The 2024 death of Henry Novak in Southampton, where police officers handcuffed and arrested a dying man while he repeatedly stated he had been stabbed, raises critical questions about institutional racism within British policing. The case highlights how police training and institutional policies, particularly race action plans, may prioritize accusations of racism over other emergencies, potentially leading to tragic outcomes. This incident has sparked national debate about multiculturalism, anti-racism initiatives, and the need for cultural change within law enforcement to ensure equal treatment under the law regardless of race.
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Hello there. It's 6:00. I'm Michelle Jubrey and this is Jubes and Co. Now, I like millions of you, I suspect, last night, uh, went to sleep brokenhearted, having seen the horrendous body cam footage of the arrest of Henry Nurvak. I can tell you, people up and down the land are devastated and furious. And as we speak, a protest is about to begin in Southampton. Let me cross live now.
Isabelle is there. Isabelle, what are we expecting tonight?
Yes, the protest is already underway here at Southampton Central Police Station. I suspect a few hundred here already. Uh strong police presence, too.
They say people here are here to stand up for Henry Novak, for his family and for justice.
>> Multiculturalism has failed. It has >> And the latter there was Majinawaz. He says, uh, multiculturalism has failed.
We need to get into all of this and so much more.
Keeping me company for all of that and more. My panel before UK home affairs spokesman Zia Yousef and Labour MP John Slinger and lots more guests along the way. But before we get stuck in, let's cross and give you your 6:00 news headlines.
Good evening. Your headlines at 1 minute past 6. Saki Star Dharma has said there are serious questions to answer about Henry Novak's murder, including how accusations of racism informed the decision-making in the case. The prime minister said the police body cam footage of the death of Henry was harrowing. Henry had been fatally stabbed in Southampton, but officers arrested him after his killer, Vicram Digu, falsely claimed he had been racially abused. Ziki Starama gave his reaction to the footage.
>> I have seen the body cam footage. Uh, it's harrowing and I have to say, as a father of a 17-year-old boy, uh, I felt sick.
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Of course, you can get me on social media. Now, I know I am not alone um in the way that I felt when I went to sleep last night. I was absolutely devastated.
Um I was so sad, so brokenhearted. I felt absolute despair um at the country that we live in uh particularly the country that many of us have got children in and are hoping to have happy healthy long lives for those children.
And I'm speaking of course about the fact that just before I went to bed um I saw that footage of the body cam um situation when it came to the arrest and I mean even just saying that word the arrest of Henry um Nurvak on that gravel floor on that driveway um absolutely sickening. I know that many of you will have been out. You might not have seen it. I've chosen not to show you the full body cam footage, but I will uh with a warning letting you know how distressing it is just show you a very very um short element of that.
>> You've been stabbed. Whereabouts?
>> Don't think you have mate.
>> It goes on. It goes on and it it goes on for quite some time. each second of that footage um it becomes more apparent actually um that Henry was in a dire dire situation. Anyone with a pair of eyeballs quite frankly the second that they arrived on that scene could see that that young man needed help. He absolutely did not get that help.
Instead uh he had his hands uh secured behind his back and put on handcuffs. A 999 call uh which led to all of this.
Let's just remind ourselves of that.
It's emergency.
>> Yeah, we just been attacked by someone racially.
>> Yeah, this just attack.
>> Huh? Uh, sorry. We just got attacked racially by some white person.
>> Right. Okay. Whereabouts are you?
>> Uh, we're on Belmont Road.
>> Just out in the street, are you?
>> Sorry.
>> You're just in the street.
>> Uh, yeah. Literally, I just parked on my car to come home and he's attacked my brother.
>> Attacked racially by a white person. You liar. You sickening liar. That was the brother there of that murderer. There is only um this topic that people are talking about today. I want to spend um until 7:00 exploring many of the different facets of this with you all.
Um we've got lots of guests joining us along the way as well. But for now, Zia Yousef, what's your immediate reaction to what you've seen unfold?
>> Well, the murder of Henry Novak and watching that body cam footage, it's clear this is one of the most horrific catastrophes in modern history in terms of British policing. And you know, there are many, many examples where police officers are totally unfairly maligned, unfairly attacked. Uh, and we at Reform have been the first ones to make that point. This is not one of those examples. The murder of Henry Novak and that body cam footage, the circumstances of his death are clear evidence of the anti-white racism that exists that that is endemic inside many of our institutions, including and especially the police right now. And if you're in any doubt about that, I'd make point number one that, you know, when the police turned up on the scene, you just heard the 999 call, they turned up on the scene because poor Henry had been accused of being racist. And when Henry, as he lay dying and bleeding out, said, "I've been stabbed." He said that a number of times and then he couldn't breathe. The police responded by, "And I'm afraid I can barely sleep thinking of these words." Um, he said that the police responded saying, "I don't think you have, mate. I don't think you have, mate." And so when an ethnic minority accused a white man of racism, there was no burden of proof required. It was just taken as read by the police, it was taken more seriously uh than the claim from the accurate claim from a dying Henry that he had been stabbed for which there clearly was a burden of proof. Uh and I find that absolutely extraordinary. And the last point I want to make on this in terms of this opening segment is that if anyone is in any doubt about the fact that this is directly downstream from structural anti-white racism in Britain, go and look at Hampshire Police's website where they proudly talk about their race action plan. And if you go and read that, I genuinely encourage anyone watching this program to go and read that page on their website.
>> What you will see is that the police response to Henry's murder was no aberration. As tragic and horrific as it was, it is a direct result of the fact that the race action plan orders them, trains them to be quote anti-racist in everything that they do and effectively trains them to treat accusations of racism as one of the, if not the biggest concern for the police. And the deepest and tragic irony here, Michelle, is that that race action plan specifically cites the murder of George Floyd in America as the reason it was implemented. Um I can tell you as well um happening live right now as we speak in Southampton um so many people obviously also touched by this horrendous situation uh are uh there right now for a protest. They've just concluded a minute silence. Let me take you back um to Southampton as we speak.
Isabelle, good evening.
Yeah. Hi. I'm here at Southampton Central Police Station. As you can see, thousand I think about a thousand people here now uh outside Southampton Police Station. Already quite high and tension between police officers and protesters here. Of course, the public are outraged after the release of that body cam footage uh showing Henry Novak in his final moments. Uh now protesters are gathering. There is a strong police presence. They are covering a perimeter around this protest here. We've just had that minute silence as you said. I'm going to try and speak to some people now to see why they've come down here today. Uh Chris, hello. Thank you for coming on. What's made you come down and show support today?
>> Um I think for me as a reverence, um I think it's important that we stand with the people and stand up for truth and righteousness and justice. And what we're getting very tired of seeing in our nation is basically our children being sacrificed on the altars of multiculturalism and political correctness. And this is why I'm here today. People are tired. They're grieved. They're fed up. And when we saw the body cam footage, it only really highlighted what we already suspected is that we have a a political system that's so indoctrinated even our police that when they with their natural eyes see a man that's clearly in a state of distress that all they saw was that he was a racist. And we we've got to get past this. We need to get past this whole kind of uh hysteria over the flag waving misogynistic racist bigot white guy which seems to be drumed into our political system and our education system and sadly in our constabularary and that's why people are here today and that's why I'm here. I want to see justice in our nation again and and practical policing.
>> Thank you very much. Uh Lisa, hello.
You've come down today as well. Uh for what reason are you here protesting?
Well, I watched the footage last night, the body cam footage, like a lot of us did, and well, as a mother, a human being, I was absolutely appalled that the police failed to notice signs that he was deteriorating rapidly. Uh failed to give any first aid. Um I mean, it's obvious he was he was dying.
We just all of us were just so devastated. And today we'd like to call for um these police to be arrested, charged. Um I I don't know exactly what they've been charged with for misconduct in public um office or devil duty. Um I can understand they probably would be found guilt I'm sorry, charged with manslaughter because apparently the autopsy report said they couldn't have actually done anything. So I wouldn't thought it'd be that. But obviously at the time they wouldn't have known um that they you know they obviously should have tried the best to save him and offer words of comfort to him as well.
>> Thank you very much. Many people gathering here have said to me that they found it so difficult to watch that body cam footage as I'm sure uh so many of our viewers did at home. Uh someone told me that it just broke them. Uh apologies if you're hearing any bad language in the background here. Uh many protesters here extremely angry. As I said before, tensions seem to be rising here between police and protesters. Uh police have formed a line at the stairs over there and protesters just pushed through there going up the stairs towards the police station. Uh as I said, I think there's probably about a thousand people here now at the protest. People chanting save our kids. Uh you can see lots of Union Jacks around uh and just in general people here saying that they're fighting for justice. You can hear just hear the sound of the applause here as people all stand together for Henry Novak and for his family of course.
Now I we're hearing reports that Hampshire police have said that one of the officers involved has now resigned.
uh that's come in this afternoon. We've also heard uh this afternoon that Vicram De was sentencing might be uh reviewed by the attorney general uh as he's had several requests to review that. Um so a lot of updates, a lot of changes uh lots of people here uh to stand up for justice, stand up for Henry Novak's family and for Henry Novak himself who died in such an awful brutal way.
Well, thank you um very much. I shall keep our eyes across this situation and we will return to you throughout the program, but for now, thank you very much. Just to reiterate uh that breaking news there, uh as you've just been hearing now, uh Hampshire police have said uh that one of the police officers involved in the arrest of Henry um Noah Novak has resigned. They say uh three of the officers are still serving. one officer has resigned. They go on to say as as the IOPC have confirmed, they are all being treated as witnesses. Uh so not subject to any current restrictions.
So just to recap, uh one of the police officers now um involved in that horrendous quite frankly disgusting uh despicable uh and shameful I would add arrest of Henry Novak as he lay dying has now resigned. Uh, John, what's your uh overall response to all of this?
>> Well, Michelle, first I want to extend my sympathy and condolences to the family of Henry Novak. What happened to him was absolutely disgusting. It is horrendous. It is shocking. And I too watched the body cam footage in absolute horror uh and was upset by it. Um, it is a really senseless death. Um, and I'm glad that his murderer has been sentenced to a long time in prison. Um, and I think >> Do you think 20 um years is a long time?
>> I think it's look those those things are up to the courts. Um, and I understand that the attorney general is actually looking already at that. So we do have a mechanism in place to look at um sentences that are unduly lenient. But I I cannot um say how any more than how utterly shocked I was um about what happened to him uh in as you say an absolutely despicable uh there was despicable evil behavior >> by the uh the the murderer and and um by the family as well. What do you think too? Um, I mean, we finally heard from the prime minister. Actually, I'll show you a clip of K Star Dama. Um, he's been speaking out about this situation. I think I can play at you a clip of that.
In fact, I'll come back to that in just a second. But K Star Dama, he's had a lot of criticism um for his response to this because a lot of people are making parallels with the George Floyd situation, which I don't really like myself actually because George Floyd um was a man with a criminal record as long as his arm. Um this guy Henry was a man that was just out enjoying a night out.
But the reason people draw parallels is because of the notion of I can't breathe off the back of the George Floyd situation. Uh people like K star quicker than a quick thing from quickland uh were on the knees um you know talking about how our country and the policing and all the rest of it has to change off the back of this. He basically said diddly squat off the back of this.
>> Look he he has made a statement. Um the home secretary was in the chamber of the House of Commons today to give a statement that was very measured but also hard-hitting. I was in the chamber listening to that statement uh as well.
>> Let me play a clip of it. Actually, you say it was hard-hitting. Let's listen.
>> I have seen the body cam footage. Uh it's harrowing and I have to say as a father of a 17-year-old boy uh I felt sick watching it. It is absolutely right that the IOPC are looking at this. There are clearly serious questions that need to be addressed not least uh how accusations of racism inform the decision-m in this case.
as you were sorry >> well I I was saying that I was in the chamber you were talking about the prime minister's response he has responded and the the government um through the home secretary came to the house of commons to answer questions from MPs including from Z's party um and that's absolutely right because it is a truly shocking shocking case >> uh it is actually um and for many people it's more than just shocking uh for many people it's a symptom of something that has gone deeply deeply wrong within our society. There's been lots of focus now on things like DEI training, uh anti-racism initiatives, uh calls for inquiries to go into what we've actually ended up with as a society because yes, everyone uh wants to stop racism.
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>> Hello everybody. Welcome back to Jubes and Co with me Michelle Jubbery. Uh many of you have been talking about the same subject that we are going to be spending until 7:00 discussing this evening here on Jubes and Kia. Yousef of course alongside me as is John Slinger. I mean lots of you expressing that exact same sentiment. Um the absolute devastation that you all felt watching that horrendous body cam footage um last night. absolutely traumatic because of course as parents, as anyone that's got uh people that you love, you project your child into that situation. Uh many people now suggesting also today that multiculturalism has effectively uh not worked. Let's take a listen to Majid Noaz, something that he said actually nearly 10 years ago.
>> Multiculturalism has failed. It has >> very uh direct and to the point there.
He joins me now. Imagine no you've been very uh vocal on this topic today. Do tell our audience your concerns.
>> Hi Michelle. Yes, I mean this is something that's not just happened uh today or yesterday. This has been brewing for decades in this country.
Unfortunately we as communities in Britain have been living together apart.
we've been growing together apart and the uh ' 90s era Labor Party motivated uh so-called multiculturalism in this country has rather than lead to the empowerment of minorities uh it has instead led to monocultural ghettos where the first victims in fact are the ethnic minorities it claims to defend uh because what we've seen is the complete disappearance of social mobility in this country and the bulcanization of our communities and that's really the context in which this tragic murder of Henry Novak has come in. Uh because of course what kind of mindset has been brewing for so many years that leads in the end result to police feeling paralyzed in their ability to recognize who the victim was here and who the perpetrators were from fear of being called racist. And that in fact if you look to the underage rate b g b g b g b g b g b g b g b g b g b grooming gang scandal that's also been brewing for decades in this country under the Labour party uh is precisely why K star and his Labour party were unable to act when it came to these sorts of crimes because they were paralyzed from the fear of being called racist. Kier Starma if you remember Michelle whipped every single Labour MP in parliament against the inquiry into underage rape great uh grooming gangs. And now here is another example where the police, for reasons that only they can explain, decided to arrest a man who then died in their arms after he'd been stabbed four times. The reaction of rage in this country is perfectly understandable. And anyone, including Kevin Badonock, by the way, the leader of the Conservatives, anyone who tries to weaponize this moment to score political points, instead of expressing sheer outrage at the facts, Michelle, is guilty of perpetrating more of the same. It's interesting to me that the leader of the Conservative Party, Kevin Bannon's response in attacking Nigel Farage, mirrors that of the Labour Party response in attacking Nigel Farage. uh people such as Kia Starama's acolyte, the public prosecutor Nazir Absel, who prosecuted the token cases in the grooming gang inquiry in order to contain them. Don't forget, he also decided to attack Nigel Farage. And all Nigel did was give an address this morning saying it's an emergency for the country and that we should be outraged.
Of course, we should be outraged.
Multiculturalism in this country has failed. It is dead. And instead, uh we should be focusing on what we have in common, what we share. And there's a word for that. It's called omniculturalism. And it's about time we all understood what it meant to belong to this country.
>> Well, I can tell you now, I think um this conversation Majid is only just starting. It's certainly not concluding.
And I'm definitely sure we will return to it. But for now, thank you very much.
Let's just show you if you're not familiar with what Mad is relating to, uh the Nigel Farage response. Take a watch.
But the most important thing that needs to change, that has to change if our society is not to be ripped apart, where communities start to distrust each other and deeply distrust the police and all the other institutions of this country is we need a change in culture. Enough of anti-white prejudice.
said, "Amen." at the end of that sentence, many others did not. What do you think? Well, the fact that, you know, as we learn more and more about the devastating circumstances of Henry Novak's death, the fact that Kia Starman, Chem Baden today took the opportunity to attack Nigel Farage for making those comments for saying that we need a change of culture in this country and that racism, systematic endemic racism against white people is as bad as any form of racism. for those comments.
He was roundly condemned by the prime minister and by the official leader of the opposition, Chem Battle. And I think that is absolutely an example of why we are in this situation as we speak. And again, I want to point out that what you saw in that harrowing footage, that terrible footage, that body cam footage is a direct result of the of the initiatives that Hampshire police put in place. um which focused on which put such a focus on racism that when the police turned up on the scene, they took more seriously an accusation that somebody had been racist to someone than they did the accusation that someone had been stabbed. And that is demonstrable from the footage. And so again, I make the point this is not an aberration as horrific as it is. It is directly downstream from the DEI culture that has taken root and frankly that happened in a large part. It started under Blair but it really took root and became endemic under the 14 years of Tory rule. Uh and that is it's really clear you know people talk about the uni party as a conspiracy. Well again you look at the statements from Chem Badok. Look at the statements from K Star. They are all but indistinguishable. Chem bad today said you know she doesn't want to hear about black lives matter. She doesn't want to hear about how white lives matter too.
And yet post George Floyd she said black lives do matter. And so again there is this endless systematic and endemic racism that is uh inflicted upon white people in this country. And unless we do something about it, Michelle, unless we do something about it and change these rules, change these laws, repeal all this mad DEI stuff inside the police and other institutions, I'm afraid uh we will get another tragedy like this.
>> Uh and also I can tell you um in Southampton live people are taking to the streets to protest there. I shall be taking you back to Southampton. Do not worry. Um, a very quick reaction to you there, John, about what you've just been hearing.
>> Uh, well, I listened very carefully to what the Home Secretary said in the chamber. She spoke about the sacred duty of for everyone in this country to be treated equally under the law, that the police must act without fear and favor.
And I simply reject Zia's point about um anti-white racism. Um and I don't see any evidence of anti-white racism.
>> Did you watch the body page?
>> I did.
>> And you didn't see any evidence of anti-hite racism?
>> I did not see evidence of anti-white racism.
>> Why was an accusation of racism taken more seriously than an accusation of having been stabbed? So, you have um drawn conclusions from this one horrific, terrible incident.
>> Well, we're talking about the body footage. So, please answer my question.
You just said you did not see any evidence of anti-white racism in that footage. So, I'm asking you, why is it that an accusation of racism was taken more seriously by the attending officers than an accusation of being stabbed? an accusation of racism was clearly from what I saw on the on the um body footage was obviously in the mind of that officer and it's pretty obvious that a terrible terrible mistake was made in that case. Now the IOPC why but you're not answer of racism which clearly has no immediate threat to life.
>> Why was that taken more seriously than the accusation that he had been stabbed?
clearly horrific and that uh what Henry said should obviously have been taken with the utmost seriousness immediately and I I absolutely accept that and the IOPC are going to look at it when I am taking issue with Z is drawing a broader conclusion about the entirety of uh British policing and our criminal justice system in a way that you seem to be doing to imply that there is some broad um uh anti-white racism at play. I just want to want to say I speak to police officers regularly and I uh know that very occasionally they get it wrong. They do a very difficult job.
They get it wrong and it looks pretty clear that big mistakes were made in this case. However, police officers take very seriously their responsibility to treat everyone fairly and I reject the claim and it's a an inflammatory claim that there is anti-white racism. It's an accurate claim and anyone who has seen the footage would know that.
>> Well, I'm I'm I'm really sorry. I need to go to a break, but I I'm also going to return to that cuz I'm absolutely shocked to the core that you can watch that footage, see what we've all seen, and genuinely with your hand on your heart, you can come away from that and not see some kind of anti-white prejudice. We'll explore it a little bit more after the break. And I also want to take you live to the protests that are happening as we speak. I'll see you in a sec.
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Hello everybody. Welcome back to Jubes anchor with me Michelle Jubier Yousef and Labour MP John Slinger. Now, as we speak in Southampton, people are taken to the streets there outside the police station um in absolute horror um and upset and distress at that horrendous horrendous body cam footage um that we have seen last night of Henry Nurvac's arrest. I mean, just even saying that sentence arrest sickens me. Um that young man should never ever have been um arrested at all. Alistister has been in touch. She says, "Michelle, I cannot understand how anybody could watch that body cam footage and not see anti-white racism is a problem in this country."
He's referring uh to the conversation we've just had uh before the break. I'll return to that. Don't worry. Uh Lawrence has got in touch and said, "Michelle, um we shouldn't have knives on the streets.
No exemptions whatsoever." That one as well. We'll explore that one. Um for now though, did you see Kimmy Bnock? She was speaking out today in response to the comments that I played you earlier from Nigel Farage. Watch.
>> We also don't need rage, which is what Nigel Farage is p pushing. We need courage. We need bravery. We need to be able to stand up and say George Floyd happened in another country. We are different. We need to be able to say no, we're not bringing in um segregation or race-based laws or two-tier policing or anything like that based on people's uh uh physical appearance or their religion.
Well, I'm joined now by Shadow Home Secretary Chris Phelp. He joins me now.
Uh Chris, good evening to you. I've just been playing the viewers there, the reaction from Kem Benedok where she was responding uh to Nigel Farage. Is it really the view of the Conservative Party that people are enraged about this because Nigel Farage tells them to be?
>> Well, I'm not really that interested in commenting on uh Nigel Farad Frag's uh performances. is what I'm interested in doing is making sure justice is served and that we make sure this situation never happens again. For example, by getting rid of the ridiculous uh police so-called police anti-racism commitment published in March 2025, which I think is what enables this sort of nonsense, which actually says in black and white the police should treat people differently uh depending on the color of their skin, which is outrageous. I've been raising this in parliament for the last year and I hear now via the times uh that the police chief's council might be reviewing this. They should do more than review it. They should scrap it immediately and if the police don't, the home secretary should get a grip and scrap it herself. I did ask her that in Parliament this afternoon, but she didn't give me an answer.
>> But Chris, this has gone on for a very long time. This is only the latest example now of people um being impacted by this so-called anti-racism agenda. We can take you all the way back. I always go on about this situation in Manchester um at one of the big shopping centers there where they uh were mocking up a terror attack um to get all of the emergency services prepared. They shouted Alobar as part of that mockup.
Uh all hell broke loose. People had to come out and apologize. You name it. We saw it on the Manchester Arena attack then less than a year later where the security guard specifically said that he saw Salman Aed. He knew he looked dodgy but was scared to flag it because he didn't want to be viewed as a racist. So all of this has been going on for such a long time also under your watch as a party. Why wasn't this fixed and tackled then?
>> Well, as I say, the uh anti-racism commitment, which is the thing I want to get rid of immediately, uh was published in March 2025. But there is a there is a wider problem. You're absolutely right.
And I mean on the point about the mockup of the terrorist incident, I mean here's the here are the facts. In the last 25 years or 26 years, 94% 94% of terrorist murders have been committed by Islamist extremists. That's just a fact. 75% of the counterterrorism case load uh are committed by or the subject of Islamist extremists. So those those are the facts and nobody should uh shy away from that. Everyone should be treated equally before the law based on the facts. And what we saw from that body cam footage obviously was not that because we saw an officer more interested apparently in an al a made up a fabricated allegation of racism fabricated by a murderer. More interested in that than in saving a dying man who said nine times I can't breathe. Henry said four times, "I've been stabbed." And the police officer uh responded by handcuffing him and dragging him across the ground and actually even asked the murderer who was standing next there if he was okay. Uh that was just appalling. That can never happen again. And that's why and that's why things like the um anti-racism commitment have to be scrapped immediately because it expressly says on the page that people should be treated differently based on the color of their skin. And that is it's immoral. It's divisive and it's also dangerous.
>> You're absolutely right. I completely agree with you on that final point.
Chris Phelp, shadow home secretary, thank you for your time.
>> That that is just I can't I I didn't want to be rude and interrupt, Michelle.
But how Chris Phelp from the Conservative Party can just lie relentlessly like that. The Hampshire Police action plan was implemented in 2022.
>> Under a conserv conservative gone under a conservative government. That is just barefaced lying. all of the things he talked about this obsession with anti-racism making an accusation of racism more of a concern than an accusation of being stabbed that happened that was that you can go look this up it happened in 2022 under with pretty Patel in the home office and Boris Johnson and number 10 Downing Street all of the stuff you have seen here as awful as this slab government are happened it was started and incubated in under 14 years of Tory government and I don't understand how somebody like Chris Phelp could come on your show Michelle and just lie through his teeth like that it really upsets me Well, I can tell you many people are upset. I do want to take you back to Southampton. Isabelle um is at that protest that's happening as we speak.
Isabelle.
>> Yes, Michelle. I'm here in Southampton Central. Just listen to the protesters here. It is huge. I think there's about a thousand people here uh right now.
Currently they have just been chanting shame on you uh towards those police officers who uh were involved in the case of Henry Novak on the 3rd of December. I'm going to speak to some people now who have come all the way here. Uh Spencer, first ever protest.
What made you come down for this cause?
>> Well, I've been I was down the gym training at Hills Gym in Living and my son and a few others said, "Why don't we go to the protest?" So, I decided, "Yeah, let's come along. It's pretty horrific.
It's disgusting what went on. So, we just felt that we had to come down to show our support for Henry.
>> Did you see the body cam footage? It >> was horrific. I did see it and I showed it to to some people at work and it was, you know, almost brought brought you to tears. It was just disgusting what went on. It appears it appears in today's society that someone being accused of being racist is more important than someone dying. stabbed nine time five times on the floor and being handcuffed by the police is disgraceful.
Well, I I words just fail me.
>> Thank you, Spencer. I'll let you get back to the protest now. Your first protest. I'm going to come over to Julie. Julie, what made you show up today and protest in support of the Novak family and Henry Novak? and I only found out about it this morning that this was happening. But I just think I'm I'm here for the family to support them, but also, you know, they've came out here and they've they've not arrested the people that stabbed that poor boy and he died and and he was carrying a ceremonial knife and I just think, well, you know, I've got grandkids, you know, if they don't stop this from happening and and and be careful of what they do, what's going to happen to my grandkids, you know.
>> Of course, here for the future generations.
Thank you very much. As you can see, a huge crowd gathering here in Southampton. Everyone here is standing up for Henry Novak, standing up for his family, uh, and standing up for justice.
Thank you very much. I'll try to come back to you again before the end of the program. But that final lady there just summarizing what so many of us, um, felt when we watched that horrendous footage, that could have been our child, that could have been our grandchild, that could have been our loved one. The conversation continues after the break.
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They think London a few months between uh around Christmas 1940 that was the blitz. But that's not the story that I'm telling. I'm telling the story that you know GB News would tell which is the story of the whole nation. So not London, we're talking about Coventry.
People will remember that. We're talking about Glasgow. We're talking about Abedine. We're talking about Exat. And we're I'm telling the story of the war.
So yes, thousands were killed in London during those few months, dreadful months in uh around Christmas 1940, but 60,000 civilians perished during the whole course of the war. And again, uh we talk about when the Blitz start and when the Blitz ended. If you are being bombed in Glasgow or you are being bombed in Newcastle. So that image you've got on screen now is my mom's hometown. That is the picture of an aid shelter in my mom's hometown. And if she'd been in that shelter, I wouldn't be with you today. But I found a >> Where is it? Where is it?
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>> Hello there. Welcome back to Jub's Anchor. With me, Michelle Jubier, Yousef and John Slinger. We're focusing, of course, tonight on that horrendous uh murder of Henry Novak. That awful body cam footage that I'm sure by now most of us have seen. Lee has got in touch and said, "Michelle, why hasn't the IOPC uh already investigated this? What are we waiting for? Um how much time do they need? When will we get our outcome?"
Well, I can tell you that the IOPC have said the following and I quote, "Our investigation, which began following a mandatory referral from the force that we received the same day uh remains ongoing and the officers involved are currently being treated as witnesses. Of course, they have also done a separate statement where they have said sorry um etc. I'm fascinated. I do need to attend to this point before I bid everyone farewell. I'm astonished that you could have watched that footage of an 18-year-old boy. The second the police arrived on the scene, as per their body cam, whoever it was that was holding him up said, and I quote, "He's got a mouthful of blood, which would indicate to most sensible people uh some kind of internal injury." Despite all of that, they were focusing instead on, let's be honest, the brown man who said, "Oh, he said something uh racist racist to me and I've got a bruise on my eye." They then focused only on that and handcuffed a man that could barely move. He wasn't a threat to anyone. He certainly wasn't trying to get up. He was just, you could see him diminishing. Why do you not look at that or how do you not look at that and honestly not sense that the police officers are taking as a priority an alleged an alleged um racial assault as more of a priority than a potential fatal stab wound.
>> It look it it's clear they got it massively massively wrong.
>> Yeah, we all know that. And I am pointing out though that I think to jump to the conclusion that there is anti-white racism at play and then to make broader points I just don't think is appropriate and helpful. And actually I think at a time like this what is very important for people like me and Zia and politicians to do is to speak in ways which of course identify the problems as we see it and people are entitled to their opinion about of course about what happened in that outrageous horrific case but we do have a responsibility to speak calmly uh about these matters and I think There was why do we have to be cal when George Floyd got killed the well had basically set on fire people were desecrating statues doing all thing nobody ever sat there then and said be calm but when it is a white young man that is that has this treatment we are all told oh be calm don't be enraged all the rest of it I'm almost out of time I want you in >> Michelle >> well hold on it's abundant I mean if you are genuinely sitting there as a human being and watching that body cam footage and you cannot see evidence of anti-white racism. I can't help you.
>> Look, I I think it's it's perfectly understandable to be angry and I am angry as well. It was absolutely disgusting what happened to him.
Absolutely disgusting. But I do think it's important that um we at with dignity and the family themselves have said we do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension. They also in their statement quoted the prosecution lawyer who said this is not a case about seekism. It's not a case about racism. This is a case about murder.
>> And we completely respect family. We do respect that jump to conclusion.
>> We do respect that. But also as human beings, every one of us as a child is terrified about the life and the world and the country that our children are going to grow up in. That's all I've got time for. Night nights.
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More to come over the next few days. So showers if not longer spells of rain, but in between some clear spells for example overnight, fewer showers, a greater chance of some drier interludes and a comfortable night for sleeping.
Certainly when you compare with the same time last week, 12 or 13 Celsius typically by dawn. It is a dry start for many parts of central and eastern UK.
Even some brightness out there as the clouds break up a little. But parts of Scotland, especially the north and northwest, will see more persistent rain at times. But Northern Ireland here, it's very wet during the morning, a soggy rush hour. Likewise for Wales and the Southwest with the next batch of wet weather moving in. It does move through.
So during the morning, something a little drier and brighter develops across Northern Ireland, Wales, and the Southwest as this rain moves into central, eastern, northern parts of England and then central and southern Scotland by the afternoon along with the brighter skies towards the south and the
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