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Hey guys, welcome back to our second ever episode. It's your boy Amea >> and I'm Akash >> and we're here to give you another banger today. So, I think today's dynamic is going to be a little different. I think um in case you don't know, Amea Akash, I'm sure most of you can guess, but uh but both uh two Indians that are growing up in this country that we call England. Um and I feel like I don't know about you, but I feel like growing up in this country with the culture that I have, >> it is very different. It's very different. like straight away growing up in school. Um you know like obviously looking around you you're the only person with that skin color most of the time. Um and then like sort of the pressure sometimes parents put on and stuff like that. There's different sort of lifestyles that we live in comparison to the people that I've grown up with.
Uh I'm also a Hindu and do you want to tell them?
>> Yeah. Um so for those that don't know I'm what you call a Jane which is basically like you could say it's sort of a Hindu but it's a sort of branch as a different religion. Um, so yeah, I'll quickly talk a little bit about that actually. Yeah. So we traditionally when we eat, we are pure vegetarian. So that's a vegetarian, but you just don't have eggs as well. Um, and you also don't eat root vegetables.
>> So it's like mush Oh, I think some people don't have mushrooms, but onions, potatoes, garlic, all of that stuff.
>> Um, personally for me, I can't live without like Walker's crisp. So I'm not Jane.
>> I have mad respect for the people that do. I have mad respect.
>> But yeah, defin like So there's a few members in my family that do as well. um that they have like a strict Jane diet.
So when they eat it's it's crazy.
>> And I just feel like it extends a bit more beyond diet as well. There's so much to it like >> and even growing up in school like growing up as a vegetarian in primary school, high school, >> you're always there. You're being that one person in that queue that sort of just asked for like, "Oh yeah, can I have the vegetarian dish today, please?"
And everyone's looking at you, "What?
You don't a pork sausage, babe?"
>> Literally, because I went to um a Catholic primary school, so I was literally the only brown kid there. And I remember like I was the like I had to get a separate meal on the side like it would always be on the side for me.
>> It's just it's just long. And then but at the same time too I feel like never at any point actually maybe at first I was a bit shy and a bit embarrassed by it but as I grew up I learned to actually appreciate my culture a lot more.
>> Oh yeah definitely. And like the I don't know I don't know about you but my m my biggest drawback in this when I was like younger in school was the way that I was sort of taught about my culture and the sort of religion and stuff like that.
>> I think in Hinduism especially a lot of the stuff that you grow up with it's a lot about like elephant god and all this and all that and sometimes you think to yourself that >> that's not what it's about. And like sometimes you really do want to sort of speak up about it, but at the same time you don't want to be that one guy in school and there's this sort of stigma that you can't really speak up and stuff like that.
>> But yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Did you feel like you experienced that as well when you're younger? Like >> a little bit stuff like that. I mean, I got thrown straight into Jane school, what we call it was called bad.
>> So it was when I was a kid, so I got thrown straight into it. So I didn't really get an opinion of whether I wanted to or not, but I enjoyed it. Like I learned so much about my own culture that I didn't know myself. Um, and I felt like when I was younger, I took it for granted. But when I I think especially uni when I joined like my first Hindu song, I think that's what made me become less of a coconut as >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's so many coconuts nowadays, bro. You look at what is it? North Gerba, bro. I feel like that's changed so much, man. The concept of Gerba is meant to be so beautiful sometimes and nowadays it's just Love Island, bro.
>> It's literally Love Island. That's what people come there for. And they come to Gerba for like the wrong aspect. That's what I'm saying. So bad.
>> That's what I'm saying, man. the the culture sort of shifted a lot but if you look at what Navatri is in its core it's a very beautiful concept actually >> and um I think that's one thing that if I could spread the word about it just try and learn about something to do with your culture before you go attend that event so never actually learn about it why are we doing garba why are we doing dandia stuff like that and I feel like people might absorb the essence but obviously you have that thing about you want to be my dandia partner and all this and then people just be dropping mad game at garba events now man it's not right >> they come they're coming with these like new dandia moves to try to res Yeah, [laughter] >> but be doing proper 360iness.
>> N Yeah, it does get like that sometimes, man. It does get like that.
>> But I just feel like in general that um I don't know like like you said, you might have experienced in your Jane school, but in my high school especially, there was a lot of things that like that weren't right and um very grateful to Som for this as well. But when we started that Hindu Sakar School started up with Harish as well in my first school that really brought a lot of stuff in. So managed to change the curriculum with the way education was taught and like we had all these cultural events Diwali the makers and stuff like that and I feel like through that whole process people started to understand that look this is this is something that we just can't tolerate as disrespectful and all it took was starting a little society and a few of us going to the school member and school board and sort of saying like look this is not right like let us change this and stuff like that and I think little things like that are very powerful man they do they do >> 100% like I think nowadays people who got who don't really have a club for their own like whatever they want. They don't really try and start it. They try to join it. But the fact that you guys tried starting one as well. It's created something very like big.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I agree. And speaking of not being proud of your culture, I feel like also you should tell the people about your skills with Bangra, man.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Do you want to get into it?
>> Yeah. Yeah, I can do.
>> If you don't know, Akash is a bit of a pro bango player, man.
>> Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of the screw the liel as people say nowadays.
>> Screw the liel to a different level.
Gors some clips here, man. Let the people see.
>> Yeah. So um I first so one of my best mates called Udro he started it you know him as well. Um >> yeah so it was in >> he started it in Liverpool.
>> He started in Liverpool. I think it was his first year. Um I think his sister did it as well. Um so I just like everyone knew that he was a sort of the bunker guy as well. Um and then in second year he came to our university cuz there's like a bunker event there like a crossover between Manny and Liverpool and I got dragged to it >> and of course has to be done.
>> It was the biggest humbling leg of my life but yeah cuz I'm the type of guy that doesn't really like being bad at stuff. Um, I just I wanted to get into it more, so I joined the classes. I was still pretty bad. I think bangra is not a thing where you can be naturally good at it.
>> Um, it's so hard. I don't know how you do. You look so good.
>> No, mate. Let's not do this. Are we getting into double G straight away, bro? We just started.
>> Actually, you name it.
>> Yeah, I love double A, bro. I keep saying double G podcast, man. Double G podcast. No, but yeah, it's just I think it's also impressive, Akasha, like you especially being a Gujarati background going to something that's more Punjabi dominated. I I see all the Bangla videos and how techy people are, but >> I think you should tell that it's not it's not just for like Punjabi.
>> It does feel very weird. Yeah, it's it's so weird because like there's still like not that many Hindus or like even Janes that are doing Bangra, it's all Punjabi lot. So when they're all talking sometimes you do feel left out and I was I I felt very left out because in our society back there when I started there was only girls as well.
>> Yeah.
>> So I was always in that little corner until I started getting better and better then I moved to the front.
>> I've seen I've seen the Punjabi people do Bangla man. They're techy man. It's crazy.
>> I actually didn't realize how big of a culture there is for it in the UK, especially ever since I came to LRA and I'm hearing about LRA Bang and I'm hearing about all these comps. What do you know about that, man?
>> It's insane. So, you know how we have nationals for our Hindu sock? It's like that they have that each year at this thing called the Bangra Showdown or TBS.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I think I've seen on Instagram. Yeah. Yeah.
>> It's big. Like even people that don't even know about Bangla, they know about this event because it's just so live.
You have so many famous people coming to like perform there and dance as well now. Um but yeah, there's these teams like Queen Mary, Kingston used to be so good back in the day as well. But yeah, LRA are popping off right now.
>> And you've do you have like stuff like big names in it? Like >> Yeah, we have Himut in there who is >> Oh, okay. Nice.
>> Yeah, he's >> the people from LRO by the way. That's crazy.
>> So like so like how does the competition work? How do you like score it? Like who becomes the best and stuff like that?
>> Um so I think there's like around 10 judges. I probably have got this one but um and they also have like shadow judges on the side. So they're looking at stuff like your uniform. They're looking at each pairs because you have these pairs called jawis. So you're in little colors. Um so they judge you based off that. They judge you based off of your nakra which is your personality.
>> I think that's why I love bangra so much because you can actually show your personality while you're dancing. I think that's what I love.
>> And I can't lie. It's proper techy man.
The way these people do it, bro. I used to think garba was look at people doing bangra. I can't lie. It's a different ball game.
>> If you think like sports is mad for stamina, bangra and dancing is just a completely different level of stamina.
>> But it's just you're hopping so much as well, right?
>> For 8 minutes. It's >> They must have some mad calves. Yeah.
>> Oh, insane. [laughter] Yo, >> leg day. Just do bang, man.
>> K and bango together. It's crazy.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And I think that's that's so good though. Like you you literally stepped out of your comfort zone at uni and just sort of stepped out and then just decided to join a society that sort of not something that was directly appealing to you. And I think that's what that's what a lot of people should start doing as well. It's like it's like >> definitely get out your comfort zone.
Like if your friends are dragging you to something, you might not like it. Go for them. But then if you end up liking a bit or if you if you feel like you're really bad at it, try and get better at it because you'll end up loving it. And I think arguably I've made some of like my closest friends from joining it as well.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And then I can't lie, the way this guy blew up in two years when it came to Bangra, man. Serious levels, man. Serious levels. I remember seeing Akash's clip from when he first started.
It was like in your uni like kitchen in your first day kitchen. And then next thing you know, he's president or vice president of the site or something like that. That's nuts.
>> Vice president. And then yeah, that Tik Tok blew up actually.
>> Oh, really? Oh, nice. Nice. But yeah, no, we just tried stalling it in Manchester and I think we got a lot more boys joining which is what I wanted as well. So it was so good. Like it's so good seeing that like you used to be taught and now you're the teacher teaching other people.
>> Yeah. Such a sick feeling.
>> Literally that's what I'm saying.
>> Well, let's move on a bit. Yeah.
>> I had a question to you.
>> Have you ever I assume you have friends that aren't Indian. I hope so at least.
And um do you not feel like when you talk to them the sort of lifestyle is sort of slightly different in the sense of like growing up pressure when it comes to exams and stuff like that because I feel like there's certain things common within Indian household.
One of the biggest things is talking like let's just talk about it now. Yeah.
>> What time you get home, bro? What are you saying about that?
>> I mate, I didn't even get to go out the house, >> bro. It's like such a mission, bro.
You're the [laughter] I'mma do my home. Do my >> Every day I look outside the window just seeing people. [laughter] >> I'm there crying, bro. Let me out. Let me out. Give me the freedom, man. Yeah.
Honestly, it gets like that. And you I feel like as well >> that pressure is there sometimes in that in the Indian household. And um I think that's so common with a lot of people as well. I've spoken to a lot of my mates.
They all say the same thing as well. And it's like just you have to work so hard for that bit of freedom. But I feel like there's a certain age there's a certain age where >> there that element of freedom does sort of open up a bit as you get older.
>> Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And you're so right like it comes more later on.
>> Yeah, definitely.
>> Yeah. I think I think that's just our culture now.
>> Yeah. Yeah. 100%. For those young listeners, just wait, bro. Hey, it's a lie at the end of the day.
>> Time is coming. Time is coming. Don't worry. Don't We know how difficult it is.
>> And um Yeah, man. I have some I have some mad stories about coming back later, bro. If you're if you're 10 minutes late, oh, best believe you're in the doghouse, man. GG, bro. Just best believe you're avoiding eye contact with your parents for the next 24 hours, bro.
>> It's It's serious, man. It's serious.
>> You come back home later then like you'd hope like no one like everyone's asleep and stuff, but my my dad would be in my bed way if I'm open. just staring at you like this.
You're like better. [laughter] >> You know you're cooked. You know you're cooked. And it does get like that, man.
It does get like that. But at the same time, certain times those boundaries are a good thing. I do feel it's not it's not necessarily a bad thing. Um and it it is needed when you look at society nowadays. A lot of the times nowadays, societies are like >> failing because a lot of the kids are sort of doing other stuff and stuff they should be. But I'm a big believer in having a good time as well. And I feel like there should always be an optimal balance about um how much freedom you get and how much you should as well. And that's why I'm very grateful for the way my parents bought me.
>> 100% same. Like I have no regrets at all. I wouldn't change one thing.
>> 100%. And sometimes as much as you hate it, the lesson is needed in it. The lesson is needed.
>> If you think about it, if none of that happened, we wouldn't be like how we are right now.
>> That's literally what I'm thinking.
>> Yeah.
>> And that that's what it is.
>> Uh what else, man? What else? What else you got to say in it?
>> Um I don't know. I think Do you think it's part of like the generations really? that's why they've made us like raises like that.
>> I feel like as well like modern culture as well, parents are a lot more lenient now because there's a lot of more second genen what you could say [clears throat] British Indians in the UK. Um I feel like I know my older brother probably had it much harder than I did. Um but I feel like as time's gone on and a lot of the sort of motives you could say with your mates is just about going out to the park and then like chilling and stuff like that. Like I feel like parents have become more lenient. But um I think over time it has sort of freed up a bit. So >> yeah.
>> What is you think then it starts like what is you think they start giving you more freedom?
>> So let's let's break it down. I feel like there's stages to the game. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I feel like when you get into high school there's that okay study study study GCSE GCSE GCSE. Then you get into six form and then they start to see okay he's done his GCSEs. there needs to be a bit more level of like trust there now that he's A level's coming in but we're still going to be on his case and I feel like a lot of time once that once they go to uni it's just full freedom. I feel like now ever since I come back from uni my parents have a lot more trust in me and it's more just like sometimes I don't have to tell them when I'm leaving the house and stuff like that because they have that trust just when are you coming back and I just let them know I'm coming back at this time. Sometimes I still break that and sometimes they still do get vexed. It's not like it ever leaves all the >> lie. My dad literally said, "Message me when you come today and I forgot to me."
>> I'm so tend [laughter] to home safely. All prayers. All prayers. But yeah, no, I feel like there's ever since I went to uni, that's when I've noticed that it's finally opened up. So, like age wise, we're talking an element of trust comes in once you enter high school. So, 12. And then once GCCs are done, there's another level unlocked of 16. And then once you're at uni, I'm I'm at that point now where I think like yeah, there's there's a lot of trust there now. And um and I think it is it should be like that because there's only so much they can do that eventually. You're living by yourself. You're not only you living by yourself, you have to make your own choices. Your parents aren't going to be there forever. So like they're not going to always be there to surround you and tell you what to do. So you have to learn when to make the right and wrong decisions yourself. And they know after a certain point all they can do is guide you. They can't really enforce anything because >> I'm living by myself right now. So like >> they have to have that element of trust anyway. So when I do come back to see them and stuff like that, that trust is there.
>> I think they know from like uni especially that gives you the sort of it's like a test. That's that's the biggest test that you get. See if you can handle life by yourself.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean.
>> I think this is why like I tell most people and urge like most people to try and get out of the city for uni as well cuz there's so many people that have been trapped in their own house and they haven't really got much freedom and they don't really learn anything new as well.
So I think that's a big thing as well. I think if you can move out and I think it's very common in brown households anyways to move out and I don't blame you. I wanted to move out as well.
>> And yeah, it's definitely a good thing if you make the most of it, you still don't go down the wrong paths. It's definitely worth >> 100%. I had to fight my case before I went to uni because my brother didn't really go to um university outside of the city. My dad was like, "Yeah, the same thing. Do that." But and especially because I was studying film production as well.
>> Oh my god. Brown, >> bro. How did you get away with that one, bro? [laughter] >> I'm supposed to stand in here, bro. My dad was never thinking I was a failure.
But um No, no, no. Jokes aside, he >> Yeah.
>> I was going to say, no, no, he's still letting me. He still had that trust in me and I think I proved it right now.
This is why he's given me a lot more freedom. So, >> and look at you now, bro. Like, Akash is seriously talented, man. Here we go again. Double G, bro. But seriously, one of the best editors I know, man. And all the stuff you see online and editing, it's all this guy. Very grateful for that. But yeah um no just just in general like I was just sort of going to say like when it comes to Indian parents or stuff like that there is there is a lot of you could say downsides but I feel like the upside will always outweigh it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. 100%.
>> And I feel like >> a lot of children might not see that >> but to you young kings and queens stay positive have trust in the process and I'm sure it does eventually it does >> 100%. Like definitely when you're a kid you're like oh my god I hate my mom and dad so much. let me do this and let me do that. But you just I don't know. I don't know how it all works out. It just works.
>> At the time you don't realize as well time like oh yeah I'm never going to speak to my parents again. And best believe the next day you're speaking to them again.
>> It's because you love them. Like it's all love at the end of the day.
>> Uh it's never that deep too. I can't lie, bro. Oh yeah. You're not allowed to do this.
>> You know when you were a kid and you used to like come back home to drink water and then they just wouldn't let you up. That was the worst thing ever.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You've been too scared to get water, bro. Thirsty. [laughter] But yeah, >> part of our culture I think that we haven't really talked about that much is the film side really or the Bollywood side.
>> Bro, I just feel like people don't realize how valuable it comes to like how great our culture is as well. Like >> the Bollywood industry is booming, man.
It's so crazy.
>> You look at when there's the whole debate between T-Ser and PewDiePie and then T-Serv and people don't realize how big of how big of an actual platform there is for the Bollywood scene.
>> Um, but >> let's just get into it. What's What's your three favorite Bollywood films? Top three favorite Bollywood films. Go on.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay.
>> No pressure. [laughter] No pressure.
>> Number one definitely Bajangi Baan.
>> Oh yeah. Great movie, man.
>> For those that haven't seen it, definitely give it a watch. It's so emotional. Like it will get you crying.
I guarantee.
>> Um definitely like a hard-hitting movie.
Journey journey based.
>> The way they talk about like religion and racism as well. It's so common nowadays.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed.
>> Yeah, that one hit hard. Um second is a more funny one. Houseful 2, which is a classic.
>> Oh yeah. If you haven't seen, >> let us know in the comments and we'll just block you so you can never watch.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Get out. Get out. Serious movie as well. Proper funny. Good to watch on the family night as well.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And third, I will say that is a mean bro.
>> No. No. You took mine. You [laughter] took mine.
>> Yeah. It just hit hard for me because obviously the kid there, he's more creative and he has like a he has a family that don't really >> support him. Yeah. So, it it did hit hard. I think genuinely that is a meme.
No matter what age you're watching it, no matter how many times you watch it, it's one of those movies that's always going to hit so hard.
>> Oh, literally, >> you're always going to just be like, "Oh my gosh." And it doesn't matter if you don't if you don't get a little bit emotional out of that movie.
>> I'm scared to watch it cuz I think I'll cry again. [laughter] >> You might be serious boss if you can get that through that movie without any tears. But honestly, a very very hard-hitting movie. But serious top three that serious top three respect.
>> What are yours? Uh well you've already taken one so that is a mean >> um I think one that's just undisputed is zindara you have to understand that that movie just sets the tone if you ever feel like I feel like I always watch that movie as my comfort movie too sometimes in life like you just need to have that one movie you go to just like up that mood a bit and zind does it every time the whole concept of friendship is shown the whole concept of just like adventure and not being afraid to step out your comfort zone They hit every single >> They tick every single box literally, right? And they're like, for me, it's also like the Ritik Russian where he's like always on he's always on the phone and then he just needs to chill out and get up and next thing you know, he's found the love of his life. Like it's just Yeah, I love that movie, man. I just love how crazy it is. I love the chaos and just >> I think that for me that might be number one of all time. Number one of all time.
>> No, that's a lot of respect for that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's number one of all time. Uh number two, again, very generic but undisputed, has to be Three Idiots, >> of course. Like again for me that movie again just ticks every box. Um don't need to say too much but the soundtrack on it as well.
>> The um I don't I don't bro there's so much there's so many things you can bring down in 3D. It's like emotional comedy um mysterious and yeah I just Yeah. If you haven't watched that movie then you've lost the plot.
>> Yeah. Watch it please.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And I was going to say but I'll switch it a bit. Okay.
>> Um because you stole that one. Um, I'm going to go with Yuani.
>> Oh, that that's that that would be my fourth one. Yeah, >> genuinely soundtrack, plot, adventure.
>> I'm joking. Joking. I'm joking.
>> I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. But, um, yeah, that movie is amazing, man, as well. Just love it. Love it so much.
>> The scenery in that as well, like like from a cinematic point of view, is so good as well. I think it has like one of the most like I think every single song in there is like so popular as well.
Like >> it's so good. It's so good. Well, speaking about soundtracks. Yeah.
>> Should we switch it a bit?
>> Okay. Okay. I'm going to ask you the question first this time.
>> Oh, no. I pressure pressure. Okay.
>> Okay. So, what are in no particular order? You can if you want. What are your top three Bollywood songs?
>> Can it be current as well? Like mix of current and all time.
>> Yeah.
>> So, not one song that I'm really like really messing with right now and I really like is Na from Dando. Bro, that that song is an absolute bang, bro. I've never I think it's the first time maybe not the first time but the first time I've at least seen in Bollywood where they've got such an upbeat tune. It's absolute banger man.
>> I've seen the film as well. I haven't seen it. I really want to see it but everyone watch oh my days unreal movie man. So so good bro. It's Yeah. I don't even want to I don't even know what to say bro but it's unreal movie. Then then the second movie as well. I haven't watched that bro. I really >> sort this guy out bro. Sort it out bro.
Unreal. Unreal.
>> Okay. Next episode I will definitely watch.
>> Yeah, we'll double check. We'll give you the reviews.
>> We'll double check his caught up. But um Nala >> then I'm I'm a bit of a softy sometimes when it comes to music, but uh Cha.
>> Okay.
>> Tune soft.
>> Here's the spot.
>> And uh ST one's a bit difficult now. Let me think. Let me think. Let me think. I don't want to go for too much of a soft song as well. Uh but I don't know if many will have heard this but Mja from Kaioch I don't know if you heard that.
>> I don't think I've heard that.
>> I I might play I might give a little I might give a little demonstration. If you watch Kaioch it's a it's a really good movie. Uh very very hard-hitting movie but uh let me play let copyrighted.
>> Oh yeah yeah that thing yeah. Uh let me let me let me get it up. Um, but yeah, serious serious tune and if I really recommend if you haven't watched Sky Poche as well, like I can't lie, it be it's such an unbelievable movie and I think it's a movie that gets slept on actually. It's a really really hard-hitting movie. Hella emotional.
It's actually based off a book I found out which is quite cool and actually I think it's rare in Bollywood. I don't know but maybe. But um I'll play a quick 10 seconds of it. I'll just go into in case we don't want to get copyrighted.
Oh, >> very very >> Hey, can you send me that perfect like late night driving car?
>> Honestly, I don't think a lot of people know that song because like I said current and all time. I'm thinking that song as well. That's one that I can listen to all the time. But there's so many like Kab like there's so many like faster ones.
You got so many Bollywood party on my mind. Sunny Sunny Tommyu.
>> So let's go on a B night together.
That's what I'm saying, bro. Run B, bro.
Let's Let's bring it up. But yeah, no, bro. Bollywood music is so beautiful, man. I I love it, man. And sometimes, as much as I love listening to UK music, like Bollywood is something that I just like like it's sometimes >> it gets you like it hits the perfect emotions that you need.
>> And as weird as it sounds, you do start feeling a bit more connected and proud.
Like you start realizing that >> sugar, this is my culture. Like I do feel proud.
>> These are like all like not loveydvey, but they're all like more chill vibes.
So I would say number one for me is >> serious tune.
>> Second from Donkey Mahi.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> So yeah, I really like that song a lot.
Um and for number three, it's between two songs. I think third is Duja. I don't think I don't know if you know it, but yeah. It was in my interview video.
Um that's from Bajangi. And that song just hits different.
>> It's like between that or a song called HT.
>> Yeah. Banger. Banger man.
>> I just [clears throat] love it. It just gives those like budgeon sort of vibes.
>> Crazy. A lot of the songs we've mentioned, there's one artist that comes up.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> A sing.
>> It's a bit of an emotional one nowadays, bro.
>> Rumor has it he's retired.
>> Is it rumor? No, people know.
>> No. No. People know he's retired. Yeah.
Yeah. Um I thought it was a rumor at first and then Yeah. Which is crazy, man. That guy, king of the Bollywood music scene.
>> He's the goat, man. And he's he's given the biggest of the biggest. I'm talking to Tomiho Chamea.
I'm talking chala >> everything. You did do Chenn.
>> I'm pretty sure he did.
>> I'm pretty sure he did. If he didn't then taking a bit of mail there. But let's just say he's he's done some proper bangers, man. And it's crazy, man.
>> I really wanted to go to a concert of his as well, man. I hope I still hope he does. I'm guessing not, but >> I really hope he does too because I didn't really get to experience him live as well. And he did come to the UK last year and I just tickets were a bit too spendy, bro.
>> They're a bit too broke at the time. Uni Uni lifestyles. But honestly, he's he's honestly the goat man. I think so.
>> It's such an upsetting concept to hear that like he might actually be done.
Like >> that's so that's that's so peak.
>> Somehow in my Spotify bloody Britam always takes a spot, bro. I don't know.
He always take your spot as well.
>> You're crazy. I feel like a lot of people don't know about this tune, but he's released a tune with Marshmallow called BA.
>> What?
>> Bro, it's an absolute banger. If you haven't heard Ba, go hear it, bro. I can't lie. A be >> Give us a little Give us a little preview. Sing it.
It's absolute tune. Absolute tune.
Absolute tune. And yeah, bro. Honestly, if you if you haven't heard BB, go hear it because it's an absolute it's an absolute banger. Seriously. And I think that sort of segus onto a good point about >> the difference between a British Indian and an Indian Indian.
>> So, I take it you have cousins, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Good. [laughter] I'd be a bit worried if you didn't. Um but uh I just whenever I go back to India bro I just feel like the lifestyle my cousins live is so different to me.
>> Oh yeah definitely >> and like I just feel like I'm part of me is very grateful and part of me is also very jealous too. Jealous for many reasons. When you go to India it's all about the food for example.
>> Like when you go to India okay top three foods. Go >> I know you're going to steal some >> probably at the spot. Obviously I'm going to say bloody chili paneer. Oh, chili pane.
>> Are we including desserts by the way? We might as well. Might as well. Go on.
>> Desserts.
>> Desserts. Sorry. Apologize. Apologies.
Apologies. My black. M black.
>> Yeah, you can.
>> Include desserts. Desserts. Yeah.
Include desserts. Include desserts.
Yeah. Of course. Did I get that right?
Yeah. Desserts, bro. Why is that taking me so long? My brain has just paused.
>> I don't know why. But street food. Ba baji.
>> Oh yeah, 100%. I love it.
>> From my ends to mar.
Yeah. Ami Mumbai. Big up. [laughter] >> Yeah. Baja is undisputed as well.
Beautiful.
>> Oh yeah. So good man. Hits the gives that little tingle. Oh yeah.
>> Um >> get me excited.
>> Bani buri street food again.
>> Unbelievable food. Like if you don't go to India, you don't go to the store and a pani like you just you're not doing it right.
>> For anyone calling it gap.
>> I was just about to say get get out of it.
>> Get out of here. No chance. You say Guppy. That's a that's a yellow card to be honest.
>> That's for me.
>> Yeah, that might be that might be a two game match ban if you ask me. Bro, Guppy is just not allowed. It's definitely Panipuri. Uh, and honestly, Pani probably has to be up there for me as well.
>> I'm getting hungry now. I'm actually hungry. [laughter] >> We need We need to chill out. It's getting a bit hot in it. Getting bit getting a bit excited. [laughter] Um, >> yeah, >> I like uh I like your gulab jams.
[laughter] >> We have this running inside joke about gulab jams.
>> We've had this joke for years, man, about I like your gulab jams. [laughter] Give me your gulab jams. We go back to this double G thing. Uh, yeah. So, pani puri paw baji. Anything else?
I don't know. I just love everything like Oh, the doors.
>> Oh, you said chili paneer as well. Chili paneer.
>> Yeah, chili paneer is banging as well.
>> I think one that also gets slept on a bit is water.
>> Oh, come here, bro. I literally had that for >> Let me out, bro. Let me land, bro. Let me land up, bro. If you get the chutney, the masala, >> bro.
>> Yeah, I might I might >> I mean, you had a vod nationals in it.
[laughter] >> I stole this guy's one at the competition, bro. He had a bar. I was like, yeah, man. Now, >> we're just saying he won that competition. If it wasn't for the >> Yeah. Yeah. It was because that what about that I won that competition. But yeah, unreal, man. What about is just too good, man. It's too good. It's too good.
>> Yeah.
>> What do you like talking about India?
What when you go like what's the most what do you look forward to the most and what do you least look forward to the most?
>> So, I actually went I went to India recently. Um I went to India in 2024. Uh if you remember uh I went for a long time actually because it was after my first year uni. Didn't didn't get any summer internships >> but it's fine.
>> Look at you now. Yeah.
>> And then I got um I went for 3 months which was a long time. Uh and I was very lucky in those 3 months I went traveling with my mates. And the one thing I learned to appreciate about India the most is the beauty is in its diversity.
>> Yeah.
>> The fact that whenever you go to India, any single different part of India you go to has a different culture completely. food the way they celebrate certain festivals bongo guripadva makarasanti so many different words for so many different traditions and it's just so beautiful and I think if you haven't been to India and you want to go you really need to see and understand the difference between the different cultures there are and the beauty of it and it's just amazing man when I went to India like for example when I went to I went to South India in Munar the landscape is so beautiful man and the thing is that this is the thing that people don't see. People don't see in India that like the like how amazing and beautiful is all people think about India is oh is this dirt showed such a bad >> it's such a bad representation man and it's peak it's not doing us Indian justice because bro it's so beautiful and I kid you not Gerala Munar if you have not been is the most beautiful place for scenery man it's amazing man I'm talking grasslands fields and then south India I can't lie I'm not I'm not even south Indian myself but south India is It's clear man.
>> People say I look south Indian looks so dumb like so.
>> No, he's a good boy. [laughter] >> But yeah. No, bro. South Indian is just be it's just South Indian general is just so beautiful man. It's for me personally it tops it like it's I'd much rather live in like the boat houses in Kerala rather than the city life in Mumbai personally. But >> but that's the beauty of it again than when I travel to Mumbai and stuff like that. It was it was amazing man. It was amazing. And again the food. Yeah.
>> Yeah. SL.
>> You best believe that year I gained so much weight, bro. I think you remember, bro. I came back looking a bit like a plum, bro. Bro, it was bad. I ate so much. I was non-stop. And the thing with Indian food, if you know, they love putting oil in, man.
>> Oh god.
>> Bro, I swear to God, sometimes they bring out the dal and you can see there three, four layers of oil on top, bro.
[laughter] >> The extra price of the food comes from the oil, bro.
>> That's what I'm saying, bro. And then you just you just know it's so calorie dense, but at the same time it's so good. It's >> so good.
>> And I can't lie, that whole holiday was just eating, traveling, eating, traveling, eating, traveling for 3 months. And yeah, amazing. Went on a 3:00 a.m. 3:00 a.m. hike, too. And I kid you not, India scenery is beautiful and its beauty lies in its diversity. So that's the best thing about India for me.
>> I feel like it's not even just like the views that you get there is beautiful. I think the people there as well, they're so beautiful.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You don't people think that India is so bad and and it's very easy to zoom on to the odd one or two cases but I kid you not the people in India are amazing man% and >> personally me when I go to Indian and with my family and cousins >> because I'm obviously from this country right >> I feel like I get such special treatment bro >> bro my aunties and my uncles they flipping love me man they're like oh how is UK better UK good >> and for some reason they they always think I'm from London I don't Oh, swap.
>> Yes, they always all they say is like, "How is London?" Because they obviously live in cities and stuff.
>> Manchester on the side of the UK, but [laughter] that's what I'm saying, man. And I used to think like, "Are my cousin like you guys locked in, bro?" So, I say this every now. They always say I'm from London, bro. Always. It's such a common thing, man.
>> Honestly, man. And yeah, no, I'm not from London, by the way. I'm from Manchester. So, >> but yeah, they they they struggle with that concept. But I also like they just I just feel like I get treated like a king sometimes. I just feel like I get such special treatment because I'm from the UK which is crazy because Yeah, this is just crazy.
>> Yeah. I feel like with India as well because obviously well my mom grew up in a place called Rajot which is in Gujarat. Um and my dad grew up in a place called Jam Kambala which is near an area called Jamnag. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And I feel like sometimes like with my parents' generation, I feel like when you go it makes you have more respect for your parents as well sometimes.
>> Yeah. Yeah. 100%. And then it sort of humbles you in that essence. And obviously you get told the whole story about how oh I traveled this many miles to get to school, didn't have shoes, walked barefoot, but then >> you see it for your own eyes the lifestyles that people actually live and grow up in India. And it does humble you a bit. It does make you realize that wow people had to work so hard for our parents to come to the UK one day. the amount of money they must have earned or amount of hard work they would had to put in. I feel like a lot of us take it for granted.
>> Have you seen a film called Dunkey? I'm pretty sure you have.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Dunkey where they go under the water.
>> Yeah, that was a that was a mad film.
>> Yeah, that was a mad film. A good tune came from that one as well.
>> Yeah. Wow.
>> A bit mad how they went off through the ocean with straws. Yeah. But [laughter] nevertheless, nevertheless, it's okay.
It's okay. But yeah, good movie. Good movie. Doesn't make my top part though.
I can't lie.
>> Really best.
>> You asked another question. What was it again?
>> Um Oh, yeah. What do you what's the least?
>> Oh, the least the least the thing I look least forward to. Okay, let's just put it like this. That year that I was in India. Yeah. So, in 2024, obviously I just said how much food I ate. Yeah. I mean constantly oil, oil, oil.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. And when you go into an Indian household, the one thing you don't want to hear is you look healthy, bro. Cuz [laughter] if they say that you're looking healthy, I'm telling you, you do not look healthy. You are fat. You are fat. And I kid you not because I ate so much and in all honesty I did put on serious weight.
Everyone everyone who knows me know that when I came back from India I was flipping fat man. I was so fat and I kid you not me and my cousin went to my dad's uncle's house and we went there to see everyone and then him had this better like oh yeah who do you think they're going to call fire? Me or you?
Because he's got the he's got you could say the typical Indian belly like the the round one and stuff like that. Uh and I'm like nah they're not going to call me fire, bro. No way. And then we ask one of my cousins and then she's like, she's like, >> "No, no, no. You're bored looking healthy." And we were both like, "Oh my god, bro. GG." I'm telling you, if you get called healthy, it's just GG for you, [laughter] bro. It's so GG. And yeah, that's probably the worst thing about it cuz although the food is so great, you do have to you do have to like bear bear in mind that you're going to put on weight and but it's worth it.
Um I came back to uni, had to diet a bit and then we got we got there in the end.
But yeah, if you go to India for three months, my advice is eat but eat in your limits like as much as you can.
>> Yeah. Facts. Facts.
>> But yeah, >> but no, no, I think like again when we talk about culture and stuff, I don't think there's any regrets at all. And I'm so glad like I've learned to embrace it a lot more because again I went to a white school so luckily I went to like a full brown community school which is the biggest thing ever. But I think uni as well has just helped me learn to appreciate my culture a lot more.
Definitely >> 100%. And I'd really push that out to anyone that if you if you feel like you're feeling a bit disconnected and stuff like that, you look at the people around you, man. There's so many there's so much Indian talent in our community that people don't realize and we can talk about them. My mate Prit V, he's blown up on TikTok. Pretty Boo, surprise guest, special guest. Who knows? Who knows? He He'll definitely bring the views. So, [laughter] um, Pretty Boo. Then we have, uh, my one of my close mates, Anish. 808 Anish.
>> Our close mate.
>> Yeah. Our Oh my god. He was in the same youth club. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he started with us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, Anish is smashing the music scene, man. He's He's dropping consistently. He's got an unreal voice, man. To this, he's always had an unreal voice and Anish has always been musically talented. But I kid you not, that guy has got he's got bangers.
He's got such good bangers and love to get him on the podcast, too. Big up Anish. AOA Anish on Spotify. AOA Anish on Instagram. Just shout him out. That's my guy, man.
>> And there's there's up and cominging talent, too. You have if you know Dishes from Trafford, he's actually a producer.
Is he?
>> Yeah. So he's he's produced some music.
He's up and coming too and there's some serious talent out there. So my biggest advice for the Indian community, just don't don't be afraid. Just >> just go out there, risk it.
>> Go flipping go for it.
>> There's a quote that I live by actually and it's such a good quote and it's take the risk or lose the chance.
>> That's what I'm saying.
>> Like that's that's what I live by for my whole life. Just take the risk. Just do it.
>> I think the way I always I see this podcast too is that there's not too many there's not too many UK Indians you could say that are actually talking about this sort of stuff. There's so many there's so many drawbacks. There's so many there's so many people that are sort of getting sort of deviating away from their culture% and no one's saying you have to be fully fully cultured or anything like that because obviously we have to adapt our lifestyles a little bit to certain extent in the working world in the in in academia in in sort of a lot of aspects but where possible is always worth trying to stay in touch and >> it's always worth staying proud and if you have a talent be proud that you're Indian be proud that your culture there but also just go out there and smash it in there% yeah if you guys are like too shy or like worried that anything might happen, just give us a message and let us be an example that just put yourself out there.
>> Put yourself out there, man. It's worth it. Look at us, man. We're This is our second episode. We're talking about inspirational stuff, but we don't really care because this is the stuff that's inspired us to do it now.
>> And the way I'll always see this podcast is that even if one day we don't get the views, we don't get the blood, that's fine. Because the 200 followers that did follow us, at least we came in for them.
And then one day, at least we can look back and say, >> "At least I didn't regret it. At least I tried. At least I tried."
>> Exactly. That's the important thing.
>> One thing that me and Akash would like to just emphasize on this podcast is that we're going to deliver. This is this is something that we want to keep providing to you guys. We want to talk about our culture. We want to talk about the sports that we play. We don't talk about the injuries and ups and downs we've been through. And there's so much more to come from this.
>> We want to be a voice for you guys as well. Like for the people that are not that confident yet to put themselves out there, let us be your voice for you as well.
>> Oh yeah, 100%. 100%. But is there anything else you can think of in terms of an Indian sort of upbringing or stuff like that that we haven't mentioned? Um I can't think of anything at the moment.
If you guys have any questions like that, just let us know as well.
>> Let us know. Let us know. I think what we could talk about is just Indian representation in sports. Yeah.
>> Because uh even in like apart from the core core England team, >> you look at the Premier League, there's not many Indian ballers out there. There >> isn't actually. Isn't there some techie ballers, bro? There's so much talent up and coming, man.
>> Speaking about what happened to you when you were a kid, huh?
>> Oh, yeah. I I that was a long time ago.
>> Talk about that.
>> N he's too shy right now. All my boys already rinsed me about this.
>> I can't.
>> If you guys don't know, amaz. I'm basically like signing like for and you guys >> because they saw me kick a ball now. I'm so dead. I can't kick a ball now, but essentially what I was talking about and I know my boys are going to rinse me out of it, but I'll just say it anyways is that when I was younger, um, I played a lot of football. Um, I'm talking from the age of six to the age of till 11 plus because 11 plus all went downhill.
But um age 6 to 10 I used to play a lot of academy academy football. Um I got invited to Everton Academy as well like nothing serious but you know with juniors they have a little setup. I used to just love football man. I used to kick ball a lot and a lot of my first few trophies are just kicking football man.
>> Yeah.
>> And um there the city academy was right behind me as well where I used to live in Manchester. So >> it was just very easy to get into. It's not it's nothing big but I used >> nothing big guys. No, no, no. It's generally not like but I used to be I used to love it and then you know how it gets 11 plus exams come in and then when you're in the Indian household exams, exams, exams, bro. So from there I had to stop. Do I ever look back and regret it? Maybe maybe it could have gone somewhere but there's no guarantee.
There's so many people out there that don't actually make it. But my advice is that if you're at that stage, you're 11 or 12 years old, just play, man. Just keep playing as well as your exams. If you can do both, go do both.
>> And then see, I have that regret to not know what would have happened if I kept on playing. And that regret should never be there ever again.
>> I think it all stems down to just do what you love. Like >> literally, man, >> as much as like especially in brown parents, they will try to control, you know, be a doctor, you know, be this, >> be engineer, doctor, all that, the usual. And that's fine. If that's for you, that's for you. But you don't have to, man. Look at the person next to me doing film production. And if you haven't checked it already, Akash production just to see his talent, man.
>> GG. Here we go again. But yeah, no, it's in general, just like try. And I feel like the job industry needs more representation. They it does need we need more people in film. We need more people in media. We need more people doing other stuff. Like it's just it doesn't have to be medicine engineering.
We know they're secure careers, >> but >> and obviously it's such a sick career being a doctor.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Don't get me wrong. It's such a hard job. My brother studies medicine. I have mad respect. And it's like it's like Yeah. It's just serious.
But if it's not for you, it's not for you, man.
>> Yeah. Exactly. If if if you're doing it just for the sake of please everyone, I don't think that's the right thing because you regret it in the long term.
I've met so many people that have said that they regret doing it as well actually.
>> And you I feel like you have to have that passion. If that passion is not there, if you don't actively want to be a doctor to save lives and you're just doing it for the security and the money, it's not worth it long term because you're not going to I feel like from what I've heard, the people that have made it to that point, I've literally said like it's not a life worth living.
Like one of my best mates at uni, his dad is a big surgeon and like he he was telling me how his dad just said to him from a young age, you're not going to go into surgery, which is the opposite.
you're not going to because the lifestyle you have to live is stressful.
It's hard and if he could go back he wouldn't do it. So the crazy thing about that is yeah the crazy thing about that is that now he's doing computer science and he loves it etc. I'm like >> yeah it's just >> it's just how it is man like that's that it's just a mad thing like it's just a mad thing to think about that a lot of people get forced into these career paths and then eventually just feel so contained and restricted and don't realize what this what you're signing yourself up to. And obviously sometimes like as a brown parent I can understand why they must think that like for example for me like I'm not doing I don't know like dentistry or something like that. And obviously and if I'm going straight into film production they're going to be like what the hell is he doing? Like he's not going to get anywhere with his life. And obviously I can totally understand that as well. But again >> it's about taking a leap of faith in it.
>> Yeah. It's a risk again.
>> If it works out it works out. But >> if it doesn't at least you could say you tried what you love >> and you might have spent 10 to 15 years of your life trying your best. But And if it if it still doesn't work out, fair enough. But you know what they say, work so hard that the outcome or the result, and I read this quote somewhere, but work so hard that the outcome and the volume of the work that you do, you have no choice, but the outcome has no choice but to be positive. You put in so much work.
>> Yeah. You put in so much volume that the output has no choice. It has no choice but to work out. So, you just need to keep going. And that's what I'm trying to do, bro. If everything I've all I've done these years and it's still like in two years time if everything falls apart I don't think I'd have one regret at all.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And also another thing you can do is which is what sort of I'm doing is that I'm also studying like engineering management at LR bro but also on the side I've got this I've got core Premier League. [clears throat] I've got so much other thing going on in my life and those are two things I still put equal focus on. My life is not just fully university. My my life is university. Now it's going to be double A and I've got core Premier League as well. like this and cause a passion like it's always been a passion and we're still me and a should have been playing our whole lives. We're going to keep bringing you up.
>> We're going to be playing till we have like full gray hair man [laughter] >> but that's the goal man for me and Nan as well especially core Premier League one day we want millions to be playing the game and then it's just the start somewhere man who who knows they say dream big and we'll just work hard till we get there I guess.
>> Exactly. And and again that's putting us under good representation hopefully as well.
>> Literally that's that's the final goal I guess at the end of the day. Um, but yeah, I guess >> I think that's a really good way to >> I think that's a good one. A little short, sweet one, bro.
>> Yeah, I think that's a really good podcast, [laughter] bro. Come on. Honestly, we just go we just go for the flow. Like, we have our rough notes, but honestly, like >> we just sort of bounce off each other with this podcast. There's no sort of strict script you could say.
>> Before we do end though, we want to say thank you so so much for the amazing support that you guys have given us.
>> So, we don't know when you guys are going to be listening to this actually, but >> but currently we're at the stage where our first clip just got released. It's the teaser trailer and let's just say we're very grateful for the response. I think we did >> 5,000 views in 24 hours.
>> Yeah. And like we reached like 200 followers without even posting anything.
>> Yeah, man. It's been it's been unreal support. And these these people that have been our day ones, we will never forget you. We we like if we if we do get there. That's all I'm saying. But we do appreciate every single little bit of support, man. Do let us know you have any questions, comments, concerns, um and stuff you want us to talk about.
We're all up for it.
>> Yeah. And if you think we said anything absolutely wrong, come at us.
>> Come at us. We're ready for it. We're ready for it. We want the hate a bit.
Let us know what your top three Bollywood films and songs are as well.
We do want to know that because um I feel like there's a lot of mixed opinions out there.
>> If you haven't seen Three Idiots, go watch it straight after this. I'm not even kidding. Get off this video and watch out. Just don't be listening to this podcast. Get out. Watch the idiots.
Watch that. Watch that.
It's the best one.
>> And yeah, man. I think that's a banger, bro. Done again. Proud to be Indian.
>> Proud. So proud. Hopefully this has made you at least 1% prder, guys.
>> That's it. That's the goal.
>> That's our >> That's our episode concluded for day two.
>> Cool.
>> Let's go.
>> Thank you guys for listening >> and we'll see you next time. Bye-bye.
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