Day 20,921 of exposing evolution

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[00:00:02]That would make him 49.

[00:00:05]>> Yeah.

[00:00:06]>> Does that mean I'm getting old? No, it don't. Come on now. Happy birthday, Kent Andrew Hovind down in Pensacola. All right. I'll sing his birthday song.

[00:00:15]Ready? This is your birthday song. It isn't very long. Happy birthday, son.

[00:00:20]I'm proud of you. Here we go. Here we go. We got a bunch of uh shows channels we're on. We're on Facebook, on Rumble, on X, on our own app, tenhovin.tv, TV, our Instagram, and Tik Tok. Um, 20,921 days of destroying the stupid evolution religion. It's just a religion. You believe in evolution. I'll show you.

[00:00:41]Somebody sent me s scrolling or something a short of the star nose mole.

[00:00:49]This is any I'd like any of you evol evolutionist to explain how this evolved or how any animal evolved. Step by step.

[00:00:57]Show me the evidence, not the theory, just the imagination that it happened.

[00:01:02]Yeah, we don't we don't know for sure.

[00:01:04]I've never seen God. I think he wrote I think he created the world. I think he wrote a book and told us how he did it.

[00:01:08]I I believe that firmly. I admit I take that on faith. You do not admit you take yours on faith because you lose your tax funding for your religion to be taught in all the schools, won't you? Yeah, that's a problem. Call for a debate. I'm not trying to hurt anybody. I'm trying to help you. Trying to save you from hell, number one. trying to save you from believing something stupid, looking real stupid. When you stand before God, God's going to say, "Excuse me, did you believe you're related to a strawberry?"

[00:01:31]"Yeah." "Did you ever eat them?" "Yeah, that's cannibalism."

[00:01:38]How don't they get it? Okay, this is really cool about the starnose mole. I'd like you to tell me how this evolved step by step. What did it evolve from?

[00:01:48]>> And it might be the most insane predator you've never heard of.

[00:01:53]Meet the star-nosed mole. That star isn't for smelling. It's a touch organ packed with 100,000 nerve fibers, making it the 100,000 nerve fibers in its nose. Each of those nerve fibers goes to a part of the brain that's going to decipher what it's looking at. Could you please tell me how that evolved? Did I lose it here?

[00:02:14]>> Scroll up. You just scroll down.

[00:02:16]>> Okay, scroll up here.

[00:02:18]>> Most sensitive touch organ of any mammal on Earth.

[00:02:22]It uses it to hunt and it's so fast it identifies and eats prey in 0.2 seconds.

[00:02:29]>> It identifies what it's going to eat in 0.25 seconds. So these nerves and these little fleshy things on its nose are able to determine there's a bug down there. I should get it in two ten of a second.

[00:02:47]How did that evolve?

[00:02:49]It looks to me like his brain is pretty small. I mean, the whole critter is pretty small. Yes, sir.

[00:02:54]>> I predict his brain's even smaller than the critter. And 100,000 nerves going to the brain going to decipher all this, make a decision. Should I eat it or not?

[00:03:06]Scientists literally named it the world's fastest eating mammal.

[00:03:11]Found across eastern North America, it's been spotted foraging under ice. And to smell underwater, it blows bubbles out of its nose, then sniffs them back in.

[00:03:23]Its eyes are basically useless. It eats up to 50% of its body weight in a sing.

[00:03:28]>> Wait a minute. It blows bubbles out of its nose, sniffs them back in to see if there's anything edible.

[00:03:36]Guys, you really believe there's Why can't you give God the glory? I see amazing things like this, Joseph. I say, "God, praise God. You're so smart. I can't wait to meet you." He is really, really, really smart. I can't wait to meet the guy. How about you? Is he going to be your judge when you meet him or your father? He's going to meet me. Hey, father. He's going to say, "Welcome home, son." For you, he's going to say, "Stand in line over there. Your judge can come. Judgment's coming." I hate that. I don't want that for anybody. I like what my nephew Chad says at his church up in Ohio. He said, "Do you want do you want a a fair trial or do you want mercy?"

[00:04:12]I'll take the mercy. I don't want a fair trial. Okay, here we go.

[00:04:17]>> Single day. And in winter, its tail swells up with fat to survive.

[00:04:24]>> So, it saves up fat in its tail to be able to survive. Um, how did that evolve? How for millions of generations, they all died because none of them have that. They finally figured out, we got together, had a committee, we have got to get a fat tail.

[00:04:38]Everybody concentrate focused on Yosan.

[00:04:41]Make your tail fatter, fatter, fatter.

[00:04:46]How do they believe that stuff, Joseph?

[00:04:48]>> You got to have help to be that dumb, sir.

[00:04:50]>> They have to go to college for years to get brainwashed into believing this thing evolved or any animal evolved. I just thought I'd play this one to show you it's not possible for it to evolve.

[00:04:59]It had to be created.

[00:05:01]>> The cold 22 fingers on its face, eats faster than you can blink, swims under ice, and smells through bubbles. What is nature going to come up with next?

[00:05:15]>> This is a real animal.

[00:05:17]>> Nature going to come up with next? See, they can't give God the glory.

[00:05:21]>> So that comment, isn't evolution amazing?

[00:05:24]>> Is he Is he for real? He believes evolution is amazing.

[00:05:29]>> Okay. Please explain to me how it evolved then. If you think evolution created that creature from a speck of a dot the size of an atom that exploded 20 billion years ago and then earth cooled down and made a hard rock he crusted about 4 billion years ago and it rained on the rocks for millions of year turned them into soup and the soup came alive and it was a single-sellled creature originally am I correctly stating your position and the single cellled creature be it an amoeba bacteria prozzoa slowly evolved into everything let's see the mole would be upper the mammals someplace.

[00:06:03]So the starnose mole, they don't have it on this chart, came from a prozzoa.

[00:06:10]Is that the position you wish to defend?

[00:06:12]Call in.

[00:06:15]That's not science. You can believe that if you want. You know what they got, Joseph? Right here. This is what they have.

[00:06:21]>> Imagination.

[00:06:30]>> I feel crazy. I was arguing with Catholics earlier. I think thank thank God I came here. Well, here's the way I look at it. There are lots of other religions in the world.

[00:06:39]Okay? They can't all be right. If they're differ on things, somebody's wrong. Maybe both wrong. Okay? But where is where's the truth? I want I just want to know the truth. America has a a bure called the National Bureau of Standards.

[00:06:51]They carefully protect here is an inch, here is a foot, here is a yard. This is the na this is the national standard.

[00:06:57]It's this way in every country through history. Many countries used a cubit or a strata or something like that. The Romans invented the mile, how far a soldier can walk. I forget what it was.

[00:07:06]So many steps or something. U so uh there has to be a standard.

[00:07:11]Where's the standard for right and wrong?

[00:07:15]If evolution is true, Darwin said it, the strongest survive, the weakest die off. So it's okay for the lion to eat the zebra if he can catch him. Would it be okay for a human to eat another human if he can catch him? Or is there a different standard for humans? If there's a different standard, why? Where did our moral standard come from?

[00:07:34]Where's the standard for right and wrong? Where's the standard for determining what is science and what is not? The typical definition of science is universally accepted. Science is what we can observe, study, test, and demonstrate. You cannot observe a star-nosed mole coming from anything else. I've never seen them have babies, but I'd be willing to bet five bucks there come out star- nose moles, >> wouldn't they?

[00:07:56]>> Yeah, I believe so. I bet there I bet their great great great great great great great great grandfather was a star in Om too. You imagine that it changed in the past. That's not science.

[00:08:05]Evolution had nothing to do with science. You disagree? Call into the show. Come on. Okay. What have we got, Joseph?

[00:08:15]We didn't even stir up the flat earthers yet, but go ahead.

[00:08:17]>> Oh, they're in there.

[00:08:18]>> Are they in there?

[00:08:20]>> Wonder why. Have them show one skeleton mid transformation. Right. Even a skeleton wouldn't count.

[00:08:27]If you find a skeleton in the dirt, all you really could prove is it died. You couldn't prove that one had any kids.

[00:08:32]You certainly couldn't prove that one had different kids. No animal today can have different kids in itself. God said 20 times in the first seven chapters, they will bring forth after their kind.

[00:08:43]Show me any examples, you know, scientifically testable, demonstrable examples where that did not happen.

[00:08:49]I challenge it.

[00:08:53]Rough neck city boy. The truth is God our creator spoke each and every one and everything into I agree. God created the original star- nose mole just so people would say, "Wow, God, you're amazing.

[00:09:08]You're amazing." A lot of craftsmen, somebody takes gnarled up wooden uh oak trees, you know, that are all gnarly, and he saws them up into cool You got to saw them just right to get the grain to show. Made a really cool chair I saw one time made out of a a burl the grain pattern's incredible. There's no question somebody did that. Somebody designed it. Um here Get my series creation that destroys evolution and answer the questions I ask them every time. How did this evolve?

[00:09:40]Amieba, apricot, arvarks, appendix, amethyst, bacteria, burillium, butterfly, broccoli. I gave you lots of targets to shoot at. Pick pick the easiest one you can find and show me how it evolved. Isn't evolution amazing? The guy said, "No, evolution is stupid. You believe that? You need your head examined." And I'm here to help. I can examine it.

[00:10:10]>> Ken had his sixth booster.

[00:10:15]I never had the first one. Not about to take that. God can't exist on a globe.

[00:10:21]>> Can't either believe in evolution or >> is that is that the only two choices?

[00:10:27]>> That's all you get. So, are elephants green or elephants purple? That's all you get. Choose one.

[00:10:37]>> I never had the first one. The Earth is round. It spins. It's not a contradiction to the Bible. It goes around the sun. Heliocentric. Okay. This is the center of God's attention. This is the center of God's uh love. The rest of them are just planets out there. It's good thing we got those planets going around cuz they they intercept a lot of meteors that would hit us. It's for our protection. So, it's perfectly designed.

[00:11:01]It's fine as is. Okay. I use the illustration if we're driving down the highway and you're in the back seat taking a nap while I drive to Chicago or something. You say, "Brother Hovind, would you pass me a Pepsi?" We're going 70 m hour north to Chicago. I grab the Pepsi, hand it back to you at 20 miles an hour.

[00:11:18]Did the Pepsi go forward or backward?

[00:11:22]That depends who's telling the story.

[00:11:24]For me and Joseph, it's this Pepsi went backwards. For somebody on the sidewalk, the Pepsi went forward. Instead of going 70, it only went 50 because I decelerated. I passed it back at 20. If all the observers are on the Earth, and they are, then it's perfectly correct to say the sun stood still.

[00:11:42]It perfectly correct.

[00:11:45]And it's perfectly correct to say the Earth doesn't move except earthquakes and, you know, tsunamis and stuff. Well, not tsunamis. That's the water moving.

[00:11:53]Okay. Well, I'm sorry. All right, flatearthers, go someplace else and try to convert somebody else. You're not going to convert me. Okay.

[00:12:04]Uh, retro man. Even Darwin knew his theory of evolution had huge holes, but he was urged to publish. I agree.

[00:12:10]There's a long story behind how he published that and the speed which was published. Yeah, a long story behind that. Go to icr.org. They got the whole story on their website. ICR IC institute forcreation research.org pork.

[00:12:25]Seth, the best live on the planet. So much information. I do have to ask you guys give so much knowledge, but who do you enjoy listening to? Uh, the Lord. I just drove to Walmart and back. I listen to all of Galatians and most of Ephesians while I drove. I love I just God's word is so full of gems and stuff.

[00:12:42]You get every time I read it's like, "Wow, how did I miss that last time?"

[00:12:45]You know, I encourage you to pour soak your brain in the Bible.

[00:12:51]You know nothing about what you say concerning the earth.

[00:12:54]>> I know nothing about what I say concerning the earth.

[00:13:00]>> Do you believe it's flat?

[00:13:02]Your brain wave is flat.

[00:13:05]>> How did John get off?

[00:13:09]>> We don't know that he did. Uh his he might have written the record and then he discovered it later. Robertson Russo or something, you know. We don't know that he got off of >> Patmas.

[00:13:21]The earth is hollow now. Whoa.

[00:13:28]>> Why would that make sense?

[00:13:32]>> We are the observers >> to people looking up. The sun stood still.

[00:13:38]>> Standing on the side, you'd say the Coke went backwards or went forward 50 miles an hour or Pepsi. Joseph's going to say, "No, it went backwards. I was in the back seat." Okay.

[00:13:51]West Texas is flat. I You can drive for three days. Are we still in Texas? You guys got to cut that state in half. This Texan was bragging about how big his state was. This guy from Alaska said, "Look, knock it off. We're going to cut our state in half and make you the third largest."

[00:14:10]>> How did the book of Rein get out?

[00:14:16]>> Don't don't know. I don't I don't I don't know anybody who knows. God promised he would preserve his word.

[00:14:21]That's God's problem. John could have written it on clay tablets. Baked let them bake in the sun that records going to last for centuries, millennia.

[00:14:29]They're still finding clay tablets all over the world from ancient writings.

[00:14:32]You know, that's that's a common way to write when you want to make sure the record doesn't get you paper doesn't last long. But, uh, clay tablets would last. Book of Revelation, 22 chapters, probably, you know, three or 4 hundred, I don't know, whatever size clay tablets use. Write it out. Bacon in the sun, put a sign up, help. I'm stranded on Patmas.

[00:14:49]Uh, actually, he was exiled to Patmas.

[00:14:52]So, I'm sure they had ships going back and forth bringing new prisoners and taking guys off and don't know. We'll find out in heaven. I believe God preserved his word. That's God's problem. If you believe it's not okay, then we both have a belief, don't we?

[00:15:07]>> I think historically that happened around 80 or 90. So, that was another evidence against >> it. possible for a universe to exist.

[00:15:25]>> That's those guys who sit around with their thumb against their finger, you know, and contemplate their belly button for hours at a time.

[00:15:32]>> Ask one of them that question. I doesn't matter to me.

[00:15:47]this, you know, just like this idea that we're all related. This dumb idea took kind of took the world by storm 200 years ago when Darwin, you know, 150 years ago, Darwin, this all takes place in the imagination. All of it. That's what's happened with this flat Earth stuff. Just imagine it's flat. You could show them a picture from space. Oh, that's fake. It's NASA.

[00:16:11]>> I think 17 different countries around the world have a space agency. Are they all Is there a big conspiracy?

[00:16:18]>> They've all signed treaties to not go to Antarctica. One big conspiracy that we're not on our government.

[00:16:23]>> Many people have been to Antarctica to the South Pole. The reason they don't want you going in there without a permit is because people, you know, take two ham sandwiches and go in there and got a radio back. Hey, come rescue me. It cost $4 million to come get you because you're too dumb to prepare for the ice down there.

[00:16:39]I went to Barrow, Alaska, which is as far north as you can get in Alaska. By the way, I went to McDonald's this morning to get the um a bacon, egg, cheese sandwich. I asked the lady, "Do you take out of state cash from Alaska?"

[00:16:51]No. No.

[00:16:56]They don't have IQ test to work there.

[00:16:57]Okay. I was in Barrow, Alaska, and when I flew in I was high altitude planes, you know, you can see the curvature of the earth. One guy said that's because the window the window on the airplane is curved.

[00:17:13]Okay, look, believe what you want, but it's not science. Okay, it's imagination. This chart of being related to a strawberry is imagination. So is flat earth.

[00:17:28]The majority of people that believe in a globe, global flood also believe in a global earth. What >> makes sense, right? How can you have a global flood on a flat earth?

[00:17:40]>> How can you have a global flood on a flat earth?

[00:17:43]I guess I got held in at the edge. See, gravity is everything's attracted to the center of the ball because it's that's the attraction of masses. So people here are standing up perpendicular to the earth. People here are standing up perpendicular to the earth, but they're not parallel with each other. This was done with the experiment in Egypt back what 300 BC. The guy noticed when the sun went over on a certain day, he could see the very bottom of the well and he knew the well was perpendicular, you know, level plum. I mean, so he told a got a friend of his some 300 miles away or something, put a stick in the ground straight up and down and tell me how long the shadow is uh on this day. And so they did that and they he calculated how big the earth was based on the shadow, which is simple trigonometry.

[00:18:28]Yes, the earth's a ball. man.

[00:18:31]>> Same thing with the lunar eclipse.

[00:18:34]This is not propaganda, >> right?

[00:18:40]>> But see, once people get this in their mind, it becomes true. Wow, I saw it.

[00:18:47]They think they saw evolution. Once people get this in their mind, wow, the layers are different ages. Can you imagine going back to the Jurassic age? You don't go back at all. I took the helicopter down to the bottom of Grand Canyon. The guide said, "Folks, we went back 300 million years." I looked at my watch. It was the same day. We don't go back at all. This is all imagination.

[00:19:13]And so is the flat earth. Pure imagination.

[00:19:18]You can believe that if you want and no way to convince them. You can't convince most people once they've been taught this for 20 years. They're going to believe it. It's a brainwashing system.

[00:19:28]quote by somebody >> right >> here's somebody disappointed I really thought you were a man of scripture and science but it seems words of a man I I believe I'm a man of scripture and science I love science taught it 15 years uh I love the scriptures read it for 57 years um can you be more specific what what are you saying what's he trying to say >> trying to say that you are a liar you Everything else you say is wrong.

[00:20:00]>> I see. Everything else I say is wrong.

[00:20:02]Let's see.

[00:20:03]>> This is blue. Is that wrong?

[00:20:09]>> NASA. You're quoting NASA.

[00:20:16]>> They've known the Earth is round way before there was a NASA. Way before there was an America.

[00:20:21]Way before there was a telescope.

[00:20:24]Here's a good question.

[00:20:27]It'd be funny if it wasn't so serious.

[00:20:29]>> I know.

[00:20:29]>> These people drive on the highway, Joseph.

[00:20:32]>> They don't think you should be allowed to.

[00:20:34]>> All right. I should when you get to heaven with whom you want to have a conversion with. And first, I want to talk to the Lord uh for quite a while. Okay. I've been talking to him, you know, through prayer for 57 years. I want to sit down on his lap and say, "Lord, thank you for letting me be.

[00:20:48]Thank you for letting me come. I know I don't deserve this.

[00:20:53]And I want to talk to Moses. He's one of my I want to ask him a simple question.

[00:20:56]Moses, when you guys were crossing the Red Sea and you were walking on a dry ground and the Bible says there was a wall of water beside you on each side, a wall. And they've done studies on that.

[00:21:08]It would have to be 900 foot 90s story building. Okay.

[00:21:13]I want to ask Moses, did any fish ever fall out?

[00:21:17]Does that bother you? Doesn't bother you, does it? Bothers.

[00:21:22]Can you imagine a fish swimming along, falls out of the water, somebody picks him up, puts him back in, he goes home, tells mama, "Mama, you won't believe what happened at school today. I fell out of the water."

[00:21:40]>> Okay, show me the evidence.

[00:21:42]>> Why did God eat that same rule today?

[00:21:47]>> Those rules are for the Jews. They were a peculiar people. There are a lot of diseases carried in swine, but God said that that for the Jews, he set certain rules. They were to be a different kind of different peculiar people. And so, uh, I'm glad he didn't tell the Norwegians, "Man, I like bacon."

[00:22:05]Hey, Joseph, the Earth is divided up into 24 15°ree strips. As you go closer to the pole, those strips get closer and closer.

[00:22:17]The time zones are narrower in Canada than they are in America.

[00:22:23]They try to follow the 15 degree line, but you got to allow for cities and, you know, states and common sense deviations from that. Why would the time zones be different widths for the for the sun go 12 hours, you know, as we turn under the sun, it takes roughly 12 hours, let's say on equinox, okay? And you can divide that distance from first time you see it over here then you see it over set over here. You can do that up in Canada or in northern Russia and it's still 12 hours but the time zones are a lot narrower. We're going to put together Did Simon Dan ever call back?

[00:23:03]Everybody call Simon Dan in England and say Ken Hovind would like to do a show with you where you two together debunk the flat earth. He's good at it. Now he's wrong about evolution but he's really good at debunking flat earth.

[00:23:15]Isn't it true those lines like that?

[00:23:18]That's why farmland is offset, right?

[00:23:22]>> You can see up in Illinois where I'm from, you know, flat landed forever. Um, all of a sudden they jog over a few feet to to stay near the lat longit latitude lines. Longitude lines. Uh, north south.

[00:23:35]Yeah, you have to because the earth is round.

[00:23:42]Hey Kent, I was raised in a Baptist church but also went to public school.

[00:23:44]What a good challenge question to ask an evolutionist is why they believe we come from monkeys when it's never been observed. We've never observed any animal produce anything other than their same kind. Monkeys have baby monkeys every time.

[00:23:58]>> You believe the millennial rain is future event?

[00:24:01]>> I do. The guys who teach it already happened. That's called the predtoist view. I think it's baloney. My chart behind me and a smaller version of the same thing here. Um, millie means thousand. There's a thousand-year reign at the after the tribulation. That thousand-year period is called the day of the Lord. Now, there's a case where one day is like a thousand years. I think God's working on a 7,000-year calendar. Creation 6,000 years ago, and an extra thousand years coming soon to a city near you. So, I believe the whole thing's going to go for 7,000 years. We'll see. But yeah, that certainly the Bible teaches about a millennium. The day of the Lord is mentioned. G whiz, I got all the references here 50 times probably.

[00:24:43]Sometimes it calls it a day of great wrath. Other times it calls it a day of great blessing. The lion and the lamb lay down together. All that stuff. It's all on the chart right here or in my book on the topic, what on earth is about to happen.

[00:24:55]For heaven's sake, uh that I wrote uh on the future. I had to change my theology.

[00:25:01]And some of you flat earthers need to change your uh geometry.

[00:25:08]What's the craziest argument you had for evolution? I guess majority opinion.

[00:25:12]Everybody believes it. Therefore, it must be true. I got a short I was going to play with Neil Degrass Tyson saying all the scientists know evolution is true. I'll debate Neil deGrasse Tyson any day of the week. Call him Hovind challenge for I'll pay him 100 bucks to debate me.

[00:25:37]You can see the satellites go up on our sand dune by our cross up here. It's total dark out in Lennox. They just got electricity two weeks ago out here.

[00:25:43]Nobody's hooked up yet. So, um you can see the stars great off. You can watch the satellites. We got five or six telescopes. Come on out. Visit dinosaur.

[00:25:51]We'll show you one then. Then what are you going to say?

[00:25:55]>> Like this question. The sun doesn't really settle in the north pole. Is that not right? I think it's in the winter.

[00:26:02]Well, because the Earth is tilted 23 and a2° in the summer, right? The sun never sets because it's it's facing tilted toward the sun in the winter. I mean, in the summer, the south pole never gets the sunlight. There's a ring. That's why you got these lines 23 and a half degrees away. Uh the Arctic Circle and Antarctic Circle, that's where if you get beyond when you get down below the equator, you can't see the North Star. Why is that?

[00:26:29]They have to use a different way to navigate the southern cross up north of the equator. You see the the pole the poles of the earth if you drew a straight line would go straight almost perfectly to the north star. Why is that? The earth is round and it spins.

[00:26:44]Another question come in while you got your asking about the the true geographical north pole magnetic field >> right the magnetic north pole because the center of the earth appears to be really really hot molten iron and nickel it creates a magnetic field that magnetic field is you know you can't see it it's invisible but it's it the compasses point magnetic north when I was I became I became an eagle scout and we do all the navigation you know we had my dad was a engineer World War II uh and taught us boys all kinds of trig and stuff like that early. You're in Illinois, we had to there's called the angle of declination declines. Okay, just Google angle of declination. If you're in Illinois where I grew up, the north pole is this way. The magnetic north pole was I think 12 degrees off or something. So you look at your compass, your compass is pointing magnetic north.

[00:27:35]If I want to go true north, I got to go 12 degrees off the compass. Now, if you happen to be over here in uh California, it might line up the straight. The two of them might be in straight line, so you don't worry about it. The angle of declination varies great greatly with where you are where you're standing. And the magnetic north pole is is drifting around a little bit, moving around. Uh, can you put up a map of the migration of the magnetic north pole?

[00:28:00]It might be under the real north pole.

[00:28:02]Now, it doesn't matter. It's just it's just the magnetic lines of flux coming out. Nothing coming out. Look, it's like a radio wave. It doesn't you can't see it.

[00:28:12]magnetic north pole.

[00:28:15]Yeah, there you go. It's moving around Canada.

[00:28:22]It's getting close to the real North Pole.

[00:28:25]>> 192.

[00:28:26]>> Okay. So, look at 1960. Where was it?

[00:28:29]Okay.

[00:28:31]>> Yeah, that was 7 years old. So, we had to I I'm guessing it was 12 degrees.

[00:28:38]It's been a long time. it became Eagle Scout. But the compass would point true.

[00:28:41]The compass would always point magnetic north. It's a magnet. It's all it can do. A magnetic compass anyway. And so, um, the north, the magnetic north pole, it can go wherever it wants. I don't care. The real north pole, the whole the whole earth as it spins is also wobbling just a little bit. So, uh, I don't know if the real geographic north pole has ever moved. Google that. Has the geographic north pole moved?

[00:29:08]Yes, it has. But I don't know if it's done in recorded history. I guess I'm what I'm looking for.

[00:29:16]>> You're good over there, Joseph. This is great.

[00:29:22]>> Has the geographic north pole ever moved?

[00:29:37]Huh?

[00:29:38]>> It's a spinning ball. And the idea of the the shaft, if you had a measuring shaft through the ball, like spinning a bell, it it could could wobble some.

[00:29:51]>> What did the clay and iron on that statue mean?

[00:29:55]>> I It looks to me like when Nebuchadnezzar saw this vision of this huge statue right here, and it scared him half to death.

[00:30:04]He woke up in the morning and could not remember what he dreamed. It's all in Daniel chapter 2. And he called all his wise men in and said, "I want you to tell me what does my dream mean." They said, "Oh yes, king. Tell us what it was." He said, "I forgot the dream. I want you to tell me what I dreamed and what it means or else I'm going to kill you." They thought that was kind of unfair, you know. So, he was getting ready to kill them all. Daniel who was a a slave taken over captive probably 17 18 years old God gave him the vision of what the king had dreamed and then he said king I can tell you what you dream and what it means there's going to be five world empires you're the first one the Babylonian empire the head of gold after you is going to come a second one inferior the Persian Empire silver and had eastern and western branch this Persian empire uh the two arms of the Persian then there was the belly and thighs of brass which is the Greek Alexander the Great, the Greek Empire.

[00:30:56]Then the Roman Empire, the iron legions of Rome, the legs were iron and it had an eastern and western also empire. Then the it says they're going to be at the end of time there'll be 10 kings, the 10 toes who try to merge together to make a world empire. It's going to be the weakest one. Um because iron and clay won't mix. So I think the 10 toes represent 10 countries that are going or 10 maybe 10 kingdoms if you can call that who are going to try to get together and make another world empire.

[00:31:24]And that one at the time of that empire during the during the time of the feet and clay coming together a a stone cut out of the mountain without hands is going to come down and smite the image on the feet. It's all in Daniel chapter 2. And then this is all going to crumble and that stone is going to grow to become the real final kingdom of the world, God's kingdom. So I think I cover that in my book in great detail on what on earth is about to happen or you can get on video series if you prefer. Uh well what on earth is about to happen 21 hours with all kinds of charts and visuals. I just want to make it simple people can understand. You may not believe it but you at least understand like my position on the earth. You still may not believe it but you understand what I believe. It's round. It's about 8,000 mi in diameter. It spins toward the east and the magnetic north pole is moving a little bit. real north pole might be wobbling. In the summer, we're tilted away from the sun. And so the sun is 23 and a half degrees below the equator, straight above Australia, straight above. But it never gets any further. If you go further south, the sun's never directly overhead. How do you get the sun directly overhead?

[00:32:30]Well, it depends what time of year it is. Okay, the sunrise, sunset, it all fits perfectly with a spinning globe Earth. Nothing fits with the flat Earth.

[00:32:42]One person told me it's I said, "How far away is the sun?" Oh, it's it's inside this dome. Oh, and how come we can How come we get dark? How can it ever get dark? Well, it's just so far away. How big is that dome?

[00:32:58]If it's a flat Earth and they got sunlight over there, everybody should have sunlight. Duh.

[00:33:03]>> At least we should be able to see their >> should be able to see it. They they held a flashlight close to the ground said, "Well, it's so close to the ground. It's so close. You know, it's only lighting up that spot. That's why we can't see it. Well, if you hold the flashlight to the ground, I can see the light going through the air molecules. Can't you see the shaft of light? I should see something, shouldn't I? How do you get total darkness?

[00:33:25]This is really a new phenomena. Google, when did the flat earth become popular again? I mean, it was settled 400 years ago, but it's become popular again. I think the devil did that just so he could laugh at Christians. If people believe he can talk people into believing they came from Iraq.

[00:33:47]This is not a thing. 1840s flat earth movement. Uh resurgence in the mid2010s. That's what I thought. It's just pretty >> because it wasn't when I was, you know, growing up in science class. Nobody ever talked about that.

[00:34:03]>> Well, nowadays it says new information.

[00:34:06]Oh, okay.

[00:34:08]>> Now, I believe NASA would lie. I believe our government would lie. No question.

[00:34:11]That doesn't mean they're lying about this.

[00:34:15]>> Do you believe in the spiritual gifts like interpretation, speaking in tong?

[00:34:19]>> I've covered that many times on my video number seven. I think the gifts of God like that as far as speaking in tongues especially and healing, I believe they ceased when the Bible was completed.

[00:34:30]When that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away. And those things are in part. this the gift in uh the speaking in tongues in Acts chapter 2. They were given the miraculous ability to speak a language they had never studied. It was an earthly language that names all 17 of them. It was not heavenly jibberjabber, partial syllables running around, you know, dancing around on the ground. Um so I've covered that the gift of tongues. I think it's ego-driven. I think they want to feel more spiritual.

[00:34:56]They want somebody who's read their Bible for 50 years and studied and worked and tried to serve the Lord. They want to walk to the altar and pray in Hebrew Jabber and say, "I'm more spiritual than you because I'm, you know, I spoke in tongues and you didn't."

[00:35:08]Jesus said, "You shall receive power after the Holy Ghost has come upon you and you shall be witnesses." How do you know you're full of the Holy Ghost? You witness to people. You get people saved.

[00:35:17]One guy asked me one time said, uh, said, "I got filled with the Holy Spirit." I said, "Great. Who'd you who'd you win to the Lord?" Why? Nobody. I spoke in tongues. Well, you didn't get what I got. I got a desire to tell the tell the gospel to everybody.

[00:35:33]Somebody said that was built in Texas.

[00:35:38]You asked how big the dome was. They said it was built in Texas.

[00:35:41]>> Oh, it's an interesting question. Do you think long enough?

[00:35:52]>> Have to go through the flood.

[00:35:57]>> I never thought of it. My first reaction would be I doubt it. You know, 4,000 years. Long time for a tree. Trees can go through the flood. That's not a problem. But u see the Noah was in the ark for a year. We don't know. The flood didn't cover every square inch for a year. Some parts of the world might have been only under underwater for a few weeks. If the crust of the earth, the plates of the earth are shifting around.

[00:36:18]Um like in 2011, there was a huge earthquake in Japan called a subduction plate. part of the one of the plates of the earth slid under another one made a tsunami that killed 20,000 people or something. It's awful.

[00:36:33]>> Yeah.

[00:36:35]>> How big of a role do volcanoes play theory of evolution?

[00:36:41]>> I don't think they would fit into either theory. Volcanoes are phenomena because the crust of the earth is all busted up like an eggshell and some of the plates or places where it broke are still moving.

[00:36:49]I think those fault lines happened at the time of the flood when the fountains of the deep broke open and some of them are locked in uh stationary fault. Some are still sliding sideways, a slip fault, uh a strike fault. Some are still sliding under. Just Google different kinds of fault lines. Um the most almost all the earthquakes and volcanoes happen on those fault lines and most of them are pretty well mapped.

[00:37:13]>> Whether we're Jews, Germans, Norwegians, we all have the same digestive system.

[00:37:22]You think Noah had breakfast sandwiches for dinner?

[00:37:28]>> Well, one at a time. No, before they got off the ark, everything was vegetarian.

[00:37:33]When they got off Genesis 9, God said, "Now Noah, now you can eat meat." So, it wasn't until post flood. So, Noah didn't have bacon.

[00:37:40]>> What about the first part? Jews, Germans, Norwegians, we all have the same rules.

[00:37:45]>> We have the same digestive system.

[00:37:46]>> Well, that's what he said. goes on to say, >> "Okay, well, Pastor Bacon, over to me.

[00:37:52]I'll eat it."

[00:37:54]Had it this morning.

[00:37:56]>> Um, these two questions kind of go together. Who do you believe the two witnesses are? And how close do you believe we are seeing Christ return?

[00:38:03]>> Well, in my book and on my chart and my video series, I believe the two witnesses come when he desolates the temple in the middle of the seven-year tribulation. So, after three and a half years, most Christians are going to be killed. I believe because Jesus said in Luke 18:8, "When the son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth." I think there's going to be very few Christians left to be bapt to be raptured. Then it said, "The witnesses witness for 2300 days." That is found in Daniel 9, Daniel 8:14. That's the only reference to that number, 2300. All the rest of them are, 1260, half of half of seven years. Sometimes it's called times time and a half or you know I cover all that in my book. But the witnesses the reason I say there's probably going to be uh 300 days of God's or 300 three years of God's wrath is because that is where the end of the 2300 days is.

[00:38:59]So I admit in my book this is the only thing I'm the more I read I'm still I'm still convinced it's true. I don't know how to prove it's true but it's never uh it's never been proven wrong either. But anyway, I believe to answer your question, it's probably Enoch and Elijah only because they never died. And the Bible says it's appointed under man once to die. So if it turns out to be somebody else, fine with me. Guys can call whoever he wants. I'm a Christian. I'm trying to support Mr. Ro is difficult at times. I would never make fun of someone IQ working at McDonald's because they didn't get a joke. Okay. Well, don't do it then. They knew it was a joke when I got done. I showed them the money. Oh yeah. They laugh about it and then I give them a gospel track and they took it.

[00:39:49]>> More questions about why is everything else.

[00:40:02]>> Why is the what?

[00:40:05]>> Okay. Um, the ground, the dirt has lots of mineral salts in it. How many kinds of mineral salts are there, Joseph?

[00:40:15]Sodium uh, see potassium citrate, potassium, I bet there's hundreds. Uh, how many kinds of mineral salts? Like sodium combines with chlorine and makes table salt.

[00:40:28]Uh, there no single definition. How many kinds?

[00:40:33]table salt, sea salt, rock salt, lake salt, specialty salt. That's how many kinds of mineral salts. Okay, >> it's a bunch. Anyway, those salts are in the ground. When it rains, like it's raining here right now, they're going to wash off into the creeks and rivers and eventually run into the ocean. All the rivers run into the sea. The Bible says that, too. But uh in the ocean, the evaporation from the sun takes the water out but leaves everything else behind.

[00:41:03]It's like a dist distillery. So the oceans are gradually getting saltier.

[00:41:08]Can you Google that? Are the oceans gaining salt?

[00:41:12]Most animals that live in the salt water don't like it. They have to get rid of it somehow, either in their urine or in their tears as they sweat. But some some animals the tears come out and they're rock salt salt crystals.

[00:41:24]No, the global ocean is not gaining salt overall.

[00:41:29]>> I think we've done this before and even Google is saying that the salt evaporates even though we know it stays behind.

[00:41:36]>> If the salt evaporates, how does that happen? First of all, and isn't it going to go back on the land and come right back in?

[00:41:48]>> True. It can be locked into rock at the bottom of the ocean. Some of it is is encased. It's not gone. It's just encased, right?

[00:41:54]>> That's what they're saying. Well, for that and for fishing, the yearly gains are offset each other.

[00:42:00]>> Well, I don't that that they just recently did came to that conclusion because for all of my life, they've they've shown been they've been but I cover that one of my proofs of a young earth. I show all the references the oceans are gaining salt. So, they must have realized, oh no, this hurts our theory.

[00:42:15]But anyway, it comes from the comes from the salt on the ground gets washed in ocean. Now, during the flood, it was all fresh water, I believe. And many animals have had to adapt to the salt water. Go back and watch my video number one. I interviewed a guy who has has aquariums, and he had guppies. I think it was guppies, two aquariums, and he slowly added salt to one of them. And over I think a two or three week period, they got up to the same salinity as the ocean. And they they survived just fine.

[00:42:43]Slow, gradual. They got they got used to living in salt water.

[00:42:47]In the book of Enoch, he says the giants are tall. What do you think?

[00:42:55]That's the L. They use the L 48 in.

[00:43:01]>> What if you use the L as a as a millimeter?

[00:43:04]>> What's a L anyway?

[00:43:05]>> It's old English form of >> measurement.

[00:43:08]>> Yeah.

[00:43:14]>> That's right. The book of Enoch, the three books of Enoch, they're right there. A very interesting reading.

[00:43:19]They're not scripture. They contradict each other. They contradict common sense in many places like that one. And they contradict the Bible.

[00:43:28]Read them if you want. It's kind of a waste of time, but uh don't don't start preaching some doctrine from the book of Enoch. It says, I think it's in the book of Jude that Enoch said.

[00:43:39]So, we don't know that what Enoch said in Jude is the same as these three books. I think somebody read that and said, "Oh, hey, I'm going to write these books and hide them and claim it's from God and I'll claim this is it." Anybody could do that. It's a a spurious book.

[00:43:53]Let's see. Let me see. Uh also Jasher, same thing. Uh oh, hang on.

[00:44:13]No, let me try Enoch here.

[00:44:18]I think it's in Jude.

[00:44:20]Uh, yeah, Jude, which only has one chapter just before Revelation. Jude chapter 1.

[00:44:27]There's only one. Verse 14. Enoch also the seventh from Adam prophesied.

[00:44:33]Okay, so it tells us Enoch prophesied.

[00:44:37]Do you know that the books that we found that they call Enoch are the same ones?

[00:44:40]There's no way to tell that.

[00:44:49]That's it.

[00:44:54]>> Okay.

[00:44:57]>> Joseph, can you um start a folder the evidences that are used for a flat earth? Why do you think it's flat?

[00:45:06]>> Email Joseph your best evidence. Tech support. teec tech support drd.com we will put it all together and answer it all they've known from the days of Columbus used to sit at the seashore and watch the ships come in you see the sail the the flag on top first oh ships coming then you see the top sail then the middle sail because it's coming over the curve of the earth during World War II they had to allow for the curvature of the earth to shoot to shoot battleships you know 25 miles away uh it's round I'm sorry it's Now, if you just you get this picture in your mind. Oh, it's flat. I got it all figured out. There's a dome and all this. Okay, these guys have a picture in their mind, too. Wow, that's that's 200 million years old. They can picture it in their mind. It's got to be true.

[00:45:54]Oh, Strawberry Dave has got a picture in his mind. He's related to a strawberry.

[00:45:59]I can just picture it.

[00:46:03]Can't help you. All right, see you tomorrow night at 7 o'clock tonight.

[00:46:06]nine o'clock every morning. We're going to do this if we can. And 7 o'clock every night I'll do speaking on David Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, but after that take any questions.