The REAL reason Kandee Johnson left the internet

Added: 2026-05-23

[00:00:00][ __ ] I'm 18.

[00:00:02]>> We're tired. We are tired.

[00:00:05]>> Grandma Candy's tabing out. Might just go back to my hotel room. I'm going to order in room service. Honestly, she's like, "And even the people that have wronged me, I forgive." I'm like, "Fuck you.

[00:00:14]>> You got to get me out of this. These girls are mean."

[00:00:20]>> Welcome to your favorite podcast is full coverage with your host Manny Mua and >> Lauren each other. Great.

[00:00:28]>> Yeah. Like I don't know why he does that.

[00:00:30]>> Okay. Today we have a very very very special guest that's near and dear to our heart. She basically is the founding father of the beauty community. Without her there is no beauty community.

[00:00:39]>> That's true.

[00:00:40]>> Candy.

[00:00:44]>> Candy.

[00:00:45]>> My self-confidence has just went >> as it should. As it absolutely should.

[00:00:51]We love you so much.

[00:00:52]>> Walking down the street yesterday. I'm like I NEED TO TALK TO THEM every day now.

[00:00:57]>> Yes. Please do.

[00:00:59]>> We love having you. Like we're Thank you so much for coming over. Like it's just it's been so long since we've like even seen you.

[00:01:04]>> I know. Like like since like p I don't know. Have I seen you since then?

[00:01:09]>> I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't think so.

[00:01:12]>> Beyond that.

[00:01:12]>> I was literally thinking of I specifically remember the exact time that I met each of you guys. Like I literally remember I think I might have met Manny first. I can't remember.

[00:01:24]>> And we were working on something. I don't know what it was for Revlon Lori or >> something like a project.

[00:01:29]>> Yes. And then uh this new guy that was like an agent assistant where I was at and he was like, "Yeah, you're going to be working with this guy named Manny Mau." And I was like, "Manny Mau, what a cute name." I'm like, "Is it like a cat?

[00:01:37]Like a meow thing?" And then we worked on it. You were literally so sweet, so humble, so kind, so fun. I was like, "I LOVE IT. YOU were so so great." I was like, you were just so much fun that day. We had so much fun. And I was like, "I love him." And you've never changed.

[00:01:55]Like you have been humble, kind, like you never ever ever you every time. And the same thing when I met >> where? Oh my gosh. It was at >> some beauty event.

[00:02:05]>> Yes.

[00:02:05]>> Did you We were not in LA.

[00:02:07]>> You didn't live here yet, I don't think.

[00:02:08]>> And it was like an outdoor thing. It was like a garden.

[00:02:11]>> No.

[00:02:11]>> Was it? No. It was at like a a beauty thing. It was an outdoor thing with like trees and stuff.

[00:02:17]>> And I remember I met you and you were just like the sweetest.

[00:02:20]>> Well, I'm like the number one fan. So I was only nice.

[00:02:24]Good. Only I said I loved you.

[00:02:27]>> An angel of baby doll.

[00:02:30]>> And you guys have stayed the same like never. You guys are the most humble, the most kindest.

[00:02:35]>> Likewise, girl.

[00:02:38]Anytime there were beauty events, I would just like gravitate. I was like, >> so did we. So did we. Trust. When I think >> I was like once you'd see like a familiar face, you're like, we're safe.

[00:02:48]>> 100%. I'm saying >> this is going to be a good night. This is going to be a good time now. I cannot wait to like get into this with you and like just like ask we have a bunch of questions that we want to like ask you and just dive in. But first we like to do peaks and pits before we start which is kind of like a fun thing of the week and kind of a negative thing of the week and it's a could be fierce or not fierce. Like it just depends on like what it is.

[00:03:09]>> Why don't you give us one of them?

[00:03:10]>> Right off the top of my head um well a pit would be uh my mom got like a fire alert that her house may be evacuated today at any point. So >> she's saying there's fires in California again.

[00:03:21]>> Yeah. It's like >> I've not even seen.

[00:03:23]>> Yeah, they were like calling phones and they were like sending out things and it's like really really really close to my mom's house. Like she's in the warning zone now but it isn't like active. So >> So there's a big active fire happening >> fire happening right now.

[00:03:34]>> I was like not fire like please.

[00:03:35]>> I mean it's I was like this is it's starting soon like >> like I've already I mean I'm sure you guys have been I've already been evacuated like two times.

[00:03:42]>> Evacuated with her.

[00:03:44]>> You did?

[00:03:45]>> Yes.

[00:03:46]>> And we live across the street with her.

[00:03:48]Just literally literally I'm literally like why am I getting back?

[00:03:52]>> The fire might stay on >> literally we had we had contingency plans. We're like okay if we evacuate we're going to my mom's house like literally we have to we were like just figuring out like along the way >> you have to map it because then when there's evacuation oh guess what every hotel everywhere is sold out. You have nowhere to go if you don't have a family member or a friend or I don't know even a random person is like hey bring your you and your animals here or whatever.

[00:04:14]>> Seriously? Yes. That's how it is. And then you don't know like I'm really good now. I'm like you got to get the photo albums, the laptops, your birth certificate, all that stuff and then some clothes for a couple days and and you may never see your home again.

[00:04:25]>> You may never Yeah. And you might be living in that outfit for like >> Yeah. months. So good luck. That's literally how it had to film something while we were like in LA, downtown LA, and I was like, I have sweatpants, a pair of Vans, and this like robe, like a kimono robe I brought. And that the it's up there. I'm wearing the stuff. Nobody knew. I had to go to like a blowd dry bar. I didn't have brushes or hair products. And I think I went and bought some makeup. I was like, "Okay."

[00:04:53]>> That was in January. Huh. During the fires in January last year, >> this was the old fires, the woolly fires. Even before that, I don't even know like when there was like happening like really intensely. Yep.

[00:05:02]>> You're like, which of the 20 fires?

[00:05:04]>> No, literally like the horrific fires that Yeah. There's all of them traumatized at this point. I' I've been driving through fires. Yeah. You're just awake. Like you're awake for days cuz you don't know. Checking that watch duty app like is it 3 in the morning? Okay.

[00:05:19]>> Watch duty [ __ ] Watch duty.

[00:05:21]>> Watch duty was like the non-stop watch.

[00:05:23]Forget TV. I was look at the internet just like watch duty. Watch same.

[00:05:27]>> It was watch duty only for days.

[00:05:29]>> I feel like it was a shell of those days. I just remember our Instagram.

[00:05:33]>> Yes.

[00:05:33]>> It was and then you're like power is out and you can't even showered cuz there's no water. You're like this is the weirdest.

[00:05:39]>> It's horrible.

[00:05:40]>> California just be out here just >> baby. It's a disaster. It is. It really is a disaster. That's a pit pit.

[00:05:47]>> So, that's a little bit pit and then a peek. I'm just thinking lightarted.

[00:05:51]>> Um, my daughter did my nails, so that might be a little >> They look I was looking at they look amazing.

[00:05:56]>> She did them last night. I don't know where there's a camera. She did like zebra pit nails. Look at that.

[00:05:59]>> They look beautiful.

[00:06:01]>> I know. She's 15 and she was like, "Let me do your nails." I was like, >> "And she can just do nails."

[00:06:05]>> Yeah, she got a little nail kit. She I had Well, I wonder where she gets all her talent and her creativity.

[00:06:10]that night.

[00:06:11]>> I wonder where >> it just seems [ __ ] it out.

[00:06:15]>> I was like, "You want?" She's like, "Yeah." She's I was so tired last night.

[00:06:18]She's like, "Just laid down." I was like laying down on the floor and I think I was probably falling asleep and she's just like doing my nails. I'm like, "This is great. I just could take a little nap and I get some nail stuff.

[00:06:27]Dude, that is so sweet. That brought me that brings me back like my mom like when I was practicing makeup for the first time ever and I was like, "Mom, I have to like practice makeup. I don't know what I'm And she would she would come home from work exhausted >> and she would literally just be on the couch like this >> and I would just practice on her >> and she would just let me even though she was like I'm so tired but I was like I was like just let me like please like just do your eyes and she was like okay >> please tell me you have photos of you somewhere.

[00:06:50]>> I know I don't have any cuz we didn't it was literally like we it wasn't like um something that I thought you were just practicing.

[00:06:55]>> I was just practicing just to practice and she would let me after work and I was like that like that's why it's like you're such a good mom because you've been tired as hell like you're doing >> like something for your kid you know.

[00:07:05]felt like it was a gift to me. I was like, "Aren't you tired? Do you want to go to bed?" She's like, "No, we are doing your nails for the podcast tomorrow."

[00:07:11]>> That's so cute.

[00:07:12]>> Oh, I love that so much.

[00:07:14]>> She grew up like that. Well, both my girls grew up knowing like all of you guys like cuz you guys were like in the same same weird little world that I was in, you know?

[00:07:23]>> Yeah.

[00:07:23]>> Very weird people being like, "What are you doing on the internet?" Then like everybody wanted to be a YouTuber and then everybody wanted to do like >> Tik Tok, everything.

[00:07:31]>> Video creator, everything.

[00:07:32]>> Yeah. Now there's like click clack, zingong, all so many apps.

[00:07:35]You know what? Please don't start a new one. I just >> I can't take it anymore.

[00:07:40]>> I have to tell you, you're I know so many people tell you this, Candy, but like I don't think I would have a YouTube channel if you didn't have existed. Like, you are the person that now people tell me that now. They're like, "Oh, you made me want to start a channel." And I'm like, "Oh, well, Candy Johnson's my person."

[00:07:59]That's the truth.

[00:08:00]>> And I have told this story on podcast and interviews everywhere. But my stepdad, I think it was god year 2011 or something like that. And he was trying to show me how he had this cord, which was just an HDMI cord, but he was trying to show me I can make the laptop show up on the TV screen. So he's like, "Let me just show you how cool this is." And I'm like, "Okay, whatever."

[00:08:21]>> That is very cool. That was very big deal.

[00:08:24]So yeah, right. So he was very ahead of the game, actually. He really was. He was into technical stuff. So he's like, "Let me show you what I could do." So I was like, "Okay, cool, cool, cool." So he just clicks on YouTube, whatever. I don't really watch YouTube videos at that time.

[00:08:35]>> He was watching YouTube at that time.

[00:08:37]>> There was no app on your phone. Like I still had a flip phone, I think, or like a slider or something.

[00:08:41]>> Watch on the phone. It was like built for computer watching.

[00:08:44]>> Okay. So we're in that era. So he just randomly clicks a video and it's your what's in my bag video. And from that day, I literally said I said, "Who is that?" He goes, "I don't know. I just clicked your girl's video right there and I was like, "Who is that?" Cuz you're candy. You have the rings and the [ __ ] flying out your back. JUST LIKE >> YES.

[00:09:06]>> I WAS LIKE, "GIRLS ARE DOING THIS." LIKE YOU WERE THAT'S THE first person I ever saw like besides like Jenna Marles and Cocker. But that's like comedy. That's like a TV show in a way. More like skits. Yeah. I never seen anyone like have their own show like you were doing. You were the first person I ever saw. And when I saw it, I decided I want to do that for the rest of my life.

[00:09:29]Literally watching that video, I was like, I want to do I want to drop out of college. I want to quit my job and I want to do that. And like I started filming. I never stopped.

[00:09:37]>> Are you joking me? IT WAS YOUR VIDEO.

[00:09:39]>> YOU never told me that story.

[00:09:40]>> I know. I've never told you. And I've told that story so many times.

[00:09:43]>> It should have told you.

[00:09:45]>> I'm so honored.

[00:09:46]>> So I was like, I'm not going to make this about me, but I have to tell you this on my podcast.

[00:09:50]>> It blesses my heart to know that cuz you don't know.

[00:09:52]>> Yeah.

[00:09:53]>> You really don't know.

[00:09:54]>> You don't know. Like and it's so crazy like what a ripple effect like one of your decisions will do. It could be anything. You could just be like I'm going to make a video talking about this and you don't even know how that's going to help somebody or encourage them or >> I had no idea when I was making my little it was probably that was in 2011.

[00:10:09]I was probably like >> I don't even know what house where I lived at that time what video I was doing but those what's in my bag videos were >> everything. They were very fun. They were >> I probably had like a Hello Kitty big Hello Kitty bag. I don't even know.

[00:10:22]There's probably something like I'm putting on a lamp and like this is what I want to do.

[00:10:30]>> I was like and that's my person.

[00:10:32]>> Yes.

[00:10:34]>> We were virtual best friends before we were Well, I I was your exact >> everything. I was the second I met you, I was like I love her. You were literally so sweet and so kind. And I am serious. Like you guys have been some of the most humble, kind, just sweet, genuine people that are so caring and sweet and it's so refreshing. Like it's just like a breath of fresh air. I'd be like, "Oh, >> never once ever." Like there's no attitude that comes for you guys.

[00:11:04]There's no ego that comes from you guys.

[00:11:05]There's no you're better than anybody.

[00:11:07]Like you guys are just so kind and like >> literally when I would ever see you at anything I feel like little lights be like >> I felt the ex I feel the exact same about you >> and I would just scurry on over like >> hi% 100%. And I know you were geeked when you met her.

[00:11:23]>> Oh losing my mind. Losing my mind. And then you know it's like that person like there's you always find that person start off.

[00:11:31]>> Yeah. Your start off like your person. I started crying I think when I met the girl who I watched first watch cuz I was like >> you have this attachment like I had never I'd never seen YouTube videos before. Nobody was watching YouTube really. Like >> it would be weird videos like an accidental video like look at this person crash doing this. Look at this person did it was like all like >> you know like America's Funniest Video like weird reals of things. And then I had a guy friend oddly enough he wasn't like watching that and he was like have you seen this girl like teaching makeup on YouTube? And I was like what? I didn't know that was a thing you could do. And I'd been a makeup artist for maybe like 10 years at that point almost. And everybody would always ask me like, "I wish you could teach me makeup. I wish I never learned. I don't know how. I wish I could learn." And I'd be like busy. You know, I'd be like, "Well, I got to go to another job or I got to go home or I can't teach you."

[00:12:20]And so when I saw that, I was like, "Oh my gosh, I can teach all the people at once. They can learn. I'll just teach them how." And so I got so excited and I was like, "I can do this." And then, you know, I had like professional makeup artist friends that were like, you know, texting me like, "Why are you teaching this? This is going to ruin our industry. Why are you teaching all the secrets?" like people should go to school. And I was like, "Oh, well that's not the reaction I wanted from you guys, but I get what you're saying." Um, but I was like, "But this is like for everybody that didn't learn. They don't know how to do eyebrow. They don't know how to do eyelashes. They don't know anything." And so I think that just I just was going crazy. I just had so much fun doing it. And I was like, you know, I was at a lonely time. My husband was going through a divorce. I was, you know, it was very hard things. And so I was like, I feel like I have friends. I have people to talk to.

[00:13:07]>> And then I would just, I mean, I was crazy. cuz y'all was uploading like two videos a day, sometimes, three videos a day.

[00:13:12]>> I was watching them all.

[00:13:15]>> I was locked in, honey.

[00:13:18]>> I I loved it. And like there was no pressure. Like you couldn't even pick a thumbnail for your YouTube video back then. YouTube picked it for you. And I'd be like, "What in the world?" It'd be like me like halfway talking. I'm like, "That's the pictures they're all going to see." Great.

[00:13:31]>> That's what I was I was telling our audience. cuz I was like, well, whenever I started and how I got my channel to go up, I would upload like 5 days a week, but they weren't like production. Like, they weren't like a 45 minute like I could upload like a 5 10 minute video and then you know what I mean? So, it was a little different back then to understand what I was doing. You were like, >> you were Yeah, I was like in front of a window.

[00:13:54]>> Yeah.

[00:13:54]>> How long were you doing the five till it went to the It was years.

[00:13:58]>> Really?

[00:13:58]>> Yeah. Because it was the only way you could really get out there.

[00:14:02]>> Oh, really? saturated platform inundating the platform. It was saturated very quickly and then did you just get burnt out and you were like I can't do this or were you just when you start it's when you start to get um spread thin everything else you start to realize you can't do >> and you're sleeping 1 hour a night from editing around the clock do Instagram every day now you got to do Snapchat every day you know it's like the add-on just keeps coming with this app so then you can't do it all >> so then it kind of like takes away from your experience on every other app because you're spread so thin all of them.

[00:14:33]>> You can't There was just when I started there was just Facebook and probably MySpace. I don't know. That's it.

[00:14:38]>> And even that felt like it was too much sometimes. And I'm like, people don't want to see me on YouTube and Facebook.

[00:14:44]That's too many platforms.

[00:14:45]>> And then I remember Instagram came out and I was like, what am I going to do that for? Like I have Facebook, >> right? Exactly. Exactly.

[00:14:52]>> So, I didn't even start till like a year later. I should have >> jumped on when it helped.

[00:14:58]>> I didn't know. I was like, >> how would you known?

[00:15:00]>> I was like, why is this different than Facebook? I'm posting a picture over there and it's totally different, >> right?

[00:15:04]>> I'm like then Vine came around and then all the things I was like shoot now I got a sixse second what am I I don't know what I'm going to do.

[00:15:10]>> That's literally what it feels like.

[00:15:12]What you're describing is exactly how it feels.

[00:15:14]>> Every time a new platform comes out you're kind of like start like what do I do with this?

[00:15:18]>> How do I build on that one now?

[00:15:20]>> It's like it's hard. It really is. It's really hard.

[00:15:23]>> And the editing I don't I don't know. I still I edited all my own videos like the whole time. So that was just >> fulltime job in itself. gives me like a eye twitch thing.

[00:15:31]>> No editing. A guy in a tum is already its own beast.

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[00:17:47]Oh, it's crazy. I would get like um cuz I would edit usually like at night cuz that's when it was like quiet.

[00:17:54]Like nobody was calling me, emailing me, my kids were asleep. I'd go to Starbucks. This is so bad. The Starbucks is open till 9:00 near my house. I'd go there at like 8:30 and I'd get two giant coffees and I would just drink them and I would just edit and it'd be so hard.

[00:18:09]Sometimes there'd be deadlines that were like 9:00 in the morning and I'm like, "Am I going to sleep tonight? I before school I have to take kids to school."

[00:18:16]Like this is crazy. I remember you talking about that on your channel.

[00:18:20]>> Oh, it was exhausting.

[00:18:21]>> I remember you being like, "Hey, I just posted like I remember that."

[00:18:24]>> Oh, yeah. I'd be posting. It'd be like the sun would be coming up and I was I'm like, "VIDEO WILL BE ALIVE IN 1 HOUR AFTER I TAKE MY KIDS TO SCHOOL." Just crazy how you >> Why do I have a permanent eye twitch? I don't know.

[00:18:35]>> Because you're literally not sleeping.

[00:18:37]>> Yeah.

[00:18:37]>> You're like cracked out on caffeine.

[00:18:39]>> Yeah. And I'd be like, "Why am I hospitalized on a trip to New York?" Cuz my heart is like I haven't slept enough in 2 days. So, >> literally >> just a lot of concealer. I'm like, I look awake. I look awake. And you're the pros, huh?

[00:18:50]>> Yeah. You're like, I'm color correcting.

[00:18:51]>> I'm like, if anybody's tired, I got you.

[00:18:53]I will make you look like you slept 25 hours.

[00:18:56]>> I know how to do it. Well, we have questions to ask you, Miss Candy.

[00:19:03]>> Okay. So, at one point, just like we were talking about right now, relevant to what we're talking about, you're on YouTube, you're everywhere, tutorials, collab. The longer you've been on, you've taken a little bit of a step back. Why?

[00:19:17]>> Uh, well, it was a couple reasons. Like, um, my health. I never want to be like, "Oh, I have all these things wrong with me." Or anything, but like my health I could I could only push myself so long.

[00:19:28]And then I hit like a big wall a couple years ago where I just got some scary health situation in news and I was like, >> yeah, I never really understood like why celebrities or people would not talk publicly about what they were going through, you know? And then when that happened, I was like, "Oh, because you I couldn't handle anything. I couldn't handle anybody being like, oh, you should be doing this and not doing this.

[00:19:48]You could be why are you doing I couldn't even handle that. I was like, I'm just trying to make it, you know."

[00:19:54]And then you deal with other things in life, whether it's, you know, tragedies in your own life or all kinds of things.

[00:19:58]And it's hard.

[00:20:00]>> The longer you're online and you see things, the harder it is sometimes. It's just like, I'm barely making it. Like, I can't even share this with the world because I'm barely making it through this stuff. So, I took a step back like for that and then just doing it so long and like everything changing like nobody wanted to watch long YouTube videos anymore.

[00:20:19]>> Who wants to watch a 10-minute video when you're used to watching, >> you know, 10-second videos. And so, that was another thing. I'm like, I don't I felt like I didn't know where I fit or where I belonged or like I don't know.

[00:20:32]It was like really weird to feel like I don't know where where do I >> what you're saying makes perfect sense >> so much sense changed like the beauty space has changed so much since >> 10 years ago 5 years ago it just feels like it keeps changing and then >> I was like I feel like I taught everything you know like I feel like I have a video on everything and then my kids would be like yeah mom nobody's seen that video that you made in 2013 I'm like yeah oh yeah that's true >> and I'm like but is that boring I just recreate all my old videos again. I don't know. Like, >> it's not.

[00:21:03]>> Here's how to do eyelashes 101 from 15 years ago. A 17 years ago.

[00:21:09]>> No, 100%. But >> that's literally what it is.

[00:21:11]>> Makes sense. Like what you're saying makes sense as to why.

[00:21:14]>> Did you guys feel that? Like, did you guys feel that at any point? Cuz you guys have just been still going strong the whole time.

[00:21:19]>> Yeah, but it feels like a rat race that you're trying to keep up with.

[00:21:21]>> Like you're on a hamster wheel.

[00:21:22]>> Feels like you're on a hamster wheel in a way.

[00:21:24]>> So, what you're saying it's like Yes.

[00:21:27]We actually very much like relate 100% to what you're saying for sure. We just The thing is for us, we didn't like take >> big breaks in it. We kept like kind of like progressively uploading to different platforms. And the thing is once I started realizing that I'm like I can do what I did on YouTube on TikTok and I started kind of like transitioning that >> it helped me like mentally to feel like I don't like necessarily cuz I was feeling the same thing. I'm like where do I fit in? I'm a long form content creator. I take photos and I do 30-minute YouTube videos. Yeah.

[00:21:54]>> So then once I started realizing that I'm like if I just like bite-size what I already do >> like we have personalities for that.

[00:21:59]Like we can do those things >> or the ones where they weren't talking, you know? It was just like music and I was like I don't do I don't I I talk I I teach like I got into this to teach people. Like now I'm just you're just looking at me and guessing what I'm doing. Like this is >> Yeah.

[00:22:14]>> 100%. And the thing is also like the platform itself has changed. Like listen it was musically and it was about like dancing and like little you know very that vibe. That's like what it was. I wasn't really doing that like I wasn't doing that on the platform and then people started using it for different things and they started using it to like do like byite-size tutorials or by just sharing their personalities and I was like that is something I feel like I can get behind that I can get behind not necessarily like the dancing and whatnot >> but I can just use we have personalities for that like we can do those things >> so I'm like I guess I'll just do what I already do >> I think you guys have done that so well like you guys have done that so well where I'd be like oh my gosh they're just killing it everywhere all the angles are killing it with all the things and I'm over here just like >> no it's just like it is like the thing is too like >> we have put so much work into it like we really actively try so hard cuz like we also have a podcast like we do so many things >> everything I was like how do they have brands how do they have podcasts how are they doing it on all the platforms I I was tired just seeing I'm like are they sleeping or they >> we're tired I'm saying we are tired like that is absolutely amazing we are tired um but it really also I think is really important that you find things in your life too that you can like hold on to that's more normal or like more like your normaly.

[00:23:28]>> Oh yeah.

[00:23:29]>> And we we all I know we all have things that we like really like like cherish because we know that it's what's like really real.

[00:23:36]>> Oh the moment where like your phones aren't out or you can just like >> I don't have to think like oh I should be posting. Should I take a picture of this dinner? Should I take a picture of this or >> you know and there's so many things that come with it which are so so so amazing.

[00:23:49]I love the whole the the one thing that I miss is I know like I felt this duty like I started writing my blogs before I even started YouTube and I would write two blogs every single day like I'm talking the day I was in labor with my Ellie I was writing the blog post because I would get so many letters from people saying like I'm suffering from depression I'm going through this thing like your blog is the only thing I look forward to so I felt this like obligation like if they're looking forward to this I have to write this every day you know And that for me on YouTube, being able to bring people joy, help them. The teaching makeup was like a little part of it, you know, but the real part is knowing that you are making a difference in somebody's day or helping somebody through a hard time with something as insignificant as makeup. But when you hear like, oh, they were in the hospital with a terminal cancer and you were the bright spot that they watched in there or all these kind of things or whatever the thing they were going through. I was like, "This is what I love about it."

[00:24:48]>> And then just figuring like, "How do I how do I keep doing that when I I'll be somewhere with somebody and it'll be like a beautiful mom with all of her kids." And she's like, "I started watching you when I was in middle school." I'm like, "You have a full-fledged family now. I feel like I'm 2,000 years old." And everybody's like, "I don't watch YouTube anymore. I don't I don't watch makeup no more." I'm like, >> "Okay, what do I make for people that I don't describe me, you know?" So, like It was realizing like that shift of like everything when Tik Tok all those things blew up and and I just needed like a health break for a minute. So, >> I'm feeling like 100% better now, but there was definitely a time where I was like I can't I don't have energy to look open up a social media app and look and see what's going on.

[00:25:30]>> Absolutely.

[00:25:31]>> Well, our next question is literally what you're talking about right now. So, we said you've always I feel like Candy Johnson, the name the person has always had a very positive kind. Yeah. just like a safe energetic place.

[00:25:45]>> Have you ever felt pressured to keep that up when things like in your real life like you were just saying are hard >> or going to [ __ ] and >> oh my gosh it's so hard because a lot of times people don't know what's going on, you know, like I remember right after my dad died, literally the day after I was flying back when he was supposed to be picking me up from the airport and now I'm flying back and he and now I'm going straight to a corner's office, you know, and it's the only time I put sunglasses on in an airport. Like I'm never that person that's like don't recognize. Like I was never I was just crying so much. I I didn't want people to see I was crying. And I remember a girl came up and and she was like, "Oh my gosh, can I come get a picture with you?" And I was trying so hard to be I was like, "Oh yeah, of course." And and then my kids were there and they were like they're like, "Mommy's really sad. Her dad just died." And I was just like, "Oh no." And then like all of a sudden she's feeling bad and she doesn't know what to do now.

[00:26:36]I have to comfort her cuz she's feeling bad. And I was just like those kind of moments were a little tricky when people don't know what you're going through or there was like a stalker at a couple beauty events I was at and nobody knew and you know I would always even tell security with me like you be nice to anybody. Don't you dare tell anybody she can't do pictures or she can't don't do like I want to see every you don't know their story connection to you you know >> and I remember uh the security was with me and uh they were trying to get the guy that was there and he'd been following me and showing up at many events and doing many crazy things. I didn't know you had a soccer.

[00:27:09]>> Oh yeah, this one was like really really really aggressive like like he was on lists not to be allowed in and he got in somehow and so he was at this one and I remember the police were escorting me out and they were undercover cuz they didn't want to make him alarmed and so they were walking ahead of me and they were like do not stop. You just have to make up an excuse why you can't take photos. And this is not like a big beauty event. You guys are probably at it. And I remember these people ran up to take photos with me and I just felt so bad because like I couldn't stop and I couldn't tell them why. And I'm like kind of a little nervous, scared that this guy's still wandering around. And so it was those moments where you're trying to like act normal but you're like I don't even know what I said why I had to leave. I just remember feeling like oh this is this is hard cuz you can't be yourself. So those kind of moments when you're having like a really hard day, like something is difficult and you're like, "Oh, I'm going to try to be friendly."

[00:28:02]>> Even though like I'm crying and falling apart.

[00:28:05]>> No, >> I feel like that's like so hard like and it happens all the time in every aspect.

[00:28:09]Like you can have those experiences and it just it sucks.

[00:28:13]>> Yeah.

[00:28:13]>> But it's almost like you just have to like power through in a way and that's just like what like you try to be like put your best foot forward.

[00:28:19]>> Oh yeah. Like I always want to bring joy and I never want to bring people down.

[00:28:22]So, even my health stuff wasn't good this last year, I saw this girl and she was like, "Candy, Candy." And she was like, "Hi." She's like, "Um," she's like, "How are you doing? How's your health?" And I'm like, "Oh, I'm doing good." And she's like, "Oh, yeah." She's like, "I saw you. She went." She goes, "You look terrible." And I was like, she's like, "I saw you. I don't know what store." And I was like, "Oh, oh, why don't I know what to DO WITH YOU?"

[00:28:42]LIKE, "OH, YEAH. I PROBABLY FELT TERRIBLE." I just like resort to what piece of information.

[00:28:47]>> I was like, "Oh, okay. Thank you so much." I was like, "Yeah, well, I felt terrible." So, >> well, I felt like [ __ ] as long at all.

[00:28:58]>> Literally like, "What the fuck?"

[00:29:00]>> I was like, "How am I doing today? Do I look a little better?"

[00:29:03]>> I'm so dead.

[00:29:05]>> I feel like So, I truly feel like you like have shaped YouTube >> like beauty YouTube like truly like you are literally one of the founding followers. It's the truth. It literally is what it is. But like how do you feel like the landscape of beauty has changed online from YouTube era? Like how do you feel like it's changed?

[00:29:22]>> Oh, it's so crazy cuz it used to be like when I started it was nobody knowing what they're doing. Nobody knew how to edit. Nobody had good equipment. Nobody had lighting. There weren't any examples. Like I think people go on Instagram or Tik Tok now and like you need a hook and you need 5 seconds to follow me for more tips and this is how you get videos. You post 20 times a day and you do this and there was none of that. So it was just basically I just wanted to teach and share my knowledge with people and make somebody happy, you know, and it was so like unpolished and it was just so real and raw, you know, like I remember my dad would tell people he's like, "I love when I watch you cuz he's like it's how you are in your real life. Like you're dropping a thing, you can't find it, you're doing this, you're do you know and I think I miss that part of it. I miss it feeling like you're not talking 100 miles an hour, which I felt over the years I have to talk faster because it's got to be shorter. Now I'm just like cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut people anxiety where before it was like more mellow like hey everybody like I'm going to show it was like regular conversation you know >> and I feel it was people's genuine passion like >> nobody was there were no brands that you were like appeasing there was no collabs anybody was trying to do it was just you authentically being like I love this weird obscure product and I love this and I I just think there was like this purity to it and this like real genuine >> it was just real. There were mistakes.

[00:30:46]It wasn't good quality. It was just like >> no there was no format. Nobody knew anything. There wasn't even like beauty guru wasn't a word. It was just no influencer wasn't a word. It was just like >> you were a person making these things on YouTube. I feel like that is where the deepest form of influence was coming in whenever we had nothing to sell because there was nothing to sell and there was no real money to be made outside of like your AdSense for instance, you know what I mean? But like I mean you weren't gutting for gunning for a million views.

[00:31:15]But I feel like >> now sure it's more influential but you have hundreds of thousands of influencers so you're going to be able to more and brands are more inundated in the content whereas then it wasn't. But I think when it was just so raw and real, that was like the idea. And yeah, we lost the plot. We completely lost the plot. Like the plot is gone. It's blown.

[00:31:37]It's gone. So it's so interesting having you here because you're one of the few people that are around that created the plot, who remembers the plot. And I think that that was like, look how you influenced me. Like I wanted to be you.

[00:31:51]I was like, I want to do what she's doing. Like I want like that channel. I want to do those things, you know what I mean? And it that was very exciting. But um yeah, it's just really interesting to have you here. You are you are the plot, you know what I mean? I think that's like the most influential that you can get at a genuine level.

[00:32:09]>> It was well that it was so fun back then because it was literally just like >> I would go to the Mac store or something and I would just show like what I bought. I didn't set up lights. It was at my kitchen table. It was just like poorly lit. I mean, the first video is so bad. You don't see my face. I had a cold. I It was dark. It You can't even It doesn't even sound like me because I was sick and >> and I just made it where like today I would be like, "Oh, no, no, the lighting. I got to wait till tomorrow."

[00:32:35]>> And it was just so bad. It was so great because it was so genuine and it was like nobody heard of like the Swadier eyeshadows that I had used in my kit.

[00:32:45]Nobody had heard of these brands weren't known. You couldn't get them anywhere.

[00:32:48]You know, Sephora >> the options of makeup was very small.

[00:32:51]Now there's like one zillion trillion makeup brands where you were like you were going to get like maybe 10 you knew of and then >> and then professional brands nobody had heard of that I was like go to this website and people were just trusting.

[00:33:03]They'd never heard of these brands before but I'm like I'm telling you these are what look good on high definition cameras. This is what lasts all day, you know.

[00:33:10]>> Yeah.

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[00:35:52]And so being like a a makeup artist that worked in this, so that would make it a little different because, you know, I was trained like your makeup's got to last for a 16, 18 hour shoot. Like it it cannot move. It can't just be cute for a picture for a thing. So I was like, I'm going to teach you how to set this stuff so it is not going to come off. I'm going to teach you how to do all this stuff. And so I felt like I had these very indepth and like lengthy things where I was like, bless the people that are watching this on this long video of mine.

[00:36:19]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:36:21]just learning all the things and >> and I feel like a grandma like watching tutorials now. I'll see like on Tik Tok them all, don't do that. That's so dangerous. That's like really bad for your this or that. And I'm like, okay, it's trending. It's got millions of views.

[00:36:33]>> You're like it. You're like, it is what it is. You got to let them go. Let the kids fly.

[00:36:36]>> I was like, all right. Yeah, this is real. Okay. All right. You might you're going to hurt yourself, but okay.

[00:36:41]>> Okay, great. Great.

[00:36:43]>> Okay. The year is 2012. This is a fun question, by the way. The year is 2012.

[00:36:49]If YouTube had a reunion, who are the three people at your table and me and Manny cannot be there?

[00:36:54]>> We can't be there.

[00:36:55]>> We are. We haven't even started. We haven't even started in 2012.

[00:36:58]>> Who are you guys start?

[00:36:59]>> 2012.

[00:37:00]>> You did 2012.

[00:37:01]>> So, I'm not existing.

[00:37:02]>> I did I think 2014 2013 Instagram 2014.

[00:37:07]>> Are you serious? You started on Instagram first. You were doing the close-up eye pictures like everybody.

[00:37:12]>> That's exactly what I was doing.

[00:37:13]>> Those eyes. I was so jealous. I was like just taking a picture of this amazing eye makeup. I'm like, that's why did I do that, >> you guys? And I knew that the reason I was doing is cuz I was a boy >> and I knew I would get less hate >> cuz they just my eye and I don't do my fa my face up too, of course. But a lot of the up close eye stuff is what the the reposting.

[00:37:32]>> Yeah, that's the reposting those eye pictures.

[00:37:35]>> So I would get reposted. My eyes would get reposted. So your Instagram page to blow up. That was so smart.

[00:37:41]>> My eyes and but and it was more obviously it's just your eyes. So it's a lot more androgynous. Like it's not >> Yeah. They're like that's just a eye shadow. Nobody can tell.

[00:37:49]>> And they've always had like thinner brows. So >> girly brows.

[00:37:53]>> I had thinner brows.

[00:37:55]>> Thin ass brows. So >> I'm trying to think who was doing that era that you >> It would have been Lauren Luke because she's the person that the reason I started cuz I saw her and I was just like I love her. She is like she doesn't know she's my best friend, but she's my name.

[00:38:08]>> Lauren Luke. Her channel was Panacea 81.

[00:38:11]>> Wow. and she was doing makeup in the UK and she was selling makeup and she was showing you how to use it on there and she was just so funny and real and you'd hear her like dogs snoring in the background and I was like I love her and she's literally the first person I saw.

[00:38:25]I never I didn't know that was possible and then I was like I'll be like the the American version of her and then I didn't know there were like a handful of other people doing it. Um so let me think who was doing at that time. It would probably be like the Pixie Woo sisters.

[00:38:40]Um, it would definitely be Lauren Luke.

[00:38:42]I would have her there. I'm trying to think who else was doing makeup then.

[00:38:46]>> I'm like, you have like 10 people like Michelle like Michelle Fawn.

[00:38:49]>> Michelle was my was my number one.

[00:38:51]>> Oh, really?

[00:38:52]>> Like that's the first person I saw that did a beauty tutorial was Michelle.

[00:38:54]>> Do you remember what that first video was?

[00:38:55]>> Lady Gaga.

[00:38:57]Okay, so this is a funny story.

[00:38:59]>> The eye thing.

[00:39:00]>> So, back in the day, nobody had a million followers. That it was very low.

[00:39:04]So, my goal was to have 200,000 followers on YouTube. That was my big huge goal. And Michelle hadn't gotten there and nobody was at 200,000. And I was like, we were close. We were like so close. And then she did the Lady Gaga video, >> honey.

[00:39:17]>> And that Lady Gaga video because she photoshopped the eyes to look really big. So everybody thought, is that makeup? What is she doing? There was no AI. There was no apps. There was no nothing back then.

[00:39:27]>> That video hit Reddit, hit everything, and just blew up. And she hit the 200,000. And I was like, she did it.

[00:39:34]>> She hit,000 followers. She made it. How crazy was that? That's the biggest That was the biggest >> 200,000 was I was like, she crossed the line. She's golden.

[00:39:43]>> The threshold that can be passed by no one.

[00:39:47]>> I was like, I'm never going to catch her. I'm never going to catch her now.

[00:39:51]>> I got to look. But it was that Lady Gaga video that went everywhere. It everywhere. It was that was crazy.

[00:39:57]>> That like changed my brain chemistry.

[00:39:58]I'm not even kidding.

[00:39:59]>> It was so good. And I I would I'd probably have I'd have Michelle there.

[00:40:03]Who else was there? probably like oh purse buzz dulce candy there was a guy named with encore makeup >> I went to one of dulce candies meet and greets when I when I first moved to California and I waited in line forever >> it was like I'm trying to think who else is doing um >> oh my gosh Alicia I can't think of her YouTube channel name it was everybody had the cutesy names you know and like when I started I couldn't think of a cutesy name it was Like everybody was like, "Oh, oh, Jayla's Mac." That was another one. It was Yes, >> that was my girl.

[00:40:38]>> I love her.

[00:40:39]>> Crazy.

[00:40:40]>> It was like all these people had these names like I love Mac, Butterfly 67, Rice Bunny, Juicy Star.

[00:40:46]>> Cutie Star Sister.

[00:40:48]>> Yes. And it was like everybody had these cutesy names and I couldn't think of a name cutesy for me. And I was like, I'm just going to use my name. I guess >> your name is cutesy though. Your name is so cute. Your name was Kale. It was like sparkly makeup brush or >> Yeah, it wasn't sparkly girl 7.

[00:41:04]>> Yeah, it was like sparkly girl 92. And so I was like, I guess I'll just use my name. And then later it was weird to me cuz you'd see people out like at a beauty thing and they'd be like, "Oh, there's Perspas. There's uh you know, Juicy Star." And then they'd be like, "Candy Johnson." I'm like, "Yes, what?"

[00:41:18]And I was like, "Am I in trouble?" I'm like, "Oh, they they know me." What?

[00:41:21]This is so weird.

[00:41:23]>> Wow.

[00:41:24]>> No, he's not like Candy Johnson, you're up at the doctor's office. I was like, "Wait, they only know my name. This is so weird."

[00:41:30]>> That's so That's so I didn't think about that. Like that everyone did have like a a cutesy name.

[00:41:34]>> Yeah.

[00:41:34]>> Like that was like the thing.

[00:41:35]>> That's the thing.

[00:41:36]>> Yeah. In like the beginning.

[00:41:37]>> Have you seen on TikTok there's like going around everyone for some reason every And I thought I was the only person on the planet who knows who Jay Loves Mac one is.

[00:41:46]>> Yes.

[00:41:47]>> I mean come on. Like I used to watch her videos on repeat but there's a whole thing on TikTok now. People want to know where she's at. Where is she? I don't know.

[00:41:54]>> Oh no.

[00:41:55]>> It's a whole thing. And people are like, "Where is she?" Cuz she really just is like done with it, you know?

[00:42:00]>> She was like, "I've had enough. I've had enough of the internet. I'm just going to be out here being the whole thing."

[00:42:05]And I have to say it's in my algorithm cuz I want to know where she's at cuz I was such >> I was like, I'm going to have to look for my phone and see if I have actual phone numbers cuz it was like a small little group and you like knew people back then. It was like, >> what? You do this weird thing too that all your family's like, "What are you doing?"

[00:42:20]>> Dude, back then like especially in the beauty space, like I had everyone's numbers. I like knew everyone that was in the space creating like when we were like it was like >> back in the day day like it was Yeah.

[00:42:30]>> Now it's like >> I be like are you going to this thing?

[00:42:33]Are you going to this thing? Are you going back in the trip days when it was >> Yes. You tripping are you tripping off?

[00:42:39]>> Yeah. You turn off say yes or no 100%.

[00:42:43]Um I'm curious because you are also an OG and you've been doing this for so long. Have you ever had any like weird brand interactions? Like have you ever had like a brand that's like kind of [ __ ] you over?

[00:42:53]You have to say the brand name of course.

[00:42:54]>> A weird one I would think it was really difficult to work with. I won't say the name but it is a very big global brand and they have a huge legal team. So everything was just like under this microscope of editing. I don't know if I've ever edited a re-edited so many times.

[00:43:08]>> And the worst part was is I was using a Urban Decay palette. And you know Urban Decay has some edgy names in there >> of course.

[00:43:14]>> And it was just part of the tutorial I was doing. I didn't notice it cuz I've been doing videos. I just say the name.

[00:43:19]I'm like, "And now I'm going to take this. Now we're going to get this." Blah blah blah. And in the video, I didn't even think anything. I was like, "And now we're going to get naked." The naked was the eyehadow color. And this brand lost their mind. They were like, "She is inappropriately said we're going to get naked in the video." And I was like, "No, I didn't. It's the eyehadow color."

[00:43:35]And like the editing of it is so >> I wasn't like saying anywhere. I was like, "And now we're going to get naked." I wasn't. And then and now we're going to get chocolate. It was just like I don't know why I was saying get, but like get it with a brush or something.

[00:43:47]So that was like very difficult editing wise and then brandwise there's just been some brands where you know midway through the thing I didn't like how they were interacting with like customers and stuff and I was like you know what I don't care how it is not the money you're paying me is I cannot tell people to be >> using your product and you're not helping or listening you know and so I just yeah some things I was like oh I'm just gonna we're gonna stop this midway and we're gonna Wow. Oh, and cuz at the end of the day, like my integrity, like you're you don't know people's stories.

[00:44:22]Like I know I know how hard it is to make money and to tell people to buy something that it was it was a good product, you know? It was good, but I just didn't like >> you better not be messing with my little candy family of people online. I'm like, if you're mean to them, no, I will not I will not stand for it, you know? So, >> I think that's probably like the only weird >> that's probably I can't think of. It's been like so many years of them. There's probably some crazy ones in there that I >> Sometimes you block [ __ ] out for your your >> Yeah, there might be something I blocked out in there that I'm like and a no.

[00:44:52]>> Yeah, exactly.

[00:44:53]>> Yeah, I can't I can't think of anything crazy. I'm probably going to think of 12 stories on my drive home.

[00:44:59]>> I will I will pin the comment.

[00:45:03]>> The comments like you guys, this is a real story.

[00:45:05]>> This is a good one. This is going to be a blow.

[00:45:10]>> Okay. What is one thing that in the creator world you think is a little bit fake, a little bit phony, a little bit not real, as someone especially who is super raw and real as you have been through so many years, what is something that you feel like you wish was a little more genuine?

[00:45:26]>> Yeah, I think a lot of it sometimes gets lost in there. I remember being at a photo shoot in New York once and I was I was getting there was like other influencers there and they were just very new. I don't even remember their names, but they were just starting up and they were like in the room getting their stuff ready and I was over here and I've always been like the older one because like I started YouTube when I was old. I was already mom with three kids. I was like I think I was 29 or 30.

[00:45:50]Like I think I was 30.

[00:45:52]>> So I was like already old when I started. So I've always been like I'm the grandma of the of the people around.

[00:45:57]And so they were young girls. I could just hear them all talking. And it was just like the reason they got into YouTube was just >> it just made me feel sad, you know, like >> I didn't know that it it could be a career for me. I just knew I was lonely at the time. I had makeup knowledge and I could teach people and I was like this is great. I can help people, you know, >> and they were just had these lists like wish lists of brands they wanted to work with and wish list of like amounts of money they wanted to make. And I normally I'm not confrontational at all.

[00:46:27]Like I avoid anything. I will be like the I'll be sitting there in the airplane having to pee my pants and I don't even want to bother the person next to me to get out. Like I just don't like troubling or bothering anybody. And it was just making me so sad. And then at one point I just I walked over there and I was like hey I was like I was just listening to you guys talking. I was like what is the reason why you guys started you know >> and it was just for money. It was just for free product. It was this they wanted a brand. They wanted this much money. They wanted this. I'm like >> okay. And I was just trying to impart things. I'm like, you know, like if you if your heart is in this that you want to help somebody that it's not just not about you, it's what can you do for people? Are you entertaining? Are you teaching? Are you brightening somebody's day? Are you what what are you giving to people? You know, you're just doing something. So, I think that just that was in the beginning when I first started noticing like people are getting into this not because they want to help, entertain, make people laugh, do something. They're just getting in it to I I want to deal with, you know, Nike. I want to deal with so and so. And I was just like, "Oh, what is happening?"

[00:47:28]Like, "This is not >> the thing anymore." Or people just being mean to like at, you know, beauty events and you'd see people being very like, "No, I'm not taking photos or rude to their I was just like, "No, no, no, no."

[00:47:40]Like, they're your heart. This is should be your heart. You should care about each little person that's coming up. You don't know if they just lost a parent and you're the through feeling like somebody that loves them in your life.

[00:47:50]They don't you don't know if they're maybe being beaten at home and you're the only person that makes them feel loved. Like you don't know their stories. And so >> for me, I just feel like very protective of >> of the of everybody cuz I've met you know thousands of people at meet and greets and you're just like and your stories like I would just leave crying every time just >> crying that I was like I can't believe I I get to matter to you and I get to pour love into your life where you don't have any love at all, you know? So >> that is bigger to me than >> any award, anything that I could get really is just those that matters at the end of the day. Even people being like, "You taught me how to do my eyebrows or but then like you helped me through a breakup, you helped me through this, you helped me." Those are the things that matter. I'm like, "You learn the eyebrows eventually. There were books.

[00:48:35]There were books and you didn't have the internet, you know?"

[00:48:38]>> I love that. And I I feel like I've even said that cuz even whenever we started like the girls I was following had a Honda Accord and maybe a one-bedroom apartment and that's what I had. So I was like I think this might be able to cover my [ __ ] >> Like I think I can do this.

[00:48:56]>> But there was no because there was no like big Sephora deal. I mean it just didn't exist. Nothing like that.

[00:49:02]>> It was so little like at that time when it started like it was so funny. I remember I didn't make any money on YouTube at first and I remember when they said you want to be a part of the partner program and I was like I thought the partner program cuz you could only make 10-minute videos at that time and I was making these long transformation videos that took me an hour to turn myself into Snow White, an hour to turn myself into an hour to turn myself into Jack Sparrow. So long and I'd be like I got to edit this down to 10 minutes. And so when they said you want to be on the partner program, you can make videos longer than 10 minutes. I was like, "Hallelujah. Sign me up. People have to get a 40-minute tutorial right now." And then they were like, and then another thing down was like, "Oh, it could be monetized." But like, nobody was making anything. So, you didn't know. I was like, "Maybe I'll make a dollar. Maybe I'll make something." And then the first thing I think it like covered my cell phone bill. And I was like losing my mind. I was like, "Oh my god, we hit the jackpot. Pay my AT&T bill." Like, "What?" Like, I'm rolling in the money.

[00:49:59]My whatever $100 I paid or something.

[00:50:01]>> Yes. %.

[00:50:02]>> It wasn't like, oh, this is how I'm going to I mean, I don't mind. No, you know what I mean? Absolutely not.

[00:50:09]>> Um, it was like a PERK LIKE, WOO, I GOT A LITTLE SOMETHING.

[00:50:12]>> YES. Like something extra.

[00:50:14]>> I was like, perfect. This will pay for my memory cards I just had to buy or something.

[00:50:18]>> Literally.

[00:50:20]Okay, another fun question. What's the most ridiculous thing an influencer's ever said to you or anyone in the industry?

[00:50:28]>> Oh my goodness. That was in the industry. Yeah, you can have think time too on this >> ridiculous thing. Oh man.

[00:50:38]Oh man, there have been some ridiculous ones for sure.

[00:50:42]>> Um they're like all flooding back to my head.

[00:50:46]>> You're like Yeah. You're like, "Yeah, they're doing that."

[00:50:48]>> You're like, "Is it therapy?"

[00:50:50]>> Yeah, there's a lot there is a lot of I mean it's like a good thing like I was older. Oh, let me see. I know that there were so many um just like some simple ones. I know I was somewhere we were at something and it was like a beauty event and it was at like this brand thing and somebody was like do you know how old Candy is? She's old enough to be my mom. Like to the brand person that was there and I was like >> bro this is a weird topic of conversation.

[00:51:19]>> They're like why is this why am I here?

[00:51:20]>> I was like I'm old enough. Okay. I'm like that's a fact. That is true. could be you could be my child, but >> I'm trying to think of like cra I mean I know there was more things where I've definitely just been like you know >> I'm just going to forgive that one.

[00:51:35]We're just going to >> we're just going to move on.

[00:51:37]>> We're just going to move on. I don't know what's going on in their life that they're just having a a sassy day or or something because like in the beginning day of beauty influence like I don't know when the beauty and for boom was but all of a sudden it went from like not anybody there were no events there was nothing if there was an event there was like two people there >> to it went to like boom explosion of people and I was just like oh my gosh oh my gosh and everybody was so fancy and I was like I I don't have the clothes for this I don't I I don't have like cocktail dresses I didn't have the >> it did get really fancy It really was our it was our group that where the the bubble busted I think it started too cuz I would say 2020 the bubble really busted whenever Tik Tok came on and now we're talking like hundreds of thousands but I do think it was like our era whenever it like it did blow >> like 2015 2016 something like that.

[00:52:27]Yeah.

[00:52:27]>> When it was like the bigger >> like YouTubers, all the trip cities, so many trips you there were trips stacked at the same like do you want to go to or do you want to go to Paris with this brand? You're like the same day the same weekend. This is the weirdest boat.

[00:52:44]>> Book me across.

[00:52:48]>> The next >> I remember that one trip like I've always wanted to go to Fiji or Tahiti whatever those little house on the huts like that's always been on a bucket list.

[00:52:54]>> And I think it was a trip. Did you guys go on that tart trip? Yes. And I could I didn't go something I couldn't go. There was like a reason I couldn't go.

[00:53:01]>> And then that trip was bonkers. Like I looked online. It was just like every Yeah, it was Bora Bor. It was like everybody was there. I was like first off, how did they how is everybody there?

[00:53:11]>> I don't know.

[00:53:11]>> Literally schedule clear. They said tiki huts over the water. Everybody said cleared schedule.

[00:53:18]>> And I was like I one day maybe I'll get to a tiki hut. It was there on that one.

[00:53:24]When I saw the I it looked like a little bit of mayhem at some moments and I was like maybe the internet maybe it was too much for me. You know what?

[00:53:35]>> But a lot of crazy stuff did happen on that trip that never hit the internet.

[00:53:39]>> Oh yeah. Like I'd hear about it. I would hear about the things and I was like, "Oh my golly, this is like >> And none of it was Tart's fault."

[00:53:46]>> No. I don't care. I'll [ __ ] say it.

[00:53:48]I'll be fine. It was never It was never the brand's fault. It wasn't if anything it was the brand trying to cover up and save their asses for the behavior of the influencer.

[00:54:00]>> Yeah. You can't like um control people.

[00:54:02]>> Oh yeah.

[00:54:03]>> Hello.

[00:54:03]>> Do you remember the uh benefit thing in Vegas? I think it was the most influencers that were ever eyebrows.

[00:54:10]>> Eyebrows eyebrow. I got to the hotel room and there was a book and in the book did you remember the book? It had every influencer was there and their name. It was pages p I was just turning pages. 100 influencers.

[00:54:22]>> I think it was more. I was like, "Are there a thousand people here?" And then in the morning, we walked in that big room with all the makeup tables. I'm like, "This looks like the Super Bowl.

[00:54:30]I've never seen so many makeup tables and lights in my life." And I was I got nervous.

[00:54:35]>> I was like, "There's bound to be some interactions here. There's going to be some fights. This person doesn't like this person like this person."

[00:54:42]I would just leave. Like once the party was done and I knew people started drinking, I was like going back to the hotel room. I am not going to have any part of whatever is going to transpire.

[00:54:51]>> And and I'm like that grandma Candy's cabin out. I'm just going back to my hotel. I'm going to order in room service. That's how I >> You should have went back to the room.

[00:54:58]>> I should have I should have been Anybody want to do something? I should have gone back to that room. I don't even drink. I should have gone back to that [ __ ] room.

[00:55:06]>> But you guys were always so sweet. Like you guys were I never ever ever once ever felt ego ever from any of you guys.

[00:55:12]Like you guys were just like little these little bubbles of sweet humble humility that I was like I wish they agree.

[00:55:18]>> I do agree.

[00:55:19]>> And you know what? People take advantage of a sweet humble. That's the deal. They will take advantage of stomped on and walked on cuz they know you're not going to sue them. They know you're not going to do all the things that other people are going to do. We're never going to make a video on you. We're never going to talk about you on our part. Like we're never going to do it. We've never done it.

[00:55:37]>> And they know that.

[00:55:38]>> Yeah. I mean >> I mean things have changed though.

[00:55:41]>> Oh. cuz I the thing is like I'm not saying that I'm not humble. I still I genuinely do feel like I'm a humble person. I'm a kind person. I just feel like I stand up for myself a little bit more now than I did in 2016. You know what I'm saying? Like >> there's more like um >> bone there.

[00:55:54]>> Oh yeah. When you're just like mushy, you feel like you're about to be beat up by everybody. YOU'RE LIKE, "OH MY GOSH."

[00:55:58]OH. OH. OH. And then later you're like, "I just don't know. No, I don't even want to do that anymore. I'm too tired.

[00:56:04]>> I'm too tired now. Honey, >> I'm too tired now. I'm tired.

[00:56:09]>> I used to get in the ring and I'd I swear I was I was battling the girls.

[00:56:14]I was battling the girls.

[00:56:15]>> Really?

[00:56:16]>> I used to have to battle the girls.

[00:56:17]Girls, I did. I did. They would try to get me and I would be like there was I can think of multiple experiences.

[00:56:24]>> What?

[00:56:25]>> NO MATTER. NO WAY HURT MY GIRL. KATIE, >> they would try Laura.

[00:56:32]>> They would try me. Katie, they would try me. I am such a loudmouth [ __ ] from the south that just like >> really >> can I LIKE REALLY she is a loudmouth [ __ ] >> I can be so sweet and kind but it's like if you're going to [ __ ] all over me like I simply will have to say about Lauren. She's always been that girl that's like I'm going to say something back to you. Like if they try to come for her never get away with it.

[00:56:56]You will never get away for you for me either. You are so sweet. Like you have literally been so sweet.

[00:57:02]>> But I just feel like I have always tried to be nice to people and it's like if you want to say something and you want to do something or you want to throw a sly at me and you want to be rude, I'm going to have to make you uncomfortable because we're going to talk about it.

[00:57:13]>> Who's going to say something to you?

[00:57:14]Like what in the world? You know what I've learned on the internet though is I was always like a people pleaser, you know, and then like >> there's a lot of people with mindsets and thoughts about life and things and they're not going to like you for various reasons and you're like, you know what, if I'm too happy for you, I'm not going to be offended that you don't, you know, or you want you want that mean girl that's going to cuss people out every day. I'm not her. So, if you don't like me for that, then >> it's I've never been hated heard such hateful things as the internet. And then it just you there's a lot of people with unhealthy mindsets or damaged mindsets and and hurt. They're just hurt people, you know, very very hurt people and they take it out on you for whatever.

[00:57:57]>> There was some girl she wrote on this book and she was like, >> I can't believe Candi still doing t tutorials. She's some ratchet face, no talent with this whole paragraph. Looks like a man. All these things and the sound of her voice is annoying and and I was just like, "Wow, whoa, whoa. This is a whole paragraph of some hate. And I looked at her profile picture. I'm like, oh my gosh, she's like stunningly beautiful. She looks like she could be a pageant queen. And I was just like, I'm just going to write something back to her. And I I think I just wrote like, it's so crazy. Like, you look so beautiful. It doesn't make sense that somebody so beautiful would be saying such ugly words, you know? And that's all I said.

[00:58:31]>> And then she wrote back, of course. And she's just like, oh my gosh, I never thought you were going to see that. I was having the worst day. I I don't It was like this list of like she got fired, her car, all these things. She's like, "I'm so sorry I took this out on you. You're like the nicest person." And it just like >> I was like, "This is You don't know what is behind somebody's >> Mhm.

[00:58:50]>> things, you know, or hurt."

[00:58:52]>> And some stories you'll never know. Like I'll There was a girl right after my dad died, like very shortly, like days after my dad died and I got home and I'm just like crying. And that was like the first long break of YouTube I took. Like I didn't care. I didn't care about the I didn't care if I posted a video. I didn't care brand deals were going to have to wait. Like I'm just not going to do this. Mhm.

[00:59:09]>> And um and I was just like crying every day, not eating. And I'd be running I'd run for like 5 hours a day and I would just be running and crying and that's all I did for I don't even know how long. And uh the police show up at my door and I was like, "Is this something about what happened with my dad or something, you know? I don't know." And then uh they come to the door and they're like, "We're here about you stealing a car." And I was like, "What?

[00:59:34]What are you talking about?" And they're like, "This woman sent photos of you in her car and said you stole her car in another state and she put a wig on to look like my hair and she ran a red light so that the red light would like hopefully it just obviously doesn't look like me still." And I was like, "What in the craziness?" And like I was actually at an event at Urban Decay like the weekend that it happened. So >> I mean I they had proof I wasn't even there anyway. Um, and my mom was there with me and I was just like I was like, why would this girl do this? Like now I know her address and like you know and and then my mom is like she's such an angel. My mom is like >> we are going to pray for her right now.

[01:00:15]And I was like >> mom I was going to pray with you but I'm having a hard TIME WANTING TO PRAY FOR HER. YEAH.

[01:00:25]>> And my mom's like, "We are going to pray that God is going to bless her and fill her heart with every wound that why she's so sad that it would make her."

[01:00:31]And she's like, "We're going to play she's breast with so much joy and happiness. She never feels like she ever is this low to make somebody feel like this again." And I was like, >> "Yes, okay. Yes, Jesus. This is right."

[01:00:42]And and I remember after that like I did feel this sense of like my heart felt a new level of heartbreak for people that are in that mode cuz you're happy people don't do that, you know? like the happy successful people I knew, they don't have time. One and they're never going around being like this person did this, this person did that. And then I was like, I don't know what her this I will never know her story. Like I never reached out to her even though I had her address and name and everything, but I do hope she's doing well. But after that, it really just shifted my heart that you don't know. I mean, so many people I have interacted with. I would never share their stories, but it is very crazy what they did and the things they did to me. And then I know the level of pain that they were in in their life. And so I mean it's wild. Like wild. Like so wild. I would just never >> Can you imagine if they did that to like a Tik Tocker to this day and age? They would have 52 Tik Tok >> their address, their name out there.

[01:01:38]Like it just >> Yeah. Like my attorney one time like he was like, "Candy, if you made a video about this one instance, he's like this would go this would go so viral." And I was like, even if this person hurt me, I still want to protect them, you know?

[01:01:52]Like I I want to forgive them in their heart. Even the people that have done really nasty things to me, I was like, I just >> I want to forgive them. And if I saw them again, I want to be the place where I could be like, I hug you and I'm and I forgive you. Even if they don't even ask or some haven't asked. And I'm like, I just forgive you already. Even if I ever see you again, I know you didn't have to apologize, but I already forgive you and I hope you're in a a better place in your life now cuz >> the world is crazy. Like it's just >> that is the craziest thing I've ever heard.

[01:02:20]>> What is >> I don't trust it.

[01:02:21]>> I don't either.

[01:02:22]>> Honestly, she's like and even the people that have wronged me, I forgive. I'm like, [ __ ] you and go [ __ ] yourself.

[01:02:28]That's my problem.

[01:02:30]>> That's my problem until I forget. I'm a forgetful person.

[01:02:33]>> I have those friends, too, that they're like, "Let me have let me go." I'm like, "No, no, no. Do not go. Do not >> do not know their address."

[01:02:40]>> It just It just depends on like the level or how good I'm feeling that day.

[01:02:43]>> Yeah. I mean, >> I'm more forgiving. Some days are hard days.

[01:02:46]>> That's true.

[01:02:46]>> Some days are hard days. Some days are hard. Some days are hard. Some days some days I'm like, I don't even give a [ __ ] I'm so happy.

[01:02:53]>> Yes. The police door like this.

[01:02:57]>> Don't care. Don't care. Didn't steal the car. Don't care. Don't care. Really depends on your vibe.

[01:03:01]>> It does. It depends on what's primed you in your environment. You know what I mean?

[01:03:05]>> I was just pushing you guys cuz I was like older. I feel like I was like this old farther removed. So, I feel like you guys were in the trenches of like everybody was like hanging out and doing things and I was like off over here like I couldn't hang out. I was like doing mom stuff and doing things. So, I felt like I was like a little far removed but I'd be like, "Oh man, they're in the thing."

[01:03:23]>> In the trenches.

[01:03:24]>> In the trenches.

[01:03:25]>> You know what? I've always said on this podcast, the one thing I regret was being so deeply inundated in the trenches cuz I don't think my career needed it.

[01:03:33]>> No.

[01:03:33]>> And like the things I dealt with, you know, being that deeply into >> Was it like the video collabs you think?

[01:03:38]Like cuz I know everybody was collabing with everybody, doing videos with everybody and I didn't really not that I didn't want to, I was just like so busy.

[01:03:45]I didn't have time and I was like how are they doing this? Like are they just at each other's house every how is everybody like being in every other's videos all the time and maybe nobody just asked me? I don't know. But I was like I don't I don't want to How do they do this? It was just seemed like >> it seemed like a lot of work or it was almost just like a very it was smaller than what it is today cuz I don't think there is a community today. I don't think it's like a community, but back then I would say there was probably like 30 of us in LA in Los Angeles specifically.

[01:04:11]>> You knew everybody at a beauty event.

[01:04:13]You'd know everybody at a beauty event.

[01:04:15]>> Everyone. So, it was like that. So, it was almost like you actually had a community and that's why everybody was intertwined and like obviously the more you collab everybody got to grow together and >> it was fun. was like seeing people like cuz I'd be at my house editing by myself all the time and so when I'd go to beauty >> and you'd hear you know everybody talk about their stuff and then I took my daughter uh to a um a rare beauty event and >> it was like the first time >> see No, I didn't see you at that one.

[01:04:42]You might have. It was in like Santa Monica near the water. And it was the first time I walked in. Was that after CO? Maybe.

[01:04:48]>> I think it might have been.

[01:04:49]>> Maybe it was after right after CO. And I walked in and there was so many. It looked like a the most crowded nightclub ever. And I knew about >> one person per every 20 people. And I was like, I don't even know who these people are. And there was so much stuff going on. My daughter was like, this is exhausting. How did you ever go to these? I'm like, they didn't used to be like this. Um, okay. One random question for you, Kanda Johnson.

[01:05:16]What is something the internet would be shocked to know about you?

[01:05:20]>> Oh, the internet would be shocked to know about me. I mean, probably >> I can never answer this question.

[01:05:28]>> I'm like, what? What?

[01:05:29]>> I can't answer that.

[01:05:31]>> Um, >> you know too much already.

[01:05:35]>> I mean, it's hard cuz I don't know.

[01:05:36]Like, I feel like I've shared so much. I don't know what people but people didn't didn't watch the videos from 17 years ago when I said stuff.

[01:05:43]>> Yeah.

[01:05:43]>> 17 years ago.

[01:05:45]>> Yeah.

[01:05:46]>> You better put me in. You better put me out. I'm on here.

[01:05:52]>> Yeah.

[01:05:53]>> 12. That's already a decade.

[01:05:56]>> I'm already tired. Candy. It already feels tired. See, maybe when you get So that's like 12.

[01:06:02]>> So let's see if I started 19. I think I just like slowed down maybe like 20. I think 20 was it 2019 or 20 is when I started >> which is very fair >> and that was a long time doing it you know I was like this is >> the burnout >> it was just so it was exhausted and then I went through you know it was just a point where like you're so tired I was just and it doesn't make sense to people because I've had terrible not terrible jobs but like I've cleaned houses I've been a waitress I worked at orthodontist office you know I've done jobs that like they were tiring But like it was a different level of you could go home when you were done when you were done working and then you didn't have like drama things and like other things to deal with. Like it's hard to deal with hate online a long time. Like >> you you know it's hard to be told you're ugly and you should kill yourself and all the things. No one tells you that on the internet anymore. But like >> no one tells you that at your 9 to5.

[01:06:58]>> You know what I mean? At the ortho honey if I'm in pain I'm TELLING YOU THAT.

[01:07:06]IF I'M GETTING BRACES, you're going to have to kill yourself.

[01:07:09]>> Yeah.

[01:07:10]>> I was never working on a teenager. Like, also, I didn't go to school to be like a dental hygienist or anything. I had been a makeup artist and I had like moved back from LA and my best friend worked at an orthodontist office and like, you know, makeup jobs would be sporadic cuz I wasn't in LA. So, like whenever a celebrity came to town, I would do their makeup or a TV show came to town, I would do it. Um, but she's like in between, she's like, "It'd be so fun if we work together." And I was like, "That would be fun to work with my best friend." And so, it was fun. I it was very fun cuz I was just in scrubs every day and I didn't wear makeup. Also didn't go to school for this. Um but they taught me and I'd be just be like I'd be changing wires. I'd be like taking brackets off. I was I mean we'd check with or the the doctor would come over. I'd be making impressions, doing X-rays, the whole thing.

[01:07:49]>> Never wearing makeup cuz I would just have, you know, teenage boy food like flung up on my face. It was >> oh my goodness.

[01:07:55]>> But nobody ever even when like I accidentally poked somebody with a wire, they were never like I hate you. You're a waste of my life. your voice makes me WANT TO SCRATCH MY eyes out like >> Yeah, correct.

[01:08:06]>> Never like that on the internet and somebody you know >> it's a different kind of work. That's the thing. And I the what I love about >> like us more, you know, seasoned creators is that we have >> worked real jobs.

[01:08:20]>> Oh yeah.

[01:08:21]>> Before >> we have worked in different capacities.

[01:08:23]We've had real jobs. We've lived real experiences and >> gone through some really hard jobs that [ __ ] you know.

[01:08:29]>> So you're so appreciative.

[01:08:31]>> So we appreciate what we have. Yes. And we know how hard it can be.

[01:08:35]>> Oh my gosh. I think that's what made you guys so great because you guys were so grateful and appreciative on things.

[01:08:40]Like even the brand trips. I would be losing my mind. I was never like >> I'd be like, "Are you joking me?"

[01:08:46]>> For one, I didn't have to pay for this hotel room.

[01:08:48]>> I didn't pay for a flight cuz guess how many vacations I went on before I started YouTube? About zero. I couldn't afford a vacation or anything.

[01:08:55]>> And I was like, "This is amazing." And then one time I I won't take say the person's name or anything, but we were at like this brunch thing eating and I remember um some influencers were complaining about the temperature of the food and they were just like these pancakes are not even hot and um and just like saying like not nice things and they were like just complaining about stuff. And then I was with another influencer that I knew had grown up appreciating having food and all kinds of things. And so we were just talking he was like why are they complaining about the temperature of a pancake? And he's like, I grew up I would I would have done anything for a cold pancake.

[01:09:29]Like this is so amazing. For free.

[01:09:30]>> Yeah. For free. I would just have done anything for a pancake. Like and so you just see like the when you've had a hard job or when you see that, you know, like this is I, you know, I would daydream when I was a waitress. I would like have a little notebook that I would like take my orders in and I would write all my business ideas I had. I was like I would go to thrift stores and I'd buy clothes and I was trying to launch a website to like sell all my thrift things and I would like write my business ideas what I was going to call it and I was like one day I'm going to I save up my money and I'm going to tell this boss I quit and I'm never coming back here again to smell like barbecue sauce and I would have all these little things and then and then when I was a makeup artist in LA also I also had to supplement my income so I also worked as a waitress at like a really fancy steakhouse and it was crazy cuz you'd think these wealthy people would tip you well. It was the worst the worst tip ever in my little like >> little like >> barbecue joint restaurant. They tipped way better. And then the wealthy Beverly Hills one >> just like I was like it's the same service. I'm over here being like, "You want some more salt? You want some more pepper? Can I get you anything else? You want some more butter? You want some more bread? I GOT A FREE COTTON CANDY DESSERT I'm going to make you." Like I was just doing all the things.

[01:10:39]>> I just know you wouldn't the best waiter like ever.

[01:10:44]>> Not to my own horn.

[01:10:45]>> No, I know you were great. Like I would be blessed to have you as a lawyer.

[01:10:48]Blessed.

[01:10:48]>> I mean I was like over the top helping people out and it was crazy cuz LA is like city of actors and actresses, you know. So it was crazy like the um >> I was going to it's not an audition for the job. Um there was like I think there were 500 people in line around the block. All actors and actresses like in line. And so I was it was me and my other friend that had also moved to LA and he was an actor and they're like we're hiring two people. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, there's like literally wrapping around the corner." And then my friend didn't get hired. And then it was like me and this older guy got hire were the only ones that were got hired. And it was like rigorous. They were like, "If somebody comes up and they're unhappy with their stake and they want to they want to take it back and they're yelling at you and calling your names.

[01:11:32]How do you handle it?" Like it was like quiz after quiz after quiz of like I was like, "Okay, I'm going to do this."

[01:11:37]They're like, "If this person says this to you, if this person I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is the craziest." I worked at a lot of restaurants. This was a bananas. You're like, "What is this with?"

[01:11:45]>> Yeah. And we have like meetings about the job and it would mostly be like your audition cannot come first before the job. If you you have a shift, you cannot go to your audition. I don't care if it's for a movie. And I was like, "What in the kind of restaurant meeting is this?" Like, it was so crazy. And that one it would be somebody would be like, "I left you a little something on the table." When they'd leave and I'd be like, "Okay, four quarters." I'm like, "You just had a number. You had a $200 dinner and you left me four quarters.

[01:12:12]One time it was in a water glass. She put the quarters inside of a water glass. I'm not joking you.

[01:12:17]>> I was like, "Why did you put it in a glass?" Like to make sure nobody took it. And they're like, "Me, make sure you fish those quarters out of here."

[01:12:22]>> Quarters.

[01:12:23]>> She put four quarters in a water.

[01:12:25]>> This was a fancy steakhouse. Nothing was under $100. And I'm like, "You left me."

[01:12:29]They gave free coupons cuz the restaurant had just opened. They gave everybody a free steak. So I was like, "Let me let me guess. You want to drink water and you like a free basket of bread and your free steak?" That's exactly what it was.

[01:12:39]>> Like, are we done with these coupons, sir? Because I am not making any money.

[01:12:44]>> Dang.

[01:12:45]>> Like, I'm a single mom over here. Okay.

[01:12:47]Just >> No. Literally, that's crazy.

[01:12:49]>> That is crazy.

[01:12:50]>> The water thing is insane. I've never heard that.

[01:12:51]>> Yeah. So, what's going on today, Candy?

[01:12:54]Is influencers don't know what that's like.

[01:12:57]>> Really? Straight from they've never experienced that.

[01:13:01]>> They either dropped out of high school and college and went straight become an influencer with no job. with no job. So there's no there's like a wall there.

[01:13:09]There's no perspective.

[01:13:10]>> I feel like it goes pretty quickly for people too. Like they get like a mansion and a very fancy thing. That was a long >> It was a no journeys like that were in my story. It was just like >> like the first brand deal. I remember they're like, "What do you what do you charge? What do we pay you?" And nobody there were no brand deals yet. So nobody knew. There was no this is what you get paid for views. I was like, "I don't know. Do you want to give me $100? Do you want to do the budget? I don't >> Can you send me like a big box of just free makeup? Like I didn't know what to do until like >> later it was like agents, managers, managers just for beauty people. I was like what is this? Is the world the craziest >> the craziest thing.

[01:13:50]>> Every creator should work a regular job before.

[01:13:52]>> It should be a requirement.

[01:13:55]>> What was your worst job?

[01:13:56]>> My worst job?

[01:13:57]>> Yeah.

[01:13:58]>> Or your least favorite?

[01:14:00]>> I think when I was hosting it was probably like my least favorite.

[01:14:03]>> Like at a restaurant. Mhm.

[01:14:04]>> That would be >> cuz it went from like host to waiter.

[01:14:06]Like it was like we had to transition.

[01:14:07]>> People get mad. They get mad at us and they will get so mad >> like aggro at the host cuz it's like you're the host.

[01:14:13]>> They're the front facing person.

[01:14:14]>> If you tell them there's a wait time, they're mad.

[01:14:16]>> They're like, "Fuck." So I >> And the servers are mad at you, too.

[01:14:18]Like you sat someone in their section.

[01:14:20]You feel bad.

[01:14:21]>> You didn't sat them there. I'm like, "Girl, get the fuck."

[01:14:23]>> They're like, "I've had three tables.

[01:14:24]She's had four tables. Why don't I have I feel that?"

[01:14:27]>> It was a lot of like Jesus. Like I It was very overwhelm. The thing is what was nice about that is that like once I left that job I didn't work like >> but you're so friendly. I could see you were the best host. I bet you were so friendly.

[01:14:36]>> I was a great host. I was a great waiter. Like I that was I was very good at doing those things. I've always been >> You would be a great waiter. I would want you as my waiter and I got tipped boots and I worked What was nice about it is I worked in the gay area of San Diego called Hillrest.

[01:14:49]>> So it was fun because I was like firstly coming out >> and I worked in the gay area. I was like shown the gay world in a way you know >> and it was like pleasant.

[01:14:57]>> Yeah. It was nice.

[01:14:58]>> Yeah. What was yours?

[01:15:00]>> Oh my god, there were so many.

[01:15:01]>> There's just so many.

[01:15:02]>> I did, you guys. I had a lot of jobs. I did everything. I think I would switch jobs every year cuz they was just all bad jobs, you know?

[01:15:09]>> What was like what was like the one that you just really did not you it was really hard to go there every day?

[01:15:14]>> Uh Dick Sporting Goods.

[01:15:16]>> You were at Dick Sporting Goods.

[01:15:17]>> I did.

[01:15:18]>> Where were you at cash register? Were you like the sales?

[01:15:20]>> Started as cash register, moved up to a front-end coordinator, which means you're overall the cash register. moved to apparel, moved to cuz I hated working with customers. You know, customers are tough. Like that is going to be the toughest part of the job is working with the public because you're going to get a crazy angry person every day. Every day they're all insane. Like these people are insane at a and you would be like a sporting goods store, but no, it's like it doesn't matter where you going to catch the crazies like every single time. So I finally my favorite position which I finally made at Dicks was unloading the trucks at 5:00 a.m.

[01:15:53]THEY COME IN I WAS IN HEAVEN BY YOURSELF.

[01:15:56]>> I WAS IN HEAVEN. I WAS LIKE, go in at 3:00 a.m., you know, working when the store's opening. Get out of there.

[01:16:03]>> You You Your little fragile self is lifting all the boxes.

[01:16:07]>> You have no idea.

[01:16:08]>> This is why you're saying you have muscle memory from that.

[01:16:10]>> Monster. Yeah. Yes. I was a monster. I used to load that cardboard into the compactor, rip those boxes apart. And the people that were doing it before me, cuz you there was no manager. like you were just there doing it with a couple of guys in the back. So, everybody did whatever they were lazy like did whatever they wanted. Like you didn't have to really work cuz there was no boss cuz it's too early. So, I saw that and I hate it. I working in the front as a cash register is the worst job in the store cuz you have to deal with every single customer face to face. All the ick all the >> friendly experience of the Dick Sporting Goods. And when you're apparel, you still have to deal with customers and their craziness. But when you're the cashier, you have to deal with every customer >> cuz they're probably complaining about the person that helped them then the apparel department to you. And and Dick Sporting Goods sells guns. So I'm talking about we're doing gun. Like in Alabama, you can literally go to 7-Eleven and get a [ __ ] gun. So yeah, we sell guns. So I would have to fill out paperwork this long checking their background. Crazy. They would try to make us sell credit cards to people. OH, THEY WANT TO SELL MY [ __ ] is the worst.

[01:17:17]>> And then they would be like, "Oh, they bought a treadmill. Get the warranty."

[01:17:21]Like, get the And I'm like, "Bitch, I'm 18. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.

[01:17:27]>> I tried a treadmill. I GOT LIKE $5 MY ACCOUNT." SO, that was like the worst.

[01:17:33]And then you had to have like at this store like a 97% on scorecards, which is just the little rewards, you know, number phone number. So, I used to take whenever a customer was like, "I don't want that." and shut me down real quick.

[01:17:43]I'm like, "You're going to get me my hours cut." You're like, "You would take a yes and then not do it later." I had all kinds of I had every trick and they would call me back in the office and chew my ass out cuz I was scamming the system. I would just take a scorecard, scan it, and throw it in their bag and be like, "Fill it out later." BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

[01:18:02]>> SO, AS YOU can imagine, I was like fighting my way to get out of that [ __ ] and get to work in the back of the store. But, so I would say be like being a cashier. And here is the gag of the gag. So I did that in Alabama and then I worked at wine stores, child care, waitresses, I mean everything. I worked at doctor's office for 4 and a half years in a medical assistant trained on the job like you.

[01:18:21]>> What kind of doctor?

[01:18:22]>> Dermatologist cutting out skin cancer.

[01:18:24]>> Oh, crazy job. Love that job. That job was not bad. But um it was bad, >> but it's like a heavy thing. Like skin cancer is serious. It's not like a light like fluffy like Yeah.

[01:18:35]>> So that was another job. But I whenever I moved to California cuz I wanted to be a content creator. So, I moved out here with Ty and I had to go back to Dick Sporting Goods as a cashier.

[01:18:44]>> When you were out here?

[01:18:46]>> No, you did not.

[01:18:46]>> Yes, I did. It was the only job I could get cuz I was like I I worked there before. So, I was able to get and I had to go back as a [ __ ] cashier >> and I did that for 6 months and I got my YouTube channel to catch enough wind.

[01:18:58]>> You're like, I'm going to be posting five times a day. Get me out. It's like compared to the [ __ ] I'm back in after being a medical assistant for 4 and a half years making, you know, I think I could buy more money than that. I had to go, you know, revert back to the worst job ever. I just had to do it cuz we didn't have enough money out. It's expensive out here.

[01:19:17]>> Alabama.

[01:19:18]>> Oh my gosh, the gas prices I just saw yesterday. I was like, >> yeah, >> the rest of the country would have a heart attack. This is crazy.

[01:19:24]>> Yes. So, I had to go back and I had to be a cashier again. Humble.

[01:19:28]>> The most freaking car. Oh, you were posting online, too? Oh my. Did anybody ever recognize you >> all the time?

[01:19:34]>> Actually, I was quite a small creator, but I would get the occasional person come through my line.

[01:19:39]>> Oh my gosh.

[01:19:39]>> Isn't that Laura? Isn't that the craziest thing you've ever experienced?

[01:19:42]>> Yeah. And I would tell all the other employees in the store how I'm going to be a famous YouTuber and I'm on my way out. I was dead on the dollar, too. I was like, I'm not going to be here alone. So, my accent was like this. I was like, I'm not going to be here very long cuz I am.

[01:19:57]>> Just so you know.

[01:19:59]>> Just I don't work here anymore.

[01:20:01]>> Just so you know. Just so you know. I sure did. It's 6 months.

[01:20:06]>> I do like this.

[01:20:08]>> Yeah. You have to tell the people. You have to tell the people.

[01:20:11]>> You have to tell them. You have to manifest it for yourself, too. It was.

[01:20:13]>> I was in first grade and I did not like the school I was in. And I asked my mom to homeschool me every single day. Every day I would go to school and I'd be like, "I'm not going to see you guys tomorrow because my mom's going to homeschool me." And I will be I will not so I'm going to say bye to you guys cuz I won't be here. Guess who was there the next day? I'm like I mean it. Tomorrow is the day. This is the last day on the playground. If you want to play with me, that's it.

[01:20:35]>> So if you want to go on the swing, you want me to push you hard? This is the last day. I was still there the next day.

[01:20:40]>> I was like, "Oh my god." So how long did that last?

[01:20:41]>> Mom, get me out of here, please.

[01:20:44]Did she?

[01:20:45]>> Yeah. She finally got me out of there at the end. I was like, "Thank the Lord, Mom.

[01:20:48]>> I've been telling all these [ __ ] I'm not coming back. All these first graders every day, this the last jelly lunch you're going to smell from me. And I would be there the next day.

[01:20:56]>> And I know they're looking at you like this.

[01:20:58]>> No.

[01:20:58]>> I'm like, you may have locked me in the bathroom yesterday. You're not. I'm going to be here. I'm going to be locked in the bathroom tomorrow. And then >> kids are cool though. Kids are sick and >> Oh, they were so mean. So mean.

[01:21:08]>> They got locked in the bathroom in kindergarten.

[01:21:10]>> Are you serious? You >> two girls. It was two girls. They were best friends. And they would lock me in the bathroom.

[01:21:16]>> Girls got you too. And I got held back because my teacher didn't feel like I was evolving enough to go to first grade.

[01:21:24]>> But I was so [ __ ] up in the head. Like I couldn't even speak. Like I couldn't even like >> get it out. Like they're locking me in the bathroom every day.

[01:21:32]>> Who? How? I don't know how these little kids.

[01:21:34]>> How did they even know? We were in kindergarten.

[01:21:36]>> They're already at home. They're like >> They turned the lights off on me. So, and there weren't windows. So, I was in the dark and they're just yelling until like the janitor heard me. And they did that. What was that thing in the you do in the mirror? the m the the scary thing something that terrified me. So I'm terrified in the dark just screaming like help me. Yes. And I was LIKE HELP ME HELP ME.

[01:21:57]>> Been there. I'm like been there.

[01:21:59]>> I'm like you got to get me out of this.

[01:22:01]These girls are mean.

[01:22:03]>> It's crazy how they know that young to like even do that.

[01:22:05]>> That's what I'm saying. I feel like I'm like that's learned behavior. You don't just like >> Yeah. There's so many laws you live in houses.

[01:22:10]>> Yeah. You don't just think that. You see that, you learn it. It's something.

[01:22:13]>> Yeah. So I feel you on that. I'm not going to be here. And then I think even in my waitress >> same at Mac I was the exact same.

[01:22:20]>> Were you telling me you were going to leave at Mac every day?

[01:22:22]>> I was like you guys, >> you know, I didn't get hired permanent.

[01:22:24]I'm a freelancer. So you're just it's not I'm just not going to last.

[01:22:28]>> How long were you there?

[01:22:29]>> A year.

[01:22:30]>> What?

[01:22:30]>> I was there. I was freelancing for a year. Sephora and San Diego. Sephora first for a year. MAC for a year. And then >> I feel like Mac is such a good job.

[01:22:38]>> One shift. One shift. I got recognized maybe like 12 times.

[01:22:41]>> Wow. I was doing I was doing Instagram at the time already. You already I was like doing it >> and I remember when I was like I'm getting clocked too much >> and they're like I've seen those eyes before >> I would No. And they would you guys you guys they would be like don't post your Mac stuff like that you're wearing Mac.

[01:23:01]Yeah. Mac was very like Mac was so like >> prestigious and so cool and I would be posting things >> Dallas cow girls not allowed to have Instagram. Work for Mac. can't post my like it was very late because they didn't want the responsibility of what you're posting like they didn't want it's a risk it's a risk you know you're because they're like but nowadays it's like so post your Mac >> oh it was so when I was first doing makeup like I was still doing make freelance makeup while I was starting my blog and my YouTube stuff and I remember I worked on a couple toy commercials doing kids makeup and it was like really fun hair and makeup I did so I was like I'll post this on my blog oh my gosh the the uh like the director called me and he's like Candy, you cannot post. You need to take all that down. You cannot.

[01:23:43]And I was like, it was so funny cuz this was like 2009. And then it was so funny like years later, like people were just like, "Please, will you post a photo shoot? Will you pro?" I was like, "How funny. The tables have turned where they like >> MAC was one of the latest brands to hop on, which is so sad cuz it's a cosmetics youthful fun brand, but they were one of the latest Esteee Lauder latest brands to hop on.

[01:24:07]>> They were still like prestigious. You'd still go into the Mac stores back in the day and the Mac employees would either be super friendly or they'd be like, >> "You got one or the other >> looking at you like >> you got a 50/50 chance."

[01:24:16]>> They're like, "That's not your color."

[01:24:18]And I'm like, "This is my color."

[01:24:19]>> Great. Get out.

[01:24:20]>> I know my color. Okay, just like >> I was one of the nice ones.

[01:24:24]>> I'm like 5050. There was like the nice ones that would be your bestie. They would like know your colors. They would help you find anything. If it was out, they'd make you a sample. Like you were probably that one. And then there's the other one like just staring at you from the corner. They're like, "Do you hate everybody in Zor?" You know what's funny is Mac hired me to launch their Snapchat. They didn't have a Snapchat yet. So, they hired me to go to New York at fashion week and I was supposed to do this fashion show. I think it was Betsy Johnson. I can't remember. And they were like, "And this is going to be the official launch of Mac having a Snapchat." And so, I had like all these things filmed. Yeah. And so, they put this, they didn't know the settings back then. So, they put these like settings because I'm like, >> I couldn't post till after the show. So, they put this safety setting. I was going to capture everything and then I was going to hit this thing and it was going to go live all the posts. So I'm there doing every snap they're asking me to do the whole thing. We leave and I hand her the phone. I had like some one of their phones and the girl accidentally deletes all of the all of the things I had snapped cuz she didn't know the settings. They didn't know.

[01:25:21]They didn't have a Snapchat yet.

[01:25:23]>> And I'm just like standing on the street in New York while this girl is getting like screamed at and like the brand I I felt so uncomfortable. I was just like I I so we don't know nobody knows. It was so awkward and uncomfortable. They had nothing. None of the stuff.

[01:25:38]>> It just goes to show back to Mac just like doesn't know what they're doing. I mean they're just lazy and they didn't know what they were doing.

[01:25:44]>> That would have been HELPFUL IF A SNAPCHAT person was here to help.

[01:25:46]>> Yes. Not a random employee that doesn't run Snapchat. You know what I mean? Like that's the kind of And then they've paid for you to come out. They have you hired on the job set and it's all for nothing because they don't know what they're doing >> and they're like, "We're going to have you go to this thing after and we're going to have a Mac." Yes. Help them.

[01:26:01]>> Yes.

[01:26:01]>> And they're like, "We're going to have you go get your makeup done by this Mac person. You're going to capture this now." And I was like, "All right, fine.

[01:26:06]We'll go." Okay. Well, before you leave, we want to play a really quick game of this or that.

[01:26:10]>> Okay.

[01:26:11]>> Mhm.

[01:26:11]>> So, are you ready?

[01:26:13]>> Maybe.

[01:26:17]>> Old school YouTube or Tik Tok?

[01:26:19]>> Old school YouTube.

[01:26:20]>> You have to SAY THAT. I LIKE MY HEART.

[01:26:22]IT'S my heart. It's like >> filming a tutorial or filming a vlog.

[01:26:28]>> Ooh. Oh. I mean, I love a tutorial because it's so step by step and I love teaching, but it's a lot of work to edit. So, for ease, I'm saying vlog. You just be like, "Whatever."

[01:26:40]>> Love it.

[01:26:42]>> Um, a viral challenge or a get ready with me?

[01:26:45]>> Oh my.

[01:26:48]Oh, I mean viral challenges are fun, but I think I I'm just going to go towards the get ready with >> justifies every Disneyland or beach day.

[01:27:02]>> Oh, shoot. If it's hot, I'm going to beach day. If it's a nice winter day, Disneyland.

[01:27:07]>> Perfect.

[01:27:08]>> Yeah, I do not like Disneyland on a hot day.

[01:27:10]>> Hell no.

[01:27:10]>> Wear glitter everywhere forever or never get to wear glitter again.

[01:27:16]>> Okay. I've had glitter get in my eye several times. So, I'm going never wear just for the safety of that glitter experience in my eye. I was like, I'M GONNA GO BLIND BECAUSE OF THE GLITTER EYE SHADOW.

[01:27:26]>> Correct answer, coffee or matcha?

[01:27:28]>> Coffee.

[01:27:29]>> Only use one makeup product forever.

[01:27:34]>> Okay. Mascara or lip gloss? So, mascara.

[01:27:36]>> Okay. Love it.

[01:27:37]>> I don't want to be looking little beady eyes. I need like some Yes.

[01:27:43]Um, online shopping or in store?

[01:27:47]>> Online only because you can get things you can't get in store. But I do not want to get a shoe or something I can't try on. Like I just want to know. Or makeup. I online makeup purchasing scares me unless I know exactly what I want. Like it's so hard. Um, at home bare or it says glam at home or being out and about barefaced?

[01:28:08]>> Both are torture. are so big.

[01:28:10]>> I feel like I'm out and about without makeup all the time, but I wish I honestly wish I look good cuz it'll always be when I look like garbage trash can and I'm awful somewhere and somebody's like, "Are you candy?" I'm like, >> "Oh, >> oh >> no. Now picture." And I was like, >> "Okay," and I'm always like, "If you see me again, I'll like find me." So I'll take I'll try to put makeup on next time so I don't look like this wah in your picture. You're like, "Wow, she looks like sweaty and skin discoloration freckles all over." I don't have the cute freckles. They're like not fake. They're like in Nobody wants freckles down here, but that's how they really are. They're not really just right here.

[01:28:49]>> I have some of those, too.

[01:28:51]>> I don't uh lose your entire makeup collection or your entire camera roll.

[01:28:58]>> Oh, I'm going with makeup collection.

[01:29:00]Makeup.

[01:29:01]>> Same.

[01:29:02]>> Texting or voice notes?

[01:29:05]I love a voice note, but I don't think people love listening to a voice note.

[01:29:09]So, >> unlike Candy, yes, you're my kind of people.

[01:29:13]>> I love a voice.

[01:29:14]>> But you can feel people's excitement.

[01:29:15]You can feel their humor. You can tell like their whatever. And it's like more real like best friend voice time.

[01:29:22]>> I just leave longer ones and people probably they're like, I don't want to hear 1 minute and 31 seconds of you talking. I'M LIKE, BYE-BYE.

[01:29:30]>> THAT'S literally me.

[01:29:31]>> GOOD MORNING.

[01:29:34]THAT IS YOU.

[01:29:35]>> YOU TOO.

[01:29:35]>> That is me >> with me though. Like she she was in her waist.

[01:29:38]>> I do. Okay. And the last one, heels or sneakers?

[01:29:43]>> Sneakers all the time. I mean, you guys have seen me at beauty events. I'd be the only one that looked like I could go run a marathon or I just have like baggy tomboy clothes on and I'd be like cocktail dress was the attire. Okay, cool.

[01:29:53]>> Like, oh, okay. Well, I'm in.

[01:29:55]>> Great. I've got platform sneakers.

[01:30:00]>> They have a heel.

[01:30:01]>> That counts. It came back. But like back in the day, I was always like going to events and I'm like, I don't have an the stretchy bandage dress like everybody has. I didn't have all >> the things.

[01:30:12]>> And then bless my mom. She was like, you always you go with your style like you've had since you were kindergarten.

[01:30:17]I'm like, I had weird outfits, mom.

[01:30:19]Thanks. Okay.

[01:30:20]>> Great. Thank you so much.

[01:30:22]>> Well, thank you so much for coming on full coverage. Thank you guys for having so much fun.

[01:30:28]>> Anytime you need the extra E, I can just squeeze right.

[01:30:32]I'll go work out to the gym and I'll go on some extra runs so I get extra fitting and >> absolutely. Thank you so so so much. We appreciate >> you guys so much. I'm so honored you guys wanted to have me here.

[01:30:42]>> Thank you so much. And we'll leave of course everything linked down below. You guys check out Candy's page. She's absolutely incredible. Amazing.

[01:30:47]Obviously you just watch.

[01:30:48]>> Thank you. No cutesy name, just my name every just Katie Johnson >> which is cutesy.

[01:30:52]>> It is first and last name just out there on the internet. Just know >> her social security number. Literally.

[01:31:00]Literally.

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[01:31:06]>> We'll see you guys next one. Bye.

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