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>> What's up, everybody? What's up? Welcome to the show. Glad to be here.
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>> Um, so today we have some uh we're going to the show is going to be tight today.
We always try to keep the show to an hour, but it never really happens. But tonight we're going to keep it tight.
We're going to keep it to an hour. Um, so the topics we going to discuss tonight are uh black faces and white spaces, which means should what should we tell our our black friends, black children, family members? If you're in a space where you're the minority and it's majority white, what do you do? How do you carry yourself? Is there certain way? There's certain rules, certain things to do, certain things to say, certain places you should not go, certain places you should go. Obviously, something needs to be done because seems like whenever we're in a space where we are the only ones, something always happens. We don't always hear about it on the news because I've had several situations in my life where I was the only black person and some things happened that I thought white people would have my back and they did not.
Absolutely did not. Um, so we have to carry oursel and we have to be fully aware that this is a thing.
Kevin and I have white friends and we talk about it all the time, but are they really our friends? You know, friend, that word friend can be debatable.
Um, also, uh, the immigrant killings, uh, there were three this week, I think, and there was one in Texas, then, uh, that the other was in Florida, I think, with a guy was running from ICE and got hit by a 18, >> and then another guy got shot in Maine.
And uh third topic is Jay-Z. They're calling him [ __ ] Jay-Z. [ __ ] Jay because he said some things about calling uh Kaepernick and um he said about, you know, him um partnering with Target. A lot of people are not happy with Jay-Z. Um some of his loyal fans are not happy with him. And we're also going to touch on that. And uh if you want to join in, I'll put the uh link in the chat. And uh Tiffany's probably gonna leave.
I don't know why. I don't know why, Tiff. I s I've sat here Sunday after Sunday and listen to people from the Caribbean be dragged and I sat here and I >> Are you serious? Nobody never dragged the Caribbean. The drag Caribbeans be dragging us. What are you talking about?
We don't drag the Caribbean. We just keeping it real. did not I did not run.
I did not run away. I uh I sat here. So, you can sit through the Jay-Z. You know, it's not that ser Jay-Z. I mean, it's Jay-Z. He's just another guy, right?
He's just another guy, entertainer, billionaire entertainer. He don't give a [ __ ] about me. You are Kev. So, you know, so and he's doing some things right now and the black community is not happy. And uh so >> everybody know everybody knows Carl and Tip. I'm the biggest Michael Jackson fan on the planet, right? But Michael Jackson gets criticized for some of his things he's done like, you know, adopting the white kids and things like that and not adopting, you know, uh, African-American kids, you know. Uh, so he's been criticized and I've stood by and and say, "Hey, yeah, y'all can get on him about that. I can't even defend that move. I don't know why Michael did what he did. He's an the best entertainer this world ever seen." But I disagree with that, you know. And uh >> we don't talk bad about Michael. We don't talk about Michael. I would we would never. I think that us as black people, that's our problem. We're always talking down on our own people. And you look at the Jews, you look at the Asian, you look at them. They don't do that.
They don't make this publicly to disrespect people that is of the same hue. We might not agree with everything that they do, but I would never ever.
And that's something that I would say about shout out to Memphis Bleak. They actually tried to get him to talk bad about Dame Dash. He said, "Dame Dash can talk bad about us all day." He said, "But I would never disrespect that man."
You understand what I'm saying? Because I learned a lot from him and we went we did a lot together. He said, "But I would never disrespect him the way that he's going in on day." So I respect that certain stuff you just leave alone and whatever's done in the dark will come to the light. Well, to your point, Tiffany, and I don't know if we're starting off the show on this, but to your point, >> uh Jay-Z should have took his own advice or advice you just gave us because >> he took five sold out nights at uh Yankee Stadium.
>> It wasn't five, it was three.
>> Well, three soldout nights as at Yankee Stadium. he took every night on that stage uh to not only go through his catalog of amazing music or whatever, but he also uh took the mic and took the opportunity to take jabs at other black men, >> including he did a freebody, >> including one black man who, as far as I'm concerned, is uh like a black panther. I mean, and his brother uh has put his ass on the line over and over again uh for for black people, you know. Uh he only had close to the money Jay-Z has, but uh Nolan's uh uh autopsy was paid for uh by him, not Jay-Z. And this guy put his money where his mouth is is what I'm saying.
>> We honor and respect that. We honor and respect that.
>> Well, I wish Jay-Z would honor and respect him because you can't take shots at a guy that is beloved in the black community. And Jay-Z is beloved in the black community. He wouldn't be a billionaire if it wasn't cuz uh black people made him a billionaire. We're the ones who bought the records and the CDs and and supported his career. So uh not Target, for example. Target didn't make Jay-Z a billionaire. Uh millions of black fans, millions of black fans who couldn't even afford a ticket uh to Yankee Stadium is why he was at Yankee Stadium. He didn't even had a decency.
He's a billionaire. His wife's a billionaire. and two married billionaires didn't even have the sense to lower the ticket prices. So his real fans can get in and see the damn show cuz most of the people that that that want to go to that concert couldn't get there because >> almost all his fans that went there and they sacrificed the tickets wasn't that much either.
>> All right, we're gonna do the music and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna start off with the Jay-Z. Get it out the way because >> Yeah, get out the way. Then we move on to bring the pastures. All right.
>> Absolutely.
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Jay-Z disses Kaepernick and Target boycotters during a concert. I told y'all this would happen. Here it is.
Boy, you posting on Instagram. That's better. Boy stop. Got no Google on YouTube. You picking and choosing a politic as usual.
>> They did the narrator. It's embarrassing. They running up characters. Had to bring back cap again.
Buddy took a check. I ain't even mad, man. And the longer that check sign, I'm the one they can't control.
Y'all better be glad to. I'm the one they can't control. You better be glad.
Have to build you back in the community.
That's just good laughing. I'm listening to the activist. They tighten our laughing.
>> Man, whatever. U put it up for a mass.
Uh so let me say this. on stage at your own concert to diss the man. The man who put his whole career on the line, something you would never do.
A man who took a knee when he could have simply said nothing.
He put everything on the line. And when he was challenged by the powers that be, he did not make fun of anybody. He brought attention back to the matter at hand.
Jay-Z, do you remember why Kaepernick took a knee, brother?
A lot of people forgot it was to bring awareness to unarmed black men and black women, brown men and brown women being killed by the police.
That was the actual issue. It wasn't about some of these other things that we talk about uh that need need to be done.
Yes, but it wasn't about that. It wasn't about bringing awareness to literacy in urban communities. It wasn't about that.
Those are good things, but it wasn't about that. It was about It was about violence from the police against black and brown folk. That's what he took a knee for.
>> There's more. Tik Tocker responded to it. Here it is.
>> A billionaire told you he undercut your boycott for a check and you all clap. and then chose our high y'all still shop at Amazon knowing that his wife co-chair the Met Galla with Amazon and you all cloud >> crossing the picketing line and then blaming your critics for using Instagram, YouTube, Tik Tok to tell our story as if there's other modes of communication to get to the masses quickly. AS IF WE DON'T WANT an alternative. I mean, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT YOU BACK BLACKOWNED FAN BASE OR PALESTINIAN OWNED UPSCROLL. SO, YOU'RE ARGUING THAT THE MASTER'S TOOLS will never dismantle the master's HOUSE AND THAT ACTIVISM ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS JUST POLITICKING AS USUAL. But you just >> so >> so so Jaboo Jay-Z was performing last night at his 30th anniversary of reasonable doubt and decided to stop and address Twitter activists and throw shots at Colin Kaepernick.
>> Sold out. Yeah, I did sell out three nights. I sold Yankee Stadium the hell out.
>> I'm a target. You ain't. Don't miss that target. No exclusive. They only doing what Apple and Walmart.
You shopping at Amazon or you boycotting. You posting on Instagram that's meta boy. Stop it. Y know Google owns YouTube. You picking and choosing a politic.
>> I find it quite interesting that someone who is a billionaire would feel the need to throw shots at the average consu the person living paycheck to paycheck and comparing a corporate partnership with Target to everyday people ordering something off of Amazon. And then he proceeds to punch down on Colin Kaepernick. You know, the same Colin Kaepernick that just paid for Nolan Wells's family to get an independent autopsy on their son.
>> They dig deep. But now it is. It's embarrassing. They run out of characters. Had to bring back up Cap again.
Buddy took a check. I ain't even mad at them. But along with that check, got to sign our disparagement. I'm the one they can't control.
>> Y'all better be glad.
Kaepernick taking a legal sentiment will never change the fact that Kaepernick lost his career due to taking a stance on behalf of black people, black lives, and the untimely murders of black people. Meanwhile, [ __ ] Jay did an NFL partnership right after Kaepernick's protest, a target partnership during an organized boycott. And while it looks like Jay-Z was scanning social media for punchlines, I'm sure he saw someone somewhere write about the Montgomery bus boycott and how that didn't require everyone to withdraw from every single segregated institution before criticizing buses. The point was to concentrate pressure on a specific target. But hey, what do I know? I'm just merely an online activist running out of characters. But I'd rather that than be seated with these characters.
>> If they want to do something about what they saw as injustice, they could do it.
They would tell people all the time.
They give them money. They keep them employed. They get them elected. They don't need Jay-Z to have a conversation about social justice. But that's never been the conversation. What they want is silence. They want you quiet. They want you to be distracted. They want they bought Anybody can own an NFL team. If you have the money, anybody could buy an NFL team. Why him? It's a lot of billionaires. What they want? What does he have that other people have the billions of dollars necessary to buy a team? What does he have? Influence. What is influence for them? Silence. I want you to shut up and play. And I want the rest of the country to not be distracted, to keep doing what we do. We read a report earlier where it talked about the Super Bowl halftime was down significantly. And they believed in part because black people were not participating. That's what I need. You know why these owners are so good at this? Because they've been doing it forever, for decades. These are mostly 80 and 90 year old white men who've learned how to deal with black people for a long time. DL's whole point is that Jay is DL's whole point is that Jay is a tool for white corporations. He knows exactly what he's doing. He knows the damage it causes in the black community. He just doesn't care because at the end of the day, Jay-Z is a billionaire first and a black man second. And like every billionaire out there, the only thing he cares about is hoarding money and power. Now, I also want to remind you of this email from the Jeffree Files where Jay-Z's name popped up. And the fact that this email didn't get any coverage in mainstream media should tell you everything you need to know. So, this email dates back to 2014, and it's from Jess Staley, former CEO of Barclays and JP Morgan executive. Staley was writing to Jeffrey at the time when massive protests were raging in Brazil. These protests were mainly driven by anger over the high cost of hosting the 2014 FIFA World Cup and the 2016 Olympics at the expense of public services. So Jess Staley wrote to Jeffrey to tell him he doesn't have to worry that black people in the US will follow Brazil's example. Why? Because black protesters have been bought off by Jay-Z. Here's exactly what Staley wrote.
You want to know why we are not Sao Paulo? Watch the TV ads on the Super Bowl. It's all about hip blacks in hip cars with white women. The group that should be in the streets has been bought off by Jay-Z. But not one single mainstream media outlet reported on this email. Think about what that means.
They'll write about all the salacious stuff from the files. Who flew on the planes? Who visited the island? Who did unspeakable things to victims? But an email that literally spells out how billionaires keep the masses pacified and stop us from protesting. Complete silence. This is why they want you to stay distracted. And this is why they need black billionaire entertainers like Jay-Z and his wife. But we're not done yet. I also want to show you what Van Lean just revealed about Rock Nation trying to smear Kaepernick's name. Van Lean used to be a senior producer at TMZ. And on a recent episode of the Higher Learning podcast, he revealed that Rock Nation was seeding negative stories about Kaepernick to justify Jay-Z's NFL deal and undermine Cap's movement.
>> I know for sure.
>> All right, so we're going to kick it off today talking about uh Jay-Z. My Here's my thing about Jay-Z. And not only Jay-Z, black celebrities in general. I think we as black people, we're trying to start a movement, right? So, we decided to boycott Target. we decided to um boycott the NFL. You know, whatever we do, it's because black people are being harmed. Something's being done to black people, and we need every single black person to join this movement. Some black people have big influence, some black people don't. If if G if uh Chrysler wanted to sell cars, they would not call me to advertise their cars.
They will call like a Jay-Z or some celebrity, Kevin Lee, a big celebrity, somebody that could sell cars now because they have influence. Jay-Z has huge influence and he could use that influence to help black people. He's using his influence to hurt black people. That is the problem people have with with uh with Jay-Z. It's nothing against him personally is that come on, you're black. You see what's happening to black people and you're doing nothing. You're doing nothing to help. You're doing everything to hurt. That's that's um that's my take on the whole Jay-Z thing.
And Kevin, I know Tiffany has a different point of view, but Kev, you can >> I agree with you, Carl. I agree with you, Carl. Um I just I just think, you know, that he has enough power and money right now to make a positive change. Um Tiffany can probably speak to this. Uh I can't off the top of my head the neighborhood that he came from uh uh forgot what the name of it is but um >> he came from best uh Marsy projects.
>> Thank you. Thank you. I couldn't think of that at the moment but yeah I was watching a uh Tik Tok uh influencer who was talking about that uh neighborhood that Jay-Z came from. And I don't know if it's true or not. Tiff, if you can speak on this when you when it's your turn. Uh you're saying that Jay-Z hasn't done much for that for that neighborhood either. Uh, so that where he came from and I just think when you have the money that him and the power that him and his wife have and I'm going to keep bringing up the wife because she's his partner and she's a billionaire on paper. She's a billionaire also. So I just think, you know, uh, you got to put some nice grocery you got to put a some grocery stores in your neighborhood, a Whole Foods or a Wegman's or or something, you know. You got to a brand new Price Chopper, anything. You got to put some some some you got to build up that neighborhood, man. If you got the the influence and the money to build that hood up, you got to build it up. You came from that hood. You know, the brother came from this from a bad area. He's not We went a silver spoon in his mouth. So, he should know better.
You know, he knows what he left behind.
He's worked hard to get to where he is.
He's very talented. He's amazing. He's got a lot of charisma. Uh uh Song Cry uh is one of my favorite songs. Uh period.
Uh Jaguar Jaguar Wright sings on that song. Um it's a beautiful song. It's an amazing song. Uh it's a rap ballot. Uh song cry. I love that song. I play it all the time. It's on my playlist when I'm traveling. I'm a fan. That's why I'm disappointed cuz I am a fan. I expect better from this brother to be this successful. If it was, and everybody know on this show to watch this show, I'm a huge Biggie fan. If Biggie was alive and it was Biggie or Tupac, I'd be calling their ass out too. Sometimes you got to separate the music, you know, uh, from the person, you know. Um, so, you know, I'm a fan of his music. You know, I'm happy for a success, you know. Um, if somebody put a gun in my head and tell me name a Beyonce song right now, I wouldn't know one, be honest with you.
Uh, I probably can go back to the days when she was with Destiny Child and name some songs, but I'm not really into her music right now, you know? I'm not a hater. just not my style, you know. But I'm happy for a success. I'm happy for his success. But you can't have all that success, all that power that these two individuals have and all that money they have and not make a difference in these in the neighborhoods that you come from.
And I know that Beyonce came from the hood, but Jay-Z definitely came from the hood. And he needs to give back. And and I saw something today real quickly. I saw on TikTok and I saw this gentleman, another influence. He was showing all those men marching on the National Mall a few weeks ago. Uh the white supremist group. It was like over about 500 of them marching on the National Mall on the 4th of July, right? And he said these people are organized.
They're organized.
Uh and there's that was just 500 on the mall. There's probably another five million of them somewhere, right?
They're organized. They're organizing.
They're training.
They're preparing.
uh they're saving their money. They're learning to shoot guns. They're taking martial arts classes up in these mountains, up in the woods. They're preparing for a race war. They're preparing and they're organized.
And the point he was making was we're not. He says all we do, he said some most guys sit around and smoke wood all day. I guess he's talking about marijuana, right? And he's like, you can't even drugg around the block. You know, these guys are training like military up in these woods up in West Virginia and Georgia and all these places. They training for our asses cuz they going to get in our ass. Most of us walk around here smoking weed, can't even run up a pair some steps without losing our breath. That's basically what he was saying. So, I'm all my point is is that these people are organizing. So when we have a Target boycott or or or any boycott, when our most one of our most popular successful entertainers this planet has ever seen partners with that people, that is is a tough pill to swallow. I don't care how much I love them. You know, I be in Michael Jackson's ass and I got about four or five Michael Jackson posters laying around his house on my wall right now. So, uh, I don't care who it is.
Prince, I don't care who you I'm in that ass. You know, Whitney Houston, I'm in that ass, you know. I don't care. You cannot do what he's doing. We need We need him to be Muhammad Ali right now.
We need him to speak out. Winnie Himna, he could have took that time that he jumped on Colin Kaepernick and and brought attention to all these hang-ins that uh uh there's been four, five, six, seven hangings of of of young black people, women, young black girls. He he has a daughter and she probably has security, but you know, you know, most people don't have security. You know, these young black girls out here, young black men out here, you know, being found hanging in trees and [ __ ] He could have took the time to to bring some light to that. He could have mentioned their names on that stage at Yankee Stadium. He go, "Hey, we need to find out what happened to the girl down in uh that went down to uh uh and got hung down in um down the south." You know, get a different name right now. We did we talked about on the show. So, I'm saying, you know, he could have brought up the young brother that just lost his life hanging off his friends. I'm saying he could have took that time and did something more positive than jump on jump on Kaepernick. That's all I'm saying. Carl and Tiffany. And I just felt that he took us a a swing at a guy that's very popular and and and and Kaepernick is not as popular as Jay-Z, but Kaepernick is no slouch. He's put his ass on the line for the black causes and this show is about black causes. I'm done.
>> I'm straight.
So, I'm definitely going I have a list of things that Jay-Z and Beyonce has did for the community.
Um, Jay-Z has a Sean Crowder Foundation that was founded in 2003.
Um, him and his mother, Gloria Carter, has it. They do scholarships for students from lowincome families, college preparation and mentoring. They do emergency financial assistance for students. Um they help students abroad support for the first generation of college students. We also have Beyonce.
She has the BG Goods Foundation. The BG Goods Foundation is scholarships for H.B.CU BCU students, grants for blackowned small businesses, disaster reliefs after hurricanes and wildlife, housing assistance, beauty school grants, entrepreneurship funding, and community economic development.
Things Jay-Z and Beyonce did together.
Um they created about love scholarship providing $2 million and scholarship for students attending five historic black colleges and universities awarded on the run scholarship in multi cities during their tour for students pursuing higher education. They also donated $100,000 scholarships to students doing their tour their tour stops. They support black communities, donating $1.5 million to civil rights organizations, including Black Lives Matters, Hands Up United, Dream Defenders, and the Trayvon Martin Foundation. They do disaster relief, hurricane Harvey relief in Houston, Puerto Rican hurricane relief, Mexican earthquake, the Caribbean disaster, winter storm assistant, Florida hurricane, and Los Angeles wildflower um wild wildfires relief through the BG Good Foundation. They helped with the co millions of dollars towards mental health, essential workers, housing assistance, small blackowned businesses, food assistance, and community organization. They also did criminal justice, financial support for bail funds during protests, funding for criminal justice and legal service services, donation support and legal aid and undeserved communities.
Um they both together founded two major charitable organization awarded millions of dollars to scholarships, invested in historical black colleges and universities. They donated to many disaster relief, blackowned business grants, civil rights, criminal justice, housing and food relief. That's all I would say about Jay-Z and Beyonce. I know that not all celebrities can go out and say testing one two testing one two.
this is what we're doing for the community. You know that being a celebrity, you have to do things through your charitable organizations. And I think that with him being in his position, he can do the he's doing the best him and be is doing the best cuz remember this country is run by white people. Okay? He cannot go and buy the projects. He can't do that. You can't do all these different things. And again, if you need anything from him or his family, you can write them. And if they feel that they can be able to help and assist you, they would do it. His mother has been doing this for a long time in the community. So again, I will never ever disrespect Jay-Z on a pl a platform. I won't never disrespect you or any other black man. I would never ever do it. And with the cabin car Kaepernick, he only mentioned that is because they keep saying it online. You did this to Kaepernick. You did this to Kaepernick. If Kaepernick didn't want, he wanted to continue his fight. He didn't have to sign the check. They didn't have to sign the check. HE COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE, I DON'T WANT THAT MONEY.
I want to be able to continue to fight for people. But if he got the money and he can use the money to be able to help and assist other people, so be it. And that's again, that's not that's male male stuff. Whatever male beef they got, that's through males. I'm a female. And my thing is I got nothing but love for Jay-Z to eat his own. And I can't do anything. I What can I say? I don't got his money or his ends or his wins. So, I'm good.
>> Well, Tiffany, um, thank you for that.
Um, we appreciate it. um point out all the wonderful things that uh J&B has done and that's beautiful thing like you've pointed out. I didn't know and um it's a good thing that you know that they're doing some things in the community or or for people that need it right with their money. That's a good thing. Um that still doesn't excuse uh him going after uh a a black man that's doing good things for our community also. Um, and I'll leave it at that.
Yeah, cuz you know, he can still do all those great things that you mentioned about going after another powerful black man who put his neck on the line for police brutality, lost his career over police brutality, you know. Um, and we boycotted Target because they sided with Trump and his racist ass regime. uh and and and uh took away the DEI hires and all the other things that they were uh had in place to help uh black people that mainly shop at their stores and and stuff like that. And when Trump became president, they go, "Oh, Trump's president. we don't need to do any of this stuff for these black people. And they got rid of all those programs, you know, and uh slapped all the black people in the face that was shopping for them, you know, that that put billion millions of dollars in their into their organization, the Target brand, you know, and it was a slap in the face to a lot of black people. That's why that boycott was cost, you know. Can you imagine uh the the the uh going back to Dr. King went the the bus boycott? Can you imagine uh whoever it was the biggest entertainer of the 60s, black entertainer of the 60s back then uh would go uh go, man, forget that bus boycott. We're going to perform uh you know, I mean, that would have been like a big slap in the face if the whole Mottown group crew was like, man, we're going to do a concert for the bus boycott people. Not not uh not the boycotters, but for the people that own the buses. You know what I'm saying?
That's that's how we feel right now.
That's all. So, yeah, it's a touchy situation cuz we're we're talking about a very celebrated, well-loved entertainer, uh, him and his wife. And, you know, he's right now he has some damage and control. If he cares though, Tiff, if he if he cares, maybe he doesn't give a [ __ ] But, >> well, he's coming out with his fourpart interview. They're going to be interviewing him. I don't know if it's on Netflix or HBO and people can watch and see how he feel about certain things and everything that's been going on these past couple of years. I'm happy that he is a standup man. He's a husband. He's a father. His daughter is up there a very good pro protege. Blue Ivy is raised very well. She's playing piano. I done heard men say they want families just because they see that. So, if we could promote more um men being entrepreneurs like him, cuz not everybody's going to be rich, right?
>> Anybody watching this show, please uh send this tape to Jay-Z so he can uh get Tiffany, Carl, and I a studio. Uh cuz she didn't endorse the hell out of Jay-Z just now. You need They need to send your ass a check, Tiffany.
>> I don't know what your bank I don't know what your bank account I don't know what your bank account look like. I don't know what your bank account look like, but Jay-Z owes you a check and he need to build either get us a studio somewhere so we can do this show in a live studio. Somebody please hashtag anj this this show today.
So >> yeah. So listen, you could love somebody, but if they're wrong, they're wrong, right? We have kids, Kevin and I, we have kids. You can have family members. We have people who stop talking to their family members because they support Trump. They still love him, but they let them know, hey, while you're by supporting Trump, you know what I mean?
That and they let him have for supporting Trump.
You can't I mean, what I'm hearing from Tiffany, she love Jay-Z. If Jay-Z probably was pedophile, it seemed to be okay with with with Tiffany. He can do >> No, no, NOW YOU'RE DOING TOO MUCH.
>> NO, DON'T TELL ME I'M DOING TOO MUCH.
I'M SAYING WHAT I'M SAYING. I'm saying I'm saying IT SEEMS LIKEABLE NOW. YOU'RE GOING TOO FAR.
>> It seems like he can do no WRONG FOR YOU.
>> NO, YOU'RE GOING TOO FAR. YOU'RE GOING TOO FAR. WHEN YOU CALL I CAN'T GO TOO FAR. I CAN'T GO.
>> NO, YOU'RE DOING TOO MUCH.
>> I'M NOT.
>> NO, YOU'RE DOING too much.
>> Go wrong.
>> HE WAS A PEDOPHILE. I WAS STILL VOTE ROOT FOR HIM. NO, YOU'RE DOING TOO MUCH.
>> IT seems like it because it's the same thing with the people who support Trump, right? There's so much evidence that Trump likes little girls. He's a pedophile, but people say say, "Hey, look at the taxes. My taxes are low. My 401k is going up." They don't care about that part. That's that's the kind of energy you're giving Jay-Z like he can do. You have said nothing. You're telling me that that there's nothing wrong with what Jay-Z is doing. Nothing wrong with what he's doing. I'M NOT GETTING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOOR. I DON'T NEED GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOOR. YOU'RE NOT GOING to sit here and tell me, "Oh, if he was a pedophile, you would still ROOT FOR HIM."
THAT'S DISGUSTING.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE THE MAN can do no wrong.
>> Remember, I AM A VICTIM OF RAPE. SO, YOU GOT TO BE >> NO, WE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THAT. NO.
NO. AND WE'RE not going to We're not going to divert TO THAT.
>> NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. I'm saying Well, it's not I was just making a reference. I was just saying the guy no wrong.
>> It would seem the guy can do no wrong if it does nothing. you have said nothing negative or uh or something anything to to say that Jay-Z was wrong for what he said. Well, I don't want to say he's wrong, but if if he's supposed to be part of the black community and we're trying to we have this movement where say we're boycotting Target and he comes out, he's with Target, we're boycotting the NFL, he goes with the NFL, you know what I mean?
That's not a person that's with the black community.
Tiffany's gone. I don't care.
Um, that's not a person that's with the black community, you know, and that's my point. Like Kevin, you brought up the bus boycott, you know, when Dr. King was marching, harve sometime you saw Harry Bella, they had all the big se why? Because they know those people have influence, >> right? Right. Right. Yes. All big celebrities had influence. So Dr. King had the Sammy Davis Jr.'s and Artha Franklin uh probably the biggest out of that group and of course Hela Bellfonte and and you know some uh and and and and he had some white lives Frank Sinatra uh also was down with Dr. King and um forgot the other guy uh the other the other Kuner singer from Vegas he was down with him too. Uh so yeah he had King had white and black celebrities marching with him for for you know rights for everybody's you know um Tony Bennett Tony Bennett was also there uh I just saw a picture uh that was intriguing. It was a picture of Bernie Sanders when he was young. I think I sent it to our chat line uh guys. Bernie Sanders when he was young being carried by like five cops. They had him by the legs and by the arms carrying him, you know, and under arrest. And he was at a Dr. King civil rights uh uh protest. He was there protesting for our civil rights.
Bernie Sanders, the old man that we see now, was once a young man who was out there on the on the front line with Dr. King getting his ass handed to him, you know. So, uh what do you think of Bernie now? He put in the work, man. He put in the work.
>> Yeah. Bernie been down for a long time, dog.
>> Yeah, Bernie put the work in, man. So, people find him to be a crazy old man now. But some of the stuff he says makes sense. You know, he's a socialist.
Whatever the hell that socialist means uh take your take socialist mean take take taxpayers money and help everybody in >> that what they they call him madami.
They say >> yeah, they call him madami a socialist because and and Bernie Sanders endorsed him by the way. They call him a socialist because basically a socialist is a person that wants to use the government to help people, >> you know, uh and government don't want that. They don't want nobody. They don't want they, you know, billionaires want to say billionaires. Millionaires want to be millionaires. Everybody want to be at the top want to be rich and they don't want nobody to come up, you know. So if you're socialist down here while they here, right?
>> Yeah. If you're a socialist like Madani wants to try to do things to help New York City have an even playing ground >> and it's a long way to go, but he's doing some things to try to help, you know, New York become an even playing ground. He's he froze the rent, for example, you know, uh, in some places where you can't raise your rent because every every month the rent goes up.
>> Yeah. Every every six months, every time you have to redo your lease, it goes up.
>> It can't go it can't go up no more. He froze that.
>> He put a freeze on it. Yes.
>> He put Yeah, he froze it so they can't do it anymore. So, and and these rich people hate that, Tiffany. They hate that he's helping people. Uh my mom, you know, out in Arizona, her rent go her rent just went up like every every freaking like six, eight months, 10 a year, they raise the lady's rent, you know? Uh like what? Like, you know, keep raising her rent like it's going what's it going to be? you know, she live another hundred years, you know, the risk going to be freaking, you know, 100,000 because every every he raised the freaking rent every year on on my on my mom. So, yeah. Um, so that's happening a lot in New York City. These greedy ass rich people are raising these rents on, you know, raising the rent on on on people. So, he froze everything up.
>> So, he's trying to do things. He's trying to build some grocery stores, too, that in in certain communities to help too, Tiffany. And they're against that. all the bodeggers are against it because those bodeggers uh uh you know them fruit stands and stuff, they're gonna they're the ones gonna take the hit, you know.
>> Well, listen, if you're not supporting our community and giving back to our community, I don't care. People should not be starving. We have earth. We have the earth that we can grow things. So, we people we don't we don't supposed to be starving. So, if it's going to hit certain people, I was just delivered some beautiful um vegetables and stuff from a program and an organization, you know, and I appreciate it. I appreciate the fruits, the cabbages, the vegetable.
I appreciate and it was freshly grown from the ground, you understand? So we have to support more of helping our community, you know, and getting fresh food and, you know, and not price gouging because a lot of these people from other countries that own these businesses are price gouging. I mean, right? They call Spanish people run this. YOU DON'T SEE REALLY NOT SO MANY BLACK people in there working, but they're price gouging that we have to go out of our community to go and buy food. You understand? BECAUSE Y'ALL WANT TO Y'ALL WANT TO CHARGE $8 for some orange juice when YOU CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IT'S $3 OR $4 OR GO TO ALDI'S, YOU KNOW. SO, we all are on a budget and things need to change, you know. And if Madami or some it's making it easier for New Yorkers and it can give uh um help other people that's in other states help them because people in other states need help too, you know, cuz it's hard because you're living to pay rent. You're living to pay your bills, take care of your children, and by the time you sit down, YOU HAVE NOTHING CUZ YOU DONE PAID EVERYBODY. You can't go on a trip. You can't do nothing for yourself or nothing like that. So things do need to change. So he he's making some changes and it's going to take some time, Tiffany. But he's he's on the right track, you know, and everybody's coming all all the haters are coming at after him with the socialist thing.
>> Good things.
>> Yeah. You can't do good things for for for middle class people or poor people cuz if you do then you're considered a socialist cuz you want to take taxpayers dollars and not using on wars like most Republicans want to have wars and use billions of dollars on wars instead of taking those billions of dollars and giving everybody healthcare, you know.
So that's the problem.
>> You got Listen, look at what's what's his name? You know, if y'all want to we want to talk about somebody that damn Elon Musk.
>> Oh, Lord.
>> He's a billionaire. No, excuse me. Isn't it zillionaire or something?
Trillionaire.
>> Billionaire. I think I think he's the first America's first trillionaire. Yes.
>> America's first billionaire.
>> Everybody. And we want to argue about all these these these people that are bought half of these people are bought AND PAID FOR. BUT YOU GOT HIM GOT all this money that can help so many people.
So many people. and they don't do it.
It's sad. I heard that Jordan just opened up another free clinic in his community in North Carolina. You understand? And I think that's good.
People need that. We need hospitals. We need that. But you already know it's red tape with everything, especially when it's dealing with black people.
>> Amen.
>> Carl, you still with us, man?
call. I think your mic's uh >> No, it's working.
>> Okay, it's working. All right. You with us, bro? You with us? Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. All right. We can move on, man. Um we can all disagree on this show as we do many times. We've had some heated debates and heated uh disagreements on this show. That's what we do, you know.
And for people that watch that hate on us every week, >> we don't always we don't always agree on everything on this show. No, we don't.
>> What we do agree on uh is that racism is real.
>> Yes.
>> And we should all agree that black people should help each other, you know.
>> Yes. More. Yes. So, you know, but you know, no, there's no perfect human beings, you know, but you know, I'm glad, you know, that you did uh do some homework and point out some of the nice things that Beyonce and Jay-Z are doing, you know, but hey, before we end this, you know, we ended move on, man. But we we need more, you know, we need more.
>> We need a lot more. And it's not only from him, it's other people out there.
Like, look at what's P. Diddy going through. You could have did so much for your community. This man was making almost 50 million, 60 million a year with his money for liquor. You could have used that money and opened up your own distillery. You could HAVE USED YOUR MONEY AND OPENED UP A factory so we don't have to go to China and have people make OUR OUTFITS. YOU SIMPLY LIKE I'M SAYING, YOU HAVE these people that are part of us. Baron Allen, all these people, they have money that we can be able to build something or do something more for our community and they're not banding together. So, my thing is we're going to have to just help the ones that cross our paths, you know, and try to help as much as we can. But, um, I can't argue with rich billionaire issues cuz like I said, we don't know what they go through behind closed door. We don't know what's going on, you know. But to ones that do help and reach out or they help in silence, we honor and we salute you.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, we need all our celebrities to come forward, you know, but they're not >> they're not most of them most of them aren't, you know, you got those who do things, you got those that do things behind the scenes, you know, uh that we don't hear about until they pass away. You know, you hear about a lot of stuff that Prince did a lot of stuff. They did a lot of stuff.
did a lot of stuff for people AND THEY NEVER PUT IT OUT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T want it out, >> right?
>> You know, a lot of people, you got a lot of celebrity that are very humble that they don't want that information out.
You understand what I'm saying? Just like if you win THE LOTTERY TICKET, YOU REALLY CAN'T TELL EVERYBODY CUZ THEY'RE going to BE COME LOOKING FOR YOU TO kill you or they feel like you supposed to do this, you supposed TO DO THAT. WHY YOU NOT DOING THIS? A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T OWE US ANYTHING.
>> I hit the lottery. I'll be doing this show from Bahamas next week. So, y'all want to kill me? You have to come you have to come to Bahamas and kill me cuz that's where I'mma be at.
>> That's where the hell I'mma be at.
>> Yeah.
>> In the Bahamas by the beach.
>> That's the last place you want to go actually cuz them them Bohemians will get your ass.
>> Oh god. Thank you.
>> Well, just I'm going to say and this is going to be my last word on this topic.
Um and I feel strongly about this. Just cuz you're a celebrity, you don't get to do whatever. You don't get to say whatever. Um, you can do a thousand things great. If you do one thing wrong, I don't see why you can't get called out for doing that one thing wrong. No one is saying that you're a horrible person, but you did one thing that we don't agree with. Why not listen and try to fix it? You know, >> right? I don't have anything against Jay-Z or or you know, but if you if if we as black people, which I don't understand how how you can be black in America, you see what's going on. You've been here your entire lives and then you still okay with turning your back. But I get it. You know, you're in a billionaire stratosphere right now. Your friends are billionaires and your friend circle is all white. So, you got to keep those people happy. me. I told a story about Damon John, the guy that owns Fubu who makes who was worth over 400 million at the time.
He said something about Lewis Farcon and the Jewish people got upset with him and he had to apologize. This is a man with 400 million. Why did he apologize? Cuz he knows his 400 million came from those people.
So he could not he didn't want to say anything against them. Um because again that's where his money comes from. So I get it. You know Jay-Z is in that in that area. I mean there was a I showed a video where Jay-Z was in a walking uh a walking club and somebody took a picture of Jay-Z walking with all these older white men.
They were like what the hell is Jay?
>> I'm sorry that's funny. the walking club billionaires and they go for walks around New York City. They walk in Central Park and you know what I mean?
So that's his and you know Kev when you when you reach like when you're a celebrity like you do comedy shows aren't the white people really nice to you after the show.
>> Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
>> It's kind of the same thing. So >> you walk up, shake your hand, tell you did a good show, you look at your hand, it's a $100 bill folded up in there. Oh, thank you.
Yeah, they have a lot of lot of love.
But that don't mean, you know, after that comedy show's over, you run into them the next day in their neighborhood.
It might be a different thing, right?
You know, exactly. I mean, I I I I love Michael Jackson, like you said. I love, you know, different celebrities, but if they did something that I don't agree with, I would speak up on it. Doesn't mean I hate them. I don't hate Jay-Z, you know. And you got you got on Michael about two months ago. We did some stuff on Michael and you was you got on Michael about something. You were disappointed in something and you was riding his ass. And I'm sitting there going, I know Carl love Michael Jackson.
What is he doing? You know, like get off of Michael's back, you know, but you said something about Michael cuz he did something you ain't you wasn't happy about, you know, and you made it clear and I'm like, "Come on, man. Why you on Michael?" You know, but yeah, we always speak on people. Even if we love them, we got to speak on them, man. So >> get on people family. If I can get on people in my own family, why can't I get on Jay-Z for something? He said like don't make sense. But anyway, um >> we're move on.
>> We're gonna move on. We can agree to disagree, you know.
>> Yeah.
>> Jay-Z don't know me. I don't know Jay-Z.
I almost met I told I saw Jay-Z in Barbados like uh I would say like eight, nine years ago.
It was him and Beyonce at a hotel and my I didn't go there to see them. I just happened to be at this hotel where one of my school schoolmates, he's a manager at the hotel and he invited me down, you know, to just hang out because I hadn't seen him in like 30 years and he told me, "You know who those people are then?" He showed me and I saw Jay-Z and Beyonce on there, you know what I mean?
And I have nothing against the guy, you know, but come on, we we trying to do something here. Well, he's going to be on this show uh helping us out because somebody's going to send him this tape of Tiffany talking about how great he is and he's going to come in and buy us a studio.
We're going to be sitting in some plush leather seats in a lighted studio in Manhattan doing this show car. You going have to commute down from Manhattan and Scoop Tiff and uh meet us at the studio.
>> Y'all not coming in the building. I'm not LET I'M LIKE JAY, THEY WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU. WE NOT LETTING THESE CATS IN THE BUILDING. ESPECIALLY THAT ONE, THAT CAR. WE NOT LETTING HIM IN. WE NOT LETTING him and Kev IN. WE NOT LETTING Y'ALL IN.
>> Hucked up.
>> All right. Moving. Tiffany, you know I love you. You know, love always. We gota we got to keep it moving. Um uh so, uh Tiffany told me we need to talk we talk about black space. How do we act when you're a black person in a white space? How do you act? What do you do? Do you move different? Do you talk?
>> We uh they say, "Well, black people, we have to what we call code switch. We speak a certain way when we're around um white people because we want to make them comfortable, I guess." Um um but we have to we have to think, and we've known this, black people know when you're in a white space, you have to move differently. there's certain things you can and cannot do. Um, and uh, we really have to be on our P's and Q's when we're in uh, spaces where we are the only one. Cuz if you think for one second that you are accepted in that space, there's a 99.99% chance you are absolutely wrong.
I worked at a I worked for this company one time and there was this this old white guy. His is Joe. Joe was about 8 70 80 years old at the time. At that time I was like in my 20s and we would walk by the women's bathroom at lunchtime and whenever we walk by the women's bathroom Joe would pound and kick the door like I mean really really hard and inevitably somebody would open up the door and of course 99% of the time is a white woman. She would open up the door and stare at the black people because it was Joe and it was like four of us who were black and then Joe was the one older white dude and they would just open the door and look straight at us and Joe would laugh.
>> And you thought that was cute?
>> Well, he would go I knew they wouldn't think it was me, you know, and and he would laugh.
>> That's not nice, >> you know. But I'm just saying that's, you know, that's another that's an example of, you know, being a black person in a in a space where, you know, you're the only, you know, we weren't the only ones actually. We were there were more of us than Joe, but it's still >> And I would have pointed right at Joe.
That was that white bastard.
>> They wouldn't believe they listen, they would not have believed it. Anyway, uh what's your opinion on white black faces and what do you tell your kids? What do you tell Angelo about racism? How old is Angelo? He's still young.
>> Too young. He's too young. He's five.
But >> he's young.
>> We haven't had a talk yet. I got a few few years where we had that talk. Um, >> look, I didn't have any My parents didn't give me any talk. Well, my actually my dad um always been aware of white people and he probably learned it from his mother. I remember I remember uh not white spaces but my my I remember driving my dad we lived with my dad in California uh for a summer. My mom and dad of course separated and remarried but he's we was go spend his summers out in uh California with my dad lived in uh in um Berkeley Oakland area I think Richmond somewhere like that out there in um California the Bay Area. So, um I remember we drove us back from uh from California back to um Maryland. Uh it was like a 3 and a half day trip. Um and we were driving through Colorado and we were kids. We like 10, 11, 12, 13, something like that. And we're like, "Dad, we're hungry."
>> And my dad My dad said, "I am not stopping. We're going through Colorado."
My dad Salt Lake Salt Lake City to be exact, I believe. Salt Lake City, I He goes, "I'm not stopping. I'm not stopping. These white people were piss were spitting your food."
And I said, "Wow, I never forgot that."
>> I had to be like 11 years old at that time. Never forgot that. And I'm 61 right now. I've never forgot that.
>> That was my talk. That was my keep your head on a swivel.
And because he says, "I can't stop. I'm sorry y'all hungry, but these white people will spit your food."
And I, wow, you know, I'm 11 years old, 10 years old, something like that. I'm listening to him say that, you know, and he was right, you know, I'm sure, you know, um, so that was my talk. So, I haven't had to talk with with Angelo u cuz he's too young. But we had to have that talk about, you know, how to I had to talk with Selena, my my my daughter, my my my daughter, she's now uh a grown lady, you know, in her early 30s. She got a birthday coming up in August. Um, you know, when I raised in Selena, um, most of her friends at school were white. A matter of fact, her first couple of guys she dated was white.
>> So, you know, me and her had to talk quickly, you know, >> at it fast. And I was like, "Look, I don't um care about your white friends and I don't care about your uh even about your white boyfriend. Long as you know who you are, you know, as a black person, long as you know who you are, you know, as long as you know your history, your culture, and and who you are, it's okay to be around black people as long as you know who you are." You know what I'm saying? So, that's kind of how I talked to her. you know, know your history, know that you're black, know who you are, and you can hang around anybody.
And that's kind of talk I gave to her.
And she was like, "Dad, you're racist."
>> That's good advice, though. That's good.
>> She gave me the whole dad, you racist stuff all the time. And I go, "Why am I racist? I make my living around white people. I got plenty of white friends.
I'm always around white people. Uh, when I travel, you know, my colleagues, my agent, my bookers. I'm far from racist.
I I I just know the world. This girl goes to college to all black college and comes out like Angela Davis.
>> That's what I'm talking about. Go.
>> You know what I'm saying? She got the afroist the black fist in the air. She is definitely uh uh what's what's uh Tupac's mother's name? She That's my daughter right?
>> Yeah. Aimi Shakur. That's my daughter right now at 36, 35 years old. I should have my daughter's take time for young people to wake up. And a lot of them do wake up in college because what I'm learning and listening to other people's stories, they didn't learn black history until they got into college where they took black history courses. Because in our school system, especially in the south, they do not talk or stress black history like that. Remember, they don't want white little children to be upset.
And also, they want us dumbfounded that we don't know what's going on. And I think that this is why a lot of young people, black people that do hang out with white people, they don't know the history that blacks and whites had to go through these past 300 years, three to 400 years. I think if they would have known a little bit of the history, they would think twice on how you hang out with them or when you go places with them, certain things you should do. And I think I'm not going to the woods with white people. No, no, I'm not going with no woods. I'm not being the only black person in the woods. No, that's not gonna work. I'm also not going to do water. I'm not going to the Mississippi River, the Delta, the any of that, and be the only black person. It's just certain things. I'm not going to your house and being the only black girl full of white people at a pajama party. Like a lot of these things, these circumstances and situations that we're hearing about, I know as a black person, a black woman that's woke or a woman that knows the history of our people, I'm not going to do those things. I'm I would never do those things because we don't have a good relationship with them. Now, it's not all white people.
Let me just stress that. It's not all white people, but for black people and black Americans, we have not had the greatest um relationship with white people, you know, and I'm always going to think about that behind my head. I'm always going to be on point. I'm sorry.
And I think that everybody should be like that. It's sad that we as people, black people, have to have these talks with our sons, with our daughters, to express to them, please be careful.
Please be on point with your white friends or anything like that. We have to do that. But they don't do that with their children because white people feel safe with us in a way. They're scared that we will beat them at a certain level, but they are really safe around us cuz they know that we're not going to hit them. We're not going to hurt them.
We're not going to bother them. We walk right past them. Only way we going to come for you. If you come in our face, you try to hurt us, we are going to swing. We're not allowing you to hurt us or to abuse us. So again, it's sad that we do have to have these conversations, but we have to be very cautious on who we hang out with, and we have to stress this to our children also.
>> All right, here's a brother talking about the uh same topic. I haven't made space for white people in public or on the sidewalk for years. Not because I'm rude or not because I don't have manners, but because white people expect us to due to the history of our positioning as black people in this country. And if you're white and you're watching this, there's a moment on the sidewalk that most black people know that you never have to think about.
You're walking, someone's coming the other way, and without thinking, you move. Not because you wanted to, not because there wasn't room, but because somewhere deep inside of our muscle memory of us in this country. That is what was required. That reflex has a history. During slavery, black Americans had no legal claim to public space. The sidewalk, the street, the town square, those were white spaces. Black presence was conditional and punishable. After emancipation, Jim Crow formalized that exclusion. Black pedestrians were expected to step off the curb and make way for white passerbys. not as a courtesy, not as law, but as submission.
And that was the structural architecture of what Jim Crow was. Jim Crow was designed to make black inferiority legible in every dimension of public life, including on how you move through it, who walked freely, who got out of the way. The sidewalk was the daily rehearsal for racial hierarchy. Repeated so many times, it stopped feeling like enforcement and started feeling like nature. Laws change faster than bodies do, than cultures do, than memory does.
So when the explicit rules ended, the expectation didn't. It went underground into a social reflex into unconscious habit. Psychologists call this embodied racial difference. Centuries of enforced subordination stored not in history books, but in our posture and our eye contact and how much room you allow yourself to take up. It's just like us being at grocery stores. And you can always say that white people have no sense of personal space because white people never has never had to have sense of personal space. When a black person holds their line, doesn't break stride, doesn't drift towards the curb, doesn't perform the difference the architecture demands, something else happens. The expectation meets resistance, the invisible becomes very, very visible.
Refusal is one of the oldest forms of resistance in black American life. Rosa Parks didn't move. The Greensboro students didn't move. Holding ground in public space has always been a declaration that the hierarchy is legitimate. And in 2026, we're still contesting black dignity everywhere in legislators, in courtrooms, in voting lines deliberately made longer and on sidewalks. I'm in Texas right now with my brother and my niece and we were walking and we saw this group of family and they refused to move and I refused to move and I said, "I'm not moving."
And they eventually went around me and it just made me think about how much of this nation's history and trauma of our ancestors we hold inside and how much is expected of us from them. So, if you're white and you're listening to this, please mind your personal space. If you're black and you're listening to this, remind yourself to take up space because at the end of the day, we're all Americans and we're all in this country, no matter what our skin is. Stay black, stay blessed.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Even something as simple as walking on the sidewalk, I swear, >> every time I'm walking and there's a white person coming towards me, they do not move. They do not move. They keep walking straight and I know they see me. But what I do, I stop walking and I just stand there.
>> And you know what, Carl, though, it wasn't always that way. I think it's more now because of um our current administration.
>> Oh, the administration. It's like they're more bolder.
>> They're more emboldened now because I remember back in the day, Carl, uh if a black man was walking towards a white person, they get the hell out the way.
I'm talking not 60s and and and and stuff like that because of course, you know, during that time it was, you know, especially in the south, no. And probably still in the south, no. But up north, nah, you going to walk, you going to get your ass out the way and they're getting a little what you're saying is true.
>> Cuz I've gone to the grocery store and I've walked and I'm in the path of a white man. I'm going, one of us got to move, you know, and uh or at least give an inch. And sometimes I'll move to get that little courtesy inch and he won't even move at all. Straight up almost shoulder bump. You know I got to do this to avoid the shoulder bump. I like man they awfully bold lately. You know but you know they're in bold.
>> Thank God I haven't had that problem when I'm walking in the street. Maybe because I command I'm a big mama so you know maybe I command attention. I don't have that problem when they see me walking. They walk right they get out my [ __ ] way cuz I give them that look. I don't I and I grab my pocketbook too real tight. Well, I'm a big dude. What?
6'2?
>> No, you are y'all both of y'all are very large. Tall. I didn't know y'all was that tall. Y'all are damn tall. That damn, >> we've gotten taller since you last seen her. Tiff.
>> Yeah. You know, I'm gonna This person made this comment. This is the kind of comment that scares me, Kev. This comment right here.
Why can't we all just love each other?
Nobody in today's world, at least the vast majority, actually give a [ __ ] about your skin color. That's such [ __ ] Those are those are the most dangerous kind of people. Those are the people I stay away from. Those are the people I avoid.
You know, those people that are in in denial, those are the most dangerous people to hang around. And there's a 99.99% chance, probably close to 100%. Now, that's a white person.
>> Yeah. He might be just gaslighting you, too. He he might just be gaslighting for for you know cuz I I can't imagine anybody in 2026 that lives in America don't see that race is a problem in this country. We just we just had 500 damn men walking across the National Mall on the 4th of July. You had to be under you had to be under a rock not to have seen those guys. What do you think they were doing? Spreading love.
>> They don't say and you want to hear something. You know us black people are the most loving people ever. We are always TURNING THE CHEEK. THAT'S WHAT THEY TAUGHT US TO TURN THE other cheek.
And we always turning the other cheek.
So now you know why we can't get along.
It's not about racism. No. No, it is.
And I keep telling y'all this world, especially America, is built on race.
That's how this country was built. And still to this day, and until the system change, because it's in the system, it's in the DNA of America, it needs to change to, and I said it last week, America need a psychiatrist. It needs a life coach. It needs to face the wrong it has done, make a mids so we can move on. And until America do that, we're still always going to be talking about this race [ __ ] because it's a part of the culture. Until they say it's an issue and we want to make change as white people, it's nothing going to change. It's nothing going to change.
They have >> Tell that gentleman that said that to go pull up the episode uh with the guy we had on two weeks ago.
>> Oh, with the white supremacist.
>> Yeah. Tell them pull that episode up so you can listen to that episode and then get back with us.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, that was a lot.
>> Here's what also say this person is funny. this these are the most dangerous white people. Uh he says if black man a black person was president, black athletes are paid more than white athletes. And then he goes on to say the [ __ ] like like that's that's his measure of things are better. Race relations are perfect in America because um >> because black athletes are paid more money.
>> Yeah.
>> Because they're not affected like we are. You they're not affected.
>> You know, that's hilarious.
>> Here's a here's a white doctor. If the for the person who put that comment about things are so great, who gives a [ __ ] about color? Listen to this white doctor.
>> Hey friends, this is Dr. Wes Cely from Vanderbilt University and I just wanted to talk a bit about racism and race in medicine and errors we've made along the way. I think this is an important topic because there are things that people have been taught like me earlier when I didn't have gray hair about the science of race in medicine that are all wrong.
And I'm going to give you three quick examples today. One is related to lung function, two related to kidney function, and three related to the color of our skin and how we get wrong measurements when we measure oxygen levels. for example, during COVID. So, first off, regarding lung function, you know, for decades, we have been adjusting people's lung function measurements in our pulmonary labs based on the color of skin. And there it has no scientific basis. It's all just stemming from racist thoughts about differences between white and black lung function. We need to get rid of those adjustments because they aren't real.
Secondly, kidney function. We've done the same thing with kidney function where we've we when we measure how well somebody's kidneys are working. We have been taught to adjust for color of skin and we now have disproven that in science and yet some people still use these measurements around the world making mistakes in adjusting how people's kidneys or measuring how people's kidneys work. And the third one, the most relevant to the COVID pandemic, is that the pulse oximter, which we put on our finger to measure our oxygen levels, is affected by skin pigmentation. And we actually have a report now of over 125,000 readings of pulse oximters showing that people with dark skin actually get an over read on what their pulseox says. So that for example if they got COVID got into COVID pneumonia came in the hot in the ER to get their their oxygen levels measured the pulseox would falsely would read falsely high it would overestimate their levels. So if they came in and had a level of 92 93% I'm would be lulled into thinking that they were normal when in truth their level could be like 88% 87 something dangerously low. So I have to know that and you need to know that so that if you're getting your oxygen levels measured with a pulse ox and you have dark skin that we can use for example a blood draw to measure that more accurately and understand if different therapies are needed for somebody with COVID if they have dark skin and we've misrepresented what their oxygen levels are. All these things are, I think, critical issues for us to consider when we're trying to rid the world of racism and especially the world of medicine.
There's no place for it in the world of medicine. Let's all stay together on this. And thank you so much. Bye-bye.
That's why it's called the practice of medicine and they have to learn from it.
It's so because I have a a machine for my mom because I have to um monitor her oxygen levels and they tell you if it goes to 88 that means that she needs oxygen. But they told me at 91 she's safe. 91 92. Isn't that something for him to actually say that that it is, you know, over race? That's that's deep to me. So now I'm going to extra check. You you understand? So if she's at 91, she really needs to be at 95. You understand what I'm saying? Because the way the monitoring is. I can't wait to tell her that. That's deep though. You know, >> thanks for sharing that.
>> Yeah. I mean, so when people say, "Oh, who gives a [ __ ] about skin color and racism doesn't exist anymore. if you guys stop talking about it, it's, you know, I mean, it's like those people, those are absolutely the most dangerous people um out there, you know.
>> Agree. Agree. But I I don't know if they're naive or they're just um just, you know, >> they not informed. They ill for they you got to remember a lot of people are not informed. They are just um how can you say they are just they they are talking what they learn. It's learned behavior.
You know, a lot of them don't take the time to do history, to look up things, to really find out. They just want to go along with what they were taught.
>> Yeah. So, um, as Dr. King used to say, two of the most dangerous things in the world is sincere ignorance.
>> Yes.
conscientious conscientious to stupidity which both basically means you know what what Carl just said you know or what Tiffany just said like they don't want to know or they do know and they're just uh stupid or they're just uh ignorant and don't know you know it could be two things you can know and and or you can not know you can know these things and still be ignorant or you can be ignorant and not know it's kind of like you know >> I personally I think they know but But a lot of people just want to wish racism away. They just they just wish it would go away. Just please go away.
>> It can't. You're right. But it can't happen like that, >> you know. But no. And they don't want to talk.
>> If they do, if they do their part.
>> Yeah. But they don't want to talk about it. They want to ignore it. They, you know, they just wait to just can can it just No, it's not going to disappear.
>> No.
>> You know, >> we need therapy. America needs therapy.
>> Do what Germany did. What Germany did after the Holocaust. What did Germany do? Germany say, "Hey, we effed up. We killed the Jews. We did a horrible thing. We're really sorry. Here's reparations. Here's whatever you need.
We put they put up uh monuments. They they put so much. They just admitted it.
They took responsibility for it. They talked about it. And now it's a much better place. It's not I'm sure it's not perfect, but America on the other hand said, "We're going to just keep pretending like it doesn't exist." And that's why it keeps it keeps thriving.
You know, that's fuel for racism to not talk about it. What Why are white people so afraid to talk about? It's not like you're going to tell black people something we don't already know. They have like they're going to surprise us with information about racism. No, we already know every single thing to know about racism.
>> Because I'll tell you why, Carl. Cuz I had we had a comedian colleague of our who who's a Trumpster who put a post up about reparations a few weeks ago. And um he was saying his family came over here. I guess that uh he's Italian. He lives in his family's from New Orleans.
And he's like, uh, nobody in my family owns slaves, so why should my money go to reparations? So the argument today is from this generation is, well, my family didn't do it, so why should I pay taxes?
Or my family didn't wasn't involved in it. Or I didn't have any slaves, so why should I pay taxes? I didn't have no slaves, you know. So, that's the the mentality that they have is that they didn't have slaves. So, why should they foot the bill for it with reparations for black people, but these same people don't have a problem with their taxpayer dollars going to use bombs to blow up schools over in Iran, >> you know? So they don't have a problem with their taxpayer uh going to uh uh uh all the other things that just, you know, are stupid and unnecessary that this country spends billions of dollars on every year. Uh you know, space programs and all this other crap they're doing just to, you know, spend all this billions of dollars. And we have the money to to pay reparations. You know, this and that was proven just uh a few months ago when when when Dumbo decided he wanted to try to pay off the January 6 riders, right?
>> He had he had 1.3 billion he was trying to give these people.
>> Yeah.
>> For tearing up the the the um the the >> tearing up the capital AND PUTTING [ __ ] ON IT. YOU GET PAID $1.5 BILLION DOLLAR.
NO, I'm not I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it at all. And um and Carl, I definitely want to read out some of the names of the suspicious deaths and hanging that is that has went on and what is going on right now. As y'all know, we're still um um what's his name?
Nolan Wells. Funeral is tomorrow.
>> Wow. And they still have two autopsies that needs to come out. And um I believe they're going to bring it out um um after the funeral. They want to probably just lay him to rest or whatever the case may be. But it's about it's about to come out and now you're finding all of these different cases that has been hidden that they it didn't make public view, you know, public, you know, and now it's coming out. So I definitely want to mention a couple of names. Not the kind.
>> I'm glad you brought Let me say this real quickly, Carl, of your mind. I'm glad you brought that up, Tiffany. The funeral remark, cuz uh speaking of Nolan Wales, I just want to say this real quickly. I saw something online that was disturbing to me. Uh was a black man that was on TikTok that was dragging Ben Crump and I was reading the comments and a lot of people a lot of people were beating up on Ben Crump.
>> Yeah.
>> Like a punching bag, you know, calling him an amalance chaser and all of this stuff and just coming down on the guy really hard. Uh, yes, Trump gets paid very well. He's a lawyer. He gets paid very well for doing what he does. Uh, but we need the Ben Crumps of the world.
Uh, you know, there's the catch 22 to it. Yeah. You know, you pick on him and Sharpton for for being these people that always involved in this stuff. But if him and Sharpton aren't doing it, then who's doing it? Because >> nobody.
>> They're going to Somebody's going to get away with murder without Ben Crump.
Somebody going to get away with murder.
get away with murder without Al Sharpton putting his nose in there. He's got his nose and everything. Oh, Ben Crump. Uh, call they call him Al Sharpton Jr. A lot of nasty comments towards the brother, man. I'm like, man, this man, whatever you think of Ben Crump, what do you think Al Sharpton?
They're there. They were there when for the Trayvon Martin to try to bring some justice for that young man. They been there for a lot of this unjustice that's happened, high-profile cases. They're they're there. But if those two didn't exist, who would be there?
You know, that's all I'm saying. So we, you know, for a black man on his Instagram, on I mean on his Tik Tok page to to come after Ben Crump like he did, man. I was just just, that was just crazy, man.
>> We just got to stop, >> like Tiffany said at the beginning of the show, we need to, you know, kind of find a way not to beat up on our own people, man, because it's too much of it going on while the other side is organizing.
>> Okay.
Okay, Carl.
curious as to if uh uh Nolan Nolan Wells's friends are going to show up to his funeral, the ones who claim to be his friends.
>> No, I don't think they should. They should.
>> That's a good point.
>> They should. And you know why? Because when he came up missing >> Yeah.
>> not one of them called his mother, >> right?
>> NOT ONE OF THEM WENT OVER THERE WITH his car, with his with his keys or anything and said, "Mama, I'm here. WAITING.
WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU look for him. Not their parents got in contact with them and said, "Girl, we I KNOW YOUR SON WAS WITH my son. THEY'RE NOT CARING. SO WHY I think that they should not come to the funeral. They should keep their ass away.
They That's my personal opinion. You know, I don't think they should come."
>> Right. I hear you. But I'm saying if they're claiming to be his friends, you know, but I don't I don't think they should go either. But I'm saying if they claimed to be his friends, you know, they were so such good friends, you know, >> Carl, they wasn't good friends. Look, let me just LOOK. THEY THE BOY WAS MISSING AND Y'ALL DID NOT TALK TO THE MOTHER.
Y'all didn't even reach OUT TO HER. LET ONE OF MY FRIENDS MISSING. I'M TRYING TO CALL THEIR GIRL. MAMA, ARE YOU OKAY?
WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO? WE ARE caring people. They don't have empathy or sympathy for us. And that's where they went wrong at because they didn't care.
They wasn't concerned.
>> So not coming to the funeral is an admission of guilt though, right?
>> If that was the case, right, they would have said something from the beginning.
They would have been supportive friends from the beginning, but they have not shown support to the family. So to be honest, they will be banned, >> right?
>> Or I'm going to do one of those things.
WHAT WAS THAT FROM? FIVE heartbeats when Red came to the funeral and the mama took the fist and caught her right in his damn head. Caught red in the face.
What's her name? Um, Dad. Oh my gosh.
From Five Heartbeats. You remember when the D I bring that up. It's funny you say that, Tiff. I was about to say Big Red showed up at the funeral, right?
>> YES. AND THEY RECORDED BRANDON. BOO. GET YOUR ASS up out of here.
>> Yep. Yep. I was going to bring that up.
That's funny as hell you mentioned that.
That was a great movie. The fire heartbeats. Yeah.
>> Yeah. But I definitely call I want to just mention because I had to look this up, you know. And again, let me give a shout out to Chad GBT. They need to pay us. They need to pay. So right now the deaths rule or debated by hangings is Robert Fuller. He died in 2020. Found hanging from a tree in Palmdale, California. Officials ruled it a suicide, but the family and the community said they believe it's more than that. You have Malcolm Harsh. He was he also was hung in 2020, found hanging in California. Okay. And then the drowning or water related is Taquan TJ Davis Jr. That's something that happened in 2021. The mother is still fighting. Now, mother has publicly questioned the officials account and has sought additional investigation. We have Nolan Wells. And we also have deaths that um that's also being investigated.
Kendrick Johnson. I know y'all remember the Kendrick Johnson, the one that was rolled up. They said he rolled himself up inside the Met. I mean, come on. I mean, they would tell us anything, right? Sandra Bland, all of a sudden she mysteriously hung herself. Okay, we got Kenneka Jenkins. I don't know if y'all remember the young girl that was found dead in the freezer. Still, that's mysterious. They don't know what really happened there. And then we have the historical um um a civil rights era. We have Emit Till that was killed in 1955, James Bird in 1998 by white supremacist. Michael Donald 191, his mother was the first one to sue um the KKK and win mad money. She hit them in their pockets. Okay. And then you have Aubrey, what's his name?
Ahmad Aubrey. The young men that got killed by um by the two white men um riding in the car. And we could never forget, I don't have his name, but he got he died in Mississippi on the college campus. They found him hanging on the 200 centennial because a lot of these things make me think of ritual.
are they doing this as ritualistic or whatever the case may be all these days 4th of July certain days that they're doing it. So we want to definitely if anybody that's in the chat that knows someone that has been um died of suspicious death or anything please make sure you type their name in in the in the comment section or anything cuz we want to not forget them. And I realy I feel bad for Miss um I think her name cuz she's been talking about her son for a very long time. Um I think CJ T I think TJ Jack um Davis. She's been talking about her son for a very long time and we want to send love out to her and hope that she gets some type of justice for her child and all the others that have mysterious death with their family members. Please, please be aware and there's been no convictions in any of those other cases. In the Armory case, uh that was the young man that was jogging, right? And and uh the reason that >> that case got out that case got out because of a cell phone video got leaked cuz it went for the cell phone video getting leaked uh that case would have never got out. It would have been covered up. So, but that's the only one that there's been a conviction. all those other cases you mentioned, Tiffany, uh there's been no convictions or nothing on those uh definitely murders and stuff.
>> Is isn't that so deep? And sorry, I'm sorry, Paul. And the ones that were exonerated years later after they done killed them or locked them up. We cannot forget the Scotchboro boys. They were when they was told they were they said that they raped a white woman. Years later, they was able to get out one died, right? The Groveland four. They also was accused of raping a 17 year old um white girl in 2019. All four received postmodm pardoms after the stake acknowledged that it wasn't them. You see this after all these years George Steiny 1944 a boy 14 years old was convicted of killing a white girl. two white girls at that, right? They wind up 2014 wind up wiping the conviction out because he didn't receive a failed trial. Um Eddie Lee Howard was wrongfully accused. DNA testing showed that he wasn't he didn't do anything.
They let him out after 26 years in jail.
Henry McCulla and Leo Brown, another one, 30 years in jail for supposed to be hurting a white woman. They found that they didn't do it. Tony Lee, 19. He just got exonerated 2026. Anthony Bardwater, wrongfully con um convicted for raping a white woman and he had 16 years in prison. His conviction was overturned in 2021. So, it is so many that is out there or has passed away that was accused of doing something or doing and they will wind up being exonerated because the system messed them up or effed them over. So, we want to give light to them. This is a serious question. I think I've asked this on the show. Is there any history of black people getting a group together and going and >> killing white people?
>> Uh, no. The question is the answer is no.
>> John Brown went out there kick kick some ass. But >> but I mean there was a John Brown was dealing with uh in a different era of slavery and all that stuff that >> we don't do that. We don't do that. You know >> just for fun. Is there any anything in the history of America where >> not one list?
>> There is no not in the history of United States of America where a group of black men went somewhere, snatched a white boy off the street, took him up in the woods, hung him in a tree.
>> Yeah.
>> And sit around and watch his body dango and then rolled out. No, it's never happened.
>> Never happened. Not one document that says that we ever went out just killing white people >> because we don't do that.
>> No, we don't. And there just no there's no history of it. No document like Tiffany said of it. It's not in our DNA.
It's not what we do. You know, do we commit crimes against other races? Yeah, of course we there's been black people that murdered white people. We're not saying that, you know. Of course, there's been robberies and things of that nature, you know. Uh, I watched a lot of crime shows. So, yeah. But it happens to each everybody does it though, right? Not just black people.
But I'm talking about what Carl is saying like lynchings. We're not talking about robbing a lady for a purse or or killing somebody, you know, we're talking about straight up racial lynchings.
Black people have never done racial racial lynchings of white people. No, >> not ever.
>> I'm not going to sit here and say black man never killed a white person because yes, they have. But as a as a black a group of black guys said, "We don't like this white boy. Let's take him in the woods and hang him." No, that's never happened in the history of this country.
It's just not >> we was never taught to kill white people anyway.
>> And that's my that goes to the bigger point of this whole segment here is that black people have been lynched since the beginning of this country. So, when a black person that's mentally ill or sick or going through some issues decide to take their life, the last thing they're going to do is hang themselves.
That's the last method of suicide is hanging. They jump off a building, shoot themselves, take some pills, whatever method of suicide you do.
>> Black people aren't hanging themselves.
That's nobody's going to buy no rope, go into a woods, put around the neck, and jump off a damn. No, it's not happening.
>> Yeah. And then all the place, all the um what you call that? All the hangings, they didn't find no chairs. They didn't find anything that they stepped on to DO IT. SO, HOW DID they do it? Don't you need a chair to hang your damn self?
>> I sent something to our chat line uh today. It was a a video I think I got for Instagram call was a guy who was mocking that. He was in the woods, black guy in the woods, and he's mocking about hanging himself. He go, "It's impossible to do, right?" And he's mocking it.
>> I think >> I wish you had that video. I wish you had that video. It's is comedy. He's trying to make fun of it, but he's mocking basically. Look, we don't hang ourselves. You know, it's impossible to do. It's ridiculous.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Uh, have you guys seen the uh Iran put out a mural of Trump laying in a casket? Did you see that?
>> Have not seen that.
>> Saw that.
>> I haven't seen it. I haven't seen that.
>> Wait a minute. I'M GOING TELL YOU WHAT I SAW WAS HIS HAIR sticking out the coffin.
>> This [ __ ] hair was out the coffin like >> like how we have time square here in in they bureau of Trump big Trump laying in a casket and they also have a uh with his kids as well. Little uh Iran is not playing. Uh so here here's Iran.
>> Let me see this.
Uh, >> I'm tell you should see his head going up.
A second billboard threatening the life of Donald Trump has appeared in Tyrron as peace talks continue to stall.
Yesterday, footage of a billboard featuring an image of the president laid down in a coffin with messy hair hit the news. Today, a new billboard referencing the sudden passing of South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham featured the words, "Who's next?" and the initials D and T. Graham's death has been at the center of conspiracy theories about either Russia or Iran assassinating him, but so far medical assessments and FBI investigators seem to agree upon unfortunate natural causes. According to Iran Wire, the billboards in Valley Esser Square are some of the largest in the area and are designed by the Oage Arts and Media Organizations. Oage is affiliated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and has been promoting its policies for years.
President Trump has expressed worry in recent days that he may be targeted by Iran for assassination attempts after Israeli officials claimed to have shared intelligence indicating the possibility.
Are you Are those his old coffins?
>> Yeah, for his kids. And the pictures Oh my god. They working they own type of juju over there.
>> Damn.
>> Yeah.
>> That's white on white crime. I'm not trying to get involved with that. Look, I'm not trying to get involved with that. BUT WHEN I SAW HIS HAIR coming out that COFFIN FLYING LIKE THAT, I SAID THEY IS NOT PLAYING. They said they put that messy hair on him. Listen, um that's on Trump.
>> Yeah.
>> Somebody Kevin and Tiffany. Somebody mentioned the beltwear sniper that was shooting those people. But he wasn't just shooting people because they were white.
>> He was shooting everybody.
>> Yeah. He was You talking about that West Indian man, right?
>> Right.
>> No. Yeah. Talking about Mal. I'm from DC. I lived through that. My family and I actually lived through that whole thing. We were in DC, Maryland area at the time of that uh Belway shootings or >> Yeah. He was molesting that boy, too.
>> Yeah. He was messing that boy and he was shooting everybody.
>> They actually shot a uh they shot a uh a young black kid in the stomach uh uh who survived by the way. Uh and he was black. So there was black victims in that also.
>> It was a big shot. He was just >> Yeah. He wasn't just targeting just he it wasn't a racial thing though. That's what we're talking about. We're talking about racial shootings now. He was just out plucking off white people with his rifle just because he was angry at white people. You'll have a point. But he wasn't it wasn't racial killings. He was the motivation for that thing was he wanted to get back at his ex-wife >> and her son. He was snipering all these people so he can get his ex-wife and kill her in the sniper thing so they can just look like she was part of this sniper thing. So the whole motivation was for him to take out his ex-wife. Uh and uh he was killing all these people to lead up to killing her. Uh but they caught him before he's able to snipe her out. But uh that was his whole motivation behind the whole thing. So, it wasn't a racial killing to the person that made that comment. It wasn't a racial killing.
>> Yeah. Uh Yeah. So, Yeah. So, >> but hey, but but Carl, the the uh the white guy that went into the Buffalo supermarket and shot all those black people, that was a racial killing.
>> That was a racial killing. that we don't no black guys never walk into a supermarket and go, "I'm here today to shoot white people cuz they're white."
Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And walk past black people and just start shooting.
No. This guy specifically walked to this grocery store that was uh basically in a urban neighborhood. 99% of the people in there were black people.
>> He stalked THE PLACE FOR THREE DAYS. We stopped the place in three days to make sure that it was a place that was frequently visited by African-Americans.
He went there and killed black people on purpose because they were black. Yeah.
So, we don't do that.
>> You guys know about this. I don't know about this. You guys might know about uh the Knoxville murders 2007 kidnapped and assaulted and murdered a young white CPL. I don't know what CPL means, but you guys know about the Knoxville murders. Was that a black person that uh >> I'm not quite sure. I'm not quite sure.
But we we're not saying I said this earlier. We're not saying that black people haven't killed murdered white people. Of course they have. Uh murdered black. Everybody kills everybody. Black people. White. But we're saying that >> I don't believe it's racially motivated.
Like I don't think that we sit around and plot to kill people racist over racism. We don't we're not people like that >> now. And now this one guy in Knoxville said, "Let's kill this girl cuz she's white." Then that's a racial killing.
It's a hate crime, right? Uh and then that's one out of 250 years.
All right. So if you found one out of 250 years, uh good for you. But I don't believe that the Knoxville thing was a racially motivated murder. It just a black guy killed a white girl, you know.
So, but the shoot on other foot.
>> Are you looking at the chat, Tiffany?
Somebody said, "Our chat is calling for violence. Are we aware of it?" Some I don't I I haven't been keeping up with the chat. I don't know if you guys see any violence going on in the chat.
>> I'm putting something in there now.
>> Oh, I don't uh I don't know what's being said. I don't I know sometimes that the conversation gets heated, but I've never seen uh I haven't seen any violence any but then again it's uh I could have missed it. But um did you see anything?
>> No, I don't see I see a lot of people put messages up but I have it where if it's too much their message don't get up unless I view it first.
>> Okay, >> you understand? So hopefully you know it's peace in the chat. First of all, we want to say thank you to all that's in my chat as I think I had I had at least 150 of them. Now it's about 85.
>> Is the violence towards the violence towards us?
>> The violence towards us or the violence towards us or towards something else.
>> NO, JUST IN THE CHAT THEY LIKE TALKING, BUT I DON'T SEE VIOLENCE. I don't see nobody saying anything. Again, I the way my messages is if you put up something that's not good, it's not going to come up. You understand? So, I'm praying, you know, that we have peace in the chat. We are against violence. Again, we didn't say this. We are protected by fair use only. Any of this content, the music is we do not own the rights to it at all.
Please make sure you like and subscribe and share and leave a comment. But also, this is a safe space for conversation.
Please, okay, Carl, get on my nerves sometime. Kev get on my nerves sometime.
But I love them and we have to have a safe space. So we want that in our chat, too. So anybody that's saying violence or anything, you will be blocked. Okay?
So if y'all know somebody that y'all saying that they being violent, please let me know so they ass can be blocked.
>> I'm like Ronnie King. Can't we all just get along?
>> Somebody said there were over a hundred black people on Horn Island that day that uh Nolan >> I didn't SEE A HUNDRED BLACK PEOPLE. NOW THEY'RE LYING. I I CAN PROBABLY SAY I SAW PROBABLY MAYBE ONE OR TWO DARKKINNED ONES AND THE REST OF THEM LOOK LIKE THEY WAS MIXIES. SO THEY ARE GODDAMN LIE. I CAN SAY IT'S PROBABLY WHAT FIVE OF THEM NOT EVEN FIVE OF THEM ON THAT what's called. So we're not trying TO HEAR THAT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOLAN Wells being on the boat with his white friends and when they called in to say that the boat WAS DOWN, THEY SAID EVERYBODY ON THE BOAT WAS SAFE. IF YOU SAYING THAT EVERYBODY ON THE BOAT IS SAFE, THAT MEAN NOLAN IS SAFE, TOO. SO AGAIN, THEY GOT MAD questions that need to be answered and we're not saying anything until them autopsies come up. And you better pray people, okay? Because people are very angry about this that now we can't have our children out with anybody because we don't trust y'all. That's an issue. So y'all need to be worried more about that.
>> Yeah.
Um, yeah. Uh, listen, I I'm I'm being honest. I have white friends and this was even before this old This was back in the 90s.
They invited me to go camping and I told them I was woods with white people and they thought it was funny. They laugh and they go, "Come on, you know, and I but because there's just some because I've seen them drunk."
Um, listen, I was hanging out with some white comedians when I was doing standup in Boston and uh they got to drinking and um one of them asked me, "Carl, you play basketball?" I go, "No, I I never You never play basketball? You [ __ ] come out the womb shooting hoops?"
>> Wow.
>> Oh, that's wrong. That's wrong.
>> He That's what he said. And I I that's what he said, you know, but he was really drunk and uh he was saying how we come out the womb dribbling and you know what I mean and uh you know we come out spinning the basketball and you know so is that the real person when a person is drunk and they start saying stuff like that. Is that the So >> that's the real you know they say when you drink that's the REAL PERSON. AND SHOUT out to anybody I heard you said while I was yelling. I'm very passionate about my life and I'm passionate about the world and I'm passionate about black people. So that's why you got the yelling. Okay, go back. I'm sorry.
Yeah. Um my um my son when he was like 10 years old, he would go for sleepovers at his wife's house. When I tell you I did not sleep that entire night and 5:00 in the morning, I was up and getting ready to go get my son.
You know, of course, when I get there, they're like, "Oh, the kids are still sleeping. They're in bed, you know, they go they want to have breakfast." I'm like, "I don't care. We got I mix up. We got somewhere.
Bring me my son. Bring me my son."
because I know they would play some stupid game or something silly that's funny to them but means death for my son you know and why did I allow him to go you know because he begged dad can I go is my friend you know what I mean and I relented but let me tell you when I say I did not sleep while my son was at a sleepover at that white family's house and yeah I had concerns cuz But I also did not let him sleep over at another friend's house who was black. And the reason was when I took him over there for the sleepover, I just smelled nothing but weed wafting through that entire house.
So I told him, "There's no way you're having a sleepover at this house."
>> But then again, you know, like I said, I I don't know. Something happens when when you know when white people drink and they think things are funny you know um funny for them but you know but death for us. So >> you know do you allow Angel to do sleepovers or would >> I allow uh Yeah. I mean I guess man I mean I you know >> it depends. It depends man. My daughter did sleepovers I believe. Um I you know I you know I I just you know we're raised man you know the world's different now. Put it that way. So no the world's we live in a different space now right?
>> Uh when I was in my 20s I dated white girls.
>> Yeah.
>> If I if I was single today would I date a white girl? No.
Not today. In this day, in this era, no.
But I had plenty of white girlfriends when I was in my 20s, but in 2026, not happening. If I was a single man, wouldn't happen.
>> Yeah.
>> Cuz it just I just don't think um you know, the today is a shame. We haven't we haven't gone far. We're back in this we're back in the 50s again, basically.
you know, black people being lynched.
>> Uh again, >> uh white groups are marching through the the clan has been reinvented. They no longer wear hoods now. They now they wear khakis and and and and bandanas and shades, you know. Um so, but it's still the same people. They just don't wear the hoods no more, you know. They changed their costumes. So, we're we're back living basically in the 50s and 60s again, you know. Um, so no. Uh, I don't think I don't think it's safe, you know, and I have, you know, family members that, you know, have all white friends, you know, some of my relatives, I won't mention her name, they do hang around white people, you know, that, you know, they and their girlfriend's white, you know, and all that sort of stuff. And, you know, it's their life though. you know they do they do you know but me personally I just you know you got to keep your head on a swivel now you know uh >> so it's Mhm. I'm traveling tomorrow, you know, to Vermont, which we know is probably what 90% uh white, >> but >> Oh, it is.
>> Vermont is also a a liberal state. And what I mean by that was the first time I did a show up in Vermont a few years ago, I got booked up there and my first time traveling up there and I'm I'm paranoid, you know, man, ain't no black people in this damn state. I'm driving through the and I'm driving through these little towns and stuff and I see this big white church up on a hill and in the on the front lawn of this beautiful historic white church was this huge banner that said black lives matter and I'm driving I'm looking around through all these yards and all these yards had black lives matter signs in them you know and I go wow I'm in like an all-white town and all I see is black lives matter everywhere.
you know, uh, so I was like, "Wait a minute. Bernie Bernie Sanders is the uh, uh, senator of of Vermont, right?" Yeah.
Okay. So, I started thinking, you know, these white people on some different stuff up here, you know? So, uh, so yeah, it made me feel a little bit more at ease, you know, uh, seeing the Black Lives Matter signs, even though I was in an area that's area that's mostly, uh, Caucasian people, you know, I was just tripping on the Black Lives Matter signs everywhere in their yards and on this big giant church up on the hill, you know. I was like, "Wow." So, yeah, you know, but you got to keep your head on a swivel no matter what, you know, when you're traveling out here, everybody.
So, cuz we're in some we're we're in some dangerous times right now.
>> Yeah, we got to wrap it up. But somebody in the chat said they have to keep their heads on the swivel when they're around black people.
>> I don't think so. I don't know why that you know.
>> That's why Randy been blocked. He be doing too much. That's why everybody telling his ass off in the in the chat.
>> Oh, you're blocking.
>> Yeah, because nobody Why? Why? But why?
Because when historically, when had black people uh been violent towards white people, you know? I I I had I had um uh white friend that used to hang with me and we used to be around all black people. We never beat his ass. He never end up missing. Like I don't understand why white people think we're so violent.
Like we're not historically I mean historically we're not violent people.
>> We're not violent people. We're actually more dangerous to each other right now than we are to uh a white person. You know, the chances of me being killed uh by somebody look like me is greater than me being killed by a white person.
Unfortunat I do know that, you know, uh but a white person, the chances of of him being harmed is by another white person than a black person.
I say this on the show all the time, man. My my in my part-time when when this show's over, I'm turning on crime TV. I love watching uh SNAP, Prime TV, Dayline ABC.
>> Scary though. And >> all those shows, they're real life detective shows that is based on real life crimes. All these shows, and I binge watch them all the time, Tiffany and Carl. 99% of these shows are white people that have killed other white people. Some husband was having an affair on his wife, didn't want to get a divorce cuz he wanted to give half of his money up, so he put some aic in her damn oatmeal. All these shows, you know, uh uh they have one called uh Buried in the yard, you know, uh um all these shows. And I I watch them all the time, you Every once a while you see a black person on there, a black family, somebody that kills somebody, but most of them >> are they all real life stories, but then most of them are based on white people that kill white people.
And so I don't know how people are so afraid of us.
Well, we're not killing white people uh uh in the masses. We really aren't. You know, um, you know, most of the mass shooters that this country have seen, 99% of the mass shooters have been white young white boys, right? that to shut up schools, movie theaters, shopping centers, churches, mosque, you know, all these, you know, uh, uh, synagogs, you know, concerts, nightclubs.
99 these mass shootings, and we've had hundreds and hundreds of them in this country have been at the hands, college campuses, they all been at the hands of young white men, you know. So this guy who's afraid to be around us, he better watch his ass next time he walk in Walmart cuz he he he got a better chance of getting shot walking into a Walmart uh in his neighborhood uh by another white by a white person than than a brother kicking his ass. He might get his ass kicked on the basketball court.
Uh yeah, I mean if they know, but like I said the um Dick Tols, the guy who called in the last time or white supremacist friend, he's asking we're we're we're wrapping up and EVEN IF HE >> OH, NO. OH, HELL NO. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
>> I don't want it. I don't have time for lucky I stayed this long. Yeah.
>> No, no, no, no, no.
>> We dude, you came on and you told nothing but lies and we debunked all your lies. So, you know, we not we we're not gonna, you know, we don't need the lies. You know, this you might believe what you're saying, but it's all lies.
>> I can't deal with no program people. A lot of these people are programmed to believe what they want to believe, and they don't want to believe in the truth.
They see what they see. We see and feel what we feel. And that's another thing that bothered me when you got white people telling us how to feel.
>> Yeah.
>> Or what we should feel or what we should tolerate or what we should say yes and no to. No. No. No. No. No. I'm not doing it. I'm sorry. I can't deal with him. I don't even like the races that's IN OUR DAMN CHAT. But we need you regardless to what where there's a positive, there's a negative. I want you to say stuff. I want you to let me know certain thing.
Like this one young lady that's in there, Michelle or whatever. She's been putting up stuff that I didn't know about. I didn't know nothing about no zebra killings. And what's so bug is I looked it up, darling. It's only called zebra killings because the cops called it that. You understand what I'm saying?
But I think it was like four or five black men. They were wind up killing some black people or whatever the case may be. I don't know why. I will get into it. See, I like stuff like that cuz we like to do the history. We like to look things up. You understand? But again, historically, we do not just go into open spaces and SAY BOW BOW BOW TO WHITE PEOPLE. We don't do that. We don't have time for that because we so busy paying bills.
>> Yeah. Uh yeah. Michelle also said 2016 white police officer killed during a Black Lives Matter event. Yeah. But that's not the point. We Here's what we're saying. You cannot get I cannot call up Kevin and say, "Hey, Kevin, can you call up a couple of your boys and let's go to whatever the whitest town is and let's start killing white people."
Absolutely. Across the board, everyone will call me crazy. They might even call the cops. Carl's over there thinking about killing white people. You better go talk to him or, you know, go get him.
But I guarantee if if uh what's his name in the chat? uh Dick Tols if he and some of the other white supremists in this chat if they call up some of their friends right now and say, "Hey, let's plan of to go to whatever to Harlem or wherever uh the Bronx and and just start killing black people." They could absolutely get a group of white men and probably some women to get together, plan, get the ammunition, get everything together, put it in put it in motion and go kill black people. go kill black people. They can do that.
We can't do that.
>> You know what's so interesting is she brought up Black Lives Matter and the cop was uh killed. We don't know if the cop was killed by a black person, but even if the cop was killed by a black person, that guy most likely is in jail.
Uh and that's one you always find one or two cases, you know, cop has a very dangerous job. You know, most more cops uh I'm speculating, but I will do some research. I will guarantee you if you research, more cops have probably been killed by white people than than blacks.
More more white cops have been killed by people that look like them most likely, you know. Um if you do your research, I'll probably be correct. And um and and and and then the summer of 2020, the uh uh the Black Lives Li protest, that was all spun off because of a of a racist cop who murdered a black man on camera by kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes.
You know, we we can't we we can go talk about the black the white police officer that unfortunately lost his life in the line of duty, but ignore why all of this was happening. in the first place because Derek Schovin decided to abuse his badge and and put his neck on a guy's knee on his knee on a guy's neck for for for almost nine 10 minutes and suffocating him to death while he cried for his mother. You know, like if that wouldn't have happened, if that guy would have been a good police officer, the white police officer that lost his life wouldn't have lost his life. Cuz summer of 2020 would have never happened if if if Derek Schovin decided to be a good police officer instead of being the [ __ ] that he was.
>> Yeah, I just looked up the Black Lives Matter one that she had mentioned. Um I remember this. This was a um a officer.
He used to be a army. He was in the army and he did shoot at some school because he was sick of THE THE COPS KILLING BLACK PEOPLE. AND HE WENT ON a What we're saying is that we just don't get up and say we're going to just kill somebody just to kill somebody, especially no white person. It has to happen for a reason. Something must have happened for him to trickle trick how you say he snapped and said, "You know what? I'm not doing this [ __ ] no more." You understand what I'm saying?
So, yes, I see. I think his name is Mai Xavier Johnson. He was an army veteran.
>> Yeah. Rest to the cop, man. Any cop, you know, cops lose their lives.
>> Some cops got a hard job, but also, you know, we know that it's some horrible cops out there, too, that is a part of the system. they are a part of the blue gang and they really don't care about a lot of people um especially people of color. And then you have ones that is there because they want to make a change. They want to >> There's horrible black people out here too that that do bad things. There are horrible black people out here that that murder other people. You know, they murder white people, they murder black people, they murder Asian people.
>> You know, we're not saying black people are perfect and don't commit murders. Of course they do.
>> We're not perfect. No human is perfect.
What we're saying on this show, we're not saying black people aren't don't don't murder other people. Of course they do. What we're saying on the show is that they're not racially motiv motivated murders. And if you find one or two or even three out of 250 years of this country, you may find three if you dig.
>> How many?
But there isn't a pattern of black men getting together in a group and taking a white boy up in the woods and hanging him. We don't do it. We haven't done it.
It's not part of what we do. We haven't done it. We We don't do it. It's not our style. We We're We don't We're just going to do it.
>> How many How many murders have the Black Panthers committed? How many white people have the Black Panthers killed?
>> You should hear You should see Michelle there. Michelle trying to find every little bit of INFORMATION THAT A BLACK PERSON DONE DID TO A WHITE PERSON. GIRL, GO WRITE A BOOK.
>> How many I know she's digging. I know she's digging hard, Tiffany. I know.
>> SHE'S DIGGING. IT'S LIKE SHE LIKE, "CHAD, FIND ME. EVERYBODY, PLEASE JUST FIND me so I can talk to these black PEOPLE AND TELL THEM THAT."
>> BUT I'M SAYING, "HOW many how many white people have the Black Panthers?" The Black Panthers was formed and it was known as a hate group. How many white people did they kill? I think it's zero, right?
>> Zero. Now, how many >> how many how many the Cucas clan, right?
A white part. How many black people have they killed, right? Countless.
>> Countless.
>> So, that's that's the point here we're making. We do not have groups. We don't form groups of black people to go commit any kind of murders.
>> You know, >> we don't got time for that. We we really don't. We got so much on our plate to be thinking about trying to unal alive white people. We do not care. But we know that y'all sitting back thinking about how to unal alive us. We know that y'all sitting back having hate on us. WE DON'T EVEN RAISE our children to hate y'all. We raise OUR CHILDREN TO WATCH your damn back.
>> Yeah.
>> There there was no 400 500 black men on the 4th of July walking on National Mall. Uh >> okay. It sure wasn't >> screaming uh black power. Uh, it wasn't >> right. We had a million man. We had a million man march. Did we Did was there any hate? Did Did Faracan talk about hating black white people at that mark?
>> Nope.
>> You know, it was just just, you know, we didn't march. We didn't scream, you know. You know, uh, we're taking back our country. What does that even mean?
Like we're taking back our country.
Like, >> they need to give that country back to them Indians. They want to TAKE IT BACK COUNTRY. Y'ALL CAME OVER here and moved them Indians out, bought some black negroes there to work for y'all while we built this country. You was out of your goddamn mind. You know, people be doing too much. But we want to say thank you all for chiming in tonight. Thank you all in the chat. We have many that's in the chat. I know it's my chat is popping. So, I want to say thank you to all that's in there. Wait a minute. It's one guy that's in there that's been doing his thing. Where he at? He been putting Michelle TC Mitchell.
>> Shout out to TC Mitchell 7.
>> TC Mitchell. Hey baby, how you doing?
TC.
>> No, it's tough. Tell your friends about us because as you can see, we need some help over here with all these how I don't know how these uh how these Nazis find us. But they're out there.
>> They find us, man.
>> No, we can't again. I'm um we have a young man. What's his name? Farmer Floyd. No, we do not tell our children that white people hold them back. We tell them that the system holds them back. And it's been documented. They talked about red lining and all of that.
So all of this stuff that we're talking about, we're not making up. And only thing you have to do is Google. Okay, that's it. Google, smoogle, and you can find out. And we have to raise our children to make sure they are on point because we know too many people out there hate us. And it's sad because we didn't do nothing to y'all but build this country and deal with y'all [ __ ] all these years.
>> And we started this show talking about a black billionaire. So ain't nobody being held back. We doing okay in the United States of America.
>> Yes, we are. Thank you so much again.
Shout out to TJ. Who else? We want to give a shout out before we leave because I'm tired.
>> Shout out to everybody watching.
>> Regulars. We want to say thank you to our regulars. Let me tell you something.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. We appreciate even the haters. Even the uh >> Yes, we need y'all. That's how the world go around. You need your haters.
>> At least we get to know how the other side thinks, you know. So, uh we're good.
>> Crazy.
Um, you know what? Let me before we go, I want to show a couple of black businesses because this I want this to be part of our show every Sunday. So, I'm going to give a little showcase to a couple of black businesses. So, if you're ever in the area and you can support these businesses, uh, how do you guys feel about people saying black business? You think they should leave it in there or they should take it out? You think it's a they lose customers if they say, "I'm a black business owner."
Um, >> um, I don't know, man. That's a good question, Carl. It's a good question. I think, uh, you say it's a black business because you want black people to shop there because you have something >> special to own to offer them. But are most black businesses just catering to black people? Like, if you have a black cupcake company uh uh, in Manhattan and it's blackowned, you don't just want black customers. You want everybody to come into that cupcake sh into that pastry shop and and and buy some pastries and cupcakes, right? So, it might be blackowned, but you are just a black person to >> everybody.
>> Yeah. You try to sell to everybody. When you you you own a a Jamaican restaurant, you're you're black, but you you don't mind if white people come and eat your Jamaican food, you know, and and so any black business, if you sell soaps or whatever, if you do black business, you still uh, you know, want to uh everybody to buy your business. Don't care who they are. Money's green.
>> Money's green.
>> Brother's take on it.
>> Take that blackowned business [ __ ] out of your bio, out of your business, out of um anything where your business is associated and it also says blackowned.
Take that [ __ ] out. Remove it completely.
>> Not people shouldn't have to hide who they are just to make others feel comfortable. I mean, [ __ ] you go to many other businesses and uh they always celebrating their culture. in several business that I go to, man, you go in there, you hear the music playing or it's in the decor or they even sharing their tradition with you and it's part of the whole experience and people love that, right? Uh it's the authenticity of the whole thing. When I go to a Mexican restaurant or an Italian restaurant or something like that, man, I want the whole vibe, the whole experience. I want to go to hear their music. So why being black should be something that we should hide from our identity to anyone.
Especially if you providing a great service or quality product and you're treating people good, that's some [ __ ] you should be proud of, right? Being black is being proud. I mean, we got a tremendous influence across the whole world. Whether it's from music to sports to entertainment to fashion and even slang, we got a tremendous influence in the world. So no man, if you provide a great product or quality service and you treating people well, you should definitely be proud of who you are. I mean, again, many others uh say what kind of business they are, whether it's veteranowned, familyowned, uh womenowned, LGBTQowned, it doesn't matter, man. You know, people are proud of who they are, and we should be proud as well, man. You have a good business, you give a good product, give quality service, man. You rep your [ __ ] You should see this guy named SM in there. He said negroes need to know they place.
That's why Y'ALL NEED TO KNOW YOUR PLACE. GET THE HELL OUT MY DAMN CHAT.
Matter of fact, you're about to be blocked.
>> But I mean, Kev, we got Jewish memorial hospitals all over this country. I There's a Jewish memorial hospital, you know.
>> Right. Right. and and you and you have well you have all sorts of business like your brother said all sorts of businesses nobody hide their their Italian restaurant is an Italian restaurant when you go in there the service most likely going to be Italian you go to a Japanese restaurant and you go in and you got a black guy uh cooking your food at the uh you know those tables where they cook in front of you at them Japanese kabukchi places where you sitting there eating cook in front of you want a Japanese guy to come over and cook in front of you you know some brother of afro come over and cooking in front of you be like, "Come on, man. I'm in a Japanese restaurant. What's going on?" So, yeah, they don't hide their identity and so we shouldn't hide our identity. But we live in a country where, you know, sometimes it could hurt you when you say black business, you know, from from your own people cuz sometimes black people don't like to shop at black businesses. Let's keep it real.
>> Yeah.
>> You know.
>> Yeah. Because again, we love to support our black businesses, but I also say to my black businesses, please be on point with your black business. You understand? Have proper management. When you have proper management, you have a successful business. And always think about your clients because when you think about your clients, they're the one that's going to make sure you stay paid. Even if they don't like YOUR PRODUCT, IF THEY LIKE YOUR PERSONALITY, THEY'RE GOING TO STILL PAY you and please support you. So again, black people, I love it that we are owning our own businesses, but make sure your businesses is on point and nobody can write about your ass in the Yelp section.
>> All right, recharge it.
>> Here's a This is a dental business. It's blackowned. It's in uh it's in uh Georgia, actually. It's called East Side Dental. And they're at and I had to I had to Google search all this information. These people put these businesses on social media and they don't tell you where they are at all, which is crazy. Like, I don't know why you putting this stuff on social. They don't say nothing. I had to go Google this. But anyway, East Side Dental is owned by two brothers. Uh 66 6500 Sugarloaf Parkway, Duth, Georgia. And the phone number is 77023230000.
770230.
I'm sorry. 770-232 30000. So if you're in Georgia and you're close to 6,500 Sugarloaf Parkway in Duth, Georgia, go to the East Side Dental and they offer I think they offer free cleanings too, they said. But anyway, here's a a little video on the East Side Dental.
>> Two friends have opened a blackowned affordable dentist practice. They are open 7 days a week and they even offer free cleanings.
East Side Dental 6500 Sugaralo Parkway, Duth Georgia 770232 3000. So if you're black or white or Chinese, but we have to highlight the fact that they're black because why?
This is America.
Um to you know um so anyway, we're going to wrap it up.
I want to thank everyone for joining the chat. I want to thank everyone who liked and shared our show. Uh please again like, share, subscribe to our channel.
And uh um I want to shout out the newbies and to the uh people who have hung with us the entire time. Scooby-Doo Scooby. Yes, I know Scooby. Gary Soers, a very famous sportsman from Barbados, passed away. He was 89 years old. He was I would say he would be like the Babe Ruth what Babe Ruth was to baseball in America. He was a comparison to cricket in the Caribbean and he was the top of his game and he passed away and Scooby's been hitting me up in the chat to mention his name. So I'm mentioning his name. His name was Gary Soers and Tiffany just so you know he wanted nothing to do with black women. Not knocking the brother. He that's who he was. He and he made it kn he he married a white woman. He divorced and married and he black women were chasing him. They wanted to be with him, but he's like, "Nope." He was uh but >> he like white.
>> Everyone had a has a preference. Uh Kevin, I think Kevin's phone died.
Um not blackowned. It's owned by a respectful human.
Okay.
>> All right.
>> All right. And so some person is saying not not to say black own, but it's own.
But I mean, you see it says right there Chinese restaurant. It doesn't say restaurant.
>> It says Italian restaurant. It says a Greek restaurant.
>> Yeah, they can do it. But you WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING? THEY DON'T WANT US TO DO IT, RIGHT? THEY DON'T WANT US to put the black on there.
>> Right.
>> You understand what I'm saying? Well, should we say ethnic owners?
I was just saying like Jewish Memorial Hospital.
>> Yeah, we got to make THEM FEEL COMFORTABLE. THAT'S A WHITE PERSON IN THE chat that we they want to feel comfortable. They don't want TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE BY BLACKOWNED BUSINESS.
>> WELL, we do. That's just the way the world is, Tiff.
>> Yeah.
>> All right, Tiffany. Uh before we go, did you learn or want to share anything?
Well, I learned that, you know, I don't want to fight with you, Carl, no more over Jay-Z. All right. You and Kev, I don't want to fight with y'all no more about Jay-Z. I'm done. Okay.
>> I love Jay-Z and I love y'all. Okay. Um, also, you know, again, we talked about our people. You know, again, the Black Therapy Show, as you see, is called the Black Therapy Show. We are here as people talking about what we go through as black people. I ain't going to say n um the n word negroes. Okay, now maybe y'all feel comfortable with negroes.
THIS IS WHAT NEGROES go through. But um this is what we go through every day, you know, and we we talk about it. This is our therapy. So, please don't think that this is something that we're hating on white people or we we are starting racism or we are racist. No, we're far from it. We're just having the conversation that is going on today, especially dealing with black Americans.
We appreciate every single one of y'all that do chime in, watch us, and at least, you know, let us know how you feel because we need to have these conversations. Also, it's sad that we do have to have these conversations with our people, black people, about white supremacy and racism. This is what's going on in our world. Maybe not in your white ass world or your Asian world or whatever culture you from, not your world, but in black world. This is what we go through. So, this is why we're talking about it. and you cannot tell us, we can't talk about it or we cannot communicate about it. If you don't like it, use that pointer finger and scroll up. Okay? You can scroll up or you can move OUT AND GO TO SOMETHING ELSE. You understand? Cuz it's not going to hurt you. Okay? Um please black young people, you know, if y'all watching, please be aware. Just don't be the only black person in the group. Yeah, it could be cool, but the [ __ ] is dangerous. To me, it's dangerous. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? I DON'T trust nobody. Okay. So, again, have the conversations with your children, white people. We are not marching and going out there to tell y'all what to do. Y'all know what y'all supposed to do. Y'all go out there and y'all talk to y'all family and friends about racism, hate, and treating other people disgusting. Y'all need to talk about that and do your history. Again, please make sure y'all like and subscribe and um share this content, you know. And shout out to my family. I love y'all very much. I appreciate y'all. Did anybody pass away this week? We good, Kev? Because me and Kev, we know all the people that pass.
>> Oh, well, uh I think the gentleman, I can't think of his name right now, but >> Oh, WAS THE GUY FROM UM 227 How Williams passed away from 227. Shout out to How Williams. Uh uh 227 Sanford's son. He was a cop on Sanford's son. 227.
How Williams passed away. I think he was 90 years old, lived a long life. Um, also the uh the guy who uh created I don't know if we did this last week, Tiff, but the guy who created the hair products, Johnson and Johnson, he passed away, too.
>> Yeah. Soft Sheen and all of them.
>> Yeah. I got his book, TOO. I HAVE TO read it. I made sure I bought it. So, but I made sure I bought it. He wound up dying.
>> Have you guys seen the video of the videos of Brandy? And people are asking, "What is she okay? Is Brandy okay?"
>> I seen it online.
>> I saw it.
>> Yeah, she look good. get into it.
>> Hey, people get people get old, you know. We want our celebrities always look people with their celebrities look like they always look and they're not going to look. We're going to get old and some wrinkles and lose some weight and gain some weight and that's all. She just she's a normal human being like everybody else and she's getting old and she lost some weight. I don't think nothing's wrong, but everybody was clowning.
>> And don't forget Ozimpic, too, cuz you have a lot of people out there with Oimpic. They got that Ompic look and she could be We don't know if she's sick or she's not feeling well. She could not be eating. But again, we send prayers out to her. Did you hear that? Kiki Wyatt, I don't know if y'all know her. She's a singer.
>> She's pregnant with her 14th child.
Like, my god. Jesus. Wait. A vagina that needs a caution tape on it.
>> Jeez.
>> She got Catherine Jackson beat at this point.
>> Word. Word. That vagina is like and she's butt crazy.
All right. Uh, before I go to you, Kev, somebody said, "Let a channel say white owned and support it and let's see all hell break loose." Dude, I mean that that >> that's a whole another show. That's a whole another show. But real quickly, >> you have to say white all >> they've had they've had all of that all they've had the reason there's a Howard University because black people couldn't go to white schools. The reason there's HBU because black people couldn't go to white school white schools. The reason uh is is that you have uh all black things is because we weren't allowed to be on certain networks. Uh we talked about uh we did a show on black music month a few uh last month. Uh we talked about Sammy Davis Jr. Uh he couldn't even uh stay in the hotel that he was performing in with the Rat Pack.
>> They had to go through the back door.
>> They had to go through the back door. He couldn't come through the front door. He had to go through the back door. He couldn't eat in the restaurant. He couldn't go. He couldn't even the hotel he was staying in Vegas. He weren't allowed to go into the swimming pool because he because of his skin color.
This wasn't like a 100 years ago. This is in the 60s. He weren't allowed to go into the swimming pool with white people. He weren't allowed to come through the front door white people, but they bought tickets to watch him sing.
You understand? So, let's not be naive.
Like, yeah. Um, the reason we had this stuff, uh, BET, uh, uh, which was black own at one point, BET, uh, is because MTV wouldn't play black artists. MTV back in the 80s was a huge thing. Music music videos was huge. And, um, David Bowie, they wouldn't play Michael Jackson, they wouldn't play Prince, they wouldn't play any black artist on MTV.
And David Buoie uh, went to uh, Bowie, I think it's his name, right? He went to the executive. He says, "If y'all don't put Michael Jackson on, then don't play my music." And then they played Michael Jackson music videos. And he ended up making this station billions of dollars because Michael Jackson became a phenomenon. And people tuned into that MTV just to see Michael Jackson for decades, you know, and that made the station, their racism almost cost them billions of dollars. They didn't want to play black artists. But then Tina Turner uh uh um and and and um Michael Jackson and Prince became some of the most popular artists that would be on that channel, you know. So that's why we had the Negro League. Why we had the Negro League in baseball? Because black men weren't allowed to play in the major leagues. But then once the white people started seeing that the black baseball teams uh stadiums were packed and they saw how great those players were, they said, "Oh, let them come play with us."
So then they made Jackie Robinson come over to the major leagues which followed more black players start coming over and then that killed the Negro League from being in existence. So that's why we have these things. So yeah, uh ABC has always been white. NBC's always been white, you know. CBS has always been white, you know. Uh they didn't have black shows. Uh the Jeffersons and Good Times, those shows came on in the 70s, you know. But before that, were there any black shows? Nope.
How many black shows have you seen on TV that was just all black cast back in the 70s and even the 80s, you know? So, come on, man. Stop that. You really think that those people don't know all that stuff you just said, Kev? You think that? You really think they could be born in America and not know? Is that possible?
>> It is possible cuz they don't understand that black people couldn't go to Harvard, you know. So, we had to we had to put our own colleges together, you know. Uh I don't Maybe they don't know, Carl. Maybe they don't know, you know.
They I think they do know that black people couldn't go into restaurants, had to drink from different water fountains and had to sit on the back of the bus, they couldn't sit on the front of the bus, you know. Um there was a famous um thing where uh motel artists back in were so big back in the 60s, but when they performed at at nightclubs or theaters or whatever, there was sections, the black section and the white section because white people didn't want to sit and watch these black artists with with black people. Like you want to go see the Temptations, but you don't want to sit with black people to watch their Temptations perform. It's this [ __ ] need to be studied. It's a dumb.
>> You want to give a shout out to Pippy?
She mentioned the Ed Sullivan show and Ed Sullivan was one of the um uh um uh he's a what do you call him? Like a TV guy that put so many black >> black artists on Yes.
>> on on the map. And this is for my grandmother, you know, during her time.
Shout out to Ed that they put on so many black artists. So, yes, we give a shout out to Mr. >> Oh, by the way, I think Netflix did a special on documentary.
>> Documentary on Ed Sullivan. I haven't watched it yet, but yeah, I heard it was very good. It's great. You should watch that call. I might watch it tonight.
Y'all want to see it? Please watch it.
the Ed Sullivan documentary talking about how he opened up doors for black artists and bringing them on their platform. It was definitely a good um shot.
>> I'mma check that out. Yes. Thank you, Tim. Yeah. So, I mean that's all the reason why Carl, they they may not know, you know, they don't know the age of this person, you know, and and for him to say something ignorant like that, like if there's a all white to be hell to break loose, like really? Okay.
>> All right. Was that your uh uh end the show uh wrap-up, Kev, or do you have >> I just want to say on the Jay-Z thing, um um Jay-Z is sporting the afro right now. Looks good.
>> The afro's gone.
>> The afro's gone.
>> Oh, so you MUST KEEP UP. YOU OVER THERE POPPING [ __ ] ABOUT TO DAG ON FREESTYLE AND YOU DIDN'T NOTICE THAT JAY BEYONCE SHAVED HIS HAIR off in the Yankee stadium.
>> No, because he had a baseball cap. He had a baseball cap, Tiff. He had a baseball cap on. He had a Yankee cap on.
So that's why I didn't know.
>> He He cut it. He cut it. It's >> okay. I thought he made it pated down cuz he had his Yankee cap on. Okay. So he cut it off.
>> He They PUT IT THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF his concert. They showed Beyonce shaving his hair off in the in the in the stadium.
>> I I I I boycotted all of that. My bad.
>> Yeah. All right. Well, I love I gotta take my my auntie downstairs. I love y'all.
>> All right. Bye. You got ME GOT ME HERE LONG CALL. YOU think you slick long. I love y'all. Bye bye.
>> Love you too. All right. Peace and love everybody. See y'all next week.
>> All right. We got to wrap it up again. I want to thank everyone. Shout out to all the people in our chat. Please like, share, subscribe. Pippy. Uh please like and share. Tell all your friends about us. uh TC Mitchell, you know, let's start getting some brothers and sisters up in in uh in the chat and on the show because uh these YT people are are coming for us as they say. They're, you know, >> check uh Tiber back on too, man.
>> He's doing his own thing right now. But yeah, he's busy doing his own thing, but we get him to come back on, man. Yeah, >> I sent him a couple of text messages. I don't know if he changed his phone or what, but I'll try again.
>> Okay, man. Where's our boy information, man? He didn't vanish like David Copperfield. He ain't seen him in a m either, man. So, >> yeah. All right, everybody. We love you.
>> All right, bro. Peace and love, information, man. Check in with us, man.
All right.
>> All right, everybody.
>> All right. Bye.
>> Bye. See y'all next week.
>> Break away from the chains. We helping you. The black therapy show. You be in a safe space dealing with the black drama.
We are hacking and inspecting all our baggage and drama. Cuz we got to unite.
No more killing each other. It's time to see a new future for my sisters and brothers. You know, Kevin calling Tiffany. You'll have an epiphany. We'll give you everything you need to handle the enemy. We giving you empathy. We won't challenge you mentally. The right conversation so you grow exponentially.
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