What is your sleeping hack? Your way to cure insomnia?

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[00:00:24]>> Wake up with a bang.

[00:00:26]>> HEY, WAKE UP. Anel and the club >> on 947 >> right now. If it's the one thing that is in common for all of us, it is the common thread is all of us need to sleep.

[00:00:38]>> Yeah.

[00:00:38]>> And I don't, you know, I don't get people like, "Yeah, no, I don't sleep. I operate on no sleep." That's not a flex, Jared.

[00:00:44]>> No, it's not a flex.

[00:00:46]>> Not sleeping is not the flex you think it is. Sleep is vital for me in the what in the Maslo's hierarchy of needs. Is that what it's called?

[00:00:56]The triangle >> that guy.

[00:00:58]>> Yeah.

[00:00:58]>> Sleep is the most important thing.

[00:01:01]Nothing gets done if I'm not sleeping.

[00:01:03]>> Yeah. It's what is it? Sleep, food, and then the rest of your life. Is that how it works?

[00:01:06]>> Keep drink water.

[00:01:07]>> Okay.

[00:01:08]>> You know, I really think water's >> You are well hydrated.

[00:01:11]>> People like, "Oh, I don't drink water."

[00:01:13]Margaret, that is not a flex, mate.

[00:01:15]>> It's not a flex.

[00:01:17]>> But sleep more. Just sleep. What do you do? Do you ever struggle to sleep?

[00:01:22]>> Um, no. Generally, I'm very lucky with this because I sleep quite easily. Not as easily as you sleep. I I've seen you sleep and take naps. Uh you you take a 5minute nap in the middle of the president speech if you needed to. Where >> right >> and you somebody once looked at me said you sleep like you don't have problems.

[00:01:44]I said aha the thing is I know the problems are going to still be there when I wake up so I might as well be rested for all of it.

[00:01:50]>> Very clever. I I don't struggle to sleep, but I do I have become a little bit obsessive about tracking my sleep.

[00:01:55]I'll be honest with you. Um >> you literally have every device, right?

[00:01:58]>> And well, I've got my and my like little track of a device on my arm and then in the mornings it tells me whether I've had a good sleep or a bad sleep.

[00:02:06]>> And then do you have a pep talk with yourself if it says bad bad boy Frankie?

[00:02:10]It >> Yeah, I do because it goes both ways also cuz you get a score. So it's like out of a hundred and then I feel like I failed if if I get a bad score. Doesn't the pressure of now needing to get a good score keep you up?

[00:02:22]>> Yes, cuz that would stop me from sleeping.

[00:02:24]>> No, I but it does. I sit in the evenings watching some TV or whatever and then I'm like, "Okay, go to bed now.

[00:02:30]Otherwise, you won't have a good sleep score tomorrow."

[00:02:32]>> Do you know how what I hate and I know it's a bad night when you start you count you look at the time and you go, "So, if I fall asleep in the next 30 minutes, >> I'll get this much done."

[00:02:42]>> 1 2 3 Oh, that's 4 hours.

[00:02:46]What is your foolproof plan to falling asleep?

[00:02:50]>> Yeah, if you start >> Everybody's got one. Some people say you must warm um milk up and put honey and turmeric in.

[00:02:56]>> It works.

[00:02:57]>> Does it?

[00:02:58]>> Really? Yes, it does work. No, >> it's like a hug from the inside. I don't know about the turmeric, >> but the the milk and honey.

[00:03:03]>> Milk and honey works.

[00:03:05]>> E.

[00:03:06]>> I just told myself, Cindy, there's nothing left to see here.

[00:03:12]It's time to go to sleep, little girl.

[00:03:14]Otherwise, tomorrow everybody's going to feel your wrap.

[00:03:17]>> And then you sleep.

[00:03:17]>> And then I roll over and I put my hands under my little between my shoulder and my face and I go to sleep. I go, "It's time."

[00:03:24]>> So you fall asleep like in a praying position.

[00:03:26]>> I fall asleep like a little baby. Like you know, you know, you go, "That child's sleeping so peacefully in this picture. It must be AI. That's me."

[00:03:32]>> That's in a little basket.

[00:03:34]>> Good night, world. Everybody's got a plan. Everybody's got a trick.

[00:03:38]Everybody's got something they do when it's time to fall asleep and you believe it works. 0118838947.

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[00:03:55]>> Cuz if you have a good sleep, then obviously you increase your sleeping hours, >> which means that you what are you getting? 8 7 8 hours. What do you What What's the normal?

[00:04:04]>> Um >> 10 12.

[00:04:06]>> You're supposed to get >> I think Crawford said eight. Between 8 and 10. I can go 12.

[00:04:12]>> Really? I can't sleep beyond five and a half hours at a time. You know, >> you you have a problem. You better see a doctor about that.

[00:04:20]>> I'm telling you now, it's not normal, guys. You must sleep.

[00:04:23]>> Magnesium helps as well. Really, >> apparently.

[00:04:26]>> It does. It really, really does. I went to a reflexologist who gave me this really nice mix of tissue salts, but didn't tell me what was in them, and I slept like a baby.

[00:04:36]>> Where do you put the salt?

[00:04:37]>> Hi. No, it's it's tissue salt. You take it in your mouth like a It dissolves, but there was a lot of magnesium in it.

[00:04:43]A lot. You better give me the call's number. 0118838947.

[00:04:48]I'm looking for all the plans. What is your fool foolproof plan?

[00:04:52]>> Yeah.

[00:04:53]>> To falling asleep and give us like I do this and I'm and and I'm gone within 5 minutes, gone within 10 minutes. I I need timelines as well.

[00:05:00]>> Yeah. if I don't have that, if I don't have this, if if that doesn't happen, >> or even things like you mustn't eat after 8, otherwise your body's digesting, so the blood is going to your stomach and not to your head, and you need your head to sleep. All of those things, all of the even if it's not like scientific, it's just your plan.

[00:05:15]>> Yeah, it's your plan.

[00:05:16]>> We want your plan right now.

[00:05:18]>> I have basically tried everything and 3:00 in the morning, I'm wide awake.

[00:05:24]>> I really struggle to fall asleep at night. So, what I do is I listen to sleep stories. I usually put on um a series that I've watched multiple times before. So either like a Gossip Girl or Big Bang Theory, something that doesn't require a lot of attention and then I can fall asleep so nicely.

[00:05:43]>> Wine. Wine. That's the only thing that helps me to fall asleep.

[00:05:48]>> I can't do wine because I'll be like, "No, but I finished a bottle." And then the part the plane is taking off now.

[00:05:56]>> I'm like, "There's no way I can sleep.

[00:05:58]I'm feeling 3:00 a.m.

[00:06:01]This is a great time to call everyone and tell them I love them. Frankie, what you doing?

[00:06:06]>> I just want to stop doom scrolling, guys.

[00:06:10]>> Yes. I always Because this doom. So you on your phone before you sleep. And you know what always happens? I'll always find that one post that takes me down a rabbit hole cuz now I'm like, "Oh, I don't know this dead person." But how did they perish? Oh dear. Let me go to their cousin's page and see are there details there. Don't know him, but now here I am and I'm invested in the story.

[00:06:33]>> Do you do this across a platform? So Twitter could take you to Tik Tok to take you to Instagram.

[00:06:37]>> So where's Facebook?

[00:06:39]>> Oh >> yeah. Shame.

[00:06:41]>> Yeah, >> you are 80 years old. You are absolutely 80 years old.

[00:06:45]>> Thank you, Margaret.

[00:06:46]>> Leon in Benoni. What's your foolproof plan to falling asleep?

[00:06:49]>> Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:06:52]>> Morning. Um, Frankie. Yeah.

[00:06:54]>> So, I'm going to correct everyone there.

[00:06:56]Don't listen to anything with words in it. Nothing like that. No series because like especially Big Bang Theory, you've got that laughing. So, you hear the talking, the laughing wakes you up. And that um ASMR sounds specifically a hair dryer.

[00:07:11]>> So, go search YouTube. Yeah. But the haird dryer specifically, it's just the most soothing soothing sound. Um when I was a baby, my mom, you know, in the 80s ladies with the big hair, she used to have me on her lap um while she was doing her hair. And that was like the most relaxing, most comforting sound.

[00:07:30]And I find that works because I wake up between 1 and 3:00 every single morning, go out, have a cigarette, go back to bed, and then when it comes to like 5:00, when I got to wake up, I'm dead.

[00:07:41]>> It was her lap because I have two teenage daughters, and if they blow dry their hair after 9:00 at night, I lose my mind. I'm trying to stab you in your hair.

[00:07:52]>> Cindy's just an angry porter. That's why >> Leon, we didn't come here to attack each other.

[00:07:59]>> Not really.

[00:08:00]>> But ASMR sounds do work. I >> the haird dryer. And >> for example, my thing is there's a a woman, don't ask me how I landed on this on YouTube, some Victoria lady in the UK. So she does like >> kinesiology, whatever, whatever stuff.

[00:08:15]So people come in, she basically like massages you. Then they're using a little stone that they believe is treating something to do with your hearing and your heart. I don't I don't understand the science, but just the sound of it helps you fall asleep.

[00:08:30]>> But that ASMR, isn't it the one where they're like frying bacon and stuff?

[00:08:33]>> Yeah, that's not the one.

[00:08:34]>> Different sounds. Yeah, different sounds. You don't want to go for the frying bacon sound >> because then I get hungry, then I go to the kitchen. Nobody you get a whole bunch of these sleep apps where they play sounds like whale sounds or ocean sounds or so just to calm you down.

[00:08:46]>> Always like that whale sounds like it's in distress.

[00:08:48]>> Yes.

[00:08:49]>> I fell asleep the other day to someone getting acupuncture.

[00:08:52]>> How's that going to like make you sleep?

[00:08:54]>> It's the sound of the ocean.

[00:08:55]>> I'm going to try all of these things by the way. Barry, you in four ways. Talk to us.

[00:09:00]>> The answer to all answers is a Formula 1 race.

[00:09:04]>> No.

[00:09:05]>> Absolutely.

[00:09:06]>> No. I love Formula 1, but that section after the excitement of the start's gone before the pit stops and the car is going just let the couch swallow you.

[00:09:17]>> That's how you take a Sunday afternoon napkutely.

[00:09:21]>> Don't you always nap through Formula 1.

[00:09:23]>> Oh, it's the mo because exactly like Barry says, it's you start, you see the >> the excitement of the first corner and you hear them go and then it's like still in the lead. Orlando Norris is still in the lead. He's been in the lead for 35 laps now.

[00:09:37]>> And then at the end, >> used to be >> Kimmy takes Bahar.

[00:09:41]>> Yeah. Then they get so excited at the end, Barry. And that will wake you up from your nap. So you get a nice hour, hour, 15, 20 minutes there. You know, you saw the beginning, you saw the end was banking. So Barry, just to be clear, you do like the sport Formula 1. Hey, >> I do. I do love Formula 1, but it's just >> And Barry, you know what the thing is also? It's tough cuz it's always on a Sunday afternoon and it's after you've had a nice lunch and it's, you know, it just it's tough to stay awake during that thing.

[00:10:11]>> Exactly.

[00:10:12]>> I I don't think Max Vappen is going to be happy about this call, guys. That the fact that you guys say his his entire passion, his entire being makes people fall asleep.

[00:10:23]>> Max Vstafen isn't happy at the moment anyway.

[00:10:25]>> Yeah, he even he's bored.

[00:10:26]>> Even he's bored.

[00:10:27]>> Even he's falling asleep, >> guys. Turning 40 is the trick. I don't know if it's perry menopause or what.

[00:10:34]Guys, even the kids are like, "Mom, do not enter the bed before you help us with your homework."

[00:10:41]>> I just go to Google and uh look for rain sounds, rain with thunder, you know, that that will definitely put me to sleep.

[00:10:51]>> What I found helps me when I'm sleeping is making sure that if I'm scrolling on my phone that the brightness is low. You don't want to expose your eyes to the brightness of the sun.

[00:11:03]>> Uh, as for me, um, I just think of my ex, then I get depressed, >> then I'll fall asleep. Yeah. Whenever I think about it, I fall asleep.

[00:11:12]>> Wow, dude.

[00:11:13]>> Foolproof plan.

[00:11:14]>> Sorry, man.

[00:11:15]>> Foolproof plan. I tell you now, the lady who said turning 40, she's right as well because I used to be able to I could sleep at midnight, but yo, by 9:00 p.m.

[00:11:24]I'm fighting for my life. Eh, >> yeah. Yeah.

[00:11:27]>> And and true to form if I even go to my room and I get in bed.

[00:11:31]>> That's it.

[00:11:32]>> I I could be halfway in a conversation with you. Gone. Munin Bryanston, welcome back to Anub.

[00:11:39]>> Morning, guys. How are you? Good morning.

[00:11:40]>> Great. You say you are the national CEO of Falling Asleep.

[00:11:45]>> Yeah. So, eat we eat at 6 shop.

[00:11:48]>> Uhhuh. uh so that you digest um properly and then when I go into bed I've got my electric blanket on.

[00:11:58]>> Okay.

[00:11:58]>> And that thing is a laabi h and then you've got and then I've got my laptop next to me every night. So I play National Geographics. There's this documentary about penguins or that lady that lady's voice knocks me out.

[00:12:14]>> I need to promise you I'm >> Where's the documentary? Can you guys please find the documentary about penguins, please?

[00:12:20]>> It's on It's on Disney.

[00:12:22]>> Uh you go National Geographics Penguins.

[00:12:26]>> You're good.

[00:12:26]>> Okay.

[00:12:26]>> So, eat early.

[00:12:28]>> Uh so that you digest properly. Have your electric blanket on. I promise you, >> you won't regret it. You'll be out till 5. See?

[00:12:38]>> Okay. I got to just check. Is it only the penguins? Is it only that lady with the penguins? It's not It's something else.

[00:12:44]>> For for me. For me.

[00:12:45]>> For you.

[00:12:46]for me.

[00:12:47]>> Do we have it?

[00:12:48]>> Oh, wait, wait. Stand by. I want to hear >> that sound.

[00:12:59]>> Listen to that.

[00:12:59]>> When does she talk?

[00:13:02]>> Eventually, she'll talk. By the time she talks, I'm 90% tiny little >> Oh, you see it's all the ice and the wind and the sea sounds that are getting you.

[00:13:14]>> Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

[00:13:17]>> What does she sound like? Does she come in and she go the penguin when it's in the Antarctic?

[00:13:22]>> Like, >> exactly. Like, imagine imagine somebody speaking about penguins.

[00:13:27]>> I can see why you're falling asleep.

[00:13:29]>> Yeah.

[00:13:30]>> Exactly.

[00:13:30]>> Cuz the key is as as a woman, you I I think she she talks to him like she's asking for money and that's what makes you fall ASLEEP >> in that tone.

[00:13:40]>> In that tone, right?

[00:13:42]>> I didn't say it. I voice he knows >> her.

[00:13:58]Can you hear it?

[00:13:59]>> Oh, she's soothing. Oh, she's on it.

[00:14:02]>> She sounds like she's brushing your back.

[00:14:04]>> That's so nice.

[00:14:05]>> Give me Give me her her cafe account number.

[00:14:11]101 35 867 2 >> and then you're just like I'm going to lose money and let me >> thank you Tuni. You're in the line to win that aura ring for Charlotte. You're in Midland. Good morning.

[00:14:30]>> Good morning.

[00:14:32]>> How are you Charlotte?

[00:14:34]>> Good. How are you?

[00:14:35]>> We're great. Talk to us. Foolproof plan to falling asleep.

[00:14:38]>> Listen, just work hard. be physically, mentally, emotionally tired. Sleep like a baby. Just work hard in life.

[00:14:45]>> Deplete yourself during the day so that you can sleep at night.

[00:14:50]>> Exactly. I mean, sleep is is is luxury.

[00:14:53]Problems are forever, but sleep is just for now, you know. So, you need to make sure that you get enough of it. And how you do that? You work hard.

[00:15:02]>> Don't you don't you don't you get so tired that you're over tired that you can't fall asleep sometimes. Charlotte, >> no. No. They can never overt tired for sleeping. Frankie, you can never be overt tired of sleeping.

[00:15:13]>> I I agree with you, Charlotte. I have never said I am so tired, yet I can't fall asleep.

[00:15:18]>> Exactly. When has that they're tired, I can't sleep. I'm tired. I want to sleep.

[00:15:24]I'm depressed. I want to sleep.

[00:15:26]Everything sleep. So, you see, everything must come to you so that you can sleep.

[00:15:31]>> In fact, >> even when I'm not tired, I want to fall asleep.

[00:15:35]>> Just have a quick nap. Just a quick I'm the person who takes who sleeps before the plane takes off. When those ladies are like your exit, what what what gone on Baba?

[00:15:45]>> Really?

[00:15:45]>> I've heard that thing once in my life and it's enough.

[00:15:48]>> Nothing beats Koreans. You just put the Koreans whether they are talking or you're just reading the subtitles, but it always works.

[00:15:58]>> Guys, the best way to fall asleep is to have a wife that's arguing with you.

[00:16:04]Just sleep. I'm sure most of the guys will agree that a little bit of personal time can knock you out. KO, >> I try and play Anna's music. Now, that does make me fall asleep eventually.

[00:16:24]>> That would just absolutely absolutely.

[00:16:27]We've got DH governing here, Discovery Vitality CEO. Desh, this is the first time you've come to our new building.

[00:16:33]We've been here for 3 years. I know. And I've heard such good things about the food.

[00:16:36]>> Yes, >> it's great to be here.

[00:16:38]>> Okay. I don't know if it would be vitality meals healthy.

[00:16:41]>> No, I don't think Vitality will sign off on the the bacon and cheese grillers.

[00:16:47]>> But what excites me the most is this new venture that Discovery Vitality is on because finally I can reach diamond status cuz this is how I'm going to get there. I'm going to sleep my way to diamond status. Tell us about it.

[00:16:58]Discovery now rewarding for sleeping properly. Yeah. So, u I mean, Neil, thanks for having us on the air. I think it's uh sleep is probably the most important health intervention that we're not taking seriously.

[00:17:10]>> Absolutely.

[00:17:11]>> So, it's it feels like I'm preaching to the convers here, but poor sleep like increases your risk of hypertension, cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, depression, obesity, everything. It's everything. So what we figured is if we could help South Africans sleep better, we can reduce their risk of death by 24%. We can reduce their risk of car accidents by 36%.

[00:17:36]>> Spoke to Rob a few weeks ago as so we've integrated across the whole system. So we said we should pay our members for sleeping >> sleeping properly.

[00:17:44]>> But I think the conversation really is and and this nice to have Desha to talk about this is what does it mean for good sleep? Because I think a lot of us go all right cool. We're counting sort of you're just counting. Did you sleep 8 hours? Did you sleep 6 hours? Is is that the measure of good sleep?

[00:18:00]>> So like like everything we get into, we got into physical activity or 30 years ago, nutrition 20 years ago.

[00:18:07]>> Now we've got the technology to measure sleep accurately and actually help determine what that means in general and what that means for you as an individual.

[00:18:15]>> Good sleep is all about a good routine around regular bedtime, >> 7 to 8 hours of sleep >> and good quality sleep. Remember, good quality, we're talking about at least 15% of that time needs to be REM, rapid eye movement sleep, and 15% deep sleep, cuz that's where your body restores, your mind replenishes, all of those good things happen in the REM and the deep sleep states. So 7 hours of sleep is good. Going to bed around the same time every night is good. And then getting good quality sleep.

[00:18:43]>> Yeah, cuz cuz I mean I nearly knows I'm obsessed with the sleep score of mine, right? Every I track it every single night.

[00:18:49]>> And now I've joined your friend. But now you've joined me, right, with this tracker because and what's so interesting is if you start doing this, you'll start realizing like D is saying where your faults lie, right? So you'll start seeing, oh, I'm not getting enough of that kind of sleep, which means my brain isn't doing XYZ.

[00:19:06]>> Yes. Cuz with the Aura Ring, it it lets you know your sleep and then your deep sleep. And like and now that I know that I have to get 15% of the deep sleep, basically where you die and you come back from the dead and then you wake up and you're fresh again. Right.

[00:19:20]>> Correct. So, and what you'll see is Aura's got a score. Garmin's got a score. Um, Apple's got a score, Samsung's, everyone's got a score, a sleep score. We've created the vitality sleep score. So, we use the data from whether you're using your Aura ring or your Samsung uh Apple or Garmin device.

[00:19:34]We we use their data and we've created the vitality sleep score cuz we've got health data from the last 34 years.

[00:19:40]We've live so we know which combination for Anel and for Frankie is right for you and will help reduce your health risk.

[00:19:47]>> Can can it be that specific? like is it like individually for me?

[00:19:51]>> Yes. So, so the the seven to eight hours, the one hour bedtime window, the 15% RAM, the 15% deep, those are across the population.

[00:20:00]>> Yeah.

[00:20:00]>> But we adjust your score based on your age, your gender, and any of your underlying clinical conditions >> and activity >> and physical activity limits because someone who's sleeping, someone who's who's actually less physically active needs higher quality sleep.

[00:20:16]How how cuz I've been wearing this ring now for the 3 days. How does it know when when I'm sleeping or just lying in bed?

[00:20:23]>> Cuz it said to me it's like, "No, you got it better at this time, but you f you fell asleep at that time. You fell asleep."

[00:20:28]>> And I said, "You stop spying on me."

[00:20:30]>> There's there's an efficiency measure in in these devices cuz it's it's measuring your your your activity, your respiratory rate, your body temperature, your your heart rate. So through all of that stuff, it knows that you're you're only fully asleep and that's your REM plus your deep plus your light sleep for about 85 80 to 90% of the hour of the hours you're spending in bed.

[00:20:52]>> Yeah. No, it knows because I mean I I I read in bed so I'll get into bed and read a book, right? And then fall asleep and the book drops on my face. That's when I wake up the first time. It tracks it. It will tell you, right? Uh but that's my routine and the my devices know. It knows. It can tell you, okay, you got into bed. Yeah.

[00:21:08]>> And I'll often check it. No, I did read for 20 minutes before I switched off the light cuz obviously it's tracking your heart rate etc etc. >> But this is amazing. So what kind of points do we get for our sleep rewards?

[00:21:21]>> So so what we're doing here now is like everything the most important thing is to develop a habit and a routine for sleeping is actually critical thing. So one of the things we've told members is set a bedtime alarm. Everyone sets a wake up alarm but set a bedtime alarm so you're actually starting to wind down in the evenings. Uh that's very important.

[00:21:36]So to create this routine, we calculate your sleep score, your vitality sleep score. We give you a sleep goal for the week and then there's a ring to close just like active rewards. Just like your exercise ring, you've now got a sleep ring. You every night you get a score and if you've had a great sleep, you'll you'll within five or six days you'll get to your you'll get to your goal and then you get discovery miles, you can get a coffee. So you sleep and then you get a coffee which >> I mean what balance stop it.

[00:22:01]>> Or you can or you can donate to a good cause. So like you can donate to one of our move to give causes. So all of those ways in which you can reward members and literally this is the first time anyone's ever paid people to sleep and so we're very excited about it. We're going to we're going to export this to our other 40 markets around the world now that we've taken it live in South Africa.

[00:22:17]>> That's great.

[00:22:17]>> And then this Dr. Matt Walker fellow who's here and what's he here to do?

[00:22:22]>> So I'm I'm I'm quite a nerd. So I was really excited. We've got Dr. Matthew Walker in the country at the moment. Uh Matt Walker wrote literally wrote the book on sleep. So uh 9 10 years ago he wrote the book why we sleep and a friend of mine a friend gave it to me about 6 years ago >> and I gave it to my chief clinical officer she was I was I found it compelling she was converted our acties and data scientists pulled our data and said yep we can save lives we can save millions of years if we help people sleep do we have the tech for it so we we've brought Matt Walker out so we're doing research with him he spoke to our discovery people yesterday we've got an external audience that he's speaking to today. He is phenomenal and he is blown away by what we're doing here and he wants to do more work with us to actually help people get better. He is a worldrenowned neuroscientist and the expert. He's been on Huberman. He's got his own podcast. He's been on the diary of a CEO. Um he's uh he is the guy on sleep.

[00:23:18]>> Okay.

[00:23:19]>> Very very lucky to have.

[00:23:20]>> This is fascinating. And like we said, from all of your tips that you sent through on 0118838947 or send us a voice note 08400947, whoever came through with the best hack for sleep is going to win themselves the Aura Ring 4.

[00:23:36]>> There's one person that stood out for us. Uh because penguins, are you there?

[00:23:44]>> Hi, guys.

[00:23:44]>> Are you asleep?

[00:23:45]>> Yeah, I'm I'm in bed. Oh, Junzy, the guys from Disney just messaged me. That show is called The Secrets of the Penguins.

[00:23:54]>> Yes.

[00:23:55]>> Yes. And thank you so much. Now that we know that it's your foolproof plan to falling asleep, the entire city loves it. My friends were messaging me saying, "Give him Tunzi the Aura ring. Just give him the ring." So, it's yours, buddy.

[00:24:05]Valued at 9,000 rand. It's yours.

[00:24:08]>> I really appreciate it.

[00:24:10]>> Yeah. So, now you can track your progress and we can see if your National Geographic show is actually helping or or hindering. Okay.

[00:24:18]>> Yeah. Thank you guys.

[00:24:20]>> Congrats.

[00:24:22]>> D, can you please go to Dr. Matthew Walker and play him? The secret lesson of penguins. And >> I'm going to tell him about the penguins. He's going to he's going to write a book on penguins.

[00:24:30]>> Forward by Tunzi. I really think this is the next partnership. Love it. Thank you so much for your time and and thank you for the step. this I think it's a step in a great direction where you guys are just like cornering every uh you know every area that could make us better people, healthier people, happier people, wealthier people.

[00:24:48]>> Yeah. I mean and and and I mean our core purpose is to make people healthier.

[00:24:52]Nutrition, screening, exercise. We've always had sleep is such a big lever to make people healthier. We can add millions of lives to South Africans if we can get them to sleep better.

[00:25:01]>> There we go. And if you want to check out one of these Aura Ring fours, where do we can you go to discovery and to the discovery website and download the discovery app to activate vitality sleep rewards and to start earning your coffees and and discovery miles.

[00:25:14]>> Amazing.

[00:25:15]>> And if if you ever you guys I mean I know when you know Tatiana Schumman goes through goes to the Olympics and she wins you know for for swimming and all of those things and then she's a discovery ambassador. If you're ever looking for a discovery ambassador for >> sleep you you know exactly where >> it will be the face of sleep for you.

[00:25:34]>> Thanks Adella. Thanks. I'll bring D as a as a as a partner. Say goodbye.

[00:25:41]>> Back to making your morning and the club.

[00:25:44]>> I love this show on 947.