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Ep. 48: 365 Days of BWSS. | #BecauseWeSaidSoPodAdded:
Hey guys, I'm Zama.
>> And I'm Lindsay. And welcome to Because We Said So.
>> Today is such a large episode for just so much celebration.
>> That it is, guys. That it is. It is May.
And as you guys should know, if you've been here since the inception of this podcast, that means it is one full year of because we said so.
>> Guys, Bruss has won. She said one.
>> It's Bruss's first birthday, guys.
There's so much celebration happening in the past. Sana love that for us.
Literally, thank you so much to you guys for being a part of this community.
Honestly, this podcast, this community is nothing without you amazing people who watch. Thank you for continuously watching, subscribing, commenting, engaging with us. Like more than anything else, engaging with us, cuz I feel like if you guys didn't engage with us, there wouldn't be a podcast. We'll be speaking to ourselves. Literally, every Wednesday you guys are there. So, thank you guys so much. And I think also we both can see the growth that's happened in one year, which we'll obviously get into, but it never gets like you never get used to it. It's every week I'm like, "Oh my god, like Nanda."
So, we have to celebrate this huge milestone.
>> 100%. We appreciate you guys. We love you guys so much. We're so excited to also have Brutal Fruit here with us to celebrate this huge milestone. Shout out to them. They knew exactly who to come to. So, >> timing >> because yeah, there is a celebration in our lives right now.
>> So, anyways guys, actually, let's even do a little popup.
>> Here's to Hey guys, and we're so scared to do this, but we had to do it for you.
Okay, >> your fears.
>> Yes, this is for you guys. Shout out to you guys for continuously being here.
And two, another year, another two years, another 3 years, another four years, another five years, >> another decade, >> another decade of worth. This is the first of many. One, two, one.
>> Oh, my my pop didn't pop.
to mess.
Oh my god, that was so I'm actually too old for it.
>> And nerves, but that was so necessary.
>> I love that.
>> I love a good celebration.
>> I hope you at home. Even if you pop with a little something, pop with a little fruit.
>> Exactly. Give a little cheers. Do a little something. Be in this celebratory moment with us, you guys. We want to celebrate with you guys. You guys are our booies.
>> Yes. At the end of the day, the day has got to end. Yeah.
>> Getting into pop culture rewind for the week. There is a lot going on. Honorable mention if you guys did not see if you did see cuz everyone tagged us. Love you cuz I wouldn't have seen it. Ma posted a snippet from the podcast where we were talking about how much we love the show. And I just want to say that level of fame.
>> No, we are pretty huge.
ZUMB.
>> DO THEY KNOW YOU GUYS?
>> They know.
I have to acknowledge that and just say, "Love you, Lord." Show.
>> I feel like that's so hilarious though.
And I feel like I love the fact that they only clip the part where we're saying the good things and the other stuff, the critiques, they said, "I'm not putting that part in the part where I'm praised getting praised. I'm going to let you guys know." You know what?
Period King.
>> Do you know that we frying you?
>> He doesn't know that he was getting cooked in the very same episode, but you know what? Period King, >> we love it. Yeah, we are still entertained.
>> We had to get into the Michael Jackson movies and I went to go watch it this past weekend. So now we can give a full review and have our thoughts. First things first, Michael Jackson, miss you so much. Oh, >> what a king of pop you were.
>> You are a king. Like it's not just a label. Like he literally is a king and so talented. So it was I really enjoyed the watch. At the end of the movie and I obviously were like where's the rest of >> like >> where's the rest of the movie? But I heard that there's going to be a part two. So I mean there's so much to cover and I feel like we only got to halfway. So there's so much more to cover. So I'm definitely looking forward to that. What did you think of the movie?
>> I thought the movie was good. I will say did it like super meet my expectations?
Maybe not. And I also want to say I think it also is because guys, Lansy and I had so much I lost at that cinema that day. Like we were so overstimulated.
And normally when I go to the movies or normally even when we've been to the movies, it's such a chilled experience.
We get there, we get off snacks, get a drink, you know, sit down.
>> There was too much going on at the cinemas. There were kids there. It was a Sunday night. You guys are at the movies on a Sunday night.
>> Don't you guys have school >> and stuff? So, there was a lot going on.
We couldn't We took us forever to get our snacks.
>> Someone was sitting in our seat, guys.
We even got into the movie later. I feel like already it got off to a bad start, but I still enjoyed the movie. I will say though, I think where the only place for me where it lacked was that I think they could have had better storytelling.
>> I don't feel like they told the story well like yes, we were seeing different parts and I think for us what we probably enjoyed the most was the performances of course >> and like >> Jafar, you ate that badly. But I think feel like for me they did lack when it came to storytelling.
But apparently they there's another movie another Michael Jackson movie called The American Dream. Apparently it's on YouTube and I think I'm gonna watch that because there I think they like actually take you and detail you the story even from the POV of his parents then you know when they had kids and then how the Jackson So I think for me I I was expecting rather to get more of a story of Michael Jackson whereas there I feel like they really glossed over a lot of stuff and really only highlighted like the big moments that a lot of people already know. knew for me I wanted to find out more about him. I guess >> same I wanted to leave the movie like I didn't know that or I feel like everything else was things we knew just I guess with more detail. Someone was even like it gave surviving Joe Jackson they should have named it this because there was a lot of focus on Joe Jackson and obviously yes it's significant but I'm like I wanted to know more about him as a person.
>> So maybe parts will give us that but I will watch that YouTube one. I also do feel like the performance part as much as I enjoyed it cuz obviously we enjoy his music and his discoraphy. I feel like some of the music scenes were so long where I'm like now we're going through the first verse the chorus the first verse the chorus I'm like this time could have been used for storytelling or anything more significant. So >> but shout out shout out to his near future he was like so but literally like they look so similar. Did you know that he has cousins that are his brothers as well? Kind of thing. Apparently Germaine. So, let me actually start with Randy. His younger brother Randy was with this lady. I think her name was Alejandro.
Mom.
>> Yes.
>> And then he Randy had kids with this lady, but they weren't married only for Germaine to marry her and then have kids. So, they're cousins and half brothers. That is so sick to me. Like, when I found that out, >> that's so nuts.
I was also of course >> they even like live together at some stage. I said the things that are going out in in I'm scared >> and apparently that's why Randy and the brothers are not as close anymore.
>> Fair.
>> You took my girl and had her kids and now you've created this >> weird thing.
>> It's so weird. But >> justice with your father.
>> You know what that is a king >> and at the end of the day the kids had nothing to do with it. I'm blaming the parents.
>> I'm blaming the parents. Also m shout out to Domingo for that Joe Jackson role. He ate that. I was beefing with him in that cinema said now I hate Yui.
And you're not even talking dead ass.
Like he ate so badly. He's such a good actor in general. Am I even shot?
>> That Oscar, they better be polishing it.
Give it to my my neck.
>> He's amazing. He ate that so bad.
>> It is awards season. So we're going to be talking about awards a lot right now.
First thing first, the devil product South African premiere happened not so long ago and there was a little red carpet moment and there was some looks.
Did you see anything that you liked? I did obviously queen my queen Bonang eight ate down like I'm always gonna stand that's my mother >> that's mother >> that's my mom that's my mama >> that's my mama but that's my mama >> yo that look >> oh she ate it so bad it was styled to perfection I also really liked Pam's look >> there was another influencer I think her name is Toby she wore like this plunge white dress she had a half braids half curl situation She looked so beautiful like sensational. I loved her outfit done. So I think those were my three favorites I want to say.
>> Same. And also I liked Numalanga Shi's outfits. She had like this coat that was like beaded. Oh, it looked so so so stunning with like a statement piece. So I really like that as opposed to just a blazer. She like had it bedazzled. So that was really really stunning. I felt like people tried a little bit more for this rec because we already spoke about this last week themes and stuff. Hey, we're getting there.
>> But I also do feel like maybe this is an unpop opinion, but like the influencers are stylish as hell. So when they are at events, I feel like I'm like period.
Like the girls do be coming and stepping and putting their best foot forward. So I will say like the influencers came stepping and I'm glad they're making a name for themselves to be invited to more events because they are bringing it to the Red Coppers.
>> I miss the K Naomi though.
>> Hey Naomi, come back Queen. queen.
Like you are the the red carpet queen.
>> She is.
>> Speaking of red carpets, well, the carpet is not red, but speaking of awards season, we had the Met Coller 2026 on Monday. Met Monday. And there's always a lot of discourse and things to say when it comes to the Met. If I was a celebrity and I went to the Met, I'd be so anxious. Just want to say cuz people have so much to say. But G, you guys do it for us to comment on it. So, we're going to get into the theme. So, the theme of it was costume arts and the dress code was fashion is arts. The theme explored how fashion and art are deeply connected and how the human body is the canvas. So, that's basically what they had to work with. In case you missed it, you're not understanding why someone was wearing what they were wearing basically. So, I want to get into my top looks. My favorite look, and I feel like this was everyone's favorite look, was Emma Chamberlain's look. Oh my god. First of all, her arriving so early to the carpet and setting the standard was putting people in a bad place because her fit, her >> she ate so much from the makeup to the hair, the outfit, the way she some people were saying they didn't like her glam. And for me, I like people who it's not like a typical um glam, but I like people who commit to a look from top to bottom. I feel like sometimes when, and no offense to my girl Kim Kardashian, sometimes for her, I don't feel like she commits to a look. Like sometimes she will do a nice outfit, but then you want to do like a soft glam that doesn't go with whatever theme you're trying to cuz you're just trying to be pretty. Like I feel like if you are really going to commit to a look, you need to commit to it head to toe. Like I need to be able to tell whatever story you're trying or read whatever story you're trying to tell from head to toe. And I feel like Emma ate that so bad. Her dress is even hand painted. She ate so bad.
>> She got the thing like she she really ate this. My other favorites were I'm just going to mention them as honorary mentions. I really like Blake Lovely.
Blake Lively's dress. She's also someone I usually look forward to with the Mets.
I usually like her looks. Sabrina Commenters. I also liked it. She made out a film.
>> Yes. Yes. Hers was beautiful.
>> Beautiful. I loved that. And then Chase Infinity as well. I really liked hers.
Hers was also like the paint type of >> it was inspired by a painting canvas if I can say. Beautiful. But hers was like bedazzled if I can say. And then Wisdom K. Shout out to Wisdom K. I liked his there was obviously people didn't like it. Some people liked it. I liked it cuz I realized people didn't like it and I was like I liked it. So that's why I wanted to mention it and then I wanted us to get into Beyonce, right? Because obviously the big >> I GOT TO TELL YOU THE REST OF MY LOOKS DIFFERENT.
>> I WAS GOING TO TOUCH BEYONCE and then get into the look. But we can get into your look.
>> But I need to tell you guys what my favorite looks are because my girl Ano Yi eats every single year down. Like she is art as a human being. She's so beautiful. I can't even begin to describe how stunning she looks. The everything again for her head to toe makeup, the glam, the hair, the the outfit, the dress, the everything. She ate so freaking bad. Shout out to her.
And I also really like Jan Monet. I think every single year she commits to her looks so bad. She did like this. It was kind of like a mask with technology mixed into it. She was wearing Christian Seraniano, I think. And her look was so like unique. And I think the story behind it for me, she's basically talking about how um electronic and nature kind of merged together and that's kind of the artistic vibe she was going for. It looks so beautiful and again and her she had those objects on her dress that were literally moving.
There were butterflies that were literally going in and out. It's similar to um a look that Mona wore. I think it was last year where she also had things moving on her dress. I like people who do that like people who come with proper costumes cuz I mean it's a costume garden >> at the end of the day. Yeah. I I appreciate the effort that people put in. I need to check out her food cuz usually Janelle, she slays.
>> Let's get into Beyonce's. Obviously, the big thing was that Beyonce made her grand return after not attending the Molive for 10 years and she's on the board this year. So, she was part of deciding the theme and all of that. So, one the there was a lot of discourse around her outfit. There was a lot of discourse around Blue Ivy being there.
There's a lot of discourse around her interview. There was discourse around Beyonce's presence. On my end, love her, love her, love you guys know I'm part of the beehive cult. The dress, I liked it.
Was I like, "Oh my god, it's great." No.
Was it horrible? No. It was a dress to me. I liked obviously the skeleton, human body element of it, but I obviously wasn't blown away. Right. But I feel like to me, her heart is not in it. Maybe that's just me, but it felt like she's attending for the sake of attending. I was even like, "Why did you agree to be on the board?" cuz you seem so indifferent right now considering this is technically your event if I can say. So I just feel felt like her heart wasn't in it. But shout out to her return. We'll see how it goes now that she's on the board. But >> yeah, for me I her look it's gives I feel like I've not seen her in it before, but I feel like I've seen her in it before. She's always wearing things that look like that. And I think she even was saying that she had worked with the designer. the person who designed this outfit for her has designed for Olivia has done this for her before and I could tell like I feel like I've seen this before. I'm kind of bored by it.
And I love Beyonce. I love her dad.
She's my other mother. But I feel like again since we're critiquing outfits, she's not above critique in that sense.
I feel like a lot of people liked it. I wasn't a fan. Um even Blue being there, I'm not mad at it, I guess, because also it was her mom's event like we're saying. I don't think there's anything.
And like the family situation, I I saw a lot of people being like, "Girl, we don't want to see you and your family."
But I'm like, why not, guys? At the end of the day, I feel like she's um Blue was excited to be there. Her outfit didn't give the theme, but who cares?
She's a child.
>> They had fun. She looked like she was having a good time and happy to be there. So, >> yeah. I get what you're saying, though.
I don't think her heart is in it. Um Yeah. I don't know.
>> Yeah. Even um I was looking at an interview with Lala and she just kept talking about the fact that she's happy that Blue Avy's is there. So I think that's the parents the bringing blue avi pot that I was like okay she should be there great like I love it but like now when it's interview time we want to hear from you to say considering you on the board what are your thoughts what do you think of the looks what do you think of the carpet so far how are you feeling but every answer she did was just I'm happy that blue's here I'm happy to be my parent I'm happy to live this experience through my daughter's eyes which is great I think people just wanted to hear more from her and her POV but the thing is I'm sure she was probably on a POV of that's not what I was contracted to do here. So, I'm coming HERE TO DO WHAT I WAS contracted to do and I'm leave. I think people a lot of people are like that these days in Hollywood to say like I'm not she's not there to cuz a lot of time like people are there to you know have be seen and have people be seen and I don't think she's there for that because if she was she would be she would have been coming for the past years. I don't think I think she's over it. So, she was just like I'm just doing the press because I have to do the press and like I'm here.
But she probably gave them a strict brief to say you can only ask me these two questions and then I'm getting out of it. Yeah, especially cuz she never does interviews. She's probably like, you know what, Lala and Vogue, I'll give you this little moment, but don't ask me about act three and stuff.
>> Yeah, she probably had those strict things to say. I'm not answering those questions. So, >> yeah, fair. And you know, I guess we just need to be happy that she's back.
>> Will she be at the next one, do you think?
>> I don't know. But I think what Beyonce Beyonce is like one of those superstars that even Michael was talking about it in the documentary to say like there's an air of mysterity or mysteriousness that I feel is necessary for you to be in that top superstar category that she's in. So I think that's even why she doesn't speak as much and I'm not mad at it because honestly and truly you're a superstar. You don't need to talk to us.
>> The big superstars don't talk to us.
That's fair. You're not an influencer.
You don't need people to be obsessed with you and your personality. You need them to be obsessed with your work. So, I think it's fair. She's huge.
>> She doesn't have to. Yeah. And also, if we know anything about Beyonce, she's not the type to give us details. So, she was never going to give anything about act three and all of it.
>> Yes. She's she's a professional superstar. She know she knows how to stay how she is right now. So, I'm like, period girl.
>> I would have liked to hear more about the actual myth, though. But, you know, it's it's fine. We We'll move past the shout out to Blue when she gets back to school. I'd be bragging to everyone who's do you know the medal cuz I was on the cops.
>> Show them the music. I'm sure they even saw son. You you saw me on the if you're asking me about homework and stuff the next day at school. I don't get it. I was at the medal.
>> Do you think she even goes to school though?
>> She probably is like homeschooled cuz how do you go to school's daughter?
>> In the beginning she went to school cuz I watch a few I watch a lot of the interviews and they talk about taking her to school. But maybe now that she's older they like >> homeschooling [ __ ] >> Yeah. Because you you go to school and you on tour with Beyonce. Do you get what I'm saying?
>> Yeah. the two become a normal student. I don't think you can.
>> That's true. Then lastly, the biggest it actually blew up last night.
>> Tyler and Rihanna. So, >> basically, there was a video posted of Tyler and Rihanna waiting for their cars to pick them up from the midgala. And in the video, Tyler's kind of just standing there in the corner. Rihanna's waiting for ASAP, who's having his own conversation on the side. And basically, social media was kind of like pushing that narrative of Rihanna doesn't really [ __ ] with Tyler, right? So, first of all, the video is literally just 3 seconds. So, I don't know how we got to that conclusion, but then Tyler decided to address the situation where she basically said, "I met Rihanna last year and she was busy when I met her." Um, so when I met her this time, because she seemed busy, I felt awkward and didn't want to approach her. That's basically what I got from it when she was explaining, right? And obviously people are not taking it out of context saying why did she even say anything or now they're trying she's trying to make Rihanna look bad or all these different takes. But I feel like my take is just Tyler because people were pushing the whole Rihanna's a mean girl thing. I feel like Tyler was trying to say she's not a mean girl. When I first met her she was busy. This time I could see she was busy. So I didn't know how to approach the situation so I decided to stand back. All these other thoughts and stuff. I feel like we're just deep and putting two queens against each other.
>> Yeah. 100%. I think um people are making it bigger than what it is. But I guess always in situations, people will always just take whatever they see and run with it and create some unnecessary beef specifically because they're two superstars again doing the most in their field. And a lot of the time actually Tyler gets compared to Rihanna. So I think that's another thing of people probably being like, "Oh, Rihanna Pab doesn't like her cuz she's jacking her flow type shit." And I feel like Rihanna doesn't seem like an insecure woman. So I wouldn't think she would even care or think those things about Tyler. Tyler is doing her own thing. Even though people keep trying to compare her to others, she's doing a Biana bringing a new sound to the industry. So I think she's in her own lane doing her own thing and she probably just yeah was like you're saying being a normal person and respecting people's boundaries to say you look like you're busy. Let me not infiltrate your space which I think is perfectly okay. Should she have addressed it though? That's the question that a lot of people are asking. Like specifically in the way that she >> should have posted that video.
>> I'm 50/50.
I feel like on one end she shouldn't have cuz like just let people talk, keep people pushing like it's fine. But on the other end I think >> or rather what thing got picked up about Tyler is that she doesn't really care about like if there's outrage or anything like that. She just wanted to speak her mind and say this is what happened guys so whatever. And she's even joking about it and laughing about it. So I don't know. Not posting it obviously would have been the best option cuz then there wouldn't be all this raw but like she's posted it.
>> Yeah. I guess also she did what felt natural to her. So good and well. Um but yeah, would I have posted it? Probably not. I feel like it was a story that possibly should have gone in your close friends.
>> It did give close friends.
>> Yeah, it gave close friends, but at the same time, I also think she probably was coming for POV of like she doesn't want the narrative to run that Rihanna is a mean girl based off of an incident that happened with her. She probably like, let me defend this lady because justice for her. Like she was living her life and I was trying to respect her boundaries. So I think she was probably also coming from that POV. I can't be mad at that. probably like I don't want this narrative to run on my back like for sure but I feel like people need to not pin them against each other we actually don't know these people also at the end of the day we can't just assume that one doesn't like the other just because of two second interactions like >> yeah was there even an interaction there was no interaction there actually wasn't even an interaction and they'll probably meet one day and everything will be fine people were even saying we team I was like yo yo yo yo You guys are taking it so far.
>> Are they beefing? Ira and Tyler beefing.
>> No, it's another comparison thing.
>> Yeah, I was going to say it's it's kind of South Africa versus type of thing.
>> Oh, I see.
>> Again, putting queens against each other, guys.
>> I was going to say I even thought they were cool. Tyler and Ira Star.
>> I think they are cool cuz they've even done Tik Toks together.
>> That's what I'm saying. So, why are people putting them against each other?
>> They've just decided and fandoms.
>> Yeah, fandoms are a problem. Let's be honest.
>> On a little more serious note, I just wanted to give a little mention. The local government elections will be held on the 4th of November 2026 here in South Africa. And I just wanted us to use this platform to push voting. Guys, please, please, please vote. Your voice counts and we can complain and complain, but we need to make a change. Change >> the change comes with voting. So, I really need a spot like that. Please can we go out there?
>> Yeah, guys. I know. Don't get swed by the fact that there's a long line, there's this and that. Did you see the lines on that Winnie documentary? Those lines were wrapping rounds. So you waiting a little hour, you're not going to die. You will be fine.
>> You won't die, but you do want the place that you live in to be taken care of and for things to run smoothly. So vote >> and things aren't running smoothly. I'm just going to say that.
>> So things are just like >> specifically in Jober.
>> Yes. Like specifically in Joberg, we are >> things are scary. I don't want to lie.
>> I will be voting. Will be voting. So guys, we're going to get into a new little segment that we have. This episode is sponsored by Brutal Fruits.
We have a new segment called sip happens where I'll be reading different scenarios and we have to decide whether we cheers to it or we don't cheers to it. Give a little advice, our little takes on it. Shout out to Brutal Fruit for sponsoring this new segment. So, are you ready to me?
>> I'm ready girl.
>> It's basically like we're swapping the dilemma suits.
>> Yes. 100%.
>> Now you got to know what it's like to react.
>> At least this is a short though. So, true. So, the theme for this one is celebration moments >> cuz we are celebrating as you guys can see. the celebration feeling.
>> Yes.
>> So, first one, you got a new job and you want to share the news with your best friend. Problem is, she's unemployed and she's been tirelessly looking for a job.
You end up sharing the good news and her reaction is underwhelming to say the least. Is her reaction valid? Do you cheers to it or do you not cheers to her reaction?
>> Um, I'm not cheersing to it. M >> I'm not chasing to it >> because just because you are going through a tough period and that's not to minimize what you're going through.
>> Like we get it. You you're going through a hard thing, it doesn't mean that you can't be happy for your friend, >> the next person.
>> And it doesn't mean though that you have to be like elated and whatever the case is. Um but like >> supportive, you know, but actually I'm now I'm thinking about it. I'm like, you know what? It's like I'm trying to think. It depends on what the reaction is because if it's a situation where I was like, "Thanks, Chi, but I you my reaction was underwhelming to you." That's all I can Yeah. That's all I can give you at that moment cuz you know what I'm going through. Do you know what I'm saying?
So, I'm also like 50/50 about it actually now because I'm like, as long as if she said congratulations, but it wasn't the congratulations that you wanted, >> like you must also put yourself in her shoes and realize that this person, you know, that Oh, yeah. Go. So, she's trying to congratulate you, but yes, it's not going to be the elated congratulations cuz she's in hell right now.
>> Okay, that's a fair point. That's a fair point.
>> So, I think yeah, I'm I'm actually 50/50 now that I actually think about it.
>> Yeah. So, have cheers, have not cheers because obviously you want to support your friend, but at the same time, you have to understand that obviously for her, she's going to immediately be like, I wish I saw basically. But I guess if it was like maybe a taste, you could muster up the time to process it. Then you could >> Yeah, I'm thinking about if it's like a cuz they said the re the reaction is underwhelming. So it's like they gave a reaction. I'm assuming it was positive but it wasn't like wow.
>> I'M NOT IN A w era of my life right now.
I'm in hell >> cuz I need it. Do you get what I'm saying? Like I'm not in a elated era. So that's why like >> I think just you have to give your friend grace and be understanding that situation and not personalize it. I don't think she's like, "Why are you successful?"
>> And you have the context to know that she's been looking for a job, so she's not in a good place right now.
>> Yeah. True. Next one. You are having a 21st birthday celebration and you've had all of your close girlfriends. On the day of the celebration, one of your friends arrives with an uninvited plus one. The plus one in question is her boyfriend. You ask her why and she tells you he wouldn't let her come out unless he is there. How do you react in this situation? You're not getting a cheers out of me.
>> You are not getting a cheers.
>> Um, and as a result, I think that's insane. I'd probably pull you aside and be like, because you and your man are sick >> and you and your man got to dash.
>> You and your man dash.
>> If it means you just not going to experience the celebration, my birthday celebration, that's fine. I'll see you the next birthday.
>> But with that being said, I'd also probably pull her aside and say, "SQ, blink twice if you need to get out."
Because at the end of the day, it's one thing for him to say it to you. It's another thing for you to actually do it and actually bring him here. Like that means you can't like you're in danger.
So I'll probably ask you like queen like what the hell type [ __ ] Do you know what I'm saying?
>> Giving a lab on ruin.
>> Do you get what I'm saying? And you actually it's one thing for you to say are we lab it's another thing for you to not go.
>> So my point is the fact that you you've lost your free will is freaking me out.
>> Now we need to look into that. We need to look into your actual relationship.
My birthday I said >> yes. That's my biggest thing is that mm s you're not in a good place.
>> And also the fact that you were open enough to even tell me that instead of even lie you know >> the thing is you have to tell me because I I have to figure out why you would bring to my thing. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And you guys just have to go. So I'm not chasing to that. You have to go.
I'll see you next year at my next birthday and we'll work on this man in your life in the >> or even you can stay and I'll tell your man to leave because who invited you leave. What if he's like I said what I said she can't be happy too.
>> You have to go as a combo. Sorry.
>> But I'd literally have to wear a son and be like are you insane? Like are you well?
>> No. And even if she's telling me I'd be I'd probably start loving be like you're joking, right?
>> No, I'd literally you have to you need to sort this out >> cuz you can't be telling me what to do for now.
>> But I'm excited for this new segment, guys. You guys want to let us know what you guys think. We'll definitely be doing more. So, tune in, lock in, be in.
But guys, our topic of the week today, we are just doing a reflection on our past year as because we said so. Guys, excuse my moy opi. I'm so ill son. I'm fighting for my life slightly. But you know what? I'm going to push through it for you guys because you guys have been pushing through it for a few years.
Okay. Period.
>> Anyways, from the beginning, I want you to describe how you felt this year being a wisti has felt.
>> Where do I begin? Where do I begin? what the year has felt like as a twisty.
Yeah.
>> To me, I feel like the best way I can put it is like >> I could have never anticipated this. So, I'd say surprising and not derogatory.
Like, I knew I enjoy being in the podcast space and all of that, but I think just the reaction has been so heartwarming, the support, the fun, and us being able to express ourselves creatively in this way. It's just been full of surprises. like it's not I didn't expect everything whereas with what we usually do there's certain amount of expectancy so I'd say surprising for the most part >> got true I think for me purposeful is the word that I would use I feel like this has been >> such a labor of love and I feel like so many people have like been able to resonate with us and has been able to learn so much and have been able to have community find community like also contribute their voices in a platform with other women which I think is just so amazing So, I'm really really feeling like we're doing something that's actually helping people's lives. I don't feel like it's just a yapping situation.
Yes, we are just yapping, but I feel like people are actually learning stuff.
I'm learning stuff, you know, like everyone is learning stuff. So, I feel like yeah, like the purpose of the the podcast is really being fulfilled. And even with that, how did you feel before we started and like before we dropped our first episode? What was your temperature towards starting a podcast in general?
>> It nerves. Oh my gosh. because you're literally putting yourself out there for people to have an opinion and dismantle it and it's another way to be perceived. I'm already someone who's like I don't want to be perceived. So like starting a podcast I was like okay I'm really committing to being perceived every single week and putting my thoughts out there. Whereas for example like I feel like as a content creator and influencer in general I'm very much >> what would I say? What's pulled back?
Like I'm not someone who's super out there. I post every now and then I'm super curated. Yeah.
>> So with the pogos, it's like I don't have that much control. So you >> I had to let that go, which was the really really scary part of like you're not going to have as much control as you would like to have. So I was scared of that. And obviously >> you're scared of what people would think of your opinions at the same time. Like I wasn't walking in here just like I know everything and my opinion is the best and I want everyone to agree with me. Of course, even now week every week I don't expect everyone to agree with my opinion. But there was that fear of like will people think I'm stupid? Will people feel like you thought you ate that? Do you know what I mean? But that's the most thing I was scared of for sure.
>> Yeah, me as well. I feel like again as well on my social media platforms, I try not to share my opinions too much to be honest. Specifically because you obviously want to stay brand safe. You want to keep it cute. You don't want to do too much, be too much, say too much because I feel like people a twist your words and make them become something that they're not first and foremost. Or two, like you just sometimes you just are scared of being misunderstood. Like you might say something, people might misunderstand you, not grasp exactly what you're trying to say, then again like misinterpreted and spread misinformation about what you said.
Again, also in as much as yes, we are just sharing our opinions, people get very like um precious about their opinions. people don't like specifically when it doesn't tend towards what they believe. So if we don't all share the opinions, people get super.
That's why it's called because we said so. Because at the end of the day, if I said something, I said it, I meant it.
Also, like people a lot of the times don't allow you to change and evolve your opinions. That's the other thing.
So you might hold on to something I said three episodes ago. I've changed my mind this week. I I no longer believe that or I've learned more information or someone corrected me in the comments or whatever the case may be. So I'm evolving like being vulnerable and evol evolving on a public platform I feel like is very >> it's tough because again like you again you don't want to also misrepresent yourself and say the wrong thing and this third but also like what does it mean to censor yourself on your own platform to be like now you don't even want to say your real thoughts cuz you're scared of how people might receive it. So I think that was a big thing for me as well.
>> Yeah for sure. And also like the biggest thing that I took away from it was like >> you're going to learn every week. So you're going to take what you learned the previous week into the next week. So I just took it week by week and obviously reading the comments and people correcting you and even as yourself it can be tough when you say something and then someone's like h maybe then you're like oh I didn't think about it that way. So in the beginning it was definitely like oh my god but now I embrace it so much and I'm like I'm so open to learning and that's what the platform is for is for us to teach each other to have a conversations in the comments see online whatever it may be.
So that's like the one part that I'm at first was like but now I'm like okay.
>> Yeah. Exactly. And I feel like um my other thing is also like sometimes you'll say and I think I even touched on the first at the beginning but it's like we'll say something and then I look at the comments and someone will like misrepresent exactly what we've said and I'm like when did we do that?
>> Like we've never said that. Like you'll take what we've said and make it something completely brand new. So that's also something where I was like I'm so scared that people going to do that and people do it regardless. Yes.
Because you that's what I realized is also that sometimes you have to take it for what it is. Like you can't correct everyone and make sure everyone understands it the right way every single week. Sometimes you have to let it go and just be like you know what if that's what you're running with. If that's what you think we said that's fine.
>> Yes. Even this new clipping culture cuz people will take something that you've said out of context completely. And and I knew this even before I got into podcasting because I would see people do it to other people all the time. You take a small clip so out of context and then you say look at their views on such and such and it's like you've taken this outside of the context of a broader conversation cuz if you hear what I hear even goes exactly with the example with um Musa >> because it's like you've decided to take the part where we praising you instead of it's a we cooked you for maybe 10 minutes but you've decided to take the part where you're getting praised. valid fair. But my point is like that's what happens with that. Like that's where the miscommunication comes in cuz now people probably think we miss our fans and it's like >> you know what I'm saying? There's I saw a few comments on females saying it's so disappointing that females are are supporting him. I'm like you see you see that straight after that he was getting fried.
>> Not even after that before.
>> We booked him the whole time before we just gave you a little okay shout out though your show got kind of eat but like no one got that. There's only so much control you can have over that because same way we can post the reels that we post obviously to promote the show cuz we choosing once what we want to be out there but when people decide to snip what they want to sniff and sometimes I'm even like oh my god yes the logic is kind of madness but like saying it on the podcast feels better than >> when I'm saying it here like free to be me we're a family understand but now when it's a little clip where people don't know me they don't know how I speak how I banter now I seem like or I'm a hater in the comments or I hate [ __ ] Do you know what I mean? So when it's the snippets that people have chosen to put on, I'm just like, >> you see now, now I'm turning into this a mean girl or someone who just so opinionated.
>> It's even that thing of I've seen a comment sometimes like when people will clip our videos to say, "Oh, these girls are always male centered. All they talk about is and it's like when you guys clip our thanks, we talk about neglations.
You guys clip the negligations part."
And I'm like, it's so crazy cuz it will be maybe advice from a dilemma where we didn't talk about [ __ ] once in the whole episode because the advice has to do with the mannequ.
But that's what I also love about the [ __ ] is they're always in the comments BE LIKE, "HAVE YOU watched the podcast?" And I'm like, "Period."
Because sometimes you need to remind people that this is just a snippet in a larger story. We've literally been speaking for an hour. You want to take 10 seconds and say this is what the podcast is about.
>> It make sense.
>> Shout out to the Brussies for defending us.
>> No, they're right for us. That's why I'm like I will never hate on you guys because you guys will always be like guys justice for them. Like that is not what the podcast is about. I also want to ask what did you what do you feel like you underestimated about this job before we got into it.
>> The workload >> it never switches off.
>> I want you to know that like there's no day off each day the mind is in the pockets. It's literally like a like a baby like a one-year-old NEWBORN AND it was in the newborn season. Yes, it was still is like you working at it constantly every single day. For example, we I have to stay alert what the pop culture is. Well, both of us actually you have to stay alert what's happening in pop culture. So when something happens, write it down in your notes app. We have to stay conscious of like things that are happening today.
The topics we have to come up with new ideas.
It's partnerships. We have to make sure kitchen we on the same like the mind is constantly moving and every week there's an episode. That episode itself requires work. We have a production team to communicate >> guys. There's so >> and you still have to be creative and then you still have your own personal life, your own creativity, your own personal job. The like the workload I actually can't even put into words.
>> Yeah, 100%. I don't think I anticipated it. I feel like we're working so much more. I'm even for myself, let me actually speak for MYSELF. I FEEL LIKE I'M WORKING >> like a dog and there and specifically it's cuz people I feel like will also want you to be consistent on every single platform all the time. It's like, oh, you no man is like able to do a 50. Unfortunately, I'm not every woman and it's not all in me, okay? Like, I'm actually not every woman. And I feel like because we're both so hands on with it now since it is like we were saying in the newborn phase, it requires so much of our attention right now. So, it kind of like doesn't leave room to give other things that much attention. And it literally sounds dramatic, but it's literally not.
So not like even in the beginning I was like oh it's probably going to be a lot of work but you make time for everything. But now that we in the thick of it I'm like >> the time is actually not there.
>> Where is the time for the other stuff?
Literally even with little things like for example after we shoot we usually go eat and have lunch. At that lunch we're most likely working. We're coming up with the next thing. We're planning for the next thing. Something's hanging over your head. I feel like the only day I have that isn't dedicated to podcast is maybe like Friday. I was going to say the weekend is the only day and even so on the weekend you still have to make time to watch the episode.
>> Actually, we don't even take a break on the weekend >> cuz even like I'll have like a calm Sunday and then I'm like you got work to do guys. So it really doesn't end cuz like it's it's Monday to Monday.
>> Yeah. But I feel like that's what a lot of people don't talk about when it comes to starting some a business and something new. It's like it's going to require so much of your attention. It is a newborn baby. You will have to give it your all. specifically for us where I feel like in the first year of us launching we've gotten so many eyes on us and so much attention in like a positive way which has been great. I feel like it's a platform that the girlies were kind of like waiting for and needed and there was room for us in the industry but in the same breath it just means that while we have the eyes we need a lock in.
>> You better work.
>> You know what I'm saying? Cuz also careers and like businesses have es and flows type of thing. So it's kind of like when you have people's attention you need a lock in. You can't let that go and be like, well, let me just be non cuz it's like when do you know again where you have this much attention on your >> 100%. I think we're definitely in in a moment of we're peing and we don't want to mess up the peak. We need to keep going.
>> We got to keep going. And even if we cartel, even if you feel like there's no ideas in that brain, fine then.
>> Yeah. And I feel like even the other thing that I don't think I anticipate is how tough the consistency is, guys.
Again, like we're saying, it's it requires you to be on every single week.
The seven days goes by so quickly. Feels like >> literally like you don't even like notice how quickly it goes past because you're always doing things in between.
So consistency has been really tough and always having to show up and be on at least once a week on our personal platforms. We could we had the luxury of taking a break, a personal week, a personal month, a personal there's no personal whatever because again like like Lindsay was saying, there's a production, there's you guys, there's us. We have a a duty to each other. We have a duty to the production team. Like we have commitments that we've put in place where you can't just be like, "Well, I'm I'm trying.
>> I want to do this." Like imagine if one week I'm like, she'd be like, >> "Same."
>> Or if we both don't the production team would be like, "Wow, aren't you guys here?" Like there's a what's the word?
>> Eos. Ecosystem. So I will say like it's it's taught me a lot of accountability and the fact that this is a train that we're doing together and which is fun but also at the same time it keeps you in check >> and accountable accountable. I think that's even probably the good part about us doing this together so that you have someone to hold you accountable to say girl get up girl >> I know you're tired but we got to get up. It's also really really nice to feel like the other thing of doing a business with your friend is that when it is the tough times and like it's the work is overwhelming whatever we get to share those moments and be like me see like we're fighting for our lives but like we got this or sometimes I say let me handle this one cuz I can see you're going down. She'll be like me I'll handle this one. So that really helps.
It doesn't feel like you're going through it alone or all of this is on you. there is someone to share that load with even if it's just to say oh boy let's say >> yeah this has been a rough week >> yeah for sure and sometimes you just do need that because and someone who understands what you're going through cuz sometimes yeah people a lot of the times people really do think we just show up at work and just yap and we leave and it's like there is too much that goes on outside of just the yapping I kind of wish it was that simple actually for us to just arrive talk exactly but you don't realize how much goes into pre and postp production that takes up quite a lot of time like By the time you guys have watched this, we've been hearing the same episode.
When it goes live on Wednesday, I'm like, "Okay." But then you go for a second because we are short.
>> By time it's Wednesday, you're back on.
>> Yeah. You're back on. So there's no like point where we relax. I would even say this is probably the easiest part.
>> This is the easiest part. Like if we That's what I'm saying. If we only have to do this, oh my god, I CAN EVEN UPLOAD TWICE a week >> because snag.
>> But all that other stuff is where I'm like, damn. like you you podcasters are working. Shout out guys. Shout outs. I wanted to ask when did it kick for you that that Biss was actually something and like we're actually pushing a serious thing with this platform.
>> I'd say the first memory that comes to mind for sure is when people started tweeting a lot saying, "Guys, these girls are not just ging for vibes.
There's intention. There's a message.
They're teaching us something and it's exactly what the young girls needed."
That's when I was like >> period. Cuz I will say in the beginning it kind of just felt like me and my friend. are yapping. Yes, there's probably more substance in what we're saying, but at the end of the day, either you care or you don't, whatever.
But then I started to see that, oh my god, people actually take what we have to say and it means something to them and they apply to their own personal lives. And I was like, >> damn. And obviously it does apply pressure where you're like, oh, okay, I'm I'm the big sis. I got to say the right thing before you do the wrong thing based on what I'm saying. So I think for me it was obviously the reception. It was first tweet I remember cuz it got a lot of retweets and I was like wo wo this is kind of crazy and then of course the comment section I'm like >> we're actually changing people's lives and I remember in the beginning we'd have conversations to be like me did you read the comments like people >> are actually [ __ ] with us hard and not on some on some you guys say smart things and we take it into our own personal lives and it's changed our lives and it's helped us.
>> Yes. For me as well, whenever I see people saying either young girls being like, "Wow, you guys are really the big sisters. I didn't know I needed or I didn't have." And to be honest, I'm not like big on the big sister stuff in the sense that I'm going to make mistakes.
Like, I'm not trying to be perfect. I'm not trying to guide you, whatever. But like, we're kind of here to speak about our experiences. And if you guys can find value in what we're saying, please take it. But I'm not even saying that you're wrong for saying that. I'm just saying like I don't want to internalize it too much so that I'm not myself cuz I have this heavy burden of, oh, I'm someone's big sister type thing. But when people gave those things to say, "Wow, you guys, I'm really learning so much from you. I'm a varsity student.
I'm getting so much insight. I'm in my early 20s like and I don't have maybe girlfriends who can guide me. Like you guys are really the people that I lean into." And even when we'd like hear feedback from older women saying that, you know what, ladies, you guys are doing the Lord's work. Like if I had a daughter, I'd wanted to listen to your guys' podcast. You guys are spitting that and I'd be like, "Wow, like we're actually cooking something like actually we are saying something of substance here."
>> Yes. Then like going back to the older women parts where they'll say you guys say it's for women in their 20ies but even myself who's in my 30s I still learn from you guys I'm like are we wise and [ __ ] that I think it's even just nice for them to see different perspectives from younger women to say oh this is maybe how I thought now I'm learning or maybe my child is in the same bracket so maybe I also want to even when I saw the [ __ ] watching I said period welcome we know you want to be here well sit on the couch come on come through so obviously this is a platform form that we specifically we had women in mind cuz again we were like there's no women who are speaking for women as women young 20-year-old even though we're not going to be young and 20 for a long time but we were just like this is the podcast type of podcast we would have wanted so let's be the change must be changed >> we are the change and it for me the other surreal thing is that >> the fact that people look up to me like just in that simple fact I feel like I'm so used to looking up to others that I never considered that people could look up to me other And maybe like my cousins that are younger than me looking up to me for the obvious things, but like for people to look up to me based on what I have to say has been very humbling and you know warms my heart to say you know what >> you don't have to always just be looking at the people that inspire you. There's people that you also inspire. So it's like it's a process.
>> Yeah. It's a two-way street. You inspiring as much as you are inspired.
Exactly.
>> Um I also wanted to ask what has been your favorite type of feedback to receive? I feel like the the feedback for me is hearing that from other people to say that this is not just a podcaster and as much as we do laugh and stuff.
There's serious things that are being spoken about on here as well. That's and also >> feel like it's always nice to hear the good things about yourself. I mean, we're human. Hello. So, I feel like every week I'm just soaking up words of affirmation like people affirming you saying, "Oh my god, you're so wise.
You're so smart." So maybe sometimes I'll say something that I felt like was nothing, but someone will be like, "Wow, I actually didn't think of it that way."
And I'm like, "Okay, period." Do you know what I mean? And then also things like, "You guys tell us we're beautiful every week. I love that." Like every week people be like, "Oh my god, never fast." That's nice to hear. Or what's the skincare routine? Like yes, it may sound like I'm being vain, whatever, but those things are nice to hear. We are human. So, I feel like especially someone who's extremely self-critical, hearing such positive things about myself every single week has definitely boosted my confidence and made me feel like >> maybe something's happening.
>> Yeah, but this will really make you get used to your face, child, cuz you're looking at yourself every freaking day.
Okay.
>> You just have to be happy with your face.
>> You have to be like that's also what I realized like I'm really seeing my face in every single angle. Angles I've never seen before.
>> In every season making a pimple when your skin is saying no. when your makeup looks bad that when your hair sucks, >> you will be on that screen and you have to run with it. There's no filter.
There's no >> That's the crazy part. Like that's one thing I also picked up. I said, "Damn, I'm looking at myself a lot these days."
Like, and it's >> and I have to be happy with what I see.
>> Yes, you have to. Cuz it's also like I'm not going to be like change the episode cuz of how I don't feel like I I look the best. So, I didn't [ __ ] with my outfit this day. Too [ __ ] bad. That's still going on.
>> You put You should have put that [ __ ] on AND YOU SHOULD HAVE AND AGAIN, IT COMES down to the time thing. I'm cut sometimes. I'm rushing that day and the fit is kind of mid. So >> yeah, it happens. It happens. How was your family's response to your new found career? Your talking stuff >> and the people closest to you in general, like how have they felt towards it?
>> I'd say initially like I'll start with our friends. They were all like, "Guys, this makes complete sense." Like they were like before we even started yapping just when it was an idea, they were like, "This is an incredible idea." So I do think that was also a motivating motivating factor for us to say okay we got to do this cuz obviously our friends know us best. So if they feel like we got something to say we got to say it.
So their reaction was really really really nice. And then with my family >> I'm trying to think did I tell them prior to it? I think I did tell my cousins and obviously they were like girl deal. But I think obviously initially you don't really know what it is or understand it so you're just going to be like great. But once the podcast started now, they're like, "Girl, >> you kind of eating.
>> You're killing him." Like, so I feel like they've been very much surprised as well. Obviously, in a good way to say, "Wow, this thing's doing really well." And also learning a lot through me, what the podcast business is, what it entails, and also they're probably like, "Damn, you kind of smart and stuff. You guys some you're not this." Cuz obviously my cousin's always like, "To us, you just land your way like whatever." But other people actually like listen but it's so nice hearing from them like to say you know what as my big sister listen to your advice it's like so yeah it's been really heartwarming. Yeah, literally same. I feel like everyone in my family has been really really supportive and just been like period girl. Like do something new. If you feel like you're doing something purposeful, do it. Do it wholeheartedly. Go off. And also friends have always been supportive. Like that was was even a given. But I think also being on this platform and specifically as it pertains to friends and family, I feel like I've also kind of because I feel like I'm so much more exposed to people and people's opinion. I feel like even more so than before, I kind of like don't want to talk about my family too much on this podcast. don't want to do. It's kind of like added a extra layer of protection to say you know cuz sometimes while we're on here cuz it is just me and Lindsay most of the time so you kind of get free and you want to you want to so it has also like reminded me that like okay you on this podcast you bearing your soul being vulnerable and wearing your heart on your sleeve the people in your life have not. So like why are they in it?
>> Yes. So it's also just reminded me that also while you are having those conversations just remember to and it's not even from them saying it's kind of like a thing from my end to say you know what like I need to actually watch what what I say as it pertains to other people because they don't want to be on this platform and like why does like someone in your life just randomly know something that I shared about you on the podcast like justice for you. You know what I'm saying?
>> I I was even like that with vlogging like >> in the beginning when I'd vlog I'd just vlog vlog and then I was like they didn't sign up to be vloggers. So, and I noticed cuz a lot of people comments would be like, "When you're with your sister, you don't vlog her. You don't vlog your mom. You don't." I'm like, "That's cuz they didn't sign up for this platform. Now, my mom must be walking the mall cuz it's happened."
>> OH MY GOD, you Oh my god. Like, she didn't sign up for the Gang. Like, obviously, all love she receives it, but like she doesn't sign up for that. So, I think applying that to the podcast as well is definitely something we have to be conscious of cuz why are they in it at the end of the day?
>> Like, why are they in it? And they have to go back and live their real lives.
And Tina, WE BUSY BING ON THEIR LIVES. Like justice for them literally. I wanted to ask you, do you feel like this job is easier than our other job? Which one do you actually feel like is harder?
>> It's so much harder. I mean, we've touched on it already with Zimmer in this podcast lifestyle. So, it is definitely much harder because it requires a lot more from you and a lot more intentionality. And like we were saying, because of the ecosystem, there's a lot of accountability. There's for example even something as simple as I am on this podcast with my friend at the end of the day. So I have to always keep that in mind and whereas with influencing it's just you the decisions are just yours. Whatever you want to do you do it. If you want to not vlog anymore you don't have to. If you don't want to post this week whereas with this job you have to communicate with someone because we're doing this together. So yeah it is a lot harder.
>> I agree. I feel like um like you said I feel like working on your own for me I just find it so much easier because you don't have to consult with anyone you do things as and when you want but when there is so many chains of processes to editing or what are we going to speak about or who needs to get this or what there's a lot that needs to go on so there's just a lot more that goes into it naturally but I think that is the hardest part in the sense that the talking part is really not that hard >> yes like we're not like doing surgery what I'm saying like we're talking. That is the easiest part also because most of the times like we're not like yes it makes it easier to have a show but it's not like we're censoring ourselves throughout the episode like we are literally just free flowing it and seeing where we land and where the conversation kind of goes. Yeah, >> I agree.
>> What would you feel like is the most challenging part of this job?
>> Ooh, the most challenging parts I'd say there's a lot of challenging parts. one, the consistency, which we already touched on, >> but I'd say >> people having an opinion on you every week because we spoke on the positive ones, but there's also the negative ones. Those can be tough. Um, because sometimes negative comments, I do want to reply back. I do want to be like, "This is not what I meant." But it's going to be exhausting if I do that at the end of the day. And I should focus on the positive things. So, I'd say that is one of the hardest parts is the negative comments. And also, like I was saying earlier, I feel like I'm being perceived even more.
>> So, I feel like it's increased the visibility. So, it's like people tweet about us a lot more. People have a lot more opinions on what we look like and what we're doing. And so, that part I feel like I'm on edge a lot more cuz I'm like, what do people have to say now?
So, that that part's been tough. And then also, I want to say this so carefully, watch my WS. I obviously love bumping into boosties and all of that.
Like even when I was just a YouTuber, bumping into the Gang, it's such a nice feeling to understand that these subscribers are bumped. It's not just numbers. So, I love that. But now I feel like the numbers are higher. So, the the level of >> perception is higher.
>> Perception of visibility is higher. So, I feel like we're bumping into a lot more people. So I feel like the negative side of that is like I feel like when I'm out I feel like I'm being looked at if that makes sense. So there is a level of feeling like you're under a microscope. Yes. Like I'm in a fishbowl.
So as much as obviously I love it. I am human at the end of the day sometimes.
I'm like oh my god this is very scary but like love it.
>> Yeah. I think for me, even as it pertains to negative comments, I even feel like being on the podcast has made me more like not give a [ __ ] about what people have to say. Cuz I feel like once you see something about yourself, you're like, "Oh, okay, that's crazy." And then if you see other things, it's kind of just like >> you have to ask yourself, am I going to choose to focus on the positive or the negative? And there's so much positive to say like why would I give this negative stuff any attention cuz no one agrees with you. Do you get what I'm saying?
you're the only one who thinks that everyone else is [ __ ] with my who cares about what you're talking about.
Like in fact, you the outlier. Everyone else is [ __ ] with it. So I think for me it's made me more be like anyone who's hating, I don't really care about what you're talking about cuz everyone else is [ __ ] with my thing. But if it's something that is constructive, I've also loved seeing that to say people know or specifically people who know how to give a criticism without being rude or derogatory to say, "Hey guys, this is this and this is what's going on." Like or this maybe you guys should change this or and from a place of I want to see you guys do better. I love you guys so much. Like I'm a part of your community. It would be nice if you could change this or this. You didn't do that's fine. But it's like don't talk to us like you stupid. Do you get what I'm saying? like have about how you say it >> 100%. But for me, biggest challenge as well I think has been the consistency but in the same breath I think it has also helped me in a lot of different ways in other parts of my life because it's helped me be consistent in other ways. I feel like people always say that when you're disciplined in one area of your life it does trickle into other facets of your life. Yes, I've definitely felt like >> being consistent in this POV has helped me a lot in life. So I'm very grateful for that. But I als it like whether it's been events, whether it's been episodes, whether it's been like what do you feel like has been the hardest parts?
>> The hardest parts.
>> Yeah.
>> Ooh.
Do you want to take it?
>> I'll start. I feel like for me the hottest part is probably being vulnerable on the internet because that is not my bag. Like that's really not my bag. I don't like it. I prefer to keep my personal things personal. But I do understand that sometimes when you're relaying your experiences and trying to kind of convey message, there is a level of vulnerability that's necessary also for someone to also see themselves in you and to really get that you get what they're saying. I remember even there was um a vulnerable moment that I had shared maybe like a week or two ago and someone clipped it and put it on TikTok and I was like you cuz I can't believe this is happening to me. But at the same time, I was like, you know what? It's it's the cost. Do you know what I'm saying? Cuz are they wrong for thinking? And maybe they saw themselves in whatever I was saying. They were like, you know what?
Period. But for me, I was like, I could vomit watching this thing. But I was also like, you know what? It it's it's what has to happen. You know what I'm saying? It's just kind of having my I don't mind being put out there, but it's when it's like my intimate feelings and things that are close to my heart, I'm like, "Oh my, wow, >> you're in my underwear.
>> Like, you're in my underwear right now."
And like I like that. But it's to say it's not to say that I will stop, but it's just like definitely >> challenging. It's >> something that you have to every time it happens it's like okay do this one.
That's a really good one. I think for me it's the toughest part has been having to show up in the space of adversity if that makes sense. So I have to >> be creative, speak on this podcast and say some sense, learn some bars. but also I'm kind of going through a lot at the same time. So for me balancing that which I we've touched on before we in another topic. So I feel like for me that was the toughest part is that >> sometimes I feel like some episodes you can see we go along even though maybe >> but I don't feel like you can see it. I was about to say I don't think you can see it. I'm saying for others maybe they can't see it but for me sometimes I'm like oh in this episode I feel like you can tell I'm having a little feeling or you know what I mean and again going back to my health thing the vulnerable thing you're talking about ordinarily no one would have known anything about it you know what I mean but now being on the podcast I feel like everyone is in my business when it comes to that so now when I even just post on my story now everyone's focus is on it's all right it's m and obviously I get that. But for me, it's like I want to go through this moment as privately as possible. But then if I'm not sitting on this couch on episodes, people know something's up.
>> I hate that part cuz I'm like now, you know, wherever I am, something's going on where before you didn't know what was happening at all until maybe I brought it up in a vlog to say, "Guys, actually, the past few weeks I was going through this, but it's only after the fact." So, I think that's the part that was toughest for me. is just like yo, I guess like you saying vulnerable like I'm just >> Yeah, we on here.
>> Yes. Like even us just sharing our experiences. It's things we would never ordinarily share on our vlogs. Like why am I telling you about this thing that happened to me when I WAS A CHILD? WHY AM I TELLING YOU THAT I HAVE daddy issues from my Do you get what I'm saying? Like you would never ordinarily have that conversation. So it's like people are getting to know us on a deeper level, but that also comes with the deeper level of vulnerability from our side, which is a little bit scary.
>> It is kind of tough. Like every week it is still tough but like you just have to have thick skin.
>> Yeah. What has being on the Because it says so your podcast taught you over the past year.
>> Oh discipline. Oh that's like the biggest one. I am one person see again vulnerable clip. I'm one person who has always struggled with discipline my whole life. Um I feel like it's been one of my insecurities as well. So I feel like being on the podcast I'm like you know what you actually can be disciplined. It's a choice. It's something you can work on. It's not like a character thing that you're born with and you have it. If it wasn't something you naturally had, it doesn't mean you must just accept that. You can work on it and decide was you know what I want to be a disciplined person. So I feel like this podcast has definitely taught me that to say I can be disciplined.
There's you can have a bag of excuses but sometimes those excuses don't matter. You have to do the work. You have to show up and all of that. And I was definitely one of those people that had every excuse for something. Do you know what I mean? So this taught me a lot of discipline.
>> That's good. I feel like me as well has is also not even that it's taught me but it's reemphasized discipline and what also the power of discipline has cuz I feel like a large part of this podcast beauty and brains aside has been the consistency and the fact that everyone knows exactly where to find us every single week at what day what time and we have stuck to it. Obviously unforeseen circumstances have happened but for the most part we've been very consistent. we haven't strayed and we've always communicated with our um community which I feel like has been really really good.
Um, another thing for me, what was I going to say? Actually, I actually had it on the top of my head.
>> We can wait for read.
>> What was it? What was the question?
>> What was the question?
>> What you learned from what voice has taught you?
>> What it's taught me is teamwork. That's what it is.
>> Okay.
>> Teamwork makes the dream work. Everyone, if their part is played well, will contribute to a welloiled machine. And I feel like I lost a sense of that working on my own and having to do [ __ ] on my own and whatever. teamwork does indeed make the dream work if everyone is doing what the team needs. And I also think it's important to know what your strengths and what your weaknesses are and what you bring to the team so that you do that and you work in whatever you're good at and you hone in on what you're good at and you support in ways where people may have weaker spots or blind spots. You support in that way in the same way that they'll support you in spaces where you are weaker. Do you know what I'm saying? So I think it's really really been good to see how a good team can work together. Um, so yeah, that's a big one for me because of communication.
>> Yes. Because I feel like the job of influencing and becoming a content creator is very isolating in a sense.
You don't really talk to a lot of people. You don't really And for me, I haven't been working with a manager for a while. So even before I had a manager, I would literally not talk like for days specifically like before I was even living with my sister like you could go for days without opening your mouth. So I think now there's constant communication between us and the team making things happen and also just relying on different ideas to push um a group forward >> for sure. You know what I'm saying? And also understanding that it's not just about you. That's a big one with the teamwork is that with any decision that has to be made or planning whatever it's you have to consider that there's others involved%.
Oh, the one that I wanted to say is that it's taught me confidence in that. Um, you have to really be confident in yourself and believe in yourself because a lot of the time I would again self-criticize, doubt myself a lot, judge myself a lot, not feel like I'm good enough, pretty enough, dress well enough. So with this podcast because you're so exposed, you really have to be content with yourself because people are seeing everything about you, hearing everything about you almost every week.
So it it requires a level of contentment so that it doesn't every week cuz I will lose my mind if every week I'm like oh my god my hair this week. Oh my god why did I say this? It's going to be exhausting. So it's taught me to just be like girl it's fine if someone doesn't like your outfit this week that's fine.
You loved it. Or if someone feels like they disagree with you this week that's fine. I don't expect to be right every week. Do you know what I'm saying? you know, it's me.
>> Or similarly, if you see yourself in the podcast and maybe you wore a [ __ ] outfit and you're like, you know what, I wore this [ __ ] outfit and what the [ __ ] are you going to DO ABOUT IT? I HAVE I have bad days. And that's another thing is to be like, I'm not going to kill him every single week. I can't be kidding.
>> Do you know what I'm saying? And it's also just a thing of being like it's fine. And also, I think it's like desentering, going back to the looks thing and like just how you present on camera. It's going back to desentering those things. Like a lot of the times when you are looking at yourself, you're nitpicking. You're saying, "Oh, my hair, my meanwhile, the business is watching."
It's like, "Oh my god, you look so beautiful." Or they're like, "Oh, your outfit eats." Meanwhile, you're feeling so insecure. So this and that because you're thinking, "Oh, other people are going to have these thoughts that they're not even having." Like, it's kind of reminding me to desens desenter what I look like because people are not focusing on that. People are listening to what I'm saying. They're not focusing on, oh, your braids look old or your whatever. Like, people don't like they're worried about what I'm talking about.
>> Yes. All they're happy about is the fact that we showed up.
>> Yes. 100%. They're just happy to see you. Yeah, >> but a quick one. Favorite episode so far.
>> You know what I'm going to say? Top of my mind, the episode where we spoke about where I spoke because I felt like it was mostly focused on me. I'm balancing um going through success but also going through a tough time. The duality.
>> The duality of life. Love that episode mainly because I felt like it was the one episode where I really wasn't thinking too much. I was speaking truly from the heart because that's exactly what I was going through at that time.
Kind of felt like a therapy session. It was even like Zama could have not been there that day.
>> I felt like I was just speaking from the heart and trying to get people to understand where my mind is at right now. So yeah, I really enjoyed that episode.
>> Me I think I enjoyed um is having a boyfriend embarrassing? I enjoyed that conversation so much. And the other conversation that we had had about dating in our 20ies cuz I feel like it was so funny and I feel like people just enjoyed it was a Kiki. People were going in the comments like I enjoyed Alan Good as well. But I just feel like conversation was so funny and so lighthearted and so fun cuz it's like we can look back at some painful moments and just laugh about them or look at some be like that hurt me but like I can look back at it and it's funny and I think the having a boyfriend embarrassing. love discourse. So, I feel like the discourse around that article was so good and I feel like it was really just feeling like journalism was back >> because I feel like yes, people don't think it's an intellectual conversation to have per se, but for me, I felt like it truly was an intellectual conversation because the way it was discussed and framed on social media like people like people were bringing back the art of reading an article and actually dissecting it, which is what I enjoyed. I think >> you're right. And also the comment section of that video.
>> Yes, there were a lot of different opinions. So there wasn't like one stock like this is what I think. So you're right that was >> what's your vision of because you said so in the next year in the next year >> large and in charge obviously more more >> more just more >> more more and I think obviously honing in a lot more on the business side of things. I feel like when it comes to this part I feel like we're doing pretty well. Obviously, there's always room to go be more creative, bring in more things, 100%. But I feel like on the business side of things, I'd love to see us push a little more, be in our little bags.
>> Yeah, 100%. I agree. I I agree with that 100%. I also would love to see us um speak to more people, have more conversations with other people cuz obviously we up well with each other every week, but I feel like it's also really fun to have guests on the show.
So definitely more guests, definitely more business, definitely a bigger community and having more community moments where we can actually meet each other because yes, it is fun to meet you guys like on the streets and stuff.
Cool. But I think it's more fun to have like intentional conversations, intentional points where people can, you know, maybe tell us what they think about the podcast, also share their opinions, their views, you know, like have a cute little live show, little something just so that we can actually touch base with the people that watch us literally every single week. For sure.
>> Yeah, 100%. So what does success look like for you for the boys podcast in closing because me is val what does success look like for me on the podcast?
>> Yeah, just for now like because you know what our dreams might get bigger. So >> true. I actually even want to say like I feel like it's happening right now. Like everything that it is right now is the su is the success that I would have wanted and it's even gone beyond my expectations. I was I was thinking small [ __ ] and God big. Yes. So I even want to say the way it's doing right now I'm proud of it and the success is great. Um yeah >> I don't know for me I feel like success for me is like when we truly own everything that we do like everything is boys. We don't need to rely on any outside sources to be successful and to keep this podcast going. And that's not to say that we rely on them now, but just to say that like I want us to be an welloiled machine that exists as its own entity entity that can even help other people if that makes sense. Specifically as it pertains to the business side of things because I feel like my whole goal I think in my career, in my personal career, whatever is to own whatever it is that I'm doing because I feel like a lot of our career has to do with outside factors. Whether it's brands, whether it's people um having a like two three people who really really like if with us and if people we have a bad day, your career is over over or if someone closes down, you know, a social media platform, everything is over. So that's why I'm like I really hope and I I know we will get to the place where we own our own stuff whether even if it's we own um a podcast house and we can host other podcasts.
kind of pay what we're doing forward and continue it as a legacy project, not just to have it be a podcast that one day we decide we're stopping and then you'll never hear from.
I think there's a lot of work we put into it. There's a lot of time and effort that goes into it. So, I would love it to live beyond just this platform to continue the community outside of this.
>> I love that answer cuz I'll be part of it.
>> 100% 100%. But let us know what you guys think. Tell us what your favorite episode is as well in the comments.
Can't wait to read them you guys. But we are going to move on to our dilemas. You guys know that you can send us your dilemas via email to [email protected].
That's [email protected].
So let's get into the first one. Hey dolls, I really need your advice about something personal. Please keep me anonymous. I met this guy when I was 17 during my gap year and we instantly clicked. It was innocent at the time, but when my parents found out, my dad and uncle told him to stay away from me.
I understand that I was still young, but the way it was handled hurt me because I felt threatened instead of guided and we never spoke about it again. We continued our relationship in secret and now we're both 21. He later got a scholarship to study in Poland, so we've been doing long distance. Despite the distance, he has remained consistent and we've grown closer. We're both trying to grow spiritually and have decided to abstain until marriage and focus on building our futures. The advice I need is this. I still feel some resentment towards my dad for how things were handled and I'm not sure if it is wrong to still feel hurt. If this relationship continues and we plan to marry in the future, should I tell my parents the truth about us staying together? What if they don't accept him? How do I handle choosing between my partner and my parents? Also, should I worry about our small age difference? What is the age difference?
>> What's the age I was going to ask is the So, the parents issue is the age difference.
>> I don't I don't think so. I think >> she said they're both 21 now.
>> Yeah, she said they're both 21. So, I'm confused. Maybe they've got a month's difference >> and the parents have said about that.
>> I think she's saying that they're mad that they were in a relationship when she was 17. So the dad the parents kept them away said like in the relationship but they didn't handle it. They were young at that time but she continued the relationship in secrets but now they and she's continuing the relationship even though it's long distance.
>> Okay, >> that's where it is. So now she doesn't want to I guess reveal to her parents that I've been seeing this guy even from when you guys told me not to be with him. and she wasn't happy with the way that her dad and her her uncle um handled the situation at the time. She felt threatened instead of guided by her her her dad >> and her uncle.
>> I guess doesn't it boil down to having a conversation with them cuz how will they know how truly made you feel if you don't let them know?
>> 100%. Especially if you want to marry this man, you're going to have to have a conversation with them for them to accept the situation and maybe even frame it as like I understand why you guys were upset about it cuz we were young at the time and I get that you guys could have communicated it differently, but now we older and we are at the age where we can be together.
We're pushing this long distance thing and we potentially we are going to be together forever. So, I need us to address this situation and move on because he's going to be around forever.
I don't know.
>> Yeah, I agree. I think for me, I'm not bouncer, but I'm I'm a I'm be doing what I want type of girl. So that's why I'm like trying to put myself in the situation and not be like, well, I can date him now. Like what are you actually going to do to stop me? Because you guys are 21, he's in Poland, you're here.
Like there's nothing there that they can actively do to stop you because even then they couldn't do anything to stop you type of thing. So I think um yeah, when and I think you also I think are just thinking ahead. You're overthinking it because I think you need to wait until a situation comes when he is ready to marry you and propose to you and you can have that conversation then. But I think you having it before then is a bit premature. I'll be completely honest because what are you telling them?
You're telling them, "Oh, I I stayed with this guy." Like, what are you telling them for? Cuz are you getting married to him?
>> No wedding right now.
>> Do you get what I'm saying? There's no engagement. So for me, I would only really tell my parents if it was going to materialize. And if I could see, okay, now he's trying to send letters.
So now I'll have the conversation with you to say, listen, me and my man kept pushing. It is what it is. This is a situation. I didn't appreciate how you handled that situation. So, I continue with my man and he's a good man since we're still together right now. And I don't think the issue your dad had was with the person. I think it was the fact that you were in a relationship when you were 17.
>> Yes. It was it wasn't that he hates your partner.
>> So, I think that's even why I was saying it it boils down to just a conversation to say he's around now. So, can you guys get over it so they can be peace within?
>> Yeah. And what are they going to do?
Like they can't really do much. Do you get what I'm saying?
>> True. Even if they do have the conversation, they're still like what can they do? That's my thing.
There's nothing I can do.
>> The next one says, "Hi ladies. I have a big one on my hands. So last year, October, I started being friends with this girl. It was more so a festive vibe. We gel gum dandy. It was fun. So much fun that the friendship crossed over into the new year. And obviously there isn't any groove like any more groove like that. It's just lectures, assignments, and stuff. Now, here's the problem. Her ex is my type and I like him. Now, hear me out. I've known the guy for a long time, but I didn't see him like that. But since last year, I talked myself out of it and let it go."
No, no, no. I'm lying. But since yeah, I'm right. Okay, period. Then they broke up in December. Recently, I believe they are trying to get back together. And weirdly enough, I felt a way about it.
Now again, hear me out. About a year ago, I was in a relationship similar to what they had. Toxic and frustrating. I just started feeling better and normal after a long time of hurting. Ma, here's what I'm thinking. Cut her out of my life because I like her boyfriend and that's really messed up. I would never want to do something to hurt her like that because she loves him loads and it's all she talks about. And lastly, I don't want to be her sounding board and therapist for something I'm unlearning and healing from. Some things still trigger me, and I promise myself I would move differently to help heal. Her and I both know she's just going back to hurt herself all over again. I know I seem a little evil, ladies, but trust me, I'm not. Is letting her go a great move, or should I just hang around her, allowing these nasty feelings for her soon to be man to fester? I don't want to be those friends that secretly hate their friends. The whole situation is just not me. Please help. What? Girl, that was a mouthful. Girl, >> damn. What the hell did you just read, >> Santa? When I read this, I said, "You guys nuts things in your lives."
>> Does it even need advice besides the fact that you are sick?
>> She wants to know if she should I think you should cut her out of your life because you're having a gy feeling. So, I think you should. And I feel like you liking her boyfriend is weird to me.
Like how did you develop like for her boyfriend even if it was her ex? And I feel like all these excuses you're making, oh it's toxic. It reminds me of my you saying all that stuff cuz you want it because you're saying their relationship is toxic yet you want to be a part of it.
>> To be a part of it.
>> So it's like how toxic can it possibly be cuz and you're even willing to cut her off.
So you have Do you get what I'm saying?
So it's like I think you're making excuses because you want to be her.
>> That's kind of scary. I don't want to lie to you. Her saying we mustn't think she's evil. I don't know about us.
>> I'm signing. They have to end the friendship because staying keeping her as a friend is making her quirky.
>> It is. But I just feel like you're going to do this to someone else. And I'm worried about the next person >> like to to another woman.
>> Yes. You >> How did you find yourself in this for your friend's man?
>> She said it's cuz it's Yeah. They were in a weird and then they broke up. Okay.
Just cuz they broke up doesn't mean it's for you to come in.
She's so that door open. She wants to close.
>> No, babe. Like Suzie Faga, that's why I'm like, this is just you're finding yourself and becoming maybe the true version of yourself. I don't know. But you're becoming a version of yourself that is not good in this situation. And I don't like how you speaking about your friend and this man because you want to be with him. So you're only speaking about them in this way because Wena, you'd like to be subbed in.
>> So it's like, do you believe these things? You're just saying that so we can be on your side.
>> 100%. We not on your side. We can't be on your side.
>> We're not going to be like your adviser to leave him because the the the toxic relationship that you No, man. You want them to be not together so you can be with him. Like be honest.
>> I'm so brother. Yo, my pain is frozen.
>> You need to be honest, Queen. Go J.
>> Sure.
>> Your your intentions are not pure. But let us know what you guys think in the comments. Literally. Okay, last one.
Heyies, I've been with my boyfriend for over a year and our relationship has been nothing short of incredible from the day we met. He's been paying my tuition fees and generously gifting me a monthly allowance of plus - 15,000 since I'm unemployed. Great, right? So, here's the dilemma. I don't like nor enjoy the course that I'm doing and I have been wanting to pursue a career that would let me travel the world while still getting paid. I had already done all the necessary research to know what I would need to do to penetrate that market.
It's just something that I've always wanted to do for years as a bit of a side quest for a year or two while still in my 20ies. Both him and I have agreed that we would not be in a long-distance relationship when we were still getting to know each other, which I still stand by. If I were to leave, that means it would be the end of my relationship.
Also, when deciding to pursue this career now, I would have not finished school, and that's something I would like to accomplish also while still in my 20ies. But I strongly feel it's not my path. I just want to walk on stage and be a degree harder fuzz. Also, I do not know what might happen between me and him, between him and I, or our relationship if I let that be my reason for staying.
I want to build something for myself outside of him. And he's been very supportive of that by putting me through school so if we were to come to an end, I would still have something to fall back on. So, I did, do I leave him and school and pursue of traveling? Do I stay in the relationship, finish school, and then maybe try my best to pursue that after, even if my chances of getting in are slimmer? also risking letting it seem like I was using him, of which I'm really not, or just let go of the dream and desire itself. By the time I complete my degree, I'll be 27/28 and I feel that's the age where people start taking life seriously. Would love to hear your thoughts. Kind regards, anonymous.
Let me be honest, anonymous, you better go to school and get that degree before you do anything else. Because I feel like specifically if you're at a place where this person is letting that financial load not have to go on to you, all you need to do is get your degree, even if it means you have to change your course and do something that maybe you like better. I honestly think you should start with school traveling because 27 28 is not old. Like I feel like you're saying people start taking life seriously as if son there's no more traveling at 27. At 28, >> you can literally travel at 28. And yes, you're saying the chances are slimmer, but they're not, it's not impossible.
Lots of things happen. You're still in your 20ies. You're still fresh. I honestly, that's my advice to you is to stay in school, get your degree, walk across the stage, do everything else after. And this has nothing to do with the relationship element of it because I feel like keeping yourself in a country because you're not going to do long distance with your man is ridiculous.
Like, you're young, you're in your 20ies, you should do the things you want to do. Don't let go of the dream. Still do it. However, I think everything has its own time. So, you can definitely finish studying, stay in school, Barbs, >> AND THEN LIKE STAY IN SCHOOL, BARB. And then >> also like the the whole idea of making a decision based around you, man, is also it's not >> it's not something I can get behind. But Zama's right. I was going to say as well, do everything that you say you want to say. Forget about the timeline.
Forget about the aging. Do everything that you set out to do. Work will life will work itself out. And also your partner should support you in all your endeavors. So finish school, stay in school, Bobs. Like someone said, when you're done with that, you'll do your traveling thing. You should do all of that with your partner by your side. If he's the right partner, he'll stick beside you and support your endeavors.
And also at some point, you'll do the travel thing, finish that, and then you guys start your lives together. Like it's not it doesn't have to be the end.
So I feel like do everything that you want to do with your black king beside you.
>> Yeah. And even if cuz you guys said you had the conversation of you'd never do long distance, then if the relationship doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
You guys might have to just find your way back later if that happens. But it shouldn't be in your 20ies a thing where you're not going to go and pursue your dreams abroad because of a man. For me, that doesn't make any sense because when you're not going to get your 20's back.
So do what you need to do for your future self. Now >> 1,000%. So let us know in the comments what you guys think. Moving on to music.
This is where we tell you guys what we're listening to, what the besties are listening to. We have a playlist on Spotify as well as Apple. What do you listen to ZX?
>> So this week I'm listening to it's an older song, but I've fallen back into it.
>> Old but golden. It is local song. It is Muzi and something. So love it so much.
>> You definitely know it.
>> I do know it.
It's such a cute song. And then the other song that I listen to is Hijacked by Scissor. It's from I think it was her first album. I love that song.
>> Love that song. Done.
>> Oh, early Suza.
>> Yeah, she's my queen. So, yeah. Listen to that song.
>> I hope she's coming.
>> I'm like, please rocking the daisies. I promise you if you guys bring scissor, I'm going to be there >> once again. We will be there and boys can also be there.
>> No, no.
>> Getting into what the boyies are listening to. I'm back on my Zoom this week. We have Jack Jack Harlo, Monica.
And I remember Gilles said that I was listening to this album. Even this comment said, "Lie, listen to the song."
So, she's like, "Even the comment said, "Lie, please listen to it." So, guys, I'm going to listen to it because clearly it's important. Her faves are trade places as well as all of my friends. So, I will get into it this week. Maybe be my musings next week. My music this week, mine is local is Leer.
I'm listening to the SN project. There's volume one and volume two. They're both great. They're just like four songs each. It's R&B, neo soul, jazz vibe. He also was announced that he's going to be performing at Once Upon a Time. So, I'm so excited.
>> His name SN >> the SN project.
>> That's his name.
>> That's his name. So, thank you again.
>> Oh.
>> So, yeah. My favorites are yours and Pantoine. I hope I'm pronouncing it right, but those are my jam. So, if you like local music, jazz, R&B, neol, that's your vibe.
>> Awesome.
>> Thank you. and show me. This was so cute.
>> Oh, I love >> Oh, a little cookie. Cheers.
>> Let's do a little wish to boy, son. What is your wish for boys?
>> My wish for boys is more success, more conversation, more community, more unity. I wish that we can be great business partners forever. I wish for open communication between us, understanding, and just never begging down. never begging.
>> No matter how hard it gets, we must remind each other of the goals that we have, the reason why we started this, and to go forth, hence faults.
>> I honestly feel like I have nothing to add to that. That was brilliant.
>> I hate that.
>> You kind of hate that. I don't want to hold you. Do you want to blow out? Let's cl >> to us. And it's your birthday, too, if you're watching, cuz you're a busty. And if you aren't subscribed, it means you're not aie. And you should become a [ __ ] >> You should be a birthday present.
>> It's us. IT'S JUST ACTUALLY MIDNIGHT QUICK. 100k something.
>> SOMETHING LIKE >> SOMETHING. Just a little 100k for the girls. But guys, thank you so much for everyone who has made it this far in the video. If you have, I want to see cakes and candles in the comments. Okay, to wish happy birthday. Thank you so much to everyone who has joined us on this journey. We can't wait to see you guys for another year, two, three decade decades of because we said so. If you haven't already, as we said, don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe.
If you guys are listening to us on Apple Podcast and Spotify, we will never forget you guys. Thank you so much for listening. Please don't forget to give our podcast five stars again. Don't forget to keep sharing our stuff, guys.
Don't forget to keep commenting, engaging. We love to see it. And of course, we will see you guys same time, same place. We actually have something very exciting coming next week.
Actually, you guys are going to love it.
So, stay tuned. I'm excited. Literally, we're about to have a ball. A little gift from us to you. Something light.
>> But yeah, we'll see you guys next week.
Bye >> bye.
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