're trying to catch a low-level New Jersey pop.

[00:58:34]>> That's kind of Yeah, that's that's from the third district of >> That's super lame >> [ __ ] Sakus or whatever. Like are you serious?

[00:58:41]>> I know that that's pretty lame. But anyway, I think people Tom's River deserve better. You know, >> that's where we'll leave you with with this Wednesday is if you're in politics, it's that dirty these days that you might get catfished for for oppo research just to out you. So, >> by the way, don't forget to tune in uh to the Q&A show, Drogram Q&A show coming up in 1 hour at 12:00 noon with Jamal Thomas and myself. You're going to like this one >> because I will be taking on both JT and Ted about if immigration is a biblical thing or not.

[00:59:17]>> It is. And and we're going to we're going to nail your we're going to nail your ass to the church door.

[00:59:21]>> Uh I am going to >> like you're a like you're a like you're a like 12 thesis.

[00:59:26]>> Ted, I'm going to bury you.

[00:59:28]>> I don't think so. Oh my god. I've got receipts. I've got receipts, brother.

[00:59:33]>> I'm going to out scripture your ass.

[00:59:35]>> I don't think so. For one thing, >> you can Ted, I don't know if you can >> Leviticus and Deuteronomy are on my side.

[00:59:41]>> Uh, no, actually they're not. And because here's the difference, because you're taking, first of all, scripture can never stand on its own.

[00:59:50]>> That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to cherrypick. You're trying to make cont.

[00:59:55]>> We got We got to go. So, this is the the cage match. Robbie, it's it's a tag team against Robbie Solo.

[01:00:03]>> Wednesday. Wednesday. Well, you know what it is? You know, no. Ted's been threatened to take on about the flood now for going on three weeks, and he's still too afraid to do it.

[01:00:13]>> You know, it's it's uh it's plantings.

[01:00:15]It's plantings and laundry season. What can I say?

[01:00:17]>> You're Ted, you're you are you are a frightened little comedy.

[01:00:21]>> So, you guys come back for for this this ultimate cage match at noon.

[01:00:26]>> 12:00 noon it is. YouTube and be there.

[01:00:29]Be there. Wednesday. Wednesday.

[01:00:31]>> We need Chick-fil-A for this. No. No.

[01:00:34]But we didn't have God's chicken >> reference. I can tell. Do you guys not know that? Like it's like um like it's like the monster trucks the ads like like here in New York. It's like it used to be like Friday Friday Friday monster TRUCKS RACEWAY PARK RACEWAY PARK first in New Jersey.

[01:00:52]>> No.

[01:00:53]>> I got to run these two. Go watch them duke it out at the three actually. The three of them.

[01:00:59]>> Have a good Wednesday everybody. It'll be twoonone because they got try they got to try to make it fair.

[01:01:04]>> Yeah.

[01:01:06]>> Bye, guys.

[01:01:08]>> All right.

[01:01:08]>> Bye.

[01:01:09]>> Bye, y'all.