Hasan Piker’s Viewers Were Interviewed And Oh My God

[00:00:00]Hassan is more upbeat. He's more hopeful and his viewers reflect that.

[00:00:04]>> It's not a thing of hey, socialism is when no money and no phone or no anything really, you know, consumerism.

[00:00:11]If this is the system that we live in, then we have to play the part and slowly hope that we can change it for the better.

[00:00:17]>> But I also What does that even mean?

[00:00:22]We have to play the part.

[00:00:25]What? What does that have to do with Hassan? Well, we live in a capitalist society, you know, so we got to we got to buy $5,000 outfits.

[00:00:32]Got to play the part.

[00:00:34]What does that even mean? What does that mean?

[00:00:36]I don't know what that means.

[00:00:39]Hey guys, welcome to the video. Thank you for clicking on it. My name is Hutch. I make videos and put them on the internet. I do lib left content and I try not to be completely insane. Today we're going to be reacting to a video done by a journalist ostensibly uh talking to Hassan Piker's viewers to get a profile on them.

[00:01:01]I really don't know how to preface this video. It gets difficult. If you guys like the content, click like. If you guys like the channel, click subscribe. Maybe hit the bell notification. Thanks again for tuning in. Let's get to this Hassan [ __ ] video. Oh boy, it's a doozy. I'm not going to lie. I did watch the first little bit of this video.

[00:01:22]And uh it's it's this is going to be challenging. Like this will be difficult.

[00:01:28]I'm not I'm not going to lie to you and say that this won't be this is going to be hard to get through. It's very very very cringeworthy.

[00:01:36]It's kind of a lot.

[00:01:37]Kind of a lot to unpack.

[00:01:38]>> Hassan [ __ ] has been called a terrorist.

[00:01:41]>> And the new face of the left. I keep doing my best to make this guy the face of the left cuz you know, he's terrorist.

[00:01:45]>> A champagne socialist.

[00:01:47]>> Hilarity surrounding champagne socialist Hassan >> A dog shocker.

[00:01:51]>> Mr. dog shocker is wondering >> and an enemy of democracy. It doesn't matter where you turn. Everybody has their own thoughts on it. On some sides of the internet, he's a hero, a progressive ideologue, and a champion of diversity who helps progressive candidates like Zoran Momdani, who works right over there, get elected.

[00:02:10]>> To me, and like trying to get better candidates, rather than just your typical establishment Democrats.

[00:02:17]>> But to others, he represents the downfall of America.

[00:02:20]>> Anti-Zionist chauvinist.

[00:02:22]>> Who would rather show off rather than help people.

[00:02:25]>> If you spend some time with Hasan, then like, yeah, he has those like edges to him, but he really means what he says.

[00:02:30]>> But who really is Hasan [ __ ] I've been a digital culture journalist for the past decade, and other than an interview that I did with him a few years ago and some articles over the years, I never really watched his content. I really only understood him through the context of these clips. So, I decided to reach out to the people who know him the most, his fans. The viewers who spend dozens of hours a week watching him on Twitch talk about politics, culture, and the news. What I learned is Hasan [ __ ] is a complicated individual who can't really be captured in those viral moments and clips. Hasan can be a bit brash. His bravado can kind of get in the way of his message, and boy, can that message be difficult for a moderate or someone that disagrees with Hasan. But at the end of the day, people tend to love him.

[00:03:14]So, welcome to my channel. This is Steven Asarch Talks.

[00:03:17]>> I trust Steven uh to to not fall for [ __ ] like that.

[00:03:21]>> When I released my Asmongold video, which you should totally watch, Hasan watched it and shared his thoughts on the subject.

[00:03:27]>> Which creator's fan should I look into next? Like, I feel like if he did something like this in my community, I suspect that the outcome would be very different. And I know that because journalists have profiled my fans.

[00:03:38]>> So, I decided, sure, that would be a great idea to figure out what his fans think about Hasan. I posted a tweet, and Hasan posted that tweet on his stream.

[00:03:47]>> If you speak to his Oh, yeah, Steven Asarch who did the Asmongold video, he he saw my response to it. He was on honeymoon, flex by the way. He said, "While I was on honeymoon, HasanAbi reacted to my Asmongold video and theorized that if I spoke to his fans, the outcome would be very different.

[00:04:00]While I'm working on my reaction, I wanted to reach out to HasanPiker fans and ask, why do you like Hasan? How many hours a week do you spend watching him?

[00:04:06]What do you think people misunderstand about him?"

[00:04:08]>> So, I got a flood of information. So, over 300 people responded to me on Twitter, email, Discord, and someone even found my Reddit. From those 300, I interviewed 15. And some of their stories were fascinating. Adri is a mom who wants to fight back against the defamation Hasan receives, posting live clips taken directly from his live streams.

[00:04:28]>> Mhm.

[00:04:29]>> Like on Twitter, like a lot of people are like, how do you do what you do? And it's a lot easier to do what you do when your needs are met here in Canada.

[00:04:37]>> Ben is a former Mormon and H3 fan. So, he's escaped two cults. He's the only liberal in his Western mountain community.

[00:04:46]>> Wait, did he just imply that H3 fans are that that the H3 fandom is a cult?

[00:04:52]>> And >> when your needs are met here in Canada.

[00:04:55]>> Ben is a former Mormon and H3 fan. So, he's escaped two cults. He's >> Okay. All right. I think we I think we can all surmise what kind of video this is going to be.

[00:05:07]I think we can put two and two together on this one. Hold on, what is this guy's bonafides again? Uh Steven Asarch. What's his bio?

[00:05:17]I just looked at his Twitter and he's done like real journalism, I think. Um Steven Asarch.

[00:05:26]Freelance writer on the internet, words at Rolling Stone, Complex, Insider, Newsweek, and so many more.

[00:05:32]Steven Asarch. Do we have a bio somewhere? Steven Asarch.

[00:05:37]Bio.

[00:05:38]Internet culture writer and freelance journalist based in New York City, known for covering digital trends, gaming, entertainment, and in culture.

[00:05:47]Asarch began his journalism career after graduating from Baruch College with a degree in journalism in 2014. He initially explored stand-up comedy in high school, but shifted to writing, eventually focusing on internet culture, gaming, and entertainment news.

[00:06:04]His reporting spans of viral internet phenomena, gaming industry news, celebrity culture, and digital media trends. Okay. All right, well, we got you.

[00:06:15]>> He's the only liberal in his Western mountain community and is absolutely willing to push back on his neighbors.

[00:06:21]>> I grew up very Mormon, come from a very Mormon household. I was raised very strict, where I think that also made me want to, you know, go the opposite way.

[00:06:32]And so, um when I was supposed to go on a mission, it's kind of when I just figured out like, "You know, I don't know if I believe so much in the Mormon church anymore and don't want to go on a mission." And, you know, I became kind of a um black sheep, if you will.

[00:06:51]>> Youval grew up in Israel and served in the IDF, where he listened in on Hezbollah communications. But, after spending some time traveling the world and becoming more radically left, he denounced his former country.

[00:07:02]>> think people are bad or good. I think everyone's a little selfish and people can do bad things or good things. I think if you serve in the IDF, you're doing a bad thing. I think if you grow out of it and you look back, when I was a kid, I didn't have the political knowledge and understanding, right? Um to really view that in that way.

[00:07:23]And I want to be grateful to to myself.

[00:07:26]>> Eric grew up with Rush Limbaugh in his ear and started going down the gamer right-wing rabbit hole, but managed to pull himself out before he was too far gone.

[00:07:34]>> What really hit it for me is I I was watching Hasan and then like clips of EsfandTV at that point.

[00:07:41]And I started seeing things kind of go on a turn for the worse with the Amber Heard and Johnny Depp trial.

[00:07:49]Like it just turned into a giant content machine. While I was watching Hasan more and more, and especially like caring about that kind of thing and the the politics that under underlaid with Hasan's content.

[00:08:04]>> Wait, didn't Hasan >> What is Azan doing? He's like It It feels like It felt There was a huge disconnect there, and then it became more and obvious that it was just >> Wait, didn't Hasan I I don't want to get this wrong. Didn't Hasan kind of Didn't Didn't he side with like the Johnny Depp, right? Am I crazy? "Hiker covered it heavily on stream, but framed his own take carefully. He opened up about his personal history in abuse in an abusive relationship and how that experience shaped his views on the case.

[00:08:37]After watching evidence, he said given his history, he was going to side with Johnny Depp. Importantly for the stated versus substantive read, he hedged that position rather than declaring it clean-cut. He admitted his own experiential bias, clarified it wasn't rooted in misogyny or the idea that women lie, and characterized it as a mutually toxic relationship, attributing that framing to the couple's counselors' testimony rather than himself.

[00:09:03]He also meta-critique had a meta-critique of the spectacle. He mocked the audience's impulse to sort the case into a clear good guy and bad guy, saying everything is a Marvel story.

[00:09:16]Okay.

[00:09:18]I mean, it sounds like he was kind of like have your cake and eat it, too, situation.

[00:09:23]Where he was for sure perpetuating and playing into the spectacle of that trial, but tried to He tried to couch his opinions in something that would be more palatable to a progressive audience. It's just On the surface, that's what it looks like.

[00:09:40]Um this is Claude, huh? I hate how both sides it can be at times and so verbose.

[00:09:45]Well, you can actually tell it to to be more concise.

[00:09:51]Um yeah, anyways, that's a whole other topic, man. That's a whole other topic.

[00:09:56]Johnny Depp stuff was crazy, man.

[00:09:59]The way the internet infantilized Johnny Depp was insane to me. Just insane.

[00:10:09]It actually drove me partially insane.

[00:10:14]The way that they infantilized Johnny Depp was crazy, man.

[00:10:20]Was crazy. There were There I remember there was like a week-long stretch in the trial or like maybe like a few days that focused on Johnny Depp's substance abuse. And it was just so obvious. It was so clear that this guy had a serious substance abuse problem.

[00:10:38]He was not just like a borderline alcoholic. He was a blackout drunk. And and those kinds of people, you guys, it is chaos.

[00:10:48]It's just chaos. And maybe that's my bias, okay? I have a bias there cuz I was in a relationship with someone who is a blackout drunk. Every day blackout drunk.

[00:10:58]I lived with this person and it was crazy.

[00:11:03]And they And then you try to talk to them about the craziness the next day and they're they don't even remember what you're talking about.

[00:11:09]So like that that was my bias going into that into that uh into that trial. But like that I'll never forget like there was a picture of him Johnny Depp on at at during his daughter's birthday party.

[00:11:23]His daughter's like I don't know like I'll make it up 12-year-old birthday party or something like that.

[00:11:28]And he was passed out drunk at like 2:00 p.m. Okay? That is That is like an advanced significant alcoholism. And I'm not saying Amber Heard was like this like perfect person. Like I think she clearly contributed to the apparent toxicity of that relationship.

[00:11:47]Which is the case every single time.

[00:11:49]It's like every single time the enabler or the like the the partner of the person who is drunk is going to they're going to contribute in their own up way.

[00:11:56]Um but people like just didn't they they were willing to be endlessly charitable with with Johnny Depp during that during that trial. And it just it made it kind of drove me insane. Seemed a little crazy. I never in my mind thought to myself, well, Amber Amber Heard did nothing literally did nothing wrong.

[00:12:13]But there are some people that were like Johnny Depp did nothing. Like And and do you I would get I got in so many arguments with people online at that time cuz it was such a spectacle.

[00:12:26]And peop- the the defense that people were running for Depp like I would I would press people like on, well, what a what do you think of his like very apparent significant substance abuse problem?

[00:12:41]And the pushback that I got from more than one person, it was not just one person.

[00:12:45]Like many people, the way that they pushed back was like, well, if she was a better partner then he would have had a better chance of getting sober.

[00:12:59]Like they they were blaming his substance abuse problem on her.

[00:13:05]They were offloading the responsibility entirely on her. That was crazy to me.

[00:13:10]And there were just so many people that were doing that.

[00:13:12]>> Anna is an immigration lawyer who is seeing firsthand what ICE and this administration's immigration policy is doing to those seeking refuge.

[00:13:20]>> I'm friends with a lot of the chatters in the community that have been long-term communities. And I had one chatter message to me the other day and he he was just like, "Oh, everything sucks, you know, nobody's doing anything."

[00:13:30]Um and you know, I just had to remind him that we have to have revolutionary optimism. And for myself to keep my mental sanity, I have to be delusional.

[00:13:40]I have to think that things are going to get better because especially you know, immigration, I can't I could tell you story you know, we could have like Wow.

[00:13:52]>> Uh it felt like there were a few different contradictions baked into that comment.

[00:13:58]She says, "I think we have to have revolutionary optimism." Which is a thing that Hasan says pretty often.

[00:14:06]But also she says, "I have to be delusional that things are going to get better."

[00:14:11]So she's like she's hopeless is what it seems like.

[00:14:14]She's no different from the chatter that she's trying to comfort.

[00:14:20]Um we have to have revolutionary optimism and you know, like I have to be delusional and think that things are going to get better.

[00:14:27]Why am I supposed to have revolutionary optimism if you're telling me basically that things aren't going to get better?

[00:14:32]>> I wanted to make sure I wasn't just getting Hasan's traditional audience.

[00:14:35]>> that's like they're a lot like they're an older demographic. A lot of them just watch for news.

[00:14:40]>> Hasan's audience is mainly white, male, millennial, and makes between 50 to 100k. What I found is that the average Hasan viewer either watches him live on his stream >> He you know, he does this 8 hours a day.

[00:14:54]I prefer watching >> his YouTube >> or spends their time watching his VODs on YouTube. Some are democratic >> He's not going to like that.

[00:15:03]What did he just say about the demographic? Hasan's audience is mostly white. What did he say?

[00:15:08]>> that like have full-time jobs that like they're a lot like they're an older demographic. A lot of them just watch for news.

[00:15:16]>> Hasan's audience is mainly white, male, millennial, and makes between 50 to 100.

[00:15:22]>> Where did he get this? Did he get the there there there was a poll done recently. Oh, is this he's getting it from Hassan's own internal census?

[00:15:32]How does he do the census, by the way?

[00:15:34]Is it even possible that he could do an accurate census?

[00:15:38]Um I think this is from his own census here.

[00:15:45]August 2025 Is it just literally a Twitch poll?

[00:15:50]Cuz we have polls. Like we have multiple polls at this point.

[00:15:55]I think there have been two or three polls that have tried to tried to dive into Hassan's audience.

[00:16:02]Anyways, this is I think according to his own census, it's about 60% white, about 18% Hispanic, Latino, about 8% Asian Pacific Islander, about 7% black, and about 10% mixed other.

[00:16:23]His audience is 8% non-binary.

[00:16:27]How is that possible?

[00:16:29]How is that possible? That's like I don't I just I don't trust that. I don't that can't be that can't be accurate.

[00:16:38]Um Did you watch the Bull Work interview with Pete Buttigieg? Very good. No, but thank you for putting that on my radar.

[00:16:43]Uh about 29% female, about 62% male.

[00:16:50]About 50% of his audience are 30 plus.

[00:16:54]20 About 23% are 26 to 29. Uh another 19% 22 to 25. What are these What are these um demographic breakdowns here?

[00:17:10]About 8% 18 to 21.

[00:17:13]Um About 14% of his audience make 100k plus.

[00:17:21]About 24% make between 50 and 100k.

[00:17:26]About 21% make 20 to 50k.

[00:17:31]About 14% make um up to 20k.

[00:17:37]And about 27% are unemployed.

[00:17:41]Okay. I'm still shocked at this non-binary number. There's no way.

[00:17:47]There's just There's just no way that uh you know, almost 10% of his audience are non-binary, right?

[00:17:53]>> Okay. What I found is that the average Hasan viewer either watches him live on his stream >> I try to watch Hasan live, but I work. I stream eight you know, he does his 8 hours a day. I prefer watching his YouTube >> or spends their time watching his VODs on YouTube. Some are democratic socialists.

[00:18:12]>> You know, being a democratic socialist, that's what I like to call myself. There aren't a lot of communities where you feel like you really can belong and your opinion um you know, that people share the same opinion as you.

[00:18:25]>> And a lot of them just used Hasan to replace the traditional media coverage they were already watching.

[00:18:31]>> I used to love mainstream media. Like I know until I realized how [ __ ] up like and how like skewed everything was.

[00:18:38]>> Unlike a lot of influencers who tend to spread doomerism when it comes to their content, Hasan is more upbeat. He's more hopeful and his viewers REFLECT >> WHAT?

[00:18:50]>> I don't believe you. Excuse me?

[00:18:52]What about his election night coverage just like a month and a half ago for the California primaries?

[00:19:01]Do you remember how inconsolably depressed he was that night?

[00:19:05]He said that California libs want What did What did he call it? Homo-fascism or something like that?

[00:19:12]>> That was to replace the traditional media coverage they were already watching.

[00:19:16]>> I used to love mainstream media. Like I know until I realized up like and how like skewed everything was.

[00:19:23]>> Unlike a lot of influencers who tend to spread doomerism when it comes to their content, Hasan is more upbeat. He's more hopeful, and his viewers reflect that.

[00:19:33]>> It's not a thing of hey, socialism has won no money and no phone or no anything really, you know, consumerism. If this is the system that we live in, then we have to play the part and slowly hope that we can change it for the better.

[00:19:47]>> What does that even mean?

[00:19:51]We have to play the part.

[00:19:54]What? What does that have to do with Hasan? Well, we live in a capitalist society, you know, so we got to we got to buy $5,000 outfits.

[00:20:01]Got to play the part.

[00:20:03]What does that even mean? What does that mean?

[00:20:05]I don't know what that means.

[00:20:09]Uh Bush Bush spring with two Australian, did I miss the cringe?

[00:20:13]No, no, this is the cringe.

[00:20:15]>> I also wanted weirdos.

[00:20:16]>> And this guy says, "If you speak to Hasan fans, you will be speaking to absolute lunatics who will threaten and kill you over a minor difference of opinion. That's diff- that's the difference between the two audiences.

[00:20:25]Nobody has threatened me with any of those yet."

[00:20:28]>> I desperately wanted to get people who weren't the the the most normal human beings. I wanted those that were outlandish.

[00:20:34]>> I don't think you would have had a problem finding them.

[00:20:37]>> of my asthma gold people, but I just couldn't find any. I looked through hundreds of messages, and they were all fairly normal people with jobs and hobbies and lives, but mostly they were just regular folk.

[00:20:49]>> I don't think that we are as toxic as many people may claim we are. Really, we just want to give people health care.

[00:20:58]>> I swear to god.

[00:21:00]>> You know what? You know what?

[00:21:03]I agree with the far left and MAGA.

[00:21:05]Mainstream media is cooked, okay? I agree. You know I agree.

[00:21:12]I agree with you.

[00:21:15]I I am so convinced, you guys.

[00:21:18]I don't think the media knows how to cover like Hasan. And it makes sense, like it does make sense when you think about it, because if you're the the subject of your reporting is a live streamer that streams like 8 hours a day, it's like an ocean of information.

[00:21:40]And so it's like, where do you even start? And so I'm sympathetic to the idea that that's like a Herculean task to write an article about somebody who has put out that much content. It's like, where do you even begin?

[00:21:54]Um But yeah, I don't think they know how to cover him. I really I don't I really don't think they know how to cover this guy.

[00:22:03]I don't think they know how to investigate him. I don't you know I yeah.

[00:22:08]>> We also would like health care in ensuring that material needs can be met without breaking people's wallets and making sure that everyone has a roof over their heads.

[00:22:18]>> And I've actually >> I was just from my experience his community and the online far left were even more vicious to me than like MAGA.

[00:22:31]I kind of I kind of split with that crowd during the Biden years cuz I just started to see way too many signs that these people were like arsonists.

[00:22:42]And they're brutal, you guys. They are brutal.

[00:22:47]At least just as brutal as MAGA, at least.

[00:22:51]>> actually come up with a list of reasons >> He's like, you know, I tried to find the weird people, but they all seem so normal. And the people he's like he's talking to her like, we just want people to have health care and And you just you miss the Like here's a here's something that journalists should do if they're going to cover Hasan [ __ ] okay? Like they need to be aware of the fact that he is one of the most prolific brigaders of all content creators that exist on the internet.

[00:23:17]Very few people weaponize their audience as much as he does.

[00:23:23]I think he loves that power. I think he really loves that power. I think he loves treating his audience like a cudgel, like a weapon.

[00:23:33]He will pull people's tweets up on screen and when he does those people get savagely harassed for days. Like people have to, you know, private their accounts. He's not the only person that brigades. I don't I don't I don't like brigading.

[00:23:49]But he is one of the more prolific brigaders.

[00:23:53]And so one thing that would be useful for journalists is to pull up threads.

[00:23:57]Like pay attention to his stream and when he features a tweet on his stream of somebody that he doesn't like and he gives negative commentary or something like that. Actually go to that tweet, find that tweet and then look at the replies and you'll see um the consequences of like every time he does that.

[00:24:16]Um what's a brigade? A brigade is when you use your audience to mobilize against a particular creator or particular post.

[00:24:27]So if you pull up a tweet on screen, he's not telling his audience go to this post and, you know, leave negative comments, but he doesn't have to.

[00:24:36]That's the point.

[00:24:38]He doesn't have to. He knows that they're going to do it.

[00:24:41]He did before, like when he first started internet stuff, he was a bit more explicit when it came to brigading stuff.

[00:24:50]But now he doesn't even have to do that.

[00:24:52]If he pulls up something on his screen, he knows that his audience will go to that post and then just like just spam it. Just spam it with some particularly nasty stuff.

[00:25:04]Um but none of these reporters ever bother to look at that stuff.

[00:25:08]>> is why people like Hasan. First off, he's hot.

[00:25:12]>> Hot?

[00:25:13]>> He's hot. He's very hot.

[00:25:15]>> Everyone I interviewed mentioned Hasan was hot and attractive.

[00:25:18]>> Hasan is is young, attractive.

[00:25:21]>> People always make jokes saying like they will people be drawn in by his looks and then they'll stay for his takes.

[00:25:29]>> He's smart, he's intelligent, he's well-spoken. Uh >> People say the same thing about me, but I don't like I don't like being objectified.

[00:25:38]Personally, I don't like it. I don't like that attention.

[00:25:40]>> Um he's attractive.

[00:25:42]>> So my wife likes him cuz he's attractive.

[00:25:45]>> They also agreed with a lot of the things he says.

[00:25:47]>> Or he aligns with me on a lot of different things, but he >> If you think it's easy being super attractive, you're wrong. Okay, people think that they make assumptions about you.

[00:25:59]It's actually quite difficult.

[00:26:02]You guys wouldn't understand.

[00:26:03]Very few people in the world understand what this is like, okay?

[00:26:06]>> does have a lot of influence and his word does carry a lot of weight with me.

[00:26:09]And you know, when it comes to politics, we agree with 99% of everything, you know.

[00:26:12]>> He's also accessible. People can just write chat messages >> Um is saying that Adri looks like Dottie and Elisa racist?

[00:26:23]A little bit.

[00:26:24]I don't think she looks anything like Dottie and Elisa.

[00:26:28]That does I'm not going to lie, that feels slightly racist. Uh El Sayed was just interviewed on Pod Save. Okay, too many things to watch. We got Bulwark, Pete Buttigieg, El Sayed on Pod Save. I think we'll watch that after this.

[00:26:42]>> messages and get directly to him. You can't do that with Rachel Maddow.

[00:26:46]>> I think that's number one is accessibility. You can pop up on a stream. I have a stream up right now.

[00:26:53]You know, you can type in chat and maybe get a response.

[00:26:57]>> He's also consistently live every single day. It doesn't matter where you are, you can tune in and watch him. And if you don't catch him live, there's still hundreds of hours of VODs that you can do to kind of get what he's saying.

[00:27:09]>> I've always been on Twitch, but never watching political streams. I started watching him and it just became like a daily try to watch him and then it became a, you know, I'm going to watch his VODs at like, you know, twice the speed. I I try to watch all of the VODs, uh especially while I'm working.

[00:27:28]>> So, in order to know Hasan, we kind of have to start at the beginning. Hasan was born in 1991 in New Jersey, but went back to Turkey when he was very young to live a more affluent lifestyle with his parents. You've seen the horse picture that my last Asmongold viewer absolutely loved.

[00:27:45]>> The first thing that really got me hooked with watching more of him is >> Asmongold >> born in New Jersey, but he grew up in in Turkey. I think for me, I'm I'm someone who loves to understand others.

[00:27:59]>> When he was in college, he said that his family started to lose their wealth.

[00:28:04]>> I said I was broke because my parents, my dad, went broke by the time I got to college >> and went back to New Jersey to attend college, where he went to Rutgers and got a degree in political science and communications. While in his last year of college, he managed to get the Nepo Baby boost, sorry pirate software, and got a job working at his uncle Cenk's internet political show, The Young Turks. There >> Pirate software, I feel like I just completely missed that whole like I I don't I don't I I vaguely am aware of Pirate Software.

[00:28:40]Apparently, he's just a guy that was like, he kind of blew up.

[00:28:45]And I think I remember I watching a couple videos on him about the drama because I got curious and I guess he used to say that he he worked at Blizzard. He used to say that like in every stream like I used to work at Blizzard.

[00:28:59]But I missed like that whole arc. Appar- Wasn't it like a year-long arc and then he just he kind of fell off like pretty pretty intensely.

[00:29:07]>> Here, he sort of floundered around for a bit coming up with his identity. There are a bunch of clips from that era of him being a super bro that have not aged well in the slightest and he has mostly denounced.

[00:29:19]>> Those were satire and that literally was like 10 years ago.

[00:29:24]>> But are still used by people online to paint him as, you know, the alpha bro Chad that they want him to be.

[00:29:30]>> That [ __ ] is not even archived. That [ __ ] was like deleted and uh he's founded like a while ago to try and cancel me.

[00:29:37]>> He manages to nail down a format that works for him and starts posting on Facebook under the breakdown.

[00:29:42]>> I was a member of TYT cuz I didn't watch it live. I would go back and watch the vod and Hasan uh I don't know he showed up he showed up and like as an as a I guess a presenter sometimes. I didn't like him then.

[00:29:55]Uh it kind of started clicking whenever the breakdown videos would come up.

[00:29:59]Uh that's when I was like, "Oh, I like what this guy's saying. It's very provocative."

[00:30:02]>> There, he creates the prototype for the content that we all kind of know today.

[00:30:07]He's brash, he's politically centered, and he's conventionally attractive.

[00:30:11]>> I'm just going to do a year in review of my new favorite woke prince Ben Shapiro's year in review.

[00:30:17]>> The people who started watching him the earliest that I spoke to were watching him during this Young Turks era.

[00:30:22]>> I first came across this on on Facebook of all places. I just remember his his videos popping up on my feed where he was doing um the breakdown on TYT. Um and so he was touching on a lot of issues. Obviously, the the police brutality. There was a lot of stuff around Israel-Palestine that at that point in time no one was really talking about. So, the views just start pouring in. But, on Facebook you kind of hit a wall pretty easily because the audience is just boomers and my wife for some reason.

[00:30:55]>> The only person I know outside of Hasan community that watches Hasan is my mom.

[00:31:00]But, my mom because she follows him on Facebook.

[00:31:04]So, she thought that she think that her son is a Facebook influencer and she only watches Hasan clips on Facebook.

[00:31:09]>> So, in 2018 he decides to make the move over from Facebook to Twitch to find a younger audience according to an interview he did with Kotaku.

[00:31:17]>> But, I was working at Twitch on Hasan had joined the platform pretty sort of like, you know, recently after his departure from TYT or however that had happened that I remember talking to somebody who was managing that like relationship between the creator and our partner manager and being like >> Zachary ex-ex-ex Twitch employee wearing an ACAB hat.

[00:31:47]Do I know Zachary? Did I have any interactions with Zachary?

[00:31:52]I used to have deep connections at Twitch, you guys.

[00:31:58]I I was friends with like five to 10 like founding employees.

[00:32:05]And then one day it was like they're all gone. I don't know anyone at Twitch.

[00:32:10]He was your handler? No, I think mine was the guy that got that that that got into the Me Too situation. What was his name?

[00:32:18]There was a There was a Twitch employee that was like pretty well known.

[00:32:23]And then I think he disappeared after some Me Too stuff.

[00:32:27]What even is this video? Uh it just popped up on my YouTube feed.

[00:32:32]Uh it's just a profile of Hasan's audience.

[00:32:36]His name was Hasan. Yeah, it was Hasan something. I can't remember his last name, but yeah.

[00:32:40]Which is just as bad as Rumble? Just a propaganda arm? Um Maybe in the other direction. Maybe Soraka, thank you so much for the primer. I appreciate it.

[00:32:52]>> Yeah, you should really like help them figure this out. Help this Hassan person figure this out because I think this could be really big. Like clearly there's like a there's like a path forward for somebody not just doing games coverage.

[00:33:05]>> Before Hassan showed up, Twitch was an entirely different platform. IRL had just been introduced a couple years earlier.

[00:33:11]>> Hang on a minute.

[00:33:14]I feel like this person is rewriting history cuz by the time Hassan started streaming on Twitch, he was definitely not the first person to break away from gaming.

[00:33:26]And he was definitely not the first person to talk about politics on Twitch.

[00:33:32]Uh I don't know at what point did Steven start start talking about politics? I'm a much smaller streamer, so you know, I'm not I don't want to overstate things. I was talking about politics starting in 2015.

[00:33:46]It was not the focus of my content, but we definitely talked about politics a lot in 2015 and 16. And then just each year it got more and more and more and then eventually it just became pure politics.

[00:34:00]And this Twitch guy's like the way he's recounting the tale, he's like, you know Hassan came around and I told my my fellow co-workers at Twitch, there might be something here.

[00:34:10]Maybe just maybe Twitch creators can do more than just playing video games, which is just a complete rewriting of history. That is not how that happened.

[00:34:20]>> clear, but it was still mainly about the gaming. Viewers claim that they bled purple. They were >> Hold on, I just want to re-listen to what he just said.

[00:34:28]>> pretty sort of like, you know >> So she thought that she think that her son is a Facebook influencer and she only watches her son streams on Facebook.

[00:34:37]>> So, in 2018, he decides to make the move over from Facebook to Twitch to find a younger audience, according to an interview he did with Kotaku.

[00:34:44]>> But I was working pretty sort of like, you know, recently after his departure from TYT or however that had happened, that I remember talking to somebody who was managing that perf- like relationship.

[00:34:57]>> I don't even think that's true. I think he started streaming on Twitch when he was still working at TYT.

[00:35:04]Pretty sure.

[00:35:06]And And that would be something that would be like really easy to fact-check.

[00:35:10]And so, if I don't know. I don't I think Steven Did Steven Did he do Did he do like any due diligence in terms of looking into the claims that were said?

[00:35:22]Or was he just like, "I'm just going to talk to the people and just repeat what they say?"

[00:35:25]>> relationship between the creator and our partner manager and being like, "Yeah, you should really like help them figure this out. Help this Hasan person figure this out because I think this could be really big. Like, clearly there's like a there's like a path forward for somebody not just doing games coverage."

[00:35:43]>> Before Hasan showed up, Twitch was an entirely different platform. IRL had just been introduced a couple years earlier, but it was still mainly about the gaming. Viewers claimed that they bled purple. They would talk in Twitch emotes like Kappa and Poggers. And they would one day dream of reaching partner and getting that exclusive Twitch purple hoodie that I'm not sure they even make anymore.

[00:36:04]>> He really like pioneered this idea of covering the news. He >> I'm going to lose my mind.

[00:36:14]That is not true.

[00:36:17]Well, I mean, listen. If you want to say that he was one of the one of the first like It's true that in the grand scheme of things that he is one of the more notable examples of people that were covering news when Twitch was more of a gaming platform.

[00:36:35]That's true.

[00:36:38]Maybe I'm nitpicking a little bit here.

[00:36:40]Like maybe it's accurate to say that he's a bit of a pioneer, but you have to stretch that out like by a couple years cuz I think he started on Twitch in like 2018.

[00:36:51]But again, I had been talking about the about the news and covering the the news on my on my gaming stream back in starting back in 2015. And I'm sure that there were people that were talking about politics before me. But if he's it would be accurate to say that he's like one of the more notable examples of of like the early crop of of creators that started to incorporate the news into their content.

[00:37:20]Like I think that would be I don't know.

[00:37:22]Maybe I'm nitpicking.

[00:37:25]But I mean they just I'm just saying people had been talking about the news for years by the time he started doing it, you know.

[00:37:32]>> He started with like trying to cover politics through gaming, Fortnite, and all of those things. And it was like trying to make That's what everyone was doing at the time, which was like how do we get to Twitch and how do we activate gamers and do this? Obviously, I don't believe it was that cynical from his perspective. And his content is pretty much what he does now except he used What?

[00:37:57]>> You don't believe it was that cynical?

[00:37:59]What do you mean? You don't think that he was trying to reach the gaming audience? That's what this guy is saying in his in his kind of like thesis about Hasan. That's exactly what he's saying he did. Which there's not even a There's not even a problem with that.

[00:38:14]That's fine. If he was like targeting gamers as like this new kind of potential demographic, that's that's that's Hey, that's capitalism, baby, right?

[00:38:22]>> It's culture, internet gossip, whatever he can kind of do to fill the 8-hour gap he needs to speak during the day.

[00:38:29]>> He's done a lot of things that I think are challenging the assumptions of like what a Twitch archetype is, pushing those boundaries, bringing in This is more recently, but like bringing in other lines of culture, other spaces.

[00:38:42]Obviously, in the beginning, it was just like you can talk to the Twitch audience as if though they aren't just a bunch of gamers. It is very productive to be of the culture, to be a gamer, to be somebody who, you know, is these things rather than just what I would say like you know, your your Hillary Clinton Pokémon Go to the polls. It's like you're not just pandering.

[00:39:05]>> In 2020, Hasan broke the internet when he streamed Among Us with AOC and Ilhan Omar. I was working at Newsweek at the time, and everyone around me in the newsroom saw this as truly brown-breaking political content. What I saw was a >> group of strangers trying to kill each other in a virtual spaceship. But, that >> Did he just say brown-breaking?

[00:39:26]Just Just redo that take, bro.

[00:39:29]>> just pandering. In 2020, Hasan broke the internet when he streamed Among Us with AOC and Ilhan Omar. I was working at Newsweek at the time, and everyone around me in the newsroom saw this as truly brown-breaking political content.

[00:39:43]>> He did. He said brown-breaking.

[00:39:47]Just redo the take.

[00:39:50]Takes They would take 10 seconds to redo the take.

[00:39:54]Fix it in post, you know what I mean?

[00:39:55]Like uh switch to a shot of B-roll and then just like dub it, for Christ's sakes. He clearly said brown-breaking.

[00:40:03]>> And when all I saw was a group of strangers trying to kill each other in a virtual spaceship. But, that moment cemented the future of political discourse that we're currently dealing with today. Before 2020, a politician appearing on a livestream >> that feels a bit broad.

[00:40:19]What he just said. What did he just say?

[00:40:22]That feels a bit broad. I mean I remember that. I remember at the time thinking, "Oh, this is really cool."

[00:40:30]But the way that he is telling the story is like everything changed after that.

[00:40:35]It completely changed the way that, you know, politics and and and online discourse melded. You know, it probably contributed quite quite a bit. It was groundbreaking. I will give it that, but like that feels a bit broad.

[00:40:50]>> 2020, a politician appearing on a live stream or a podcast was rare. Mark Maron would get Obama, and that was pretty much it. But after that live stream, politicians realized that they had an entirely untapped audience that they could reach. And they could go on their podcast and go on their live streams and start talking with whoever the hell we want. There's no way Steven Miller's wife would have a podcast if it wasn't for that Among Us live stream.

[00:41:18]>> Okay. All right. Reign it in a bit.

[00:41:22]You know, reign it in a little bit, okay? That feels like a bit of a stretch.

[00:41:28]That feels maybe like a little bit of a stretch. We need to re- revisit what this person He just said that Katie Miller would not have a podcast today if it wasn't for the Among Us stream. Did he really just say that?

[00:41:39]>> pretty much it. But after that live stream, politicians realized that they had an entirely untapped audience that they could reach. And they could go on their podcast and go on their live streams and start talking with whoever the hell we want. There's no way Steven Miller's wife would have a podcast if it wasn't for that Among Us live stream.

[00:41:57]>> He really said that?

[00:42:00]He really said that?

[00:42:01]>> We're discussing that doesn't mean that Israel >> From there, Hasan's popularity exploded.

[00:42:07]And he was no longer just a Twitter >> That is such a delusional thing to say.

[00:42:12]What?

[00:42:13]What?

[00:42:15]Why would you say that?

[00:42:16]>> Which streamer? He was a voice for a generation.

[00:42:19]>> We do need someone who has motion, a loud voice who doesn't you know, to continue pushing like the message that, you know, up and like we need to be more aware of what is going on and who to be mad at.

[00:42:32]>> Hassan outwardly denies being a terrorist and quite frankly it bothers him when people call him that word.

[00:42:39]>> I wish they stop calling me a terrorist.

[00:42:43]That's what I wish.

[00:42:44]I wish they stop calling me a radical.

[00:42:46]None of these people are radical. They just want health care. They want to end >> Oh my god.

[00:42:52]>> And he's being targeted by traditional media and >> Thank god. I'm I'm going to vomit.

[00:42:59]>> like couple years ago like >> Um I'm going to vomit.

[00:43:02]>> They were mostly from like YouTubers and like drama slop tubers who were just like looking for drama. He was an easy target and they would just use anything to attack him. And now it's evolved into literally Fox News, you know, congressional members attacking him.

[00:43:17]Ritchie Torres was one of the first ones and then I forget who the other two are that did the bill saying, you know, we need to condemn Hassan and Candace Owens.

[00:43:27]It's actually wild because, you know, he's a Twitch streamer, right? Like why are we putting so much Like why are we putting so much attention >> Who cares if he's a Twitch streamer?

[00:43:37]Who What do you mean who cares? He's He's got a massive massive massive audience.

[00:43:43]He's one of the most watched streams in the world consistently month after month. He has a like enormous uh political following.

[00:43:56]Or social media following. Like he he's super relevant. He has motion, as they say. Who cares if he's a Twitch Why are they talking about it? He's just a Twitch streamer. It's like, well, who gives What year are we in? It's 2026, bro.

[00:44:08]>> on his Twitter >> But unfortunately, it's not just those on the other aisle that are disagreeing with him. It's also Democrats who are labeling him as an extremist.

[00:44:16]>> Democrats are panicking. Liberals are panicking. And even some conservatives are panicking. And the reason why is that, you know, like like he's he doesn't follow the filter of the Democratic Party. He's not paid by Corus or >> Oh my >> via the minis- Israeli Ministry of Affairs.

[00:44:33]>> Oh my god.

[00:44:38]Oh, there's no way.

[00:44:40]Not paid by Corus?

[00:44:44]Oh my god, you guys.

[00:44:46]Jesus Christ. He's so duplicitous. I'm still thinking about that clip. He's like, I wish people would stop calling me a radical. It's like, well, you view being a radical as a good thing. You don't think that's a bad thing.

[00:44:59]He's a radical or he's not a radical heavily dependent on who he's actually having a conversation with. It's all It's all a part of this entryism stuff, you know.

[00:45:08]>> People started to really care about the things he did and hyper-focused on all the little clips that started to go.

[00:45:14]Clips of him that look like he's shocking his dog.

[00:45:17]>> Kaya, please just [ __ ] >> Oh my god.

[00:45:24]Oh my god.

[00:45:26]It looks like he's shocking his dog.

[00:45:28]Excuse me?

[00:45:30]There's no way this person is actual journalist.

[00:45:32]You know what? Honestly, guys, I'm starting to get magapilled on the media.

[00:45:37]Maybe they were right the whole time.

[00:45:38]Maybe we were wrong. Maybe maybe the media is just like cooked.

[00:45:44]Cuz this guy has a degree in journalism, I think, right?

[00:45:47]Maybe Maga was right.

[00:45:50]Maybe the fake news situation maybe maybe it's maybe they were right. Maybe they were just ahead of the curve.

[00:45:54]>> started to really care about the things he did and hyper-focused on all the little clips that started to go. Clips of him that look like he's shocking his dog.

[00:46:03]>> Kaya, please.

[00:46:04]And go Just stop.

[00:46:06]>> And saying that America deserved 9/11.

[00:46:08]>> America deserved 9/11.

[00:46:10]>> Get captured out of context and spread across social media.

[00:46:14]>> god.

[00:46:16]Clips that looks like he's shocking his dog gets spread out of context. Oh my god.

[00:46:21]>> Don't know if I want to rant about America deserved 9/11 right now.

[00:46:24]>> I remember >> Uh Wally.

[00:46:25]>> I mean, that seems convenient.

[00:46:28]That seems convenient.

[00:46:30]>> Uh when the whole like America deserved >> not even going to I'm just not even going to talk about that.

[00:46:33]>> 11 thing a lot of people like, "Whoa."

[00:46:35]I'm like, "My The way he rationalize it, it's like decades upon decades of the US government interfering in the Middle East. You think we were not going to get attacked?" People did not deserve to die, obviously, but it's like America almost getting a taste of its own medicine and it purposely even ignoring the warning signs that an attack by plane was going to happen.

[00:46:53]>> Because clip >> purposely ignoring the warning signs.

[00:46:58]We're We're We're in uh jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams territory here.

[00:47:04]>> thing is big business. If you can get a viral clip to go viral on different platforms, you can make real money off of it. And Hasan is a really easy way to do that.

[00:47:12]>> There is a clipping industrial complex when it comes to like people like Hasan.

[00:47:16]Cuz it gets so tiring like seeing like, "No, there's context to this. Stop. A 5-second clip is not the whole story."

[00:47:23]>> But there are viewers of Hasan's who are actually trying to fight back against the clipping.

[00:47:27]>> It is crazy. There are so many clipping like accounts. Like it is crazy. My thing is though is I clip in real time.

[00:47:35]>> That's kind of my thing. Like I just post things in real time before people can get to it and make it into something really bad.

[00:47:41]>> went to China and became super excited over their little >> What are you doing with your life?

[00:47:48]I'm sorry.

[00:47:50]She better be getting paid for that, right? Like there's no way she's doing all of this for free, right?

[00:47:56]She has to be making some money off of like her TikTok account or something, right? Cuz I know she's not making any money from that Twitter stuff, from her Twitter posts.

[00:48:06]Cuz if she's just doing this for free, if she's just a stay-at-home mom, is that what's happening here?

[00:48:13]Cuz she said she's a mom, so does she So she drops off her her kids to school in the morning and then just spends 8 hours every day clipping a live stream?

[00:48:25]I'm sorry. That that's like that's pretty That's pretty sad, right?

[00:48:32]Like she has to There's no way If she's making money off of this, I'm not going to judge it too harshly. If she's not making money off of this enterprise that she's a part of, that is just If like if I were her partner, I'd be like, "Listen, we need to talk about how you're spending your time, okay?"

[00:48:47]I don't mind being the breadwinner, but uh not if you're going to, you know, you need to go get a job. If you're just If you're just sitting at home clipping a live stream for 8 hours every day.

[00:48:57]Um someone in chat mentioned it earlier.

[00:49:00]I didn't I made a note of it, but I didn't I didn't react to it, but somebody said the whole goal is to get Hasan to watch this on his stream. That is, I think, the correct take.

[00:49:11]And that that's another kind of like perverse incentive to the kind of coverage that he gets.

[00:49:18]Um like Taylor Lorenz, I think uh specifically panders to Hasan's audience.

[00:49:27]Because she knows that, you know, she can get him to watch her video or read her article from featuring it on his stream. And this is I've seen this happen now like dozens of times where these journalists like bait him into reading their articles or watching their videos, and the whole idea is to just like, you know, drive traffic.

[00:49:48]And uh kind of drives me insane a little bit.

[00:49:53]Games are for kids with $5. This is giving me the vibe of the propaganda must be understandable to even the simplest of minds and repeated endlessly until it becomes truth.

[00:50:04]>> red book. And he went to Cuba to deliver aid. These all became massive internet viral moments that had hundreds of thousands of clips being pushed online.

[00:50:13]>> Like I'll I'll tell I want to say how I feel when I see those things. I'm like, that's what you were thinking about?

[00:50:19]Like it flies right through my head.

[00:50:21]It's like, okay, he has he could have a like a 50,000 Rolex. I mean, I'd be like, damn, 50,000 for a Rolex, that's kind of crazy. But like, okay, what about going to Cuba in a 50,000 Rolex, which that didn't happen. I'm just giving an example. The point is Cuba.

[00:50:35]Like the subject matter is there. Hassan is not the subject >> That tells you that Hassan is too narcissistic and self-centered to care about the issue more than he cares about himself. Anybody could have predicted that doing a like poverty tour of Cuba with the stated purpose of exposing the consequences of American sanctions and the suffering that that causes in an island nation like Cuba anybody could have predicted that wearing a $5,000 outfit would distract from that.

[00:51:16]Anybody could have predicted that.

[00:51:18]Obviously, that was going to take away from what they were trying to do. But he didn't like how did he not put that together? Because well, like to him it's he's not thinking about it in that way.

[00:51:29]He's just like, oh, I just I look good in this outfit. Or whatever it is, but that was so predictable. That was such a predictable like anybody could have predicted that.

[00:51:39]Obviously, people were going to make fun of him for for doing that or we're going to point out the ob- and contradiction of that whole situation.

[00:51:48]>> No matter when he goes to Cuba, I feel like I've garnered some sort of like conviction.

[00:51:53]>> Eric here should be mad at Hasan, not the people who had the response. He should be mad at Hasan for not obviously putting two and two together that, you know, it's probably not a good idea to go to Cuba wearing an outfit that's $15,000.

[00:52:07]>> for the things that actually matter and the things that Hasan is highlighting, too, like Cuba. So when he goes to Cuba in, I don't know, combined $5,000 worth of outfit, I Okay.

[00:52:23]Cuba's dying.

[00:52:25]>> And the government started to pay attention. He's currently banned in the UK. He has a bill in Congress calling him an anti-Semite. And his trip to Cuba is currently under investigation.

[00:52:35]>> It is literally the Streisand effect.

[00:52:37]You guys propped him up. You guys keep talking about him, feeding it. Like people have been subscribing to him again cuz I think his subscriber count really, really went down. I think 2023, 2024 for reasons. But like mainstream media and all of his haters have been propping him up to be this big thing.

[00:52:54]>> See, I didn't even know. I didn't even know if she's being conspiratorial with that or she's saying, you know, he spoke out from a pro-Palestinian perspective and lost subscribers. I don't know if that's what she means or if like Israel, you know, like uh manipulated people or something. Like I don't I don't know if she's getting conspiratorial with it or what. Like I don't know why she wouldn't just say.

[00:53:21]Like why not just say it right there?

[00:53:25]Just say the thing. Like, you know, it was around the time of October 7th and his coverage that his sub count went down. Just like just say that.

[00:53:34]Um but also like I don't know if we can do like a direct one-to-one. Like was that the only reason?

[00:53:41]Um there was also high inflation during that time, so you know, maybe maybe people were just, you know, pinching pennies and cutting back on unnecessary costs. And so, how much of that was for his coverage of of the Gaza situation and and versus like macroeconomic trends or what if his content was just getting kind of stale?

[00:53:59]Like, I don't know.

[00:54:01]>> thing, and people have been checking him out and then subscribing.

[00:54:05]>> All of that attention just raised his profile, and he started giving his support to progressive candidates like >> Brad Lander, of course, was one of the winners. Julia Salazar was one of the winners. Claire Valdez >> Uh, as you guys know, I'm trying to get socialists elected >> was one of the winners. Basically, it was a clean sweep for the Zorn candidates.

[00:54:23]>> Hassan's optimism about the world and the fact that he actually mobilizes his audience to do something about it is incredibly appealing.

[00:54:30]>> I think he deserves some glaze as well, cuz it feels like everyone's attacking him, and I feel like Nah, he's kind of awesome, and he's really smart, and he does good things, and I support him. And like, there's points where he will say things that I disagree with, and I >> Such as?

[00:54:48]>> sure that we have the same idea of how society should run, but at the same time, I feel like these are I feel like that's the space on the left where we can have a conversation about our opinions about things, and we can say this thing that and it all comes from this place of we >> Bro, come on.

[00:55:05]Dude, like that's what I love about the left.

[00:55:10]Is our diversity of opinions, you know?

[00:55:13]If we disagree about something, we just hash it out, respectfully, of course.

[00:55:17]You know, we can disagree on things.

[00:55:19]Well, no, the whole point is that it's an orthodoxy. You you actually can't disagree about things.

[00:55:24]If you disagree even minutely on any given topic, you're side supporting, you know, boot-licking capitalist imperialist warmonger warmonger or something like that.

[00:55:42]Maybe from within the bubble?

[00:55:46]He possibly thinks that this is true?

[00:55:49]You know, that's what we do on the left.

[00:55:51]When we disagree, we just talk it out.

[00:55:53]It's like, wait, what?

[00:55:55]What are you talking about?

[00:55:57]Um Yev was talking, Hutch.

[00:56:01]I don't understand. How do you feel about Destiny's plan to start mobilizing his audience to contact these journals about their coverage of Hasan? I don't really know anything about that.

[00:56:09]Original heirloom with $5, I watched Twitch politics since like 2019. I'm genuinely sad to see it devolve into tanky rumble.

[00:56:17]Still a great gaming and variety platform though.

[00:56:21]Well, man, Twitch has taken a pretty significant reputational hit in the last like five or so years. Like, just just been one thing after the other.

[00:56:32]I don't understand like the Clancy situation. I don't know how that guy still has a a job. That's that's crazy.

[00:56:39]Did he Did he really just say this, you guys?

[00:56:41]>> I feel like this point feels like everyone >> He's like, you know, we disagree on some things, but we just talk it out. That's what we do on the left.

[00:56:47]What are you What?

[00:56:49]How could you possibly believe that?

[00:56:51]>> is attacking him and I feel like Nah, he's kind of awesome and he's really smart and he says good things and I support him. And like there's points where he will say things that I disagree with and I I don't I'm not sure that we have the same idea of how society should run, but at the same time, I feel like these are I feel like there's this space on the left where we can have a conversation about our opinions and about things and we can say this thing and this and it all comes from this place of we care about this and we want to things to be better. And in that context, if I disagree with someone, we will reach the conclusion that's best for everyone cuz we both want the same thing.

[00:57:29]>> There's a a that I agree with when it comes to Hasan. I'm anti-billionaire.

[00:57:33]I'm pro-government regulation. I am anti-Zionist. Free Palestine. And I believe that the world should be a better place.

[00:57:41]>> From my perspective, Zionism >> Pro-government regulation? That's pretty broad.

[00:57:47]Anti-billionaire? That's pretty broad.

[00:57:49]>> I think it also screws us up. I think it's bad for us. I've seen how brains of people. I've seen how the country has gone more and more to the right. I've seen how it deletes cultures, our own cultures, our own Jewish cultures of different like I I only when I was like in my 20s, I learned like songs of different type of groups. So, Zionism kind of flattens everything.

[00:58:15]When when they ask you what's the most Jewish thing into you, they're not actually asking about Jewish culture.

[00:58:20]They're erasing it. And so, I see that for me that like I feel like Israel is under I like to call it a miasma.

[00:58:29]I like that word cuz it's like >> the Charlie Kirk song in the background?

[00:58:33]Is that what this is?

[00:58:34]>> years that's like cool It's it's in the way people talk and this is something that like is so um pervasive.

[00:58:41]>> Is it an Israeli or something?

[00:58:43]>> and talks to that nature. And so, to me, Zionism is anti-Semitic in its core.

[00:58:49]>> Personally, I don't really want to watch Hasan. He's not really my vibe. I don't really love >> you.

[00:58:55]>> punditry except when I used to watch The Daily >> I simply don't believe him.

[00:58:58]>> in middle school. I want to make it clear that it's not just Hasan's haters.

[00:59:02]Hasan's own viewers have things that they don't like about him. Some of the people I spoke with really dislike the new suits that he keeps wearing.

[00:59:11]>> I feel like Hasan has grown in style, really takes himself seriously. He's starting to wear the suits now and I'm like, "Okay, you can stop that now."

[00:59:21]>> Like I know he's been wearing suits a lot lately to like I guess woo the Fox News people or whatever.

[00:59:27]>> That he is incredibly bro-y.

[00:59:30]>> There's a bunch of different things that could people can misunderstand with him.

[00:59:33]So, people who are too serious will see him as like a dumb jock or whatever.

[00:59:37]Like, even sometimes I'll show cuz my family's socialist. So, they're the same they have the same viewpoints as me, but they don't really like watching him cuz they find him a little bit too abrasive sometimes, which he is. Like, >> That he keeps fighting with chat no matter what.

[00:59:52]>> He does get angry.

[00:59:53]>> Why is every baboon in my chat so quick to try to over-correct thinking that you're going to come across as smart?

[01:00:01]Like, most people understand exactly what I'm saying. Why are people so stupid?

[01:00:06]>> Baboon, he says.

[01:00:07]>> I mean, I think it just comes with the territory. Like, if you're just talking to a crowd of people at all times that are talking back to you, I think it can cause some sort of negativity to come out every now and then.

[01:00:19]>> Every now and then.

[01:00:20]>> I think that sometimes black and brown voices are not taken as seriously. Um, I know like this I think he's really tried to have a diverse group of politicians, >> That's a serious allegation, I'm just saying.

[01:00:32]>> itself is sometimes very aggressive. And sometimes I have felt that like my opinion is being ostracized because it's not the majority opinion in that chat.

[01:00:42]>> Many people are saying this.

[01:00:43]>> the topic of black issues I guess better than other people or his counterpart his counterparts would who aren't black kind of thing.

[01:00:53]He handles them in the way that he knows how to handle them as a white guy. I do think because he's afraid of being clipped out of context because of what he's been accused of before, that he just lets the community like do whatever cuz he's trying to rattle off like a bunch of like talking points that like we've all heard before. And then, because he's trying to get through it, people are in the chat are just saying a bunch of crazy [ __ ] >> Your statement itself is not incorrect.

[01:01:19]Okay? The deployment in this situation against me as though I am at odds with what you're saying is incorrect.

[01:01:27]Chat is doing the thing where they agree with my overall analysis, but come at it as though they're in disagreement. There is no disagreement.

[01:01:36]And I can't tell if people just have some kind of uh I I mean, tensions are high. So, I guess that's probably part of the reason.

[01:01:46]>> But most of all, he was being hyperbolic.

[01:01:48]>> the R-word right there.

[01:01:50]>> Oh, you know, I said America deserved 9/11 and it was misconstrued.

[01:01:55]So, stop hyperbolic language and it gets taken out of context or whatever.

[01:02:00]>> I have friends who are same political spectrum as I am and they see him as an extreme kind of like too extreme for their taste. And it's mainly just because of the clips and the hyperbolic statements. I think it's misunder- maybe it's that doesn't make him look good.

[01:02:17]He's very provocative in what he says.

[01:02:19]>> Would the ultra-orthodox Jews leaving Israel be hilarious?

[01:02:24]Okay.

[01:02:26]If they serve in the military and then they get untrained, inbred asses shipped into southern Lebanon.

[01:02:33]>> That was a bad That was a bad phrasing.

[01:02:35]Yeah.

[01:02:35]>> Does he think that Hasidic Jews are inbred because he's an anti-Semitic? No, because anti-Semitic people, they don't just say one thing.

[01:02:45]If you he would he would say other stuff. He would have It would reflect in other ways.

[01:02:50]>> He makes a grand, over-the-top joke or statement that in context seems okay, but when you look at it in a 30-second clip, it's absolutely awful.

[01:03:01]>> Paradox with $5, we got so robbed by the Twitch House Committee never hear hearing never happening, dude.

[01:03:08]Dude. Yes. They took away what would have been unbelievable content.

[01:03:17]unbelievable.

[01:03:19]They were about to hit people with like dozens of problematic Hasan clips.

[01:03:25]If you guys don't know what we're talking about, there was a hearing on the docket at one point that was going to feature the CEOs of a bunch of social media companies. I think Zuckerberg was going to be there, Dan Clancy was going to be there.

[01:03:43]I think Bezos was going to be there, maybe? I don't remember.

[01:03:47]And it got canceled at like the last minute. I don't even remember why.

[01:03:52]>> incisive language that they could present, they went back to a a very obvious instance of larping.

[01:04:01]>> But again, Hasan is a streamer. His job is to go live for eight hours a day. He has to keep talking. He just has to keep saying things because he has to keep his viewers entertained. He has to keep the algorithms entertained.

[01:04:13]>> His language is hyperbolic, right?

[01:04:15]I never I for one has never, you know, had the heard a call of actually, you know, causing harm or violence or anything like that to to get there. He's never done that.

[01:04:26]>> I'm sick and tired of it.

[01:04:28]Left-wingers, liberals, you need to be showing your opponents on there, okay? You need to be them.

[01:04:37]You need to be shanking these mother and letting their letting their just ride on stage. What the is this [ __ ] man?

[01:04:47]>> Um, you know, so at least not to how I've interpreted it.

[01:04:52]>> But even with all their criticisms, overall, they still prefer it to mainstream media, which is sort of gone on a long death march over the past decades. Political punditry started when Rush Limbaugh crawled out of the primordial ooze of AM radio and evolved with Rachel Maddow with the millennials, reaching its final form with Hasan [ __ ] People love to get their information from somewhere else and have it filtered through someone else's ideology. I used to love watching Jon Stewart on The Daily Show [ __ ] on Bush and all the horrible stuff of that era.

[01:05:24]>> believe in wearing a helmet.

[01:05:27]Unless I have crashed and I'm flying towards the curb noggin first.

[01:05:32]>> I find too much political content brain rotting. Look what happened to Asmongold.

[01:05:37]>> It's not commentary. It's the truth.

[01:05:40]That's why you support organizations that by Jews and that are literally designated terrorist organizations.

[01:05:46]I mean it's it's it's this isn't commentary. People can find this on your Wikipedia probably.

[01:05:50]>> Now, Hasan isn't for me, but it's clear he's important to a lot >> Well.

[01:05:55]>> His political action >> Well.

[01:05:57]>> bro-y attitude and overall optimistic view on the world has given people hope and I can't knock that. It's clear his viewers are looking for something to >> What?

[01:06:08]>> And Hasan I >> Did he just say Hasan's op to overwhelming optimism or what did he just say?

[01:06:17]>> Hasan is overall >> Wikipedia probably.

[01:06:18]>> Now, Hasan isn't for me, but it's clear he's important to a lot of people. His political actions, bro-y attitude, and overall optimistic view on the world has given >> What? What? What?

[01:06:33]What?

[01:06:35]Are they just handing out journalism degrees to literally anybody these days?

[01:06:39]What is happening right now?

[01:06:41]Hasan's whole brand is like we we live in a nightmarish dystopia.

[01:06:47]That that's his whole brand. Is everything is just unimaginably dystopian.

[01:06:52]>> And I can't knock that. It's clear his viewers are looking for something to >> Hope for what?

[01:06:58]>> is giving them that opportunity.

[01:07:00]>> I've improved myself in my looks, my physicality. I've tried to take care of myself and my my hair and going to the gym when I can or try to work on those muscles, not physical muscles, but like those habits. I think that's an important part of it cuz if we take care of ourselves, we're taking care of the people around us.

[01:07:21]>> And in this depressive era and if there's nothing else that gives you hope, if you have to get it from a 6'2 himbo, so be it. And now I'm going to go do something that I think a lot of Hasan fans would appreciate and I'm going to go work.

[01:07:47]video sucked.