PATREON SNEAK PEEK: Black women who don't date Black men, Outing Down Low Men

Added: 2026-05-10

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[00:00:54]That's not okay. And it's mostly coming from black women. And I find that to be very interesting considering black women are most likely to be impacted by the lies of a DO man. And y'all are the same ones that have been saying like, "Oh, being a DO man is so unfair. being a DO man is is how do you not consider me and me allowing me to make my choice? And >> so many women have gotten burned by men who were not honest about the lifestyles they were living. And now other men are holding them accountable by putting them to the forefront. Like, listen, this is who this man is. He didn't want me to post him. It is what it is. And y'all got y' capes on. And I don't understand why. And everybody in the comments, like I said, they're saying, "Oh, this is a dangerous game. I wouldn't play this game. But you know what's dangerous is dealing with a man whom you think is straight only to find out he likes other men and there's other things that go along with that implication. You understand what I'm trying to say? So I think it's very disingenuous for women >> to feel the effects man only for other men, his counterparts to hold him accountable. And y'all are trying to find a reason to save them to put your capes on. Don't do that. You're going to be unal alive. Ma'am, this ain't got nothing to do with you.

[00:02:12]Respectfully. Respectfully, ladies, take your capes off and stay out of it. The >> um So, dust your thoughts.

[00:02:22]Okay, first of all, if it does not affect you, why are you obsessed with I don't understand this obsession with outing DL people, right?

[00:02:36]this conversation we happen to be talking about men, but it's DL women too. And so I don't understand this obsession with one of the ADL man. If you not dating a gay [ __ ] why are you so excited and hell just just hellbound, just just determined to find out who's DL? It's like this this phenomenon. It's this urban legend that people have just attached themselves to so much. Some of it parasoccially, you know what I'm saying? Through internet [ __ ] conversations they see on the internet.

[00:03:04]But this this this this this just they are just locked into this desire to find out who's DL. This big scary boogeyman DL person that they think for some reason is going to try to [ __ ] them and [ __ ] other guys at the same time. A lot of these same women eat [ __ ] casually and engage in casual threesomes and all these other things, but for some reason the worst thing you can do as a black person is be gay a gay man. Right. So now we have this um group of people who are just so determined to find out who's gay and who's not. That woman contradicted herself and she propagated several um homophobic, you know what I'm saying? Um it was a lot of harmful language that she used. And the funny thing is I don't even think she realized she was being harmful in her mind. She was legitimizing her nosiness, right? Legitimizing her nosiness. You so scared of finding out that the guy that you messed with messed around with another guy. That's just your worst nightmare in life. All the [ __ ] going on in the world today. The Voting Rights Act just got snatched down, right? And you on the internet talking about people caping for this and caping for that. Get focused, ma'am, and get you some business and find out about Unless you're in a relationship with a man who you believe is gay and you're looking for information to clear that up. You look really pressed, thirsty, and tired.

[00:04:32]Jumping into this bandwagon of people who are just on this quest of exposing the DL boogeyman. It's lame. It's tired.

[00:04:39]It's rooted in homophobia. That's exactly what it is. Call it what it is.

[00:04:44]You don't like gay people. You just are not bold enough to say it with your chest. And so what you do is now jump into this group of people who are looking for Mr. DL Boogeyman. It's lame.

[00:04:54]It's tired. And it is a dog whistle to homophobia. I'll just leave it there.

[00:05:03]>> Oh, you muted, Carlos.

[00:05:06]>> I'm sorry, Claudia.

[00:05:09]>> There's two different things going on here. So, if you're um worried about other men and their relationships with their partners, like a gay man and a DL man, that's none of your business. I totally agree. Like, why do you care?

[00:05:24]Um, if you're the man that is dealing with a down low man and you're outing your partner, you're [ __ ] up. That you're [ __ ] up. It's one thing if you're a woman that's dating a man that has told you he's monogamous to you and he's he's heterosexual. That's one thing. And then you want to find out who you're with. I want to know who you with outside of being gay. All the things about you.

[00:05:47]Where did you really grow up? How old are you? What's your real name? Uh, you know what I mean? Are you are you vegan?

[00:05:53]Do you drink? I want to know things about my lover. I think I should know who's in my bed. But wanting a man that has agreed to be with the download man I outing someone that you've agreed to go into the bedroom with and you have a relationship with. I think that's so [ __ ] up. Just like if I got into a relationship with a guy and you share my personal stuff I share with you when we're intimate with each other. It's just as much of a betrayal. That's [ __ ] up and that's none of her business. she'd have a point more to say, I want to know if someone I'm personally dealing with where they stand. That's I can give you that.

[00:06:25]There's nothing wrong with that. But why do you care about a man exposing that his lover is down low and has nothing to do with you unless it's your sister or that he's dealing with? Mind your [ __ ] business. That's what I think. I think she kind of mixed two things together in her commentary there. I I don't know. She lost me with some of that. That's mean to down to out out the person you're with. That's crazy to me.

[00:06:52]>> And one last thing, what the hell you mean is some other things that come along with that.

[00:06:57]>> That's a little slick [ __ ] So, what you trying to say? Because I was going to get into that AIDS or an STD or something like that. That's what that was. It is it is alluding to that and it's a dog whistle to again perpetuating those those those stereotypes and those the stigma that is attached to homosexuality that makes people feel like homosexuals are dirty and disease written and that's what she was referring to when she said that. So it just be that kind of little [ __ ] that you have to pay attention to when people are talking about things that that identifies who they really are and what they really have to say. I mean, I do think outing anyone with their sexuality at this point is a danger to society in many ways. We see a lot of trans women outing their partners who aren't, you know, aren't dating or are dating women and dating them as well. Then, I don't know if you guys saw in the same post on TikTok, there's a lot of noise around a 17-year-old boy who outed his DL partner who then later killed him for outing him. So that's I believe took place here in Atlanta. And then we have someone like the DL whisperer who felt like he was given powers to out men who were DL who is now in prison because he also thought that it was okay to stalk TS Madison and docks her address and caused a lot of harm to men who weren't, you know, DL or anything like that. And so I think that there's a lot of things happening here.

[00:08:26]I think a lot of people feel the need to out whoever in their quest for sexuality. I also feel like there is a privilege. This may be one of the only privileges women have because in us being like Dustin said bisexual or experimenting, there's no harm in a woman eating coochie and sucking dick because now it's viewed as, you know, a hypersexuality where a man gets to benefit. And unfortunately, it's not viewed the same when it comes to men being with men or men being with trans women. And it's just really unfortunate.

[00:09:00]I think it's disgusting. I also think when we look at how heterosexual women do date, they do date married men. They do date men with girlfriends. They do agree to date a man who is seen as high power.

[00:09:16]Look at freaking all these women that signed up to be Safon Diggs in in his concubine. It was it was Cardi and four other baby mamas plus the assistant, the hairbrider, the chef. And so this idea that only men who deal with men are carrying these diseases. Yet these men who are having multiple children with women and multiple partners aren't also the same danger is a delusion that I think we have to unlearn. I think that if anything at the very end of the day, if you are going into dealing with anybody, you have the conversations early and you make sure you protect yourself whether you are in a exclusive closed relationship or not. That's the only way to protect yourself is to make sure you stay tested and keep talking.

[00:10:00]But I think it's nasty. I think it's disgusting. And I think that nobody should feel the need to go on the internet and out anybody in what they're doing behind closed doors. I don't get people that out people that they're with.

[00:10:12]>> They're with real quick is what we're seeing right now with the Boston Richie thing.

[00:10:18]>> You were actively pegging this man and as soon as y'all break up now Boston Richie it's a rapper.

[00:10:26]>> Boston Richie is a rapper.

[00:10:27]>> Okay.

[00:10:28]>> Um and he is really disgusting because not only was he an abuser physically to this girl, he started dating her when she was just 15 years old. So he physically abused her. He made her sit in a car from Orlando to Alabama naked while she was on her period with other men in the vehicle. And she has come out to also share that nine other 15year-old girls have DM'd her that this man is, you know, DMing these underage girls trying to, you know, meet up with them.

[00:11:02]However, the internet only cares with the fact that she also posted text messages of him wanting to be pegged.

[00:11:10]And so, [ __ ] the fact that he's an abuser. [ __ ] the fact that he's a pedophile. Oh my god, this rapper is getting pegged in the ass. Heaven forbid. So, even the conversation has even been more about this black man's sexuality than the fact that he's an actual deviant to society and black women and black girls. So, the fact that we care so much about a man's sexuality over the fact of how he's actually treating his partners is also crazy. I just am at this point befuddled at how much we still care about sexuality as it pertains to all of us, men and women. It's crazy to me.

[00:11:50]>> That's why I don't understand when someone that's a transw woman will out >> yes >> lover but then fight so hard to say, "But I'm a woman, >> but I'm a woman." are, then there should be no taboo. There should be nothing taboo about what y'all are doing. And why would you like it's like you can't have it both ways. That's having a foot on both sides and then using that as a privilege, I guess, in a way or as like your your big joker to okay, you hurt my feelings. I'm going to expose you. What are you exposing them for? If you're a woman, right, you feel you're a woman.

[00:12:20]You are moving.

[00:12:21]>> Why are you exposing?

[00:12:22]>> Why are you exposing? Like I think that's [ __ ] up. Again, that's something that >> Well, I just want to be clear though, right? Because we can't conflate the two things. their identity expression really don't have nothing to do with them keeping a secret for somebody or not. I just want to be clear about that. Right?

[00:12:35]When we say things like, "But you want you're a woman. You want people to say you're a woman, but why you think it's cool to tell on them?" Two different things, right? The way people choose to express their gender and be identified is a little bit different than like deciding to keep a secret for somebody and then on mad day tell on it. That's all. Well, I'm I'm >> I know what you mean. I just want to be clear because they're gonna take your words and turn it into something else that you're not saying. So, I want to be clear about what you're not saying.

[00:13:02]That's all.

[00:13:02]>> Well, I I I do mean it though. I I I do mean it. I do. I do mean it. I'm standing on this because Okay. Um you you are a woman, right? You're a trans woman.

[00:13:15]>> So, you're you're going into this relationship as a heterero couple, right? You're not going into as a gay couple. And and I've seen many conversations on this where I'm like okay like Hope Jazelle example had lives a relationship married to a man and they don't say they're gay and none of that.

[00:13:35]Hope says I am a I'm a woman and I respect that. So on mad day you cannot then use weaponize that and say um you you know you you like you like men you like because you're not you are living as a woman and we should and we respect that. we respect your how you feel, how you identify and all of that. So that's what I'm saying. I just I I I don't like people to use that against like I think we're saying similar things like Mad Day um keep the same energy on Mad Day as you are on Happy Day.

[00:14:03]>> But a woman is the one who just exposed Real Boss and Richie on Mad Day.

[00:14:08]>> Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I know that.

[00:14:09]But our initial >> like them woman as a woman, that's a point I'm making, I guess. Like them being a woman is not indicative of whether or not they're going to keep this secret or not. You know what I'm saying? It's just at the end of the day, it's wrong to tell anybody's secret on Mad Day, no matter what.