When institutions repeatedly fail to preserve crucial evidence, address prior complaints, and protect whistleblowers, public trust erodes significantly, as demonstrated by the Noah Donohoe inquest where missing evidence, ignored warnings, and institutional silence raised serious questions about accountability and transparency.
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NOAH DONOHOE: THE TIDES, THE TUNNEL & THE TRUST GAP追加:
Good morning and welcome to Moth News Live. Oscar's cheer. How you doing, Oscar?
>> I'm fabulous, thank you. And you, Keith?
>> Uh, I'm really great. Al, how are you doing? You good?
>> Happy Friday. Good.
>> You got a noisy >> you got a noisy background, but that's okay. We're fine. We're we're we're live. We're on the hoof. And that's what makes us we're agile. And that's what makes us so good. And that's what makes that's why they can't stop us. Um I believe you're out far and uh we're we're experiencing the very start of a heat wave here in uh on the island of Ireland and the UK I believe as well.
>> It's going to be nice.
>> Is is it noisy here, Keith, for you? cuz I I was in between. Um I got some business stuff I'm doing that I got delayed in transit. But uh it's 30 36 here.
>> 36. Yeah, we're going to get I think it's going up to supposed to get up to 28, maybe 30, maybe 33 people are saying this week.
>> I've called a cold called Micro Brewery Beer next to me, but I I'm I'm sipping it discreetly.
>> Yeah. Good man. Good man. Um I've got a I've got a matcha.
All right. Um, which >> plus I'm a few I'm a few hours ahead of you guys as well, so I can uh >> it's five it's five o'clock somewhere.
>> Okay. All right. Look, I want to start with Noah. Um, and I don't want to We've got a lot on the show today. Actually, before we get into that, we got a We have to talk about We got a pretty good exclusive, I think, for Moth News, and we probably should uh tee it up a little bit. So, we did an interview with a guy called Johnny Vedmore, who's a journalist who's been talking about people like Epstein, uh people like uh um Nicole Yunkerman and all that kind of stuff. And he's written a lot of stuff about Nicole Youngerman. And he's gotten in trouble with Nicole Youngerman where she said, "I don't really know um uh Epstein, but it turns out then when the Epstein files came out, she's mentioned in the Epstein files 4,000 times." So, um, uh, so it it so yeah, he she I think he's supposed to be going to court, uh, and she's bringing a case against, but it looks like that's going to fall apart since the Epstein files came out and she's mentioned in them 4,000 times. So, uh, we've got some interesting information about the Epstein files and the person we've been talking about who's mentioned in the Epstein files and works with Nicole Yunkerman, Alan Murrayman. So, it's quite exciting, guys, and um, it's a big day for mine.
So, uh, let's just kick off with, uh, some Noah Dunu news. Now, um, as you can see, I've got a picture up there. That is the entrance to the culvert that Noah Dunnoo was supposed to have run away, been running away from something. We're not sure. It doesn't seem that clear.
But there, you know, the claim is I don't actually, and I'm going to say it, I don't believe it.
I don't believe he got in there. I don't believe from I'm watch this is my Oscar.
Am I allowed to say this as a journal as a person on you know have an opinion? Am I allowed to I don't believe the findings. I'm I'm I'm watching the >> inquest.
This is my opinion. I'm watching the inquest. I'm listening to everything.
I'm looking at all the transcripts. I'm like this is my life at the moment, right? I do not believe that Noah Dunhoo got in to this storm drain culvert. It's actually a sewer. Let's call it what it is. It's a sewer. There's sewage that goes into this uh sewer and then goes out into Belfast Lock. Okay. I don't believe he got into it. There's a couple of things I want people to look at if they're interested in this. I want you to look at I want you to go back over the uh the stuff that came out this week. So, witness statements from this week, right? We had one member of the PSNI uh giving his witness statement, right?
He is the guy who said he got into the culvert and found Noah's body. Now, unfortunately for the jury um and I believe Noah's mother actually left the court, they had to look at the video footage of Noah's body being discovered in the sewer in the culvert face down uh in in raw sewage, right? Um, and that was I I'd imagine very distressing for everybody, but but you could you could, you know, you could clearly see the bodies there. Um, and they had to put them into a very big plastic evidence bag. Uh, very distressing indeed. And, you know, as we always say, sorry, I just dropped my notes. As we always say, we have to remember that there's a, you know, a boy at, you know, um, in the center of this and a mother and aunties and uncles and cousins and family and friends. Um, what they're trying to tell us is this young boy squeezed in between these bars, got into a sewage system. Now, he didn't just go into the sewage system like just a little bit and then wait till whatever was happening. If he was being chased, was he being chased? Until they moved away. He didn't just go in a little bit.
They want us to believe that it got in here and then continued into this tidal culvert sewage system with the tide coming in and out. I'll talk a little bit about that in a while.
I I spoke to an expert and I cannot and I won't ever reveal my sources. I spoke to an expert, somebody who knows Belfast lock, and he reckons he wouldn't have gotten a couple of hundred meters because of the force of the water.
So, they're trying to have us believe that he waited with the tide coming in, kicking up all this raw sewage, pushing it back against him. He's going to just keep going. He's going to persevere to try and get where?
He's going to come out at the end into the sea. Is that is that his aim? Kid doesn't know where he is.
>> So, they're trying to tell us that he's been in this environment for six days.
Oscar, >> it's like doesn't make sense. He's like not gone in there of his own free will at all. All right. Is my opinion on that one?
>> I don't think he's gone in there at all.
No, >> there's no evidence. There is no evidence. There's this third camera that apparently the PSNI said, "Oh, yeah, we we did look at it on a mobile phone and then I suggested that we get it, you know, we download it and look at it in the office on a bigger screen, but someone must have forgot to do that."
So, we don't have that camera. There's no evidence, no cameras showing him going into the culvert. There's no evidence of him going into the culvert.
They're just saying he went into the culvert, right? So, he's gone into this culvert that has there's raw sewage in there. He's in there for six days. I don't I'm not an expert, but I want people if you're interested in this, have a little look around and do a little bit of research. What kind of damage does raw sewage do to a body? I looked it up. I'm not going to really tell you, but it does a lot of damage very quickly. And I'm not going to tell you because I'm not the expert. Now, the in the inquest, they didn't seem to have an expert to talk about what damage raw sewage would do to a body if it's in there for six days.
Just that's one thing I want you to look at.
The body would have been destroyed.
I know that when Noah's body was lying in the morg in the in the funeral home afterwards, I know from speaking to somebody directly about this, he stank of sewage.
There was a smell of sewage of him.
Okay? So there's no denying that this kid was if he was in this culvert for six days, he was in sewage.
The body came out and it he was very rec he if he was face down sewage, but he was he looked like himself when he came out. Now he deteriorated very quickly within 24 hours, which will tell you a different story.
It would tell me that maybe he was in sewage, but not for that long. And it just but 24 hours later he was in a closed casket. But but but Keith doesn't this uh cooperate where you know the the normal procedure would be pathologist comes in there's nest there's a forensic team they corn off the the area and then they start gathering evidence which is the first data point and my understanding is and this is just from a layman is was the person did the person die in this location? was like is is all of the evidence pointing towards this is where um Noah met his his his fate, right? Do you know what I mean? Like that would be generally you're starting to gather, you know, is there water in his lungs? Is, you know, is there marks around the area? Is there, you know, evidence? Is there you know blood blood stains on different area you know like it's all pointing towards you know the amount of evidence that you should be gathering >> from this would would all point to a conclusion and would be conclusive to say here's here's the evidence to back the time that Noah was in this this this location where the body was found or you know you'd see quite often we have enough evidence to prove or to cause reasonable doubt that Noah's body was moved to this location from some so he died somewhere else. Do you know what I mean? Like just that seems to be lack that's that's the biggest thing for me in terms of what's lacking from the entire inquest that those questions been answered and then obviously you've got the other stuff which is just you know stinks to to to to [ __ ] you know as bad as they were. like like the sewer.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. Right. And and it's like his stuff is going missing. His belongings. He wasn't wearing he was unclothed. He was naked. His cycle pathway didn't make sense. It's an area that he would never end himself in. Generally, he wouldn't be like, you know, if you're if you're getting into a cognitive the cognitive position of somebody who kicks into survival muscle memory.
Generally, you will go, you will try to escape to somewhere that you feel safe to get safety, >> right? You don't escape to somewhere that you're not going to be able to get out of. That goes that's to that's completely counterintuitive to to everybody's natural reaction of survival, right?
>> You also don't escape that.
>> You also don't escape somewhere you've never been before. Right. That's >> there was a field there.
>> Well, that's that's argumentative.
That's could be like there's nowhere like if you're let's just use the the art of war. You're backed into a corner and you're kind of like where the [ __ ] do I go? Do I go left to right? So, if you're backed into a corner, but you certainly don't put yourself into the position that you worsen your you wor you worsen your condition of safety by going into a place like that which is like it's a it's like what's up behind it, Keith? It's it's an end obviously.
You're coming in, you're into a pipe, it stinks. You're jumping into a place that's like nowhere to get out of. But remember now as well, this is coming at it from like, you know, some kind of objectivity or fresh eyes, right? From the beginning of this case, we've been told that he he he got himself into that position, right? That there is no foul play. He wasn't being chased. nothing has happened. So, we're led to believe that all of the sit all of the events leading up to Noah's um fatality, right, was all of his own free will and doing.
>> So, that isn't that the cooperated part, right?
>> Yeah. They're saying he just climbed into it of his own valition. They're not even saying they're not even looking for somebody like who was chasing him if he was if he was running away from something because the only reason he get into something like that also we have to remember Oscar this area for a black Catholic/N from nationalist community young boy you're not going into this estate never mind into a sewer.
>> Yeah. It just doesn't make sense for him to go there like at all from which Yeah, it's a little it's a little community.
People are not welcome. Outsiders are not welcome.
There's there's a a house beside where where his bike was last seen that flies a Confederate flag, >> which like I'd imagine he'd have seen and being like, "Huh, maybe I should not be here." You know, >> he he would have known from growing up in Belfast. He wouldn't know that. He'd never have been there. He'd know not to.
Like you have to understand when you go to Belfast, there's this side of the wall, there's that side of the wall.
This is Nashes that that's you know the Shankill Road. Don't go. Do you know what I mean? There's places you just don't go and you just know it from when you're born. All your friends know it.
You're told not to go. It's just not >> it's just not part of your life.
>> He knows. It's not just cuz he saw a flag, but it's just this is this is the type of person we're talking about.
>> So So what is what is Keith in terms of the inquest? What is the what is their defense for all of that evidence? Or is anybody even is anybody even putting this to them?
>> So, I'll tell you what. Well, I'll tell you one piece of evidence that was given by a member of the PSNI, the guy who got down into the culvert and says he found the body there lying face down between I think it was there's like manhole four and manhole five and there's a bend and they're saying just around there they found him face down. Now, you could argue that someone could have opened the manhole and gone in and placed him in there. You know, that could be that could be something that could happen.
They don't seem to be interested in that. But not only that, but a member of the PSN was a witness and he said, "I he found the body and we're looking at footage of this body being found." Okay, there's there's it's blurry, right? But we're looking at it. And then he says that he saw these finger marks. He put his arm out like this. He said he saw these finger marks along the inside of the walls of the culvert. sort of like like uh embedded in the sewage if you can imagine like it's coated with sewage or al and they're saying and he said he actually said it looked like somebody and and it was the hands of the fingers you know he was he was saying yeah I I'd say it was a young person's hands hands out and it looks like it's a a young person trying to steady themselves right and you're going oh this is interesting >> sorry hang on a sec have you got pictures? No.
Do you have pictures of the Sorry. This kid's been missing for six days, right?
You've gone into this place. You found the body. You've got footage of of finding the body. You got footage of the body in there and already there's conspiracy theories, uh, you know, building and people talking about this happened and this happened and this happened. People are all over the shop about what actually happened. and you've gone in, you found the body, and you forgot to take a photograph of these marks that would surely surely put any uh any doubt about what actually happened to bed and you didn't think it was important to take a photograph. Yes, you remember six years later that this is a very important thing that you need to say in the witness stand. That's absolute [ __ ] And that for me, I think in the inquest, that piece of information should be thrown out. You've no proof. It's just hearsay. and he actually said, "Well, you'll have to take my word for it." Well, actually, based on what we've heard so far in the inquest, we won't be taking your word for it because we don't believe any of this. You are not proving any of this to us. This is like the longer I watched this, the less I believe. And and and this PSNI officer is going, "You have to believe me." What? because you forgot to take a photograph of some really, really vital evidence of finger marks of a young hand on the inside of the culvert the day you found the body, which this kid was six days missing at this point. Like this was like you can imagine like it was the the heat the hot heat of a summer in Belfast. You know, the Nashes community were up in arms.
There was marches. There was searches.
People were not happy. There like there was kids being, you know, knocked off bikes and beaten up for being in the wrong area. this was happening. So there's all sorts of, you know, conversations happening, all sorts of, you know, theories going around and you notice that there was fingerprints and you're a policeman and you're and you forgot to take a photograph. You don't have any footage yet. You had a camera, so you had footage of the body. Please, please give us a break. Then we had I'll I'll finish up on this. I just also want people to look at a professor Roberts took to the stand. She actually called it a sewer. She was the first person to call it a sewer because if you if you look at the language they want to call it a culvert they want to call it a storm drain they don't want to mention sewage and they don't want to mention that it's a sewer but this professor Roberts who is an expert she actually meant called it a sewer now I would look at what professor Robert said about the tiles she's an expert in rivers and and and seems to be an expert in water and tides and all that she talked about the being in the cover for six days that he might have experienced the tide coming and going four or five times So, I'm saying you're not an expert because I looked it up and I'm not I'm I've never worked in this area. 12.
There would have been 12 tides. And I'll tell you this also, Professor Roberts, it was June and I looked at you can look this up. It was June 20th to the 26th in around then.
It was also there was spring tide, which is nothing to do with spring. It's just called a spring tide. And there was a new moon, right? M >> and the new moon will give you higher and faster tides. So that means water is rushing in and rushing back out of this system. And it's done that 12 times a day. Meanwhile, this body is just in there lying there for those six days just and with sewage and just you know just lying there. So so so I also worry and wonder and I think people should do their own this is just all of this stuff is just my opinion. based on what people should do their own investigation into what they think, but she was wrong about the tides and she's the expert. So, what else has she been wrong about?
>> Keith, just on that, like let's say the Noah's body unfortunately had been in the storm drain for those six days and experiences. Yeah.
>> 12 12 tides.
>> If you're saying they're very violent tides, wouldn't he have like there would be marks on his body from him impacting the sides of walls and stuff like that?
>> Yeah. Yep. Yep. And can I tell you another thing, Oscar, on that? Uh, I wasn't going to mention this cuz the um the PSNI officer found the body there.
You see the footage on on Noah's back cuz he's face down. There's sort of a light speckling of you could imagine like speckledly dust.
>> So So he was asked about that and he said, "Oh, that would just be like dust falling down from the roof of the culvert."
>> That doesn't make sense if there's tides rushing in and out.
>> What? What are you talking about? What?
just a gentle sprinkling of dust from this beautiful, you know, culvert with this dust inside and it just No, that's not happening.
Look, don't take our word for it. We're just here to give you the information. I know I've given you my opinion as well, but I'm not buying it. And the more I look into it, the less I the less I believe. Um, so there you go. Look, um, if you have any information on this and you'd like to share it with us and you'd like to come on and talk to us, if you're an expert in storm drains and Belfast lock and any of this kind of stuff, you want to come on unanimously and give us a statement, we will protect your identity and we'd love to hear from you. So, you can contact us for wherever you're watching this, just send us a message and we will get in touch.
Anybody wanted to say anything on that before we wrap it up for Noah for this week?
>> Just my thoughts and prayers to Noah's family.
I mean, it is it's just like it's horrific. It's horrific for the family. Um, okay. We're going to move on to um we're going to move on to our old friend Bobby. Uh, Bobby Dron we called him here on the show. A friend of the show, Al. Um, let's just look at this article from the currency first of all.
Um, so this is from February 25th, 2025.
Bign named Irish investors back. No, we're going to go to the draw the Sorry, we'll leave Job Jobio to letter. Sorry about this, guys. I'm messing up a little bit. Bit here. Um, we're going to talk about this.
So, this is something that happened during the week, Al. Yeah, this is um our friend Bobby Healey uh who owns a company called Mana Air.
So, Mana Air Delivery CEO Bobby Healey uh made a statement about uh moving moving the company to the US. Am I right, Al?
>> Yeah. So, so I guess it was um triggered by the Irish Irish examiner to say, "Hey, what's what's going on with with these guys relocating to uh Tulsa, Oklahoma?"
and uh his uh leadership team, right?
Which would which would would be in line with what we were saying was happening for a while in relation to this guy, right? That there's a leadup to investment state money, you know, backed by Irish um funds and that it's a noticeable move by this guy to relocate his company to another jurisdiction. So then he obviously came out and defending it defended his his uh his corner profusely. Right.
>> Yeah. So he said um so he spoke about uh this uh company Mana Air delivery service and there was issues around where they were delivering and you know the the people in Dublin weren't happy anyway. So, so there's been a lot of investment um in this company and then he came out uh and he this reporter uh Kelloo this website's editor-inchief quoted Mr. is telling this uh symposium in Detroit that he intended to move Mana's manufacturing to Tulsa, Oklahoma, relocating his leadership team next week and is targeting 2,000 to 3,000 jobs in the city over the next few years. We're no longer interested in anywhere else except the USA. Mr. Healey was quoted saying, "We're moving our manufacturing there. My leadership team and myself are moving there. We're heading down next week." And then the Irish examiner contacted Mana for a comment. Um he was referred to a correction published subsequently by dronexl.co.
Um I suppose that'sco.com.
Uh al what's the issue with um what's the issue with mana and why would we be concerned about them moving lockstock and barrel to the US.
>> It's it's the same narrative right? So he it's founder Irish founder puts himself forward Irish Irish wearing the Irish jersey right and criticizing other startups which he's been widely known for doing um criticizing the the the local ecosystem but at the same token taking state funding taking invest taking investment from Irish uh business people and here it is now another situation where the stuff the the benefit the commercial benefit of the business is going to be in a different jurisdiction.
So um he he went on to say after publication Mana Air delivery CEO Bobby Healey contacted Drone XL to clarify that MANA is not closing down its Irish operations or manufacturing. Healey acknowledged that his onstage statements at this uh symposium Detroit could have been clearer on this point. the Tulsa expansion announced that the panel is um is additive to MANA's existing Irish operations rather than a replacement for them, etc., etc. Um so basically, yeah, he he denied. He said he was going to America and then he denied it. But hey, look, look at Moth being all investigated. Check this out.
Check out our investigating ass. This is from this a conversation that happened in a WhatsApp group yesterday. Uh there's Bobby Healey, our old pal. Hello, Bobby.
I hope you're watching. I know you're a big fan.
Uh do you want to take it from here?
>> Roll the kit. You got the you got the you got the go for it.
>> Uh so this is our friend Bobby Healey in a WhatsApp group. This is yesterday. Um advice requested. I'm looking for help on comp for my leadership team uh some of whom are relocating to the USA. If anyone has relocated IE staff to USA, I'd appreciate a chat. Um and every all his pals are rolling in on the WhatsApp group. Same as Bobby. I'd love some steering how to structure it. This these guys speak. Bobby, I moved from Ireland to the US to set up our American office in Florida 10 years ago. Setting up another business in the US now. DM. I'll run through it with you. It's It's Guys, I don't know. I'm not like I'm not an investigative journalist. I'm not like a psychic, but to me, it seems like he's moving to the US.
>> Oscar, you're a journalist.
>> I mean, I'd say like we've got him with red receipts, mate. Like, he's >> got the receipts.
>> They literally have the receipts. I'm not moving to the US. Oh, no. By the way, guys, I'm looking at moving some stuff to the US, which >> I mean, to be fair, like I'm still has advocate here. He in his public statement he has said I'm going to move to the US but I'm not closing down manner uh in no I'm not closing down in the island Ireland but why would you need to relocate so many staff if you were setting up a new office >> yeah wonder does not simply wonder does not simply walk into you know what I mean he's like he's not just like this is not him going as if if it was like a few head heads going out there for a few weeks get a small office whatever we could figure that out pretty easily. Yeah, just go over get an office, start working. You just need the internet and blah blah blah. We're grand.
>> Yeah, but you know, all that stuff, you know. Um or you just get or just hire people in America. But like this is not he's he's this is big. This is this is big. He's doing something big here.
>> Yeah. So So look, this triggered alarm bells in Ireland, right? which is and obviously mana quickly move to clarify cuz yeah I think they've just they've just done a a big round right it's how much is it I have it here somewhere it's 110 million yeah total funding is 110 million there series B was 50 mil right and it triggered in relation to he you know contacted drone XL to say man is not closing down a service operation or manufacturing acknowledging that this onstage statement statement could have been clearer.
Expansion he said is additive to existing Irish operations rather than a replacement. Okay, now let's go back to the messages.
>> I'm looking for help on >> I'm looking for help on my team when I relocate to the US. I mean >> my leadership team this is not like uh some food.
>> Yeah. And this is you know >> this is his so like he's not it's not an additive he's moving the senior team to the US which means what does that mean the expansion to the US is but no one is going to criticize the guy for expanding his business right but it's like this one guy who goes up against startups the whole [ __ ] time right >> Mr. Irish, right? Um, so here we are again. Where's the investigation? Where's the caveats?
Where's the term sheets? Who's looking into this? Who's reporting on it? The Irish Irish Examiner. Fair play to them.
Right. But where's where's our where's our buddy the business? Where's, you know, he he only wrote an article less than 12 months ago, no greater than six months. Bobby Healey can't lose. Right.
just >> this was in the Sunday visibles. Bobby Healey can't lose. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah.
>> Yeah, that's remember that like he didn't use those terms. Exactly. You know, this is the context, right?
>> Oscar, sorry. Um, forgive me, but has Bobby Healey received uh money from Enterprise Island in order to help a startup? So, are we seeing yet another case of public money just going straight over to the US?
We need we need Al's going to look up.
So So the the thing I would point back to is uh we're no longer in this is he was quoted as saying at this symposium we're no longer interested in anywhere else except the USA.
Mana's manufacturing in Tulsa, Oklahoma relocating its leadership team next week and is targeting 2,000 to 3,000 jobs in the city over the next few years. We're moving or manufacturing there. My leadership team and myself, he didn't say some my leadership team and myself are moving there. We're heading down next week.
>> And and then he denied it, but then we see he's like he's he's on he's on the he's on the WhatsApp looking for advice from his pals. If anybody has any moved to the US lock, stock bar. Um so yeah, >> just just answer the question. So 1 million uh Enterprise Ireland. Um so the European Commission state aid register which is the Irish um enterprise fund for 1 million.
Beyond that figure EHI has been a recurring equity invest across multiple rounds confirmed in the 30 million round in March 2025 and then again in the 50 million series B in April 2026 but the individual ticket size are not publicly disclosed.
>> 1 million figure from the state register is the only concrete number. However, in short, Enterprise Ireland is has invested money in MANA and they've put their names on the series B press release which just which just happened.
The awkward subplot is as mentioned is that AI co-signed the proud Irish company narrative on April 1st and then six weeks later Healey was on stage in in Detroit saying he's moving everything to Tulsa which it is not a great look in receipt of the state report. This is our agent journal by the ways guys just just so you know.
>> Yeah. So just again public money just being shifted over to the states.
>> So I'm assuming Charlie Taylor in current time lines will have a headline uh publication >> be all over it.
>> It'll be all over. They'll be saying Bobby Healey takes state money and moves the moves the operation out of Ireland.
The proud Irish company Bobby Healey is taking 50 million to buy new white sneakers.
>> Are you talking about the Sunday [ __ ] post? Um >> uh >> the BS the BS post >> but I like I just >> I just think uh okay what's the purpose of Enterprise Ireland? Now somebody's watching this going what's this all about? This is nothing to do with me.
This is just business people doing business [ __ ] right? But Enterprise Ireland is a government organization which takes taxpayers money and invests in startups. And I presume, Al, the idea behind behind Enterprise Ireland is to invest in startups to invest the money to get some of that money back or to at least keep the money keep the organization in Ireland.
>> Keith, I can tell you categorically we raised money from Enterprise Ireland and we put the proud Irish company card.
We went to all the ministerial meetings.
We had a minister, local minister and ambassador open our San Francisco office, our New York New York office which was in World Trade Center. And when we were asked to move HQ and the founding and senior management team to the US, we said, "Fuck off." And you saw what happened to us. That's a fact. We were asked and >> why would you be asked to move and why are they why are they moving?
>> Because that's money. That's that's supposed I didn't know that's supposed to be a deal. And I said, "No, we had, you know, our core team nearly 100 people based in Ireland. We did all of our conferences, all of our off sites in Cork. We had the entire shareholder group, investors, potential investors come down to Fort Island Resort in Cork, hang out in Bali Maloo House. Everything was based around that event and conference. So I can speak to this. This is just [ __ ] again. And why is nobody talking about this?
>> Yeah. One of the uh one of the official lines of Enterprise Ireland is strengthening the Irish economy through indigenous enterprise.
I think we might be confused about what they're trying to fund the >> But let's just let's step back again to just demonstrate the character we're dealing with. Came out and said I am not doing this. We have source that has said to us who's clearly pissed off that he's done that and lied. So somebody that he thinks is in a a trusted conversation feels he can do whatever the [ __ ] he wants. um has proven that you know within the same beat he's asking people for advice in relocating this team for [ __ ] sake it's just ridiculous >> I mean where's Enterprise Ireland's where's Enterprise Ireland's comments on this right >> you know >> yeah and we have more from uh we have more Enterprise Ireland news coming soon was there anything else on that Al we wanted to >> uh just Oscar put in a freedom put in a wonderful freedom freedom of information request because they always respond to you very quickly and asked them categorically to to confirm how much Enterprise Ireland invested in the series be around for mana in just in in in re in literally last month and let's get >> a month ago >> a month to you on that in like what was the last one three months >> yeah we'll wait we'll wait we have time the so so April he got a lot this company got taxpayers money and now he's leaving for the US. It just it's odd.
>> It's very ethical, very great.
>> Um, okay. So, on a similar in a similar vein, uh, we want to talk about uh, Jobio.
We want to talk about Jobio. We want to talk about Alan Merryman. We don't want to talk about Elkstone. We want to talk about Enterprise Ireland. And we want to talk about AIB. First of all, I just want to play this clip because I spoke to a friend of the show, Johnny Vedmore.
Johnny is an excellent journalist. Um, very interesting guy, has done a lot of work on a a woman called Nicole Youngerman, who we've spoke about before. Now, Nicole Youngerman, uh, is in the Epstein files 4,000 times, right? She's very, very close to Jeffrey Epstein. At one point, Oscar, she asked Jeffrey Epstein to do what?
>> Put a baby in me. put a baby >> in her. No, in in her. Yeah.
>> Yes. I don't She didn't say, "Can you put a baby in Oscar?" That didn't happen. But some would believe that they have had children together. I don't know. I haven't confirmed that. Anyway, they're very, very close. Uh Johnny has been working and investigating uh Nicole Yunkman for a long time. Our interest in Nicole Yunkerman started because Oscar, you discovered it might have been you discovered.
>> Yeah. Alan chain with Alan Marryman. uh Nicole Youngerman and then I was like, "Ah, I wonder who this person is." I was like saw the Nicole asking Epstein to put a baby in her and you can kind of build off that and like see there's a close personal connection and then you're thinking of like an island connection because it keeps mentioning the banker i.e. Maryman like this connect the dots.
>> Yeah. Um, so, uh, Alan Marman is, uh, works and and we've seen this, we've talked about it on the show and he's he was very open about it, how he is, uh, he works for Nicole Yunkerman. So, this is me talking to Johnny Vmore. Just a little clip, just a teaser. We will have more from Johnny Vmore at the end of the show about uh, Yunkerman, uh, Epstein and Ireland. But just I just want to play this clip first of all just to tee us up because we are going to talk about Jobio uh who um also got money from Enterprise Ireland.
Like you Johnny, what we like to do on Ma News is we just like to get the information out there. We're not trying to beat anybody over the head with it.
We're not trying to necessarily give you our opinions. We're just trying to say look at this stuff. What do you think?
So tell me about Nicole Yunkman and why we should be concerned that a man called Alan Marman from Ireland was working with her in >> indeed. And um and um just to note Montilla International which was one of the companies that she used to um invest in Irish projects including uh Jobio and Spoon Guru and other things and Cigarat itself. Uh they're listed at Elkstone Private Advisers Limited. So their their main company is listed at Elkstone as well. Um so Nicole Yunkerman I So he goes on then to he goes on then to talk about Nicole Younman and we'll play the rest of that chunk of that interview. It's a two-part interview.
You can watch it all live on our YouTube channel at the moment, but we'll play another 20 minutes of it later. Now uh he did mention Jabio um and I'll just show this briefly but he mentioned Montillaa International Corporation. Okay so this is Nicole Junkerman's fund managed by Alan Marryman and Elkstone. Okay these are the Jobio shareholders we see here we've got AIB seed capital fund limited partnership. We have Enterprise Ireland and you can see the percentage is almost 5%. Uh we can see AIB uh almost 8% and then Montilla are up at 15%. What do we uh what do we call what is jobio? A it's a job um it's a job site basically al >> yeah it's a platform like if you think of Indeed right um similar to that and and and guys like again this is a big failing on the mainstream media behalf which is the the evidence that points towards um these platforms being used to uh target vulnerable people looking for careers you know in terms of trafficking the that there is a a a plethora of links between these kind of this is the hunting ground for these kind of people that are looking to traffic. You know, it's like fake all pair jobs, fake model jobs, you know, like they put up um you know, essentially advertisements for a certain profile or persona people apply for the job. They go to these interviews and create it and then it's like they're trafficked, right? This is this is this is evidencebacked. This is not like hypothetical, right? And then you've got like like literally the largest network that we're aware of and I'm sure there are many of somebody that's heavily involved integrated moving the money significant shareholder has co-invested with the fund that we've been highlighting for how long in this show we had a technology that was addressing human trafficking in our company this board observer it's nowhere and there is not one person speaking about this again nor has it investigated and we've got somebody independent drilling into this that's mentioned yes your guy Alan Merryman is all over this right so this isn't just like oh the company's gone wrong and then you know we're going to put up an evidence that John Healey was involved with the restructure of this company which is the same liquidator as Alada same liquidator that's involved in the wedding group uh Wedings holdings same liquidator right that's worked with Alan Merryman and Jeff Leo and I'm not saying Jeff Leo is involved in this directly but he is involved with that in Maryland and we know that right um and now these guys are also nobody's speaking about it these guys are also heavily involved in IP pass centers and what do I pass centers do they bring in people that are vulnerable to take care of them and protect them and we're supposed to sit back and say oh these are all just really random co coincidences >> they're very random there definitely not something somebody profiting off this definitely not somebody may be trafficking people as a result of this.
Definitely not. It's just perfect coincidence, isn't it?
>> Um, it's it's crazy. It's too crazy.
It's too crazy for my little tiny mind.
>> But then but then he take the sinister part which we're going to speak to now.
So it's gone into a restructured liquidator put in no no front page articles or pictures of the founders.
Nobody delving into personal life.
Nobody del into their kids' lives.
Nobody disclosing where the kids go to school. There isn't 122 page art 122 articles written about the founders.
It's just rebranded. They repointed the social media platform LinkedIn to the new company and just moved on. That's it.
>> Yeah. If we go back to February 25th, 2025, bigname Irish investors backed Jobio, but now it needs rescuing. um a job search platform raised over 16 million from backers but a difficult few years now sees it entering SCARP to find a new rescue plan. Then we go to April 23rd 2026. A year ago, Job Bio had a rescue plan. Now it's calling in a liquidator. uh the recruitment platform backed by uh JU Michael Smurfett entered Scarp last year to restructure the business uh with its most recent account showing um retained losses of 30 almost 38 million and it's set to appoint a liquidator. Who's that liquidator you might ask?
>> Yeah, surprise surprise. Now just put in in in in context in terms of portion Alada's losses in our statement of affairs even though it's been blown up completely inaccurately was 5 million circ million this is seven times the losses they went into a process moved in the same liquidator came out the other side added a new branding there's no conversation h or narrative around what was actually the events leading up to that. And here we are again, Mr. Dodgy himself here.
>> It's also kind of crazy that you're not seeing loads of headlines about the Jobio founders considering what happened to you outside of >> like you're not seeing any headlines about them and like character.
>> It's just ridiculous.
if it's >> um yeah, if we look at this uh just to bring Alan Marman's name back in because obviously um our friend Johnny was talking with Alan Marman and that link between Nicole Yunkman and Alan Marman and if you see here Alan is co-founder and served as CEO and member of venture uh team at Elkstone Partners blah blah blah. He was formerly finance director at EBS bank. Do you remember the crash guys? Do you remember um remember all those people lost their homes? there's all those evictions and all that kind of stuff and yeah he was very much involved in that um and the senior partner at PWC he serves as a board of dire sorry that's the mana drone delivery as well so so we've got so we've got him involved in uh mana drone delivery which is moving to America and then this is the ven diagram these are the bits that were joining together uh and and also if we look at this um so we go back then we we got him involved in manu which is moving to America. Uh also Enterprise Ireland involved in Mana. And then we go back to this Jobio shareholders and we see Montilla International Corporation. Nicol Yonman fund which is managed by Alan Marman and Elkstone also AIB have invested also enterprise Ireland have invested. So two examples right here. One job you're going into liquidation 37 million. But listen guys, that doesn't seem to be the case because check this out. own Reynolds, head of marketing at Ampley and Jabio.
What's all this about? So actually he he does it's not Jobio, he works at Ampley.
Um responsible for all elements of Amply and Jabio's marketing, head of marketing full-time for eight years. Have they changed names? But how how would they how would they how is it that they were able to move the company from a state of liquidation just rebrand it keep re retain the name and just move on.
I really don't I genuinely all I'm confused about what's going on here and I don't I'm not just saying that. I'm like what's actually happening if if you could tell so so if we look at a >> by by the way by the way it accidentally there's another link which I wasn't aware of. Do you see the the previous company carroller that was Bobby Healey's original company >> oh on his on his LinkedIn profile.
>> Oh >> fact yeah Carroller. Yeah.
>> Carroller.
>> Is that another company that that >> That's where Bobby Healey start. That's where Bobby Healey started. Yeah.
>> Oh, so that's Bobby Healey. And then we've got So we've got Bobby Healey from Mana and then we've got uh head of marketing for Amply formerly or still Jobio. We're not really sure. This guy own Reynolds. Interesting. Um wow. This is interesting. So, so Al if you could explain to me like genuinely because I don't know like who would have were Jobio like a genuine startup company where somebody said oh I want to start a new type of recruitment company Irishowned Irish brand or whatever and then and then Alan Murrayman brought these people together Enterprise Ireland if so you have the Quinn brothers right they started they obviously they're the Quinn brothers they they but like they're nowhere it's like why Why why why are they not being pulled through the coals as as being the the captains the co- captains of a failure right um you can see they're equal shareholding so then they would obviously went on the capital raise and what we what would be very interesting is is Bobby Healey invested in there is he in there also right and then you've got the enterprise Ireland connection you've got obviously younger man connection connection AIB connection so it's all formuling formulating up into the um Ponzi scheme, right?
So I just don't and and also now we're looking at like I'm talking about this.
I don't necessar I'm not the Sunday business post, you know, we're this is moth news. We don't know anything about this, but this is not being talked about.
This is the Sunday business post. It's supposed to be the business newspaper of note in this country and they're not able they don't have they're are they stupid that they just can't Oscar tell me you're a journalist.
>> This is this is this is a home run for this is a homer >> for a journalist. Again, when you're looking at what when you have large news organizations who may be invested by certain individuals or certain groups will choose not to publish certain stories because it would negatively impact the groups that invest in them. I think this may be or collaborate with them. I think this may be one of those cases >> where again mainstream media is great sometimes because you've got the weight of the name but also you don't really know who's behind that name. And if we were cynical, we could maybe look at maybe other organizations, well, Elkstone, I suppose, but other organizations owned by these individuals and people taking out all, as you say, in your in your monster way advertisements in these publications, you know? Uh, is that kind of could we be cynical and think like you can't you don't, you know, don't bite the hand that feeds you kind of thing? Is it is it as simple as that?
or as Bob uh Johnny that we spoke to and you can see that full interview on YouTube talks about is the the people who own the newspapers aren't the people you think own the newspapers and own the mainstream media.
>> H >> it's it's very obvious. It's a, you know, as you said, my my cork uh dialect, it's advvertorial, right?
There's no one, there's no longer editors. There's no longer objectivity.
There's no longer um u unbiased uh journalists. So, basically, this is an ev this is evidence of that. So, you've got like as you said, you've got two smoking guns, right? You've got Bobby Healey just lying. That's it. like he's just received significant funding series B by Irish not by Irish lying out out exit stage left you've got a fundamental figure right a substantial significant fi figure in Ireland heavily involved in public money venture investment startups collaboration is a board observer mana was a board observer board observer in Alada is is heavenly involved in the Epstein files and here we are another company just going back out the other side rebranded moving on and and complete or marta that's that's that's the facts >> itself >> and nobody's talking about it >> and and and the same liquidator involved and the same investors involved and the same narrative let's go in crash the company move it out the other side strip the assets restructure nobody's sitting there saying wait a Where where's the 30 million the circuit 37.9 million gone? Where's like what are you talking about?
>> And and yeah and the and the and the the crux of it is for me like because people will say well I don't care if a business loses money or if you know if a startup fails or you know they get they get taken down what's what how's it going to affect me? But where does Enterprise Ireland get its money from? Enterprise Ireland gamles your money or it doesn't even gamble because it seems to me like Oscar, you've gotten the you you got the Freedom of Information from Enterprise Ireland. I it doesn't look like they want to they're concerned with making any of our taxpayer money back. I'm not sure. And then it's not like they're they're not investing in Ireland because all of these companies are being sold off to America or leaving. They're not staying in Ireland. They're not creating employment. It's not what they're not doing what they're supposed to do.
>> I think when we last looked into it and we had like a full like, okay, let's recap of how many businesses we've seen this happened to, it was at least five or six multi-million dollar uh and multi-million euro businesses just get collapsed and moved to the states. Alard was the first one, then Joio. Um, now we're having probably Healey's company as well. Like it's >> Yeah. And we've got the What was the one with the the food technology? Oh, Synoptica. No, >> was it Synoptica, Al? The ones that were still sort of they're they're in they're in the like the the founders of that.
They're in the [ __ ] at the moment. Like they're in it. They're trying to they're like trying fighting for survival at this stage, you know, and they're and they're being taken down.
>> They're probably in a room. They're in a room somewhere being told.
>> Sorry. Go on.
>> That's swept under the rug again. That's like just take the deal. That's it. M.
>> So they're in the room somewhere now being told to take a deal with the devil like you were.
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. And we're talking about people who have, you know, given up, you know, 5 10 years their lives, um, you know, come out of university with excellent qualifications. Some of the brightest minds in the country coming up with these, you know, really brilliant startups in Ireland, getting investment from enterprise Ireland and and then being taken down.
>> Well, if you just if you just if you just speak to the frustration. Okay. So the frustrating part is that the underlining innovation the IP and and often the engineering part right will or may or may not stay in Ireland but the the value capture moves right which means that basically essentially when the market infrastructure moves the talent and the ambition moves into another location which means the Irish founders either end up leaving or being exported somewhere else Right.
>> M >> so what like why why is Enterprise Ireland not doing anything to slow that drift where they're trying to compete or trying to build in something where Ireland is getting the the secondary benefit the generation benefit of indigenous companies building. So if you look at the stats and maybe this is one of the topics that we start drilling into right which is of all of the innovation that's been funded bang for buck putting you know put 1 million in company ends up being restructured moves to another location what is that actual loss translate to it's not just that company it's the suppliers the ecosystem so now if if you put that onto a different scale it's like if That's 100 companies, 200 companies. It you're just you're just putting money into a bottomless [ __ ] pit.
>> Yeah. So, there we have it. Uh between um so if we look at this, we're looking at Jabio shareholder. We've got Mantilla International Corporation with Nicole Yunkman, Alan Murrayman, Elkstone managing that fund. And then we've got Alan Murrayman involved in uh Mana drone delivery. And both those companies either one says he's not, but looks like they're hightailing it out of here and moving to the US and the other's just rebranded itself uh and lost 37 million then just becoming a different company.
Actually don't understand what's going on there. But but there you have it. And we will, you know, we'll continue to bring you more on this story. Enterprise Ireland, our disastrous startup situation, and people like Alan Marman who are not here uh to do the right thing for for Ireland as a country. Um I I really don't know what where he's at. He's a bad man. Um, we will be playing more of So, if you're interested in the Nicole Yunkam and Alan Merryman uh story and the Epstein files and Irish connections, we'll be playing just at the end of this as after Oscar's uh piece. We'll be playing 20 more minutes of that interview with Johnny Verdman, the investigative reporter, and it's really really great. So, don't miss that. Oscar, over to you. All right, guys. I want to talk about something that we kind of see happening over and over again, not just in Ireland, but across Britain, Northern Ireland. And every single time it happens, we get called told the exact same thing. This was an isolated incident. We have a few bad apples. There is nothing systemic.
Please move along. But at some point, if you keep finding rotten apples in every basket, you should start maybe questioning what's going on within the orchard. The things I'm talking about here is relevant because this week in Ireland, former guarder Paul Moody received a further prison sentence for coercive control and harassment of another woman. Years of abuse, harassment, surveillance, psychological control, the kind of behavior that leaves somebody constantly looking over their shoulder the rest of their life and leaving them with an unprecedented amount of trauma. But the bit that really stood out to me wasn't that the sentencing itself. Not the fact we're seeing somebody who's a police officer meant to uh protect the community. It was the fact that it was the victim saying she first went to the GO GSOC or the guard ombbudsman back in 2017 and felt she was met with silence. She had said earlier intervention might have prevented harm to another woman. And that's the point where the story stops being just about one abuse of exgarder.
It starts becoming on the story of once institutions are warned and once complaints exist, once oversight bodies know their allegations, the question changes. It becomes who is responsible if nothing happens afterwards. And this isn't even one isolated guard a story anymore. Over the last few years, Ireland has repeatedly seen allegations involving guardi and around domestic abuse, coercive control, harassment, misuse of police systems, and constitutional failures. You have detective uh Trevor Bulga accused of assaulting his ex-wife himself, a former herself a former guarder. Reports around that case raised questions about alleged access to poll systems, officers being sent to her house during investigations, delays lasting years, and criticism over why an officer under investigation was still allowed to retain certain policing powers. I'm just going to repeat that bit again. An officer under investigation for assaulting his wife who is also a police officer is still allowed to retain certain policing powers. You've had guarder whistleblowers openly describing cultures of bullying, retaliation, and silence within the organization. Former members saying women inside the force still face sexism, harassment, and fear career consequences for reporting misc uh reporting misconduct. You have the emergency call handling scandal where thousands of calls including domestic violence related calls were allegedly cancelled or mishandled again. So these are people calling guard saying, "Hi, I'm fearing I'm a victim of domestic violence or I'm fearing abuse and the call is canled or mishandled." When vulnerable people ask the system for help, can they actually trust the response? And that's before you even get into the broader issue of how coercive control cases are handled in Ireland generally because campaigners and support organizations have spent years warning that coercive control is still misunderstood institutionally despite now being a criminal offense. And now my first question is for you and this is the thing I keep coming back to here.
Every single policing scandal now follows the same script that you can read like the headlines are always pretty much the same. The public gets told there's no wider issue. Then six months later, we find out there were prior complaints or several years, warning signs, internal or concerns, reports being ignored, and investigations delayed. At what point do you feel bad apples stops being believable?
>> Is that a question for for me?
>> For Al. Sorry.
>> Well, for me, sorry. Oscar. No.
Who are the bad apples? The cops.
>> Yeah, 100%.
>> Few bad apples. Because they do say >> they do say like um you know to h to like within the police force within army they need men who are combative who are like you know high uh testosterone you know aggression you know you need a bit of that as well you know. So, it's kind of like there is a little bit of an acceptance of a few bad apples. We've all seen the cop shows, you know, he doesn't get on with his wife. He drinks too much, but he gets the [ __ ] job done.
>> Yes. But >> I'm not I'm not excusing. I'm just saying like, no, there's no excuse.
Absolutely no. I'm just saying there's I'm just talking about a narrative, you know.
>> Yeah. I I don't entirely agree with that in terms of I mean it's like is that we're being portrayed it's being portrayed that way because there's a single percentage of just [ __ ] and like you know regardless of whether they put on a uniform or not or do any other [ __ ] job that requires somebody to be masculine they're just [ __ ] there'll be a bigger [ __ ] in the uniform, you know, and maybe that's the I think I think it's kind of the the only remedy really is like these guys need to start [ __ ] really like flushing these guys out, you know, to be honest. Like as as as a you know, a man-to-man scenario or man to person or whatever. It's like, you know, this behavior is just not acceptable regardless of who you are, what you do.
That's that's kind of where I think society needs to pivot to the point of zero [ __ ] tolerance, you know.
>> Yeah. And just on that point of zero tolerance, I want to talk about like wider police forces in general here because we're not only looking at Ireland. Keith, I believe you recently reported this over in Northern Ireland.
You had the PS and I Katy Simpson case where a young man was killed initially treated as a suicide and later the independent investigation uh reveals it's a murder and they literally use the phrase institutional misogyny. It found officers failed to seriously consider coercive control or abuse dynamics. One line from the report basically says not one officer properly considered abuse and control as a factor. And if we're thinking about this, this was in 20 to 26. So this is very recent. We now talk about we talk about as a society coercive control publicly, awareness campaigns, Netflix documentaries, government messaging. Yet police forces are still repeatedly accused of the exact same patterns. And then if you want more recent evidence, we've got the Met Police and Sarah Everard because Se Sarah Everard fundamentally changed the way this uh conversation happens across the islands. Wayne Cousins wasn't just some random guy. He was a serving police officer. And after the murder, more and more reports emerged about warning signs, allegations, concerns, indecent exposure reports, colleagues allegedly calling this man the rapist. And somehow this man still remained a police officer with powers, a warrant card, and institutional credibility. And that's what Baroness uh review into the Met, which later concluded the Metropolan police was institutionally sexist, racist, and homophobic. Institutionally sexist. So not seeing a few bad officers or a few bad apples. were seeing the orchard is rotten institutionally and suddenly the public conversation has now changed because the question stopped being how did one monster get through recruitment and what kind of institutional culture protects or ignores people like this and if we keep going back to this phrase of a few bad apples we should about to be saying this entire orchard is rotten and honestly if we continue with metaphors here women are reporting abuse inside Irish policing systems are starting to look lost a lot less like canaries in a coal mine And a lot more like the problem is the canary has been screaming blue murder for years about coercive control, harassment and misogyny and institutional silence. And too often it feels like the institution inside is just choking out that bird instead of dealing with the gas because again once we're seeing these signs they're just we're just seeing them close ranks. But but didn't we cover this often in indirectly which is so there's a fundamental where this is again another let's divide let's divide and conquer get everybody hating the police force even if there's you know there's there's good and bad everywhere but go back to our point in the last number of months whistleblowers so somebody comes out and says hey I don't like that person these guys are doing this the whistleblower then is blown off the [ __ ] map because there's no structure inside to protect them say so like what happens In add situation, it's not just a bad apple, right? Using using the the the metaphor, right? It's the bad apple that the other good apples are trying to get the bad apple out and the good apples are then called the [ __ ] whistleblowers and then they're targeted.
>> They end up losing their job. So then it's like the small percentage of bad guys are getting protected by [ __ ] process.
>> You don't tell on your you don't tell on your own. Isn't that the the the law, the rule?
>> What is it? Well, the snitches get snitches is the the thing that used to be in school, right? Like, you know, it's like >> and that's like a wider point I want to build to is like it's so hard to like if a police officer is convict uh of is accused of a crime, it's so hard to get other police officers to turn on them.
And it shouldn't work like that. They should be held to a higher standard because they are the people who are meant to protect people. Like why is there not stronger defenses for whistleblowers like anonymous reporting etc. Like it's um like this is the point I'm going to keep coming back to. Why do we still letting police forces close ranks over and over again and like in several cases that I've just described like retaining policing powers whilst being accused of abuse? How is that a fair society? How is that a just society? And like I don't want to try and sound like anti police. I'm not.
Police are very important. We need them to keep people safe. But who polices the police and who keeps them safe from each other at this point?
>> Well, the the Holy Mary and the Donkey, what was the what was the nor the the guy who's from Northern Ireland and he was it was the what's the TV show where the they were investigating the cops.
Um, and your man had a Northern Irish accent. Anybody? Am I on my own here?
>> I think you're going to be the wrong generation of TV for me.
>> No, it's on. It's it's it's new. They're going to make a new series. I'm going I'll find out you you continue.
>> No, no horses. No, no.
>> And I again I just want to do this is just on the other side because try and make this balanced.
>> If we look at what the Casey review into the Met pushed for, it was stronger internal accountability, better handling of domestic abuse complaints involving officers, cultural reform around sexism and misogyny, clearer misconduct thresholds, removing officers faster where serious concerns exist. And if we look back to Northern Ireland, the Katie Simpson review recommended mandatory course of control training, specialist domestic abuse investigation approaches, better recognition of manipulation and power dynamics, and improved victim safeguarding with more external oversight.
And honestly, these recommendations are fine, but yet again, we're seeing the same headlines where these are the recommendations coming out and nothing's being acted on. So, I'm not saying this headline is going to happen again because I really, really hope it doesn't. But I would ask you to look through the next headline you see when a police officer, be it guarder, be it Met Police, be it PSNI, is accused of sexual assault. Read through that report and see if again you're seeing early warning signs that were dismissed. And maybe the question really should be here is how many warning signs does a police institution believe institution repeatedly miss before the public stops believing these failures are accidental?
And if women are repeatedly saying they were ignored, silenced or failed by systems that's designed to protect them and then eventually this stops being a story about individual officers, it starts becoming a story about institutional accountability itself. And once the public starts asking who polices the police, this is becoming a very difficult question that we should not be ignoring.
>> Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and the we donkey.
>> What?
>> Line of duty. Adrien Dunar line of duty.
Oh my god. Oscar, you need to watch Line of Duty. They're They're the They're the cop cops.
They're the police. Police.
>> I thought I I thought I thought you on a guard patrol. Do you remember that? Have you seen this? Have you seen this tractor? We're missing a drill from a >> two cows were taken from Two cows were taken from this field at 4:00 yesterday.
Uh some a man was seen shoving them into the back of a of a brown fiesta.
Sorry, Oscar. Anyway, we're not we This is bad. This is bad. I think it's just because we've been the show's been so long and now we're getting a bit giddy.
Carry on, Oscar. Sorry.
>> No, that that was it. That was my close.
Um yeah, >> but Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and the We Donkey Adrien Dunar's character's punchline. He plays this Northern Irish cop who is part of uh So, Line of Duty is an excellent series. We should watch it. I do believe there's a new season coming out. Not like we're sponsored by them or anything. We're sponsored by Enterprise Ireland. Enterprise Ireland for all your enterprising needs. Need to move to America with your business? We'll give you the money to do so. Um, so thanks Oscar and sorry for not for being a bit jokey about something so serious.
>> Yeah, I I don't I don't seem able to get it back. I'm sorry, Oscar.
>> That's all right.
>> Um, when I >> I think you're right. I think you're right though, Keith, cuz it's kind of like it is like I know it's tongue and cheek. We don't mean to be disrespectful, but it is farical if think of there there's a process where there people are getting sick of a certain element in in um law enforcement. Yet, if you go against the people that are causing the problems in law enforcement, you call the whistleblower and you get [ __ ] f you get [ __ ] blown off the map. So like it is last and look listen it's the same with like if you look at like we're we're talking with this continuously journalists same [ __ ] thing they're bullies they're going around bullying people they write stuff all the time they write articles about people that they fe they feel like u they target somebody and then when there's actual news to report upon their editors support them and not [ __ ] bother doing it. So this is this is becoming [ __ ] pandemic.
Yeah, it's definitely systemic and I do think that um we it might be an interesting thing for you to look at Ostra the history of whistleblowers in Ireland as in like how whistleblowers are treated in Ireland as a follow on from that and I I can definitely give you some people to talk to to interview as well. I I think the treatment of whistleblowers in Ireland, I think that we are naturally a nation that should encourage whistleblowing and I mean we we talked about before all it's even the term whistleblowers. Shouldn't we they should be called legends, you know, and they should be they should be truth tellers and they should be encouraged, you know, >> you know what they used to be called as well, you know, like a genuine good whistleblower, be a journalist, you know, reporting about something from the inside, but now they're just absolutely terrible and bought out by >> [ __ ] banned that b that word banned.
Seriously.
>> Yes, we're banning it. Truth tellers.
Yeah. Are we banning the word journalist as well?
>> Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, okay. Listen, thanks very much, Oscar, for that. And, uh, we will maybe maybe look into the the idea of doing something on Irish whistleblowers and how we how they've been treated. There's some shocking shocking stories of Irish whistleblowers and their treatment down through the years. Uh, okay, we're gonna I just want to play this again. This is our friend um Johnny Vmore. Um, I just wanted to take a look at this. So, this is Johnny. I asked him about Alan Marman and Nicole uh Yunkman just have a you Johnny. What we like to do on Moth News is we just like to get the information out there. We're not trying to beat anybody over the head with it. We're not trying to necessarily give you our opinions. We're just trying to say look at this stuff. What do you think? So tell me about Nicole Yunkman and why we should be concerned that a man called Alan Marman from Ireland was working with her in >> indeed. And um and um just to note, Montilla International, which was one of the companies that she used to um invest in Irish projects including uh Jobio and Spoon Guru and other things. Uh and Ziggrat itself, uh they're listed at Elkstone Private Advisor Limited. So their their main company is listed at Elkstone as well. Um so Nicole Yunkerman, I had Uh yeah. So that's what we played earlier and that's just telling us who Alan Marman is and who Nicole Yunkman and what their relationship is. Do you want to read out a couple of uh comments there Oscar or >> So yeah, I just want to go through these and they mainly relating to the Noah case. So this is I'm in no way saying these are completely true. This is just reading out I thought people should know about.
>> Yeah. So say if Assange said the house that also flies the biggest Union Jacks um you'd see is also flying the Confederate flags. And then we also see there's from Irene there's no evidence of any rats etc. As terrible as it seems that may have interfered with Noah's body if he'd been left there which makes a lot of sense if he was left in a storm drain. That's where rats would be. But there's no indication that his body was desecrated by rats. M um >> and can I just say on that point some people are saying oh there was no water because it was dry it was June blah blah blah and then other people well then there would have been rats so it's one or the other do you know what I mean pick your pick aside also have a if you're saying there's any carry on sorry >> yeah and then as I was going on to somebody says the water the tide only goes up to that tunnel so far as it was June 2020 hot no rain snow water but then you would still see a lot of rats but if we're going on your analysis Keith there was would have been water I'm pretty sure rats still go in water as well like >> oh Yeah, they got water ass. But but if you look at the lift of the tide, three and a half meters, like it was a big tide. There was a new moon, spring tide, new moon, big tides, fast flowing water.
Definitely there was water going into that. Like >> do your research.
>> Yeah. And then one of the last few comments, diet testing would have been irrelevant in this case is water from the Lao >> the lock the lock the lake basically.
like, okay, would have entered his lungs even if he'd been drowned in someplace else, which is true. Yeah, if you're drowned somewhere else, you'd still have water in your lungs and then like you can do different tests.
My medical knowledge isn't that great.
Um, and then we're seeing that there were screams allegedly reported. I'm not sure how much that would be truthful, but >> yeah. No, there was there was screams heard, you know, at um after he's supposed to have gone into the culvert.
There was there was seven different witnesses uh reported on screaming from the area um after he was supposed to have gone into that sewer/storm drain.
>> And was that investigated at all?
Of course not. No, because the PSNI are so great.
>> Just just screaming could have been foxes. Blah blah blah.
>> And last comment is the fact that his boxes were last seen sitting like they'd been stepped out of beside a wall then reported in inquest. This is but boxes were found with his body. Interesting.
>> Yeah, not not not much of it really adds up. Thanks very much for that, Oscar.
Uh, thank you very much. Uh, we'll let you go and u get on with your busy day.
Um, Oscar, thank you very much as always. Thank you very much for watching. We're going to leave you with this. It's about 20 minutes long. very interesting conversation about um Ireland, Epstein, Epstein doing business in Ireland, Nicole Yunkman, Alam Mariam and Elkstone uh with our journalist friend Johnny Vedmmer, our Bachetti Peri family. Um and she marries him. Uh and um then she enters into this world where she is investing in all of these companies including things like Jobio and SP Spoon Guru, but everything from Dollar Shave Club um to other tech companies like Swarm, which was a satellite array company that eventually got sold off to SpaceX and she got part of um uh shares in SpaceX, too. But she was also involved in something called Carbine 911 which was invested in by Peter Teal, Jeffrey Epstein herself and the 10th prime minister of Israel, Ahood Barack. And Carbine 911 was a plug-and-play operating system that would probably use a Palunteer like data um uh format to uh get data for a private security firm that would act between the people and the police or the people and uh hospitals. If you wanted to phone 999 or 911 in the future, you'd call up and you're going to get some AI bot for car by 911 who will send a drone instantly to check out what you're talking about and then they'll decide whether they get an actual person who's probably private police in the future to come to your area and check it out. They can they will have be allowed they claimed they would be allowed access to all of the cameras in the area. All of the cameras on people's houses in cars to work out the location of where events were and they'd be able to keep you safe. But in actual fact, it was an Israeli unit 8,200 front company that's trying to take over a load of different um services uh on behalf of Peter Teal's massive uh Palunteer organization.
really that's what was going on and so she's obviously working with these people invested with these people that's very worrying I started writing about that because she got involved in 2018 19 she got involved in the UK health tech advisory board Matt Hancock and uh Daniel Korski brought her in to um the UK government and asked for her advice and made her part of the UK UK health tech advisory board. I reported on that.
That was my first article on Yunkaman.
And then from that point on, I went through all of her history. She she used uh every mechanism of censorship against me, every technique of censorship. She had microtaskers having me delisted from uh Google. She's used she's reported on every platform hundreds of times. Um, I requested uh uh freedom of information request from X to get all of my data to see what and they they supplied me with two worksheets and when when I actually decoded them because they were heavily coded. Uh when I decoded them, they showed that that Nicole Younman had been on a massive campaign of of reporting there and etc. So, she's extremely trying to hide her her bit her ties to Epstein. Of course, why wouldn't you? Uh but in the Epstein files uh recently there was 4,300 plus mentions of her name. Uh this included her and Epstein possibly planning to get married and have superior babies. Uh the relationship she had with Epstein. She told Substack when she was having six of my um uh articles geoblocked from Substack. She said she had like uh a she her people at NGF Capital told Substack under oath that they um she had a very small personal um relationship with Epstein. And it turns out it's not that at all. It turns out it's a very complex relationship.
Possibly she was Epstein's best buddy beyond Maxwell. Um, and that is quite a big thing to be and I think one day there'll be movies made about her. But what she looks like is kind of like an an everything again in the same ilk as Epstein probably helping move money and finance uh things, but she she and is in a sense an international money woman of mystery. Um but she she is uh um a conduit to be able and a front-facing um persona to sell intelligence operations. So she's put up to sell things like a car by 911. And people look at her and say, "Oh, she's beautiful, clever, intelligent, successful. Of course, we can trust her.
We can we can send her to the health tech advisory board and she can win for Oakin who's one which is one of her companies that the head Parker Moss was also on the health tech advisory board.
uh we can win the NHS data for our company. So she can get all the NHS data, all the data about my medical conditions, about other people's medical conditions and now in the hands of Nicole Youngerman. Data, data, data.
They want our data. They want all of the main data sets. Main data sets are held by police. I mean over in Germany, Palanteer has has got four states currently, contracts in four states for with the police and other people. In Britain is much worse than that. is mod has got contracts with Palanteeria. They are basically uh getting data from every single part of our society. And that's one of the reasons why you got to be worried about Nicole Younman. She is truly a very pretty sheep wearing a and and if you go underneath if you go underneath and you zip unzip it, she is a very feisty wolf, you know, very feisty wolf. Well, we're not I mean, we should say that we're not necessarily saying that Alan Marryman uh you know, it's we're not saying he's in the Epstein files. Maybe he doesn't know.
>> I'm in the Epstein files. I'm in the Epstein files 17 times. So, it says over and over again, journalist of concern and the like. So, >> um but but but this guy but this guy is it's in relation to meeting people about Carbine. Um >> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah. And that's dodgy as hell.
>> And also Jobio, he was involved in the Jabio deal as well.
>> Then I would be suspicious about Jobio selling the data and giving data across to to uh Till's organizations and signing across. I I mean that's what they're doing.
>> Also, it's an employment uh platform, you know, so it's like >> so people are giving all of their information, >> CVs and Yeah. Um so so I mean what where is she at now?
Well, actually, forget about Nicole for a minute. You're obviously in the UK.
Um, I'm in Ireland. What is I mean, we we've kind of talked about I think I know the answer, but this this thing of not reporting.
I mean, I'm surprised by Ireland. I'm surprised by Ireland, you know, what we what we've stood for in the past, who we are as people. we've very easily slipped into this place that there's decisions being made for us on behalf of us that don't fit with who we are as people. Um, and there was a fuel protest recently which was very quickly shut down. Um, and it was a peaceful protest. It was shut down very quickly uh with threats of um I mean there's all sorts of threats made to individual farmers and haulers and all this kind of stuff by the by the the Irish police and guard because she um but we very slipped into this really easily and it was sort of we've been blindsided because we slipped into this place where the media tell us and I'm not that guy I'm sorry I like I worked in radio I worked in mainstream media for 20 years you And people might watch this and go, "He's just disgruntled. He worked with RTE." Or RT, the BBC of Ireland, and now he's just pissed off and all that kind of stuff. It's not that. I'm I'm coming at this with an open mind, curious, and I'm I'm interested in what I'm seeing. I'm not telling anybody what to think. I'm not necessarily even trying to give my opinion, but it's this thing where someone's name is being mentioned in the Epstein files and it is of concern and he's receiving money from us taxpayers. We should be questioning this. We should be allowed to question this. And this man should be in front of a committee somewhere to answer, you know, what what where's the money? What's going on? This isn't happening. And this should be a concern to the Irish people is what I'm getting at.
>> Yeah. No, 100%. I I think you've got to understand if Marman was um uh fronting up Car by 911. Well, car by 911 was an intelligence operation to take over um uh our our to take our data, our most vital and uh crucial data, our most sensitive data um and put it in the hands of Peter Teal and the like and Ahoud Barack. I mean on that board when I reported on Carbine 911, this is the type of people you're dealing with. When I reported the board was Ahud Barack who was the 10th prime minister of Israel, Nicole Yunkerman, the only Israeli who isn't on the board in actual fact. Uh Pinchus Buchas who was the head of Israel's unit 8,200 cyber division. Uh Amia Elkai and Alex Disenov who were both part of the Israeli prime minister's office at one point and was security and intelligence at one point.
Those guys, Carbine 911 that Marryman is representing are just the MOSAD. When I reported on it, they had to take down that entire board, which made me laugh.
And they replaced it with Michael Chertoff, the neocon from the Alliance of Security Democracy, who's clearly the CIA. If you're letting Yunkman into your world, and Marryman is just a root for that, then they just they're just selling off your people to the CIA. And the CIA care about propaganda nowadays, they care about the propaganda channels.
So when we're talking about the the ability to actually speak and stuff, your mainstream media will be bought and sold by the worst people in society. And those worst people are the top tier intelligence organizations. And they want every sort of entry. They want the back doors. They want the keys to the kingdom. They want to know all your secrets. They want to know all your secrets. Whether they're your health secrets, your criminal secrets, whe whatever they are, your skeletons in your closet. They are all about compromising you so they can build a society they want to build. And the society that they're building is, I'll say it, I said it a lot, the globalist digital technocratic ponopticon. It is what they are building. They are building something that is not about Ireland. It's not about Wales. It's not about the UK. It's not about America.
It's about combining it all into uh a system of governance that we are detached from and then we are under digital tyranny which will mostly be managed by AI.
That's what they're planning for the future is uh the vision of society is that we generate wealth and the parita distribution delivers that wealth to their doorsteps and we just accept it.
That's as simple as it is. They they we are just slaves and we will be tokenized and the real wealth will all be flowing up to these people who have manufactured our society. Remember Epstein wasn't simply uh trafficking women, girls. He wasn't simply uh running guns. He wasn't simply doing intelligence operations. He was much more than all of that. you know um the these people were also Epstein was also set up edge foundation which was training the technocratic elite the next generation from from 1997 onwards including Jeff Bezos Elon Musk uh Sergey Brin Larry Page uh Salakamanga uh E Ev Evans many others all of the people who were now heads of all of the major social media platforms were being trained ained via Jeffrey Epsteinf funed programs that include programs on the psychology of scarcity, how to use poverty against people to make them do what you want them to do and many other different things as well. So including transhumanism and synthetic genomics in 2009 when Epstein was a day and a half after Epstein is released from prison.
Yeah. In 2009, Epstein is funding a um uh synthetic genomic master class with the grandfathers of synthetic genomics at Space X alongside Elon Musk. So Elon Musk and Epstein funding it together.
now that that none of this stuff is going to get reported because they designed your world. That world that we're moving into, the world of apps, the world of AI, all of that. Epstein designed it all. The world of thirdwave politics where our political systems are all gerrymandered so that we're forced to into the same cage over and over again. And we are we are slaves. That's Epstein's world that he helped design that he funded the designing of. and we think he's just this or just that. He's he's he's if they keep you looking at just the sex angle of this, you mix miss everything else out. You miss everything else out. And there's a lot here.
Uh and I think in a way uh the UK has been forced to look at some of this in the media with thanks to the king's brother Andrew and um and uh >> the princess >> Lord don't sweat and then Mandelson you know so there it's been in the media it's been out there in Ireland you know uh we had a very high up minister say we're not going to look at the Epstein files we you know um and and and we should be concerned, I would imagine. Or why would you say we should be concerned if like people in in power in Ireland are saying we're not going to look at the Epstein files or or how uh anyone's connected to the Epstein files and we're not there's nothing. There's no front pages. The front pages of of Epstein are about Andrew and are about um uh your politicians, your royal family.
>> There's no front pages about Irish politicians or Irish people of note.
>> Clever. Clever. And of course that's exactly what they want to do. I mean the the um they want you to be looking away but there's a load of uncomfortable questions. It's not only uncomfortable questions because if you ask about them and you then you ask about the the politicians who have been in charge who created your system a lot of the times you'll discover that a lot of those guys have met Epstein at some point in their past. they have been around him or they've been around his ilk or the people he was around and you you'll discover they did business with them. I I try and explain this in British politics, you know, they talk about Mandlesson and Prince Andrew. They keep it focused on that because they don't want you to know that Iette Cooper, Ed Bulls, Ed Milliband, probably his brother David Milliband, Gordon Brown, Anton Blair were all hanging around in the same exact same circle at the exact same time as Epstein during the birth of the Clinton uh presidency on many of them working with uh Clinton's people and Clinton's allies and they would have met Epstein on plenty of occasions.
Avette Cooper would have met him. Ed Balls would have met him. There's there's just no doubt about it. They were hanging in these very small very small circles that were related. And as soon as you start looking into that, it'll ask other questions. And I think one of the most uncomfortable questions that is going to come out of the Epstein files eventually that is one of the main key reasons why right now everybody and every mainstream media organization is failing to tackle the the true nature of this beast is the links to uh Israel. uh the language that they use about non-Jews, the clear racism that they they because they were I mean Les Wexner and um Jeffrey Epstein were Zionists, extreme Zionists, and they believed in a world that is beyond our imagination.
And they were creating something with the intention of having an apocalyptic end time that it doesn't end well for anybody who isn't a Jew basically. And those that sort of disrespect of what they often refer to as goyam is going to be an issue because everybody talks about anti-semitism being the the worst uh sin in the world. But in actual fact, there's a lot of people who are very concerned about Zionism who are being dressed as anti-semmites. And when you look at the Epstein files and you look at Wexner and what he was and what he was doing behind the scenes, you'll start to realize the Zionists have been pushing an agenda that takes us to war.
And that some of the things that we don't want to talk about in the mainstream press may have actually been committed. Some of the big acts in history may have actually been committed by intelligence services that were having a mutualistic relationship uh that include Israel and America especially uh with Britain in amongst their two and I think a lot of questions about Israel a lot of questions about the languages people use about uh non-Jews uh I think those are questions that are so awkward that they could they they could break people's brains because people are so trained to only look at it from the one side, from the subjective view. And I'm not saying, you know, I'm not trying to be bad about anybody here, but I'm saying that when people look down on another race and see them as inferior, that's extremely negative.
That has extremely negative consequences on both sides. No one's inferior. We're humans. And humans are all the same level whether you like it or not. But that superiority, especially religious superiority, is dangerous and has been uh an issue in the past. It's where nearly every single war has come from is some sort of belief that one group is superior to another for some other reason. And I think that's a conversation that's not really being had because of clear reasons, especially the fact that there's a genocide going on in the Middle East right now.
>> Yeah, well said. Um, just before we wrap it up, uh, Johnny, what I mean, you're you're you continue your work. Where can people find you? I see you've got newspap.com down there in your in your under your name, but for anybody who's interested in looking at your work, reading some of your stuff, where can they find you?
>> Yeah, come to YouTube. I'm on YouTube, of course. I mean, if you if you just like the basics, then come to YouTube.
I'm on X. I'm on all various platforms.
I I have to admit I'm not too keen on Instagram and Facebook and stuff because I just got so much stuff to put out all the time. I'm on Substack. That's a really good way to support my work and Patreon is a good way, though it's hard to interact with Patreon because the the the the platform is a little bit shitty to be perfectly honest. Um but I I'm at newswpace.com and you can find links to everything there and um it is a project I want to expand on. Really what I want to make a newspaste into is something where people can actually um members can come along and paste the news they want to see up there. Um I I want it to be an interactive element to it. But at the moment you can find all my work there and there is masses of work, lots of long form articles, lots of other things. I I am pitching this at the moment. Hey, come listen to the Jeffrey Epstein podcast, The Musical, parts one and two. You'll find them on Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, wherever you want, or newswpace.com. And they are fun, banging tunes, but also very clever way to look at the Epstein case. Can make you understand things in ways that even the 7,500 word article can't make you understand the same thing as you can understand in a threeminut songs.
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