Sheridan Advisory Plan Commission 06/18/26

[00:00:00]Turn your mic on.

[00:00:23]>> All right, you guys ready at 6:30?

[00:00:26]Good to go.

[00:00:30]>> [snorts] >> Good evening.

[00:00:34]>> Like to welcome everybody to the advisory plan commission meeting for the town of Sheridan for today, June 18th, 2026.

[00:00:41]Folks, we got all sorts of seats up here in the front row. Nobody nobody up here on this uh row of bites up front. So, feel welcome to join us.

[00:00:54]>> Uh we got a large crowd here tonight. Uh could I just ask that everyone please check your cell phones, make sure you are silent. Um we don't we don't uh we don't need to know if people are getting texts and phone calls during this meeting. We're going to focus on other stuff tonight.

[00:01:09]Thank you very much. Uh I'd like to start uh with the pledge of allegiance, please.

[00:01:18]I >> pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[00:01:36]>> Thank you everybody.

[00:01:38]May we have a roll call, please?

[00:01:43]>> Mr. Keenho, >> present.

[00:01:46]>> Mr. Fischer.

[00:01:50]>> Mr. Debainy >> here.

[00:01:52]>> Mr. Stern >> here. Miss Copkkey >> here.

[00:01:57]>> Mr. Meister >> here.

[00:02:00]>> Mr. Terry, we have a quorum.

[00:02:04]>> Thank you very much. First item on the agenda is approval of pre previous meeting minutes. Has everyone had a chance to review the minutes from April 16th, 2026?

[00:02:14]>> Make a motion we approve the minutes from April 6, April 16th.

[00:02:19]>> Second. Motion and a second to approve the meeting minutes uh as submitted. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. All those opposed.

[00:02:30]Minutes are approved.

[00:02:32]Next on the agenda is meeting announcements. Director Miller, any announcements?

[00:02:36]>> There are none from staff.

[00:02:38]>> Thank you very much.

[00:02:42]All right. First item on the agenda is a public hearing for 26 PUB-01 Davis Farms by LAR Homebuilders.

[00:02:50]Uh, first thing on the agenda, we're going to hear a report from staff.

[00:02:54]Director Millie, would you like to give us our report?

[00:03:01]>> Mr. Keen Holtz, could you please review the rules of procedure for this evening?

[00:03:09]>> Uh, prefer not to, but I don't guess I get a choice in that.

[00:03:23]The Sheridan Advisory Plan Commission is a seven member appointed volunteer body required by Indiana law for all communities that have zoning.

[00:03:32]The Advisory Plan Commission's role tonight is to hear the cases presented and either make a recommendation or decision based on the type of petition.

[00:03:41]First, staff will present a report with a recommendation after I read the rules.

[00:03:48]Commission members may ask questions at this time or any time during the meeting.

[00:03:53]Next, the applicant will make a presentation.

[00:03:56]It's the applicant's responsibility to prove to the commission that all requirements are met. Commission members may ask questions of the applicant during or after the presentation.

[00:04:08]Then the commission president will then open the public hearing, allowing the audience to speak. If you wish to speak, please sign up with your name and address on the sign-in sheet. There is one sheet per case being heard tonight.

[00:04:23]Comments must be pertinent to the request being heard and all your marks must be directed to the plan commission from the microphone.

[00:04:31]Comments made from the seats will not be recorded and you will be asked to leave the meeting by Director Miller.

[00:04:38]Commission members may ask questions of the public. After everyone on the list has had a chance to speak, the president will close the public hearing portion of the meeting and the audience may no longer speak.

[00:04:51]Following the closing of the hearing, the applicant may then be given time to address any additional issues that have been raised during the public hearing.

[00:05:00]Finally, commission members may further discuss the application and may also ask further questions before the president calls for a motion. which may include conditions of approval or recommendation and/or long-term recorded conditions called commitments.

[00:05:16]That motion from an advisory plan commission member shall be based on and shall reference compliance with the town's ordinance standards.

[00:05:25]Please conduct yourself with courtesy tonight at the town of Sheridan's advisory plan commission meeting. Thank you.

[00:05:40]Good evening. The petition before the advisory plan commission tonight is docket number 26 PUD01, the Davis Farms planned unit development. The petitioner is Lonar Homes presented by John Davositz of Nelson and Frankenberger LLC. The request is to reszone the property from AG1 Intensive Agriculture to the Davis Farms Planned Unit development district.

[00:06:04]The site is generally located between 216th and 226 streets between Mulebar Road and Leong roads. The property is currently used for agriculture and is approximately 240 acres according to the petition summary. While the project description references approximately 276 acres. The sacred discrepancy should be clarified as the petition moves moves forward.

[00:06:30]The petitioner, excuse me, the petition received its first reading at the May 12th, 2026 town council meeting. A neighborhood meeting was held on June 10th, 2026, and the summary is included as exhibit 4 in the plan commission's packet this evening. Tonight's meeting is the public hearing before the advisory plan commission. Notice was provided in accordance with Indiana law and the APC rules of procedure.

[00:07:00]The proposed PUB would allow a residential community with four lot types and multiple home elevations. The concept includes a mix of front load and rear load garage products, common open space, preserved woodland and wetland areas, and a central amenity area. The amenity package includes a clubhouse, swimming pools, splash pad, playground, pickle ball courts, basketball court, fire pits, and an open lawn area. The proposed ordinance allows up to 600 single family detached units while exhibit B indicates 582.

[00:07:38]Staff recommends that the petitioner clarify the intended maximum unit count so that the ordinance and exhibits are consistent. The comprehensive plan identifies this area for mixed density residential. That land use category supports a variety of housing types and densities with walkable connections, open space, and access to adjacent neighborhoods or public centers. Staff finds the proposal generally supports the comprehensive plan's goals for efficient growth, expanded housing options, and residential development that responds to future demands. The proposal also supports transportation and quality of life objectives by extending sidewalk and trail opportunities, preserving identified wetland areas, and incorporating rural design references such as orchard style plantings and amenity architecture. The site is not located within a comprehensive plan focus area.

[00:08:37]The future thoroughfare plan identifies the surrounding roads as a mix of major collectors, minor arterial and public, excuse me, and principal arterials.

[00:08:48]The development will accommodate the required six 60foot rightway for local internal streets. Acceleration and decelerations at subdivision entrances will be the developer's responsibility and must meet the town of Sheridan construction standards. Public water and sanitary service will be required and provided by Indiana American Water.

[00:09:11]Wells and septics will not serve the residential lots or a amenity center.

[00:09:16]Emergency equipment standards such as and including fire hydrants, knockboxes, and tornado sirens will also apply.

[00:09:25]The underlying zoning for the PUD is R2, residential small lot with modifications to lot standards, building standards, landscaping, fencing, and certain design requirements. The PUD includes four lot types with lot areas ranging from 4,000 square ft to 7,000 square ft and minimum widths ranging from 40 feet to 60 feet.

[00:09:47]Maximum building height is proposed at 35 ft. Several architectural standards exceed or refine in the UDO, excuse me. Several architectural standards exceed or refine the UDO standards, including prohibiting vinyl siding, requiring fiber cement or masonry, requiring dimensional shingles, increasing the primary roof pitch to 612, increasing roof overhangs, and requiring design features such as ridge lines, windows, address plaques, and garage door details. One area where the PUD reduces the UDO standard is streetscape diversity, allowing greater repetition of elevations and color packages.

[00:10:31]The PUD proposes approximately 36.9% open space, exceeding the 20% minimum open space standard set in the UDO.

[00:10:41]Common areas may shift as engineering is finalized, but the PUD establishes minimum open space and amenity expectations.

[00:10:50]Landscaping standards are modified in several areas. The PUD removes shrubs from external street frontage areas and substitutes additional evergreen trees.

[00:11:00]It also modifies architectural, excuse me, agricultural buffer standards by proposing a 30-foot buffer with trees and shrubs, but no BMS. Staff notes these modifications for APC consideration as part of the overall PUD review. Following the public hearing, the APC may send a positive recommendation to the town council with or without conditions, send a negative recommendation, send no recommendation, or table the item to the July 16th, 2026 APC meeting for a final recommendation.

[00:11:37]Any revisions may be incorporated as conditions on the APC's recommendation to town council. In summary, the Davis Farms PUD is a request to transition agricultural land to a planned residential development consistent with the comprehensive plans mixed density residential designation. The proposal includes a range of lot types, architectural commitments, open space amenities, and preservation of natural features. Staff recommends the APC hold the public hearing, receive public and commission comments, and determine the appropriate recommendation to town council after addressing the clarification items noted in the staff report. Thank you.

[00:12:20]>> Questions from the board for staff.

[00:12:24]>> Um [clears throat] I have one for director Miller. Um with the recent completion of the comp plan, how does this fit into the comprehensive plan? It is consistent with the future land use designation of mixed density residential.

[00:12:42]>> I have no further questions.

[00:12:44]>> Uh you referenced uh some number in the 30s for a percentage of open space uh for the neighborhood. I don't recall the specific percentage. Does that number include retention ponds in the calculation of percentage of space?

[00:12:57]>> That would be a question I would pose to the petitioner.

[00:13:08]the questions from the board for director Miller.

[00:13:11]>> I'm looking at the PUDS for the minimum building separations. It says the UDO is 16 ft.

[00:13:19]Um the minimum building separation 16 ft, but these are 12 ft.

[00:13:27]Am I missing something?

[00:13:29]>> I don't believe so. That is correct. The R2 district requires 16 ft. The PUD is proposing 12 ft.

[00:13:46]Any other questions from the board before we call the applicant up?

[00:13:54]Invite the applicant to take the podium.

[00:14:12]Can you put our slides on the overhead for us?

[00:14:22]>> Good evening. My name is John Doewoods.

[00:14:23]I'm a land use professional with the law firm and Frankenberger. Mr. To answer your question, the open space area is approximately 88 acres. That's the 36 and some odd change of open space proposed of the 88 acres. Uh just under 16 acres is uh ponds whereby the UDO if we follow the UDO would require 48 acres of open space. So we've got 40 on top of that 15 of which is is those ponds. The does include the pond provide their landscape in accordance with the ordinance which we will do but I wanted to answer your question directly before we begin.

[00:15:00]>> Thank you.

[00:15:30]My apologies for the technology issues.

[00:15:34]>> If necessary, we've got couple paper copies of the fish. There we go. Thank goodness.

[00:15:46]I may just have to ask you to advance slides if >> um if we just go down and use the up and down keys to advance and retract slides.

[00:16:02]Um we represent the applicant LAR Homes of Indiana. We're assisting LAR with their zoning review process here in Sheridan. Sean Blackburn is here tonight on behalf of the applicant as well as Jim Shanner, an attorney with our office and other members of our development team. Uh, as noted on the agenda and reviewed by staff, Lar has filed a reszone request in order to develop a unique, highly amenitized master plan residential community to be named Davis Farms. Uh, the Davis Farms proposal is to a reszone request of approximately 240 acres. The clarification there uh is that the larger acreage size includes a portion of the Davis property which isn't being included in the neighborhood. So there's a 40 acre parcel there that has frontage on 216th Street only four of which is being included. I can outline it for you as we go through the presentation. But that's the clarification on the site acreage.

[00:16:52]That parent tract is 40 acres. We're only using uh four of those acres.

[00:16:58]Um, I'd like to start by thanking uh Jennifer Miller and town staff for their guidance and assistance in reaching uh this point in the review process.

[00:17:07]>> Uh, if we advance to the second slide, Jennifer, thank you.

[00:17:11]>> Hi Your computer's too far away from the central unit here in the corner.

[00:17:53]>> [clears throat] >> It's a new room. We're still working out some bugs.

[00:18:10]>> A second.

[00:18:32]Somebody didn't silence their phone.

[00:18:37]>> Stand up. Who was it?

[00:18:40]>> We all want to know. We're all looking.

[00:19:10]So, what were they going to do with the 40 acres?

[00:19:25]If you're not going to put it in the development includ reason.

[00:19:48]>> So, is there a plan to separate that out?

[00:22:50]closer.

[00:23:51]Yes, sir.

[00:24:01]>> I'm not going to review our vision statement.

[00:24:04]However, it's important to homes for the community vision through place making in the form of amenities styles program into the community as we'll be seen in the following slides has three important components a couple of talked about one is the theme of the community the second is amenities and third is the reason this resrim discussed first desire is to honor the history of the land and the surrounding area nameal themes. Second in planning farms envision a highly amenized community that would provide a welcoming environment for the residents of all ages. Third is responsible for mentioned indicated on this slide. Although this is a large project parcel is chosen because it's in line with the mixed density res.

[00:25:14]Additionally, the land's located within the next years. Furthermore, I wanted to share that if the reason is approved by the town council, the site construction will start in late summer 27. So approximately a year from now construction, the first homes would be sold in the fall of 2028. Home will start in early construction is anticipated to last through the fall of 2034.

[00:25:51]Six years in terms of a building window and overall as you can see the subject property is located south of 26 down to 216 with street access.

[00:26:22]The community proposes four unique lot types with two different orientations.

[00:26:27]So you can see on the map there's identified in the maroon or dark red color on the screen of the home addressing alley. The reason for this is so that as you travel along 226 street you would see the fronts of homes rather than those streets. Additionally, the lot color at the rear of the home east of the community. This will help create a visually appealing entrance down as well as driving down street. The identified green tan make up the rest of the development and feature traditional style single family detached homes with garages on the front of the dwelling facing internal streets to the community. The green lots are the smaller of the two and the tan are slightly larger. As you can see on the plan, the tan lots are strategically placed on some of the most premier home sites running ponds, open space, tree stands, and trails.

[00:27:47]The overall plan layout places an emphasis on pedestrian connectivity and open space with over four miles of internal perimeter sidewalks and passphite and 80 acres of open space as a point of reference also described earlier in response to Mr. The requires 48 as noted.

[00:28:20]over 40 acres more than requities, preservation of existing areas as well as second.

[00:28:45]The two primary amenity areas are both at the north end of the development one to the north and east and then the primary element.

[00:28:59]This is a small pocket park which is surrounded by all four of the different types. It's located just south of the marine lots east of the main entrance.

[00:29:09]So what you can't see on the slide at the very top of that street at the top of the slide north of that are those marine lots with access to that street and then the internal pocket park which has all three four different lot types that's going to provide location to that space and then you can see a structure on that slide and that's for the purposes of mail delivery.

[00:29:38]Lots of different jurisdictions are now going to require what's called and you can stage these groups of more than eight and that's our desire so you don't have every eight across the development. It creates a spot for people to gather and utilize as the pocket park is 1.7 acres in size 18,000 size This next slide is our primary amenity area for our community. It's the heartbeat of Davis Farm.

[00:30:44]As you arrive off at 226 Street down the main, you'll see the fronts of homes on the ground on either side of the greeted by the Davis water feature, which I'll show you later in the presentation.

[00:30:58]Next, you'll see the yearround clubhouse, which is a minimum of 3500 ft, and features community space, restrooms, a gym area, and more. Just beyond the playground, you'll see a sport courts that featured seating. Additionally, you'll see a pond overlook area that features bench swings and seating with our linear lawn and stream lighting. Beyond that, the flanks is flanked by fire pits and orchard and orchard area. The area will have trees and maintain the orchard area.

[00:31:41]Additionally, the gray lines are connect area.

[00:32:02]This is the design for the clubhouse building.

[00:32:08]This is what you would be tower element.

[00:32:12]This is back side of that building includes a theme resort style swimming pool with the logo on the bottom area for children.

[00:32:28]Next, you'll see a playground area.

[00:32:35]I want to be specific. All these elements are elements that are reported into the ordinances.

[00:32:49]The planning office This is the seating area.

[00:33:04]It is important to note that these are not just ideas for this entrance.

[00:33:16]So 226 is the ground. This is the main entry boulevard.

[00:33:22]The slides show the main entrance off of 226. And I want to draw your attention to landscaping. The atmosphere here will be as if one is driving down an orchard with shorter flowering trees and multiple rows on each side of the street in the center.

[00:33:41]>> Excuse me, Mr. Davashitz. Could you please speak closer to the microphone?

[00:33:49]>> People can't hear you online.

[00:33:51]>> Yeah.

[00:34:00]In the distance you can see the water tower design element in the foreground on either side of the entry of our two.

[00:34:21]>> These are design features that will be along 26 and they name the water tower element is shown here again it's a community I would like to mention at this point that all the homes that you see in presentation materials are included in proposed beauty ordinance both in the form of character exhibits as well as architectural standards described in their presentation.

[00:35:02]As I go through the proposed product types, I wanted to states that vinyl sighting is prohibited and all homes feature masonary materials in the front facade. This first illustration lot types. Those lots are along road as well as 226 street. They range between 1500 2300 ft in area and have a base price approximately $340,000.

[00:35:29]The next lot style is type. I've got a couple slides to show you. These feature garages both integrated and the addition of the home and the base price here,000.

[00:35:46]This shows the integrated garage option show that garage.

[00:36:00]The next four slides are from type C which includes cornerstone product as well as postal product and they range between 1800 and 3300 ft in area of approximately 460 homes.

[00:36:38]series recessed garage as you see here recess focus on porches.

[00:37:00]The last prim,000 As I conclude, I want to thank everyone for this evening and everyone's interested in this regard neighborhood meeting last week.

[00:37:41]At this time, we shared plans who attended in an effort to better request As a side note, Dr. the next eight years with that addition question.

[00:38:37]>> [clears throat] >> We're going to next on the agenda is to open this to the public hearing. U the applicant will have an opportunity to come up for rebuttal later. Is there any questions from the board for the applicant before we open the public hearing?

[00:38:53]>> No.

[00:38:53]>> Thank you, sir.

[00:39:00]>> Okay. Okay, I'd like to open the public hearing at uh 7:08 p.m. I'm going to remind the audience that uh each participant has three minutes to speak.

[00:39:10]You're going to address the board from the podium.

[00:39:14]Uh and we ask that you keep your comments and and discourse civil.

[00:39:21]Public hearing is open.

[00:39:25]>> First person on our list is Mr. Wallace.

[00:39:30]Vance Wallace.

[00:39:47]I think I'm probably one of the oldest people. I have just one question. I think all of the the house the same distance and all they used to have in this town 16 ft 8 I think we did this years ago we set aside property had to be a good property the house 16 Matt V.

[00:40:50]>> Hello, my name is Matthew Long.

[00:40:54]Didn't just move here.

[00:40:56]generations been neighbors.

[00:41:05]So while I'm disappointed to see development coming while I'm disappointed I want to respect person trying to stop it is only going to give up control on this in this room and they need us that puts us in the driver's seat in our best We don't like too much traffic.

[00:42:04]They want to approve this plan, but it is all negotiable. You're in the driver's seat. And while it primary concerns are traffic, lighting, and services, utilities, we actually have a pretty good night around here.

[00:42:22]We're still 47 not just pointed out but not fully shaded or probleming traffic more signs won't People realize they need to actually stop at the stop sign, relax, caring about your neighbor, taking responsibility for yourself only forward to pursue the culture that we say we want for our town. Taking responsibility for yourself.

[00:43:13]My concern is that no cost infrastructure or utility existing resolutely cost us land and others successfully defeated this very surveyor that they couldn't I only mention this to say that it's usable traffic.

[00:44:07]>> Thank you. Thank you.

[00:44:12]Harry Milton.

[00:44:27]Thank you.

[00:44:32]I live in off 226.

[00:44:38]I'm all for But I want to know are we going to inter side of 226 and the east side of this development. Is that correct?

[00:45:19]Is there a plan that's going to be right there?

[00:45:37]I know people is going to be more traffic system.

[00:46:00]And then the last thing is the main entrance to this development. Is it right across the street?

[00:46:11]Are they sharing?

[00:46:16]I don't know.

[00:46:20]Because if they're at the same location, it'll be easier to control.

[00:46:33]My suggestion Thank you. That's all I have.

[00:46:41]>> Thank you, >> Ruth Gerbig.

[00:47:04]Beautiful.

[00:47:07]It's gorgeous.

[00:47:11]This is nice. This is really nice. But this is not But I don't think this is envisioning small town major concern about the roads falling every time in skyrocket with this we have plans in place.

[00:48:06]I question whether they just broke ground on the Yes, we don't know how to do ahead without knowing how we're doing at the same time.

[00:48:58]I would suggest also I see a vision every other city that's far more attitude of our area. And another concern pictures, but they show kids that slick beautiful market You don't step foot onto those working.

[00:50:18]So, are we setting ourselves up for trouble?

[00:50:37]Joe Archer.

[00:50:52]>> Thanks, man.

[00:50:54]Um, I'm Joe Archer. I'm with 226 Mu Barn. Um, my question goes to kind of what Matt touched on is obviously there's going to need to be utilities run to this thing because it's so massive. Uh, where are those utilities coming in and will those live living around there be forced to tie into those utilities to offset the cost? So, that's really all I've got.

[00:51:30]>> Philip Jackson.

[00:51:32]>> Hello, my name is Philip Jackson. Um, I moved here back in November of 2023. Um, I have several friends who are a part of Gen Z and we've been like struggling to try and find homes that we can buy. So, I support this this move to build more homes that people will buy and move into. But I second the one of the other gentleman's concerns about light pollution. That was something that moving from Indianapolis up to here in Sheridan, I really appreciate being able to see uh so many stars in the sky and I would love to see that preserved um both for my own family and for future generations. Um but overall, I support this move.

[00:52:10]>> I'll get this dialed in.

[00:52:13]>> My life's quest tonight. I didn't know we had the technical A team uh on standby.

[00:52:18]>> You got the Z team, brother.

[00:52:21]>> I'm trying. Is that better?

[00:52:24]>> Okay. All right.

[00:52:31]>> Elizabeth Brown.

[00:52:40]>> Good evening. My name is Elizabeth Brown and I apologize that I missed Tuesday's town meeting. I was judging at Indiana FFA state convention and was unable to attend. First, I wanted to be clear that I'm not against growth and I understand communities change. However, as one of the youngest people here, growth can bring opportunities. However, sorry, it's buzzing. However, I believe residents deserve clear answers before a project of this size moves forward. From what's being presented, Sheridan currently has a population of roughly 3,000 residents. With nearly 600 homes being proposed in this development, along with other developments that already approved or under construction are consideration, our population would potentially approach 6,000 residents over the course of the year. That is about three people per person or per household. My question is simple. What is the plan? What is Sheridan's long-term vision if our population doubles? What is the infrastructure plan to support this growth? How will our roads, water system, sewage system, police department, fire department, emergency services, and schools handle the significant increase in the population? I'd also like to clarify regarding the status of current and future developments many residents are confused about that have already been approved. what is considered and rather any conditions must be met before additional developments occur. I have heard from residents that previous development phases may have been tied to the complications of Maple Run. If that is not if that is true, can the town clarify those requirements and explain how many homes are expected when Maple Run is fully completed?

[00:54:23]I would also like to know whether the town has completely an impact study showing the developmental will affect schools, transportation, emergency service times, utilities, and taxpayers.

[00:54:36]If those studies exist, can they be available to the public?

[00:54:40]Many residents continue to ask questions about schools. I had the pleasure to speaking to Dr. Monday who and I understand there are might there is many unknowns regarding the future funding and enrollment. However, if Sheridan expresses significant population growth, what is the long-term plan for the Sheridan community schools? What will that look like for our teachers, our students, and taxpayers, especially during a time when the schools across Indiana are facing financial challenges and budget concerns.

[00:55:11]For many years, residents have been asking for grocery stores and additional shopping opportunities.

[00:55:17]And for our population, what is the town's economic development plan? Are there active efforts to attract grocery stores, restaurants, child care providers, medical service, or other businesses that the residents need?

[00:55:30]Currently, many residents spend their money in Westville, Noblesville, Lebanon, or other places because those services are not available here.

[00:55:38]If we are planning for thousands of additional residents, how will that change? I've also heard residents ask why the focus appears on the residential growth rather strengthening downtown Sheridan. What is the long-term vision for our downtown district? How do we support local businesses, attract visitors, increase foot traffic, and create opportunities for economic growth? I grew up in a small county, White County, and many communities of similar sizes that offer grocery store, retail opportunities and amenities that serve their residents. If Sheran grows to the approximate 6,000 or more residents, what can currently residents realistically expect our town to look like in 10 to 15 years? I also have questions about environmental impacts.

[00:56:24]Has the town completely done an inner inner oh my goodness gracious environmental studies related to the storm water management drainage green spaces prevention wildlife habitat and surrounding agriculture land has the Indiana Department of Research natural resources or the DNR been concluded regarding any potential impacts mostly important I want to know what specifically benefits current chitter residents will receive for This development growth alone is not a plan.

[00:56:57]Development alone is not a vision.

[00:56:59]Residents deserve to understand what Sheridan will look like in the future, how we will play for growth, how our infrastructure will support, and what benefits exist to residents can expect.

[00:57:10]>> Ma'am, I'm going to ask you to wrap it up. You're about two minutes over your three-minute aotment.

[00:57:14]>> Okay, I'm almost done. I promise. Kim, before decisions are made that shape our community for this generation. Thank you for your time.

[00:57:25]There are no others on the list and staff did not receive uh email comments except for the one that we distributed to you before the meeting.

[00:57:36]Um also from Miss Brown.

[00:57:42]>> See a lot of other faces in the room. Is there anybody else that would like to speak on this while the public hearing is open? Just please state your name so we can record it. Sir, my name is David Hunucker. Uh, I'm here representing uh the Hunsucker family. We own a farm. My mom and dad own a farm on the long road.

[00:58:00]I'm a town sheran resident myself.

[00:58:04]U my concern right now, first of all, I'd like to thank the town council for your public service.

[00:58:09]>> Sir, please speak close to the microphone. I'm sorry. We've got we've got people online that we need to be here. Thank you.

[00:58:14]>> Uh yeah, I would like to thank the uh uh the board for their their public service. It's it's it's very appreciated. Uh I'd like to bring a point that Ruth Gerbig also brought up about the uh the town council and the uh the structure that was recently uh a portion between the the rural council and the the town council that there people that have been voted in that haven't been seated yet. And I see the uh the town council right now should be a steward for that future council and uh keep that in mind in making this decision that for such a uh a decision that's going to be a permanent irreversible uh decision and will really change the complexion of the community uh of the royal character that uh that future council should be the people making that decision.

[00:59:21]Uh I'm also concerned with the you know the traffic flow and also uh uh with the property on the long road about uh loss of the uh the farmland and any compensation for the loss of farm income that may be uh might come with this with the uh uh uh with the construction. And and also my my mom and dad you know, moved to this property years ago to be, you know, in the country, uh, to retire there, and it looks like for the next 10 years, they're going to be in the middle of a construction site.

[01:00:02]Uh, and that that's a major concern also.

[01:00:07]>> Thank you.

[01:00:07]>> Thank you, sir.

[01:00:11]>> Anybody else? Miss Lancel, come on up.

[01:00:22]Hi guys, Sher Lancer. My concerns are more when it's finished. What about leasing? What about the streets? Who's going to allow the parking? Are we going to park on both sides of the streets? Is it going to be big enough for two cars to get down the street? Um, personally, I think it's too dense.

[01:00:42]And I know there's talk of the homeowners association, but will there be a management looking over it, too? And that's it.

[01:00:52]>> Thank you.

[01:00:59]>> Come on up.

[01:01:08]My name is Amy and this is going to affect me and my family.

[01:01:13]>> Can you please state your full name and address?

[01:01:16]>> Oh, my address, too.

[01:01:18]>> Okay. My name is Amy Puente. I live off 226th Street.

[01:01:24]Uh, do you need the full address? You say? Okay. So, um, this will be affecting us, uh, pretty much because you said it's going off 226th Street, correct? So, that is literally going to be right across the street from us.

[01:01:40]Literally, we already have the addition going off to the east of us. And that's already chaotic as it is. We moved here from Indianapolis to get away from all the hustle and bustle. And now you're getting ready to take away what's across from us.

[01:01:57]Um, I get it. Growth is going to happen, but I don't want it across from me. I really don't. I don't I didn't want it across from the east of us. Um, but it's going to happen. If you can move that somewhere else, I'd appreciate it. U, no offense, but >> I do believe Mr. Davis is still taking offers.

[01:02:20]>> But the bottom line is is that, you know, if you're going to put something over there, put the police department, put the fire department. They need something bigger anyway, right? Okay.

[01:02:29]So, overall, I mean, that that's nice.

[01:02:33]Don't get me wrong. It's it's beautiful.

[01:02:36]But overall, I don't want to see all that. I really don't. My home's beautiful. I like I had to put a fence up so I could be able to see the backyard just so I could have my own privacy because I know what's about to come.

[01:02:50]But again, I don't really want that across the street from me. So, thank you.

[01:02:56]>> Thank you.

[01:03:03]>> Is there anybody else in the audience that would like to speak about this?

[01:03:09]Please come on up. State your name, address, sir.

[01:03:14]>> Hi, I'm Tony Ashpaw. Got the property there at 206 in Lemon. My only real concern is has the study been done on how that's going to affect drainage for the rest of us. I was in a meeting last fall where they wanted to charge me $65,000 for drainage upgrades.

[01:03:32]So that's our concern as a land owner.

[01:03:35]That's it. Thank you.

[01:03:37]>> Thank you very much, sir.

[01:03:44]Anybody else out there?

[01:03:49]This is the opportunity to provide public input before this board makes a recommendation to town council. So encourage you to take the opportunity to come up and speak if you've got an opinion sitting up on this board. I can tell you that uh we appreciate everybody who comes up and shares their opinion. We do this for the people of this town. So getting the input is very important to what we do.

[01:04:14]It's my timer.

[01:04:18]close.

[01:04:18]>> Yeah, I believe uh we're going to close the public hearing uh at 7:34 p.m.

[01:04:30]Next step is u for the applicant has an opportunity to come up and uh provide any additional context or rebuttal to any specific information or questions they heard tonight.

[01:04:50]First, I'd like to thank everybody that's provided comments, some of which uh were also at our neighborhood meeting. Uh and I'll remain available up here at the podium to answer additional questions that the commission may have.

[01:04:59]Uh and these may not be in exactly in order, and I'll group some of them because more than one person had that uh comment. Um the first individual who spoke to asked about sideyards, and the minimum sideyard standard within this development uh would be six feet. So there'd be a minimum of 12 ft home between homes. That's not applicable to every area. Um if there was not a third stall garage on some of the houses, of course, there'd be 10 ft plus more on either side uh between houses uh in those orders, but the typical sideyard is is a proposed 6ft sideyard setback.

[01:05:29]Um regarding drainage, um all the necessary improvements to the legal drain network to accommodate development of this site would be on Lenar's dime.

[01:05:38]So if there's downward uh if there's downstream improvements that need to be made to accommodate the connection of this subdivision on either of the legal drains which we u project to um those improvements would be made on on Lonar's dime. Another question that came up was with regard to the extension of existing utilities by Indiana American both water and sewer that are being extended to the area to serve uh this development as well as Eastwood Village. Um, no one that is not connected to that today is obligated to connect onto those facilities. That they may at their election connect onto those utilities as they become available, but there isn't a requirement for them to connect. Um, they can continue to use their individual well and septic. Regarding road infrastructure, it's our understanding that Sheridan is going through the process now of updating its road impact fee zone improvement plan for the benefit of the public who may not be familiar with a zone improvement plan. Today, it's only applicable in the town flex fees on areas that were part of the corporate limits of the town of Sheridan before the reorganization. It's our understanding that that is going to be expanded and addressed the entire township. When that becomes effective, which would be either later this year or beginning of 2028 before homes are constructed, all the homes that are constructed with this development would be subject to the that fee and that fee structure that'll be collected by the town and utilized it by the town in accordance with its decisions on priority road improvements. That'll be um the studies underway to determine what those locations are based upon proposed development um as it would as it would take place. So, the uh new homes being constructed would pay their freight, if you would, in terms of necessary road improvements, whether that be adjacent to the site or at another location as determined by the town council in the future based on the payment of those road impact fees. Uh the main in the main access point into the community up at 226th Street is aligned with the neighborhood to the north. Uh and um lighting with regard to site lighting um that would be relegated of course to like coach lights on either side of a garage. Uh and any type of street lighting that's in the UDO we would comply with. Um our preliminary analysis of those UDO standards is that they're generally night what's called night sky friendly. Those uh uh city street lights uh when uh implemented would be uh shielded from the top and then shielded from the side. So the the light is projected to the area where it's necessary, which is the road surface and the roadway network. So when you're a distance away, you're not seeing the bleed over from a point source. Um it's really not the illumination. It's can I see it as I'm driving down such as a meal barn or or l road. And the answer would be with that shielding in the town standards that are in place today. Um it wouldn't be a direct line of sight to the those light individual lighting fixtures. So that was an important item at our neighborhood meeting and we reviewed the uh standards of the UDO. One of the other questions was regarding sidewalk infrastructure. Um the town does have in place a thoroughare plan which includes pedestrian improvements and as development would occur the town would make decisions about investing in additional uh public path improvements within the rideway. And the challenge there of course is the availability of rightaway. If rideways were 60 foot wide today throughout the community, we'd probably see a lot more ancillary trail improvements being made because the primary cost component of extending trail infrastructure is the acquisition of the rideway uh or easements across people's frontage to get that connectivity to be made. As development would occur and across our entire site frontage, those improvements would be made that would connect us uh as well as to uh Eastwood uh village.

[01:09:32]I think that covers the the items that we wanted to address. I know there were several other questions that that the plan commission may want to want to address and to the extent that we can assist in doing that, we'd be glad to.

[01:09:46]>> Any questions from the board for the applicant before we just open this up to general board discussion?

[01:10:05]I'll open it up to discussion from the board.

[01:10:14]Just want to clarify a couple comments that were made. Um I am currently president of the council. Ruth, you'd mentioned an entirely new board. Um Ron Stone, Dave Kaid, Buddy Terry, and myself still have 18 months.

[01:10:32]There was an election. There's three new members coming on. Daniel Bragg is an incumbent, so he's already been around four years. Um Heidi Keen Holtz and Andrew Porterfield are the the two new council members coming on and both of those were uh individuals that had significant roles in the RE process.

[01:10:53]They currently hold seats on other commissions in town and they are very well informed of future policies. So, it's not like we have totally new people coming on board.

[01:11:06]And I believe Oh, and Mr. Gosser, you're back there. I forgot Mr. Gosser. He's looking around. So, and he is also on RDC.

[01:11:16]RDC. So, um I don't think a lot of this will be brand new to them.

[01:11:23]So, just to give a little bit of confidence on who we have coming on the board.

[01:11:30]M Mrs. Brown, our current population of Sheridan is 5200, not 3,000.

[01:11:40]>> I'm just I'm correcting. So, you are well informed. Um the old corporate limits was around 3,100 and then after reorder around 5100 to 5200.

[01:11:52]Um [snorts] I just wanted to get the facts straight on on those numbers.

[01:11:58]While we're at it, I know the schools were brought up. I have had several discussions with Mr. Monday and I've been texting him right now. He is currently out of state, but um [clears throat] there's been a little confusion. He thought he was clear at the meeting, but um currently the school could add 400 students in their current location buildings.

[01:12:22]They also have right now 19% of the student body is out of the district which is Westfield, Nolesville, Carmel.

[01:12:29]That's 180 students. Um, by no means would they uh want to there's no intention of closing borders, but if they had to, they would grandfather those students in to stay at Sheridan. So potentially they could add around 550 580 students need. don't foresee this housing addition bringing in that many students.

[01:12:56]Um, and nor does he. Again, this is over a six to eight year build. I'm not swaying either way. I'm just reading some numbers facts so people are informed. But this is straight from Dr. Mundy. Um, so again, they can take on 400 plus easily with the facilities and staff that they have.

[01:13:17]Um, there's 180 out of district which is currently 19%. And if you take those 180 out, I believe the school has the lowest student body um enrolled right now that they've had in decades. So they do receive government funds per student.

[01:13:39]So they are desperately in need of additional students and that wouldn't really change the size of the school.

[01:13:49]I'll have more later, but those were things I wanted to get.

[01:13:53]>> Important clarifications.

[01:13:56]>> I just can't believe I forgot he's sitting right there.

[01:14:05]>> I'm going to put my fire chief's hat on on for a minute and u discuss some of the concerns and emails that I've received regarding this proposal. I just want to give you an update on the status of the fire department. Um, in 2026 alone, uh, we received a grant to hire three firefighters. Um, I was also given two firefighters in my budget for 2026 and, uh, had a fairly large budget increase for operating cost. Currently, we're um going through a recruit school with the new hires and um when that's all said and done, we'll have six firefighters 247 per shift. We have three shifts and um that doesn't include administration, our administrators. So, fire department's in really good shape. We have plenty of time to prepare for this development with the six to eight year buildout.

[01:14:59]Um equipment wise, we're in good shape.

[01:15:01]We're going to have to do some some updating on a fire engine here in the next couple years. We have two ambulances. Uh once um all this new uh these new recruits are onboarded, we'll be able to run both of our ambulances ALS 247. So we have two paramedics on duty all the time. Um we have a new ambulance on order. It's been on order since 2023 and they say it's coming in August.

[01:15:29]Um, so from a fire department standpoint, we're in pretty good shape and we got time to plan for it. Um, our runs are up about 10%, but um, that's not due to uh it's not due to Sky Lake.

[01:15:40]It's not due to Arbor or Center Place.

[01:15:42]It's the majority of the increases in people falling. So, I don't know why they're falling so much all of a sudden.

[01:15:50]Um, I want to address the uh 12oot spacing on the on the homes in our UDO.

[01:15:57]It's normally 16 ft. So, I mean, we're talking, this is a 14T ruler, so we're talking three of these plus 6 in. And when a home's on fire, I'm not really sure that's going to matter. Um, I don't, yes, minutes count, but I don't think we're talking very many minutes.

[01:16:16]Um, I tried to pull some data and wasn't able to get that done today, but um, it's not a super concern to me. Um, I do have a question for LAR. Is there any type of um building the homes closer together than than what is normally allowed in the UDO? Is there any type of special exterior components that you're putting on these homes since they're closer together?

[01:16:44]>> Hi, Sean Blackburn from Lenar Homes of Indiana, 1155 North Meridian Street, Carmel, Indiana. Um that was uh part of our reasoning for going away from vinyl siding um and opting for uh masonry and fiber cement board siding as we uh believe it's more fire retardant than than vinyl.

[01:17:04]>> It is. Thank you for answering that.

[01:17:12]Response times to that area are currently about three and a half minutes. Um as long as there's not construction going on. So uh from Main Street out in that area. It um we can get out there pretty quickly, so I don't see that changing. Um, another thing I want to talk about is uh is a new fire station.

[01:17:31]We need a new fire station yesterday and um they're expensive and we're going to need the tax revenue to pay for it and people want a grocery store and um some retail shops in town. We need people to visit those shops and we need people to invest in our community and that's all I have from a fire chief standpoint.

[01:17:57]>> Thank you, Chief Stern.

[01:18:04]>> Making the rounds here, Chief Nielsen, I see in the back of the room, is there anything you'd like to address that you heard uh that you think the community would benefit from hearing?

[01:18:16]Mike Nielsen. I'm the uh police chief uh proudly serving here in uh the town of Sheridan. Um there is no concern from a law enforcement perspective. Um we currently have 11 members uh on staff.

[01:18:29]Um 12 total. One of those is assigned to the school system as our SRO. So we have 11 officers which is including all administrative staff that work the road as well. um our five-year strategic plan and our 10-year strategic plan fully supports um any services that we were able to provide uh for this project. I would also like to address the the fact that um 226 is proactively being looked at by the town manager, by the town council, and um we're looking at reducing speed limits and what we can do with some of those intersections as well. So, our goal is to have that uh a lot of that accomplished prior to uh when this housing development comes.

[01:19:12]Entertain any questions.

[01:19:16]>> Thank you.

[01:19:17]>> Thank you, Chief.

[01:19:18]>> Uh Mr. President, I did forget to answer one question. Um I was asked um if we could handle multi- structure fires due to lightning strikes since homes will only be 12t apart. Um, we can only handle one house fire at a time. U, this happens in communities all over. Um, we go to Caramel and help them when they have multiple lightning strikes. Westfield helps us. We help Westfield. Um, I know you see Westfield coming into town a lot to help us. That is back when Westfield was continuing to grow and only had two fire stations.

[01:19:52]There was many years where Sheran went to Westfield a lot more than Westfield ever come to Sheridan. It's growing pains. We work together. We have mutual aid agreements. U currently there we don't charge each other. Um we just work together um as two communities to to make sure everybody stays safe.

[01:20:09]Sometimes Westfield comes up and it's just for precaution just in case. You know, we got somebody there that can help us if something went wrong. So we'd rather have too many people than not enough. Um have great relationships with Westfield's fire chief staff. So um I don't see an issue in that regards to that question. Other discussion from the board.

[01:20:42]>> I have a question for commissioners. We just finished the comp plan. How do you feel this aligns with the new comp plan?

[01:20:54]Do you feel like on par.

[01:21:01]>> I can give you my opinion, but I'd rather give it to you after I hear yours.

[01:21:06]Uh, I personally feel that it is on par.

[01:21:09]Um, I'm one there are a lot of developers, a lot of business ideas that come to small group to review prior to getting this far.

[01:21:26]Um, being president of council, I'm in majority of those and I think the LAR guys can tell you and I know four star that I am deemed the a-hole of Hamilton County have been very protective of what it's brought in front of us. Um, I director Miller can contest to the fact that I very black and And there's a lot of things that you guys don't see because I tell them, "Hell no." And I think even when Lunar came in, they'd already heard about me.

[01:22:06]um for the last two years during the reorg process, I explained to developers when it came to the housing addition expectations and to set a bar. Um, I was really expecting to tell our know about to get this far and they brought exactly what you just witnessed today. And it's everything that I personally said you've got to have in a package to be able to come to this table.

[01:22:36]We don't want a housing addition. We want a community.

[01:22:40]It stinks that if you live near that, just like the people on Dunar Road that aren't particularly fond of Skylakes, um the comp plan, I was very boisterous in the fact of growth is coming. We've got to have some growth reorged 100 extra miles of road. We have to pay for this somehow.

[01:23:00]Everyone wants the A lifestyle.

[01:23:04]It has to go somewhere. Someone's going to be upset. I live on 236. That thing's going to get widened. They're going to take half my front yard.

[01:23:12]I don't like it, but it's a betterment for the community because that is an unsafe road. Um, we met and there's some people in the crowd that's part of that committee. Mr. Auder's back there and I was a horse's ass in those meetings. Um, that growth should come from the south and preserve the north. It's not against the people that live in the south part of our town. Um, but that's Westfield moving up and I stated several times at 236 and I finally gave in that 246.

[01:23:52]Imagine 38th Street downtown. You take Meridian, you go to Indianapolis, it's beautiful homes. You hit 38th Street and you lock the doors.

[01:24:02]And if anyone had gone down Meridian, you'll understand what I'm saying. So that's the prime road. So keep anything that we're doing south of 236.

[01:24:12]Well, 236 is a corridor coming in. So it's going to get developed from both sides eventually. Not tomorrow, but at some point those corridors 38 to 36, they're going to get developed.

[01:24:29]No one likes it. We're not here to dictate if you own property what you do with your property. I am floored that Mr. Davis is looking to sell because during reorg he was up here at that podium stating the fact of if Eastwood goes in he would build the biggest hog farm ever and you couldn't control smell because he was here first.

[01:24:57]And all of a sudden here we're talking about Davis. Who would have thought Davis would be looking to develop his land?

[01:25:05]But it's in front of us. Does it make sense for the area?

[01:25:13]Not if you live by it.

[01:25:15]But we go all the way up to 276. I mean, does it make sense to put it at 266?

[01:25:21]It doesn't. And it stinks. I get that.

[01:25:26]But it's coming.

[01:25:28]This is the package has been laid in front of me as far as a community, not a slap, whatever housing addition. Um, in my words to the LAR group that came in, I like what I see. It's I'm only one.

[01:25:52]As long as you don't deviate from that slideshow, I'll support you. If you change one thing, I'm going be your worst I did say that, didn't I?

[01:26:02]>> I mean, if if you change the splash pad, if you It's you've got [clears throat] to build what you're presenting, and we we didn't get that with fourstar across from the baseball. They complied to the UDO, but they didn't produce what they put in front of us.

[01:26:23]The other thing is I have several constituents that approached me. They want the next level house. They don't want starter homes.

[01:26:33]They presented a package and you put your starting prices, but who honestly comes in and purchases a home and stays at that basement price.

[01:26:43]So, I point blank, what is your range you expect this housing addition to go for? Because you told me a number 400 to 750 and that is the next level development.

[01:26:57]Yeah, ju just to for the crowd. Um we'd like to have some be in the 300 still, but go probably as high as 550,000. And then if someone were to select one of the basement additions, that adds about $130,000 to the uh sale price, but that is not factored into the current number.

[01:27:16]>> Sure. But the potential is a 4 to 750 range. Is that >> and and put the marketing and put that in there. That's That's for me personally representing my constituents.

[01:27:31]Several people wanting that next level.

[01:27:32]So is it affordable housing? Hell no.

[01:27:35]But the people that live in the starter home editions, the Maple Run, Sharon Estates that have matured or grown and they want the next package, the only option for them is to leave our community and go to Westfield, go to Noblesville. So in essence, you are creating affordable housing because those people have an opportunity to Run, move into Davis Farms, and now all of a sudden we've got a lower price point available because they just unoccupied a home for for someone else to purchase at a lower price. So, in my opinion, we're creating entry level pricing by building something the next step up. We have a lot of retirees that have approached me from the school. Brimberry is one of them. I hope they're watching. When are we going to have They're they want to move into town and they were waiting on the next level to come in. They ended up going to Maple Run and I think they probably maxed out every option they can. But we're not taking questions. You can put your hand down.

[01:28:40]But that's what I am approached with all the time. Why are we doing this the starter homes when we have a community base that wants something more?

[01:28:54]I'm not for development. I want it slow.

[01:28:56]I want it personally. This is all personal. I'm only one. Um but this is the best package that we've seen. It is a true community in my eyes.

[01:29:08]Um to Lonar and maybe you can answer this.

[01:29:12]What? It will have an HOA. Someone asked about that. And the average you're estimating it'll cost how much a month for HOA?

[01:29:20]I'm looking to Sean for an estimate, but yes, it'll have an HOA.

[01:29:25][clears throat] >> Yeah, we did our uh initial estimates because it was a question um at the town council intro and it's looking like it'll be under $100 annually. So, you know, I went to the University of Kentucky. Math isn't my strong suit, you know, but you know, you're looking or excuse me, under $100 monthly, you're looking at like $89.

[01:29:50]pool for 100 a month.

[01:29:51]>> Yes, we're looking at like $89 a month.

[01:29:54]>> So, $100 a month HOA and I don't think any of our other communities have an HOA that charges anything like that. So, that's my two cents. You ask my opinion and I'll give you probably more than you want to hear.

[01:30:08]>> Longer than three minutes, but that's okay. Chief Stern, do you care to speak?

[01:30:15]I think it fits um with with Arbor and the other LAR across the street. Kind of keeps all of our density and for now into one area, one location instead of having this in a different part of Sheran.

[01:30:40]It's a tough question.

[01:30:43]But um you know the infrastructure is there with what they've had to do for Eastwood Village.

[01:30:51]Yes, there's going to have to be road improvements and things to follow.

[01:30:57]A lot of people in the community that I've talked to like it that doesn't think it's good for a community in the long run.

[01:31:12]I I think um I sat on 12 13 months of comp plan uh committee meetings uh sat through several opportunities for public feedback and input and uh I know the detailed process that went into not only collecting public input but putting together the map the suggested future use map for the town. Um, from that perspective, I think that I think that this development checks uh all the right boxes as far as where it is. Um, personally, having sat through those meetings and having been involved in in the UDO the last time it was it was updated, um, having given myself the brain damage of sitting through those meetings, I'd rather that uh the folks at LAR just follow the rules that we've already written and none of us have to sit here and have these conversations. Um but that's not the case. They've found things that uh they found too restrictive and and things that they wanted to improve upon in other areas. So uh I don't I don't like varying from a minimum density that we've established as our community standard. U but um overall I think that uh I think that a development like this is what the community needs.

[01:32:34]>> From uh my reading of the comprehensive plan. I do think that this project does encompass what we set in place. I think this does appear if they do provide what they have presented to us very high quality product and I really appreciate our town council president how he explained that this will really help encompass the next level of housing. We live in Maple Run. We built there in late 2022.

[01:33:06]We have three very young children and you know I expect as they grow that our needs and our desires for home will change and you know kind of looking at what's out there right now you know we would seriously consider Westfield Zville you know there is robust options for that next level of housing I think was presented very good alternative to those areas. Other people that I know that are in my age range to you know follow that same as well.

[01:33:49]Would you still consider living there if you knew that the lot size was 1100s to 1800s of an acre maximum [snorts] >> potentially just have to depend on >> okay a lot of us here know acres and not square footage. So, uh, I thought that was important to point out is that the acre the lots I mean I remember 10 years ago when a quarter acre lot was considered small and an 1100th of an acre lot seems impossibly small for a town that prides itself on being rural and I was on the comp plan. uh steering committee along with Mr. Kinho's and we spent a lot of time coming up with what we think is what our community wanted based on what everyone else told us. And the night we actually approved it that day, I well actually several days before I spent hours reading every word of that um first draft or second draft, third draft and I came up with over 50 instances where words like preserving agricultural rural um farmland those were important aspects to our community.

[01:35:31]This does not do that.

[01:35:34]Although I'm not opposed to growth.

[01:35:36]Truly, I am not. And I think Lenar, I think you have done a great job here with um I love that there's 50 different options for the different um what do you call it? Land.

[01:35:53]>> Yes. Um that's wonderful. Uh, exactly what we need here. Um, I love the upgraded siding, the brick. Um, I don't think it's a bragging point that you have a pocket park that's 1.7 acres.

[01:36:13]That is smaller than my front yard. U you're going to have 582 homes on 240 acres with approximately 2.5 is it 2.5 people per house? I'm not sure exactly what Yes.

[01:36:34]That's just not enough space. Um assuming there's children in those homes, they don't have land around the homes.

[01:36:43]That's not enough space. Um, the walking paths I think are fantastic. Uh, I really commend you on the way that you've woven the walking paths through the neighborhood. Um, I think that's great.

[01:36:56]I'm sure you did your market research.

[01:36:59]I'm sure people don't want large yards at this point because they're busy running around their children. Yet, there's times when their children aren't being ran around. Where are those kids going to go? Are they going to be playing in the fields? Are they going to be playing in the woods?

[01:37:16]It just it doesn't make sense to me.

[01:37:18]We're at this incredible position where we get to set a precedent with you, fortunately and unfortunately.

[01:37:29]I don't think we have any need to rush into it.

[01:37:33]It's not to say that you can't be the first builder that comes in and builds after this new comp plan. Not to say that at all, but I think that in my eyes that if you want to be here and you want to be the first new development in Sheridan, the new Sheridan after the comp plan, that you're going to have to step up your game. You're going to have to give us more than 88.41 acres of open space, of which 15.7 acres is water.

[01:38:08]Um, we don't We don't need to see houses that are all crammed together with 12 feet between them.

[01:38:19]Something that we pride ourselves on is quiet and the rural feel. This is not it.

[01:38:31]I personally feel like there's hope for you to be here. I genuinely do. It might be sizing down the neighborhood. Um, so it's not so large. Um, do I think that there's community in there? Yes, I think there's pockets of community. I could see that. Um, but that's just that's not it. That's not the first neighborhood for Sheridan as it is in my personal opinion. Um, again, I am not opposed to growth. I think we need growth. We need um we need the tax money. We need a grocery store.

[01:39:09]Okay, we do. Um, we definitely need housing for people who are empty nesters or who are wanting to move and for expanding families. Um, but in my personal opinion, this is not it.

[01:39:28]>> Mr. President, I have further questions.

[01:39:31]>> Um, something that a couple of people up here brought up. Uh I believe three three folks who have had discussion items that I that I think is incredibly important is um all of this is great marketing. Uh the magic is in the enforcement and what we as a town do with the product in the field. Um, as somebody who sees at least three violations on PUDS every time I pull out of my driveway, uh, and, um, an exhibited lack of appetite to do anything about enforcing them. From the town staff perspective, I have serious concerns about, uh, our ability as a town to deliver to the people in this room on the promises that we're making. uh about what's going to be included in this neighborhood. Um I have hours more thoughts on the topic, but I'm going to limit my comments to that given um given some outside circumstances.

[01:40:52]I make a motion we give a favorable recommendation to council.

[01:40:56]>> Second.

[01:40:58]>> Uh we have a motion and a second for the Sheridan APC to provide a favorable recommendation to town council for Davis Farms PUB.

[01:41:11]Any further discussion about that?

[01:41:14]like to call for a roll call vote, please.

[01:41:22]>> Mr. Keen Holtz, >> no.

[01:41:27]>> Mr. Deainy, >> yes.

[01:41:30]>> Mr. Stern, >> yes.

[01:41:38]>> Miss Copky, >> no.

[01:41:41]>> Mr. Meister, >> yes.

[01:41:44]Motion passes.

[01:41:49]>> All right. One other item. Um given uh given some recent interactions with town staff and uh the results of this meeting tonight, I'm going to resign my position on this board effective immediately.

[01:42:04]Are there any motions?

[01:42:06]>> Who is the VP?

[01:42:10]Amy, >> Miss Copy.

[01:42:23]You're meeting now.

[01:42:39]>> I did. So, >> Miss Kofky statute has to be all members of the That is correct. I apologize.

[01:43:17]The plan commission has the option of tableabling a final decision on this to the next meeting.

[01:43:43]I'm a little lost at the moment. So, we voted, but we didn't vote. The vote didn't count.

[01:43:48]>> It It counted, but >> there's not enough.

[01:43:51]>> Yeah, sorry.

[01:43:52]>> It's a seven member panel, so you have to have four voting the same to get majority.

[01:44:00]There's only five present. You still have to have four. So, Mr. King, if I could be recognized.

[01:44:07]>> Yes.

[01:44:08]>> Um, sorry.

[01:44:10]>> Um, to to supplement what staff had relayed, the the plan commission is afforded another opportunity. An another option which is positive, negative or or without a recommendation. So, that option exists. Um, if the plan commission thought that was appropriate, there could be a motion for no recommendation or Not a yes, not a no, but no recommendation in addition to the opportunity to table it to the next next meeting. And and of course, we'll uh respond either way to the will of the will of the plan commission on that.

[01:44:44]>> Staff, if we go with no recommendation, it just goes before town council without any recommendation from us. Correct.

[01:44:51]>> Correct.

[01:44:52]>> But can we make that decision now that we're one member short and don't have a quorum anymore?

[01:44:58]>> There's still a quorum.

[01:45:00]I understand it.

[01:45:03]>> So, >> I'll make a motion for no recommendation to council.

[01:45:10]I >> um >> Okay, let's do a roll call vote.

[01:45:28]Mr. Deainy, >> yes.

[01:45:31]>> Mr. Stern, >> yes.

[01:45:34]>> Miss Copky, >> yes.

[01:45:36]>> Mr. Meister, >> yes.

[01:45:38]>> That motion did pass.

[01:45:42]>> Thank you.

[01:45:47]>> Okay.

[01:45:52]>> Second motion. Second's been made. All in favor say >> All in favor say I.

[01:46:01]>> I.

[01:46:02]>> I.

[01:46:04]>> All opposed.

[01:46:06]>> Have a good evening.

[01:46:11][laughter] Turn off the lights.