Our first two weeks with 2 under 2, Mother's Day gift ideas & is “dad brain” real?!

Added: 2026-05-07

[00:00:00]I can hear him.

[00:00:01]>> [laughter] >> You can hear Rocky?

[00:00:02]>> Yeah. Okay. Well, we have Rocky in the studio.

[00:00:05]He is he's hanging. Is this Rocky's uh did Rocky come to the studio before Tate? Has Tate ever been to the studio?

[00:00:12]>> Yes, she was here when we moved in.

[00:00:14]Okay, so she's had one appearance.

[00:00:15]>> Yeah. So, they are they are at one one to one. So, we have Rocky in the studio today, Jewels in the studio today, and Alex as a listener in in the studio today.

[00:00:29]But, once again Well, I have a mic. I will be hosting. [laughter] And here we are.

[00:00:36]What how do I start this off again?

[00:00:40]>> [laughter] >> Harrison, come on.

[00:00:42]>> Welcome back to another episode of Two Parents and a Podcast.

[00:00:46]>> Good job.

[00:00:47]>> Featuring one parent on camera and one parent off of camera.

[00:00:54]Correct, cuz I'm here I'm holding the rocks.

[00:00:57]We got a lot of stuff going on.

[00:00:59]And I think the way we'll start it off, we'll give the IRL rundown, and then talk about really what the first two weeks of of 202 is like. I'm giving you some notes on breastfeeding. Okay.

[00:01:14]But, I think like most things where and then we'll get into uh get into >> Well, I've given you notes on bre- Wait here.

[00:01:21]>> get into some Q&A and then >> [laughter] >> she's just a natural. She's just a natural.

[00:01:25]>> I really knew what when Alex was coming, I was like >> [laughter] >> No, I'm not going to talk.

[00:01:31]>> we were I'd like this is all you. It's what you want to do. It's all on what you want to do.

[00:01:36]>> I just want to make sure we give the listener the notes that I gave you about breastfeeding and how I've been feeling mentally. I just want to make sure we give that.

[00:01:44]>> Perfect. And we will make sure that all of that is covered because what you want is most important.

[00:01:49]No.

[00:01:50]>> And then we'll get into some Q&A and then a couple things that uh couple things that Jewels and I DM'd each other because Things we DM'd is featuring her and I this week.

[00:01:59]>> Have I been cut out of the DMs?

[00:02:02]No, you're there. Oh, [laughter] trying to keep it to I'm really not on my phone a lot. I think everyone One thing that I'm doing when I pump in the middle of the night and whenever I just all day is I'm reading a book now and I'm not scrolling.

[00:02:15]What book are you reading? Next to Heaven.

[00:02:19]That sounds like a religious book. It's the it's very much so like fictional It's really good. I don't know how to describe it.

[00:02:30]>> Okay. I don't know the genre.

[00:02:32]>> It's funny, it's like at this point like why not just have a camera on you?

[00:02:35]I look like I just I mean, I don't care.

[00:02:38]I got I got to get care less if we have the camera on me. It's just Okay. So, I look [laughter] like >> Let's let's keep building off of that and She looks great.

[00:02:48]And you know, you look amazing. Thank you.

[00:02:50]>> You truly do look amazing. But, I I would not say I would I would not say I look camera ready.

[00:02:56]Okay, Harrison's not going to say that.

[00:02:58]I'll say it. I don't look camera ready, but [laughter] thank you. Agree to disagree.

[00:03:02]Um So, why don't we start off with the breastfeeding? And I hate to do this, but I feel like there is no one better to talk about your breastfeeding journey than yourself.

[00:03:15]Okay. Well, I will say everyone tells you with the second baby that you make more milk and I was like, that won't be me. But, I'm definitely making more milk, which is amazing. Like we already have a freezer supply. But, with that comes more pain, I would say, because your boobs fill up faster and bigger.

[00:03:36]And so I I had to get new bras and I've ordered like new tank tops and things.

[00:03:40]And it's just like a little bit more painful, but I don't have deemur, which is really nice.

[00:03:46]And if you don't know what deemur is, that's the thing that I had with Tate, which is like when you get a milk let down, it can show up in different ways, which sometimes is um you get like a wave of sadness, you get a wave of thirst, you get a wave of anger. It can be all these different things. For me, I just had a wave of like flatness. And I would just be like, oh my gosh, what's go- like I just sort of a daze is how my deemur showed up. I don't have that this time. And I'm actually enjoying breastfeeding and pumping at this moment. We're 10 days in? How many days? 11. This is day 11.

[00:04:16]So, that's that's my 11-day intake. Will I be enjoying it in 2 weeks? I don't know. But, right now like the pump is not my enemy. Breastfeeding is going really well. Um He's a good latcher. I'm making a lot of milk, but when I start to get up and out of the house like will that start to drive me a little more crazy? I don't know. So, stay tuned. But, Harrison and I did Google last night. Can you hear him breathing?

[00:04:40]That's so cute. Um >> [laughter] >> I can hear it. It is really cute, though.

[00:04:44]>> Oh, he's just drinking a bottle and like cooing or snorting kind of.

[00:04:48]But, we Googled last night. So, I don't know if this is accurate or not. But, for the first 6 weeks, don't mess with your supply. So, like leave it be. And then if you want to sort of wind it down a bit after that, like pump every 5 to 6 hours.

[00:05:02]What you do is you don't pump to completion. So, you just pump to get relief. Maybe it would be like 10 minutes and then you could sort of slow your supply that way. So, that might be something I do, but it's looking like the pumping will go on for 6 weeks at least.

[00:05:16]>> I was going to state my observation, but I think much better coming from you on like how it feels second time versus first time and are you a lot more comfortable?

[00:05:28]Are you a lot more confident?

[00:05:30]Overall, just Yeah, I think I'm definitely I'm definitely more confident and it's so much more it's so much less unknown. Um and it's easier this time around right now.

[00:05:48]Um and I'm just throwing the pump on and I'm enjoying reading my book while I'm doing it. Like I'm enjoying it right now. And if there comes a time where it feels like a job, I'm going to reassess.

[00:05:58]But, and it will. I I'm not going to do it for 6 months to a year this time. I can I can already say that. But, as of right now, it's going well and the only thing is this.

[00:06:10]I think I'm hungrier this time than I was last time.

[00:06:13]I have been ravenous and meat doesn't sound good, protein doesn't sound good.

[00:06:19]The only thing that sounds good is like overnight oats, um pancakes, the peanut butter. My friend Olivia made me these lactation bites, brownies, cake. That's the only thing that sounds good. So, and I'm eating just trail mix with M&Ms in it. Like I'm eating a ton of that and I feel like I can't get full, but I do think it will level out.

[00:06:38]Well, you're doing a phenomenal job. We have a ton of milk, which is great. It's nice to not be What what happened with Tate was I was bottle for bottle. And somebody messaged me and said you need to reframe. You weren't a just enoufer.

[00:06:49]In fact, your body made everything she needed, which was which is a really sweet way to look at it. But, said differently, you're always on the hook for the next bottle. And with him, I mean, we got plenty.

[00:07:01]What did What Sorry. What did you mean by the six week You said something about 6 weeks that you might be pumping until 6 weeks? So, what we what we read about last night was basically don't mess with your supply for 6 weeks because it can cause like engorgement or mastitis. Like you can get an infection.

[00:07:20]>> Oh, so just make what you're making for 6 weeks.

[00:07:23]>> Is I think that that that may not have been shared. Alex uh had was cons- had was concerned that she was producing too much milk.

[00:07:34]>> And it was like >> And so the question is, uh-oh, I'm producing too much milk every 1 to 2 hours. Like I now need to put them on the boober pump. What what do I do about it? And so we went to Claude and that that is what was learned.

[00:07:48]>> Okay, that's what I was confused on. So, you're going to just stick with how it's going for the 6 weeks and then you can make adjustments after that if you need to. Yes, because there's a way, Jewels, when when you're pumping and stuff that you can kind of adjust your milk supply.

[00:08:00]You can scale it up if you need to, you pump more. Or if you want to scale it down, you can pump or feed less. Cuz your body may Every time you drain, it signals to your body you need more milk.

[00:08:09]Make more milk. So, if you go 6 hours without pumping or breastfeeding, your body says we don't need to make as much.

[00:08:15]So, I was saying, should I start to do that? And what Claude said was no, cuz then you can be at risk for engorgement or mastitis, which is like a bad inf- It feels like the flu.

[00:08:24]So, they're saying, don't touch it for 6 weeks. Let your body do its thing and then you can start to adjust.

[00:08:29]>> Okay, that's what was missing.

[00:08:31]>> And the main adjustment strategy that they shared was Pump to relief is what it was called.

[00:08:39]Meaning, right now I pump 20 minutes, but I feel relief after 9 to 11 minutes.

[00:08:45]So, I could just pump for 9 to 11 minutes and that wouldn't be a full drain of the milk and then my body would say, okay, let's make a little less. Got it. So, the other big development over the past week is uh Alex has started to want to go for walks. So, we've been going for walks.

[00:09:03]And there were two uh two subject two pieces of subject matter from our walk today that I think was worth discussing that were not on the docket. The first is our anniversary as we are claiming [snorts] our official anniversary date, which I think is an unconventional way to do things because we are using our anniversary date, which is the day we met and the day we went on our first date, not the day that we officially signed our marriage license.

[00:09:33]We didn't really talk about this at nauseam and and so I want to ask you why.

[00:09:39]Because to me, like that is when our love story began.

[00:09:43]>> Okay.

[00:09:44]And that's a very significant date, November 4th, 2023, because nothing was the same >> Aw.

[00:09:53]>> from November 4th. I I >> And I think that most couples don't have a clear-cut start date like that and we do and so that is what feels right to me. Are you not on board with that? So is that a No, I'm fully on board with it. I just didn't feel like we flushed out the conversation but then it was funny cuz I had my friends Maggie and Tony over earlier today and one of them was out there like when did you know? And I was like I know this sounds so crazy but I knew the day I met him.

[00:10:21]As did I. As did I.

[00:10:24]You did?

[00:10:25]Know that I was the one for you? Oh yeah.

[00:10:27]>> [laughter] >> I knew. Jewels.

[00:10:32]I'm leaving that in. Good. Please.

[00:10:34]Please. We're going to have a no cut podcast. Probably.

[00:10:40]Is it? What what patriots are we? No idea.

[00:10:43]No idea. It was a Saturday in 2023.

[00:10:46]That's what I was just That's why I was looking it up cuz I was wondering what day it was this year if you could potentially do your wedding party that day.

[00:10:54]It's a Wednesday. Yeah, we we looked at that.

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[00:12:50]So how we're feeling on family size 2 weeks in. Oh this is the I think we talked about this morning. I see what you're saying. Do you want to go or do you want me to go? You go. You're this is your podcast. I know but now you're sitting here I feel like I should be I should be passing passing the mic over. So I think we told the story on last week's episode how we were driving Did we tell us how when we're driving back from the hospital we talked about like hey does this feel like it's it in terms of kids or No. Okay. Well then we'll get two stories here. So when we were driving back from the hospital on Tuesday Alex and I both looked at each other and we're just like do you think this is the last time we're going to do this? Like Like are we done with two? Are we done with two? What's your gut instinct telling you? And both of us were just like we are so happy. We are loving this moment.

[00:13:47]We also we want more.

[00:13:49]Two Yeah cuz I think that you when you know you know and you leave and some people say that they they thought they wanted three kids they had two and they just felt so complete and And while our family feels very complete. Yeah. It feels like there will be more and we want more.

[00:14:07]Correct. God willing correct. And um now 2 weeks in the conversation today which obviously was led by you being told by me was like that that third feels like I I don't even know how to say this at this point. It's hard for me to talk when I feel like it's kind of your something that is your call. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know what you're saying but I think that So wait I'm sorry. What are you wanting to say? That I said that we can definitely do three and I might do four.

[00:14:44]Yeah, I guess it's kind of it. Because this is the way So just just because pregnancy is so hard on me and like I do Like I find out I we were talking about this. I find out I'm pregnant at the three-week mark because I get this just like flat depression blah feeling and hunger. Like remember I start to crave just like crackers and peanut butter and it's I'm two for two on this and then it's just like I find out I'm pregnant so early and so you have so long to go and it I I I don't enjoy being pregnant although I'm thankful for it it it overtakes my body and you know once you have the baby you're not it's not like you have the baby and you just pop back to your normal self. So you know you take a long time out of commission and so what I was saying is I could definitely do three and then we're going to reassess on the fourth but probably I'll do three and then maybe take like four or five years and then do the fourth. We'll see. Yeah. We'll see.

[00:15:43]It's it's the the this is dreaming but I don't know. I don't know.

[00:15:48]And and I think that was like the first time we've ever discussed that concept of of an age gap of a large age gap in between in between the kids and I think we both kind of it felt like we're on that same page of you know when we start trying again.

[00:16:06]Well I always say it's a it's a short-term loss of you know doing things and being productive and having a pep in my step and for a long-term gain of having these kids that we want. Totally.

[00:16:20]Well totally isn't a fair thing for me to say but I support you.

[00:16:25]So Jewels help me here. Where I guess are we good on are we good on that? We good on the kid thing? I think so. Okay.

[00:16:35]So ultimate conclusion I don't even know.

[00:16:41]>> [laughter] >> That was it. We don't need a conclusion.

[00:16:44]That was just a that was just where our head was at. That is the latest update on on kid thinking.

[00:16:50]Where where do you think we take it to from here Jewels? Well Alex texted this morning about her push present and Mother's Day gifts. Oh. I would love to not talk about the push present.

[00:17:02]Okay well I'm getting a lot of questions about the push present so we're going to talk about it because Well what you want we get. So Perfect. Yeah. I've seen her DMs. She got a lot of questions on it.

[00:17:12]Correct. I think a lot of people are asking A lot of people are asking me about a couple things right now so I just wanted to to do some housekeeping here. And do you want me to take the push present? You can take the push present and then I Don't let me forget Mother's Day presents cuz I have just a couple ideas for guys listening or moms if you don't know what you want. At some point Alex sent me a link to a bag. I think it was in January. It was. And it was before I believe it was before it launched and it was just announced or something along those lines or maybe it just dropped and um she was just like I love love love love love this and I was like she rarely like stakes her a flag on an item that she's super into and then she referenced it like very shortly after and I was like you know what? I'm going to get this and I'm going to save it for a special occasion.

[00:18:05]Um >> [snorts] >> if I try to like go back to that exact moment what did I have the push present in mind?

[00:18:16]I'm not exactly sure. I think it was probably the leading candidate for when I would have given it to you but you're such a hard person to get a gift for.

[00:18:25]I saw it as like okay this is something that she like obviously really wants so let's go and and um and you know whatever. Get it. Get it. Have it in storage.

[00:18:40]It was Yeah I have two questions which is where did you store it? In right in front of her face. Yeah.

[00:18:46]Right right it was stored right beside where she works out in a box.

[00:18:51]Oh. Yeah, she looked at it every day.

[00:18:53]But not it wasn't in it was in a brown box. It was in a brown box.

[00:18:58]Yeah. And then I understood what you meant by the color but the color's so good that he I think that cuz I recently The color's very pink. I I recently sent him the same I recently sent him the same bag in blue.

[00:19:11]And I was like I just love that I don't know what I it's called a speedy something. I love that top handle bag that they make.

[00:19:19]I would much rather have it in pink.

[00:19:20]It's so cute in pink. I love it. I just love it. I just didn't see blue as your like color if that makes sense. I love it. I I don't need I just didn't think you'd get as much use out of it. And I don't need to do blue just because he's a boy like that doesn't exist and I love the pink and I'll give this bag to Bubba and I'm obsessed with it. So thank you so much.

[00:19:39]So so much. You you deserve it. I'm just very happy that you liked it cuz it was well beyond the return window. I absolutely love it.

[00:19:48]>> [laughter] >> I absolutely love it. Like I was so excited. But I love bright colorful bags like that.

[00:19:54]On Mother's Day. Yeah, this is so much fun that you are here. Because what I was talking to Jules about yesterday, and we won't get into Mother's Day. And part of my confusion around recording this episode is I don't talk to the audience. I talk to you, and there just happens to be a mic here. Like some podcasters, I feel like talk to the audience.

[00:20:16]>> Right. I have no idea how to do that.

[00:20:19]And so even just having you in the room is making this um a a lot more fun.

[00:20:24]>> You're just a guy that chats.

[00:20:26]Well, I do feel like it what this podcast is is a lot of you and I's typical conversation.

[00:20:33]Just being recorded. So No, I agree with that.

[00:20:35]>> more natural. And what I will say Mhm. is I'm not even sure if if this is what anyone wants to hear, but what you being on maternity leave has showed me is how much I enjoy doing this. Because right now I'm only recording We're only recording once a week, and I want to be recording twice a week. Like I had this date circled. Like this week has felt really long to me because I didn't get to record until Wednesday. Well, there's a couple things to say about that. Number one, we like we like we've really been loving the podcast cuz it's mutually beneficial with us and the audience. We learn a lot from you guys. And I hope that I don't know if you learn anything from us, but I hope that we you can relate to us.

[00:21:17]>> And enjoy it. Yeah, and enjoy it. Um But the other thing is I think we just love We love what we do, but on maternity leave, what I want to say is like I am enjoying not having to be here right now, being able to just stay at home and snuggle him. Because So the way our days work right now is Tate goes to Maria's, but they're going to Winnie's every day. So she's gone from 8:00 to 5:00 right now just while we get in the swing of things with him.

[00:21:47]And so from 8:00 to 5:00, we get to be in our little newborn bubble. And then at 5:00 it's really sweet cuz we go get her and we walk to the park or we do something as a family, and then that time's really sweet. So we're getting a little taste of both. Like we're getting the taste of the the family of four and we're getting the newborn bubble. And so I am enjoying just doing the snuggles.

[00:22:06]I'm staying in bed till 10:00. I'm reading. I'm sitting with my heating pad. We're watching shows. Like I think that that I think the newborn bubble doesn't last forever, and it's the sweetest time of your life. And so I'm really enjoying that, but I do agree with you. Like today I was like I do want to go go with you to record because it just feels like fun, but I don't want to put any pressure on myself to have to be anywhere.

[00:22:25]>> Yeah, and I really respect like the line you've drawn around what you will do and won't do from from uh a work perspective, and just know that that you're supported um no matter no matter what what route you take.

[00:22:42]>> My line right now is do what I want to do. If I want to do it, I'll do it. If I don't, I don't. I I'm I'm stunned that you're sitting here.

[00:22:49]But I didn't want to come last week, and today I was like, yeah, I think it's good for me. And you also you said like you you don't want to program like don't [clears throat] want to program. You don't want to you know, deal with a variety of matters, and you've held so firm on that.

[00:23:01]>> Mhm.

[00:23:03]But what got you here?

[00:23:04]But and then I'm enjoying being here because I was like my decision to come.

[00:23:07]And I think that whenever we start to record like this is a good break for me too cuz we're going to add a third episode, and I'll be like ready.

[00:23:14]Ready to rock and roll. Get things flowing.

[00:23:16]>> You said something before Oh, Mother's Day. I just had to do it really quickly.

[00:23:19]Number one, I linked to phone cases from BaubleBar. I think if you know Here's the hardest part for the guys. You got to figure out what kind of phone your wife has. Don't mess it up. Like really figure or just ask her like what kind of phone you have or go to her settings and it'll tell you what kind of phone she has.

[00:23:31]But I think if you got her this phone case with her name on it or your last name or your kids' names or something, really good gift. And then secondarily, I was going to ask Harrison for this, but I went ahead and ordered it for myself, and I'm telling you now because you need to press order now cuz it will arrive in time. BaubleBar, this is not an ad. I just like their stuff. Also makes necklaces that you can do one name on, two names on, or three names on. And I ordered one I used to have one that said um Jelly Tate and Harrison.

[00:23:59]But now we know his name's Rocky. So I ordered another one, and it's Rocky Tate and Harrison, and I think it'll be a really good Mother's Day gift. It It's a really like weird full circle moment just on the BaubleBar front because I probably heard about this company for the first time like maybe I don't know. Let's call it 7 years ago plus minus because you're going to have to bleep the name, but Mhm. is one of their early investors.

[00:24:27]>> Oh, really?

[00:24:28]>> Yeah. I think they're do Okay, so I was worried about the quality of the necklaces.

[00:24:34]Cuz I don't like when things tarnish.

[00:24:36]And what I love about their stuff, number one, it's light, so it doesn't hurt my neck. And number two, it's it's high quality for the price. Like I think they crush it. So great Mother's Day tips. The other thing I'd add is your phone case you got an R, a heart, and a T, which I think looks very good. Um A lot of people are DMing me how they get the heart.

[00:24:57]>> believe BaubleBar made a typo on your request and forgot the H, but that's okay.

[00:25:01]>> [laughter] >> You're the heart. Thank you. You're welcome.

[00:25:07]And you said to get your wife's name Don't do that cuz I remember you received some things not from Harrison with your name on it, and you're like, just put Tate's name on it. I'll wear it 10x more if it has Tate's name on it.

[00:25:18]>> Good call, Jules. So good call. I I love this phone case being a T and an R.

[00:25:24]>> Very obsessed with it.

[00:25:25]>> are great.

[00:25:25]>> Here, pass it over here, and I'll and I'll show it.

[00:25:28]There it is. Very nice.

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[00:26:45]So can we talk through your Mother's Day gift cuz I, you know, the way I had the push present locked in and dialed in?

[00:26:52]I got to be straight. I am completely blind on the Mother's Day gift.

[00:26:57]So am I.

[00:26:59]I'm a little upset that you ordered something that could have been a Mother's Day gift.

[00:27:03]>> [laughter] >> Well, I thought I could >> a little I thought I could sit here and type this out to him and explain to him the order and which one to buy and all this, or I could just do it. And they took Apple Pay, and I just said, I'm done. I'm buying it. So I bought it. And but what I want for Mother's Day, I don't know.

[00:27:19]I don't know. I think I'm going to have a I think I'm going to request a pair of shoes if I get to request cuz Bubba loves zapotos, which is what we talk about in our house. We've learned that you requesting is the best way to do it.

[00:27:31]Yeah. And so I think a pair of shoes.

[00:27:32]And you know what? If we don't find them because we have a lot going on, let's just go to the mall together, all of us on Mother's Day. And we'll get them.

[00:27:38]We'll take the whole fam. We'll go to lunch. I like I would love that.

[00:27:41]Cuz I would also love a spa day, but realistically, I'm going to plan that for myself next Friday.

[00:27:46]So [snorts] And you've also taught me you don't like services as gifts. You like physical things as gifts.

[00:27:52]>> Yeah, cuz I'll book like I know what HydraFacial I want. I want to book it when I want to go. I don't want to be away from you guys on Mother's Day. I want to be with you, so I do feel like that is that is a very nice Mother's Day. A brunch to uh to thoughtful shopping. That's That's my kind of Mother's Day. Some people probably love doing the spa. But do you need to give your wife your your partner a heads-up that that's the game plan so it doesn't feel like you forgot about it? Well, I think the nicest thing to do is have flowers and a card as like something to give, and then in the card say we're going shopping.

[00:28:30]But I kind of feel like you need to do that before Mother's Day, or else you could it would could feel like you forgot. Like almost you You know what maybe you do is you send a save the date. So you go to the post office, and you actually mail a letter, and it's a save the date, and it's Mother's Day, and you you say 11:00 brunch surprise, 1:00 p.m. shopping at your three favorite stores.

[00:28:58]Yeah, I think you could also if if the guy had a price in mind, he could do something with like a you could get like a Visa gift card. I don't know. If you're like, I want her to spend $100.

[00:29:10]Take her shopping for $100. I think you could give her that in cash or I don't know. A lot of places don't take cash. Something like that. I think you could do it with the price.

[00:29:18]>> do cash as gift. I agree. I think you could do the Visa gift card, or you could do a Nordstrom gift card.

[00:29:24]And then say we're going to go spend this. Yeah, and even you go to Nordstrom's, you get the card. Maybe you don't even put the money on it, but it shows you when and you did the act.

[00:29:33]Yeah, cuz I do see what you're saying of like, surprise, we're taking you shopping, aka we forgot.

[00:29:37]>> Yeah. But I'm telling you just go Maybe we go together. Okay. Rocky is knocked out. He's [laughter] laid out.

[00:29:44]>> a snoozer. This a good >> bottle >> is happy.

[00:29:47]>> a snoozer.

[00:29:49]What's going on with his arm? What? He just had it tucked under his head. It's under his head, it's not wrapped around you? No, it's under his head. But he I I He's sleeping on it. He has been wrapping his arms around me a lot, which is something Bubba used to do and I loved it.

[00:30:03]It's the sweetest thing ever.

[00:30:04]>> like this is this is a a good transition into something that once again we don't have the doc yet. Which I think is talking about Mhm. I think talking about the dynamics in the household right now over over the first 2 weeks. And I think that one thing that has become quite prevalent is very much your taking the lead with Rocky and I'm taking the lead with Tate.

[00:30:30]>> Mhm. And it feels like there is an element of divide and conquer that that has been going on. Do you agree with that statement?

[00:30:39]>> 100%. Here's here's the main thing, too.

[00:30:43]For the first week week and a half when Mom is healing, well, heck, it could be depending on how bad you tear, it could be a month.

[00:30:51]And like I can't go take chase Tate around right now.

[00:30:55]So, me holding him is a really good use of my time and you can go chase her around and go run and play with her. So, yeah, I totally agree.

[00:31:04]And I I I think there's there's been a couple of of big learnings that that have gone on and I think some things that out of the gates we've done right and then some things that out of the gates that that we've done wrong and obviously like we're still super early into the to this, so it's fluid and changing and we'll make many, many more mistakes ahead.

[00:31:24]But I think one thing we did that Dr. Becky recommended that I love, but that I think we took too far, Mhm.

[00:31:33]was on the introduction of of Rocky to Tate. How we had Tate up to the hospital.

[00:31:39]It was only you and I in the room.

[00:31:42]We hung out as a family three. We then got him from the nursery.

[00:31:47]>> Mhm. And and then the advice we were given was really focus on also giving her her alone time. And so, while we are doing an element of dividing and conquering, what I what I think what we learned was that when we spend too much time apart, that flusters her.

[00:32:11]And she's happiest when it's the four of us.

[00:32:15]And so, while on that introduction, I think it was really important that that she didn't walk in on the three of us.

[00:32:22]It's it's really surprised me how much she loves being with the collective unit as opposed to just one of us. Well, I okay, yes to everything you just said. I I wonder if there's a cause and effect element here of the way she met him and was introduced to him set us up for success with that. And we'll never know. We'll never know.

[00:32:45]>> I stand by how we did it and for baby three, I very much think we should do the same thing.

[00:32:50]>> Totally agree. And Tate will be old enough then to understand a little bit more, but I agree that that's really important to do it that way. Like it's not just Mom and Dad in here with the baby. We're going to go meet the baby together. But what we did do with Tate where we messed up and it took us 3 days to figure it out. And by messed up, I mean we just we needed to iterate.

[00:33:09]>> Yeah.

[00:33:10]We were she understood that she had a brother.

[00:33:13]Bubba, Rocky as she says. We always say, "Who do you want to go see?" Rocky. She loves riding in the back of the car with them. She loves to go say hi to him. She likes to hold him for 2 seconds. She wants to give him a bottle.

[00:33:24]She understands when I'm pumping that that's Tatey for Rocky. Like she does not want us to shield her from the reality of what's happening. She understands and wants to participate.

[00:33:35]And we were trying so we over indexed on protecting her and easing her into it when you know, she just was like, "I got it.

[00:33:42]It's my brother. I have one. I have a brother now. His room is the blue stripes. I've got the pink one."

[00:33:47]Yeah, and and I do think if like part of the psyche that maybe going on in her head is Winnie had a Bubba. A Bubba. And she loves Winnie's Bubba so much and I think a lot of it she feels like she got a Bubba. It's almost like Winnie has a doll and she didn't have this doll, but she really liked Winnie's doll and we finally were like, "Hey, you got one, too." And so, she's so excited to have hers. to have this Bubba and you see it in the dynamic of how the four of of how Winnie is to Yates and then how she is to to to Rocky. Um I didn't give you enough credit for that. You said, "I think this will ease it for her." And I was like, "No, there's no way."

[00:34:31]I do actually think that's been the most helpful dynamic is she's she sees she's with Winnie every day. And so, she's with Yates every day. Yeah, so she just sees that there's two of them.

[00:34:41]And yeah, I think she wanted one and she's got one now. And obviously like that there will be highs and lows through this. And Of course it is just that.

[00:34:52]>> an a uh a a ton of love out of the gates and accepting, I I I'm sure that they'll that we'll overshoot on on the other side. And so, I don't want that to get lost. Like we still are, you know, not even really 2 weeks in here. Um Totally, but she doesn't go to bed unless Bubba goes to bed.

[00:35:11]Yeah, and and so, that's that's a good foray into into routines and how the the morning routine has changed and how the bedtime routine has changed because both of them for her have had very, very minor changes, but I think changes that that are landing pretty well.

[00:35:35]So, starting with bedtime start starting with with wake up. One thing that that Dr. Becky specifically called out for us is if there are things that you do with your son or daughter that are special bonding moments with each of you individually, do not stop them.

[00:35:52]>> Mhm. And I think on this podcast I've talked a lot about Tate and I's mornings.

[00:35:57]And um and so, those have stayed intact.

[00:36:02]That is really the only one-on-one time that is existing for long periods of time, but there is one major change and that is right when I wake her up in the morning, the first thing I now ask her is who do you want to see? Rocky or Mama? And she decides who she goes and sees first.

[00:36:20]>> It's always Rocky, which is No, but it won't but it's the sweetest That's all a mom wants.

[00:36:25]All I want is for this to go well and her to want to see him and every morning she goes, "Rocky." And then she comes and she sees Mama and she gives me a kiss and like then she runs back and forth between the rooms for an hour. And if you're wondering how Rocky's in his own room, the night nurse is still in there. Yes. So, our night our precious and I get a lot of questions about this.

[00:36:43]Has the night nurse started and are you loving her? She's fabulous. She's warm.

[00:36:48]She's on top of it. Like I feel so lucky. But she works she's working 10:00 to 8:00. So, Tate gets up at 7:00. So, Bubba is still in and I think this is help a helpful dynamic. He's still in his room and I'm in our room pumping.

[00:37:02]So, she doesn't wake up every morning and just see me holding him, which I think has been really nice. So, she goes in and says hi to Bubba and Diana. And then she comes over and says hi to me.

[00:37:12]Yeah. Yeah.

[00:37:14]Exactly. And then our morning go our our morning goes as as normal.

[00:37:20]With the caveat today as you alluded to like she legitimately spent an hour running between the rooms and opening the door and closing the door and saying hi, bye, hi, bye, hi, bye.

[00:37:33]And she would run into Rocky and and Harrison kept saying, "Do you want to go to the coffee shop?" She was like, "Nope." Today was the first day since we've been back that we did not go to to the coffee shop.

[00:37:43]And then on the bedtime routine, bedtime What or anything else on the morning routine? No. No. On the bedtime routine, so um the the big change going on here has been we had some struggles over the first couple nights.

[00:38:02]And I think what we kind of clued into was there was the dynamic where all four of us would be in the room and then we would leave to put her to bed.

[00:38:13]And I think that that was a tough psyche for her. Cuz she knew we still had Rocky. Of leaving the three and also Rocky is awake. She felt left out.

[00:38:22]>> And so, what we do now is I is Tate, Rocky, and I go and we put Rocky to bed.

[00:38:30]And so, Rocky goes we walk into his room, we put him to bed. She we put him in the Snoo. She loves hitting the Snoo button. So, we turn it into like the grand like, "Okay, we need your help."

[00:38:41]And then she hits it with authority. And then we leave the So, we put him to bed and then right when we leave that room, Alex goes in and grabs him and I put Tate to bed. And that has been going um that's been going quite smoothly over the past couple nights. And God out of the hedge, you're going to tell me not to, but we're still only a few nights here. So, things can things can turn quickly and we are well aware of that.

[00:39:08]But I think we're in as good of a flow as we can be from a routine perspective over over these first first 2 weeks. And very thankful for all the the help we've had obviously between the night nurse, between our families in town, and so on and so forth. No, I totally agree. I think you described it well. I have nothing to add. Now, help.

[00:39:26]I was going to ask about the Snoo, actually.

[00:39:28]>> Okay, let's >> Because I feel like you've said this like for the last 10 months of the only thing that could potentially go wrong is if the Snoo doesn't work with baby number two. So, I was wondering how it's going. We we So, we got home from the hospital April 21st.

[00:39:46]He He slept in the SNOO April 21st.

[00:39:49]And it was one of the first things I did and one of the first things I talked to our night nurse about was what I wanted to avoid was a habit of him only falling asleep in people's arms.

[00:40:03]And I was concerned that if we went the first couple weeks and over the those first couple weeks he was sleeping in my arms, Alex's arms, or night nurse's arms, that then getting into the SNOO could be tough.

[00:40:16]And so we had him in the SNOO night one.

[00:40:20]Does he don't get me wrong, he does a lot of sleeping on chest. He's sleeping on Alex's chest right now. I love having him on my chest, but when it comes to the night time he is he is in the SNOO from that that 10:00 day window.

[00:40:37]What So Was that Did I answer your question? Yeah. And he's taking to it well. He He loves it. Yeah, he does he loves the SNOO. Cuz I think that that was just a concern or like a A huge You said it on the podcast multiple times that that could rock you guys if not.

[00:40:50]>> And And And we're very We're very happy with how things are going on the SNOO and we use it for naps as well and it's been great.

[00:40:58]I I need to take a photo of just what he looks like right now. It's It's It is like maybe an all-time cute moment of his how snoozerlicious he is.

[00:41:08]>> Is he I can't see his face.

[00:41:09]>> You got to look at it. It's insane.

[00:41:11]That's a new word for you guys.

[00:41:13]>> Snoozerlicious? Uh that's [laughter] a new word. That should be the name of my album. Bieber's is swag, mine's snoozerlicious.

[00:41:19]Okay.

[00:41:21]What does your stand for?

[00:41:23]He's just such a good little boy. Do you have any um any new nicknames or sticking nicknames?

[00:41:32]I call him Ice. I I I got And Rocks.

[00:41:36]>> zero.

[00:41:38]Where'd Ice >> everyone Bears and so he's Rocky Bear.

[00:41:40]Mhm. I don't know >> everyone is a bear. I call him Rowey Powey Ice. I don't know why. I have no idea [laughter] why. Or okay, you know the song Walk It Like I Talk It? Mhm.

[00:41:49]I'll call him Rocket Like I Talk It.

[00:41:51]>> Oh, that's cute. I like I say I say that sometimes. Um Rocket Man, but yeah, anything like that. But Row Rowey, I like Rowey.

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[00:43:31]No. I think before we get into that, cuz I also I started something new last night which when you went to bed was I think a really really really good call out. What did you watch? But before we had the last thing on the IRL update.

[00:43:47]>> Okay, what is it?

[00:43:49]And that is Mhm.

[00:43:53]parent brain.

[00:43:55]Mhm. Jules. I did some research into this as well.

[00:43:58]>> to share the research? Do you want to Should I share the dynamic? Talk to me.

[00:44:03]No.

[00:44:03]Mhm.

[00:44:04]I want to hear the research first. Okay.

[00:44:06]The It's like actually really interesting, but the most interesting I guess the disclaimer up top is that they've not done any research on second time dad brains, but they have done second time mom brains. Okay. But essentially what happens when you have baby number one is mom loses 5% of gray matter and dad loses 1% of gray matter. And what your brain is doing for baby number one, it's like rewiring your brain to bond with your baby.

[00:44:40]Okay. For second time moms, their brains change again. They lose 3% of gray matter again.

[00:44:46]>> And what's gray matter?

[00:44:48]It is I I like it's the matter in your brain.

[00:44:52]>> space, right? It's just like actual But it's not it's they're not losing it.

[00:44:56]It's not being destroyed. It's being reallocated. So it's being reallocated to be able to bond with your baby.

[00:45:03]Okay, so in in saying your memory could get worse.

[00:45:07]I'll get there. Of what losing gray matter causes. Yeah.

[00:45:10]>> yeah. Losing gray matter causes forgetfulness and memory lapses, brain fog and trouble concentrating, feeling scattered on non-baby things. Cuz basically the the 5% that she had to focus on everything is going away and being focused on only baby things with the goal to bond with baby number one. For moms for baby number two, your brain is changing in a completely different way to help you be a better multitasker.

[00:45:39]Wow. [snorts] Interesting. That Interesting. Fascinating.

[00:45:43]>> I I saw something as well and I don't know if this is tied to it, but it talked about how when a woman gives birth, her brain becomes more efficient.

[00:45:52]It's try the Is so is that that dynamic?

[00:45:55]>> And the other So >> It's like It's like It's Having a kid is very good for your brain. And we have the audacity to argue if men or women are smarter.

[00:46:02]>> [laughter] >> And they don't So they don't know how it's changing for second time dad.

[00:46:06]They've never done any research on it.

[00:46:08]Uh um whatever. But the most interesting thing, the woman's brain starts changing when they're pregnant. The man's brain doesn't start changing until after the baby comes and the amount of gray matter that they lose is directly proportional to the amount of hours that they spend with their kid.

[00:46:25]Wow. You lose more gray matter if you are more involved and you lose less if you're less involved. Yeah. No, cuz cuz where where this this comes up is I feel like we hear a lot of this from the mom's perspective and rightfully so and and understandably so, but I the the the gray matter ordeal definitely lands on on the dad's side of well. I think the way it hits like the way I would I would put it into our our experience is very much like when you ask me to go and do something. So you're like, "Hey, do you mind going downstairs, getting the pump supplies, a glass of water, and overnight oats with some blueberries?"

[00:47:07]When I go down, like I'm not batting 100% right now. I'm getting the pumps, I'm getting the water, I'm getting the overnight oats, but I am forgetting the berries. And I'm going up there and you're very nicely reminding me that I forgot the berries and I'm going back down. But it definitely feels like there is an element of of fog here which obviously like if that's what, you know, just a the the average dad feels like, it only puts um puts more more credence Is credence the right word? As to what what a woman woman goes through. Well, I've just >> word? I don't know that definition of that word personally. I don't either.

[00:47:45]Well, can we look that up to make sure I didn't butcher it?

[00:47:49]I've just started texting you the list too, cuz like I know I can't remember anything. I can't remember what I ask you for. Yeah, you go up and you're like, "I don't even know." No idea what I needed, but um it does make a lot of sense because she Jules mentioned how it's like tasks outside the baby, too. And I find like if our room gets messy, I feel completely overwhelmed. And it's like, "You know how to clean your room."

[00:48:11]What does credence mean?

[00:48:12]Credence is a noun meaning belief, acceptance, or trustworthiness of something. So No.

[00:48:19]What what sentence did you use it Yeah, I I like didn't hear the sentence. I I I said that if if a if a guy if a man if a dad who who did nothing is experiencing this Do you mean cadence? It only like put it it puts in a perspective what mom is going through in a much grander way. What's the point I was trying to make?

[00:48:46]Whatever. I see what you're saying.

[00:48:47]>> It's fine. That doesn't doesn't doesn't sound interesting to y'all. So that's okay. No, I totally understood what you said. It And I think the Yeah, the opposite or for you it's like if 1% for me, 5% for Alex. Yeah. I'm surprised it's it's even that close.

[00:49:01]>> You forget the berries, she forgets the berries, the oats, the all of the things.

[00:49:06]>> I'm not saying you don't forget anything. You're a rock star.

[00:49:08]>> a lot right now. Okay. So are we going to move away from the baby stuff or do you want to do some Q&A and then we can talk about what we're watching first.

[00:49:15]You you talk to me, Jules. Give me some >> We'll do what you're watching cuz like you kind of gave a good teaser there.

[00:49:20]Okay. So we've gotten into as a couple we've gotten into Survivor season 50.

[00:49:27]So good. It took a lot of convincing. My sister put us over the edge.

[00:49:33]And when I say convincing, I've been trying trying her to watch and then finally my sister's like, you got to put it on.

[00:49:38]If Survivor is not on your radar, it it needs to be. Do you watch Survivor?

[00:49:43]>> No. I mean, there's a reason there's 50 seasons. It It's like on my radar, but I've never watched it. I know a lot of the main characters, like Boston Rob.

[00:49:51]What's the main guy?

[00:49:53]I didn't know any of them. I am having so much fun.

[00:49:57]I'm obsessed with Colby and and Aussie?

[00:49:59]Colby Donaldson. Do you know who Colby is?

[00:50:02]>> No.

[00:50:03]We looked him up. He's from Austin.

[00:50:04]>> He was season He was season two.

[00:50:07]I I remember when I watched season two.

[00:50:09]I was like, this guy is like he's the man.

[00:50:14]25 years have gone by. He's only gotten better.

[00:50:19]Like he has only gotten better. He has aged so well, but this means confidence.

[00:50:24]He just seems like such a good trustworthy honest caretaker. Yeah, he's just he he he's somebody you want in your corner. A man who looks you in the eyes, >> Mhm.

[00:50:37]shakes your hand, and you know you got a deal done.

[00:50:40]>> And he has a good handshake. Now, if he goes around and backstabs a bunch of people on the season, cuz we're like four episodes in, I will feel like a bit of an idiot, but we'll blame that to the game. That's who I think he is as a general person.

[00:50:53]>> you have Isn't it a game of backstabbing people?

[00:50:56]>> I I I want to I officially want to mark my claim that I want to go on Survivor.

[00:51:00]You've said that before. I think you should apply.

[00:51:03]>> But now I'm going to make a push. Okay.

[00:51:05]Okay, I want to get on this show.

[00:51:08]And I want to play the show the right way.

[00:51:11]>> [laughter] >> I don't want to go around and backstab a bunch of people on there. I want to go on there, and I want to I want to play it right. I want to play it straight.

[00:51:18]And if that gets me kicked off, that gets me kicked off. Well, I I don't know because Colby says he he had a nice cameo the other day or a green screen interview, and he said, all right, in real life, if you go through someone's bag, that is not good. We can't We cannot be doing that. In Survivor, if you go through someone's bag, I mean, you kind of have to go through it and see if they have the token thing. The immunity idol? Yes.

[00:51:38]>> Well, I wasn't paying attention to that.

[00:51:40]Yeah, so he's like, in in Survivor, you can do that. So, there is an element of how to play the game versus how you should conduct your life, and he he touches on that. He's like, you can't go through people's bags. But you But you still need to play it the right way.

[00:51:54]>> you can.

[00:51:55]And I think that that's where you got to find the line. Yeah, and I think he's doing that.

[00:51:59]>> And that's what I will do. Yeah, which is good. As I go. Okay, what season?

[00:52:04]What season do you want to be on? What season should we watch?

[00:52:06]>> No, throw a prediction out there for you.

[00:52:09]Well, they've probably filmed 51.

[00:52:11]I want to be on it in 2027.

[00:52:16]Okay. Okay. There it is. Are you going to apply?

[00:52:19]We Yeah, we're going to we're going to make this happen. Okay. We're going to make this happen. [clears throat] >> cannot wait to watch. So, amidst all the Summer House drama, back to what I'm watching.

[00:52:31]>> What are you watching?

[00:52:32]I got like the Summer House Amazon notification.

[00:52:36]Oh, you watched Summer House last night?

[00:52:38]>> it.

[00:52:39]Summer House season 1 episode 1. Wow, back to the beginning.

[00:52:45]And I'm not a Summer House watcher, but obviously >> Are Are West and Amanda and Ciara on that and Kyle? No. So, Kyle is on it.

[00:52:53]And the craziest thing is episode 1 is the Vanderpump Rules people going to the Hamptons. I only got like 12 minutes into the episode.

[00:53:04]fell asleep, but very entertaining, especially in the context of like now seeing where things are today.

[00:53:13]So, we'll see how many episodes I get through, but we're 12 minutes in episode 1. How many episodes are there? Or how many seasons are there?

[00:53:20]>> 10.

[00:53:21]Oh, wow. So, they're babies.

[00:53:23]>> So, Kyle's not even dating Amanda yet.

[00:53:26]>> No, he was hitting on Stassi, and he forgot her name. Okay, well, that's hilarious. Yeah, and she got so butt hurt. Got it.

[00:53:34]>> [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:53:35]Yeah.

[00:53:36]So, >> Wait.

[00:53:39]It's 7:38, 39, 40. 10:30.

[00:53:41]>> We're doing some quick uh feeding math.

[00:53:44]And what I will say on the What Do we have a name for the scandal that for the scandal of all that's going on?

[00:53:50]They were calling it Scamanda.

[00:53:53]Mhm, that's a bad name. I think so, too.

[00:53:56]The toast called it Westmanda Ball.

[00:53:58]Okay, love that. That's a good name.

[00:53:59]That's a good name. Westmanda Ball. I think they called it that. Great name.

[00:54:03]Westmanda Ball. My update there is I know there was a leaked recording. I did not watch it.

[00:54:08]>> Me, either. I was so mad about that.

[00:54:10]>> did not listen. I did not watch. I am waiting for the finale or for the I cuz to me, I want to see the whole context of everything. I need to see Andy Cohen in the mix. I need to see Like I need to see the video, and I want to respect the process. So, I officially did not listen. Yeah, but who do you think recorded it? Somebody that thought that they were doing something really cool, and I just I just thought that it was the loser behavior.

[00:54:37]>> Didn't they find the person? I don't know. Oh, they definitely found the person. Oh. I think it was that they were on production. Oh, it like sounds so crisp and clear that you're like, this is one of them with their phone just like sitting in their pocket while they're talking. It's crazy. I didn't listen to the whole thing, but it it's like it's shocking. Apparently, it was somebody that put their phone by one of the speakers. Mhm. Uh-oh. Not cool. Yeah, no, it's pretty crazy.

[00:55:02]Really like But now they can't like edit it down. Like they got to just put it out as it is.

[00:55:07]>> Wait, so the whole show was released?

[00:55:09]>> know how long It was a decently long chunk. I I made it through like a minute or two, but like it's non-edited, you know? That's just like the reunion could be so largely viewed, and for somebody to release that is like >> it's going to be more largely viewed now. I did, too. But is it Is it like illegal? It was Like they were Yes, like they were putting on season six.

[00:55:31]>> Like to me, that's a criminal offense.

[00:55:33]Like it's the owner of very unique IP around a large event where there's a ton of ad sales being done, a ton of investment, a ton of production. Like it's fully fully illegal, and there should be significant consequences for the person who leaked that.

[00:55:50]>> Well, there needs to be consequences so we can ensure it doesn't happen again.

[00:55:54]>> Well, there were like tea pages that were reposting it, and I saw a bunch of things that were just like, if you want to have a job in any indus- like any related industry moving forward, do not repost this clip because like one, Bravo's going to come for you most likely, and two, it's really frowned upon. I'm just glad everyone everyone took it as seriously as they did.

[00:56:17]And And can we talk about um Andy from Bravo? Yeah.

[00:56:24]Is Where Where do Where does it Cuz this guy feels like he's he's nailing it right now. [clears throat] >> the best. Who doesn't like him? Is it >> This Like is he good in the court of public opinion?

[00:56:34]>> Yeah.

[00:56:35]Who doesn't like him? From From a From a new From a newbie's perspective, this guy feels like he's got it going on.

[00:56:41]He's sharp. He like owns the network, but he's a character. He's also got a great parenting podcast.

[00:56:49]How did I not How do we not Did you know this? Now that she says it, I did, I think.

[00:56:53]>> We got to get a little pod swap going on. And we should.

[00:56:56]>> I'm I'm so goes back to how he mediates the after the What are the the lives? The lives?

[00:57:02]The lives?

[00:57:02]>> Reunions. Reunions.

[00:57:04]Just he feels like he's on a great path.

[00:57:07]>> reunion did you watch?

[00:57:09]Uh my show. My Craig show. Wait, people are having um Southern Charm. Who told me this?

[00:57:16]>> Shout out Craig.

[00:57:17]>> [laughter] >> My bestie. Someone's having a reunion a reunion watch party.

[00:57:22]Us need to be new new theater. But I haven't seen anybody in So, why would I know that? Someone's having a reunion watch party.

[00:57:30]>> to have a reunion watch party. And they're scheming it.

[00:57:33]Okay, done.

[00:57:35]Okay, I think that we should do that.

[00:57:37]>> How happy is Craig that all this is going on cuz no one's talking about Craig.

[00:57:40]>> went got my When I went and got my micro needling, yep, Jesse, she's going to a reunion watch party, a Summer House watch party, and I guess they have themed parties on Summer House.

[00:57:48]They're doing a themed party for the reunion.

[00:57:50]>> When is the reunion coming out?

[00:57:55]One second.

[00:57:57]Let's have a party.

[00:57:58]I would love to.

[00:58:00]>> [snorts] >> A watch party.

[00:58:03]Rocky Bear.

[00:58:04]>> And theme it. Oh.

[00:58:06]Oh, it was filmed April 23rd. I was like, oh my gosh. Um May 26th.

[00:58:10]>> That's a long time.

[00:58:12]>> No, it's a month away.

[00:58:14]Just feels like a long time. I I just do think this is my new vendetta against reality TV, and I think it's because I know we're on a way paired back, but we put things out so fast that that's the kind of content I like to consume.

[00:58:27]And like I don't want to wait a month for the I wonder I wonder And my prediction would be that eventually they're going to speed up the timelines.

[00:58:36]>> Yeah, I would rather have way worse production and unedited. I think that's the direction we're going to go. I've been doing a little spring reset with my closet lately, also a little shuffle of the postpartum outfits going in from maternity, etc. Focusing on more quality over quantity. I'm just building a wardrobe of pieces that are well-made, versatile, and easy to reach for every day, and that's why I keep coming back to Quince. I've said it from the beginning, I love everything that they make because it is truly elevated feeling fabric that fits are thoughtful, and it's not the price tag of the expensive designer wear, but it's the same exact quality. And the way they're able to do that is they partner direct with the factories. They cut out the middleman, and so they pass on the savings to you and I. And I'm telling you, men, also, the Quince guys wear is electric. Harrison has the coolest suede shirt with matching sneakers. It's all Everything Quince makes you guys is truly incredible and it's the kind of things you can throw on and instantly look put together. Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to quince.com/alex for free shipping and 365-day returns.

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[00:59:54]Lover's favorite thing to do is give it is give him lips. She gives him lips on the forehead.

[00:59:58]She just go right here.

[01:00:01]Okay. Sorry.

[01:00:02]>> have that like This is me not knowing about babies. Do babies still have that in their forehead? The little indent? Like up here? I don't know. Their skull's not fused yet, so he has a little bump right here. And you can't touch it?

[01:00:15]>> Right. There's just like fear-mongering that I was given in high school and that makes me so I can't hold Rocky cuz I'm afraid I'll break him.

[01:00:23]And it was touching the forehead and the neck snapping back. Yeah, it's very real.

[01:00:27]>> The neck snapping back is >> Scary.

[01:00:30]you got to be on it and he he is very movie for a baby. So, you got to be really careful with him. Like Tate was a lot more um still than him.

[01:00:41]I don't think that you would have had this at your all-boys school, but did you guys have fake babies in high school?

[01:00:47]>> We did. We did not. You had to like change the diaper and feed it, but the the tip was you took the arms and you tied them behind its neck so it keep the neck stable and then you wouldn't get points off for the neck snapping back. And that's where my fear comes from, I think. Okay.

[01:01:04]>> smart.

[01:01:06]>> [laughter] >> Good to know. Yeah.

[01:01:08]Okay.

[01:01:09]>> Um all right. So, what do we want to talk about now?

[01:01:12]What are the things we DM'd? I can pull this up. You want to do some some DMing?

[01:01:17]>> Can you tell the audience that we're going to save the Q&A for next week?

[01:01:20]Okay. Well, it feels like with the beautiful added involvement from Alex, we uh this episode's going quite long, and so we're going to save the Q&A for next week. So, please send over any questions you have What do you have to say?

[01:01:36]>> Instagram and I will I will look at them. We have voice notes. We have some voice notes we're reading.

[01:01:41]>> What? Yeah, we're really getting into it with you gone. So, this is a new segment I'm starting this week.

[01:01:48]Okay. Okay. It's not >> Without you.

[01:01:50]It's called It's called the tweet of the week.

[01:01:52]>> Okay.

[01:01:53]So, this is by someone named Abby Roy.

[01:01:56]A weekly jab in the belly is generating more revenue than the entire AI industry.

[01:02:02]Ozempic and Mounjaro 71 billion in 2025 revenue. OpenAI and Anthropic 29 billion in 2025 revenue. People would rather be skinny than smart.

[01:02:13]I'm going [laughter] to put that stone out. How funny is that?

[01:02:17]Is that insane?

[01:02:19]>> [gasps] >> Yeah, if you told me to guess, I don't know that I would have gotten that right. Um I thought when you said jab at the beginning, I was like boxing.

[01:02:26]>> And what I like about this new tweet of the week segment is I don't need to check the source to see if that was true because if it isn't true, that is Abby Roy's fault.

[01:02:36]I love that.

[01:02:37]>> Yes. Okay. So, thank you, Abby, for that. Well, what do what do you have to say about it?

[01:02:42]I think that that what it speaks to often is like the disconnect between hype between what's garnering media attention and what's happening in reality financially. You don't think both of these are garnering media attention? I feel like we're talking about them both a lot.

[01:03:03]Like I'm not I'm not shocked by the the two industries that we just talked about.

[01:03:08]Ozempic/GLP-1s as a whole and AI, I feel like are very prevalent in the past.

[01:03:14]>> is bringing in more than two times as much money as I think if you were to ask people the way the press writes about each one, people write about AI as a business.

[01:03:26]>> Mhm.

[01:03:27]People write about the health effects, positive and negative, of GLP-1s.

[01:03:34]Okay. Okay. Okay. When >> Not the business >> Yeah, there's not nearly enough coverage on what behemoths these are from from a business perspective. I guess is is kind of the more so the point I was making.

[01:03:49]>> [snorts] >> Um and the valuations of the tech companies are um The valuations from the tech companies are what?

[01:04:00]They're significantly higher than those of of the pharma companies. Okay.

[01:04:06]So.

[01:04:06]>> But the pharma companies you're now telling us are making double.

[01:04:09]In in revenue. I guess let's let's pull it up. Let's do some research here.

[01:04:13]Okay.

[01:04:17]While you pull that up, I I have switched to Claude.

[01:04:20]So, if I do this recently How's that going for you?

[01:04:24]I haven't imported my chat GPT history yet, which I think is important to me.

[01:04:30]Mhm. But I think I think it's better.

[01:04:34]They seem to like It seems to like know you better.

[01:04:37]Automatically. Sorry. What what You know I'm the worst multitasker in the world.

[01:04:40]>> Yeah.

[01:04:41]What did you say? It just speaks to you nicer. Claude? Yeah. It just seems smarter as well.

[01:04:46]>> Yeah, a little smarter. You know, my problem with it though is I I'll Google Claude and then I'll try to go to the >> Chat GPT is the number one. And then there's like five others that I've accidentally signed up for and I'll be so mad. I'm like, I've already signed up for Claude. So, they need to really do their SEO. That happened to me yesterday. There's Claude chatbot versus Claude. Yeah.

[01:05:04]>> Yes. Happened to me yesterday. It's really they they've got to get that.

[01:05:07]They need to be the first one that pops up.

[01:05:08]>> I agree.

[01:05:10]I finally got the app.

[01:05:10]>> I I I I think it's absurd that Google doesn't do a better job at uh at predict at predicting direct search like that. Protecting direct search like that. Oh, they sell it. They clearly clearly sell it.

[01:05:25]So, the market caps for All right. So, Novo Nordisk, let me get that wording correct.

[01:05:39]Yeah, Novo Nordisk owns Ozempic. Okay. Their market cap is 183 billion.

[01:05:47]And Ozempic is like 40% of their revenue to my understanding.

[01:05:52]>> Wow.

[01:05:53]Anthropic who owns Claude their last funding round was done in February at about 350 million.

[01:06:05]But to my understanding, today the shares are trading at around a trillion dollars on the secondary market.

[01:06:14]So, investors today are generally valuing it around a trillion dollars.

[01:06:17]Okay.

[01:06:19]Chat GPT is now trading a little below Anthropic on the secondary market. So, call it 750 billion.

[01:06:28]Give us the TLDR. Give us the And your takeaway is?

[01:06:31]>> And the Ozempic one was 183 billion.

[01:06:33]Yeah.

[01:06:35]So, the AI market cap, the valuations of the AI companies are five times that of the healthcare companies.

[01:06:46]Based off my quick So, this is different than the tweet.

[01:06:50]Well, that that's kind of the point of the We're now getting into a more confusing dynamic that I can >> Okay, imagine that I'm 10 years old and you have to explain this to me. I think the tweet [laughter] of the week is going to be retired. You think what?

[01:07:07]Just explain it to me like I'm 10.

[01:07:09]Okay.

[01:07:11]Like the dumb it down. Dumb it really far down.

[01:07:14]>> Let's do it.

[01:07:17]The GLP-1 companies >> Mhm. are generating two times Mhm. the amount of revenue as >> you all know what revenue means. as the AI companies. Who makes more?

[01:07:30]Sales. So, the GLP-1s are doing twice as many sales as the AI companies. Okay. Okay? Great. But the AI companies are worth five times the amount. Why is that?

[01:07:46]Because investors inherently think Got it. that the AI companies will at some point produce a lot more revenue and a lot more cash flow.

[01:07:58]>> are betting on them. Y- yes.

[01:08:00]>> Okay. Okay.

[01:08:01]Very interesting. We'll see where we land.

[01:08:04]>> that was our tweet of the week. I don't know how it went. Let us know what you think.

[01:08:09]Send us some tweets. Yeah, send us some tweets that you find interesting.

[01:08:12]>> I'm a big tweet I'm a big tweet guy.

[01:08:15]Okay. So am I, but our Twitter are very different.

[01:08:18]>> your Twitter, Jules? Um just like whatever I'm into that week.

[01:08:22]What does that mean?

[01:08:23]Oh, that's cool. Like a new show that's coming out that I'm really excited about and just like >> There's pop culture Twitter?

[01:08:31]Yeah.

[01:08:31]>> Yes. Oh, well, good to know. don't like this Netflix coming soon. I've been watching a lot of TV. I'm not into this coming soon part cuz you can't watch it right now. I don't want to know what's coming soon. Did you see that Netflix is going to introduce um short-form content?

[01:08:46]No, and what is that? Like Reels?

[01:08:48]>> Yeah.

[01:08:49]Man, we're just going everywhere these days. There's There's expect anything.

[01:08:53]>> Two parents in a pod soon to be available on Netflix.

[01:08:55]>> Just expect anything. That's what I've learned. Okay. Um so, Jules, you actually DM'd this on the TikTok clip.

[01:09:05]So, why don't you give us the rundown, please? Oh goodness. Okay, this this was a pod- I think we're going to need to insert the podcast clip. Let's do it.

[01:09:13]>> okay. And um so, insert that now.

[01:09:17]Zero to one, mom's life changes. One to two, dad is in for a big change.

[01:09:24]>> Dude, one to two, dad is like dad's on now. All the time. Yeah.

[01:09:30]My husband one to two is like No more. No more. His world was rocked one to two. Zero to one, I was like I got this. I actually don't need you.

[01:09:39]Bring me food, you know. One to two, I'm like take the big one. You got to take him. You got to take him. And and you have to be on all the time.

[01:09:46]>> Yes. And if the big one wakes up in the night, that's you, babe. I got the baby.

[01:09:50]Yeah, 100%. One to two's hard for dads.

[01:09:53]But essentially what the girls in the podcast kept they were mothers and what they were saying is that the transition from one to two just like absolutely rocked their husbands.

[01:10:05]They said zero to one I don't need you husband. Just bring me food is I think the direct line. One to two husband needs to to step up I guess for lack of a better word. And my first thought watching the clip and discussing with this a with a friend who is pregnant with her second was like your husband's just kind of suck.

[01:10:26]For lack of a better term because like it shouldn't you shouldn't need a second kid for the husband to finally be involved in the first kid's >> the the way this lands is just the ultimate delineation between was do you have an actively involved dad or uh an an an uh a passive dad. And I think if a dad is actively involved in a child in baby one's life then inherently they'll be um as well prepared as one can be for baby two and um and vice versa. So that and and I look at my friend group and you know, I I am very prideful that the mass majority of my friends who are dads are very involved dads. But those few [snorts] that aren't um I would assume that this phenomenon either did occur during baby two or will occur during baby two.

[01:11:19]So this was something my friend actually sent me this clip and we were talking about it while we were walking this weekend. But she had mentioned that one of their couple friends like they had this dynamic where like the dad wasn't very involved and then did need to step up but barely stepped up. But they said something to their couple friend. They called him out on it. And he um did kind of step up to the plate a bit after that. But I wanted to ask you guys like would you call out one of your friends if you felt like he was like leaving mom out to dry?

[01:11:51]So no, I would not call out one of my friends. But if I was in the presence of them See we don't really have this here in Austin. We have a lot of very involved dads. But if I was around So I would use us as the example. Like I would never be like oh uh let's say his name is Harry off of Harrison like oh Harry, why don't can you do XYZ you know, help her out a little bit cuz I would leave that to them. What I would do in front of them is like we I would say like we don't do that as a couple. Like we do 50/50.

[01:12:25]Does that make sense?

[01:12:26]>> You would be calling them out then.

[01:12:27]Okay, then yeah I guess I would. I I just wouldn't dim our light so that they felt comfortable. I would very much so just be like no, the way that we do things is 50/50 and Harrison's happy to do that and like that just is what it is.

[01:12:37]So I think that it could be we're assuming we're talking about the dad, right?

[01:12:42]Correct.

[01:12:43]>> And so I think that this that the question may be more relevant for me here cuz I think that in most cases I'm going to be closer with the dad and you're going to be closer with the mom.

[01:12:52]So you calling out the dad may feel more unnatural to you than if I spoke to the dad.

[01:12:59]>> Okay, I like I like your take there.

[01:13:00]>> of how I'm thinking about this is like if I had a good friend and that friend was noticeably dropping the ball on something then calling out isn't the right word, but would I discuss it with them? Yeah, but I would do it in a way in which it there it wouldn't make them defensive and it best position itself to land because I'd hope on the contrary that if I was dropping the ball on something that my friends would say something to me.

[01:13:34]And the way in which I think I would say it is like here's a very basic example.

[01:13:42]I would go to them and if if I was told that their partner was struggling by you or by their partner and they felt like hey, the load was too much. I'd be like hey, one thing I do on Saturday mornings is I take the kids out for a walk and for breakfast and I give Alex an extra three hours of sleep. And or that allows Alex to get an extra three hours of sleep. And I think if you did this for Julie, she may really appreciate it. And so I'd kind of take something that we're doing in our house that's having a lot of success where I talk about the positive impact it's having on Alex and share like I think that that be like are you doing that?

[01:14:23]Cuz I think that that Jules would would enjoy it. But I'm also only talking on like my close knit circle. I think sitting down and telling a dad like you're being a bad dad. I think that inherently is going to probably get met with or fall on deaf ears and create conflict and look at too defensive. So >> also don't know what they're going through at home. Like maybe they're so stressed at work and they're like they're maybe it's like so much deeper than that. So I do think that would just be a slippery slope anyways.

[01:14:54]Yeah, but I think it it's good for guys and girl moms, wives, husbands partners to to encourage their friends to to be their best versions of themselves and share what's working. I totally agree. I think in general that we would want that feedback, too. Mhm. One thing that I do think is good for guys to not do and girls, too is to bond over like Oh, I just want to leave the kids at home.

[01:15:22]>> know exactly what you're going to say.

[01:15:23]And then the other guy would be like yeah, like saying like I just want to leave the wife and the kids at home.

[01:15:27]Like I don't want to do this. Where it's like as opposed to being like no, I I love being like my favorite nights are family nights.

[01:15:33]Don't bond over negativity is what you're saying.

[01:15:35]>> Yeah, when it yeah cuz I think that that would not be how you really feel.

[01:15:40]And so I think that's always a slippery slope when it comes to parenting. Like one one Tik Tok the Tik Toks I don't love are just like the negative parenting talk. I love the ones that are like uplifting. Like I do love this.

[01:15:52]It's so fulfilling. Like this is such a fun chapter of life.

[01:15:55]And so I think conversations that um reflect that are are good.

[01:16:02]Totally.

[01:16:03]Love it. Um okay.

[01:16:06]Well hope everyone enjoyed today's hybrid episode.

[01:16:13]>> Yeah, it's a bit of a hybrid.

[01:16:14]If you're on YouTube, sorry. I just I >> great. You have nothing to be sorry about. I had to jump in and defend. I think it's great. I think do you if you're watching a podcast, are you even watching it?

[01:16:26]I'm mostly listening. I'm mostly listening as well. So people won't even know the difference. Amazing.

[01:16:32]Well, thank you for listening and We love you guys.

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