The millennial generation (born 1981-1996) is experiencing a unique midlife crisis characterized by delayed traditional milestones like homeownership and marriage, leading many to feel they haven't truly 'started' living yet; this generation is predicted to respond by reconnecting with nature and seeking simpler, more authentic experiences as a form of self-discovery and escape from modern urban pressures.
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[music] [music] >> Yo, what's going on everybody? You're listening to another episode of Loud About Nothing. It's me, your boy, the hottest dude in the podcast game, Sebastian Canelli. And as always, per usual, I've got the cute boy here himself, Robbie boy. Robbie, say hello to beautiful people. Beautiful people, what's good?
>> Hello everybody. Uh we have not been here.
Bum bum ba bum. Uh we have not been here.
Um and the bad news is we're not going to be here for a little bit. We're taking a small break because of uh conflicts.
Lot of conflicts.
>> Conflicts, conflicts. So, um I'm going to be away, Rob's going to be away. We both have a bunch of other stuff going on and uh that is just the unfortunate truth of it. Uh so We've been very busy.
We've both been very busy. But hopefully we'll be back in in the summer. Uh in the middle in July some point we'll be cooking again, you know?
>> Yes, for sure. Uh so, we'll just be taking a brief uh break.
Yeah. You got to do what you got to do.
>> we've done almost 6 years straight. So, this is the reality of the situation.
>> This is the reality.
>> a busy year.
We had goals of pre-recording all the Patreons and all of the episodes for a 6-week break and that is was just too lofty of a goal. Our lives got too busy leading up to you having to leave. Yes.
>> Um but the Patreon will still be alive. We did record enough episodes prior to you leaving to keep the Patreon alive, which is exciting. So, yeah, head on over to the Patreon.
Obviously, we like giving the show out for free and we have more free content on the way. We like minimizing the ads.
We like giving you guys a free show at least once a week and that will be returning, but in the meantime Yeah, we'll have the Patreon still alive over there. I'll be actively checking that while you're away.
>> Amazing. So we'll we'll have that going on. And then we'll be back. They'll be back. It's not like yeah, just a a mo- a momentary break.
Um but we're here right now. We're here right now.
>> All that you have is the moment.
>> All you have is the moment.
>> All that's everything that everything there's It's so everything comes back to the moments in life, you know? Sure, yeah.
Which is so beautiful. So all we have is the moments. And you know what's funny?
What? The moment that we put that we are sharing right now is different than the moment that they put that out. I think about that all the time. What do you mean? The moment that we're doing this now is is different than the moment that they're experiencing this.
>> Correct, yes. I always think about that, you know? I go, oh, you you're my moment is different than your moments. Yes.
Which is beautiful in some ways, you know? Yeah. Uh but you always have the moments. Here Here I am.
It's there's this whole thing going on.
Millennial midlife crisis Absolutely. is happening. Have you seen these? Uh a little bit, yeah. That millennials like the first millennials will be turning 50.
Really?
Wow.
Interesting.
They're coming up on 50 millennials.
>> 50, yeah, that I guess that makes No, really?
I thought millennials is like '81 to '96.
They're coming up on They're 45. Okay, so sure, then they're 45. Yeah. All right, they're 45. All right, they're not turning 50 this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see. I see. I see. I see.
I see.
>> But millennial midlife crisis is among us.
And no one is more prepared for a midlife crisis than us, [ __ ] bags. Us?
>> I've I yeah, I feel actually uh midlife crisis proof in a way.
THERE'S NO LIFE. NO.
>> [laughter] >> OH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN, MID? I'M STILL WAITING FOR IT TO START. SOMEONE GOES Someone's like, "Yo, millennials don't have a midlife crisis." I go, "Mid mid I I I understand the science."
>> yet.
>> [laughter] >> I still science.
I believe in science. I get that it's mid, but Well, I don't I'm I'm just getting going. I'm just starting to get move the train. Yes.
>> Every Every year I go, "Oh, next year I'll have stuff My life will begin."
>> [laughter] >> Well, yeah, I guess that's why I'm not going I feel like I'm not going [laughter] to have a midlife crisis because >> Cuz there's no life to be to mid it. Uh yeah, I've taken all those >> 85-year-old millennial finally feels like he began life.
>> Well, you don't have to >> [laughter] >> You don't have to answer the question, "What if I followed my dream at 50?" 80 You've got the answer.
>> [laughter] >> 85-year-old millennial finally owns apartments. It is in uh it is in >> [laughter] >> It is in a home.
85-year-old finally feels settled when he is in retirement senior citizen home.
>> [laughter] >> Mil- millennial midlife crisis >> his life. Mille- Finally, when when I hit the retirement home, when I hit that nursing home, I'll be like, That's it.
>> I've been waiting for [ __ ] years to get here.
No roommates.
NO THE FIRST TIME millennials are going to sue No Roommates are our nursing homes and retirement homes. What are we talking about? We'll be like, "Oh, finally, no one's in the kitchen. I can just walk in there."
>> Yeah.
Uh It's going to be amazing. It's going to be amazing.
>> Midlife crisis, what are we talking about? Yes.
Well, you This is nice for you. I'm in I'm still I'm still level one. Yeah. I'm still Pika. I'm I'm still uh uh Well, you're following your dream. I think the midlife crisis comes with like the the decisions the other decisions you could have made.
And it's the people who are in For this video, your midlife crisis in theory would be the opposite, where it's like you wouldn't be getting some like crazy car or whatever, you would be getting like a desk job.
Like that.
>> Wait, you What do you mean? I'm not living a crazy car life.
>> No, but you did the dream I guess you're right.
>> you talking about crazy car life?
>> compensating for not choosing This is like oh, I didn't get to live the exciting life or the dream life that I wanted, so I'm going to use my money and resources to buy like a Corvette and like they think that.
>> about over. Um >> You doubt that it's [clears throat] only that I tried for my dream that's going to make me want to buy a car. Stop doubting. Okay, so you do you want a car though?
>> [laughter] >> I have A MIDLIFE CRISIS I'LL DO A CAR.
OKAY. All right.
He pursued comedy for 15 years. He won't BUY A CAR. I I GOT A PLENTY OF REASONS TO BUY A CAR. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. But you're living your dream. I think that would be at from a place of like who gives a [ __ ] You're you're allowed to do whatever you want. All right, you're right. Maybe I am right.
>> You're giving too much power to the dream, Rob. You don't think that's what the midlife crisis is about? It's about staring death down the barrel. I think but that's what it is and then you're like oh, I made these decisions not based on how I felt or not true to me.
And I do do. But then I'm not going to double down. You don't do the reverse.
You don't have a midlife crisis and go I it's time for me to get me a puppy.
>> You're right. You're right. [laughter] Okay. Okay. All right, I see. I see. I go give me a log cabin. I'll just I'll create fingerprinting.
>> go further away. So are there Okay, I got it. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? NO ONE STARES DEATH IN THE DOOR and goes I need I need a 401k. I'm a boss.
>> [laughter] >> Yeah, you're right. And boss said a new counting job. I I'm trying to think of the good part of having a job and that's 401k. Correct. I guess, yeah.
401k Nice. Yeah.
Yeah.
But >> Whatever.
The only K I've ever had was ketamine.
Okay.
>> Berlin.
>> There we go. Shout out Berlin.
One time one time only 20s shout out.
>> we go.
I walk into my cousin had a birthday party this weekend. I walk in, he's mid conversation. Well, you know Sebastian Maniscalco has an Oscar.
>> [laughter] >> There's people there that want to believe that. Let them believe it. So that's it. No, you have a trophy.
I almost said he has You're right, he does. He has a hat that says Oscars from the Oscars [laughter] here. Uh >> even get it. And that's Oh, really?
>> Someone Someone else got it for me as a >> Oh, right. You're right. You're right.
>> [laughter] >> And it doesn't fit my head.
But that's the truth.
It was spoken into existence by someone who likes to talk New York [ __ ] and received by people who want that. And when there's a whole bunch of people that want that to be true and what and it becomes true, I think.
What What What What What do you mean you think it becomes true that I have an Oscar statue? What do you mean that you think that comes true? I don't understand.
>> True, you have an Oscar. Yeah, you have an Oscar proverbially. I don't know. [laughter] What do you mean it becomes Sure. For you, anything could be true over there.
I mean, my truth is me. Sure. Sure.
>> funny you think my midlife crisis is going to be uh um >> [snorts] >> CC'ing people on emails.
>> You've done that before. What do you mean?
Been like, maybe I got to go just get a real job. Because I couldn't afford to live. True. True.
THAT WASN'T A MIDLIFE CRISIS.
>> TRUE. That was That was I I COULDN'T AFFORD TO LIVE, ROB. TRUE. TRUE. TRUE.
TRUE. What do you There was nothing midlife about that.
>> True.
>> It was me going, I'm exhausted and I have no money.
True.
True. And it had nothing to do with that. Well, it was I had something to you're like, oh, it's I'm getting old.
I can't do this forever.
Yeah, I could I Yeah, I >> midlife.
Rob, I I was in the I'm in thousands of dollars of credit card debt and then couldn't afford rent or to do anything.
It was more [snorts] out of necessity.
Okay.
It was more >> That makes sense. It was not a Yes. It was more that I go my life is I'm living in in shambles. Yes.
I would sit in the I would sit in the kitchen with fluorescent lights and staring at the wall.
You're right. I'm sorry. Go maybe tonight I'll only try to eat two slices of pizza. Okay.
And then I go there and I go I'll do three. I think I agree. I agree. I think everybody in a midlife crisis is in shambles.
I think there's something relatable to it.
I mean unfortunately >> Questioning their decisions in shambles.
Unfortunately one of the greatest greatest representations of a midlife crisis is American Beauty.
I've never seen it. Oh, don't.
>> Who is um >> Who is it?
>> Who has the midlife crisis?
Tom Cruise? No, someone much worse. Who?
Kevin Spacey. Oh. Tough. Okay. Tough.
But he quits his job, he starts working fast food job, he's like lifting weights. Yeah.
Problem man, but perfect example of someone falling apart midlife. Yes.
>> But I just interesting for me millennials. What are we What are they going to do? Midlife I don't know.
I don't know. Millennials >> Midlife crisis stop doing the dishes so then their other their polycule has to do it. I don't know.
Why are we putting this on the >> [laughter] >> I What do you mean putting it on the Millennials are in a polycule.
Is that a millennial thing? I would say more more millennial. Yeah.
>> It's a millennial thing polycule.
>> Gen Z millennial. Okay. What do you think? I don't know. We we can put polycule on millennials. All right.
What are we going to do?
>> Swingers are Gen >> We don't have it. I think we don't have anything.
We don't have anything. Yeah. I don't know what there is to do. Maybe people will start quitting their job.
That would be nice.
Pretty nice. Um I don't know what the movie is really about.
>> seeds on the on the lawn. Just planting seeds. Yeah, reconnecting.
>> Walking around. Yes. I predict that there'll actually be an influx of people like midlife crisis people just going back to the earth.
That would be nice. I hope that that happens. I think that also saves the state of the world, too.
>> I think that that's going to be the millennial midlife crisis is people go, "I need to become one with the earth."
Yeah. I need to start touch I need to start It's a good observation. start touching some grass as they say, you know? I I need to start going, "Who cares about this? Who care I'm done.
I've done enough [ __ ] matchas.
I I I've not afforded rent and drank enough matchas that I need to go milk a cow." Yeah.
I I could see that.
>> I truly think that's what's going to happen.
Yeah. I watched The Sheep Detective this weekend.
Baa baa.
>> very, very cute.
>> Uncle Baa. You got to watch it. I will.
I will. I You got to watch it at some point. The one of the main characters is named Sebastian.
That's always hard.
It was a good Sebastian. It was?
>> It was It was like a really good Sebastian. That always make I My name is not common enough that when I hear it >> No, it's not common.
Well, in America. Yes.
That when I hear it, I go I look around.
You probably You ignore You could ignore your name out in the wild, right?
No, Robbie's not the most common. Oh, okay.
Robert, Rob is more common. There's not a lot of adult Robbies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's not a lot of adult Robbies.
Well, they move on. They move on. But this was cute and it is a guy Hugh Jackman plays a guy who is just like outside of society with his sheep in a trailer.
And that's he's very connected to that and it is nice. There's part of it that you watch and you're like there's something nice about this.
For sure.
Is he the sheep detective? No. The sheep are the sheep detectives.
Shut up. Shut up. These sheep got jobs?
These sheep are detectives.
>> These sheep got jobs? Yeah, they have jobs. Uh no, they don't have jobs actually. They amateur sheep detectives.
There's a job to do. Yes, this is their first First case. First case. First case. Wow, hope it's the last unless they really >> it's the last too. Because this is a case of passion.
Yes.
>> We always hear of the the crime of passion but never the The detective It was It was a detective of passion situation. It was really really cute.
>> think ah it was a a crime of It was a a crime of passion. But what about the detective of passion? Can it be a normal crime WITH A DETECTIVE OF PASSION?
>> Um it was Yeah. I don't want to spoil.
Oh, please. But it was a detective of passion.
>> Wow, wow. I love the detective of passion. Of course, I hear a murder happens.
Detective of passion is definitely prevalent. I'm trying to think of an example in like media but it's like um I want to say John Wick in a way. I mean that's that's assassin of passion.
Assassin of passion.
>> Assassin of passion, it's nice.
Um But like yeah, I got to take matters into my own hands and >> person one movie that you would show all your friends when you were a teenager.
>> Oh, Mystic River. That's a That [laughter] is an assassin detective of passion.
>> detective of passion. That is. You're right. Robbie 14. God, you >> You're right. That's Sean Penn. Bad detective of passion.
>> [laughter] >> GUYS, COME OVER. I SAW A MOVIE YOU'RE ALL GOING TO LOVE IT. WHAT is it? Austin Powers 2?
>> 11th grade. 11th grade. What is it? What did you watch? OH, IS IT ANCHORMAN? YOU WANT to watch Anchorman? Nah, man. This shit's going to be amazing. It's going to blow you away.
>> Mystic River. MYSTIC RIVER.
>> [laughter] >> WHERE'S MY WHERE'S [screaming] MY DAUGHTER? WHERE'S MY DAUGHTER?
>> [laughter] >> AND YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE JUST STARING AT THEM? SMILING. You almost have you you have your chair facing them as they watch a TV and go, "IT'S PRETTY GOOD, RIGHT?"
>> MY DAUGHTER? WHERE IS MY DAUGHTER? WHERE IS MY DAUGHTER?
ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE'LL do a double feature, Sophie's Choice after this.
>> [laughter] >> I think we'll do a Sophie's Choice after this. Absolutely.
>> Wow.
Sophie's Choice. YOU ABANDONED MY CHILD.
YOU ABANDONED MY CHILD.
WELL, THAT'S AWESOME.
UH YES. YEAH, we should do. Yeah.
Yeah, that's awesome. We should do Yeah, that's I mean, that's incredible.
>> it. Millennials are loving this movie. I think that you're actually right.
What? That they're going back to >> That they'll go back to nature. I think so. I mean And reconnect. Because we I >> [sighs] >> We live in such a [ __ ] up world that down the block from me >> [snorts] >> a Taco Bell Cantina and a Pilates studio just opened up.
>> Okay. Now, nothing makes me want to [ __ ] die more than those TWO THINGS.
>> COMBINED? COMBINED.
>> YEAH, I I agree.
>> [snorts] >> No one is shaming someone more for going to a Taco Bell than someone at a [ __ ] Pilates studio. [laughter] YOU GO, "WHO CAN WE PUT that >> is this? The most judgmental people What Yeah, that is hilarious.
>> next to a Taco Bell. Just years ago we had combination Pizza Hut Taco Bells, and now we have combination Taco Bell Cantina Pilates.
>> Pilates. We are moving too fast.
Up No one That's crazy.
>> is judging you more about general If someone goes, "Oh, this this guy this woman this person was judging me really hard."
Nine times out of 10 they do Pilates.
>> Pilates, yeah. They're doing some sort of Pilates class.
>> Okay.
Now, you tell me where you want to be more of an animal than at a Taco Bell.
>> Yeah.
You tell me where you want to be more >> so true. That is so true. This is just like why are we doing this? We're creating conflict.
>> Rob, I dress I I wear You know how the guy on the news who's wearing the mask for the CIA? I wear that to go to Taco Bell's.
>> Okay.
>> [laughter] >> I'm scared now.
>> Yeah. I'm scared for my people.
>> Yeah, why put the Pilates studio next to That's crazy.
It's You know what needs to be there? A doggy daycare. You know what it needs to be? Literally, a high-end marijuana dispensary.
Anything. If we're going to have a Taco Bell Yes. You can't do that.
>> No, that's crazy.
>> Not to my people.
>> No. You want to talk I believe that lightning will strike between that.
Okay, I like that.
>> This will I the earth will split and divide.
Or Taco Bell will be closed. Okay, all right. I have a question. Not that you This is good.
But have you ever thought of fighting fire with fire?
Going to the Pilates studio?
>> Yeah, making fun of these Pilates people.
The Taco Bell people fighting fire back at the Pilates. It's hard.
>> It is. It's really hard to make fun of someone who's on a who's stretching >> lengthens and tones.
When you got a little Diablo sauce dripping onto the shirts. [laughter] When you got a little Diablo sauce dripping onto the shirts. When you got Baja Blast in the goatee, it's hard to go, "How was that stretch, mama?"
Yes, okay. And you don't want to deal with that.
This is the thing that's the real The people going to Taco Bell don't want conflict.
No. They don't want to argue. They don't want to be They don't want to be around that energy.
This is the two paths of the millennial midlife crisis.
>> [snorts] >> Okay. The reformer or the reformee, which is Taco Bell.
Okay, you think Pilates or Taco Bell?
These are the two These are two clear paths.
Outside So, Pilates, Taco Bell, grass.
Yeah, but I'm just saying if you're in the city, those are the two options of living you got right now. These are really the two options right next to each other.
>> Yes. For sure.
And that's what it is. In England and the UK, you can't wear jerseys to like soccer jerseys, football jerseys to bars because it causes fights. Really?
It's Well, because they like people rep because it's neighborhoods.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that you can't wear A lot of the bars say no jerseys.
>> No jerseys. Wow. No flags. Yeah.
>> They call it, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting.
>> like the hooligans, so you know, it is gang preventative measures to stop violence.
>> At the highest degree, it's gang and and a neighborhood or like hooligans. At the lowest, you're arguing about soccer.
Yeah.
I think there are certain bars that you can, but there's like there's it'll be a sign. Yeah, yeah. Or it's like this is an Arsenal bar. Yes. If you're going and not wearing Arsenal, then what are you doing? Yeah, get the [ __ ] out of here.
And I think they have no problem. Cool.
For a polite group group of people don't get tricked by that. We we we thought the UK was a bunch of queens.
They're a bunch of queens.
>> [laughter] >> There's There's a whole part of the UK that is Jersey Shore. Okay, yes, I agree. Chavs, I think they're called.
That They literally walk outside. They have their spray tan. They have their >> it. I really I saw the show, People Just Do Nothing, and it's kind of that those types of people. They're incredible.
>> And I was a really big fan. Yeah, they're really funny to me, and I am a fan. [laughter] Those are my people.
>> Yes. You know what I mean? Not not London. No.
They were like West London. I told you.
Like yeah, outside of London.
>> outside of London, they were were It was very funny show. But, um the I agree that there are Jersey Shore types in the UK, for sure. And so that So, we have to remember, people get rowdy over there. Correct. We cannot So, just like how there are, you can't wear your flag or your jersey because uproar is going to happen. Yes.
I cannot be going There cannot be 60 Uber Eats guys outside of a Pilates studio waiting for for them to deliver their the Chalupa to someone who's bed high.
>> You're asking for an argument.
>> We are asking for >> for an argument.
That's still You're right. This is what people that are making decisions about how the world is affected are so dumb and don't understand anything.
And that's on display. I go, "Taco Bell?"
>> Yeah.
I go, "What are we doing? We We have a a fancy chain French bakery now. We have a [ __ ] Pilates studio and then a Taco Bell."
>> That's crazy. What doesn't belong? I don't know.
Shout out SATs cuz this sounds like a [ __ ] question.
Yeah, that's crazy. I don't I just can't go to the It's too rowdy by that's by the studio. It's too rowdy.
>> I think yeah, the Pilates studio will probably be the first to go. It's too rowdy. I can't It's too much. But this is what it's going to be.
It might not be.
Taco Bell also is the fast food of the the middle class and the upper class.
Well, that's what they'll indulge in more than any other fast food though.
Okay, you think so? Yeah, definitely.
Why? I don't know this.
Why?
Because they have options outside of just burgers burgers. Okay.
>> You could get like an assortment of things. Okay, interesting.
I think that there's a a cheekiness to it that they like.
Taco Bell. Yes. It's like that uh It's It's fake food. Yes.
We got to start calling stuff not food.
Yeah. No, there's a lot. Almost all of it's fake food.
>> We got to give other names. We got to start using another name for stuff.
I don't know. Yeah, we got to we got to call it something.
Legally soon. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
>> No, maybe not legally soon. Not legally soon, but Maybe maybe not. I I hear It should be legally soon. Yeah, yeah.
>> If there was any competence, but Uh I didn't know that. I didn't put that together, but that's interesting.
>> They a lot of like middle class they'll go, "Well, I'm going to get Taco Bell."
But that's their indulgence. It's like The first time I ever had it was on Notre Dame's campus. And it was the one on Notre Dame's campus. That was the only fast food on Notre Dame's campus.
>> Yeah. It won't be in the future.
>> Pizza Hut Taco Bell, but yeah.
I used to go to a combination KFC Pizza Hut Taco Bell.
And what would what would the movie?
>> [snorts] >> I would get chicken chicken strips from KFC.
Chicken strips from KFC, nothing from Pizza Hut.
Which I get. Nothing from Pizza Hut.
>> Pizza Hut's its own endeavor.
>> I just can't do The Pizza Hut's too much.
>> That time I went I think I got like a like a Alfredo chicken pasta [laughter] dish. I didn't even get uh Taco Bell that night, but I like I'm a Taco >> To get a $12 Alfredo chicken pasta dish at 1:00 a.m. on Notre Dame's campus is kind of crazy. Yeah, that was sick. But that's the only thing you can do then.
Yeah.
Pizza Hut. Yeah, didn't know Pizza Hut.
>> I get some chicken strips usually. I like I like the strips, you know?
>> Yeah, same. I'm not a big bone-in guy at at at a KFC. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah, I think it's very fair. Yes. I think that if I'm eating at home I I could do a bone-in. I think if I'm getting it from the grocery store or around I'll do a bone-in.
>> KFC, we're already there. Yes.
>> We're already there.
>> I agree.
Well, at Buffalo Wild Wings you can't judge someone for getting the boneless.
Yes.
>> We're already there. I agree.
>> What are we talking here?
>> They stuck the bone in the boneless. You know what I mean? Like we're not What are we playing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's so funny the judgment around what you eat at these shitty restaurants is so funny.
Cuz it's getting shittier and shittier.
So, I think when we first started we were very against or we were very pro these chain restaurants and everything.
Yeah, man.
>> it's changed.
>> up in I I I grew My first job was Applebee's. Yeah.
I love the the Cheesecake Factory. One of the only um chain restaurants that still cooks in house.
Okay, that's great. That's great. I literally the bro Bare minimum. Bro, you go that's To even say that's great is mind-blowing.
>> I know. I know. To be like, "Oh, Cheesecake Factory cooks in house?"
Wow, get the [ __ ] out of here. Cook their food. I KNOW. WOAH. WOAH.
>> [laughter and gasps] >> THAT IS CRAZY. You're right. I know.
It's crazy to even have that thought.
>> Yes. But, that's why people love I mean, I was a Panera dog back in the day.
>> Me, too. Me, too. Me, too. I was a Panera dog. That broccoli cheddar soup used to run through my ass.
>> Yeah, sure. Sure. I was a Panera dog.
>> way. I agree.
>> [snorts] >> But, it's >> probably the first place I really had sourdough.
Okay.
>> With a bread bowl surrounded surround a bread bowl that was had broccoli cheddar soup inside of it.
From Panera.
One time I got caught eating the mac and cheese out of a bread bowl.
What does this mean got caught? I thought I was doing a solo sesh at the restaurant.
Got caught by who?
A couple people. That you knew? I knew right up Oh, Sam.
Hey, hey. Put the top You know what's bad? You can have [laughter] mac and cheese.
You know what's bad?
>> Red alert.
You know what's bad when you put the top on top of the bread bowl?
>> [laughter] >> You cover it up for company.
I had to cover it up for company.
>> what's in there. [laughter] I go, "WOAH. WOAH. WOAH. WOAH." MORE BREAD AND CHEESE IN THERE.
I GO, "UP. UP. UP. UP. UP."
GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE.
WHO WAS IT? WAS IT people from an improv class?
>> Yeah, a couple improv people right on 29th Street, 28th Street. Back in the day?
>> Back in the day cuz I would live in Staten Island. So I would I would do I was boys with the guy at Panera. Him and I would go smoke blunts around the corner.
>> Oh, that's nice.
>> Yeah, it was great. Me and him were buddies. We had He didn't know my name.
He thought my name was Sal. There we go.
What you like? Loved it. We had a I had a real relationship with the guy.
>> Yeah. And he didn't know my name. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> And I would have to tell people before we went in I go >> [sighs and gasps] >> My man Marcus thinks my name is Sal.
Just so >> Okay, okay.
>> [laughter] >> That's great. So I'd be there in there.
I'd be high-fiving everyone. Everyone be saying what's up to me. Yeah. And I would just spend time in there cuz I had hours cuz I would be at home. Okay. I live in Staten Island, so it wouldn't be worth it to >> you would kill time. So I'd kill time cuz you could get unlimited free drink refills. That's nice. They had a bulletin board you could go look at.
They had free Wi-Fi, so I'd bring my iPad.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is good. But then one day I I meet people there. I'd be like that was my office. I'd go come come come come Come meet me at the Panera. That's fine. Yeah, of course.
Come meet me at my office, you know?
>> Yes.
>> I'd I'd take the whole upstairs. The whole upstairs was filled with my people. That's good. And then occasionally I would go downstairs to a corner booth to be real secretive. Oh, wow.
>> I would do this the booth under the under the >> Interesting. under under the stairs.
>> If you didn't want to see your people that day.
>> I didn't want to see my people that day.
>> All right, that's nice. So then one day I go, "Yeah, I'm going to have the I'm going to have the the macaroni and cheese."
And they go, "Oh, you want bread, apple, or chips on the side?" I go, "Give me bread." And they I go, "And I'll do the 99 cent cookie cuz you can get a cookie for 99 cents."
So I get the cookie for 99 cents.
And then they go, "Do you want that mac and cheese in a bread bowl?"
Rob I look to my left.
>> [laughter] >> I see no one.
I look to my right. I see no one. I check the phone.
Okay.
>> No missed calls. Put it on airplane mode. All right. I go, "Yeah, I'll do the bread bowl. I'll do the bread bowl."
>> [sighs] >> I'll do the bread bowl. And it's okay because that was Sal. Yeah, Sal was Sal was getting bread.
>> And he would do the bread bowl.
>> And Sal [clears throat] would do the bread bowl.
>> Yeah. And it goes They go, "Do you want to Do you want to" And they would give me free drinks all the time. Okay. I would always get a free cup. Free cup. I walk in, cups would be You know, like You know, like in the mafia in the beginning of Goodfellas when they'd be handing them handing them $20 bills for walking in the joints, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was me That was me with cups at Panera Bread in 2004 2002, excuse me. Okay.
>> 2002, I couldn't walk into a >> 2012. 2012.
>> to just jump 10 years. [laughter] 2012, I walk into a Panera I'd be People be high-fiving me and all of a sudden I had a couple of them in my hand.
>> Oh, okay. I got love that. A couple couple >> You're a racist.
>> my hand. I got it. I got it. Cups would always be end up in my hands.
>> That's a That's real magic tricks.
So, I would get the cup and I go, "Okay."
>> loaded.
Let me do the Arnold Palmer. So, I do an Arnold Palmer.
>> Build your own or you Excuse me? Build your own Arnold Palmer or Build your own.
50/50. Nah, depending on my mood. So, the machine. You're doing You're building your own.
>> I lied. Okay, not building. This would be if I was having if I was having mac and cheese in a bread bowl with a side of bread and a cookie, I was definitely getting a Diet Pepsi.
>> Okay, yeah. Okay, there we go.
Diet Pepsi for that. They did Pepsi products.
>> Okay.
They did No Coke products.
>> Yes. Can't believe I remember that even from 2002.
2012.
And so, I remember I hid under the I hid under the stairs like Harry Potter.
Okay. Harry Potter Harry Potter and the the case of the lost bread bowl. Like Dobby from Harry Potter.
I don't know.
Shout out Um Shout out >> Harry Potter also I think lives under the stairs at one point. All right, so then how was I like Harry Potter and the uncle all at same time?
>> There we go.
That was you.
That was me. So The guy The kid that plays his his brother his um his cousin in that in the beginning.
Yes.
>> He's a really good actor now.
Yeah, I think he Was he in He was in Macbeth. Oh, really?
>> Yeah. He was also in that new Queen's Gambit, was he in that? I believe so. And he was in the new uh movie the S&M movie with uh um uh Skarsgård.
Alexander Skarsgård.
Yeah.
>> He's a good actor, that guy.
Harry Melling. Yeah, he really turned into one hell of an actor.
>> Yeah, he did.
>> I'll tell you that. Which is great. We love that.
>> Well, we love that. He's he's getting great parts. He's doing great. He's killing the parts. He's not who I would expect. Oh, wow. He's born 89 also.
There we go. Well, I was like I was like Harry Potter I was like the whole Harry Potter family. Hiding under the Hiding under the stairwell.
Oh, Potter crew. And all of a sudden Okay.
You're under the stairwell when you get approached. I'm under the stairwell.
>> Oh, wow.
Back to the room.
>> Exactly. And you can't get escape now.
And the thing The only The only The only flaw in my plan was it was by the bathroom. Okay. So, I'm eating I'm eating a macaroni and cheese I'm eating macaroni and cheese out of bread by the bathroom under the stairs. Okay.
>> 2002. Bread on the side.
>> Bread on the side.
>> Cookie on the side.
>> Cookie was done before the meal before I opened the bowl. I like that move.
Yeah.
You save the best for last.
I I like it, too.
>> Yeah. Also, it opens up your appetite.
>> Yeah, I agree. I like that move.
>> Sugar opens up your appetite. Everyone goes, "Ah, you don't need sugar afterwards. It makes you hungry." Oh, it makes you hungry. Let me eat it before.
Yes, exactly.
>> That's how you getting down bread bowls and mac and cheese.
You know.
You know science. You're not an idiot.
Thank you.
So, they then they all saw me. Okay.
Rob.
You ever You ever experience a conversation with someone and they want to leave cuz they're uncomfortable for you? Okay, that was what was happening.
That was what was happening.
I'm playing Jetpack Stream Man. Okay.
They go, "Oh, >> You think it's just like, "Oh, I thought he was cooler than that." I thought What do you think was happening?
>> I think I was just existing in such a private moment. And they Okay. They go, "Oh, you're writing?" Cuz I would write on my iPad. They go, "Oh, you're writing?" I go, "Yeah."
They could see it's Jetpack Stream Man.
>> [laughter] >> They could see I'm playing >> Yeah, but Bit of a scene. Jetpack Stream Man. I put the lid on top of my bread bowl.
Mac Mac and cheese on my shirts.
>> [laughter] >> Feet up to the to the other side of the booth, so my feet are resting shoes off.
Shoes off inside the Panera.
>> This is don't question the artist process. Shoes off inside a Panera.
David the It was all This is great. Everyone said, "What happened to Chelsea?" Sal came.
Sal came.
>> [laughter] >> Sal Sal ruined Chelsea. 2012 >> or Chelsea just the neighborhood?
>> Chelsea the whole neighborhood. The whole neighborhood.
From the bottom of the stairwell?
>> I'll tell you this. Have you been to Chelsea?
>> We were running out of this office at bottom. Okay, I have been to Chelsea.
>> It's It's from when it What it used to be to now?
>> it's changed.
>> It's not It's for the worse. Okay.
And Sal did not help. All right, Sal was uh facilitating the change a little bit.
And I never seen these people end the conversation so quickly. Okay.
You wanted it over. They could sense that.
>> I wanted it over.
>> All right. Are you still friends with any of those people? No. No. We never spoke again. Never spoke again? Were they improv people. They were improv people. Okay. We never really We never weren't really that friendly. Okay. And then after that it was not. Okay. Stayed not friendly. Damn.
But I mean, we need safe places that we could eat food shamefully. Yeah.
>> And that is safe.
>> And that is safe. The food is safe. The food Yes. Safe is Yeah. The very very operative word safe.
And the Taco Bell next to the Pilates studio is not going to be that.
>> No, I agree. Definitely not. That's not going to be a place that you No one wants to be going. That's part of And it's I think that something that I love the really a lot about New York City is that you can just experience your full range of emotions in public and there's a lot going on and people can You know who kind of let you be. You know who says that? What?
>> People that didn't go to high school in New York. Why? Because if I cry on the train, I always bump into someone I went to high school with.
Okay. True. People that move to New York City go, "Oh, it's so great. You could cry on the train." Not me. I could bump into my high school football coach.
>> doesn't matter if you bump into your high school coach. He's seen something more crazy that day than Sebastian Canale crying. That's more of the point I'm trying to make. I think that people like the anonymity of crying because no one looks at them. They go, "I could cry on the train. No one bothers me. I could just have a good cry and get off." I see.
Yeah, I mean, one time I'm doing this crazy dance in my whole little JP Morgan outfit on the train and my best friend from high school What was on the train?
And he's like, >> safe. What's up, Robbie? I I run into people all the time, especially now from work.
I work in a I just see a lot of people in the neighborhood that I work in at work. Rob, I'm actually That's just the reality.
>> I go out on the streets, I bump into people every time I leave the house.
It is not safe for me to cry on the train. It's safe for a person that moved from Okay, you're right.
>> from Minneap- from Minnesota to here that that has a a crew of 10 people.
They could cry on the train. You're right.
>> Cuz everyone is everyone isn't real to them. That's all that means. No one's real to them and no one's going to bother them.
They're finally >> To me when I'm like there's Yeah, I guess those people are Yeah, I don't know.
I just feel like it's not you're not going to judge me. Like I don't know.
It's to me I'm like it should be a judgment-free zone.
Cuz we're all dealing with it. No.
>> That's where I get the sense of community from. Like I could be whatever.
in public >> If I I was on the train once and I was having a rough day and I saw some kid I knew from junior high in his construction uniform going home. I'm sitting there with the backpack and I'm having a rough day and I saw he saw me and he turned his back to Billy you.
Oh, not even? He He just turned his back He looked at me and went turned his back to me. This is a real story. Real story. Recently? No, 10 years ago.
>> Okay. All right, 10 years ago. Okay. But like this is like I think that people that are like you could cry on the train and no one bothers you isn't scared of bumping into someone from junior high school. Okay.
Yeah.
Sure. I always get a There's a little part of me that I go There's a little part of me that goes Yeah, BECAUSE YOU DON'T [ __ ] KNOW NOBODY HERE. OKAY.
YOU DON'T [laughter] [ __ ] KNOW NOBODY HERE. THAT'S WHY YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE CRYING ON THE TRAIN. I KNOW PEOPLE HERE.
>> YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. I CAN SEE MY GUIDANCE COUNSELOR, MY MY BULLIES, MY CRUSHES. THEY ALL LIVE HERE STILL. THEY DIDN'T GO NOWHERE.
THAT'S LIKE GOING TO THE [ __ ] THAT'S GOING TO THE QUICK CHECK BUT YOU'RE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW?
You're not safe.
They feel safe because they don't know nobody here. I see that. I can see what you mean. Their 10 friends that they go to [ __ ] the rooftop bar with on the weekends and then they work from home.
You're right. You're right. You're right.
>> I'm not safe crying on the train. I guess I don't care if somebody I think if somebody saw me that I knew from my life crying they would help me. I don't know. They would be like, "Are you all right?"
>> But do you want help from from my actual worst nightmare? It would be [laughter] one of those people crying.
>> be one OF THEM TRYING TO HELP ME?
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
SEE, [gasps] YO, SEBASTIAN.
What's in the bread bowl? Let me help you. Oh, >> [laughter] >> [ __ ] bro. Are you okay? Hello, are you all right?
>> Just sit down be like, "What's going on, bro?"
>> Let's unpack the bread bowl. Hold on.
Hold on, yeah. I'll go Yeah, yeah, I still want the I still want three perks.
I'll be there I'll be there in 10 minutes. You remember Sebastian? Yeah, the big kid? He's not good. Hold on.
Oh my god. Help him out. He's crying on the train. Yeah, I GOT TO HELP HIM. He's crying on the train. Yeah, the loser from the place. Yeah, I seen him. He's crying ON THE [ __ ] TRAIN. YOU UP IS HE YEAH, HE'S STILL FAT.
[ __ ] KILL ME. THIS IS WHAT AND THEN YOU THIS IS THEIR PRIVILEGE. THEY MOVE HERE THEY DON'T KNOW NOBODY AND THEY cry on the trains.
>> you're right. And they go, "New York, you could cry on the trains." You have to >> [laughter] >> All right, you're right. You can I can't.
>> I'll I'll take that. I'm going to bump into one OF MY OLD ENGINEERING TEACHERS AND THEY GO, "OH, I guess that was a mistake to drop out of the [ __ ] program." I guess it was a mistake. No, you have an Oscar. Even worse. I bump INTO SOMEONE THAT'S SEEN ME LIVE. OKAY.
SEEN ME LIVE and they go, "OH, I LOVE YOUR COM OH, NO.
>> [laughter] >> I HAVE NO THERE'S NO ANONYMITY.
>> You don't have anonymity. I don't have So, everyone goes off and I DON'T THINK PEOPLE THAT WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL here have anonymity.
In certain neighborhoods.
>> And and And and around the city. Yeah, you're right. I mean, I don't have that much anonym- I run into people all the time. And I have since I moved here.
But my worst nightmare is running into someone and then they try to comfort me.
Okay. That's your worst nightmare.
>> I gained respect for someone once when I was walking down the street crying. Cuz this happens. Yeah.
They go, "Oh, you could cry anywhere in New York." No, the correct statement is you have nowhere to cry so you have to cry anyway.
>> [laughter] >> Okay, you're right. That is the correct statement.
>> And so you have to cry anyway.
>> In the suburbs you go in your car. You go in your car and you cry like a human being.
Here you [laughter] have to cry like a [ __ ] animal on the streets. And everyone goes, that beautiful?
I always give so much respect for someone because I was walking down the street crying and they saw me and they saw I was dropping tears and they went like this. They went Hello?
>> [laughter] >> ALL RIGHT. SALUTE.
>> I CLOCKED THEM. I go, you're a real one.
>> You're right.
>> I love you. Thank you. I didn't like you before this, but now I love you because at least I know you have some social cues and norms in your life.
They they comforted you in that moment.
That was the best thing they could have done.
Um all right, you're right. I'm sorry. I apologize.
>> You can have this I have this opinion. I just don't You do I just don't I crying on the train? Yes. I saw Sebastian.
What was he doing? He had a family?
>> [laughter] >> Did he have a girlfriend?
What what what what what what's he like coming who's in a suit? Nah, stained t-shirt.
>> [laughter] >> Was it was it did it look did it look like it fit?
Nah, looked like it used to fit.
>> [laughter] >> Look Look like the kid was wearing a shirt that he used to fit and he and he's sitting there crying. So what what what what did it look like something just happened?
Looked like it'd been happening for years.
Midlife crisis.
You think I'm going to go BACK TO THE OFFICE, ROB?
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT. You're right. I'm wrong. I'm wrong today. I'm wrong >> [laughter] >> today.
Uh My safe space. You're right.
You're right.
>> Me, I only cry on the Roosevelt Tram.
You're right. This was a good You're right.
That was that was very true, Sebastian.
I just I hear people say it all the time. Yeah, no, you're right.
And these are people whose whose network of people I these my network isn't that big. I just know people from growing up here.
Sure, yeah, but yeah, that's a lot of people.
Um no, you're right. And I run into people all the time. You do? I really I do too much.
>> if you taught swim to someone and you helped them and then you're on the train dropping dropping tears.
Yeah, that there's just yeah, when you're here for a long time, you just know a lot of people around this place.
Uh I've always lived with an hour from here.
So, I yeah, I do see a lot of people, although less and less live in the five boroughs as I'm getting older.
I see people still. I'm sure you do. Um I'm sure you do.
>> from Staten Island moved to Brooklyn, actually. A lot are my age or to the city, you know? I know a bunch of people cuz that was always like >> of Jersey people are in Jersey City. I'm sure if I was walking around Jersey City, it would just be like all the time. Sure.
Like all the You went to college in deeper New Jersey, yeah, yeah, also. So, them moving to Jersey City is them moving closer to the city. Yes.
So, I mean, no, it is I I used to run into people almost every day. Like it was crazy. There was a time where that was the case.
But, that is true. That is very true.
Um I'm at the I'm at the Taco Bell. I'm at the Pilates studio. I'm at the combination Pilates studio Taco Bell.
Cantina. [laughter] >> [gasps] >> [ __ ] Crazy. I agree. So.
Well. But, I'm not as I was saying, I'm like not even crying in public ever.
>> [laughter] >> This is the thing I just I'm more dancing in public. I'm more like making an ass out of myself in public or I'll be on the phone yelling or like get passionate in public.
But, That's different.
>> I'm not crying in public really that much.
>> I grew up with saw me screaming on the phone, they'd go, "Oh, Seb's doing good."
>> Yeah, that's true. You're right.
Especially arguing. Yeah. Yeah, he's good. He's good. He must be making moves.
>> Yeah, that's true. You're right.
>> moves.
>> You're right. This is the Staten Island brain.
>> moves. Yeah.
Not you. Yeah, you go, "Ah, crying You can cry anywhere in New You're the guy who invited everyone over to watch Mystic River and stare at them. You're right. You go, it's a safe place to cry.
You can cry here, in my basement, right now. Come over to my basement cry.
What's the matter, K? You didn't think that was sad enough?
I don't see your cheeks are a little dry.
You're kicking people out of the friend group because they're not dropping.
>> [laughter] >> You're not You're not dropping. If you don't drop, YOU GETTING DROPPED.
YOU DROP, BUT YOU'RE DROPPED, [ __ ] DROP THOSE TEARS OR YOU'RE OUT OF HERE.
>> YES. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. Sometimes you got to drop them. For sure. I'm lucky cuz I have a car and I cry in it like a That's good. Like a human being. Like a Like a human being.
>> being. Sitting in there just >> [snorts] >> staring at the rain for an hour.
Just dropping. I have cried in the car.
With me? No, in general.
Yeah, it's good. A A car cry is good.
>> Yeah, yes. With me? Not with you. Just in the back seat. I don't think we've cried in the car together. I hope not.
It's too intimate. Too tight of space.
That is intimate. That is intimate.
>> [clears throat] >> To cry in a car. I was like taught I was going to go see this movie and I was like I My friend couldn't go and I was like I'll wait to see it with you, but we need to be comfortable crying in front of each other. What movie? The sheep movie cuz people had been saying they were crying.
>> I'm gone for a month, Ralph. No, not you. I'm talking I was talking to somebody else. Uh About it. Oh.
And you're like we have to be We're good. You're You cried in front of me for Space Jam, so. I snorted. I was crying in my sleep.
>> [laughter and gasps] >> But >> Oliver saw Space Jam first time. First one? Yeah. He liked it.
>> Loved it. It's great. Went outside, instantly was playing basketball.
>> It's great.
>> You got it. There's nothing like watching Space Jam as a kid and going straight to the hoop.
>> I know. Straight to the hoop.
>> I know.
It's great.
That's amazing. That makes me happy.
>> Oh, straight to the hoop. Remember I bought him the jersey when he was a little baby? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll remind him of that. I'll get him on the phone. You know I bought you a jersey.
>> [laughter] >> You know I did this for you. You know I REMEMBER I I I REMEMBERED I REMEMBERED.
He remembers. No, he was a baby. He doesn't remember. He remembers that you do nice things for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not I'm not worried. I'm not He knows that you do nice things for him. That's That's what you do. Also s- When someone when What I love about someone is that they do nice things for them. That's they I think they should be like could be better. What do you mean?
I'm not doing enough personally to take care of them. If it's like they do nice things for you, know?
Like buying somebody stuff.
>> Yeah, yeah. You think it's That's the I'm not there enough, so this is my last resort how I'm doing this. Yeah. Sure, yeah.
Being there is the best.
>> Of course.
>> Yeah, quality time.
Uh he gets me good gifts. That's not going to be me.
>> I agree. I agree.
That's not what I offer best either. No.
I mean think about Yeah, remember I showed you the video of him liking the 7-Eleven pizza? Yes. It's not a good gift, but I want to be there for him.
But anyone in general, you want to be there. I'm just talking generalities now, not him.
I also I mean I think at the end of the day you're not going to buy someone a gift that's better than your presence.
Depends who you are. Depends who you are. I'll tell you this. No, I mean that's what Not family, not your nephew, not whatever.
Not people that you actually love and that want to spend time around you. And I think it says a lot of about what I think of the person if it's like, oh I like them because they get me gifts. And it's like, oh that's good.
>> Yeah, would I rather spend uh 24 hours with Sebastian or have him buy me a pair of jeans? It's like [laughter] no, I'd rather hang out with my friend. Sure.
Then get But some people want jeans. And some people I would rather get jeans from than hang out with the 24 hours.
You're right. And that's important to think about. But I always want to be someone who the 24 hours is more valuable than the jeans and I want to hang out with people and have people in my life where the 24 hours is more valuable than the jeans.
Yeah. But you got it's good to have a couple people that follow you.
>> [laughter] >> It's good to have a couple YOU GOT TO FILL THE POSITIVE, BRO.
Lower on the the lower the ball. All right. Lower. Sure, you're right. And they know who they are.
>> Yeah. You only go to them with the to advance.
>> Yes. With the people in like jeans relationships, it's just like oh that's interesting to me.
Or they're both in that way.
Yeah. But hey.
I guess to each their own. To each their own.
Those are business arrangements and hey, that's part of that's part of what it is. That that's in some ways how marriage as a certificate was started.
What was that?
Marriage as a certificate as like a legal document.
>> Certificate. Certificate. As a legal document. Shout out Shout out the legality of marriage. Shout out the >> Keeping us honest from day one.
>> [laughter] >> Keeping the love out of marriage.
Exactly, right? It keeps the love out of marriage, I guess. Yeah. I know that we never did our summer bucket list.
Okay, yes. I'm going to these places.
Yes.
I would like to try something new in every place.
Something is just like a noun.
What are you bringing grandma? What do you mean? What what why are we bringing grandma? Like food. It doesn't have to be food. It could be an activity. It could be any noun.
>> Yeah.
One one new thing.
One new thing.
One new thing.
>> you What are you caught up on? No, I could be like I want to try a new food.
I don't know. I try a new I would like to try something new.
So it could be a activity.
Yes. Okay. It can't be >> One thing so four new things. Four places, four new things. Four places, four new things.
Okay.
I was thinking It doesn't have even have to be do with the things. Okay. The places, you know?
Yeah, okay. So, first one I was thinking I'd try [ __ ] ring.
Um that's [laughter] I thought you've tried it before.
Maybe.
Maybe.
I don't know. Have you?
No. No.
I would.
Yeah, don't Yeah, that I'm not >> You're not a No one should be.
All right. No, I would I would like to See all seriously, I want to try four new things and I want to account for what they are. Okay, that's nice.
We'll revisit that. And I think that it's important and >> [clears throat] >> I was complaining I was complaining and being like, "I don't have this planned.
I don't have this planned."
And my friend was like, "Ah, you got to Anthony Bourdain it." I go, "He lived in a different time." Yes. I think that I like love Anthony Bourdain so much and people bring I see so many reels of him.
He lived in an era where lines around the block for a restaurant from Tik Tok didn't exist. That you didn't need to get a reservation for a place two months out because three people said they liked it that were famous.
>> Yes. I have This is like a more and more thing that I've been hearing from people that are traveling that they didn't get their reservations in in time and then just like couldn't go to a lot of the hot spots.
Yeah.
>> Which is annoying because I do like to live somewhat spontaneously on vacation. You can't anymore.
Even so, like three years ago we kind of did.
And >> Lisbon.
Yeah, we got the one reservation early.
Yeah. And then everything else was really day of.
Which was great, but we were almost >> anymore. That doesn't exist even that much anymore.
>> Three years. I could see that cuz we were already close to missing things. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
There was a couple of things that we almost, you know >> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we could have planned a little better. Damn, that's sad. So, hopefully, I don't know, you'll be in places for a week, maybe like you could pop into a certain thing.
>> I'm doing the whole Tuesday thing.
That's the thing. But, everyone's like, "Ah, you just Anthony Bourdain-ed you know?" Multiple people have told me this, which I think is great advice.
But, I like think I'm thinking about it.
And the last person to tell me that I was like, "You can't." Yeah. That's impo- That What do you mean?
What do you mean?
I You can't Anthony Bourdain it.
>> No, I agree. I agree. Well, he's going to parts unknown.
>> Yes, yes, yes.
>> The whole title of the show was parts unknown, no reservation. We don't live in those worlds anymore.
>> I agree. 100% is good. I have all about you just speaking truth to the logic of how [ __ ] people are talking.
>> We live in resi worlds.
>> Yes, I agree. That's We live in a world where people buy reservations.
>> 100%. No reservations doesn't exist.
>> doesn't exist. It's on Instagram. It's on TikTok at this point. Every single open business.
Everything. Even the shitty ones.
>> Yes. And 100%. Everything has a reservation. Everything has a reservation, that's good. Everything has Everything's known.
>> Yeah, I agree. What can I do?
>> inch of this earth. I guess Look like Anthony Bourdain, what they want me to do? Heroin?
THAT'S THE THAT'S ACTUALLY BOURDAIN-ED That's That's the more feasible option.
Heroin at 3:00 a.m. around a fire in the middle of the streets in a bad neighborhood. Because resis don't exist.
>> baby. Resi Resi exists.
>> I There's There's no such thing as no reservations, and there's no such thing as parts unknown. I agree, yeah. So, I don't know what I'm going to do.
Yeah. I mean, you'll meet with the people, I guess, that are in these towns, and they'll give you some good advice for like local spots, and you'll see what the locals starving artists do there, which is like That's not I mean, that is what it is. I mean, that's the experience here. If somebody wants to get the starving artist experience in New York, it's not that fun. No. But >> Starving ar- what am I going to take them be like, "Ah, this sandwich, they take the cold cuts and they chop them up into pieces."
Yeah.
I don't know. This is you take them to the combination Taco Bell Cantina Pilates studio. That's where you got to take them. And and like >> Cuz that's where it exists. And they the I remember like getting local rec- recommendations for places and like in the UK they were like, "Go to the good this gas station's amazing."
Yeah.
You didn't come to London to go to the gas station.
>> I went to the gas station. Oh, nice. And how was it? Amazing?
Not bad.
I'll tell you what.
>> one. One of the better foods meals I ate in when I went to the UK was from a gas station. Really? Yeah, isn't that crazy?
>> That is crazy. All right, so they were right. They were right.
>> All right. Listen to the starving artist. I saw today on Reels, which again, I'm like, is this just AI? I don't know. Not a it was like a infographic.
But it like presents in the Reels tab now.
And it's talking about how Anthony Bourdain's greatest strength was how he just was able to change his mind, which I appreciated. That is good. And he was like he thought a certain way of vegetarians and then he was like, "I was wrong." He thought a certain way of foie gras and then he was like, "I was wrong." He thought a He likes foie gras.
He liked it and then he was off it.
>> I I don't like it. I think it's a cruel animal to eat.
>> both It also tastes disgusting.
>> we had it and then we're told what it was.
Yeah, and remember the guy was flexing be like, "What is that? Do you know what the flavor is?"
>> Now we both hate it. to jamoques. Yeah, had no idea.
Like we eat foie gras.
>> Yeah.
Uh but it was talking about all things that he he flipped the napkin.
>> No.
>> [laughter] >> Well, wasn't it it was like a hand napkin. It went through his hands.
>> fit around my arm. I was too fat FOR THE NAPKIN.
HERE'S THE THING, when they brought out dessert and then you're too fat [laughter] for the napkin.
They go, "No dessert It was a bracelet. It was a bracelet.
[laughter] >> fat for the bracelet.
>> an arm sleeve. It was a bracelet. It was a It was a glove hand hand mask.
>> [laughter] >> Hand cleaner. You ever go to a restaurant and you're too fat for the napkin? Shout out Michelin star.
Two.
>> [laughter and gasps] >> Two Michelin stars.
Maybe if it hit the three. We need a We need the three the three X, not the two X.
>> [gasps] >> I was too fat for the napkin. I'll tell you what, that dessert never tasted so good. It was good.
>> I was thinking about it the other day.
That dessert never tasted Nothing like being too fat for a napkin and then eating the best dessert of your life.
Uh, but he changes minds. He changes mind a lot and publicly. That's what they were also like publicly changing his mind was a big part of his success in this infographic. Which I liked and I think that we do that and you have to do that. I have a lot of thoughts on that.
Okay.
>> One, people don't need public opinions.
Sure. Also that. He needed it. Yeah, for sure. He was a public figure on a topic that people wanted his opinion on.
But, yes.
I believe there's ways that you could be private and help more than public and help. But, whatever. That's a different thing. I just I would just think change your minds. Change your mind. Be open to changing your mind. Be open to new information. Trends change. I would He's like, "I was behind the trend on the vegetarian thing and I was wrong." The world changes.
>> there's the places where they eat vegetarian strictly. Yes. I'm sure it gets And it's like, "All right, this is a different part of the world. Yeah, how could I have this opinion when this is like so ingrained into the culture of this place?"
>> Also a lot of places in Europe eats beans most, you know? They eat beans, beans. Yeah.
But, no. I think it's very important to be able to change your mind publicly in a sense, not necessarily on Instagram or social media or like, but just to your friends.
Be like, "Hey, I was on this for a long time and I was wrong."
And now I'm off it.
>> Shout out the wrong man. I think it's good to be like, "Oh, I was wrong."
Here's the thing.
>> I apologize. I was wrong. I was very wrong about that.
>> I'll hang out with the guy that's wrong about five things that admits he was wrong about one because I believe he could change that Yeah. than a guy that's only wrong about one thing but will never change on it.
>> I agree.
I agree.
That's necessary, I think, to work with someone, especially in today's day and age of just Like things are changing so rapidly, you're going to get stuck.
Yeah.
If you only view things through a certain lens, you only view things that this should be done this way, or this is what the situation is, or this is the rules, you need to be able to adapt as fast as ever, I would say.
Uh, your opinions and just like how you're trying to react to what I don't know, like that's how I feel at least, I don't know. Yeah. I'm sure some people feel more set into a routine or whatever, but you got to be able to take in new information and change way you're moving somewhat quickly.
People also are shaped by their environments too, Rob, Yeah.
I agree. Some people their life is going to work and then going to wa-wa and then going to work.
>> Change is scary. Yeah, new thing is would be scary for them.
>> I think everyone's going to have to face change with now these data centers that are literally taking over the world. Us millennials aren't even going to get to touch touch the grass. We'll see. Yeah.
But We're going to have to Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to get into that.
>> Yeah, I I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
>> No, no, of course.
>> terrifying.
>> That's just the reality.
>> We'll see if I We'll see if I come back from Europe.
Sure. We'll see.
>> fantasies of not getting on the plane back.
Isn't that crazy?
Not really. I've just been fantasizing I go and then I'll just become a Swedish A European man. European man.
That's nice. That's nice. But I would never do that. Um But there's there's moments I go, "What if I don't go back?"
>> that. We were talking about it last year. What if I just stayed? Where should we go?
What if I What if I What if I land in Finland and I go, This is it. Back to your people. Boom.
Swedish friends. Bring me the sauna.
Dude, that's it. Bring me the sauna.
>> Full circle.
Take me to church.
Well, [laughter] well, thank you all for being patient with us. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Um I hope that Rob, you didn't say if you had any summer plans or any summer I I want to learn four new things. I will report back on these four things.
>> a good tourist in New York City, maybe.
Do something fun in New York once a week.
>> you I went to the Brooklyn Museum was beautiful. Yes, you did. Have you been?
Yes, bunch of times.
I'd love that. I went to you The Sopranos exhibit, maybe.
>> Yeah, you did. You've been doing stuff.
Yeah, I've been doing stuff. I told I said on Matty's podcast shout out that I was I've been accidentally doing The Artist's Way.
Really? I know. Yeah, we've been Accident- Accidentally artist. Yeah.
[laughter] We talked about it in the beginning of the year about the big takeaways. And there's some good stuff in it. Like Three pages What have you been writing three pages a day? And then doing an artist date? I've been doing the poetry. I've been going to see new things. I've been listening to books.
I've been watching movies instead of watching reality or garbage TV. Yes.
So That is good.
I've been learning a new skill, cooking and more and more.
>> are. You're doing You're on top of your [ __ ] Nobody's more Sebastian's taking care of himself, which is good.
>> Nobody's doing it more than me right now.
>> That's good. That's very Nobody's artist's Am I doing my steps?
No. Call Julia Cameron.
Who's that? She's the creator. Ah. Kirk sister?
Kirk Cameron? What does he do? He's from the TV show. Now he's a Christian. Oh, I've never >> [laughter] >> seen it.
Julia Cameron wrote The Artist's Way.
But that's nice. I'mma do more [ __ ] like that, I think. wonder >> she created.
What?
Kirk, Julia Cameron. I wonder if she's an artist.
>> She just maybe just did the artist way.
Incredible. She might have just created the way of the artist. That's incredible. Well, it is good. I mean, we talked about it earlier in the year.
I want to do Yeah, do some stuff in New York.
Organize my life a little bit. Save up some money.
Get ready for the second half, the back nine of this year.
Yeah. I mean, I've been trying to go to New York. But I went to a bakery called Radio the other day. Oh, I think I've heard of this.
>> Yeah. It's popular, right?
>> like, "Oh, this will be fun."
I go, "What what what do people love?" I stroll up to the counter. I go, "What do people love?"
I like I like that. That's a good question.
>> love here?"
>> [snorts] >> And then she goes, "Oh, this."
I went out the other day >> I should have picked what I liked.
>> And I Yeah, I mean, yeah, I asked the guy >> no, you know, you'll never guess what she said people loved.
>> What did she say?
>> A ham and butter sandwich.
>> Okay. Ham and butter.
>> [laughter] >> I Literally, a a doctor a doctor just passed out.
Ham and butter. Ham and butter.
It was gross. I didn't even eat the whole thing, Rob.
Oh, yeah. I can imagine.
>> like it.
>> Yeah.
That's not what you were going >> have just got I saw they had fresh bread. I should have just ordered a loaf of Fresh bread, yeah.
>> I should have just got a [ __ ] loaf of bread. I agree, yeah. I should have just got a loaf of bread.
Yeah. So, you went out?
Uh I went out the other night and uh there was like an empanada stand by where I was at and there was like we'll say two veggie empanadas left, two beef empanadas left, and about 15 chicken empanadas left. And I was like, uh which what do you people like?
Whatever. I don't know. I'm just like conditioned to say that.
And he's like, [snorts] "Oh, the chicken. Everybody's obsessed [laughter] with." And then I look and there's just so many chicken. I'm like, "I'll do the guy a favor. I like chicken empanadas."
Shut up.
>> [laughter] >> But yeah. And then he's like but trying to sell me on the chicken empanadas cuz that's what he has way of the most of.
Sure. And >> chicken though.
>> Then we're chit-chatting. Then he goes to put on the tip thing. Then he wants to talk next. I'm like, this guy sounds hilarious. But I I appreciated it.
>> Sure. And that was the first thing I ate all day and it was like 10:00 p.m. So then I like went back, got more chicken empanadas. I'm like, I'm like, "Do this guy a favor. Clear out some of these chicken empanadas for [laughter] Because I'm like, what do people like?
And it's like, the only one that there's a ton of. Oh, yeah, it was great. I mean, you can't really [ __ ] up a empanada that badly. So I'm also like, what am I saying? As long as it's not too dry.
Yeah, it was fine. Um But it was funny.
Yeah, so like some of these people I guess I'm like, oh yeah, people have alternative motives with the With the what do you like the Yeah, what do you like the most, for sure. Which they got to hustle. Sure.
And I can't I can't knock anybody's hustle. So. Yeah, but I went to this place Radio the other day. I was like That's tough.
>> I was like and I was like that. And outside they had this thing like a rope set up like there was going to be a line and then there was no line and I'm like, [ __ ] losers.
Nothing more embarrassing than showing up to a place and they have a bunch of like movie theater ropes outside and be like Stay clear of the >> the ham and butter sandwich.
>> [laughter] >> Stay clear of the ropes. I'm sure the place is great. I'm sure that >> With the red carpet, yeah.
>> Like if I got something else it might have been good, but like Yeah. I've heard of it. People like this Radio Bakery. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm like, and [ __ ] Nothing more embarrassing than having ropes set up at a bakery. And [laughter] there's nobody there.
I walked right up to the [ __ ] I walked right up to the counter. And you come you can you get their most popular item and you can't even finish it.
>> [laughter] >> THE HAM I WAS LIKE I felt so gross eating the [ __ ] ham.
>> get out of the door and it's in the garbage. I was like this. I was like The line out the door. What the [ __ ] do these people think?
No, I know. I couldn't believe it. But I bet you they have good bread.
Hopefully.
For them. Um so you got to try to do a couple new things couple touristy things a couple of nice things.
>> Few things in New York. Yeah, get my nervous system hopefully back to some level of relaxation, but Relax, Rob.
>> That might be You got to relax, bro.
>> a tall task. No, you could do it. I can do it.
But yeah, that'll be it. I'm excited. Um beautiful, so We will miss you, obviously. I will miss you. The people of the podcast will miss you.
>> Of course. I'll talk to you more than them.
Well, it's nice to be missed. That is good.
I think it is nice to be missed.
>> It's nice. Also, it's nice to I'm going to journal, I decided. That's good. I'm going to I'm going to get a book.
It's the same person who gave me the artist's way. a Bourdain advice said, "Oh, but you should journal."
That's good.
>> "You're right."
I go, "Do you have a journal?"
>> is good. Do you have a journal? I go, "I talk on the pod a lot." Yeah. So and I write down my thoughts. I get my all my thoughts out in a lot of ways, but I'm going to be away not getting my thoughts out.
>> Correct. And I think that is good and there's a lot There's just >> You have a lot to journal about. Yeah, I'll have and I'll be experiencing new things and it'll be nice.
It'll be good. It'll be good. It'll be good. So I'm thinking slow morning.
I might have my I have my spiritually I know who I'm going to be when I'm there.
Okay.
the What is his name? Donatello T Yes.
What's his name?
Slava? Slava, right? Yeah, I don't know.
I think his name is Slava.
As we talked on the Patreon about my the saunter, so I will be sauntering.
So but I will make sure I'll be I'm sitting on sitting outside somewhere with my book.
June 7th >> I was slow this morning because I decided >> That's good. I think you writing how you feel, processing the world.
Yeah, processing a lot of things. so it'll be good. EPL Yeah.
E pray >> EPL baby. EPL baby.
That's good. EPL in New >> I'm doing a little EPL moment. Yes.
So, I'm going to try to do that in in New York. I'm going to do it in New >> Cuz I don't get to do that in New York as much.
>> You got to EPL. Yes.
>> Who knew it was going to be an EPL summer?
That's what it's going to be. You always had Europe on the agenda for the >> So, who knew it was going >> I got more EPL [laughter] Who knew it was going to be an EP EPL summer?
>> Correct.
Uh but sometimes you don't get to choose the summers you get. Sometimes >> No, you don't. Sometimes you got to live the summers that life gives you. 100%.
>> this summer this year life is giving me an EPL and eat pray love summer. Yes.
>> And I'm going to go eat, pray, and love. Oh God.
Oh God. That's beautiful.
Um so, I'm going to look up to the sky. See, now I could cry in I feel safe crying in in Copenhagen. Okay.
>> Cuz no one knows me.
>> there. You'll be just >> safe crying in Vienna with my morning pages. There we go.
>> knows me? They say something to me, I I go, "What's the matter?" And they go, "Never Never mind."
>> [laughter] >> "What's the matter?"
That's when I feel safe. Yeah, that is good.
>> So, I'm going to feel safe crying all over Europe.
That's wonderful. So, you can go cry over all over Europe.
>> I'm I'm people come to New York to cry and go, "I feel so safe." [ __ ] that.
I'm going to feel safe crying abroad.
That's amazing.
You should. It's oh God. You're so right. EPL EPL baby. Um well, I'll catch you guys after the trip.
>> Yeah, we'll see you guys in a few weeks.
Beautiful. Join the Patreon. Even if you don't um subscribe or pay for the Patreon, just come join as a member. I'm going to be checking that. Keep the communication alive.
>> You're going to keep Yeah, I'll post the the episodes each week and respond to the comments. Great. Maybe I'll toss a little some conversation topics up.
Nice. Um while we're away, but yeah, please join the Patreon even if you don't join as a paid member.
Um and I'll try to be on top of that for the the six weeks. Keep the the communication with the fans alive or the listeners alive cuz we appreciate you guys a lot. I love that. Um a lot a lot a lot.
And then yeah, well hopefully yeah, we'll be back for the the second half of the year. Beautiful. All right, Robbie, hit the music.
>> [music] [music]
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