The video masterfully exposes how prejudice collapses when its pseudo-logical "harm" arguments are subjected to basic consistency tests. The opponent’s eventual descent into insults is the ultimate white flag of intellectual defeat.
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Liam, >> what did that accomplish?
>> Liam, >> you need to you need to understand >> you're like three standard deviations below the mean. Like you should probably shut I think the frankly I think like the harm reducing thing I think the utilitarian thing for you to do is to shut the [ __ ] up for the rest of your life. Frankly, Liam, like I I actually think that when you speak, you make the people around you like actively stupider. I think that you might be the Benjamin Button of IQ. That you started off, you were born, you had 160 IQ, and you've been tempering IQ ever since.
You've been losing [ __ ] one nay two IQ points a year. You're on track for zero. Zero IQ. Liam is 100. Liam, >> what is he? What is the average?
>> The average is 100 IQ.
>> Okay.
So, throwing a a throwing a IQ test at someone.
>> It's an IQ test. Leon, this is why you scored so low. Hey, how's it going?
>> Good. How are you doing?
>> Doing well. How old are you?
>> I'm 45.
>> And do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> Um, yes. I think that I think that you can battle um attraction and that's not wrong. And I think that a lot of people should be in control of their lives and make the right choices even if they are you know um trying to you know resist those temptations. I think yeah the temptation of being gay is not wrong but the act of intimacy with same sex is yes it's wrong.
>> Why is that wrong?
Um, a lot of reasons. I mean, I could say, do do you think that harm is wrong?
>> Uh, by harm you mean what?
>> Um, >> I think harm in the world. Adding more harm to the world when it's um when you could otherwise not.
>> So, that's not a very informative definition. Kind of what I'm looking for is like when you say >> please answer the question.
I don't know what your question is asking because there's like some criteria of harm. Like maybe by harm you mean something like pain. Do I think pain is bad? Not inherently. For example, you could have like a painful workout. I don't think that that's like necessarily wrong.
>> Okay, let me break it down. Let me break it down simpler so you'll understand.
>> Yeah, please just give like a semantic reduction of what you mean by harm.
If someone doesn't ask for it and you bring harm into someone's life, do you think that that that is justified?
>> Typically, no. Although, I'm sure I could think of some cases. It it pro again, it probably depends on what you mean by harm. For example, like if a parent takes their kid to the dentist and the dentist like drills into the kid's teeth, you know, that's harmful.
If I walked up to you, >> that's probably like painful, but I don't know if I'd say >> if I walked up to you and never had seen you or spoke to you before and sucker punch you directly in the face, would you say say I was justified in doing that?
>> No, you'd have like good primaascia reason to not do that. I just want to know what you mean by harm so I can tell you whether or not I think harm is always bad.
>> Okay, cool. So, do you do you think that do you think that there has ever been a husband and wife and and that man in that relationship slept with another man attracted a STI and then gave that to his wife?
>> That probably has happened and I would think that that's >> happened a lot.
>> I don't think I've said anything that would disagree with that. Also, I don't know how would that be considered.
>> When you say a lot, what do you mean?
>> Would that be considered?
>> Sorry, you just made a claim. You always going to be considered because he knows he can't defend it. So, now you're getting your question. But first, I just want to point something out really quick, which is that you claim that it's happened after literally refused to actually clarify or substantiate the point, but sure. Yeah, it is wrong. As I've already said, I don't know what you think fake laughter is going to do.
>> I only say this because I learned it from you. Your back just got blown out.
Okay, so let me continue.
>> Do you think Do you think that if anybody watching back seeing you like fumble around with like the word harm?
>> [ __ ] Liam, do I need to get as drunk as you are so that it's like a fair debate?
Do I need to do some >> I love when people project >> lies try to make I actually will do it.
Just give me a second.
>> Dude, this guy has to say that I'm drinking so he can actually think he's winning the debate.
And you follow this guy, chat. Wow.
Wow.
Hey chat, just so you know.
Hey chat, it's Molly.
I muted Liam.
always a self-hating white woman at ladies and gentlemen.
Okay.
All right. Your little your little girlfriend came up and moderated while you were gone.
>> Good.
>> Yeah. She said that she hates the color of her skin. She wishes she was black.
For some reason, I don't think she said that.
>> She's exactly what she said.
>> I I bet if I check the replay, she didn't say that. You know, I I'm I'm getting revelation from Allah. Even Allah is telling me that she didn't say that.
>> So, I'm drunk on Waterlue right here. Do you see that? See that right there? See that?
>> Why? That's That's kind of crazy that that's what you look like.
a person. I did. Did I say that you look like a reject from Liam? I gota be honest. You look like a reject from the world.
>> You're like way uglier than I thought you would. I thought you'd look like at least like six out of 10 conservative guy, but instead here you are like a like a two out of 10 like Cletus. You're like Cletus maxed.
>> Two out of 10.
>> It's probably over. Uh your parents are siblings.
>> Do you wear contacts?
>> No. 2020.
>> Then you should then you should start, bro. Also, why are you a retail Wait, I'm so sorry. Wait, turn your camera back on. If you think you're attract, why are you a reject from the Lord of the Rings?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I bet I'm probably taller than you.
>> And what? I'm six foot. Are you over six foot?
>> Yeah, I'm six foot. We're the same height. So, if I'm if I'm a hobbit, then you're a hobbit, too.
>> No, I don't think you're six foot.
>> I am. It's It's literally There's like a like a video of me standing up straight, you know, when I debated Jordan Peterson.
when you got dogwalked by Jordan Peterson.
>> That's one point that you think that he went on.
>> I don't think there was one. I think from the opening Hello, my name is Jordan Peterson.
>> He beat you. So the entirety of it.
>> Wait one sec.
>> Final claim is that atheist.
>> Let me let me go ahead and like display.
>> If I was to say what point he won on, he won that he showed that you were a disrespectful young man. So he won on that aspect.
>> Okay. And what did I say that was disrespectful? accept Christian morality but deny the religion's foundational stories.
>> Look at that. I'm like the same height as like Parker. And Parker, by the way, is like 62.
>> You're so welldressed, though. I will say that about you. You are a a beacon of You're a beacon of fashion for sure, bro.
>> Come out of the Dude, come out of the basement once in a while. Seriously, >> bro. This fit this fit was [ __ ] fire, dude. This was This was like >> Yo, this [ __ ] was like a It was like a [ __ ] post, dude. I have like It's like the It's like the Septuple extra large shirt. And then I I threw the tie on there cuz I thought it was so funny.
>> Dude, are you part of the Neanderthal crew or what?
>> What is the lock around your neck? It's locking in the stupidity as well or what?
>> It's locking in the win against [ __ ] like you. Every single time there was some sort of mouth breather like you, I beat them the [ __ ] down.
>> Easy on the locking in the the date with your wife later tonight.
>> I thought you had a girlfriend. She wouldn't be happy with that.
>> But, you know, my girlfriend wouldn't be >> going out with my wife, >> but you know, I think she would understand that sometimes duty calls, you know, she would certainly consent to it. And if she didn't, I never would, >> you know. So, I hope Dr. in the comments section cuz I was thinking about this one. You know, uh let's picture let's picture that I was [ __ ] your wife at at light speed and then you were on Earth uh watching us from the cuck chair and there's you know a particle of light traveling from your perspective traveling next to me [ __ ] your wife at light speed. You know, you would see me traveling with the particle at like roughly the same direction and pace. Uh whereas, you know, from from the perspective of me and your wife [ __ ] at light speed, you know, the the particle would have zoomed off into the distance. You know, from, you know, from the cuck perspective, it's going to look like we're roughly at the same location as the light, but from, you know, the the Chad perspective, the light is is long gone.
>> Do you like objectifying women?
>> No.
>> Cuz you just did that towards my wife.
Why would you do that?
>> Why would you objectify?
>> I know your wife. There's going to be a difference between D versus modality.
You are in the cut.
>> I concerned about objectifying his wife when in fact under his own criteria he got objectified too and had [ __ ] to say about it.
>> Like calm down.
>> This is not about me. This is about you and dismantling the dismantling the patriarchy of atheism.
>> Whoa. There's no need to get upset.
Also, >> you have no morality. You have no morality.
>> Oh, you don't want to do that one. He got blown the [ __ ] out of >> dude. You can't stand up. We've You and I have already talked.
>> Let's do a moral debate.
>> We've had an hour and 45 minute conversation and I dog walked the hell out of you.
>> Yeah. What's one point that you think that you did well on?
>> Okay.
>> So many points that he won't even be able to >> Okay. I'll tell you my point. I told you to to put up or shut up. And that meant show me your show me your documentation.
Okay. In your book that you've written.
Okay. Show it to me.
>> Why would I need that?
>> Oh, that's right. You haven't written jack [ __ ] >> Yeah. Why would I need to? Why would that make my arguments more true if they're published or not?
>> Why would that make the logic more entailing?
>> Because they would be because they would be tested by the world.
>> They're already tested by the world.
>> Exam. No, they're not. You're a tick tock.
>> Wait, how about you?
>> Whoa. Calm down. You You're having a bit of an outburst. Seriously, take a deep breath.
>> I'm good, bro.
>> Everyone just heard it. There was like a rise in your voice. I didn't have to object keyboard warrior.
I didn't have to I didn't have to objectify women like you. Okay.
>> Oh gosh. Yeah. I bet I bet every person that interacts with you objectifies you the way that you get [ __ ] ragd dollled in conversation after conversation. You get folded like a [ __ ] chair. You know, in some sense they definitely objectify you.
>> Okay, back. Let's go back to the conversation.
>> I wouldn't want to I don't think you're trying to argue with me on rhetoric. I think you're going to lose in a battle of rhetoric. I think you'd be best sticking to the substance.
>> Dude, you know what this is like right now?
>> Yeah, I know what it's like. It's like a film.
>> This is like asking the the youngest kid, the most unintellig youngest kid in the short bus to have a debate, okay, with the smartest man in the world. Okay, so just stop. Okay.
No way. No [ __ ] way. Okay.
>> Oh god.
So funny, dude. Oh, holy [ __ ] Um >> I Your weak insults don't bother me.
>> Oh, they clearly do. Yeah, I've like clearly gotten under your skin.
>> Let me Let me make sure that I'm making it a fair debate. Let me take another sip.
>> I talked about less harm in this world.
I want you to stop harming women through objectifying them. Okay.
>> Didn't happen.
>> You did. You have a girlfriend and you said you want to hook up with another man.
>> Whoa. Yeah. Consensually with my girlfriend's consent, of course. And your wife's consent, of course.
>> You actually think she would consent to that? Your girlfriend possibly?
>> Yeah. I mean, the way that you look, I'm I'm [ __ ] sure your wife would consent to it.
>> Boom.
>> How How old are How old are you? How old are you, Ann?
>> 25.
I'm You're 25 and I'm 45.
>> Okay. Yeah, you probably can't even get it up anymore.
>> And I'm look maxing you at 45. That's >> He can't even use the word. Oh, he uses the words like a boomer. No, I'm looks maxing you. God, he's [ __ ] stupid.
>> Dude, I have more hair on my face.
>> Look at the guy that quote looks maxes me unquote.
>> See that jawline right there? See that?
>> I can't. Yo, let me let me bust out my [ __ ] microscope.
>> All my teeth. All my teeth. Dude, look.
I'm Look, look at this, dude. I wish we could do a side by side. You don't have a chance, little fella. Okay. You don't have a chance.
>> Let's do a mugg off.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't even know why you would turn your camera on. Like, that's actually humiliating.
>> Good luck with your wife ever saying, "Sure, I'll marry you." But anyway, let's >> She's my girlfriend. If she's If she's my wife, she would have already married me.
>> Yeah. I mean, >> you have like a severe mental illness.
your wife, >> then she would have already married me.
>> That's so that's if she's okay with you, you know, hooking up with other other men's wives. I'm not sure.
>> Yeah, sometimes sometimes it's going to call for it. I think she'll understand.
And if she doesn't want me to, I never would.
>> Okay. So, I back to the harm theory here. Didn't I didn't I didn't I tell you that um men sleeping with men have given uh women ST STI and actually even said that that's bad >> a actually even taken their lives.
>> Okay. And I agree with you. So we agreed on the first thing but if if men have would have never slept with men would those women still be alive and still thrive and have the rest of their lives to live on this planet?
>> Yep. Yeah. But you can make the same argument about a lot of things.
>> So is that unjust?
>> So for example, you could contract an STD. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's just calm down.
>> Is that unjustifiable harm?
>> Calm down there. Take a deep breath.
Yeah, I would think that that specific instance is unjustifiable harm. But consider this counter example. You could have gotten something like AIDS. In fact, there's probably many cases of people getting AIDS when their husband goes and sleeps with like a prostitute, a straight prostitute, and then gives that to their wife. That doesn't mean that straight sex is wrong. So, I'm not sure why that would mean that gay sex is wrong. What I do think is wrong is having protected sex.
>> Stop right there.
>> Also cheating.
>> Yeah, stop right there, please. Okay.
>> Yeah, I'm getting pulled over. Yeah.
Yeah, >> you're getting pulled over and and f and frisk and handcuffed.
>> Okay, for the stupidity that you are.
>> He's gonna frisk me, dude.
>> Slammed on the hood.
>> Do you think uh you think uh with all the frisking you're doing and all the slamming on the hood you're doing? You think that you wouldn't have any problem with being gay?
>> You're one of those first amending gay person, >> dude. You're one of those First Amendment auditors. gets drugged out of his car and hit with a billy club. Okay, so you stop talking.
>> Those people are dumb. If the cop shows up to you, you say, uh, well, I mean, if you're white, you say, uh, have a good day, officer. You know, I was going here. And if you're not, um, or if the cop is like asking you questions, you say, I plead the fifth.
That's fine. I agree with that. Okay.
So, um, where were we at before you just got emotional and you're loaded with, uh, HRT? I don't know. Where were we at in the conversation?
>> You know, HRT just means hormone replacement therapy. If I got loaded up with testosterone, that would also be HRT. You realize that, you stupid [ __ ] right? Did that point go above your head? Maybe you're so so like hobbit sized that you're not tracking. Hey, good try.
>> Your insult completely blow up in your face. You know, I'm sorry that your lack of understanding betrayed you again. I'm sure it's a recurrent theme in your life. I'm sure the fact that you understand so little probably pops up again and again in your life. Even the people that love >> probably went above your hat.
>> Oh god.
>> Even the people in the chat that love you know that I was talking about estrogen. Okay, so just stop.
>> People in the chat know that HRT refers to hor hormone replacement therapy. And if you got testosterone, that would also count as HRT.
>> Dude, listen. You No one ever says Ian is loaded up with uh with anything other than estrogen. Okay.
>> Yeah. And you know who loves the fact that I'm so loaded up with estrogen?
>> My girlfriend. boyfriend.
>> Okay. So, anyway, um so yeah, back to the harm theory. You said, "Why is it wrong to be gay?" Okay.
Now, what group >> what group of people um have the largest number of STI? Would this be um >> It's probably people in like the 1960s.
>> Would this be straight straight couples?
Do you know who has the lowest rate? I think lesbians.
>> Okay. I said which one has the highest rate of SDI?
>> Yeah. Let's say gay people. Who has the lowest?
>> What? What are gay people? Are these lesbians?
>> Lesbians count as gay?
>> No. Yeah, I know. I But I'm just asking.
Would that be lesbians have the highest uh number of >> S? No. Like like gay men probably have the highest rate and then the lowest rate goes to the lesbians. So, I guess like I guess we're going to have to jettison uh into the void of immorality uh both uh straight couples and gay men and then lesbian sex is the only type of sex.
>> So, it's so [ __ ] [ __ ] >> So, it's so under the harm theory, it's just wrong to be gay if you're if you're a men with men, but women with women, it's fine. That's that's >> Is that Is that what you're saying? Is that your stance?
>> No. No. My my stance >> What's the What's wrong with being a lesbian? My stance is that it's um immoral and it's it's uh all the way around. It's it's all the LGBTQIA plus community. All of it is umbrella under um you know >> I think it's all wrong.
>> But what's wrong with being like lesbian for example?
>> Um I think that it goes against the laws of nature. I really do.
>> Like what?
>> Like >> where can I read these laws of nature?
I think you and I are here because of the laws of nature.
>> Where can I read these laws of nature?
What are you talking about?
>> Did you just hear a word? What?
>> Yeah. You said, you know, it's wrong because it goes against the laws of nature. You and I are here because of the laws of nature.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Did your mothers of nature?
>> Did your mother and never going to get an answer to that question.
>> Did your mother and her girlfriend produce you?
>> No. My mother and her husband produced me.
>> Oh, your mom and your dad?
>> YEAH.
OH, GOOD. GOOD LITTLE FELLA. BOY, good job. Is that Is that natural? Would you say that's natural?
>> By natural, you mean what?
>> Um something that >> something that's not forced that just um you know, >> I don't I think a lot of gay sex isn't forced. A lot of lesbian sex isn't forced.
>> Why did you You know how creepy it is that you went right there. Gay sex.
>> Wow. It's almost like we're having a topic about gay sex lesbian sex. You think it's insane to talk about gay sex in a debate about whether or not gay sex is wrong?
>> Yeah. Can I >> I'm like I I feel myself like slipping closer and closer, dude. I'm like fighting off. Can't call him ableist words.
can't.
>> So, you think that the male anus is um is equal to a woman's vagina?
>> I don't know what the [ __ ] equal means.
>> I'm not sure what that's referring to.
Equal in what sense? Along what degree?
>> No, because you just you honestly don't think that there are laws of nature. You don't think that things >> I'm asking you where are what are the laws of nature? What do you mean by that?
>> Are you saying like laws of physics?
Like what law of physics does being gay?
>> Dude, why are you so emotional? Why can't you just honestly waste your time?
>> Sound like you're on the verge of tears calling anyone else emotional. Holy [ __ ] >> I'm on the ver I'm not on the verge of anything.
>> You sound like you're on the verge of tears.
>> Stop. Stop.
>> But the way I've been [ __ ] you this entire conversation, you're also probably on the edge of something else.
Are you actually are you are you gay gay curious?
>> Uh it depends on your metaphysics of gender.
>> Also, one thing I just want to know where you're where you're at with the idea of >> if a trans woman >> Oh gosh.
>> is with if a trans woman is with a man, is that a straight relationship or is that >> Probably not. I think I'd probably say that that's a queer relationship.
>> Okay. I just want to see. I mean, you're pretty far out there, but that one you did answer correctly. I'll give you the W on that one.
>> Wow.
>> I don't know. I think I think any relationship with a trans person is automatically queer.
>> So So trans uh trans women are men, right? That's what you're saying.
>> No.
>> No. Queer just means not straight.
>> But you just said No, you just said that there was two that would be two men.
>> I didn't say that would be two men.
That's not what I said.
>> Yes, you did.
>> You have like a hearing problem. Let's just watch the replay. You said it would be a gay relationship. You said it would be severe tracking failure on your part.
>> No, you just made >> I said it would be a queer relationship.
>> You made a boo boo.
>> That's just not what I said. Let's listen.
>> That should be under your world. Whoa.
Calm down. No need to soy out.
>> Under your world view relationship.
>> Whoa. Let's just watch.
>> You think that the male anus is >> Let's check the replay. Let's check.
Okay. I just want to see. I mean, you're pretty far out there, but that one you didn't answer correctly.
>> Why did you go back to me saying male anus? Is that what you wanted to hear?
>> Uh, it depends on your metaphysics of gender.
>> Also, one thing I just want to know where you're where you're at with the idea of >> if a trans woman >> Oh gosh.
>> is with if a trans woman is with a man, is that a straight relationship or is that Not. I think I'd probably say that that's a queer relationship.
>> Okay. I just want to I mean, you're pretty far out there, but that one you didn't answer correctly. I'll give you the W on that one.
>> Wow.
>> I don't know. I think I think any relationship with a trans person is automatically queer.
>> So, so trans uh trans women are men, right? That's what you're saying.
>> No.
>> No. Queer just means not straight.
>> But you just said No, you just said that there was two. That would be two men. I didn't say that would be two men. That's not what I said. He's [ __ ] hallucinating, dude. I've slammed you so hard that you're concussed. You're literally imagining hearing things that I didn't say. M Maybe I've filled your ears with my rhetorical [ __ ] shots that you actually just can't hear properly.
>> You're so creepy, bro.
>> We literally just watched the replay.
You made a claim that I claimed that it would be two men and it wasn't right. We We watched the replay and I just didn't say the thing that you claimed that I said.
No, dude. You just said first you said comesh shots in my ear. Yes. Then you then you >> I'm going to give you more throughout the course of the conversation. Even more shots in your ear.
>> Then you recorded the playback to where I said male anus cuz that's what she really wanted to hear. Okay.
>> And this is all leading up to you saying >> I'm gay. Okay. And I know we're going to eventually get there.
>> You know, you know, two people can be gay.
>> You know that's possible, right? Two people can be gay.
>> Yeah.
>> Are we about to Are we about to kiss?
>> No. No. Not at all, bro.
>> This is You're an absolute creep, bro. You're such a creep, bro. You're such a treat, man.
>> Kiss kiss.
>> Wow. Okay. Where were we at? How are you supposed to track with this?
How are you supposed to track with you, dude? You're such a buffoon.
Wow.
Um, so yes.
Uh, you have been you've been getting funnier. I will give you that for sure.
>> Yeah. Why um can you give me your reasoning why being gay is not um is not wrong?
>> Uh because I think that in order for something to be wrong, it would need to be vicious. It would need to be unverirtuous. And I don't think that being gay uh goes against your virtue.
Well, I would say that in this community, I would say that uh domestic violence I think that the that the domestic violence is the highest in um lesbian relationships. That is peer-reviewed studies. We weed that >> I don't want to go out of the app and look for it right now. You can find it.
Okay.
>> Yeah. Let's look. Are gay relationships more likely?
I think it would be I think I think what they would actually say is by lesbian relationships. Yes, it's the highest amongst by lesbian relationships.
>> I've searched it up. I've searched it up a few times. So, >> two very boring minutes later.
>> Uh no, it looks like it's around the same rate.
>> It's not around the same rate. It is higher amongst by lesbian uh partners >> according to the the US national survey.
>> Why are you going to the US national survey?
>> Because it's reliable. Because it's like >> I don't know encompassing.
>> It's reliable because it fits your narrative. Is that what you're trying to say here or what?
>> It's just like a national survey. My bad.
I mean, you have to you have to look at >> listen, you know, when I want reliable data, you know, I go to to the United States government and the national surveys that they do. And, you know, when you're looking for a good time, you go to Grinder. You know, we both have our thing.
>> Yeah. When I go when I want to get perfect, accurate information, I go to, you know, um do I go to the government website. I go to Donald Trump from his mouth. I want perfect accurate information. I want to say I want to hear it from the horse's mouth.
>> Oh, I thought you were going to extract it from other places from Trump.
>> Oh, wait. Ag, are you speaking?
>> No, sorry. Um, and here here's actually you said lesbian, right? Um, but right here it says there are more cases of domestic violence among males living with male partners than among males who live with female partners. Females who live with female partners.
>> But uh, what are you doing? This is not even right. Females living with female partners experience less domestic violence than females living with males.
And this is the NIH, by the way.
>> Yeah, you're slurring your words. You don't know what you're talking about.
>> So funny coming from you.
>> Um, so I mean, what do you make of this then? Because this is the NIH.
>> Um, I think that you're in a you're a by um lesbian and you're probably very biased on this topic. So, you came up here to rescue you came up here to rescue Ian because he's getting dogwalked.
>> What a what a great adome.
>> Yeah. And you're li >> uh what do I make of this empirical data? Uh you're gay.
>> Yeah. What I mean it's very relevant in this conversation because you would come up a reputation of the data >> as a gay person. You think that even addresses the data?
>> It was bias. Yes. your biasy is is um >> is there a causal chain there? Like what's the causal chain between AG is gay, therefore we can't trust the data that's peer-reviewed.
>> Yeah, exactly. It's called it's called being biased.
>> It's like retrocausality.
>> So let me So I was wrong. So Ag tell me that you're not gay. You're actually straight.
>> Oh, that's not the claim. I just want to know what the >> I want to see. I could be wrong.
>> No, no. Gay Ag heard the voice is gay.
Of course. Oh, that's Oh, >> for real.
>> How did I know that? How did I know?
>> Because I've debated you several times and every time >> I've never debated you before.
>> That's cuz he's always drunk. You always [ __ ] black.
>> That makes sense. He can't remember.
>> I'm telling you, these Waterloos these days, man, they're putting something in these things that are intoxicating me.
>> I'm sure that's what you're thinking.
>> Ian, I've never Listen, I've >> Ian, I've never said that you're impaired. That would make me look like a bad debater. I think that you've been under warning that earlier you said that I was on the mist.
>> I thought you said that earlier I like rode the short bus. I could be mistaken.
>> That's just where you are mentally and in your cognitive.
>> When you say impairment, you mean not like literal like you don't mean like a disability. You mean Well, it would be true to say that I'm impaired medicated.
Drank like a like a bunch of uh fireball.
Yeah, you're you're saying this is self-medicating or >> what does a what does a wizard from D and D have in common with me at all the parties that I went to in college?
>> Uh, what does it have in common with you?
>> Um, your daddy and mommy are paying your bills.
>> You think that's true of a D and D wizard? Are you stupid?
Do you think you think a trait true of D and D mommy and daddy are playing their build? It's >> just a Halloween costume.
>> Do you have like brain damage being made by daddy and mommy? Yeah.
>> The the D&D wizard they cast fireball and me, >> you know, I I love fireball.
>> So, you're drinking fireball right now.
>> Mhm.
And you're telling me as as I'm having a waterlue that I'm the one that's drinking.
>> That's just you, Chaser. We all know we all know that you have something else over there.
>> You know, I'm sure you have I'm sure you have Gregory on your one hand and you got the the [ __ ] handle of vodka on your other.
>> So Ian, you don't believe that there's there's a negative outcome where two male consenting adults.
>> He's shortcircuiting. being no being with each other. You don't see >> short circuited to the top of the dialogue tree.
>> You don't you don't see any negative outcome.
>> Certainly in some cases there are negative outcomes. I don't think there's inherently a negative outcome.
>> Okay. So under your world view um two brothers that are related that are adults that love each other.
>> No, it's going to be wrong. No, there is something wrong with that.
>> Why is what's wrong with that? Yeah, because in order to live your best life, you need to form the most meaning ah [ __ ] meaningful relationships that you're capable of forming and in order to form those sorts of relationships.
Um, you know, one of those relationships is like a like a familial relationship.
So if you have a brother, um, that's like a unique relationship that you alone are capable of forming. Um, you know, a relationship wherein you're not going to have nothing audience is confused. Try to be precise.
Okay, >> answer my question.
>> Familial can be very unique and informative towards living.
You can [ __ ] any person you'd like, but in terms of familial relationships, you should keep them familial >> in so far as they're like a unique connection that you have with another person.
>> So, would you like to get familiar with um your girlfriend as much as possible?
>> He doesn't know what the word familiar is. He thinks that I slurring my words the way that he slurs his words. If I meant familiar, I would have said familiar. I said familial. You're a [ __ ] >> Do you want to get to know your girlfriend is as indepthly as possible?
>> Yeah.
>> Because you're intrigued by this person's mind, body, say, I don't know.
I would say her spirit. Yeah.
>> Spiritual experience kissing that girl.
>> Okay.
Thank you, RC. So you you Yeah. That's a spiritual connection that you guys have, right? Even though you don't believe in spiritual things. Yeah.
>> Right.
>> Okay.
So that's like that's the most amazing thing that happens is getting to know this person that you love even more in depthly.
Correct.
So why would it not be >> that that siblings under your worldview siblings know each other so well and then they fall in love. Obviously two brothers cannot conceive a child together. There's no womb there. Okay.
There's no there's no ovaries. So tell me how in your world view >> maybe if you had some ovaries you'd make a bit more sense.
>> Stop. Maybe you'd be a bit emotional if you had some ovaries. You can't you can't debate if you if you're going to troll, bro.
>> Yeah, I can. Watch me.
>> I'm trying to hold your hand and walk you down the alleyway and you're not going to be able to turn.
>> I bet you probably hold a lot of people's hands and walk them down the alleyway.
>> You're going to get lost in an alleyway that has a dead end because >> I bet I bet you spend lots of time in the alleyway, don't you?
So tell me tell me the difference between two brothers and two and two men that are not related.
>> I think I I could have sworn I already told you this. I can tell you what it is.
>> No, you didn't. You word solid nothing.
>> Sounds like you weren't tracking.
>> No, we were all not tracking in your stupidity. Try again.
>> I bet a lot of people were probably tracking.
>> We'll give you round two. You got badgered in >> I love I always love when I get Liam for round two. Two rounds.
>> Yeah. Ding ding ding is the sound of me [ __ ] [ __ ] smacking him over and over again.
>> Ding ding ding.
>> Another [ __ ] smack over and over again.
He just [ __ ] loves the the feeling of my micing off of his face.
>> This was a Mike Tyson dick is like Tyson slap it against your face. Sometimes it does knock you out and nevertheless I I keep on doing it because you love it and you consent to it and you keep coming back.
>> Yeah. Nobody cares about your Jewish little tiny wiener. Okay. Just shut up, bro.
>> Of course he's an anti-semite, dude. Can you imagine? Like, of course he has like 30 IQ points. That's just like evident, you know, ASA. Frankly, >> I love you. How could I be surprised?
I'm just saying.
>> Yeah. Oh, I love Jewish people. You're tiny Jewish [ __ ] we known for being and I know I know my dick is teeny tiny, but it packs a lot of girth, which is why it has that knockout punch. You know, if you had if you had a long wiener, you know, you'd like lose so much and and the the [ __ ] like you'd have to really torque that [ __ ] Not me, you know? It's it's [ __ ] you know, it's explosive like Mike Tyson, you know, it's like straight. You can [ __ ] turn into it.
>> Two things can be true. It's the knockout.
>> Two things can be true at the same time.
You have an you have a girthy innie.
Okay, so just shut up. We get it.
>> Damn. This is the guy that rejects trans people, by the way, is the guy who goes around saying you have a girthy innie.
>> Yeah, that's pretty much it right there.
That sums it up.
>> Uh you're you're a woman unless you're a trans woman, in which case you're a man.
>> Round two.
>> That's Liam's philosophy.
>> Round two. Explain yourself.
>> Yeah. In terms of why incest is wrong.
No. Why? It's why it's different when they're related as brothers.
>> So why incest is wrong?
>> Why would incest be wrong between a brother and a sister? Let's give you something easy for you. Why would it be wrong?
>> Well, that's wrong for two reasons. One, the reason that I already outlined that it destroys the familial relation. Uh and the second reason is because it has the risk of producing uh kids that are at a much greater likelihood to have like recessive genes or like recessive genetic.
>> Which one of those would be more harmful?
>> They're both harmful.
>> They're both No, I said more harmful.
>> They're both harmful. I don't know how to weigh harm for a case like this.
>> You don't know how to weigh physical harm. I I'm not sure which more of an innocent child >> like the destroying of the familial relationship or the genetics you absolutely >> I think both of them are harmful.
>> Did you just not hear what I said?
>> I did.
>> Which one brings forth more harm?
>> I I think that's like a rough summary of the >> which one brings forth more?
>> Could be mistaken. Maybe maybe I was wrong. I I could have sworn that that's what you just said.
Have you ever beat me in a debate at all? Even close?
>> Yeah, I beat you in a debate and then I found you IRL and beat you then, too.
>> And then we we for League of Legends. I found you in League of Legends and I beat you then, too.
>> Um, you know, and then and then I found you in the beat picking fields and we picked beats together and I beat you at beat picking too. And then and then we played Beat Saber and I beat you at that as well.
>> Dude, you just spazzed out. You can't even track anymore. I slapped you down.
>> He can't even like laugh at the joke or take himself anything less than >> I mentally just just decapitated you.
>> Oh gosh. Got to hold myself back.
>> You're like a chicken when it head came off. Chicken's head came off. out.
>> It's running in circles, >> banging into the walls. That's what you're doing.
>> Chill out. Take a deep breath.
>> Don't tell dad what to do. Okay.
>> Wow. That [ __ ] was not rhetorical.
You'd think that. You'd think that he'd stop humiliating himself at some point.
I don't understand um why you're, you know, a far-left vegan, you know, atheist.
>> It's true. All those things are true.
Like obviously true.
>> You're a far-left vegan, okay?
>> Then you're far wrong >> that wants less harm in the world and you're and you're arguing, okay, within a relationship. I'm not a consequence >> within a within within a group of people that are partaking in, you know, affairs with one another that is bringing more harm to themselves and society.
>> What's the harm? Wait, what's the harm to the self?
>> Uh STI.
>> Oh, sure. But what if they use a condom?
What's the harm to the self there?
>> Uh there you can still attract. Um it was still if everyone used condoms, uh gay people would still attract because it's not 100%.
>> No, no, I know. But like what if it's like a monogous relationship and everyone uses >> a win again. I win again on every aspect. I win.
>> Yeah. Just because I agree with you on one thing doesn't mean that your conclusion follows. So for example, you could say the sky or the sky is blue.
And if the sky is blue, then God exists.
And the fact that I agree with you that the sky is blue wouldn't then follow that God exists. If you're putting forward the premise that if the sky is blue, then God exists. That's trivial.
Just because I agree with you on one thing, I can contest that your conclusion actually follows. This is unfortunately like trivial.
If I if I had less alcohol in my in my uh system, I'd be able to uh track the point that we were just talking about.
Uh what were we just talking about?
>> We were talking about we're both in the ring and your trainer is the driver of the short bus and mine is Truth. Who do you think's going to win the fight, >> bro? Me as [ __ ] He's going to be in there. What did you say? The driver of the short bus.
>> Yeah.
>> I bet I bet he's so encouraging. Like the way that he spends his entire life with like disabled people. I bet he's probably like a really nice encouraging guy. Whereas yours is an abstract concept. You should have picked a better trainer. I'm going to beat the [ __ ] out of you. I'm going to whail on you.
>> He's not a guy. Why' you say he's a guy?
Cuz Oh, you're misogynistic. I thought it was a woman.
>> I apologize. Women can't drive.
>> My My thought of the typical bus driver is a man. I'm sorry.
I fully disavow. Did >> you hear that, ladies? I >> I do have like the image of like the dude in like the [ __ ] like blue suit with like the cap on it.
>> Freaking misogyny. Finally.
>> It was It was very misogynistic. I'll go I'll go on my apology tour soon.
>> Wait, let me guess, too. It's It's definitely not going to be an Asian woman as well because you don't think Asian people can drive as well.
>> What the [ __ ] >> You're so racist, bro. No, it would be a it would be a a grungly looking white guy like you.
>> Unbelievable, man. I thought it would be a woman that protect children because women, you know, are grungly looking supportive of me in the way that he's very supportive of all the children that he drives to school every day.
>> Wow. This guy doesn't want to, you know, he wants to bring more harm to children.
That's That's weird.
>> What? Anyway, yeah.
>> Sorry. Wait, what?
that I I want to bring more harm to children.
>> Yeah. Who harms >> Wait, sorry, wait, wait, wait. What's one position that I hold that would entail harm to children?
>> You just said that that all male all drivers of buses should >> No, that this specific one male who drives the bus would be very supportive.
>> Why?
>> That's the image that I have in my head.
It's like some grungy looking white >> because it was a because it was a trans.
>> Well, if it was a trans woman that would just be a woman. You're confused. In fact, concussed even. I' I've thrown out like these rhetorical flashbangs and you don't even know where you are anymore.
You've gotten spawn killed more times than I can even have more spawn kills under under your your KDA uh than I have spawn in my testicles.
>> Ian, I will concede to that. I think you actually gave me the one two knockout punch.
>> I agree. I did. I hit you with the >> Yeah. So you actually So you're going to So please tell me this. I I can't figure this out. So you're telling me that that women can have male genitalia?
>> Yeah, I do think that >> that's true on your view, too, by the way. I don't know if you're aware of that.
>> Oh, sorry. Wait, let's throw it back to you.
>> No, I'm not going to give you >> He can't even He literally can't even argue against the point. Spawn killed again. That's another death onto Le's Liam's kill death assist count. Got Spawn killed instantly. Now he's begging for chat, but he he doesn't realize that all chat's going to give him is more rhetorical than cocky shots, you know, straight into the face that they've been giving him this entire debate.
>> Women can have male genitalia.
>> That's true on your view as well, by the way.
>> You're telling me what my view is?
>> Yes. Under your view, you would affirm that there are some females who nevertheless have male genitalia because there are certain medical conditions that lead to that. You're an idiot.
>> Are we talk? Do we do we um >> do we do we do we do we are you ever stop choking at my rhetorical dick.
>> Is the world ran by the minority or the majority?
>> I don't know what you mean when you say is the world ran by >> I don't know what you mean.
>> Your claims are unspecific. You need to clarify them.
>> And I'm as dumb as a rock.
>> That's more IQ test.
>> Yeah, go for it.
>> Why don't we take an IQ test?
>> Yeah. Wait, let's get the men's in Norway.
>> I don't want to talk to the the most violent, you know.
>> Wait, wait, Leo. actually proved you wrong with the >> No, you didn't.
>> Okay, bud.
>> No, you didn't.
>> I'm actually the least violent. Thank you very much.
>> Yo, Liam, uh, let's do the the Mensa Norway IQ test.
>> No thanks.
>> Oh, no. Sorry, Liam. If you if you don't take it, you're just going to get a bad score.
>> Don't run. Don't run, Liam. Come on. You said you said that you're the highest IQ here that uh, you know, you dog walk in in every conversation. So, just take just take the the the test. It's super easy, right?
>> Does IQ equate uh common sense?
>> It equates roughly to intelligence. All right, let's start. All right, go for it. Let me Oh, sorry. Let me help you out.
>> Okay, which one?
>> Which one? What?
>> Oh, sorry. Let me um Yeah, which which one completes it? I need to share Let me share the screen.
sharing the screen. Which one?
>> Which one completes at F.
>> F.
Okay. For this one, which one?
>> There's no way, bro.
>> Uh, which one completes it?
>> Yeah.
>> Um, the question I don't know, D.
>> I should have drinken more alcohol, frankly.
>> Dude, I don't want to do this. This is dumb. Okay, >> wait. Sorry. Don't run. Which one?
>> No, dude. This is not What is this?
>> Which one? Which one? There's no need to pre-co.
>> I'm not even into this right now, bro.
>> Do you want me to help you out with this one? I can I can totally give you the answer for this one. The answer to this one's F is what I would presume.
>> Let's stick it together.
>> No thanks. I'm good.
>> Okay. Wait. Let's I'll mark F for this one. What's What's going to be four?
Now, if you look to the top row, they're all the same orientation. If you look to the second row, they're all the same orientation. And if you look to the bottom row, they're all the same orientation. So, probably it's going to be one of the ones that's straight up and down. On that basis, you can probably deduce that it's B or F.
>> Which one between B and F?
>> I thought it would have been U D myself.
>> Okay.
>> Are are you trying? Wait, are are you trolling?
>> I'm 100% trolling.
>> Yeah. Well, unfortunately, you still are going to get the IQ. So, uh you got to got to keep it up, Liam. Otherwise, you know, people are going to just remember this and remember what IQ you got.
This is not an accurate IQ test. Dude, this is not >> You answered the first couple of questions and then you realize that you're going to look really bad if it comes out that your IQ is like 85. So, >> dude, my IQ, listen to me. This would be actually before we finish this. If my IQ was zero, >> just the just the question five, Leah, there's no need to so terrible on you that you were actually debating with someone like me for this long.
>> There's no need to pre-cope. There's no need to crash out.
>> I'm not precoping. This is this is a reflection of who you are.
>> Who do you think is going to be the next who you are, bro?
>> I can help you out with this one if you'd like. Like, I can be there. I can assist you in picking the right answer.
So you'll notice like the top row, the top row goes from this to this to this.
It moves by 45 degrees each time. The next row down goes from this to this to this moves by 45 degrees. So we should be expecting that this one, the final one, whatever it is, it's going to be like this. Now, additionally, the arrows at the same place each time. So what's going to be the location of the arrow at the bottom row? Except it's going to be like this. Which one? What's it going to be?
You got this, Liam.
You got this, Pearl.
>> Let's go with um F.
>> With F. Sure. Yeah, good answer.
>> Those Waterloos are really helping you.
>> What are we playing Tetris now or something? What is this?
>> Yeah. God, you tell the IQ. You tell Mensa Norway.
>> Dude, I'm so bored right now. Honestly, I don't care. intelligence bores you, Liam, because you can't keep in the same conversation. In my day, whenever I'm not done speaking, thanks.
So, Liam, whenever uh like Ian explained why incest would be wrong, you then pivoted to like rhetoric instead of actually addressing the argument. So, I'm sure intelligence feels boring when you don't have a rebuttal, just like you can't answer these [ __ ] questions.
>> He didn't answer the question. Now, AG, what he did was he >> he talked in circles. Yeah, you talked in circles that no one could understand.
>> It's because it destroys the familiar relation.
>> Nothing was No, bro. Okay. Because that wouldn't make sense.
>> Yeah, bro. It destroys the familiar relation.
>> And I debunked that argument.
>> Liam, you're you're on exercise number six. Don't give up on question number six.
>> You'll get less than 100 IQ points.
Liam, if you question, >> do you want to help on this one, too?
>> Dude, I'm getting bored. Okay.
>> I I know you're getting bored.
I know you probably often get bored by question number four on all the tests that you took, which is why you didn't get into a very good school. Um, you know, your your academic career probably didn't go very good.
>> How many more puzzles?
>> There are 29. 29 more.
>> Okay, let's just go through this. I'll say um >> let's go with E.
>> E.
>> Okay, let's go with um let's go with B.
>> B. Okay, let's go with C.
>> C. Let's go with D. D.
Okay. Let's go with um let's go with A.
>> A.
>> Let's go with um C.
>> C.
>> Let's go with um D.
>> D.
>> Let's go with A.
>> A. Bold.
Let's go with um C.
>> Let's go with uh no. What are we doing here? Let's go with D.
>> D.
Let's go with Let's go with C.
>> C.
Let's go with um C again.
>> C again.
>> Let's go with F.
>> F.
>> I wouldn't have gone with F. Forget that.
>> Wait, wait. We can go back.
>> No, it's forget. I don't care.
>> Okay.
>> I'm obviously I'm obviously trolling.
>> Yeah. Whatever helps you cope with the fact that it's going to be well below 100.
Um, let's go with on this one.
Let's go with A.
>> A.
>> Maybe not A. Um, >> we can go back.
>> Let's go with C.
>> C.
>> 14 more.
>> Let's go with E.
>> E.
Let's go with um C.
C.
Um let's go with uh C again. See again.
>> Um A >> A F >> F.
>> Um God, this is so dumb. Uh D >> D. Well, there's less than 10 questions.
>> Um E >> E Let's go with C.
B.
>> Um F.
Uh D >> A >> A >> C See?
>> I don't know, dude. D >> D. Last one.
>> Um, let's go with F.
>> F.
your score sorry let's let's your score is below 100 we will be expanding the measurable range of this test as soon as we have gathered more data in some cases this can be caused by plugins or other browser specific settings that prevent a correct scoring Liam what did that accomplish >> Liam >> you need to you need to understand.
>> You're like three standard deviations below the mean. Like you should probably shut I think the frankly I think like the harm reducing thing I think the utilitarian thing for you to do is to shut the [ __ ] up for the rest of your life. Frankly, Liam, like I I actually think that when you speak, you make the people around you like actively stupider. I think that you might be the Benjamin Button of IQ. That you started off, you were born, you had 160 IQ, and you've been hemorrhaging IQ ever since.
You've been losing [ __ ] one nay two IQ points a year. You're on track for zero zero IQ. Liam average 100. Liam, >> what is he? What does he >> average is 100 IQ?
>> Okay, so throwing a a throwing a IQ test at someone.
>> It's an IQ test. Leon, this is why you scored so low.
>> Oh my god, dude. Let me finish speaking.
Is this a grammar test as well over here? What is this? I I just think that it might all be connected.
>> If I've encapsulated an audience and your attention, built an audience off of the things that are coming out of my mouth and you're calling me stupid for entertaining you over here.
>> That's called brilliant Ian.
>> So did Trisha.
>> You don't know what that cultivated an audience too and she's like I have more clearly like popularity on Tik Tok than you will ever have in your life. That's like obviously false >> in your youthful in your youthful little existence. You never have the popularity dude's profile.
>> So you can project all you want.
>> I think I have like >> project like 130k. I don't know how many I have.
>> Your breast knows [ __ ] >> You're not even relevant.
>> He has 2,000. Okay.
>> This is MY MAIN ACCOUNT. This isn't even my >> Yeah. What's your main account? What's which account has the most?
the one that the tick tock uh perma band.
>> Yeah.
>> What is your uh it would be Liam without uh number one? Just >> Oh, Liam. Did you Did you forget that like you harassed Dean and Parker so much and that's how you gained a following in the first place was because you harassed you were up up there flirting with both of them for the last like four years of their career which is how you got any of the followers that you did. Why? Why do you always have to go to men flirting with men? Some type of a gay lifestyle. Does that just help you cope a is that what that is?
>> It's just what you were doing.
>> What I was doing?
>> I was I was debating politics with with young with young men.
>> Wait a minute. I wasn't I was there for the right reasons, madam. I was there to talk about people about politics >> and and social issues, okay, in our society. And these guys are up there for money and trolling. Okay.
>> Yeah. Unlike you, you know, you're in there with a good heart, a good spirit, up there to talk about the issues, the things that really matter. Dean and Parker, >> they don't know in this conversation.
>> You on the other hand, Leo number one, >> gosh, what what have I said that was hateful or what did I say talking about harm in society? I was like, okay, if it brings more harm, I don't think it's a good thing. talking about like same sex accue of being hateful, but I mean an example of something that's hateful. You could say, for example, that when you claim that trans women are men, that's an example of a hateful thing.
>> No, it's not.
>> Yeah, it is.
>> It's it's it's a fact.
>> Okay. Um, what do you take a man to be?
>> Um, spawn.
>> I think that >> spawn killed.
>> A man to me is um >> spawned on the landmine.
Can I speak?
>> I don't know. Can you? Doesn't seem like it.
>> You would have to be speaking about gender and sex and how they're different. I would have I would say that that they align. Gender and sex are synonymous. You think that they're not.
Okay.
>> Okay. But what is a man?
>> A man is in three words or less. Can we do that? Can you tell?
>> I want to do a definition need to be three words.
>> Three words or less. like turbo stupid >> and you're going to beat me.
>> I don't think definitions need to be three words or less.
>> Man is a human >> is is is a man a human?
>> Um I actually don't think so. So for example, I think we'd probably consider Superman to be a man or like Luke Skywalker. We'd probably consider Luke Skywalker to be a man or I don't know the [ __ ] or even for example like a Neanderthal.
I think if there was a Neanderthal as a man, a human being, >> we would probably consider like a Neanderthal to be a human or to not be a human, but to be a man. If we had like a male Neanderthal, I think we'd probably consider this male Neanderthal to be a man, even though it's not technically a human.
>> E, I didn't want the W this easy. But I got it again, man. This is >> unfortunately I think you're a bit confused.
>> I mean self-proclaimed. I'm going to have to be a self-proclaimed.
>> He's literally not going to answer the objection, by the way.
The objection to foolishness. Yeah, I object to foolishness. Can you summarize? Whoa, whoa, sorry. Wait, could you summarize my argument?
>> Yeah, Harry Potter. Harry Potter is a fictional character.
>> Okay, >> we're talking about reality right now.
>> Wait, would it be gay for me to jerk off to Harry Potter?
>> Like the adult version? Of course.
>> Are you Are you >> Are you an adult, Ian?
>> Well, I'm asking you. Would that be gay for me to jerk off to the adult version of Harry Potter? Are you an adult, Ian?
>> I'm an adult. Yeah.
>> Are you a Are you a human being?
>> [ __ ] spawn killed again, dude.
Literally folded into >> Are you a human being?
>> Yeah, I'm a human being.
>> You're an adult and a human?
>> Yes.
Would it be Would it be gay for me to jerk off to the thought of like Superman? Is that gay?
It's yes or a no. Because to me, the answer is pretty obvious. You know, if I was assigned male at birth and I'm [ __ ] stroking my goddamn hog to the thought of Superman, that's that's pretty gay. That's a pretty gay thing to do. Pretty good indication that I'm gay or like by at least.
>> I think that's just part of your perversion.
>> You don't You don't think You think that it's part of my perversion to think that it's gay to jerk off to Superman?
I think that I young >> it's comments like this that lead you to getting less than 100 on a Q test.
>> So you're telling me right now that um a human adult female could not dress up as Superman?
>> A human adult female can. Gender bends exist in cosplay.
>> Okay. So, so you could be attracted to a woman dressing up as someone as being that thing obviously.
>> That's what being that's what being transgender is.
>> Well, what's the argument for that?
>> Um, >> that's also just not true. For example, if you want an example of an actual man that dresses up as a woman, you can take like drag queens for example. Drag queens are are men and they dress up as women >> for for like a drag. But everyone would acknowledge like, well, that's a man.
The difference between >> What's the difference?
>> The difference is gender identity.
That's a great question.
>> The the difference is gender identity.
>> Yes. Yeah.
>> Wait, sorry, but you dodged my question earlier. Is it gay? Would it be gay for me to jerk off?
>> Just shut the hell up and let me have more than no need to get emotional.
Dude, >> I'm not going to crash out. You're just being >> You're already crashing out.
You're being very very inappropriate and creepy. You're not tracking.
>> You said that you were blowing my back out earlier.
>> No, I only reason I said that.
>> That sounds a little gay, bud.
>> No, I said no.
>> Play back the clip. It's >> of me saying of you saying that you blew my back out. I could play back the clip.
>> I want you to stealing rhetoric, Rock, [ __ ] >> I I I want you to listen to why I said that. I said, "The reason I'm going to say this is because you taught me to say >> and I was jerking off to Superman for scientific research."
>> See what you're teaching your audience >> how to jerk off to Superman.
>> I mean, I mean, and in retrospect, I mean, you've got RC as your highest, you know, uh, gifter here and RC is a white supremacist [ __ ] Christian nationalist, Liam. So, I don't think anybody really cares.
>> Uh, RC is the goat. Okay. Yikes. Supporting white supremacy and Christian nationalism.
>> How does he support white supremacy and Okay. Christian national. He wants the world to be more Christian. Yeah, I agree with that. Cool. I'm a Christian nationalist as well. Let's talk about um the white YT supremacies though. I want to understand that.
>> Yeah, he has all the same talking points. But uh >> explain that. No, no, no. Go ahead.
>> Oh, yeah. I gave you an example. I gave you a concrete example. Like so for example, >> don't talk about it.
like the colonial genocides were justified.
>> Stop talking about him. Bring him up here. Unless you're scared of him.
>> Okay.
>> I mean, nobody's scared of RC. You don't platform him because he's a piece of [ __ ] >> Well, you guys are two P's in a pod, though.
Both can't track. You both don't have any arguments. Um, and Ian's Ian slammed you so hard so many times that uh you both don't even remember. You keep coming back every single time.
I've only spoken to Ian one time. This is my second time.
>> It's twice, but I probably [ __ ] you so hard that I gave you a concussion.
That's my bad, G.
>> So, like I said, >> this is crazy, man. How all these gay innuendos that you keep throwing out.
This is nuts.
>> You know what else is nuts? What I've stuck inside of you multiple times.
up top.
>> Did your mother uh did she did she was she okay with you speaking like this?
>> Uh I don't know. I've never asked her.
She watches my stream from time to time.
>> Do you still check in with your mom every day to see if your activities are acceptable to her?
>> I probably don't check in with my mom enough. I should. That reminds me.
Thanks for bringing it up.
>> I should. Yeah, I do love my mom.
>> Me, too. Gosh, just two guys who love their mom.
Yeah, I don't disrespect my mom though, like you do. But yeah, back to >> You think I disrespected my mom? How have I disrespected my mom?
>> Back to the claim that RC is a YT supremacist.
>> Yeah, he thinks that the colonial genocides are justified.
>> You and him had that debate.
>> Yeah, you said that in my Discord.
That's kind of I think if I'm not mistaken, I know Lucy was there. I think that's why he got banned.
There was a time where he kind of like chilled out in my Discord and it was like it was fine. You know, we had productive dialogues, but no, he Oh, yeah. It's Lizzy.
>> Yeah. What's up, >> RC? The last time he was there, I was the one who got to ban him.
>> He He told me I deserved to be raped.
And he told me, a Native American woman, that my people deserved the genocide and they deserved to die cuz they couldn't protect themselves.
>> That's [ __ ] disgusting.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> Pretty crazy.
>> And do you remember do you remember that VC that we had with him that one time?
>> Yeah.
>> Um he was playing chess like he apologized to everybody on team for being a dick and he got to me and he was like, >> "No, you're a [ __ ] You get under my skin. I don't like you."
>> I do remember this. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I don't I don't think that um >> he would never So you're native are you native? Is that what you're saying?
Native American or what?
>> Yeah.
>> So yeah, I I think that the colonization that happened I have no problem with it.
I think that it was great. I think that it built the Americans.
>> You think the genocide was good? You think the fact that they like genocided they [ __ ] slaughtered like >> am I here >> tons of people? What the >> No, I think that I know that Native Americans they gen They genocide here. Okay. So, I don't know what you're talking about.
>> Do you know what the divine genocide?
>> This is kind of crazy.
>> It's trying to uh wipe out an entire entire race. Yeah. So, no, that never happened. Um because there is no Indian tribe that was completely wiped off the face of >> Okay. Actually, that's false. We had over a thousand indigenous American tribe. Call them, don't call them Indian. We're not Indian.
There were over a thousand tribes. Now there's like a hundred. The rest were all wiped out from colonization.
90% of our indigenous people from the time that they came to now were wiped out.
>> Well, they also were paid for, you know, their land. They were given >> They're not paid for their land.
>> Yeah, they were. They were given >> No, they're not.
>> They own most of the casinos in the United States, don't they? That is okay.
Most tribes don't even have a casino.
>> These these these these casinos that are sitting on uh native native American land were paid for by the government by the United States. You know that, right?
I just said, wait, sorry. I just did a quick Google. Uh were indigenous people paid for their land? Indigenous people were rarely paid for their land if they were paid at all.
So that's just false. So we indigenous people were given land as compensation for what had happened. And then other presidents have reduced the land.
They've taken the land.
>> We don't get paid in compensation.
That's not a thing. And if it is, it's super rare and it's not much.
>> Yeah. One of one of my best friends lives on um >> Don't say it. Please don't [ __ ] say it.
>> Say what?
He lives up in Washington. I forget what um what tribe it is up there, but it borders uh what is your deal right now, bro? You spazzing out or something?
>> No, we just think it's funny as [ __ ] that a white dude like you is out here tokenizing people while being racist.
>> I have friends who are Native American while you don't know [ __ ] about Native American history.
I know that we I know that um we built the Americas, you know, and um I I know that um >> your Americas were built off of Native Americans.
>> I know that Native America I know that Native Americans were part of that and we have one of we have the best >> Well, we most powerful society on planet Earth where everyone wants to immigrate.
>> Everybody thinks that we're a [ __ ] joke, dude.
>> Nobody is trying to immigrate.
>> Whoa. Sorry. Wait. Do you think that genocide is bad?
Do I think that genocide is bad? Um, not not no not completely.
>> Jesus [ __ ] Christ, dude. Why would I take ethical advice from you on anything then?
>> Why would I Why would I ever want your ethical system? Your ethical system is clearly [ __ ] crazy.
>> If I was to advocate for genocide all over the Nazis, would that be a bad thing?
>> I don't think that that would be a genocide because it wouldn't be based on like a racial identity.
Also, to be clear, I don't think every single member of the Nazi party deserves the death penalty. I think definitely, for sure, some of them do. I don't think all of them do.
>> Which ones did not?
>> So, okay. Um, for example, if you did not take actions that like directly like you were not like the executioner, um, I think probably you should get like life in jail. I don't know if you should get the death penalty if you did not personally kill someone >> or like order the killing of someone.
>> So you so you um went to um a driveby pew pewing and you were the one that drove the vehicle. You're the one that plotted this whole thing with all of your friends.
>> Oh and they >> if you plotted it then you should get the death penalty.
>> But if you were just a driver, I think life in jail is fine. So, you should have taxpayers uh pay for your TV and you're exercising and you're working and you're working out to taxpayers to do the death penalty than it does to just keep people in jail, right?
>> It's literally more expensive to >> Why is that? Because of a broken appeals process. He wants fewer appeals. He thinks people on death row should get fewer appeals. He wants to execute more innocent people.
>> Oh, everyone that's been criminally charged is innocent.
>> I didn't say that. 12% >> except for Donald Trump, right? Except for Trump, right?
>> He's guilty. He was found guilty, civily liable of >> He's guilty. But >> wait, sorry. Why did the uh why did the court find him civily liable?
>> If Donald Trump was black, he would be innocent on all charges, right?
>> No.
>> No.
>> Nope.
>> Would it be different if his skin was was black, though?
>> Why would it not? because the jury still finds him guilty on the basis of the evidence that you know if the reason why they find him guilty is because of the evidence then yeah it's still the same thing.
>> So there's some horrendous black individuals that are in prison that um that probably should be on on Dro.
>> What are you asking? Are there people in prison who should be on death row?
Is there black individuals who have done terrible things that should be on DO is what I'm asking?
>> Possibly.
>> Possibly.
>> Yeah. There's like probably some people who are black. You think OJ was one of those same way that they were You think OJ Simpson was >> honestly maybe that might be a good example of a person in the same way that there are white people who have committed horrific crime to be on death row. It's almost like we can't cherryick race.
>> Which is why it's weird that you're cherrypicking. Yeah. It's It's weird that you brought up race. Yeah, that's why, you know, we can't cherrypick >> and you're the one that brought that up.
>> It's almost like you got backhanded again, huh?
>> You think You think getting [ __ ] spawn killed on another topic is another win for you? Is that Is that a win in your book? You I don't know if you remember this, but the way the conversation went is you said, "If Donald Trump were black, then he would have been found innocent or you would think that he's innocent." Um, and I said, "No, I wouldn't." So, you were the one that brought it to race. I don't know if you remember that. You got beat the [ __ ] down on another point, which is just a running theme in your life.
>> Are you a self-proclaimed Victor?
>> Yeah. Is that what your mommy taught you?
>> Yeah, I won. Is that what your mommy said [ __ ] out of you? Yeah.
>> I I have enough awareness of of my debate performance to know that you got like genuinely eviscerated on like every single topic that we debated. Like we might actually be sitting at like 16.
>> No one captures your attention the way that I do, Snowflake. Okay.
>> And you know what? I I learned this from, you know, one of my best friends, Deathless Light. You know, I just headbutted your [ __ ] teeth down your throat. How does it feel to lose? You lost. How does it feel to lose?
>> Is that why your forehead looks the way that it does? Because your headbutt.
>> It's because of all my [ __ ] knowledge, dude. It's why my forehead is so massive. You know, my head is massive the the same way that your wife gives me massive head >> after I'm done [ __ ] you.
>> Oh my gosh, bro. You're so >> Now he's gonna Now he's going to pearl clutch. You know, he wants to cry bully.
You know, he wants to bully, but when he gets bullied back, when somebody comes along who's a better bully than he is, that he wants to cry. You know, he wants to bully until he gets bullied and then he doesn't want bullies to exist anymore.
>> Have you been bullied today, Ian, by me?
I think you've tried to, but it hasn't gone well for you.
>> I've been bullying you. Is that what's >> I think you've tried to. I think that that was your intention. No.
>> And you got beat the [ __ ] down every single time that you tried it. Every single person saw it. It's all on recording. In fact, >> now you're just crying. Now you're just crying up here.
>> You think between the two of us, you're literally pearl clutching. You after you tried to do the [ __ ] that you've done throughout the last hour, you can't now back up to try to be like, you've been rolling around in the mud the entire time with me. You can't now act like your hands are clean.
>> Ian, listen. Nobody thinks you're the bully on the playground again.
>> Oh yeah, bro. You think that I'm the bully and I bet your wife probably thinks I'm the bully, too.
>> I'm glad that you're entertained, bro.
But listen, I'm bored. I'm bored.
>> Yeah, he's just above all of this.
>> I am bored. If you're bored, I'm I'm totally fine with
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