The Islamic dilemma centers on whether the Quran claims to be correcting previous scriptures (Jewish and Christian texts) or merely correcting what people say about those scriptures. David Wood argues that the Quran does claim to correct previous scriptures, as evidenced by its statement that Jesus was not crucified but 'made to appear' so, which contradicts the New Testament. This creates a theological challenge because if the Quran corrects the scriptures, it implies knowledge of their contents, which raises questions about divine revelation and the nature of religious truth.
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David Wood EXPOSES Ali Dawah's STRANGE OBSESSION With GodLogicAdded:
Please look carefully. I'm going to zoom into Avery's body language.
>> What is up with this? Oh, look your body language. Oh, yes, your demeanor shifted. Hm. Yes, you're clearly looking panicked. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Everything. Do you guys ever actually just try to focus on an argument for 5 seconds?
>> He's kind of giving you some insight as to like how he watches debates, though.
Like, he doesn't listen to what they're saying.
>> I've been saying that for years. I've been saying that for years, and I had to find that out early on. They're not listening to what you're saying. They're listening to like how like who's who's thumping his chest and stuff like that and that that person must be right. This is stupid. This caveman religion. This >> is exactly what happens when every time he gets caught out his nervous laugh etc. when he came to my table. Okay.
Watch his body language very carefully cuz he knows what he done to himself >> and you you admitted you actually I'm surprised and I have to I have to commend you actually.
>> Yeah.
>> I thought you'd be a belligerent young man.
>> Hey, look. Ali Daw was zoomed in on him, didn't he?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> I can tell you what Avery's like. This guy's actually too stupid to understand anything I'm saying right now.
>> You put on the hat. You put I'm a humble, but I have to say you're better than I thought you'd be.
>> And I agree with Hijab. This is why I have to give credit. Where is Drew? I admire Avery's honesty when he said yes in the head.
>> But at least he was honest enough to say yes. Something >> he was how how are they not getting this? He was asked does Allah claim that he's correcting the people of the book?
Yes, he and Avery clarified not correcting their book, correcting what they say. Jai, do do you agree? Does the author of the Quran claim to be correcting what people say?
>> That's exactly what it's >> Yes, that is what he says. Oh, no. I guess the Islamic dilemma is done now, right guys? Cuz we agreed with that.
Sorry. Doesn't work because we're not talking about what people say. We're talking about what the text says.
And Avery didn't agree to that. And I applaud Avery for being honest and saying, "Yep, that was a correction.
Your whole estim Thank you, Avery, very much." No, >> you're better than I You do. You You do have a future in in in content creation and in influencing.
>> You do have a future this. And you you know what? There's some I'm starting to like him.
>> Yeah.
>> Starting to like something. Yeah. He's got some He's got some good qualities, but just >> usually the effect I have on people >> because don't just smile like that because you look like a buck buck tooth.
Uh it's okay.
But that's a side for now.
We're just having a we're having we're having a good time.
>> This is a I'm a humble chef. I like to cook giant.
>> Okay. Whatever. Let me just say this to you, right?
>> The point I'm making to you is is is this. You have just admitted when the Quran says, "Yeah, that see that?" Look, look, look, guys. Look, look, look how Avery does not like because he's like, "Yo, >> cuz he realizes he's misrepresenting him. He's like, "That's not what I said."
>> Yeah. Do you hear this? Ali Dawa sees and Avery's No. No. Oh, you see he's getting psychologically traumatized by Muhammad's power. No. He's like, "No.
How? How are you not getting? How? No.
Why are you still not getting this?" It It is, guys. It is frustrating to talk to these guys when they're so freaking dumb. They don't understand what you're saying. I >> I made a big mistake. And he's like, "Yo, no, no, no. I didn't say that.
Look, look, look very carefully, guys.
Please observe him very carefully.
>> Is this the entire video? No, no, no.
Let me finish what I'm saying. And is it then correcting that or not? Yes or no?
>> Beautiful. So now I get to fully answer.
So this is what you're This is notice the difference. The answer is yes.
Here's a quick answer to yes.
>> Yes.
>> Let me finish.
>> Correcting what they say.
>> You just misrepresented me. I never said about anything.
>> The answer is yes. Here's a quick answer to yes.
>> Yes.
>> You didn't say anything yet.
>> Yes, you did. He said that what I admitted that what the Quran says I never said anything about what the Quran says. The answer is yes. Here's a quick answer to yes.
>> Yes. We're talking about what Muhammad had.
>> You haven't finished my sentence. So you would not you could >> you see that the fact that look he hasn't hijab hasn't even finished the sentence and he's already panicking cuz he knows him saying the word yes. Is it correcting night game over? So he's like oh I didn't say that. Avery said in response to the question, "Is a law supposedly correcting what the people say?" Avery says, "Yes." Guess what? Any last one of us who defends the Islamic dilemma would say yes. That's exactly what the Quran claims to be doing. It claims to be correcting what people say, what Jews say, what Christians say, and it's saying you're wrong. Why? because you are lying about your scriptures or you don't understand your scriptures or you're misrepresenting your scriptures but you're not you're wrong about your scriptures and now I'm correcting what you're saying any last one of us will say that I would say that I just asked Jai Jai would say that >> of course Chris Chris from speaker corner has a book on the Islamic dilemma he would say that any any one of us would say that and these guys are saying aha they just SAID IT YEAH THEREFORE THE ISLAMIC dilemma just went Hey, no. What you would need us to say yes to is is the Quran deliberately correcting the previous scriptures and saying they're an error. If we say yes to that, yeah, that would go that would that would do away with the Islamic dilemma for anyone who says that. None of us say that because it wouldn't be true. The Quran never claims to be correcting the previous scriptures ever. Ever. Not once. And and and that's kind of built into our argument as well because there are certain verses that say like you know they well they they do it with their mouths. Like that's part of our argument that the Quran is saying yeah what they're saying is wrong but that doesn't say what the book says is wrong.
It's like we're confirming the book.
We're not confirming what they say. And so because Muhammad only had access to what they say. He didn't know what the book said. He didn't know the book contradicted him. So the book is being confirmed over and over and over and over again. And then it says but what they say that's something different. And this is like part of it's part of our argument. So it doesn't it doesn't defeat the Islamic dilemma. It's part of the Islamic dilemma.
>> It's part of the Islamic dilemma. So it's like when they say, "Ah, but look, the Quran contradict the crucifixion."
Yeah, >> right. That's part of the Islamic dilemma. It contradicts scriptures that it affirms.
>> Yes, you did. Yes, you did. You said that. It says correctly.
>> Would you have known what I'm saying? Go ahead, bro. I said when the Quran said guys catch that awkward laugh. He's had that laugh with Libyan. He's had it with me. He's had it with Hashim with hijab with that guy who said if Jesus Oh no.
And God what they talk about? He had it everywhere. Yep. And he knows. Look, you can see his cheeks are going red.
>> They did not kill him. They did not crucify him. Where it was made to appear to them that that was the case. Yeah.
You admitted that that was what you thought was a correction of Muhammad of the Christian community, but you thought he didn't know what's in the New Testament. Okay? You didn't know what's in the New Testament, yet it's still a correction somehow. The point is, is the crucifixion mentioned in the New Testament? Yes, the crucifixion is without a doubt mentioned in the New Testament and it's mentioned multiple times in multiple reports. It says in the Quran that it was made to appear to them that it was the case. It didn't really happen. This is a correction of the Quran which shows the author of the Quran. Whether you believe it's the prophet Muhammad or we believe it's Allah, the author of the Quran was fully aware of what was in that book and not only did he reject it, he corrected it.
>> Anyone that's watching this, >> that is idiotic.
>> Yeah. As you pointed out, like he's correcting himself. He's correcting himself. And that's that's what's going on there.
>> Yeah. So, hijab, what hijab just said there, guys, was if the author of the Quran says he's correcting the the Christian community, but the text says what the Christian community believes, isn't he obviously aware of what the text says and he's responding to that?
No. The position of the Quran is that Jews and Christians are are wrong about their scriptures and he hears Jews and Christians saying certain things and he responds to them. Does that mean he knows what the text says and that he's correcting that? No, not a bit. Show us that that's the
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