Q&A with Fr Joe | May 28, 2026

Added: 2026-05-30

[00:00:16]Hello everyone. Welcome to Joe and Black Ministries. I'm Father Joe CUP AND YOU ARE NOT. AND TODAY TODAY IS FRIDAY, MAY 29TH, YEAR OF OUR LORD 2026.

[00:00:28]A howdy hi to all of my thugs and to Vermont Mike, my favorite agnostic. And a special hello to all those who mowed their lawn this week with a rusty push reel mower.

[00:00:39]With those important welcomes in mind, let's hop on the hot mess express.

[00:00:44]Carrie, uh, my collar is not done.

[00:00:47]>> It is not.

[00:00:47]>> It is not. Okay. So, we're going to take a commercial break while I put my collar on. It's going to take a very long time.

[00:00:53]And what we should do is like, okay, I just did it. And we should have like people run out and like start powdering my face. You know how you ever say that?

[00:01:01]Put the towel around my neck and start working on just my makeup and my hair.

[00:01:08]Um, do you remember what we were talking? Do we even start? Jesus. Okay.

[00:01:12]He says, "Hi." Uh, and some of you Jesus said to tell you knock it off. I don't know what that's about and I make no judgments. I don't know about this thing you do called sin.

[00:01:27]Are you going to tell everyone what you did yesterday?

[00:01:30]>> Okay. Come, Holy Spirit. Oh, the the the the the winch on the Yeah. I Huh.

[00:01:38]>> Actually, I was talking about what you did before that.

[00:01:42]>> Oh, the Oh, yeah. Okay. Uh, sorry.

[00:01:45]Yesterday was such a weird day, >> wasn't it? And not a bad day. It's just like today, I was just thinking this, sis. We are changing gears so radically and violently every two hours, right?

[00:01:58]Which is fine. It's part of being a priest. It's like you're sitting with someone crying and then the next meeting they're yelling at you and then the next meeting you're doing something glorious and beautiful and and it's just this constant emotional gear shifting. Um what were we talking about? Oh, so yesterday we placed our apostles statue in their proper place and I can't tell you how breathtaking this is. And like what irritated me a little. I'm just going to say it.

[00:02:31]>> Okay.

[00:02:32]>> I took really good pictures and it doesn't capture >> No.

[00:02:38]But I really appreciated what you commented to me last night that we're gonna hold off. putting a bunch of pictures out until our tribe has a >> an opportunity to see it in person this weekend.

[00:02:50]>> We wanted to publish pictures, right?

[00:02:52]Just because we're like a better church than you now um in the name of Jesus or something. I have no idea where that window cleaner came from.

[00:03:04]>> Isn't that funny? There's >> no window cleaner appeared on my desk.

[00:03:11]>> Yeah.

[00:03:13]or glass cleaner. I don't know. So, I sprayed it on my glass eye and then I remembered I don't have one.

[00:03:21]Um, sorry.

[00:03:23]>> That was a weird thing to say.

[00:03:25]>> We do have video of you going way up in the lift.

[00:03:28]>> Oh, yeah. your fat priest got on a lift that wobbles and we went I believe if I do the math right 13,000 ft in the air just right in that area and uh we picked up these statues and you know put them over the thing and put them in their slots.

[00:03:54]Um St. Matthew is fat. There's no other way to put it. He weighed more than the other statues. And uh we're putting him on keto. No, we're gonna get him those shots.

[00:04:05]>> GLP ones.

[00:04:06]>> What's that?

[00:04:06]>> GLP1.

[00:04:07]>> Is that what that is? We're going to get him those shots so everybody thinks, "Oh, is he sick?"

[00:04:15]>> Like, do you remember when all of a sudden people hear you could tell? And it was like, "Oh my gosh, I think we I literally thought people had cancer."

[00:04:24]Is that terrible to say? Oh, stop saying that. No, I just mean all of a sudden it was like there's a lot of weight that disappeared quickly.

[00:04:30]>> Yeah.

[00:04:31]>> And there's two ways that happens.

[00:04:34]Now it turns out there's a third.

[00:04:35]>> I want to know if the clothing industry fighting back.

[00:04:40]>> Oh no. Yeah. Think about it. If you're the clothing industry, you are in cahoots >> with the pharmaceuticals because people are buying new pants, right? Uh, people are buying new [ __ ] and I'm sure that Israel's behind it somehow >> based on the internet. Um, tattoos.

[00:05:03]Um, yeah.

[00:05:06]>> Yes.

[00:05:06]>> How did we get here? Oh, statues.

[00:05:08]Matthew is Matthew is a portly fellow >> and um that's all I have to say on the topic. So, if you're anywhere near Graham Blake, Michigan, stop by Holy Family, check out our gathering area.

[00:05:21]Uh, and when do the angels go up? Is that soon?

[00:05:24]>> Yes. Well, our our wonderful carpenter Jeff Oh, yeah. said he has to go um do a little work where he actually earns money before he >> That's just rude. Yeah. Oh, he's got to feed his family.

[00:05:37]>> He's going to give me a shopping list of a couple of pieces of plywood and some trim. And I think in a week, something like that.

[00:05:44]>> Nice. Cuz we got two big old archangels.

[00:05:46]We captured them. These are not statues.

[00:05:49]>> Uh We said an archangel live trap. Um, it involves What would you attract them with? I don't even know.

[00:06:01]>> Something evil >> cuz they're going to fight evil.

[00:06:04]>> Yeah. Like I guess you'd have to like capture a demon and like keep it in a box and then be like, "Hey, this guy's tormenting me." And then I don't know. I just have a feeling we shouldn't try.

[00:06:18]>> Yes.

[00:06:19]Um, so >> it sounds like a lot of work.

[00:06:21]>> It sounds like a lot of work.

[00:06:23]>> And if it works, then what?

[00:06:25]>> Yeah. Then what do you do with it? Like, hi, Archangel. You're terrifying.

[00:06:31]You'd scare people away from church by accident. I mean, they just will be constantly going, "Be not afraid. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid." And then some people, they'd be like, "Oh, be afraid, >> Jim. We talk."

[00:06:42]>> Yeah. Oh, wouldn't that be it? Everybody coming in, they're like, "Be not afraid.

[00:06:45]Don't be afraid. Don't be Jim. We'd like a word as they're pulling out the sword, right?

[00:06:52]You're like, "Oh, no." And what if the wrong Jim approaches them?

[00:06:59]>> Okay.

[00:07:00]What were we talking about? How did we get the statue? So, come see them. Uh, and for those of you who are like, "Why haven't you labeled them?" BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME. Chill out.

[00:07:12]>> What I proposed is that we put the the uh monikers help me [ __ ] name plates out and make you guess >> right and like have a vote about this will distract people um like really make it so if everybody votes that that's Peter that's where the name plate goes whether it's right or wrong and then they'd all be yelling at each other instead of me >> here's a question >> yes >> should we just put up a paper one until we get the the permanent ones >> I think so just cuz I'm going to go a little crazy and I assume you are too.

[00:07:47]>> Yep. Mhm.

[00:07:48]>> Well, meaning crazy.

[00:07:49]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:07:49]>> You know, nobody's being jerk. Well, some are. Um, >> everybody's being lovely.

[00:07:56]>> Do you ever see the movie Come Holy Spirit? Um, we Were Soldiers once?

[00:08:02]>> We were so We Were Soldiers.

[00:08:04]>> We Were Soldiers?

[00:08:05]>> I think that's what it's called. The book was unbelievable.

[00:08:08]>> Really?

[00:08:08]>> So, I watched the movie and the movie was amazing. But there's a character in there, Sam Elliott.

[00:08:16]who plays a Korean War vet. This is the beginning of our involvement at K uh Vietnam. And he's this hardened old World War II Vietn or Korean War vet who's the I think he's the gunnery sergeant.

[00:08:30]>> Sergeant Major.

[00:08:30]>> Sergeant Major. Uh and every time a younger Marine sees him, you know, they salute. Good morning, sir. and he always responds with some awful what's good about it, right? Um, and there are just people like that there. Now, him it was funny and then it was awful because then when they're in this epic battle where literally the Americans are doomed and they're all going to die. They're about to be overrun. I don't know if you remember this. He looked at one of the guys who always said, "Good day, sir." and said, "Now this is a good day."

[00:09:11]Like, "Oh, we should have him on parish council." Is Sam Elliot Catholic? And is he available to be on parish council?

[00:09:19]>> There were a lot of goods in that movie.

[00:09:21]>> Dude, that movie was filled with talent.

[00:09:24]And it was phenomenal. For those of you who haven't seen it, they actually did a very good job. Uh this was all from the book by uh Harold Moore called We Were Soldiers and it was an offensive where the Americans were learning to fight guerrilla war, right? Korean War was the last one where we did the well the enemy's all over there and we're all over here and we're going to meet somewhere and shoot at each other.

[00:09:50]Right? Vietnam was all guerrilla warfare, nonconventional warfare, and the Americans greatly struggled to adapt. And Harold Moore was and they did touch on this in the movie. Uh the book was it was heavy. He is a super devout Catholic and Mel Gibson who plays Hail Moore insisted they include that family prayer time which they weren't going to put in but he was like this is a huge part of who he is.

[00:10:18]>> A deeply spiritual man. And in the end, he is the guy most responsible for the idea of using helicopters, in his words, like horses, right?

[00:10:33]That the way we used to use horses in warfare, that's how we're going to use helicopters. The crazy part is that first battle we were in in Vietnam, a very small group of Americans held off the whole freaking world for 3 days now at an immense casualty rate.

[00:10:54]But at the end of it, when they realized we're all dead, we're almost out of ammo, we're almost out of people, they just charged.

[00:11:04]and uh and it was they truly believe they were charging to their death.

[00:11:10]They took the hill and in a sense won the battle. And he always felt kind of bad about it because what his point was when he went home was we can't win this war. We can't fight like this. But the way the American military interpreted, wait, you're telling me 800 guys won that battle.

[00:11:39]Do you get it? The contrast for him was, "Yeah, we won, but look at the cost." And these are men who've been training for years. When you start bringing in drafties, they're trained for hours.

[00:11:53]It was fascin. Anyway, sorry, why am I talking about this? Do you remember?

[00:11:56]>> Okay. Um, Joanne says, >> Joanne, she goes with a parishioner or she knows a parishioner that goes to her parish who was in the unit that that movie was based on.

[00:12:08]>> My gosh. My gosh. And do you know it was true the military had no system in place? This was this is what happened to inform families that their kid or their husband was killed.

[00:12:22]So instead, get this, they sent telegrams through taxi drivers.

[00:12:30]>> So they show this in the movie. Taxi pulls up to your house and got a telegram. They don't know what it is.

[00:12:38]And these poor wives, >> right? I mean, cuz the casualties from the US end were immense. It was something like 50%.

[00:12:48]Um, and of course the Americans were still of the mind of this will be easy, right? We're going to Yeah. Wild stuff.

[00:12:57]Wild stuff. Um, we do have to talk about something very sad. Um, and very serious for a moment here. Um, because I've gotten questions and anytime something akin to this comes up, we get questions.

[00:13:14]So, um, I just want to brace you. We're going to talk about the fact that a professional athlete committed suicide yesterday. Okay. Um, so for those of you not familiar, uh, there was a Canadian hockey player named Claude Lemieux who played that I can think of, New Jersey, Colorado, I don't know. Uh, he was a nightmare.

[00:13:38]Um, if he he was one of those guys like Bill Lambe. If he's on your team, thank you Jesus. if he's not on your team, he's your worst enemy. Um, he had a defining a career definfining experience with CA with Colorado during all of those years where Colorado and Detroit would have fights and a hockey game would occasionally break out, right? And um Darren Mccardi, who is one of the baddest men God ever made, who's much much smaller than Lemieux, absolutely curb stomped him in a fight.

[00:14:19]Um and McCarti put up the coolest post cuz they were friends. They became friends years later. And um McCarti is just a good dude. But I don't know if you saw what McCarti wrote. He said, "If you were on the ice, you better watch your back if Lemieux was out there." He said, "If you're off the ice, Lemieux always had your back." Was a great thing to say. Um, so one of the things that inevitably happens when a very public figure takes his own life or someone we love does is I get asked, "Do they go direct? Can they do they have any hope of heaven?

[00:15:02]I get asked that in v with a various forms of sensitivity.

[00:15:07]What I'll urge you to do is look at the catechism. Do not listen to podcasters, including me, that would say anything different than the catechism.

[00:15:18]Um, and what does the catechism say?

[00:15:20]That quote, "We should not despair the salvation of those who take their own lives."

[00:15:29]What is this? It used to be that a person who took their own life, it was just assumed they went to hell because it is such a grievous offense against God. Right?

[00:15:45]As we've grown to understand the human mind and the complexities of the human mind, um the church has come to say we have no idea. What we trust is that for someone to sin, you have to be free to not sin.

[00:16:06]And if there was an internal or external force within them that prevented them from choosing, you know, so in the end we used to say taking your own life is such an awful thing that there's no way you can go to heaven. And at some point we came to understand taking your own life is such a counterintuitive thing that we assume there was something broken in there.

[00:16:33]Right?

[00:16:34]The key for us is when we find out this sort of thing to pray for their soul.

[00:16:42]Particularly for those of you not familiar with American football um and Dr. Benedict uh who um discovered this theory, it's a theory, but uh it appears to be very true that these men who play American football, who play hockey and somewhat rugby, although it's not as common in rugby because, not to be funny, they don't hit as hard, right?

[00:17:12]um that the multiple concussions over the years damage the brain in such a way uh that in the America in America for example we've had a rash of former football players who have taken their own lives. Um and the last 10 years they've done it by shooting themselves in the chest so that you could look at their brain because the thing with CTE you can't see it.

[00:17:42]without taking their head.

[00:17:44]Right? So, do not listen to those who sometimes with good intentions and sometimes just cuz they're broken will tell you, "Oh, they all go to hell." And don't walk that line either of saying, "Well, everyone who takes their own life goes to heaven." Oh, dear God.

[00:18:04]Um, it is not ours to determine who goes to heaven or hell. God in a good way could give a rip about our opinion.

[00:18:15]Um it is up to us to pray for the dead.

[00:18:19]Pray for their family. His son found him.

[00:18:23]Okay. So that's what I have to say on that topic. I urge you instead of giving any mental emotional energy or credibility to the people who can't wait to tell you with great shity who goes to hell.

[00:18:38]Um, no, no. We pray for the dead. Now, if you're one of my Protestant brothers and sisters and you're like, "Yeah, don't do that." I get you. Pray for his fam. Right. The key is we're praying.

[00:18:51]>> What do you think?

[00:18:52]>> I think that's lovely.

[00:18:53]>> Okay. Well, I'm a lovely man.

[00:18:55]>> Yes.

[00:18:56]>> I hear it all the time from the voices in my head.

[00:19:01]>> Everybody, I'm just going to apologize.

[00:19:03]You got a lot of very lovely fan mail this week. Well, you know, Carrie, you probably don't know this, but I'm a very reverend, a rare and distinguished title, merited only by the finest, nay, the humblest clergy like me, >> as I said.

[00:19:22]>> Well, the first one doesn't say anything nice.

[00:19:25]>> Well, I >> No, it doesn't say. Okay, here's the first one. Let's dive, right? Let's dive. Why did Pope Paul V 6 allow the novice ordo mass when from what I've read he didn't approve of it? No, he that that uh is a h every once in a while someone lies but they lie stupid confident and there's just enough truth in it, right? And then it just becomes the norm, right? Like everything you were taught about the Inquisition, it's baloney. It It's not just baloney. It's kind of evil because you're being told the opposite of what happened, right? Uh the same with the first two crusades.

[00:20:07]Everything you were told was stupid and wrong. Everything you've been told about Galileo is stupid and wrong, right? No one thought the earth was flat. I'm sure your teacher told you, "Oh, the earth was flat." Guys, the Greeks a 100 years before Jesus were like, "Yeah, it ain't flat."

[00:20:23]Right? Nobody thought the world was flat. Uh it's just people say these things and then they get passed along, right? It happens. So what did uh so let's look Pope uh Paul the 6th uh reconvened and completed the council um that John the 23rd opened uh and continued it. He reconvened the second council in September, let me see, of ' 63 and guided it through the rest of it. Uh he promagated a bunch of documents from it. Um and in the closing ceremony, he made this declaration.

[00:21:05]Quote, "We too by the apostolic authority conferred upon us by Christ join with the venerable fathers in approving, decreeing, and establishing these things." Right? He then rep repeatedly used that formula and not only that he was in charge of implementing it. Where people get this from um is in 1966 he gave a speech and in it he talked about how what we were trying to do was a pastoral council. We weren't trying to do anything dogmatic, right?

[00:21:47]um which is what they declare about every council that I know of um or not every coun other councils.

[00:21:56]Second, in the speech, he was like, "Boy, we screwed up the implementation."

[00:22:02]And I've told you that, right? Anybody who's when you talk about Vatican, you got a massive chunk of Catholics who are just like, "Yeah, that happened." I think you've got a very small group that are like, "Oh my gosh, it's the greatest thing. We should have uh, you know, female married priests uh dancing."

[00:22:22]You know, you've got another very tiny group that it's like it's an abomination.

[00:22:28]And they'll write books about it.

[00:22:32]And then you've got what I hope is the healthy attitude that just looks at the data and says, "Oh my gosh, we stink at implementation."

[00:22:40]And I know I say this all the time.

[00:22:44]What was I told? If you would ask me before seminary what happened at Vatican 2, I'd tell you what every Catholic know. It abolished Latin and it turned the priest around. That's what I knew, right? The priest used to do the bus driver mass. Now he does the looking at people mass.

[00:23:01]Yeah. Neither of those things are in the Vatican 2 documents. Not only that, the only thing the Vatican 2 documents say about Latin is make sure you keep it.

[00:23:12]Were you taught that?

[00:23:13]>> No.

[00:23:14]>> Were you taught that? Dad's asleep.

[00:23:18]If he was awake, he would tell you that's what he was taught.

[00:23:20]>> Calling out your father.

[00:23:21]>> Why did everybody say these things?

[00:23:23]Because that's what they were told.

[00:23:24]Well, who told them? The bishops who couldn't read Latin. I kid you not.

[00:23:30]>> Yeah. I mean, for those of you remember Bishop Carl Mangling from Lancing, he was at the second Vatican Council and up to the day he was at a bunch of them. He was a little what do you say like a secretary. He carried a brief. He always said I carried Cardinal Regali's briefcase, right? He's in every freaking meeting and he'd tell you, "Yeah, I remember getting home and going,"What is this?"

[00:23:53]And then he found out his bishop didn't know Latin. He could read it, but he was kind of guessing, right? This is where church Latin occurred, right? Way before Vatican 2.

[00:24:05]What is church Latin? Butchered Latin.

[00:24:08]That's literally what it is. It was people really didn't know Latin who just memorized the sounds and they screwed up the sounds.

[00:24:16]Okay. Um, it's if you if I did here at this church, a holy family, a Vatican 2 mass, you wouldn't recognize it. You you just wouldn't if we did it exactly like we're supposed to. And we're working toward it, right? I'm going slow and steady cuz we kind of have the last generation of Catholics who are frankly allin but who also will not believe me when I tell them we're supposed to be doing some Latin, right? We're supposed to be doing this and that. We're supposed to be chanting Lat. And I don't mean the chanting that priests and deacons do horribly, right?

[00:24:59]The Lord be with you and doesn't with you. Is it that sounds so awful but like this glorious polifous chant we're supposed to be doing all these things terms of the prefacing the people that's nowhere in there. We just started doing it.

[00:25:17]Um and what did he lament?

[00:25:22]We should have wrote them in their indigenous languages. Or what do you say the common tongue? Yes, >> because he knew Latin, right? The people in charge are like, "How did you not know Latin? It's our language."

[00:25:37]Isn't that a trip? So, all he did was what I do, and many priests my age and younger do. Uh, I wish we would have done Vatican 2. Instead, we did some weird thing.

[00:25:51]So when you read someone say and many people do, oh Paul I 6 never approved of that message. That's wrong. I read you his quotes. You can read his speech and not not the little parts that people take out but the speech. It's not that long 70 80 pages. Just kidding.

[00:26:15]Um yeah, he said what happened with the implementation of Vatican 2 was bad. It went way beyond what we intended. And that was the gift St. John Paul II gave for the first time.

[00:26:30]Somebody very clearly went, "No, we're going to do it right."

[00:26:37]And the left murdered him for it. And then the right were all like, "Oh my gosh, we love you, JP." And then give him a few years and nothing is enough for them now and they hate him.

[00:26:50]Yeah, that's weird.

[00:26:55]When liberals get less liberal and conservatives get less conservative, everything's better.

[00:27:01]>> Isn't that funny? It just shows you, right, what Thomas Aquinus said, "Moral virtue is always the appropriate distance between two extremes."

[00:27:09]>> Yes.

[00:27:10]Yeah, I just threw my pen.

[00:27:15]>> Do you remember when Dave Letterman was funny >> and he used to throw his pen like and not angrily, just fling? Okay, let's get back to the confessions. Okay, I submitted a question last week, but I did not give enough details. Shame on I'm just kidding. Are we allowed to lie/deceive to save someone's life? Yes, I've heard mixed answers on this, so I would like to see what you think. Yeah, you can lie to save someone's life.

[00:27:45]Absolutely. Are there Jews in your house? No.

[00:27:49]Right. World War II. Are there Jews in your house? And there's 72 of them? No.

[00:27:55]I'd lie like a carpet. I would.

[00:28:00]Um.

[00:28:02]Yeah.

[00:28:02]>> Okay.

[00:28:04]>> Well, that was actually kind of easy, wasn't it? Yeah.

[00:28:06]>> Well, you know, Carrie, when you're a very reverent, and before we get into you, Father Putty.

[00:28:13]>> Father, Father Putty.

[00:28:16]>> Sounds like an Arby's night. Hey, Elaine.

[00:28:20]I love my David Putty. I think it's pretty solid.

[00:28:23]>> I do.

[00:28:23]>> Hey, Elaine.

[00:28:25]Uh, before I forget, you know what we should do? We should welcome our foreign correspondents. PATRICIA AND VERONICA IN SCOTLAND. BREAN IN CANADA. A Sabine in Germany. Richard in England. Margaret and Ann in New Zealand. Chris in the Philippines. Finula and Kalin in Ireland. John in Spain. Jose in Mexico.

[00:28:41]Karen in Singapore. Eileen in Australia.

[00:28:44]Ben in India. Bella in South Africa.

[00:28:46]Francisco in Argentina. Did I ever stop and say how much I love the name Bella?

[00:28:50]Has that come up?

[00:28:51]>> I don't think so.

[00:28:52]>> Okay. I just love that name. Like Bella and South Africa. I want to meet you and hug you. I feel like Bella as a name you should hug.

[00:29:00]>> Can you You know what I mean?

[00:29:01]>> Absolutely.

[00:29:02]>> Like unless you're mean and have knives and pointy sharp things.

[00:29:06]>> Cecilia.

[00:29:07]>> Oh, Cecilia.

[00:29:09]>> Love that name.

[00:29:09]>> I do too. Uh I have a wedding today.

[00:29:12]Cecilia. And uh she has the name of an angel.

[00:29:17]>> Yes.

[00:29:18]>> Uh Francisco in Argentina. Sarah in Lithuania. Andrew in Baharrain and Kevin in Wisconsin.

[00:29:25]Don't forget, if you're going to buy, buy local. If you're in the market for a new or used car, you simply can't do better than Elsa Chevrolet and Grand Blank or Sarah Ford and Rochester Hills.

[00:29:35]Stop in, ask for Kyle at Alsa Graham Blank at Sarah Ford and Rochester Hills.

[00:29:43]Ask for Sebastian.

[00:29:45]You'll get a great deal, a great experience. Good dude. Right. Uh, in terms of religious articles, just today someone said, "Wait, someone randomly mailed me these this holy water and holy oil. What do I do?" And I bury it. Get rid of it. You have no idea what happened to that stuff. You don't know where it came from. You don't know what you're bringing in the house. Especially when they don't put their name to it.

[00:30:11]That's creepy.

[00:30:12]>> Yeah. I looked it up. Yeah. It it's from a shrine and there just wasn't anything very much other than >> shrine of the silver dollar.

[00:30:25]>> The shrine of people who make money off faith. Wouldn't that be hilarious? We need one of those. The shrine of people who make money off of faith.

[00:30:36]>> That'd be awesome.

[00:30:37]>> Um, okay. So, let's get back to the questions.

[00:30:40]>> Yes.

[00:30:43]Thank you for your dedication and hard work to enlighten us. Oh, I see what you mean. It's very All right. Thank you for your dedication and hard work to enlighten us about the faith and the history that surrounds it.

[00:30:55]It's been a privilege to watch your podcasts every week. Thank you. I'm so glad although I question your judgment.

[00:31:03]>> No, no, don't don't instill any >> Okay. Thank you. That's very kind.

[00:31:08]>> There you go.

[00:31:08]>> All right. I committed. Not me. This person did. I committed a mortal sin over 30 years ago. I'm sure I did.

[00:31:14]Actually, now that I think about it, probably a few uh I committed a mortal sin over 30 years ago. A few years afterward, the Catholic church I attended, oh dear, had a community reconciliation service. This is another bad implementation of Vatican 2. Just I'll walk you all through where we went in line like a communion line to the priest, but instead of receiving communion, you told them your sins. I was so overcome with guilt and fear of not being forgiven that when I got up to the priest, I started crying and couldn't speak. I'm so sorry. He was very kind and said something to the effect of, "Whatever troubles your heart, I absolve you from your sins."

[00:31:54]Does this count as absolution since I never actually confessed my sins? I felt relieved because he was so kind, but I've always had the nagging feeling that I need to do a traditional confession to receive full absolution. Thank you and God bless you. Okay, first I think your instincts are good here. Yeah. Uh I don't want you to think that that moment was wasted, right? Your tears spoke volumes uh particularly to our Lord who can look at your heart, right? But I think it's important for you uh to go into a confessional, you know, and explain 30 years ago and if you want, use this phrase. Okay? I committed a mortal sin and I was given general absolution.

[00:32:42]Okay? If you want, use those words. The priest should understand it and say, you know, I recently learned that it's important for me to say my sin and receive, right? Does this mean you weren't forgiven? No. That that's not what this is about. What this is about is the difference between mowing the grass and ripping out the root. Let Jesus rip out the root, dude. Let the healing go or do that. Let the healing go deep. That's what he wants. He wants you free. That's all. He doesn't need you to jump hoops. It's that he wants you free. And there is a freedom in naming that sin and letting Jesus cover it with his blood. I mean, think about it. Talk to me, goose.

[00:33:28]If somebody came up to you and said that story, except this is what happened and I really believe that my sin was forgiven, would you say the same thing?

[00:33:38]>> Yes.

[00:33:39]>> Oh, really?

[00:33:40]>> Yeah. So, if someone had the exact same experience and said, "I believe my sin was forgiven. Do I need to go to confession?" I would say, "Yeah." I mean, I'd say it like I did just now.

[00:33:50]>> Yeah.

[00:33:50]>> Um, why? It probably was forgiven, but reconciliation and forgiveness, like frankly, it's the sacrament of reconciliation, not the sacrament of forgiveness. Yeah.

[00:34:05]Forgiveness.

[00:34:06]God forgave you the moment you felt an ex not felt the moment you expressed sorrow for your sin and an intention to do better to reconcile reconcile re again reconcile meet you're meeting again um and it's allowing God to forgive the phrase do more than just forgive which is freaking awesome he's going to heal he's going to restore the relationship with you. Does this make sense?

[00:34:37]>> Yes.

[00:34:38]>> If someone hurts you, you can forgive them without them, right? I do it all the time. People probably do it to me all the time.

[00:34:48]But then there's a step that sometimes the person will come to you and say, "I sinned and I hurt you. Please forgive me." That's reconciliation if you accept it. Now the relationship's restored.

[00:35:04]How we doing?

[00:35:05]>> Good.

[00:35:06]>> It's why we say the sacrament of reconciliation. We don't call it the sacrament of forgiveness. Although forgiveness is a part of it, but the key is you're reconciled.

[00:35:14]I think one of the troubles we have with reconciliation as we do it sometimes is we treat it like a spiritual shower. Ah, got some garbage in me. Let's go wash it off. Praise the Lord. But something even deeper is happening. God's changing you inside out. He's Yay. So that's why people say, "Well, I don't need to go to a place for forgiveness of sins." All right, you really don't you do for reconciliation and it meets the human need. Right? So what does scripture say? It says, "Confess your sins to one another."

[00:35:49]Right? And people say, "Well, scripture says confess your sins to one another. I don't need a priest. I'm one another."

[00:35:55]Right? And here's what I got that no one else in your life that isn't a priest has. I can never ever ever speak about or act on what you tell me and if I do they take my priesthood away from me immediately. The church says at late taste intensity by the act of doing it I'm stripped of my priesthood. Do you trust your friend that much? Who are you confessing your sins to? Most people who throw that scripture at me have never confessed their sins to anyone except in a super general sense.

[00:36:27]We are filling a role as priests that obeys scripture.

[00:36:32]Can you If it says, "Confess your sins to one another, not some priest." Well, then we've got a great argument to have.

[00:36:40]I'm one another. I'm just one who's specially equipped and trained to frankly never think about it again.

[00:36:50]Yeah. Does this make sense?

[00:36:52]>> Absolutely.

[00:36:52]>> Oh, groovy. Okay. Okay. like, "Oh my gosh, I decided that's the voice I'm going to use."

[00:36:59]>> Okay.

[00:37:01]>> Recently, Archbishop Hicks succeeded Archbishop.

[00:37:07]Recently, Archbishop Hicks succeeded Cardinal Dolan as Archbishop of New York. Is Cardinal Dolan subject to the authority of Archbishop Hicks in anything other than a technical sense?

[00:37:19]Does Cardinal Dolan outrank Archbishop Hicks canonically? Who's in charge of the arch dascese? Okay, I am. I try not to tell people this, but it's part of being I've probably never said this, but I'm actually a very reverend.

[00:37:33]>> Very reverend.

[00:37:34]>> Yeah. I I don't like to talk about it because part of the reason they made me a very reverend is because I'm so stinking humble, >> right? Like I'm working on a book called Humility and How It Made Me Great.

[00:37:48]And knowing it's going to be a bestseller, uh, I'm I've already got a follow-up book called I'm Meek, so I get the Earth. Na na nah.

[00:38:00]Um, >> na.

[00:38:02]>> Right. Then we'll follow it with the three most virtuous men in the world and how I taught the other two.

[00:38:11]Um, these books will change your life cuz I wrote them.

[00:38:17]So, of course, I'm running the arch dascese of New York. Except the parts you don't like. I'm not doing that.

[00:38:24]All right. So, who's running the arch dasces of New York? Archbishop Hicks.

[00:38:27]He's in charge. Uh, Cardinal Dolan is required to obey him. All right. If he's living in the territorial territorial boundaries of the arch dascese, a cardinal is simply a dude who can vote for pope in a sense. I mean, he's more than that, but his cardinalship has oddly no connection to his day-to-day ministry as the Archbishop of New York. Does this make sense?

[00:38:53]>> The title cardinal connects him to Rome in a unique way. Doesn't give me any more power in New York.

[00:38:59]>> Really?

[00:39:00]>> Yeah. Uh, I've been a cardinal for years.

[00:39:03]>> I just don't tell you people. That's why I was promoted from cardinal to very reverend.

[00:39:12]You're going to let that go?

[00:39:14]>> I am.

[00:39:15]>> Cardinals are basically the pope's advisors.

[00:39:18]Um yeah. Uh and they uh they're named for the hinge, right? Cardinal in Latin is the hinge of a door. They open the door to the papacy and they close it.

[00:39:31]Groovy stuff. So uh Cardinal Dolan is subject to the authority of Archbishop Hicks in the Arch Dascese of New York.

[00:39:38]And I'll bet you you're going to laugh.

[00:39:39]I'll bet he is joyfully. Can you imagine having that off your head?

[00:39:42]>> He looks him not being joyful.

[00:39:45]>> Yeah. Yeah. Because he's such a bitter, angry guy, you know? For those you haven't met him, that dude just glows.

[00:39:51]Joy.

[00:39:52]>> Yeah.

[00:39:52]>> Like I hear people criticize him and I'm like, you're >> Yeah.

[00:39:57]>> Yeah. Cheers.

[00:39:58]>> Talk to me. Go.

[00:39:59]>> One quick question just came in. Last week I had I was dealing with a cough that would go into fits. So during mass, I was popping cough drops to keep it at bay.

[00:40:10]>> Nice.

[00:40:10]>> And I RECEIVED COMMUNION.

[00:40:12]>> SINNER. I'M SORRY. I panicked.

[00:40:15]>> I'm going to be honest. I may have overreacted.

[00:40:18]Uh, no. This happens. You want to avoid it, you know, in the future. Uh, I'll be honest. My third year as a priest, I remember one time and same thing. My voice was gone. No, it was my fifth year as a priest because I was at MSU and we're doing like 800,000 masses a week.

[00:40:38]And every Sunday by my third mass, my voice would start to go. And one thing I realized, I pop a throat loss in Jen and suck down a gallon of water and it helped. And one of the first masses, the second mass where I did it, I was like, I know, right? I broke my fast. Uh, and again, we're not killing God here or anything, but it's it's a it's a sign of respect.

[00:41:08]It's uh, so you made a mistake, right?

[00:41:11]Uh, and I'd encourage you, you know, if you're coughing a lot, um, don't go to church that day or be far away from other humans, right? Just being candid, right? Um, you know, I don't know. did that.

[00:41:28]>> Well, >> you're probably going to hell. Um, and I'm so sorry.

[00:41:32]>> I do. I >> Okay, >> that was a joke. Everyone, >> it feels like you're going to get questions.

[00:41:38]>> Oh, I'm going to >> Better to have the cough drop and go to church or stay home and have the cough drop.

[00:41:45]>> Oh, better go to church.

[00:41:48]>> Okay.

[00:41:49]>> Smarter.

[00:41:50]>> Saying Okay.

[00:41:51]>> Yeah. Smarter. Yes.

[00:41:53]>> Don't.

[00:41:53]>> Yes.

[00:41:54]>> Right. Here's here's the thing.

[00:41:58]Missing mass is a big deal. It really is. It's a very big deal.

[00:42:05]But not missing mass because you're sick.

[00:42:08]>> Okay.

[00:42:08]>> God's not a jerk.

[00:42:09]>> Yes.

[00:42:09]>> And I I told you this. I get this all the time. The 90year-old who comes into confession crying. I miss mass Sunday and I just learned with the elderly. I say quote, "What happened?"

[00:42:23]Well, on Friday I was hit by a cement truck.

[00:42:26]Yeah. Uh Saturday they put a new hip in and then I got an infection and almost died on Sunday and I didn't get to my ass. I'm so sorry. I'm like, what are you doing? Like can you imagine God up in heaven going, "What the hey lady, get out of the bed and get to the hospital."

[00:42:50]Really? No, think about it. Like even us knuckleheaded humans can figure out, "Oh, grandma, stay home.

[00:42:57]>> You're sick. What are you doing?"

[00:43:00]Right. But then, of course, you do get the other thing. Well, I got drunk Saturday. I couldn't get to mass Sunday.

[00:43:07]Okay, you're in trouble.

[00:43:10]Yeah. You know what I mean? That's just You're I'm going to say you're a jerk.

[00:43:13]Yeah. We In fact, at MSU, we got a brand new priest. Like, you still smell the charisma on the brother. and he came back from mass feeling pretty good about himself and telling us there were a ton of hungover kids at the 7 p.m. mass and they were standing in back of church, the whole mass just dying and he yelled at them and I was like, "Brahu, >> they were there.

[00:43:39]They were think of the conviction in their hearts."

[00:43:42]>> Yeah.

[00:43:43]Uh well, I I told them they can't go to communion.

[00:43:48]Really? Uh we had confessions, you know. I stay out of people's business. You don't know what you don't know. And can you imagine God going, "Look, I'd love for you to follow the directive I commanded you to not neglect the assembly, but you were drunk. You've sinned. We don't want your type here.

[00:44:09]What What are you doing?" Right? And this kid meant well, by the way. I'm sure he did. You They pounded their heads. You have to protect the sacrament. You We Yes. We have to protect the guy who let us kill him.

[00:44:23]>> From what? from us, not from those people, cuz we don't know what's going on in there. We know what's going on in here.

[00:44:33]Yeah.

[00:44:35]God doesn't need your protection.

[00:44:38]He demands your respect. He craves your affection.

[00:44:44]You is Chesterton. You defend God like you defend a lion. Just get out of his way.

[00:44:50]Right. Anyway, >> that's good. I know.

[00:44:55]>> When you're one of >> the chapters IN YOUR BOOK, >> WHY WOULD YOU GIVE ME THAT? WHY WOULD SHE THROW THAT PITCH?

[00:45:06]>> I was going to tell I don't know. I forgot about this. I moved it to the back of my head at some point. And today's little We did a house exorcism this morning >> and it reminded me of the Alexa one.

[00:45:18]>> I want to tell that story.

[00:45:20]>> Thank you. Hold on. I I'm going to add >> uh >> Oh, Carrie's Carrie's pushing buttons.

[00:45:25]She's pushing buttons. Uh speaking of that accent. Anyway, what?

[00:45:30]>> No, go ahead.

[00:45:31]>> Okay. The crazy story.

[00:45:32]>> Yes.

[00:45:32]>> Okay. So, this family calls, this was a long time ago. And I think we need Okay. I think we need an exorcism over our house. We get these calls, you know, and it's like we have some follow-up questions, right? Well, we moved here a few months ago. Uh, our son was doing great in school. Never had any problems.

[00:45:55]And all of a sudden, he's seeing things in his room. He's doing awful things to himself. He cries a lot. Dog won't come in the house anymore. I'm like, "Yeah, you probably got something in there."

[00:46:08]So, I went over there. I put on my black fedora.

[00:46:13]Just kidding. Actually, I think I did cuz it was winter. But anyway, I go there and oh yeah, like the moment I open the door to the house, I was like, "Oh yeah, okay." You know, you've got an infestation.

[00:46:31]Uh so we start the ritual and there's this part where we command the evil spirits to flee at which point her Alexa says, "Someone is at the door." Like bing bong, someone is at the door. Uh, oh, father, sorry. And she runs over. She says, "There's no one at the door." Like, I'm sorry. So then we So then I say it again. Bing b someone is at the door.

[00:46:56]Three times I commanded that thing to leave or those things. And each time as soon as I in the name of Jesus, of course, they don't care if I command them. Uh each time, bing bong, someone is at the door. And each time nobody was there.

[00:47:15]Fourth time I said it, it didn't happen.

[00:47:17]I went, "Yeah, he's out, right?"

[00:47:20]Whatever it was. So, we finished the ritual. Um, I'm not kidding. The dog came back in the house.

[00:47:28]The dog was like, "Great." You know, put out a cigarette and came running in the house. She said, "First time he's come in. He just wouldn't come in the house.

[00:47:37]He stayed in the garage." She's like, "Nope, not sharing it with the demon."

[00:47:42]cat would have made friends with it.

[00:47:43]>> Yeah.

[00:47:44]>> Would have been like, "Hey, bud."

[00:47:45]>> Yeah. Hey, how's it going? Why don't you bring some friends by?

[00:47:50]>> Do you remember that? I got out in the car. I'm like, "Okay, I've seen some things in my life." I really have. Some things where I'm like, "If I had hair, it'd get curled."

[00:48:01]That one, it was almost funny. I like, "Wow, kids doing great. The house is doing great. Everybody's doing great. He came down, ate dinner, stopped doing horrible things to his body. Grades went back up. Man, that thing was nasty.

[00:48:21]Whatever that was.

[00:48:22]>> Yeah.

[00:48:25]>> Wasn't that Alexa? Oh, by the way, I need you all to turn the volume all the way up if you're at home.

[00:48:34]Alexa, what time is it there? Sorry.

[00:48:39]You know, you can make her h share things with you. You can command her to burp.

[00:48:48]>> Oh my lord.

[00:48:49]>> I'm just going to say it. And I would do this to my sister who's just as loaded with those devices and all a sudden I would yell, "Alexa, burp." And she would.

[00:49:02]And then my sister threatened to kill me. And I think she meant it. So I have not done it yet. Okay. What one of the I don't think priests should be married, but one of the arguments for priests getting married is a married man probably wouldn't do that in their 50s.

[00:49:24]>> Oh yes.

[00:49:26]>> Would you check?

[00:49:27]>> I don't know. Okay. Let's just say we I was at graduation practice, eighth grade graduation practice.

[00:49:33]>> I fit right in. And the teacher kind of got after the boys appropriately and they were not they were fine.

[00:49:40]>> Yeah.

[00:49:40]>> But I laughed and I said, "Oh, the wedding rehearsal last night."

[00:49:45]>> Same thing. It was all eighth grade boys.

[00:49:48]>> They were in their 30s, >> but they were eighth grade boys. And and I was right over there, you know, with my little rubber nose. And I'm like, "Oh."

[00:49:56]>> So I don't know married or unmarried.

[00:49:58]>> Yeah. Poor Jesus.

[00:50:01]Um, what are we doing?

[00:50:04]>> Uh, my >> Oh, question answer.

[00:50:06]>> My question is >> Oh, my question is, what does be still mean?

[00:50:11]Um, I keep coming across this phrase lately, and I think I better pay attention. I get you. Gh, if you're like me, it's all right. Like, sometimes I don't know what God allows and intends. I can never tell the difference, right?

[00:50:30]But sometimes like right now I feel like there's just fights everywhere and it it wears me down.

[00:50:46]And usually there's this magic moment that happens where I move from restless and fighting internally to I'm too tired to fight you, Lord.

[00:51:02]Right.

[00:51:04]Gosh, I could cry.

[00:51:07]And um I know I'm approaching that, right? where I just sit with him finally and there's nothing left in me to fight him and he gets to do wonderful things.

[00:51:20]He just can't get me easily to be still.

[00:51:25]To be still means to put it all away.

[00:51:30]um to give him our time and attention to truly sit with him and think about him. Not all the crap I want him to do, but just him.

[00:51:47]Um you may remember uh Jacob in the Bible.

[00:51:58]The dude was just he was a nut job, right? He just did crazy stuff all the time and he was always walking a fine line of obeying God and being a little bit of a hu. Yeah. And he's place to place to place to place. And then it says one night he laid down and an angel approached him and they started to wrestle, right?

[00:52:30]And they wrestled all night and the angel finally pops his hip out of socket, right? He cheats and and Jacob won't let go. And the angel finally like, "Let me go."

[00:52:52]And Jacob's answer is, "Not till you bless me." Jacob finally got bested, right?

[00:53:00]And the angel blessed him and changed his name from Jacob to Israel. Israel wrestles with God, fights with God, contends with God.

[00:53:12]And my sister Lorie said the coolest thing.

[00:53:16]She said, "The angel wasn't showing Jacob how strong the angel was.

[00:53:24]He was showing Jacob, look how strong you are.

[00:53:28]You get me? Because he needed to know how strong he was. Some crazy stuff was coming. He didn't know that. The angel did. And somebody needed to tell Jacob, "You don't need to slide your way through everything. You don't need to trick your way out of everything. You are strong. You just wrestled with God all night."

[00:53:50]It seems clear that so much of our life as Christians is wrestling with God. And we keep and I do seeing it as a failure. And God's going, "No, no.

[00:54:03]It's what you people do. And I've not given up yet. And I'll fight you. I'll wrestle you. I'll pop your hip out.

[00:54:13]And then I'll bless you." and you walk away and go, I'm really strong.

[00:54:19]Does this Yeah.

[00:54:24]Ah, what does be still mean? It's when we just sit with them. You know, when mom was when her mind was gone.

[00:54:33]Um, but she still could kind of she kind of talked. I don't know how to explain it. It didn't make a ton of sense.

[00:54:41]That woman was a dynamo her whole life.

[00:54:45]Like we joked that she slept standing up, right? And and I actually saw her do it a couple times, like just stop and like five minutes of sleep and then okay, right back in the fight. But anyway, the last year where she could still move around, I have a million pictures of this. She would sit on the couch like this with her little hands folded and dad would sit right next to her and they would just hold hands and sit there. Never.

[00:55:17]And it is as cute as it sounds, right? That they would just sit there because dad's quiet. Um, mom's not. But she was finally like we even talked about as a family. She always had this thing right here. She was always like her mind was going 800,000 miles an hour and her ability to retain information was beyond anything I've ever seen. And so every time you talk to her, she's having seven conversations. You're just one of them, right? And the others were in her mind like she was working through things that was gone. Like we talked about like that thing right here was all gone. and she just sat and she beamed all the time and there was dad holding her hand and they just sat together hours that's being still right and it was kind of cool to see like in this very dark time in our family's life there were these moments of incredible joy where it was just like oh and even when she died my sister Lorie said the most incredible thing um we all got around her bed and she was gone. And Lorie said, "No one can hurt her again."

[00:56:38]And as simple as that sounds, I've never felt such a stone off my head and heart and shoulders.

[00:56:49]Like, you would think the fact that mom did her best to help people her whole life would compel them to be grateful.

[00:57:00]But most people that receive the mo a lot of people who receive the most help are the meanest.

[00:57:08]Um it's part of our wrestling with God.

[00:57:11]It's why we're so awful to God.

[00:57:14]Um is this making sense?

[00:57:18]>> Yes.

[00:57:19]>> Most of her pain didn't come from her enemies.

[00:57:22]It came from people who would call her at 4 in the morning and she'd answer.

[00:57:27]It would come from the kids whose moms used my mom as a blame for their bad decisions. Does this came from the people we took in?

[00:57:42]Um yeah.

[00:57:47]Yeah. Anyway, to be still is to just put all that on the altar and then just say, "Lord, how beautiful you are. How wonderful your works."

[00:58:00]Um, and to think about him instead of us and what we want him to do.

[00:58:08]That's what I think.

[00:58:09]>> Yes.

[00:58:10]>> Okay.

[00:58:13]I didn't mean to get so heavy.

[00:58:15]>> No. Um >> there's one last just to end it on something else. One last very practical question there about rosaries and crucifixes.

[00:58:23]>> Okay, this is from one of our Protestant listeners. I have a few rosaries. I'm totally kidding. You got to admit that was funny. Okay. Uh sorry. I have a few I don't know why that's clever to me.

[00:58:39]I have a few rosaries and crucifixes that I would like blessed. $7.98 per item.

[00:58:45]Once you hit 10 items, we drop it down to $7.90.

[00:58:50]My gosh, we're generous. Uh, I have a few rosaries and crucifixes that I would like blessed. What's the best way to go about it? Ask my priest after a weekday mass when there are fewer people. Should I make an appointment at Father's Convenience? Should I do something else?

[00:59:06]Thanks for everything. I'm so grateful you're a Do you see that?

[00:59:11]>> I'm so grateful you're walking the earth with us right now. Truly, thank you.

[00:59:16]>> Yep.

[00:59:18]>> Um, wow. That's a really nice thing to say.

[00:59:22]>> Yes.

[00:59:23]>> All right. So, with that, I'm all gooey.

[00:59:28]You jerks. Um, come Holy Spirit. Ask the priest. I'm a guy. Grab me after mass. Now, if you see 800 million people around me and you're willing to wait, way to go. But blessing, it's simple. you know, um yeah, you know, so check with them like, "Hey, father, I got some rosaries and croo fix. Can I just bring them to mass?" You know, uh I don't think a priest would want you to make an appointment for that because it takes a minute.

[00:59:58]>> No, but there may be a process like if they call the parish, they >> people drop things off at the desk all the time.

[01:00:04]>> Yeah.

[01:00:05]>> When you guys come through, you bless them and they pick them >> and then we send them a bill. Oh, and then they pick them up. Sorry. Now, the way we do billing, Chuck figured out an amazing way to save postage uh money.

[01:00:16]And Chuck, I can't thank you enough for this. Basically, he writes a note that says, "How much you owe?" And and then he writes underneath it, "Send us cash now." He wraps it around a rock and then throws it through their windows.

[01:00:32]>> There you go.

[01:00:33]>> And I'll be honest, Chuck, I'm surprised how much postage we saved.

[01:00:36]>> And I think those lawsuits will get dismissed. There you go.

[01:00:40]>> Um, >> okay. One last really practical question.

[01:00:43]>> Talk to me, Goose.

[01:00:44]>> Thank you for doing the podcast. I love listening to that.

[01:00:47]>> Oh, hold on. I got to scroll to it.

[01:00:48]>> Okay.

[01:00:49]>> How does one tr Oh, dear.

[01:00:51]>> Hi, Father Reverend Reverend Father Joe >> St. Paul.

[01:00:55]>> Thank you for doing the podcast. I'LL JUST READ IT TO YOU.

[01:00:57]>> OH, I GOT YOU, [ __ ] OKAY. HI, very reverend Father Joe, thank you for giving me my appropriate moniker.

[01:01:06]>> Why is that funny?

[01:01:07]>> I don't know. Do you find it funny or are you being polite?

[01:01:10]>> I think it's funny.

[01:01:11]>> I do too. Thank you for doing the podcast. No, thank you.

[01:01:15]>> Uh, I love listening to them. I do too.

[01:01:19]Do you have any book recommendations to learn about the Crusades and the Templars? I listen to your episodes on them and want to learn more. I have told you everything.

[01:01:28]WOULDN'T THAT BE AWESOME IF IT'S like I recommend you listen to me again?

[01:01:35]>> Cuz there's so much wisdom. Uh, no. I need to think about that. Holy crap. Um, well, now I need to think about it.

[01:01:45]>> Okay, that's fine. Leave it for >> next. Um, >> or we can just answer him.

[01:01:50]>> Yeah, I think come Holy Spirit. Yeah, we'll have to answer it later. But what I'll tell you is this. Most of what I've learned I've learned in chunks in pieces in terms of the Crusades and the Templars. The Templars, the hard thing is there's an obscene amount of information about them that's all based on conspiracy theories, right? That's the part that's really, really, really hard.

[01:02:17]>> Um gosh, I'd really have to think about it.

[01:02:21]I feel like feel I read a whole series on the Crusades that blew my skirt up, but I sure can't remember.

[01:02:29]It can't be true because I'd remember. I don't know. It'll come to me until that day. Let us rejoice. I don't know what that is. I just did it. Okay, so >> that is it.

[01:02:42]>> That's it for today. Oh, look. Bob wrote me. Hold on. Cuz Bob sent me a question.

[01:02:46]Uh Bob, the guy I work on cars with. Oh, well, thank you, Bob. Bob said, "I did a good job."

[01:02:56]>> Uh, and we like Bob because Bob likes cars.

[01:03:01]>> There you go.

[01:03:02]>> So, fair enough.

[01:03:03]>> Uh, I can't remember if I told you guys this, but June 1st and 2nd, nobody die or get sick. I want to put that engine in. And if any of you No, I'm just kidding. So, and you know there's one when people people have caught me working now and want to engage me in a conversation and I'm like I don't love anybody right now.

[01:03:25]I love engine. I love Stapler.

[01:03:28]>> I love lamp.

[01:03:29]>> We'll put up a electric fence around you.

[01:03:31]>> Would that be funny? I did put Did I tell people I put a winch on the Bronco yesterday?

[01:03:36]>> Uh >> I put a winch on the Bronco yesterday and then we wanted to see if it worked.

[01:03:40]You know this. So, I sat my fat booty on a creeper. You know those?

[01:03:45]>> And then Vince pulled me.

[01:03:47]>> There you go.

[01:03:48]>> With I flew across that garage. I'm a fat man. And it was like, "No problem." It did do this noise, but >> All right.

[01:04:02]>> All right.

[01:04:02]>> Uh, so next week we get into we finally get to Jon of Arc. I'm so sorry.

[01:04:08]Lancastrian phase of the civil civil war.

[01:04:10]>> I will not let you go back on that >> of the hundred years war and uh which is what ends at.

[01:04:18]>> Right.

[01:04:18]>> Um so probably one episode maybe two. I don't know.

[01:04:21]>> Okay.

[01:04:21]>> All right. And uh I think that's it.

[01:04:24]>> All right.

[01:04:25]>> Salad pray. In the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit.

[01:04:30]Heavenly father, thank you for these beautiful people. We just want to love you and we keep making it complicated.

[01:04:43]Give us the grace to be still. Huh?

[01:04:48]Give us the grace to follow you wherever you take us.

[01:04:55]We pray for Claude Lemieux and for his soul. We play pray for his wife and for his kids and for his friends.

[01:05:06]And we pray for the grace to not feel obligated to offer our opinions and thoughts on every single situation, but certainly to offer our prayers.

[01:05:23]Lord, for anything I got right today, I'm so grateful. Thank you. for anything I got wrong. Please forgive me and correct me. I want to lead your people well.

[01:05:38]Lord, you know all the people we love so much and just sit and worry about.

[01:05:46]And you know all the circumstances in our lives that cause us to fret. And we give all of it to you, Lord, because we love you so much and we trust you. And may almighty God bless you all. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. My kung fu was strong. I'll see you beautiful people next time. And until then, frozen peas are my gift to you.