LA Oil Spill! Starship Test Flights | PUNCHIE TV Ep 089 - Wed 5/27/26

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[00:01:28]Uh we love those super chats and stuff and whatever. And uh we got some interesting stuff to get into today. Hopefully you can get into it in the right way. Uh Nick is here with us >> to another hazardous chemical situation.

[00:01:50]Uh What are you doing?

[00:01:55]Producer producers doing his producer stuff over there. Uh >> yo, what's up, Bill?

[00:02:04]>> Hey. Hey, Nick.

[00:02:08]We're going to be talking about uh oh, you know, we're rockets and stuff going wrong and wow, the Pope and all kind of good stuff today.

[00:02:28]Uh, first thing we're going to go to is let's play East LA spill reaches LA River.

[00:02:41]An oil spill reaching the LA River, the LA water supply. What could go wrong?

[00:02:51]>> I love chemicals.

[00:02:52]>> Hazardous chemical situation. A crude oil pipe burst in East LA yesterday morning, spilling nearly 2500 gallons of oil. It happened at Caesar Chavez and Eastern Avenues after a construction crew laying a fiber optic line may have ruptured a 16-in pipe.

[00:03:10]Some of the oil leaked through some storm drains and into the LA River near the city of Southgate. The leak has been stopped, but residents are being warned that if they smell a strong o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o odor, they should close windows and doors and turn off their air conditioners. The cleanup could take several days to complete. In the meantime, residents are pushing for a full investigation to determine possible health and environmental impacts.

[00:03:40]>> Whatever.

[00:03:43]I guess there's a little leak. It doesn't look that bad. Just, you know, uh, you know, folks, they're they're always cutting cutting the phone lines. Now the phone line people cut something else.

[00:04:01]Oh, what a mess.

[00:04:04]And >> so our understanding is that the telecommunications company was pulling an a fiber optic line uh east and west.

[00:04:10]That damaged the north and south uh pipeline that runs on Eastern Avenue from about Kern County down to the port of LA. Uh that damage resulted in two two uh exits on the asphalt side. So on Eastern Avenue, >> crews say digging out the damaged pipeline and replacing it could take a matter of days.

[00:04:33]>> It's not that bad. Even though I don't think thinking of going into water is kind of like the worst.

[00:04:40]LA leak into LA River.

[00:04:43]>> It's oil. This is crude oil.

[00:04:45]>> We have crude oil pipes running underneath the city.

[00:04:48]>> Oh yeah, >> I didn't know that.

[00:04:49]>> Well, there's c in certain places. Yeah, you have stuff like that. I guess you got to move it around, right? But it's not like moving through the city like we need crude oil. Like we need oil.

[00:04:56]>> I mean we you know there's like there's like literally like uh uh change the the view to us by the way.

[00:05:06]But you know there's there's like there's like oil wells around the city.

[00:05:10]I mean you got one you got one down the street here. So you know they have stuff they have pipes and stuff going on >> all over the place.

[00:05:20]What? What are you doing?

[00:05:29]>> Okay, >> something's >> something's odd, folks.

[00:05:35]>> But, uh, >> you said, "Yeah, >> someone told me that there were the city. There was like full on in the city like like those oil what do they call those? Like >> there's oil wells. Yeah.

[00:05:51]>> That thing that like >> Yeah. The pump. The pump, >> right? Oil pump. Yeah. There where they're pumping stuff up from crude oil up from the ground. Yeah. There are >> in the middle of the city. There's this big building.

[00:06:01]>> Yeah.

[00:06:01]>> It's just a big square nondescript. This guy sword. He's like, "You know what's in there? An oil pump." I'm like, "Whatever, crazy wacko." No, no, he wasn't lying to me.

[00:06:10]>> Right. It looks like it looks like those old oil pumps that you'll see back in, you know, back in oil fields. You know, those pumps that you see, uh, they look like, I don't know, like a little dinosaur that's tipping back and forth >> or like the little bird, >> right? That's what I'm talking about.

[00:06:26]Yeah, the little bird. It looks like that. And they're they're out there. Uh, but they they're in the middle of the city, but there's, you know, like a building around it that makes it look like it's not what it is, you know. Uh but if you look inside, that's what it looks like. So there's all kind of infrastructure and stuff that's, you know, been around since since the city started. Uh including, you know, um you know, oil pipes going down the street >> and they hit one and now there's oil.

[00:06:58]>> Yeah. Usually it's the other way around.

[00:07:00]It's like the oil people or the or the water people are going and hitting the telecommunication line or the fiber optic line or the or the uh uh there the copper thieves are stealing the the copper, you know, which are messing up the messing up the the telecommunication systems, but this time it went the other way around.

[00:07:19]>> I used to know some copper thieves.

[00:07:23]>> They were they call them skids in Canada.

[00:07:26]>> Skids?

[00:07:27]>> Yeah, >> they have them in Canada, too. They call them skids.

[00:07:29]>> Oh, Canada. Don't mention Canada. Can >> So, this LA oil thing is separate from the chemical thing.

[00:07:37]>> The LA Oh, yeah. These are all different things. Let's go to the next one.

[00:07:40]>> What a mess.

[00:07:42]>> We have more.

[00:07:45]Oh.

[00:07:49]Uh, we have more. Well, an unprecedented hazmat emergency is unfolding in Southern California, and now officials have found a crack in an overheating toxic chemical tank. A California Governor Gavin Newsome has declared a state of emergency as crews in Orange County's Garden Grove.

[00:08:08]>> This happened like a day ago or two days ago, just a couple of days ago. Uh it's basically a big tank uh of some kind of chemical something like something like super glue or one of the constituents of something like super glue.

[00:08:26]>> Apparently it's called methylmethacrylic.

[00:08:30]>> MMA >> MMA >> at the GKN aerospace.

[00:08:34]>> Wow.

[00:08:34]>> Facility.

[00:08:36]Anyway, >> to stabilize the situation, more than 40,000 people in the process are under evacuation orders. Here's the county's interim fire chief.

[00:08:49]>> Your protection, your life safety is our paramount responsibility right now. We know you're out of your homes. We want to get you back, but we cannot do that until it's deemed safe.

[00:09:01]>> Max Gordon has the very latest from Los Angeles for us. Good morning, Max. Hey, Julie. Well, fire officials say they've been conducting an all-night mission monitoring the overheated tank to see if the threat of an explosion has passed.

[00:09:14]This after firefighters found a crack in the tank, which they believe has been relieving pressure. Even though that crack formed, fire officials say air samples show there are currently no chemicals leaking into the atmosphere.

[00:09:25]The tank contains methylmethylryate used to manufacture acrylic plastics like plexiglass. It can be highly flammable and the tank currently holds about 7,000 gallons of the chemical. The crisis started on Thursday afternoon when first responders arrived at GKN Aerospace in Garden Grove to find the large tank venting chemical vapors as it overheated.

[00:09:45]Ah, good enough. Everybody, you get the idea. Uh but yeah, it's just a tank and it uh well, it's just a tank with some chemicals in it and they were able to get it under control, but it is kind of interesting how it's, you know, around a kind of a not quite an industrial area.

[00:10:11]There's like people that are kind of close to it.

[00:10:14]>> Oh, the tank.

[00:10:15]>> Yeah. this wherever this place place is, you know, so they had to to run all the residents out of the the area, but it didn't catch on fire or anything. Uh, you know, I wonder why it's kind of a lot of this kind of stuff going on last few days. Here, let's go to the next one.

[00:10:35]>> Apparently, it's a refrigeration valve that failed.

[00:10:38]>> They couldn't keep it cool, so that's why they were spraying it with water, hoping to keep it cool.

[00:10:42]>> Oh, it started some reaction, right? And they couldn't keep that >> according to NBC News, >> right? They couldn't keep it keep it cool. Yeah, that's it's stuff is some of this stuff is especially if there's some kind of reaction going on. Stuff is can be really dangerous. Uh but it didn't catch on fire or anything. So I think we're all fine.

[00:11:05]Got that through that one. Yeah.

[00:11:10]What other fi what other other five other crisises are going on?

[00:11:15]>> Well, we got one more to one more to talk. What happened?

[00:11:20]>> Oh, something happened.

[00:11:23]>> No.

[00:11:25]>> No.

[00:11:26]>> Remember that. That means >> right. Yeah. What happened to Long View, Washington?

[00:11:35]>> This means check the chat.

[00:11:37]>> Whatever.

[00:11:40]with signals was Bill.

[00:11:42]>> Oh, all right. Whatever. There was this Long View. There's in Long View, Washington. There was uh apparently there was an implosion at a I think it was a paper mill. There was an implosion of a tank and then it caught on fire and then blew up and like >> I was just kidding. There's another one.

[00:12:05]>> Yeah, this is Evan Washington.

[00:12:08]Uh it like uh it it well one person's conferred dead and there's a bunch of people missing and they're probably going to be dead too. They're just not confirmed dead. So, you know, major mess. Yeah. And all happened right around this time. It's like I don't know.

[00:12:32]Maybe maybe the maybe the you know people maybe people are Maybe people are uh maybe we people are like on the people who know what they were doing were like on vacation uh for Memorial Day and you know the newbies were all in control you know and and that's where maybe we you know things are going wrong for that reason.

[00:12:58]Uh I don't know it's kind of a lot of stuff to go wrong right around this time right around Memorial Day.

[00:13:07]I don't know. Grasping for straws here for explanation.

[00:13:10]>> Have you ever seen that meme? It's It's usually in different formats, but it follows usually the formats like as follows. Something like um and my son was looking at this XYZ old technology or something. And he asked me, "Dad, why don't we make them anymore?" And I told him, "We don't know how.

[00:13:27]>> We don't know how.

[00:13:29]>> Why don't we have chemical tanks any safe chem? We don't know how."

[00:13:33]We forgot how.

[00:13:34]>> We forgot how.

[00:13:37]Oh my gosh.

[00:13:40]It reminds me of rockets. Why aren't we making a Why don't we just remake the Saturn 5?

[00:13:46]>> Dad, why don't we make the Saturn 5 again?

[00:13:48]>> Oh, we don't know how.

[00:13:53]Ah, what a mess.

[00:13:55]>> All those engineers are like gone.

[00:13:57]>> Yeah. Oh, they they all they're all uh real old or or they kick the buck at one or the other.

[00:14:07]Oh, the brain drain goes on.

[00:14:12]But it's happened in civilization since the beginning.

[00:14:17]Folks build stuff.

[00:14:20]spokes builds fantastic technology and it really works well for like a couple of like a hundred years and then as it starts to break down nobody knows what what to do with it or how to fix it.

[00:14:34]>> Do you think there do you think we were do you think we come from an ancient society?

[00:14:41]>> We all come from ancient >> Okay. Yeah, that was dumb. Okay, wait.

[00:14:43]Hold on. Hold on. Wait. Back up. Back up. Wait. Do we come from an ancient like advanced society?

[00:14:50]Well, long ancient advances, I think.

[00:14:52]So, yeah, sure.

[00:14:53]>> Sure. We're all >> You say sure.

[00:14:55]>> Yeah. We all come from I mean I probably most of us probably come from some back at some point some advanced civilization.

[00:15:04]>> Long lost.

[00:15:05]>> Yeah. Long. It didn't last long. You know, it's like all of our we all we human beings have our innate ability to send everything to hell basically within I don't know a few generations. That puts into question our historical record, >> right? I mean, you can be you can be like the was it the Mesopotamian, right?

[00:15:26]You know, or you have all this technology. You got big ships and all this other stuff.

[00:15:33]>> That's too controversial for me.

[00:15:35]>> It's all it they got it all going on. We basically kick kicked everybody else's ass all around, you know.

[00:15:42]>> Don't say that, kids.

[00:15:43]>> Excuse me. Yes. We we we basically wiped out our enemies and then from within we go wipe ourselves out.

[00:15:54]>> That's a pretty fascinating theory I got to say.

[00:15:57]>> Is it even making me uncomfortable?

[00:15:59]>> Is it even a history of record?

[00:16:01]>> Is it even a theory at this point?

[00:16:04]>> I mean we are even looking at the same thing happening to us around us right now.

[00:16:09]>> Yeah. How we like destroy ourselves.

[00:16:10]>> Yeah.

[00:16:11]>> Yeah. And if you do, there'd be no record. There would just be relics.

[00:16:15]>> Right. Right. Right. And especially if you know the destroyers basically from within going, you know, they're they're they're the people writing about it, then you're they're really not going to tell you the truth about about what happened.

[00:16:31]>> And if such an advanced society, let's say, I don't know, digitized all information like we are, maybe something destroyed all that information.

[00:16:38]>> Oh, I don't know if we're we had anybody. I mean, >> that's what I'm talking about, by the way. I'm talking about coming from an ancient society that like >> made the internet already or something.

[00:16:49]>> I don't know.

[00:16:52]>> That's crazy. I'm sorry.

[00:16:53]>> I mean, there's some indication that we had some really uh hardcore space fairing civilizations a while back, you know, and they just don't know. They just don't have, you know, it's like they were writing on paper and all the paper's gone.

[00:17:12]There's no record of him. All there is is like u you know I don't know.

[00:17:16]Everything's either under the sea or under ash. Uh all the records gone. I mean we only know about about and these other places because they were all writing everything on clay tablets.

[00:17:30]>> What did you just say to me?

[00:17:32]>> Huh?

[00:17:32]>> What did you just say to me?

[00:17:34]>> I think it was the city.

[00:17:37]I think the city was caller uh in Mesopotamia.

[00:17:41]>> Oh, >> uh the Sigrian. Was it the Syrian Empire? I'm trying to think of which empire it was. Uh >> we're going back.

[00:17:52]>> I'm going way back. Yeah. You know, we're talking I don't know.

[00:17:57]>> I heard we know very little.

[00:17:59]>> BC, 6,000, you know, that kind of thing.

[00:18:02]Way back.

[00:18:03]>> I heard we know very little of them.

[00:18:05]>> Yeah, I know. But but we know very little because everything's destroyed, man. Where every if anybody's writing on paper and there's like no no records left, all the records have been destroyed. I hear that writings and uh uh I hear it's been estimated that writings from even from uh uh writings from uh you know 2,000 years ago uh when uh uh what's the what's the country in Italy 2,000 years ago?

[00:18:39]>> Rome.

[00:18:40]>> Rome when Rome was around the writings and everything >> only 2% of those writings have survived.

[00:18:47]>> Yep. So I didn't know that but I know everybody 98% of the writings uh from Rome the stories everything is just gone.

[00:18:57]>> I heard something similar. Yeah, >> that's why they call it the >> what do they call it the is it the enlightenment or renaissance at some period those folks basically found some of those writings were like well we got to bring this back the Greek philosophers the Roman well oh this is really good stuff and they were like we got to go back to original stuff and they're like we got to put this out there >> right but you know 98 >> birth of the west >> 98 98% of stuff is gone I mean and they found a lot of it was like that someone someone had a copy and you know they were using the paper and wrote something else on it and and you happened to find some some you know basically they were reusing paper. They erased what was there and you were looking and they found some information in what was erased under the the the the what was under what was put on top. You know that that kind of thing.

[00:19:49]>> So we're like really far from it.

[00:19:50]>> We're just getting little pieces of all this, >> right? You're getting little pieces of all this stuff. So you can just think of something like uh without technology let's say maybe in Rome if you think about it someplace like Rome or oh my gosh man if you think in Rome they probably had their own version of that some civilization thousands of years earlier and they went and picked and got all that kind of stuff you know and had pieces of that information you know at that time and they were like wow look what we have all this stuff and and and they were like maybe even trying to preserve it in their way in that time and >> white people >> not necessarily but they're trying to preserve it that time and now what all that's all gone you know they're probably taking little parts of of stuff and and taking it home and having it like uh or putting it in their museums from stuff that was like 4,000 years, you know, >> this is a really interesting.

[00:20:57]>> I mean, all kinds of stuff like that.

[00:20:59]And now that stuff's all gone. I mean, you you just All right, we got to move on.

[00:21:04]>> That's pretty interesting. I want to know what the Romans had for that. I'll find out for you.

[00:21:07]>> Right. Oh, Romans.

[00:21:09]>> Not today.

[00:21:10]>> The Romans. Romans had a lot of They were They were living it up and in their way.

[00:21:18]>> Chad's like, "Rome's a city, Bill, not a not a country." Whatever.

[00:21:23]>> That's right.

[00:21:23]>> You get what I'm talking about?

[00:21:24]>> Yeah.

[00:21:26]>> The Roman Empire.

[00:21:30]>> The Empire.

[00:21:33]All right. Uh let's go to Starship.

[00:21:39]There was a launch on on uh on Friday of the new and improved version three Starship test flight 12 and I think it went well. Well, let's play ignition.

[00:22:13]Look at the shock waves, man.

[00:22:28]Chamber pressure nominal.

[00:22:33]Yikes.

[00:22:41]that.

[00:22:42]>> Well, this is the first first part where something kind of went wrong. But >> that fireball.

[00:22:50]>> No, you see all the engines went they're trying to restart the engines. You can see it right over there on the right on the left side at the bottom.

[00:23:00]>> Uh let's play.

[00:23:04]There you go. was successful.

[00:23:06]>> Yeah. Well, >> not quite successful.

[00:23:09]All right. This is where they were putting out their simulator satellites.

[00:23:13]That room went really well.

[00:23:16]I've heard some criticism of this two engine flip successful flip >> shot.

[00:23:36]>> All right. Wait, here's the good part.

[00:23:41]>> Yeah.

[00:23:44]What? Blew up Starship.

[00:23:46]>> Yeah, it's just it it's just No, it's not that. It's just when it falls over, it's just gonna blow up.

[00:23:51]>> It's just not made to fall over.

[00:23:54]>> So, it's it's history once it basically falls over. Uh but you know there have been some talk about certain things about that that flight and I was one of the things they've said is uh when it was going out the methane pipe.

[00:24:15]Hey, can you pull it back up?

[00:24:20]Uh one of the things he said is some people said the methane pipe some things went wrong. You know, not everything.

[00:24:26]This is the first flight of the version three of this this rocket. So, it has a new rocket engine.

[00:24:35]Sheesh. So, it has a new rocket engine.

[00:24:39]It has uh uh What are you doing?

[00:24:47]>> You try to get to this part.

[00:24:49]>> Whatever. All right. Yeah, this part.

[00:24:58]But it has a new rock, you know, it has a new rocket engine that's more powerful, more streamlined than than the last. But it's that's but it is a new rocket engine, you know, it's not it's uh or it's like a new version of the same rocket engine. It's significantly different and and uh it's it's you know, it's basically they've they've re-engineered the rocket to to a large extent. So, it's uh it's it's it's a little different. Uh it's a little different. Oh my gosh. I don't know. I'm looking at some stuff here.

[00:25:45]Uh let's go to the other Right. Let's go to the other view. But but they uh but some stuff is you know not everything went right on that launch. So there have been some some people kind of talking about you know things that went wrong. One of the things they thought some people thought the methane pipe may have there's like a huge methane pipe right down the middle of this rocket that they've made so that when it spins around the the fuel still stays in the right place rather than slloshing around because if if if the engines in pull in like air bubbles, it's basically over for the engines. if they do that. So, so to keep the fuel coming like it's supposed to, they've made this this huge pipe down the middle. And some people thought that uh it it didn't work because um because maybe that pipe had broke, but if the pipe broke, man, the thing just would have the whole rocket would have blown up right away if that pipe had broke.

[00:26:57]Another thing people have said is uh there's one engine that went out, I guess, on the way up. You could kind of play this stuff, by the way, while I'm doing this. Uh, one of the engines, uh, so as the rocket's coming back down, uh, no, as the rocket's going up, as the rocket's going up, uh, one of the engines will actually went out, you know, went out energetically. You know how they put it? The rocket rocket engine blew up basically. And they're thinking that that explosion went and took the other engines out around it because one of the things they've done on this rocket is they've gotten a uh they've gotten rid of a lot of the shielding between the engines. So the engines don't have shielding from the engines right next to them. So if one blows up, you could have one kind of taking out the one right next to it. Um but >> you're talking about this bottom part, the part that flew back, >> right? You can see that's not exactly all the engines are are supposed to be all restarting back, but they're not restarting back, you know. Uh, and one of those engines on the way up actually went out and blew up. That's that's what it stopped running. We don't know how how energetic it blowing up was.

[00:28:15]>> Um, and then, you know, these things are that first stage is supposed to come back and land and it wasn't able to to come back and land like it was like it's supposed to. Um, but I just don't think that's that's what happened. And uh uh but they have a they haven't I mean everything really went well in this, you know, to I really think everything just went well. Well, this is my two cents, but everything >> says that as this fireball is behind him.

[00:28:49]>> I know it was meant to happen though, right? You were telling me.

[00:28:51]>> Yeah, >> they plan for it to fall over and blow, >> right? If it lands in the water, it's going to fall over. Uh, it kind did kind of go and and not land come down as controlled as usual, but I mean basically no tiles came off on the way up. You know, when the rocket usually takes off, they've been having problems with tiles popping off, you know, so it gets into space and there'll be like five or six tiles all over the thing popping off. I didn't see any tiles. No tiles popped off. And if they and there may have been some tiles that popped off, but they were at the end like when it come back down to the water, then they popped off. That's a huge improvement, you know, over uh over them popping off, you know, at launch, you know, they're basically popping off after they were used.

[00:29:40]>> That's right. That's right.

[00:29:42]>> I mean, that's it. It's it's uh and you know the rest of this stuff is uh stage I think the stage separation uh was was too fast.

[00:29:56]Um they they got rid of what they call this hot staging ring thing.

[00:30:03]Uh we might have to put some video or pictures of this stuff afterward to put it with this stuff so people can actually see what it is. But they have this thing called a hot staging ring and they they got rid of it. It's really heavy. So they they were able to make that that kind of truss system that's right at the top of the super heavy rocket. If you take a look at it, you'll you'll see it. It looks like a it's a kind of a truss system at the very top of the super heavy rocket. And that's new on this new version. Uh but but the uh stage separation they've they have to find a way to make this rocket the the the second stage flip around, but they can't have it flip around too fast. So that's their new I think that's that's that's SpaceX's biggest new issue is they have to Everything else went actually pretty darn well. I mean, the engines aren't super reliable, but they're new engines. They're just just kind of like that, you know, with so many of them. Uh, but they have to find some way to make that uh transition uh that new rocket uh more uh the stage separation. They have to make find a way to make it work uh more controlled rather than I guess you know uh basing it on how the engines start up.

[00:31:42]You know if the engines don't start up right how you want them then things start flying and not the way you you or going faster than they're than you want them to go. And that's what that's the main thing that went wrong this time. Otherwise, that that first stage would have came back and uh landed on the water like it's supposed to. Uh and it was a big I got to also say it was you know these kind of things are like uh there was three steps forward and two steps back and um you know real world I was looking at the difference in speed between these two rockets and um so wowers stop playing around though Bill how close am I to a space flight a commercial space fight.

[00:32:36]>> Stop messing around. Tell me the truth.

[00:32:38]How close are we?

[00:32:40]>> I don't know. This is close, but that hot staging thing is kind of a problem of theirs. I mean, everything else actually worked it out worked out pretty well. I mean, this rocket is going like 600 at stage separation. Uh, it's going like 600 miles an hour faster than than the last version of the rocket. And that that translates into real uh weight, extra weight being able to be put back into space. You know that um and and it did it earlier.

[00:33:17]And I don't know, you got to know understand the rocket equation, but rockets rockets are always >> TWWR >> thrusttoway ratio.

[00:33:27]>> But it's not just about that. a rocket is. Hey, let's play that one clip of the the rocket going sideways.

[00:33:34]Uh so, so rockets are always fighting. There's two things going on when a rocket's going up up upward. And one is that uh the rocket is is holding its own weight with thrust. And then there's more than holding its own weight, which is actually doing something. So we always have so it's it's like half the rocket. So let's say you're going twice twice the the weight of the rocket and thrust then half the weight is being put into holding the rocket steady and half the weight is actually getting you someplace. Okay. So you're always fighting gravity with rockets and if you don't have enough gravity then you just stay still.

[00:34:19]>> That's right.

[00:34:20]>> Right. But it's also >> TWWR of zero.

[00:34:23]>> Right. Exactly. TWWR0, but also if you if it spends less time uh accelerating to high velocity, then you've also spent less time uh of hovering. So, you're actually uh it's actually more efficient, but the faster you go, you know, the more heat you make. And then anyway, the faster you go, the heat, the more bigger and stronger you need the rocket to be. and the more heat you create and then you know so you have to have >> you're saying if you're at like a 0.1 of TWWR you're just inching you're just crawling out of earth's gravity and that's going to be very expensive but if you could get out of earth's gravity faster of course you bring in other problems that's that's >> right exactly but if you know it's a it's a balance but but if you're able to get out of gravity faster uh then your rocket is actually more efficient because you spent less time uh your rocket has spent less time basically ally hovering.

[00:35:24]It's part of part of your rocket is uh part of what you're putting out, but your thrust is just the the thrust that's needed just to hover, right?

[00:35:33]>> Just to move upward, you know, just to hover. That's half your thrust. Maybe, you know, half, maybe uh maybe a third, sometimes more, sometimes more than half at takeoff.

[00:35:47]And this rocket, you know, their their new rocket, man, knocked off about about 20 seconds, about 15 seconds. Uh, I mean, which which just all makes more which all just shows that the rocket is just more efficient, you know? Well, I'm talking about staging. When it it it u at stage separation, it was going about it did so at about going about 600 miles an hour faster. It was a little lower, but it was going about 600 miles an hour faster. It was going about uh it did it about 15 seconds earlier.

[00:36:28]it it did the whole everything it needed to do and started moving about, you know, in probably about 3 seconds uh less time to do it. So, these are all like it's all good stuff.

[00:36:43]It's just like, you know, the stuff is like you have two seconds, you know, you have uh three steps forward and you take you end up going one step back, you know, but if you didn't take the if you didn't, you know, uh you wouldn't be getting any three steps forward unless you you took three steps forward, >> took the risk, >> right? Still a net positive gain, >> right? But, you know, but they had really kind of gotten all this stuff really under control with the other rocket. That's also the thing.

[00:37:17]>> Can I ask you a question?

[00:37:18]>> Go for it.

[00:37:19]>> Um, oh, >> because you said they're close. They're close to achieving something. SpaceX, >> right?

[00:37:26]>> And in my mind, >> in my mind, there are companies, there already are space companies sending stuff up there. Even people, >> yeah, >> I know I'm being ignorant here, but so far you following me. In my mind, there are space companies already sending stuff and people up there and even SpaceX. No, SpaceX is doing the same.

[00:37:42]>> So when you say they're close to achieving, help me understand this as a as a layman. When you are they close to achieving just slightly more efficiency or a paradigm shift in the space world.

[00:37:52]>> Oh, this is a paradigm shift.

[00:37:54]>> What do you paradigm shift? Is just that. Help me understand.

[00:37:57]>> They're trying to make this rocket totally reusable. Okay. So, you know, instead of they re, you know, they're able to refurbish, I guess, the the space shuttle, but it costs a billion dollars to refurbish it. It's ridiculous. So, we're talking about you're trying to make this rocket where it's refurbishable like it just comes back to you see how it comes back to the launch mount basically and lands. I've seen that. Okay. It's caught out. crazy thing that >> right it's caught out of the air literally and so it's caught out of the air at the launch mount they put it back on the launch mount fuel it up like a like an airplane and then it's ready to go again you know they go and put another second stage on top and boom let's say it's ready to go in hours or maybe even days let's say >> and not a billion dollar refurbish >> right not a billion dollar refurbish not making not a you know not a hundred not a $200 million remake you know the rocket it's just like like a plane >> the same rocket refuel it >> right same rocket refuel it exactly >> so when you say they're like working hard they're just they're they're on around the corner of this breakthrough you're not talking about like okay a little bit more efficiency it's going to be maybe a new space world they're working hard and that they're >> right >> saying you know we're really close to like a amazing scientific advancement, >> right? This and you know, I hear some people talking about it that the rocket the rocket has not made it into orbit.

[00:39:35]You know, it's made it only into suborbit. This rocket could make it into orbit if they wanted to, but the fact that they're trying to make it uh come in to they're making it in in a such a way that it's going to come back.

[00:39:52]uh they're basically making it in a way where it'll it can come back, but you don't want something like that coming back over, you know, over a city or something like that because it could basically land in pieces over on the right. So, they're trying to make it not fail.

[00:40:13]They're trying to test it out to where they're pretty certain that they've gotten rid of all the the easy failures before they just come and bring it back.

[00:40:25]But it's close. It's pretty darn close.

[00:40:27]>> With such a big advancement around the corner, what would the world look like in your I guess what's this incoming world maybe? What might this incoming world look like in your opinion?

[00:40:40]>> I don't know, man. That's an interesting question there.

[00:40:44]>> Yeah.

[00:40:45]>> I mean, um I think I I just think, you know, uh you're going to have to give it some time. It's like, you know, the Falcon 9, we have this this rocket that goes to space all all the time and the first stages are always reused and it's like no big thing now, right? You know how I mean. You don't even >> I've heard of the Falcon 9, >> right? the Falcon 9 that that's that SpaceX rocket that's always coming back and landing.

[00:41:10]>> And we could do that easy peasy now.

[00:41:12]>> Yeah, they could do it easy peasy.

[00:41:14]Nobody else is doing it too easy peasy.

[00:41:16]I think Blue Origin now has one and that's it. And it's been doing this for 10 years, you know, finally we have some some competition finally just about to pop up. Um but uh you know it'll take a while for this to to really get going, but once it gets going, man, um they'll be able to put stuff into space cheap.

[00:41:42]I mean, it's a it's a it's a big thing.

[00:41:45]>> So more stuff in space. That's at least for sure, right?

[00:41:47]>> In this incoming world, >> right? They I mean stuff is so expensive to put in space right now that they redesigned the whole thing to put it in space. You know, it's like if they didn't if things were if it was cheaper to put stuff into space, then they could put heavier stuff into space and they wouldn't have to redesign the whole thing just to put it into space, you know? They wouldn't have to go and take it's like uh I don't know excavator.

[00:42:13]They could actually put an excavator on a rocket and put it into space and redesign only half of it. You know, they could use the same frame and all the the same basic stuff.

[00:42:24]>> Whereas whereas right now they'll sit there and they'll have to redesign every darn thing on the whole. It'll have to be totally different. They'll make it out of aluminum, the most highgrade aluminum and titanium and make it absolutely as light as absolutely possible. And they'll do that because they'll do that because uh um it's so expensive to I forgot something like $1,000 or $10,000 a kilogram to put put stuff in into space right now. I mean, it's really expensive to put stuff into space. Um, so it's so expensive that it it's better to basically redesign everything from the ground up uh to to make set it up so for going into space. But once once this rocket is going, man, I mean, they could actually make big stuff in space. They can actually make a space hotel.

[00:43:25]>> Space hotels. Okay.

[00:43:27]>> Space hotels. Big space station. you know, you can actually go and and put it a big space station that takes, I don't know, 100 and 150, you know, launches to put all the stuff up there. You know what I mean? And they could build it up in in space. Stuff like this is actually suddenly becomes possible.

[00:43:46]>> Wow. What What would that world look like for people here down here?

[00:43:50]>> I don't know.

[00:43:51]>> Well, that might change. Do you think we'll be able to like travel faster?

[00:43:55]>> I mean, you know what what's happening right now is we have AI you know, and we have all this robotic stuff. Uh, that plus plus we got the rocket stuff going at the same time.

[00:44:07]>> Oh, yeah. We're not going to work anymore, >> right? We're not going to work anymore supposedly.

[00:44:12]>> I mean, it's like makes you wonder how is this all going to play out? I really don't know. It kind of makes it hard to figure.

[00:44:20]>> I think about that a lot.

[00:44:22]>> Yeah. And then we're we're kind of kind of selfdestructing at the same time to add to the whole thing.

[00:44:33]>> Fascinating.

[00:44:34]>> Fascinating.

[00:44:36]>> You're not going to live in the space hotels.

[00:44:38]>> I don't know.

[00:44:40]>> We'll see.

[00:44:41]>> With the gravel or are you going to be in the with the gravel class down here >> while Jesse goes with the Excelsites up into space?

[00:44:50]>> Excelsites. Oh man, the rich people are going to be going and living in space, huh?

[00:44:57]They're going to be like uh what's that movie where they had like a space station, big space station in space.

[00:45:02]Everybody was living, you all the rich people were living up there and on the ground everything was basically hell.

[00:45:08]>> Wall-ally, >> I can't remember.

[00:45:09]>> Talk about Wall-E.

[00:45:10]>> It might have been. I'm trying to think.

[00:45:11]>> That movie's awesome.

[00:45:13]>> You're talking about the the cartoon, right? It's a robot cleaning up the earth and and all the humans are living in a spaceship and they're all fat.

[00:45:20]>> No. Oh, I wasn't thinking of that one.

[00:45:24]>> Oh, what was it called? I don't know.

[00:45:26]There's been a bunch of them that kind of similar similar thought, you know.

[00:45:34]All right. What's the gez wish would stop doing that? I got my own problems here.

[00:45:50]All right. Uh, okay. We can go to the next one. I guess ch China is sending off one there.

[00:46:01]Oh, okay. China's just doing I don't know if we want to go into this.

[00:46:07]Uh, China's just doing one of their doing one of their things. China does a lot of space stuff, too, folks. They like got uh they have their own space station and uh just recently they were sending some people up to the space station uh their their next uh set of I think they're called taken but their sh their set of astronauts and uh let's go to the moon base.

[00:46:37]NASA unveils plans for base on the moon.

[00:46:52]Yes, producer.

[00:47:07]What's up, producer?

[00:47:11]>> You can't get it to work, producer.

[00:47:13]>> I think he's saying it's not here.

[00:47:15]>> Oh, it's not there.

[00:47:17]>> Oh, my bad.

[00:47:22]>> Uh, producer. Oh, well, we can just keep on chitchatting about about the ch the Chinese astronauts.

[00:47:33]Uh, China launches manned spaceship on mission to orbit space station.

[00:47:50]Huh? You said what?

[00:47:56]I mean, I guess it would be going to the space station, not manning it. Um, who's gone?

[00:48:05]>> I don't know what's up with him. What's up with our producer?

[00:48:12]>> Talk to me. Talk to me, May.

[00:48:14]Check the chat. Check the chat, Bill.

[00:48:20]>> Oh my gosh, man.

[00:48:27]Anyway, uh NASA had some plans for u for a base on the moon and somehow these this is not playing.

[00:48:44]I don't know. I guess I'd have to look it up. Maybe we could look it up.

[00:48:53]look it up live.

[00:49:02]H anyway, I heard that.

[00:49:06]Uh I don't know what uh to make of it. By the way folks, you can call in number is 8887753773 7753773 and we could talk about you know whatever you want to talk about right now today whatever's whatever is good.

[00:49:36]Uh uh you can also uh you can also send us super chats if you're so as so willing and uh oh okay that's interesting.

[00:49:58]Um, let's just uh Well, heck, you know, Nick and I were talking about some stuff earlier before this show. Nick's been getting into uh >> black holes.

[00:50:17]>> Black holes and all that.

[00:50:18]>> I mean, they're pretty cool. I didn't know that. We didn't know I didn't know that we I didn't know that people doubted their existence until like not that long ago.

[00:50:27]Yeah, they they've been, you know, figuring there'd be something to stop things from falling into infinite density, you know. Um, but >> and then we found one.

[00:50:44]>> Yeah. We found we found one we found one in the in the at the center of the Milky Way, >> you know. Uh or we found one in other places where there's just some star, you know, going around nothing.

[00:51:00]>> I'm just imagine that moment.

[00:51:01]>> It's so big, you know, that there's nothing else it can be except for a black hole. Um, but you know, they don't Well, I remember a long time I read uh my grandfather gave me a book.

[00:51:18]Oh, >> okay.

[00:51:22]>> You said what?

[00:51:25]>> Uh, I remember a long time ago my my grandfather gave me a book uh what is it? A brief history of time by Stephen Hawking. This is like when when I was like 13 or 14 or something like that and I remember reading that book and they had this he had this concept of things a black hole would fall to infinite density.

[00:51:48]So we're talking like the whole sun or something like that whatever becomes a black hole it becomes like smaller than you could imagine. You know, it'll it'll all of it can fit on the the end of a a a pin maybe like the whole sun or something like that can be infinitely dense.

[00:52:12]>> I don't even get that.

[00:52:13]>> I know. I don't I didn't get it there either, which which it didn't kind of make sense to me how it would get that dense. Uh one of the principles that that you've also learn about is that how time slows down. So, and the smaller things get, time just slows down, you know, where as as things get smaller. So, you know, once you get like a whole star, uh, you know, there's there's already like a black hole, like a whole star, a star 1.5 times the size of the sun.

[00:52:48]Okay, that whole star can condense down to what they call a neutron star is only like 10 miles across. Can you imagine like the whole sun 10 miles across? How much gravity it would have? How ridiculous that is in itself?

[00:53:06]>> Can you even imagine it, >> right? Okay. So, that's a neutron star.

[00:53:11]That's already like absolutely ridiculous. Okay. For what it is.

[00:53:17]>> Okay. Then you take a black hole. They take and and punch that down even smaller than than a neutron star. Let's say it's maybe a mile across or something like that. They'll have it'll be a black hole at that point. Okay.

[00:53:34]A whole star, the sun, a mile across >> into a point of I heard it's into a point of zero space.

[00:53:42]>> Okay. But the way we're talking about >> which is absurd, >> right? Yeah. But we're talking about we're just talking about their event horizon. I don't remember what the event horizon would be for for the sun for instance, but the sun the sun is like 300 350,000 tons something like that. Ridiculous.

[00:54:04]350,000 times the mass of the Earth.

[00:54:08]It's like over a million times bigger.

[00:54:10]And then it gets crunched down to like um like 10 miles across, something like that. I it just sounds like it sounds like unreal how you know the physics of all this stuff just sounds unreal. It just sounds ridiculous actually.

[00:54:26]And then within a black hole okay the whole thing can be they didn't you know when they measure a black hole its size they they measure its what they call event horizon you know where where basically if you fall into beyond this point nothing comes back including light light can't even get get out of it. So but they don't know what's what's beyond that point because light never escapes. So they don't know how small it becomes after that point.

[00:54:59]Um I'm just imagining that moment. They're like they're like looking at their equations. They're punching in some numbers. They're like, "Whoa, if we punched in these numbers, we get >> infinite density, etc. This is absurd.

[00:55:12]Nothing like this could ever happen, guys. They're looking through a telescope and they see one. It's probably like finding a monster."

[00:55:17]>> Yeah. I mean, they just figure figure, well, we're missing something, you know?

[00:55:25]And I think that's what they're uh I think that's what they're they're really talking, you know, that's what they're really thinking about. You know, they're they just they don't know everything. You know, anybody who's real knows they don't know everything. So, they're just figuring, okay, there's something we're missing here.

[00:55:43]>> It's like finding the monster under the bed. It's like, whoa, it actually exists.

[00:55:46]>> I mean, you know, okay. Yeah. You know, I've said it like this. I mean, okay, the you you scrunched the sun down to the whole sun. Okay, that's 300,000 times 300,000 300,000 plus times bigger than the Earth. You scrunch it down to like I don't know, it's about this big. Okay, what's what's the time dilation on the surface of uh of the sun when it's this big?

[00:56:13]And anybody give me the number?

[00:56:15]>> You'll find that there is no number because nobody knows because all their equations just all break down at that point.

[00:56:23]>> Anyway, >> I don't even get it. Incredible.

[00:56:27]>> Ah, come on. Don't you get it?

[00:56:30]>> Abstractly.

[00:56:32]Oh, come on. You get it?

[00:56:36]Something's all right.

[00:56:41]All right. We got Michael in Canada about he's talking about the seriousness of seriousness of space.

[00:56:58]>> What's up, Dave?

[00:56:58]>> Hey.

[00:56:59]>> Hey, James. Oh, we got James in here, too. Interesting.

[00:57:04]>> Getting serious.

[00:57:05]>> All right. I know. All right. I'm gonna take this caller.

[00:57:12]Michael.

[00:57:14]Michael, this is Punchy TV.

[00:57:18]>> Yeah. What's up, Bill?

[00:57:20]>> Hey, Michael. What you uh what you got to say today?

[00:57:27]>> Uh yeah, you know, it's just a comment and maybe I'm just ignorant, but you know, I'm not a space denier and all these things. You know, I don't really care. But you know when I was young I see a docu I saw a documentary about people training to go to space like astronauts.

[00:57:48]>> Yeah.

[00:57:48]>> And uh it seems like it was very hard like the geforce and all these things like people were fainting fainting and almost dying.

[00:58:00]And now we see like people like Katy Perry going to space like did she need a a training or something to go there or >> it's not that.

[00:58:12]>> I don't know man.

[00:58:12]>> It's I mean a lot of the training is like for >> uh a lot of training is just because they have to know how they have to because there's nobody to help you, you know, if something goes wrong in space. I mean, they have ground support, but you have to know how all the the systems work.

[00:58:33]There's a lot of systems. Everything's custom.

[00:58:37]Uh, and they're basically trained for how to deal with uh things when when things go wrong. Um, a lot of it has to do with that. It's not um uh or let's say the the rockets sometimes they have high gforce, but I think that the I mean the latest rockets they have maybe two G's is the maximum G-force you run into when you're coming back from space. Uh it's not like fainting.

[00:59:12]>> Uh so two two G's is not going to make you faint.

[00:59:17]>> All right. Okay. But but you know there's been times when things have gone wrong when these rockets have come back and people were you know uh I don't know maybe the rocket starts spinning or something went wrong and you know people uh people faced uh you know major things that uh went wrong but I don't think it's uh it's not as as perilous as you're maybe they're they're giving you the impression it Yeah. Yeah. And maybe, you know, Katy Perry wasn't an astronaut, per se. There were maybe a team with her to >> I mean, >> control these things, >> right? I mean, they all just go and jump in. They go and uh they probably have a little bit of training, but they all were basically passengers. They all jump in this that rocket.

[01:00:07]>> Uh they all go up into space straight up and then they come all the way straight down. There's nothing they can do.

[01:00:14]There's no systems for them to deal with. They're not flying it back. It's all like on auto.

[01:00:19]>> Exactly.

[01:00:19]>> Yeah. So, >> and when does this SpaceX launch happen?

[01:00:24]>> Well, I mean, there was one on um uh these are test flights and there's been a lot of them at this point. That was flight >> but the one we seen on the show right now. Yeah, that was that was on Friday >> because man, I don't know how when I gotta check back, but man, I was riding on the road and I saw like a big like a a freaking missile, man, in the sky, like bigger than the stars, man. And yeah. Yeah, I was I was amazed, man. I never seen things like that, man.

[01:00:56]>> I don't think you were seeing this one.

[01:01:00]>> Yeah. I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. You know, I'm just asking.

[01:01:04]>> No. Yeah, I don't think you were seeing this one. Uh, >> okay.

[01:01:11]>> Anyway, >> go ahead.

[01:01:12]>> No, I was just saying I don't think you were seeing this one. Um, >> all right.

[01:01:17]>> All right, man. Uh, yeah, that's uh >> Have a nice rest of y'all days, boy.

[01:01:24]And, uh, bye, Nick.

[01:01:27]>> Bye.

[01:01:28]>> I'm out.

[01:01:29]>> All right. Don't say that word, kids.

[01:01:34]All right, we got one super chat.

[01:01:36]>> It's just tabernacle. That's a Christian thing.

[01:01:39]>> Carvers.

[01:01:42]>> Carver says with a super chat on Punchy TV YouTube pu n h i e. NASA going to paint all over the zi and call it our moon base.

[01:01:54]What? That's what I thought. So instead of Nazi moon base, it'll be they're going to paint over the ZI and make it NASA NASA moon base. They're going to they're going to co-opt the Nazi moon base and call it a NASA moon base.

[01:02:15]>> You may not be familiar with it.

[01:02:17]>> I just realized theory. It all came together, >> right?

[01:02:21]>> All right.

[01:02:22]>> Don't you know the Nazis have a moon base on the moon? Bill, I thought you knew about space.

[01:02:28]Oh man, thank you Carver.

[01:02:33]All right. Where the heck did that come from?

[01:02:39]Anyway, uh I think that's it, folks.

[01:02:46]I gotta thank uh Nick for hanging around here and uh chitchatting about all this stuff.

[01:02:54]got anything to add, Nick, about black holes?

[01:02:58]>> Um, nothing I can really put forth in the little time we have. Oh, >> but I wanted to ask you about like religion and science. Maybe another time.

[01:03:09]>> Religion and science.

[01:03:09]>> Yeah. Some people think it's like totally separate like all this space stuff took you away from God.

[01:03:15]>> And there was something connected to black holes and the age of the universe.

[01:03:19]And I was wondering what you I mean, it seems like the there's this old old universe and then at the end humans show up like that makes that's pretty amazing. It's almost fantastical.

[01:03:31]>> Uh right here at the end. Yeah, we'll have to get it to >> Well, they never they haven't found any, you know, they're looking around all the over the place to see if they find some some uh indications of some other uh advanced beings, but there's no there's no uh there's no indication of anything anywhere so far.

[01:03:56]We look like we look like we're rare.

[01:03:59]I have questions about aliens for you next time. Maybe if you invite me back.

[01:04:03]>> I don't think there are any aliens.

[01:04:05]>> I mean, there may be no aliens within the whole like within a hundred million light years within like like like a billion light years. Maybe there's no no uh no advanced civilization other than ours. I mean, it could be something ridiculous like that.

[01:04:24]>> It's all for us.

[01:04:25]>> Okay, I'm done. I'm done.

[01:04:27]>> But there there's there's There's definitely like I would say there's definitely something out somebody else out there. They're just way way way too far away.

[01:04:37]Anyway, uh I think that's it.

[01:04:44]All right, I'll see you folks. Goodbye.

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