No...62 Million Men Didn't Attend A R**e Academy

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[00:00:00]I want, no, I need more men. I need any man to speak about this because 99.9% of the videos and posts I've seen about this topic are coming from women. Men will be so quick to be defensive.

[00:00:13]They'll be so quick to say, "Well, not all men, not all men are like that." And then crickets. Where are you guys? 62 million of your population visited that website in February alone. Instead of us having to come on here and be like, "This is disgusting." You guys should be talking to your bros. You should be talking to your fathers, your grandfathers, your uncles, any other man in your life that has access to the internet. You need to be talking to them about this. See if they've heard about this. Ask them if they visited that website. Ask what they think about this.

[00:00:48]And if you don't want to, if you're too afraid to, you don't want to cause drama, then you are part of the problem.

[00:00:53]You are signaling to everyone that you are okay with being friends with people who fantasize about. But then you want to act offended when we women say that we don't trust y'all and we don't know who to trust because it just seems like almost every single man is like this.

[00:01:09]Well, not all men, not all men. Then where are you? Where's your voice? Speak up. Because this should be embarrassing to you. This should be really embarrassing to you. You should be screaming at how disgusting this is, but you're not. And we live in a backwards world where men don't want to listen to women. Women can make a hundred videos about this and they will not care. But if a man makes a video about this calling this out, they will care. But where are you guys? I want however long this is going to be to be a lesson for everybody that when you want to give out information, it's important to make sure that everything you say or put out is accurate. Because when you aren't accurate and you blow something out of proportion or you sensationalize it to a high degree, the sensationalism will somehow matter more to a lot of people than the actual subject matter, than the actual conversation because there will be people who will uh um and um you well actually and when you think about it to death because somebody blew something out of proportion. For example, when I tell you that 62 million men or over 62 million men attended in February an online academy, you might be a little bit disturbed much like I was because when you sit there and tell me that 62 million men participated in learning how to commit a crime, I'mma be a little bit concerned. However, it's important to note that if you go to the article and you actually stomach what the article has in it, which is an introduction to how they want to format, how they want to talk about it, it's not 62 million men. It's just nearly a thousand users on an internet server discussing depraved ass [ __ ] And I'mma be honest with you, 62 million men would be crazy.

[00:03:10]50 million men would be crazy. One million men would be crazy. A 100,000 men would be crazy. 50,000 would be crazy. A thousand is crazy. One man would be crazy. Any number of people in an online server trying to learn how to commit acts against women is crazy. But the reason it's been blown out of proportion is primarily due to a tweet telling everybody that it was 62 million men. Exactly. when in reality it's 62 million visits to that website. And when you have a thousand horny ass dudes who are dedicated in trying to figure out how to commit a crime, yeah, that's going to be something that gains traction over time and they're going to count those up specifically in one month. And they did that. And it's embarrassing that it happened on Black History Month. But as I looked at this article and went through it, I was disturbed at what I was reading. The world was confronted by this form of internet enabled abuse in 2024 during a mass trial of Dominique Pelott and 50 other men in southern France. It was on a so-called dating website in a chat room called without her knowledge that Pelott was able to connect with dozens of other men to instigate the then wife Jazelle while drugged unconscious by him. She was over 200 times by 70 men, not all of whom could be tracked down by police. The Pelott case briefly shown a spotlight on this dark corner of the internet. But while Koko, the website involved, was shut down and public attention moved elsewhere, this behavior did not disappear. A monthsl long CNN as equals investigation has uncovered a hidden online world where the commodification and amplification of sex violence against women is flourishing. One site, Motherless, is home to more than 20,000 videos of so-called sleep content uploaded by users with hundreds of thousands of views. The website, which had around 60 million visits, not 62 million men, 62 million visits in February alone and whose core audience is in the United States, describes itself as a moral free file host where anything legal is hosted forever. The legality of some material posted is in serious doubt. So-called sleep content is categorized using descriptive tags such as passed out and # check. In these videos, I want y'all to understand that what I'm about to read is some depraved ass [ __ ] In these videos, men film themselves lifting the closed eyelids of women to show that they're sleeping or sedated with some eye check videos surpassing 50,000 views. Inside the motherless sleep community, first reported on by German investigative journalist Isabelle Beer and Isabelle Stroth. members trade advice on how to drug their partners on the ZZZ chat group which a motherless user had linked to and where we first met Peter. They do the same. CNN is not providing the names and doses of the specific medicines the users say that they employ. One motherless user claimed to be running a business selling and dispatching sleeping liquids to any address in the world. The man who said that he was based in Chutah, a tiny Spanish exclave on the North African coast, said on his Telegram account that it would cost €150, approximately $175, for a bottle of the liquid that he said was tasteless and odorless. Your wife won't feel anything and won't remember anything. all of this and the concept of people buying in on it, I would consider a crime and I would want every single person who's in these servers in these chat rooms in jail. And it should be just that easy. But because I live in a world where people want to sensationalize next to anything, you have people seemingly mad that people are correcting what dumb asses on Twitter and Tik Tok are saying by letting people know it's not 62 million men. It's just a thousand in a [ __ ] group chat adding up to 62 million visits to a website. The CNN story about the online academy has somehow devolved into a conversation about 62 million men versus 62 million clicks. And that is exactly what it means to be a survivor in culture. And that is exactly why it is so triggering for so many people, specifically women. And as a black woman living in the same United States that y'all are living in, I know it's crazy to be like, "Oh, but the facts don't matter." Cuz they do. And I appreciate that y'all are so bent on making sure the facts are correct. Thank you. But as a survivor, do you know how exhausting it is to have every mistake, every misspeak, every misstep that you make somehow matter more than the violence done against you? Of course not. Because if you did, you wouldn't focus on 62 million men versus 62 million views. As if that's not millions of men participating in an online website designed to focus on the exploitation and brutality against women that gives way to an online academy that gives way to group chats where men talk about how and brutalize the women in their lives and how they can do it better. You would focus on the issue at hand, the violence at hand more than you split hairs against is it 62 million men or 30 million men or 10 million men or more or less. And again, I know that the facts matter. I know that accurate reporting matters. I get it. Thank you. But I know a lot of y'all care more about being right than you care about the problem because you made posts correcting women about the story before you made post about the story. You made post talking about how women should be angry but be correct before you talked about the violence happening to them. And I know this has triggered me as a victim. And I know that I'm projecting here because I can see myself back in the police station where I was once and should have been more being reminded as to why I didn't report more. I know that. And I know that's also the reality for one in six women in the United States as a conservative estimate as one in six women in the United States have been assaulted in some capacity in their lives. One in six. And I know a lot of people are going to say, "Oh, but I was just trying to look out for survivors."

[00:09:40]Or worse, well, women just can't take accountability for anything. Okay, that's your right. But it is my right as a survivor to know that a lot of what y'all are doing is the same thing you have done in this case and in a dozen cases before and in decades of cases before that. as in you focus on this one little niche component, distract and derail from the conversation and then they get away with it over and over and over because if you cared then the focus would be on the fact that the site is still up that there were 62 million views in February and maybe about 80 million in March and who knows what the April numbers are because it's ongoing.

[00:10:18]That's where your focus would be and your anger and your shame and your correction and your videos. That's how it would come out. not in 62 million men versus 62 million views. Let's be correct here. As if there's somehow a threshold that you have to cross before it matters. And if you get it wrong, then you haven't crossed it. So, we can't care. That's what it feels like as a victim. And again, I get that the facts matter, but y'all need to know what it feels like to be a victim for a second. And the fact that so many of you don't is a privilege that I think you all overlook a lot.

[00:10:47]>> I know we're all mad. I know we're all angry. But let's take a breath and get the facts straight. It was not 62 million men. It was 62 million hits on a website in a month. Not unique users.

[00:10:58]There are only 168 million men in the United States. And the article says that the core viewership was in the US and that would be over a third of the men in the country. That's just not the case.

[00:11:08]Now, do I believe that over a third of the men in our country are misogynists or would assault someone in the right circumstance? Yes. But not that many men are going to a website to learn how to drug and lives. I want to make it clear that I am not saying this to downplay the experience of survivors or how absolutely horrific this website is, but we do need to be factual when we report on it. Also, I've seen a lot of people reposting this. This person did not site their sources and some of them are correct and some of them are completely wrong. Gmail has almost 300 million monthly hits. When something as absolutely shocking and utterly horrific as this comes out, our nervous system shuts down and we go into repost mode.

[00:11:43]We are completely ruled by our emotions and we stop critically thinking about the information we're consuming. This only happened last night and I've already seen so many creators jump on the bandwagon and falsely claim that 62 million men are doing this per month. Do not need to commodify this situation. It is horrible enough standing on its own.

[00:11:58]I do not blame you for feeling scared and angry and clicking repost. I've seen over 10 of my creator friends site and source this 62 million men statistic and I will never know if it was a simple oversight or if they were sensationalizing the truth for views.

[00:12:10]Regardless of the situation, it's our responsibility to report on these stories with integrity. And the larger of a platform you have, the more careful you need to be about that. The survivors deserve that. Exaggerating the truth only takes away your credibility and completely shuts the door to anyone from the other side understanding the true horror of this situation because they will immediately write you off. The facts are bad enough by themselves. And the more we sensationalize, the more we are hurting survivors by taking away the perceived validity of their experiences.

[00:12:37]Please be honest. Take a second to think before you post. And if you have a platform, please do better. Love you.

[00:12:43]There's nothing wrong with saying that, but for some reason it's this big atrocity, letting people know a fact because they're so fixated on a fiction.

[00:12:53]And then when you tell them that fact, these [ __ ] get snoody about it.

[00:12:57]They say, "Oh, well, sorry. We somehow offended you by saying 62 million men."

[00:13:02]It's not about nobody being offended.

[00:13:04]It's about a fact. And the fact is there are men out there doing this [ __ ] It's not 62 MILLION. IT'S STILL A PROBLEM that it's any number of men, but when we sit there and blow it to millions, we have a problem. And because of that, people are not going to take it as seriously when they dedicate time to looking into it and seeing that that number is not even overblown, it's lied about. And then you're going to have [ __ ] arguing with each other about how you just lied on men or you don't care about women or you don't care about what happens to women, you don't care about the subject matter in regards to it. And we completely missed the point that somebody who is apparently in West Africa is sharing clips from a previous live stream he said he done to entice us to his next. In it, a woman who he said he was was his sleeping wife could be heard snoring as he climbs on top of her. Then the clip ends. This is a problem. Like this entire article tells you depraved [ __ ] in it. It even has WOMEN TELLING THEIR STORIES about it. And I think we as a species should all agree it's a problem. But because we got one person who blew this out of proportion, it's devolved into [ __ ] trying to play checks and balances with facts versus fiction. It is not a problem stating that somebody lied in saying that it was 62 million men. It's not 62 million men. the actual number is in the thousands and it's still a problem. It's not an issue. It's not a great atrocity to say that there are thousands of men in a group chat sharing, advocating, giving advice, and promoting and cheering on.

[00:14:50]That's not a problem. That's not an issue to talk about that and call it weird. It should be something where we line up all these [ __ ] and get them ready for the rack and then send them to jail and then await for their arrival in hell. But because one lie carried so much weight, it's now devolved into pointless back and forth for people instead of actually focusing on the real issue. This [ __ ] got 2 million views on Twitter. And guess what? The correction only has 11,000 views. So, this was tweeted out on April 15th. This story came about in March, but this allowed it to gain a lot of traction. So, now you have potentially hundreds of thousands of people believing 62 million men are doing this [ __ ] and only 11,000 only being aware that it's just visits. And mind you, this person who spearheaded this has not made some great grandiose tweet saying, "Hey, this is a correction." that they've just done this. This is all that they've done. And it's led to people running around saying still to this day, 2 days after the fact, even though it's readily available for anybody to see that and realize it's not 62 million men, it's just led them to keep that [ __ ] going and then be argumentative when people who genuinely care point out, hey, one thing about this you got to change. And that's my overall issue with dotting your eyes and crossing your tees is that when you don't do that, you run the risk of blowing something out of proportion and getting people to talk about something else instead of the main subject matter because as I said only a few minutes ago, all of this is very much important and it's concerning. It's weird. I would make the brave hottake that it's a crime.

[00:16:46]And when they got a paper trail like this, you would want a lot of these people, I would make the again controversial hottake in saying everyone who's in this ZZ group chat arrested. I want them arrested. I want them far away from any woman.

[00:17:03]But for some reason, that has to be the second conversation. While people fixate on a 62 million men versus 62 million visits to a website, all stemming from a [ __ ] tweet and a bunch of people on TikTok who want to sensationalize this [ __ ] May we get back to the core subject matter, please, because without that, I fear as though this is just going to be a topic for people and then they going to move on to the next thing.

[00:17:29]Hey, we talking about it now, but nothing's really going to come about it, and then we just gonna move on. It is a failure in actually giving out correct information when you do [ __ ] like this.

[00:17:40]It is a failure to actually pay attention to a real story that has real victims when you sensationalize it to a point that gets people concerned that in America a wide population of men are doing something like this which statistically wouldn't even add up cuz ain't no [ __ ] way they got 62 million men in this country that are all married. [ __ ] They wouldn't be listening to these [ __ ] incel podcasts if that was the case. So on that front, you lose it. But more importantly, you take away from the actual story when you want to sit there and try to be the advocate hero promoting a lie when you can instead promote the truth and stop bitching that you're being corrected. Because in the grand scheme, that's what all this is about. Making sure that the right information is out there. making sure that the right information is being broadcast because the wrong information like for example in the past people faking hate crimes or stories about being assaulted, the wrong information will cause people to not want to engage in a conversation at all. And in a conversation where you got people promoting the idea of violating their partners, I think it's a substantial conversation to have. I think it's an important conversation to have that will be muddied because somebody wanted to say 62 million men. So congratulations, you played yourself again.