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[00:00:04]Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Of course not.

[00:00:07]We're live again.

[00:00:12]Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night to whoever is watching later. But of course, as the great master Jonath Cafu would say, that guy at night, he was nervous on the day of his presentation at Corinthians and then he got nervous. Potato, okay? Potatoes at night, potatoes at night, potatoes. Potatoes at night. And then I picked up this, and it became a catchphrase for us to start our live streams here on my Timão's YouTube channel, on Papo Converson, which is from 8 to 9 pm, as always, Monday to Friday, except when Corinthians is playing, right? right? Then when they play it won't be like, for example, on Thursday, because then it's Peñarol and Corinthians, there's no pre-game talk. I'll be in the newsroom to do the post-game analysis of Peñarol vs. Corinthians. Let's talk about it. There's a lot going on, huh? My God in heaven. There's Hugo Souza, there's Memphis Depai, there are problems at Parque São Jorge once again. A complicated situation.

[00:01:22]There's another situation that just happened a little while ago that I'm going to break down for you, and for those who think like me, it's good news. And I want to know if you will also receive what I'm about to tell you as good news, or if it's news you don't like, or if you find it worrying. This is great news for me.

[00:01:49]I'll talk about that in a little while. There's a lot for us to talk about, a lot for us to discuss, a lot of interesting things, behind-the-scenes information. I really need you guys to leave that glorious like, leave a like here one more time on our chat show so we can talk a lot about Corinthians. Sure, from now on with behind-the-scenes stories and interesting facts. There's also a poll about Hugo Souza that Rodrigão put up for you to vote on. Rodrigão is right there. If your messages don't appear on the screen, if your opinions and comments don't show up, you can yell at Rodrigão all you want, it's not my fault, okay? It's his fault. He's the guy who's there to post polls and photos. My job is to keep things as relaxed as possible; I just want to talk and chat with you all, and discuss Corinthians here. Beauty? Okay, so let's get right to it, let's play our glorious intro right now. I'm going to drink my Diet Coke from the Libertadores Cup. Oh, I've got the Libertadores cup, undefeated champion. Eight wins, six draws. The greatest save in the history of the Copa Libertadores, which, by the way, has a game in a little while, huh?

[00:03:06]Santa Fé and Platense are playing soon, and we'll be talking about that topic too. Let's go then, Rodrigão. Let's roll. I'm going to grab a Coke Zero here, and when the intro comes back, we'll talk a lot about Corinthians.

[00:03:26]This program is brought to you by KTO.

[00:03:32]Thank you, thank you for the affection, thank you for the attention of everyone who is arriving, who is wishing me a good night. Spectacular as always, your education is a spectacle. I just have to thank you for this affection, this politeness from you all, wishing you a good night, arriving between 8 and 9 pm here at Papo com Vessone. Let's show the poll we prepared, and Rodrigão will be there.

[00:03:58]Thanks, Bruna. Thank you so much for your kind words, Bruna Yanagawa 1768. I apologize if I got your last name wrong. Everyone arriving together, wishing each other that very special goodnight. Thanks. We always try to share a lot of behind-the-scenes information, lots of interesting facts with you all, and we try to keep the live streams to about an hour. Look, there he is! How could we not? Vlad Portuga, who is the sacred monster. Oh, Vlad's already in charge, we're going to win the Peñarol tournament and we'll immediately be in first place overall. Flamengo is tied with Corinthians because they'll get the three points from the postponed game, and for now, in terms of goal difference, I think we have a slightly worse goal difference than Flamengo. Oh, oh, Rodrigo is already telling us what the problem is. There will always be problems. You know that life as it is for Corinthians is just like that, there's bound to be problems, folks. So, from today there are two, uh, one actually from the club and another that the club is trying to get away with. And I'm going to tell you what, for me, is good news, and you'll understand if you're on the same wavelength as me. Anyway, I'll show you in a little while, okay?

[00:05:15]The poll is live. How worried are you?

[00:05:20]with a drop in Hugo Souza's performance after not going to the World Cup.

[00:05:28]Everyone knows he wasn't called up.

[00:05:30]Everton went in his place, it wasn't even Bent, it was Everton from Grêmio. How do you think he will react?

[00:05:41]What are your concerns regarding the fact that our number one, the legendary Hugo Souza, was not called up? Overall, he will feel average. I confess that it worries me. So, if you think it's average, then yes, it's a concern. She's small, nothing exaggerated, but you have a concern.

[00:06:02]It's not perfect, it's not small, it's average.

[00:06:08]Dude, I think so. If you think she's small or nonexistent, he'll handle it with ease.

[00:06:15]If that's your choice, the important thing is that you vote. Rodrigão conducted the poll, put it online, and there it is, 263 votes. Wow, we have a huge margin for you guys to vote, to give us that little boost in the Conversone conversation. The important thing is to vote. When you vote, don't forget to leave the glorious mark.

[00:06:35]And the glorious one isn't Botafogo, no. The glorious like, okay? Leave a big like!

[00:06:42]Oh, I wanted to start by letting you know that tickets for the Corinthians vs. Atlético Mineiro game will go on sale tomorrow. And I'm going to be honest with you. Do you love Corinthians? Do you like Corinthians? Go to that game, and you'll be unable to go to a Corinthians game for two months.

[00:07:03]Two months without spending a single real on Corinthians tickets. So this is the last chance because after that, well, there's actually Platense, right? Let's be fair to Brazilians here. Next up is Grêmio, right?

[00:07:16]Platense is playing away. So, sorry.

[00:07:18]Going back, rewinding, we have Platense.

[00:07:21]But you'll be in the Brazilian Championship for a long time. Our next home game is the return leg of the Cup against Remo, okay? Oh, actually, this is the first game after the World Cup.

[00:07:36]So, for the Brazilian team, the last game, okay? And swipe to the side in the photo, please, Rodrigão.

[00:07:43]Corinthians and Atlético Mineiro. Oh, the prices are the same as always, right?

[00:07:48]Sometimes they lower the price by R$8, R$8, R$5, R$4, sometimes they raise it, but when there's an increase it's not such an abusive deal, but it's difficult for Corinthians to get out of that price difference, which I don't like, you know, I don't like it. And they hide that white strip underneath, those white prices there, that's what they're hiding, which is the full price. And I already spoke at the club, no, I've already lost my patience. Instead of them placing the white part next to the yellow part to show the person, the fan, that it's very important for them to be part of the loyal fan club. In my case, for example, I have the Minha Vida plan, which is the yellow one. It costs R$ 24 per month. And if you don't impress the person to show them, wow, it's really worth being a loyal fan. Look at this. I was going to pay 130 for this sector, but I'll pay 89.

[00:08:50]Wow, that's a 40-dollar reduction here. I'm paying 24 to lose in order to get 40. I 'll give you an example here. The upper corner, east upper corner. East upper corner.

[00:09:09]Here it is, 69. The full price is 100.

[00:09:15]So you're paying, getting a R$30 discount, you paid 24. And if it's a game, if you go against Barra, you're going with Platense, you'll eliminate 90 to pay 24. But the fan needs to know. I've already spoken to the guys from Marx and Corinthians, it seems like they never learn. They prefer to hide the full price down there to make the fan think that the price is what it is, the colored ones, the three plans, rather than positively impacting the fan to become a loyal supporter, which is truly worthwhile, folks, it's really worth it.

[00:09:52]The full price is much higher. Oh, the upper west side is full, it's 150.

[00:09:59]It's 109 in the My Life Plan, which is... oh, in my story. So it's 89.

[00:10:06]Guys, we're talking about a huge difference, okay? Almost a 50-buck difference to pay 24 a month for a game. If there are three or four games in a month, the average is 2.5, almost three per month. Mostly two, others three. There have been months with five in a month. Five is the record to date, since the stadium was built in one month.

[00:10:31]I don't remember which year it was, but there were five. It's been four times five, but to be fair, most of the time it's two or three a month.

[00:10:42]But you paid 24 and you'll get 40, you'll get an 80 discount. But no, they stay there, hiding the full price from non- members, okay? So these are the prices.

[00:10:50]Put the last screen there, which is actually right there. Tomorrow, then, is the 20th. Today the check-in for my chair has already started, right, for whom my chair is intended. Whoever has a seat there pays 700, 700 and something per month to rent their seat, it's located behind the bench. For non-paying attendees and people with disabilities, it starts a day earlier, which is also fair. It started a day earlier. So tomorrow at 11 am, 80 points or more, or my love plan starts earlier, or 80 points or more. And then it comes staggered, as always. Who are non- members?

[00:11:28]Actually, it's not even that. After morning, from 0 to 19 to 19.9 is only after morning, not tomorrow. And non-members at 3 pm. So, anyone with a balance between 0 and 19.9 will have 4 hours to buy before non-members, and non-members will pay the full price (the white one), okay? So we should have, uh, in about two or three days at the latest, the Platense sale starts by Saturday at the latest. I think it will start before the Atlético game even happens, okay? So there's a suggestion. Let's go help Corinthians with these tickets. Let's go. That's a lot of information, huh? From now on, get ready. Oh, one thing, a couple of interesting facts before we get to the real news. Rayan went and gave an interview to SPN. And why am I talking about Rayan? Because he was called up and he mentioned the Corinthians coach, right? So, whenever there's something on my live stream, it's going to be related to Corinthians. I'm not like that, I do n't go around saying random things. I hate daydreaming and talking about other things. For me, Corinthians will always be a time for Corinthians.

[00:12:48]Ultimately, that's why I think my audience is great too; people really enjoy my work, right? Here's an hour of interesting facts, information, and behind-the- scenes glimpses into Corinthians. I don't spend my time here getting carried away with other topics.

[00:13:00]And then Fernando Diniz was praised by Ran. Put your little artwork there, okay? After being called up, I called Diniz and thanked him for everything he's done in my life. So, uh, at this moment, look at this screenshot, the two of them are fighting because he's scolding Rayan.

[00:13:18]Exactly. When Corinthians were losing the game, it was 2-1 or 3-1. And Rayan didn't make the pass he wanted, and he scolded him, Ryan got angry, he was going to fight him, and then the two of them had a falling out. And this screenshot was taken during the fight against Corinthians. I was there at São Januário, and it was actually 3-2 for Corinthians. So Dinis has that kind of impact on people's minds. He nags, he's a pain in the neck, he argues. The guy picked up the phone and called: "Dude, I'm on the national team and you're an integral part of my growth as a player." So, when he says what he says about Yuri, when he says what he says about Gus Souza, about Mateuzinho, that maybe he can help them get into the national team, to experience the next World Cup cycle, right?

[00:14:05]Because when the World Cup is over, Neymar, Ibes, Fabinho, Casemiro, there are a lot of guys who wo n't be part of the national team anymore.

[00:14:17]So, and he says that, he fills people's heads with it, okay?

[00:14:23]So, uh, this is a situation that I wanted to share, because Yuri, if he knows how to take advantage of this, Yuri, Hugo, Mateuzinho, Bidu, I think Dinis can help them grow, okay? So, I wanted to share this with you all because of that.

[00:14:42]Thanks to everyone who's also talking about my channel. Thank you very much.

[00:14:45]Then, anyone who wants to can sign up. Vessone's channel, I'm here with a channel, I already have almost 20,000 subscribers, man. Spectacular. Thank you so much for your kindness. Thanks to everyone who 's quoting in the chat as well. Rodrigão put it there. I'll even be doing a live stream tonight at 11 PM on Vessone's channel, from 11 AM to midnight. My first live stream will always be on Tuesdays and Thursdays, from 11 AM to midnight, when Corinthians isn't playing, okay?

[00:15:08]Thank you so much to everyone who remembers and shows such affection towards me.

[00:15:13]Then, anyone who wants to show their support can sign up. Oh, look at this fact, I didn't know it. An article from my Corinthians fan site about Rodrigo Garro.

[00:15:22]Rodrigo Garro equaled Guerreiro's record. Then you 'll say, V Sia, where did Rodrigo Garro equal Paolo? Number of games.

[00:15:33]So now Garro and Guerreiro together become the fifth foreign player to have worn the Corinthians jersey the most times, Rodrigo Garro. He equaled the Warrior. And of course, playing in Uruguay, for example, he'll jump, he'll go to 131 and jump to fifth place alone. And then Warrior is relegated to sixth place, okay? There's the table right there. Good one, Rodrigão.

[00:16:02]Rodrigão is a monster, man. He zoomed in, see? So, look, Cantilho 118, Bruno Mendes 119, Guerreiro 130, uh, Garro 130. Then, Garro will pass him and head over to get José Hungarês, Hungria. He played in the 60s, if I'm not mistaken, and he played 138 games, that Hungarian, José Hungaro. And then after 158, Fred Rincón, third, Balbuena 167 and him, of course, Angel Rodrigo Romero, the greatest, a sacred monster, Angel Romero, 377 games, is the foreigner who has worn this Corinthians shirt the most. Okay, let's do it together here. Garro has 130. We are in May. Corinthians has more than 20 or 22 games. No, that's 22 more, right?

[00:17:16]No, 22 has 16. 22 games in the Brazilian league, God willing. 2 4 6 7 of the Libertadores.

[00:17:30]Knock here, look. He had taken. So, we 're talking about practically 30 more Copa do Brasil titles, God willing. 2 4 6 final single, but almost 40 games in the year. So, if everything goes right, Corinthians reaches both finals. I 'll do the calculation like this, okay? That's not the case. Oh, it's going to fall more, it might fall sooner, it might, but I'm going to make the full payment. So, we're saying that, look, if everything goes well, he'll overtake the Hungarian, he'll overtake Rincom, and he could even overtake Balbuena, becoming the second foreign player. But of course, Corinthians has to go all the way in the Brazilian championship until the end, right? Obviously, it's a points-based system, so we'd reach the final of the Copa do Brasil and the final of the Libertadores, which would be an absurd dream, right? Okay, but then he would arrive, he would surpass Babuena, and become the second player with the most games wearing the Corinthians jersey. I found that information quite interesting, it 's really cool. By the way, Sucker is reminding us, Fagner against Romero, later today, Cruzeiro and Boca at La Bombonera and Fagner versus Romero. Good point, great game later. Actually, speaking of the game, before that, I'm going to, I mean, I'm going to share a third interesting fact, and then we'll go. The full-back, on loan from Corinthians, has completed a month without playing a match.

[00:18:53]So, for those of you who don't know, Léo Maná is on loan to Criciuma and it's been a month now, so he hasn't played a single game for the Santa Catarina team yet, okay? He is 22 years old. And so, even today, if you ask me, don't ask me why.

[00:19:13]Fabinho Soldado renewed his contract until 2029.

[00:19:19]December 29.

[00:19:23]Léo Maná has a guaranteed salary from Corinthians. Play for Corinthians, play somewhere else, believe it or not, if you want.

[00:19:29]I'll tell you, I didn't understand that one at all, okay? I didn't understand anything.

[00:19:37]2029 gave him 5 more years on his contract. Unbelievable, folks, unbelievable.

[00:19:44]We'll talk a lot more about this. There's a lot to it. There's Parque São Jorge, there are financial problems for Corinthians, there's the voting, there's Memphis, there's Hugo, there's a lot of things. Leave a like, and support the conversation with Vessone once again. Oh, speaking of talking with Vessone, the millionaires, the millionaires' fans went to the Gaviões, spent the day there, and today, let me get this, let me get this... Ah, good. There you go, Rodrigão got it. There you go. The Millionaires' supporters, just like Boca and Peñarol's, went to the Gaviões' headquarters. And so Gaviões starts building this network of friendships, you know, let's say. So there will never be a match against another team from Colombia that became Millonarios, a partner of the Gaviões. So if Santa Fe, which is a rival team, comes to play, they won't go there. He'll definitely go to another club, he'll go to another organized group, he won't go there.

[00:20:53]Nacional of Uruguay has one there, I think with São Paulo, not with Palmeiras, but with Mancha. So Penharol became a partner there. We hope this partnership goes well when we get back, right?

[00:21:04]Because we're playing this Thursday, and we want Corinthians fans to be treated very well in Uruguay, okay? So there you have it. The one from Serro Portenho was also there in the hawks. I think it's coming back now because it's going to play against Palmeiras, and I think the one from Serro is coming back too. I found that curious. The millionaire will play against São Paulo shortly at Morumbi. Okay, here's another interesting fact.

[00:21:31]Let's see if I had anything else to say or not, so we can get into more problematic and serious topics and all that. I think it's problematic and more burdensome.

[00:21:47]Oh, let's go. Leave a like, okay? Are you voting in the poll? Let me see how the poll is going, Rodrigão. Let me see if everyone's participating in the poll, because it's a good poll, you know? Cat has four good options.

[00:22:04]The poll is mind-boggling. It was pretty evenly divided, huh? In fact, all four items received a significant number of votes. 539 votes. Oh, we have room to grow. Let's go, everyone! Let's go. Give us some support, leave a like, vote in the poll. How concerned are you about Hugo Souza's drop in performance after missing the World Cup? Total will feel option one. Option two is average. I confess that it's average. Option three is small, nothing exaggerated. There is one concern, but it's mild, or four, none at all. He'll ace it. So, it's important that you vote, because now that you know a little about Hugo, his personality, how much he cared about the World Cup, how he was doing, his expectations, the upcoming games, well, weigh everything up and vote. Give us a little support, the important thing is to vote in our poll, and of course, always leave a like. I want to talk about André Sanchez now, and I'm not going to talk about his legacy, because he has positive legacies, but he also has some legacies that are just ridiculous, like this case with the under-23 team, where, well, they treated his knee improperly, and he won in court, and Corinthians will pay him until he's 75 years old. It's going to cost around 25 million, a small salary, not very high, but until he's 75, plus compensation and everything else, it's going to be 25 million for that glorious under-23 team that Andrés built, that unbelievable legacy that Andrés built with the under-23 team, which I'm very proud of, my work, the work of my team.

[00:23:48]We demolished that category by exposing all the flaws and problems, the sheer number of players, more than 40 signed in two years, a bunch of players from teams nobody even knew, a bunch of unknown players, you know, it was a disgusting business, a disgusting job. And then there's a big legacy from him, isn't that right? Vote on Monday on the expulsion of André Sanchez at Parque São Jorge. By the way, I'm giving you a heads-up, get ready, mega live coverage of my Timão (Corinthians) from Parque São Jorge.

[00:24:22]We're not even going to have the meeting on Monday because we're going to prioritize the images that the fans should bring to the gates of Parque São Jorge.

[00:24:36]And we're going to have a live broadcast, we're going to be from our house, me, Becker, and Ortega, we're going to do a mega coverage with images from there and everything else. So get ready for a meeting that we're having from 8 to 10, because it's very important. On Monday, the board members will decide whether or not to expel André Sanchez. And then Pantaleão informed us last night that the voting will be open.

[00:25:06]No sealed envelopes, no closed voting, none of that. Hey, let's listen to Pantalhão.

[00:25:16]Ask Rodrigão to put it on.

[00:25:18]My idea, and I've always been convinced of this, is that there's no reason to have a secret ballot. The vote is open and by name. It doesn't have to be any different. All the votes I've conducted so far during my presidency have been open and by name. There's no reason why that specific reason should be different.

[00:25:35]No no. Mine's right there, it's right there. So, Pantaleão is great news. First, I wanted to congratulate Dr. Leonardo Pantalhão on his decision, and it's his prerogative, right? His prerogative, as he is the chairman of the board today, is that the pressure against him is immense, and he's holding on tight because the board members want— not all of them, of course, but especially those who will try to save and protect André Sanchez— they want a secret vote so as not to expose themselves.

[00:26:22]In front of the fans, and the coach is holding the fort, holding the pressure, and marking, announcing again that it's going to be opened.

[00:26:33]So there could be many council presidents who would show up at that moment and hold a secret vote. Voni, today is the 19th, and a lot of water will flow under that bridge until the 25th, right? A club member, a hug for him.

[00:26:51]Sometimes, often, he watches me; I wo n't say his name because he hasn't given me permission.

[00:26:55]And then he said, "Be careful, huh? A lot can happen on that bridge. What if he changes his mind, what if they invent something?" So, I'm saying today, May 19th at 8:29 PM, congratulations to Pantaleão for the decision to open the event. So, you, advisor, who wants to cover things up, that's fine, it's your right, but otherwise we 'll find out.

[00:27:21]We're going to find out who the partners and board members were who voted against expelling André Sanchez, after everything that's been done, especially the corporate credit card issue that's still with the Public Prosecutor's Office and everything else, but also with many of the stupid things Andrés did and, as far as I know, administrative errors within the club, because the credit card issue is already with the Public Prosecutor's Office and the courts, and soon the police and everything else could get involved. Yeah, and he did a lot of stupid things. Andres managed to deliver the best administration in my history, back in 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011. And he succeeded; it was worse until Augusto came in, who couldn't even finish his term and is now a defendant in court. Then he defends himself in a lawsuit with the Public Prosecutor's Office demanding 40 million for him to return to the club's coffers. So it's actually quite difficult, isn't it? Andrez and Augusto were there, the two of them. Well, what Andres did in 2018, 19 and 20 was a deal that, look, you have to go to great lengths to be bad, to double the debt in 3 years, to financially destroy the club in 3 years and everything else. The guy has to put in a lot of effort to be bad, you know.

[00:28:48]So, André left a very good administration, a beautiful reconstruction that the club had, Paulista champion, Copa do Brasil champion, a reconstruction that brought Ronaldo, who had a beautiful centenary year in 2010, with a wonderful event in Vale do Aanga Baú, Brazilian champion in 2011, who left a team assembled to be champion of the Libertadores and the world in 2012, of the Recope, of the Paulista in 2013.

[00:29:18]But then, upon his return, he managed to destroy Corinthians financially and now especially with the credit card issue, and so on. Basically, it's that thing where the guy feels above good and evil and does what he thinks he has to do and thinks that nobody can stop him, and so on. And now, the council members who want to cover this up will have to give it a name. Congratulations to Pantaleão for the decision to hold an open vote.

[00:29:48]So on Monday the 25th, get ready, mega mega coverage of my Timão (Corinthians), okay? So here's the good news: it will be opened. And I repeat, congratulations to Pantaleão for the decision he made. It's OK? Leave a like. whoever strengthens our poll once again. I'll be there in a little while, in Memphis and everything, okay?

[00:30:14]First, I want to go into Parque São Jorge. I have some very important things to share with you here. There's a lot of important stuff to cover regarding bureaucracy and Parque São Jorge, since I mentioned Andrés. So, to be fair, I had already entered Parque São Jorge with Andrés. Corinthians once again appears on the list of debtors to the Brazilian government due to outstanding FGTS (Brazilian employee severance fund) payments.

[00:30:40]Article by Daniel Kepler. And I repeat, when it comes to Daniel Kepler's articles, you should read them, not just the title.

[00:30:50]Daniel Baita is a journalist; he writes very thorough articles. Each paragraph of the article is very important.

[00:30:59]Each paragraph contains a news item, each paragraph provides a lot of information, okay? I know that nowadays we're in a hurry, nowadays it's all about social media, we want everything summarized. I will always issue this warning. Read the full articles from all the sources. There's a lot of information, okay?

[00:31:20]Corinthians has reappeared on the list of debtors to the Brazilian Federal Government just three months after confirming the approval of a tax settlement with the Attorney General's Office, under which the club committed to paying 679 million reais in social security and severance pay (FGTS) debts incurred until 2025. According to a search conducted by Meu Timão on the PGFN website, the inclusion of the new debts occurred last Thursday. There are three registrations recorded in 2026, totaling R $ million.

[00:32:03]So, Corinthians is once again in debt for FGTS (Brazilian severance pay fund), social security debt, 40 million just in relation to that, so, uh, registered in 2026, another 40 grand. It's worth remembering that the tax transaction signed at the end of 2025 and formalized two months later— you remember that farce you pull, you formalize it, you do it in 2025, but the formalization was in 2026. Then Corinthians did it, put the agreement in the 2025 balance sheet, that crazy thing they did, anyway, that thing that's even hard to understand how a board member voted in favor of such a disgrace, right? He voted in favor with a hangover. Wow, you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Those of you who voted in favor, with reservations, of a deal like that, of that balance sheet, you should be ashamed to look in the mirror, to lay your head on the pillow and say: "Damn, what have I done? What have I done?"

[00:33:02]Especially those who have a good understanding of finance, and even more so, the legal field, you know?

[00:33:07]You guys know what I'm talking about. It is worth remembering that the tax transaction agreed upon in 2020, at the end of 2025, and formalized two months later with the payment of the first installment by Corinthians, had already covered previous debts the club had with UFG (Federal University of Goiás) related to FGTS (Employee Severance Indemnity Fund). The agreement included four debts of the registered type 14, 24, and 25, totaling 15 million, which must be paid in 60 installments. These four new, these three new registrations, right, which now amount to 40 million in active debt in the name of Corinthians, have an extra element of concern on the part of the club, since the terms of the tax transaction that has been signed with the agency prohibit the maintenance of new debts.

[00:33:50]You made the agreement, the government said: "Okay, buddy, come pay here, so pay the installments there, it's clear, you won't be late anymore. If you are late, you'll lose everything and I'll screw you over."

[00:34:03]Item 3.2 says that you can't, it determines that any eventual new debt must be settled within 90 days of registration. Therefore, in theory, Corinthians has until August 12th of this year to reach an agreement with the National Treasury, removing the new debt.

[00:34:25]If the club fails to reach this agreement, the tax transaction could be rescinded according to chapter such and such. In case of rescission of the tax transaction, the consequences would be quite negative, firstly, because the club would lose the 46% discount granted in the agreement at the beginning of the year, which was signed, going back from 679 million to 1.2 million.

[00:34:55]So, if you get to August and don't pay those 40%, plus the next installment of this agreement, Previously, you have to pay the new forty bucks. If you lose the agreement, it goes back to 1,200, meaning you have to find 40 grand by August. It shouldn't be delayed now.

[00:35:15]That's already wrong. Delaying now.

[00:35:19]Right. So it's delayed. You have until August to find 40 grand. It's the RAS, it's what you owe Memphis so you don't lose it. Guys, our financial situation is extremely difficult, but the board members think everything is fine, they have no sense of urgency.

[00:35:39]But this didn't happen before. Nobody knew about these things. But today the focus is on this. The focus is on this. Whether they like it or not. My Timon contacted Corinthians and inquired about the new debt in the club's active debt. In response, the club acknowledged the debt and stated that it was already planning a new payment agreement.

[00:36:05]Oh, we knew it would be delayed.

[00:36:07]So we'll pay until August and try to make a new agreement. Do you understand or not? I do, a People try to talk, I try to be in life as it is, I try to convey reality to you. Whoever wants to keep consuming, uh, Corinthians is going to assemble a super team, is signing 10 players, uh, is going to have the super Timão. Fine, man, you consume what you want.

[00:36:36]Not me, that's not going to happen.

[00:36:39]Not with me.

[00:36:41]So, we have 40 million to raise until August. Are they going to want to make another agreement for 40? I don't know. Then you have to pay the 15 and also the 40, which is that 15, actually it's 670, right?

[00:36:59]It was the installment of 15 that will have another and another. You have all those years to pay the 679, okay?

[00:37:07]And the other piece of information I wanted to pass on from Parque São Jorge, before we get into the team issues and everything else, information that was just released, including by Macedo on X, on Macedo's blog. Superior Council of the Public Prosecutor's Office rejects Corinthians' appeal and The investigation into potential judicial intervention is ongoing. That's why I said it's good news for me. I only see this club getting out of this administrative and financial hole if there's an intervention, so I loved this news. If you don't agree with the intervention, it's not good news for you either, just like the news about the debt isn't good news.

[00:37:56]For me, this is the Superior Council of the Public Prosecutor's Office rejecting the appeal filed by Corinthians against the civil investigation that assesses the possibility of intervention.

[00:38:12]So Corinthians is defending itself.

[00:38:14]Why?

[00:38:16]Because... Look who filed for intervention: Dr. Cássio Concerino, obviously, Leandro Cano, that judge and club member, and the Voz Corintiana collective.

[00:38:32]All of them filed for intervention. So, this body gathered all the requests and is analyzing them.

[00:38:41]Corinthians went and filed a legal defense. Look, it's not necessary, we're doing this, we're doing that. What did the Superior Council do? It rejected Corinthians' defense. It's great news.

[00:38:54]It's great news.

[00:38:56]Corinthians tried to block what Dr. Cássio Concerino... Concerino, Leandro Cano, the Voz Corintiana collective, the request for intervention, uh, also an article, Mateus Fius and Daniel Kepler, read the articles, OK?

[00:39:18]According to the report, Corinthians sent a lawyer to argue the appeal, but it was unsuccessful. The appeal, it's worth remembering, was initially scheduled to be judged on the 27th, it was supposed to be judged on January 27th, but it suffered successive postponements. They're stalling in the courts. But the time has come, 4 months later there was a judgment by this body. From now on, the Public Prosecutor's Office will investigate all the allegations present in the inquiry, including not only the arguments presented by prosecutor Concerino, who made the recommendation back on the 25th, but also other statements that were attached, such as those of Romeu Tuma Júnior, the licensed president, even he got involved, Leandro Cano and Voz Corintiana, the collegiate body of the Voz Corintiana collective, Cáso Concerino himself, the prosecutor who is in charge of several investigations in the Public Prosecutor's Office regarding acts of the last The administration also has requests.

[00:40:18]Therefore, the possibility of judicial intervention is not ruled out. That's the best news. If that body were to go there and say, "Look, it's over, we've blocked it, it's not there, we didn't like Corinthians' argument, okay? What these guys are all asking for, look, I don't agree with any of this." That would have put a stop to it, but it didn't.

[00:40:38]So, the possibility of intervention remains very much alive, with all this administrative nonsense, approving a balance sheet that shouldn't be approved. The president of the fiscal council, who is currently suspended, went there and signed the document on behalf of the fiscal council. This whole mess, the guys saw it and said: "Wait a minute, these guys are asking for intervention, there's a reason here, let's analyze it."

[00:41:03]Great news, okay? The Public Prosecutor's Office will then examine whether to file a public civil action, with the judge deciding whether or not to grant the measure. There is no deadline to finalize the investigation, okay?

[00:41:18]So, the information is that, since the presentation of the appeal, the process has been investigated by the public prosecutor's office and the public and social patrimony department. It was suspended. The case is being led by André Pascoal da Silva, along with Luís Ambra Neto, who is responsible for opening an investigation into the matter following the recommendation on the 25th by Dr. Cássio Concerino, okay? The pair will be able to begin the procedures for collecting documents, scheduling hearings, and other steps. So, from now on, you'll start hearing: "Hey, Osmar, come here, let's talk." I need, I want this, this, clarification. Hey there, chairman of the board of directors? I want this, president of COR, and so, council member, did you do this? And there? And then you'll make a decision later. The CSMP, which is this body of the Public Prosecutor's Office, acts as an instance of the Public Prosecutor's Office, presided over by the Attorney General of the State, with various responsibilities, including reviewing appeals against decisions made by prosecutors. He needs to speak out when a party involved in an investigation opposes the opening of the proceedings. Great news.

[00:42:28]So, Macedo's blog brought it up, and my Timão is giving credit to Daniel Kepler, with Fiúza doing a great, very enlightening piece.

[00:42:37]That's great news, it will continue to move forward. It might be taking longer than we imagine. Ah, perhaps things could be easier, faster. We understand the urgency, but okay. The justice system has its own process. Okay, fine. Beauty?

[00:42:56]Important information about Parque São Jorge here on Papo com Vessone. Hugo Souza spoke out, making a post saying that life goes on and that one must be resilient. Jesus is still in the boat. Thank you to everyone who rooted for this dream to come true. It's part of football and part of life. The "no's" that come along the way fuel the effort to do even more. I'll be cheering you on a lot, go Brazil! And he starts crying there, talking about the Brazilian flag and everything, okay? So, that's why the poll was prompted, with Hugo Souza expressing his opinion on this negative response.

[00:43:34]I think he really needs to stay strong, because it's very important that he stays strong and focused, because if there's any opening with the three of them, they 'll play, there could be a setback, there could be any kind of injury, it happens.

[00:43:49]Ricardinho went to the 2002 World Cup to become world champion because Emerson, the midfielder, was messing around in training, hit his shoulder, injured it, and was ruled out of the World Cup. Then they called Ricardinho up, and he ended up becoming world champion. So, Hugo, keep going strong, man. Keep going strong. Your chance may come.

[00:44:08]Your chance may come. It's impossible to know.

[00:44:13]So, you have to stay strong. He plays great games. Peñarol, Galo, Platens, Grêmio, make four great games. Leave that mind there, leave that seed in the mind of Tafarel, of himself and of Antielote himself, okay? Keep going strong, you have everything you need, you're already a fan favorite. Stay at the club, don't leave during the transfer window to go to Milan and finish fifth in the Italian league.

[00:44:43]You don't earn a small salary. You 're at a giant club with a fanbase that loves you. Beauty? Are we all set or not, right, Hugo Souza?

[00:44:53]Oh, Memphis Depai, folks, first I'm going to put Ronald Kan in an interview on some local TV channel or YouTube channel, something in the Netherlands, and he said this. There's a chance Memp is present. He still has three games left for Corinthians. Ah, from when we get together for Corinthians, until the moment we get together with the Dutch national team.

[00:45:21]In these matches, he needs to earn playing time. Let's go.

[00:45:26]Why does he mention three games? Because he's ruling out Grêmio. And why is he ruling out Grêmio? Because when Corinthians and Grêmio are playing, the Dutch national team is training.

[00:45:39]Several national teams are playing that day, and there's even a friendly match scheduled for May 30th.

[00:45:44]Brazil has a friendly match on the 30th, and that's why he doesn't consider it, even though the CBF scheduled the game, all the clubs will have to release their players. So he doesn't even count the game at Grêmio's Arena. It's over, it doesn't count.

[00:46:03]What are the three games? Peñarol, Atlético Mineiro and Platense.

[00:46:12]But now he's not going to Uruguay anymore.

[00:46:16]The information was released by Corinthians' headquarters that he had a new incident, reportedly a muscle strain.

[00:46:23]Then GE reports that it's a calf injury, and my team confirms both the medical problem and the calf injury.

[00:46:32]But we find it annoying. It could have been an injury, it could. We don't have that information. Corinthians is hiding everything from Memphis, as always, but even more so now, right? Nothing can get past Memphis. When you asked, he was even embarrassed to walk by.

[00:46:50]But he had something wrong with his calf. We only have discomfort, but it could have been an injury, I do n't know.

[00:47:01]So, the leg injury he had, the other muscle injury that later caused a problem, which he accuses the club of doing the exercise incorrectly and causing the muscle to tear again, resulting in him losing two weeks, etc., etc., that's healed now, that's a different matter. Now it would have hit my calf and the other leg.

[00:47:23]And calf muscles are a real pain, you know?

[00:47:26]Everything a player does – walking, running, accelerating, decelerating, passing – it's all done with the calf muscle. It's really annoying.

[00:47:39]So K gave him this ultimatum, but he's not going to play all three games.

[00:47:46]Kum also mentions in another text, saying something like: "He needs to get playing time and in the third game play the full 90 minutes."

[00:47:53]I want him to play the full 90 minutes, which would be against Platense.

[00:47:57]So he would play a little in Uruguay, play a lot against Atlético Mineiro, and play the full 90 minutes against Platense.

[00:48:06]He's not going to Uruguay, and the chance of him playing against Atlético is slim. It exists, but I think it's small.

[00:48:15]And then he would play against Platense for at least a few minutes, then he'll go to the national team and there they'll see what happens with Memphis.

[00:48:25]So that's the situation. I'll repeat myself in a moment, Vessone, what if it's an injury and you're talking about discomfort? I know, I don't have any information. We're not going to lie to you, especially not about medical matters. I'm not going to lie, I'm not. We're not going to make things up.

[00:48:44]Our investigation should stop at discomfort, not at injury.

[00:48:49]So, uh, is it possible that Flamengo's game was the last one? It's possible.

[00:48:57]Maybe if he can't get back to Platense. Hey guys, it's important to say, Vessoni, is all this just a ruse so he can play in the World Cup? It 's not Miguel, folks.

[00:49:12]His coach, his boss, is saying: "You need to play minutes, I need you to get on the field."

[00:49:23]How can he feign injury when the coach says it's to gain playing time and rhythm? Do you understand that the numbers don't add up?

[00:49:34]If the coach says, "Look, the less he plays, the better."

[00:49:40]That's great.

[00:49:42]Sen doesn't sound crazy. The coach is saying he needs playing time, and then there's this conspiracy theory that he 's saving himself to play only in the World Cup and doesn't want to play for Corinthians. The numbers don't add up. It's either one thing or the other.

[00:50:01]It's water and oil. It doesn't match.

[00:50:05]So I think he's really not managing it and he's having bad luck that it's the final stretch of a World Cup, his last World Cup, and he must be desperate. That's the truth too, because the guy is seeing the last World Cup down the drain.

[00:50:23]Gabriel says: "And Corinthians became the test for Memphis?" Gabriel, it's not a matter of turning him into a test player, it 's about giving him minutes to play. No player with a serious injury plays 90 minutes right away.

[00:50:35]You need to have a few minutes. It's normal to get back to normal little by little.

[00:50:39]Caleb, as the Corinthians coach, can't dictate how much playing time he needs to have, but the truth is he'll be called up whether he plays or not. Caleb, I also think he's going to be there, but he's going to screw up because the coach is saying: "Play for Corinthians, you have to play for them." I need you to play for Corinthians, arrive in rhythm.

[00:51:03]The coach there is asking him to play for Corinthians, but he's not managing to.

[00:51:08]I don't think he'll be cut, unless the muscle tears twice, then he's screwed, it's over for him. I think he'll go, but he'll start way behind the others. He'll have to train and get back into rhythm, and he might mess up in the first and second games. Do you understand?

[00:51:30]The chosen tooth canal. You guys are awesome, huh? The guys making fun of Kaká. Sending a hug to Kaká. I exchanged messages today. For me, Kaká is Miguel Vessa. He won't break down in Uruguay. You'll see, he'll play a bit against Atlético Mineiro and Platense at home.

[00:51:47]I think, man, that Atlético Mineiro's game is just as tough as Uruguay's, folks.

[00:51:53]Atlético desperately needs to score points as well. Paulo Roberto, Memphis did not reach the limit of games in the Brazilian Championship, and therefore did not play in the Copa do Brasil.

[00:52:01]If you have any doubts, go to a Flamengo vs. Cruzeiro match where we'll pay 40 million.

[00:52:07]Yes, in that case you need 12 games, right? He was never going to beat that record after the injury from the first one, and he was definitely not going to beat the number of games in the Brazilian Championship and the Copa do Brasil. And yes. He could switch because he didn't play. And even if he doesn't stay at Corinthians, he wants to stay, he told the Gaviões (Corinthians' organized supporters) that he wants to stay. If Corinthians doesn't want to keep him, he can go somewhere else, you know, Paulo? You're right, it's a good message from you and it naturally opens our minds to that possibility.

[00:52:38]And I hadn't considered the possibility of him staying in Brazilian football in the second half of the year, but considering what he earns, and since Fluminense just acquired Hul, I think that basically leaves three, right?

[00:52:55]Cruzeiro, Palmeiras and Flamengo.

[00:52:58]I think it's very difficult for the other person to be able to pay what he's asking for.

[00:53:04]Lenita Memphis is a professional; she won't let us down.

[00:53:10]I think he wants to stay, guys. He's happy in Brazil. The guy lives a life he enjoys, he enjoys the people of Brazil, he enjoys the people of São Paulo who he interacts with here, wherever he goes, he enjoys the fans, he enjoys the stadium. The guy changes in the World Cup locker room, plays on a pitch like that, in a stadium that's always full, earns a good salary, and said he's willing to adapt and tone down his intensity, but apparently the Corinthians board does n't want to. Lincoln Von, could it be that Mes is considering going to another team in Brazil, like Flamengo?

[00:53:44]In fact, for example, Lincoln, Flamengo has already been eliminated from the Copa do Brasil, they've already been eliminated. So it's possible he would switch to the Brazilian league because he wouldn't reach 12 games under any circumstances in the Brazilian league. So I think yes, it's possible he could go to the second semester.

[00:54:03]I don't think he wants to, but it could happen. Oh, Corinthians will announce, I don't know, later on, look, we're not going to stay, the month is over, he 's free to look for another club, we, you don't have the financial means, okay, but he'll find a way for himself. Perhaps Brazil could be a way forward, but anyway, Lincoln, you're right, it could happen. There are more messages from the guys here, my dear Rodrigão, let's give some love, of course, to those who always give us love. That was an informative live stream today, huh? Wo retrogames.

[00:54:33]Wo, that's what he says, that's how he says it. Good evening, Voni. Passion aside, no World Cup. What would keep Hugo here with supposedly better financial offers?

[00:54:43]I think there's something about being an idol to a fanbase, about being a guy who got into the minds and hearts of the fans after Cássio, which wasn't easy.

[00:54:55]Carlos Miguel could have done that too, he wanted to leave to earn money, and yes, in Italy, which is what they say about Milan, for example, Italy doesn't pay that well, believe it or not, but what often gets players there is that 5 x 6 thing, you know, the euro. So if he earns 200 bucks there, it becomes 1,200, right? There's a tax involved, you know. Aside from the glove, which is usually a thick glove, sometimes the guy says: "Wow, living in Europe, living in Milan, what a great city, you know, that kind of thing." But keeping him here, man, it's a career project, playing 10 years for Corinthians, experiencing this club, making history. Man, Cásio played for over 10 years, Cásio had 700 games, he 's the second player with the most appearances for that team.

[00:55:47]It turned Cassio's story into a beautiful one, one of the greatest stories in 115 years. Do you think it's nothing, man, for you to do all this? Do you still earn a good salary?

[00:55:59]I think he, and his staff, can think about that, man. I'm a goalkeeper who could stay at Corinthians for 10, 12 years too, man. He can even break all the records, even the CO2 records.

[00:56:11]So I think that, okay, if he wants to live the European life in Europe, maybe earn a little more, but at Corinthians he doesn't have a small salary either, it's a right he has. But I don't know, man, if I earned little here and went to earn much more there, that's fine.

[00:56:30]There is, there is a financial aspect that I will not give up. Roger Gedes went to Qatar for the money.

[00:56:36]He continued his journey in China, but that wasn't enough; he wanted to continue his journey to point three.

[00:56:42]It's a right he has, but there was a reason for it; it's not to play in Qatar, besides that ridiculous schedule where they play every 10 or 12 days.

[00:56:51]But is Hugo really going to trade his Corinthians salary for a job in Italy? Are you really going to pay that much more? Look, I have a question, you know?

[00:57:01]I have doubts.

[00:57:03]But let's see, folks. I'm not going to guarantee that he'll stay, because I do n't think I can do that. The chance of things going wrong is high if we predict anything definitively. To be perfectly honest, let me share the results of the poll, speaking of Hugo. Let's see what people think.

[00:57:20]How many votes will you get, Rodrigão? Let me know later. How concerned are you about the drop in production? Oh, let's get 1000 votes to make it even better, guys. There are only 10 left. Come on, let's go. 1000 votes right there. Come on, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. 11 votes.

[00:57:36]Let's get 1000 votes! Those who didn't vote. Let's go. Only 10 left. How concerned are you about Hugo Souza's drop in performance after missing the World Cup? Total will feel 30%. It won.

[00:57:49]Total will feel average, I confess, 26.

[00:57:53]small, nothing exaggerated, 24 and no one takes the 20 lightly, that is, only 20% believe that it will not shake him in any way. The other 80 believe so. I find that quite impactful.

[00:58:11]Different degrees, small, medium or large, but 80% of the fans think so. Wow, only 20 that aren't. I'm in the middle of it. I don't think it's going to be small, I think it's going to have a medium impact. I just don't think he 'll feel it so intensely, you know?

[00:58:29]I don't think so.

[00:58:31]Of those games that, man, I can't even play anymore, I want to quit. Ah, or to concede 14 goals in four games, because no, I don't think that's the case, that the guy just completely loses his mind, but I also don't think it's insignificant, because he was frustrated, he really wanted it. That's the impression I get. Okay, here it is, 164 votes.

[00:58:57]Thank you very much! You guys are more than amazing. Thank you everyone.

[00:59:01]Thank you for your kindness. Thank you to everyone who wished me good luck with my VON channel project.

[00:59:06]I'll continue as normal here with my Corinthians, but if anyone wants to subscribe to Vessone's channel and give him a little support, it's on YouTube, Von's channel. We're there doing it. There's a live stream today, okay? 11 o'clock.

[00:59:15]Anyone who wants to join a different kind of live stream can tune in to Vezone's channel from 11 AM to midnight. Thanks everyone. Thank you Rodrigão for your kindness.

[00:59:23]Thank you for your attention. Sure, tomorrow I'll be back from 8 to 9 chatting here on my Timão channel, the biggest Corinthians channel on YouTube.

[00:59:32]May God be with you, we're in this together. It's us.

[00:59:34]Sure, as always. Go Corinthians!

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