Lila Rose DESTROYS Pro Abortion Students Talking Points!

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[00:00:00]Criminal penalties. Do you want people to be thrown in jail if your life gets >> I don't want anyone to go to jail for killing one day old zygote me. I think that'd be totally fine.

[00:00:07]>> So you would have been fine if you had been killed pre-birth.

[00:00:10]>> Uh yeah. Yeah. That's sad. I'm glad you're alive.

[00:00:13]>> Well, I'm also glad I'm alive, but frankly I don't think we can speak on the person of a zygote where we don't know the potential of what they're actually going to be and it's totally fine to get rid of.

[00:00:21]>> Well, you can make that argument about a newborn and I don't I don't buy it if you're a human.

[00:00:25]>> I know. think they have thought and pain and you have this like, you know, video where everyone's emotionally reacting to a baby getting shredded, but they can't feel that and they can't think about it and I just don't care. Not not in reality. Not the way that you treat it.

[00:00:35]>> Here's the thing. If you don't know what something is, let's say there's something that's in a bush. Imagine with me for a minute, you hear a rustling in a bush. You're out hunting. I don't know. Do you hunt? I don't know if you hunt. I don't hunt.

[00:00:44]>> If it's a fetus, I'm taking the shot.

[00:00:46]I'll say that.

[00:00:47]>> There's a quote from Joe Biden that I really like. And Joe Biden once said, "Oh, I'm serious. I'm serious." Oh, okay.

[00:00:53]>> What did he say? I like donuts. What was that one?

[00:00:55]>> That's right. Joe, no. A long time ago, back in the Obama days, right, God bless Joe Biden once said, uh, I think abortion should be safe, legal, and >> that was Hillary Clinton, my friends.

[00:01:06]>> Okay. Well, was he quoting him?

[00:01:07]>> I mean, maybe he said it, too, but that that was coined by Hillary.

[00:01:11]>> Okay. Well, he might have been quoting her, but I'm going to give Biden credit cuz I like him more. So, >> sure.

[00:01:15]>> Yeah.

[00:01:15]>> What's up, YouTube? Hope you guys are feeling good. Today, guys, we're back again with a new video. Today we're going to be checking out Leela Rose challenges students on abortion. This is going to be good. This is going to be amazing and in depth.

[00:01:31]You're going to love this and I would love to share this video out with you guys. Let's get right into today's video. Guys, >> I had a question about religion, but I'll start with abortion cuz I was interested in your sled analogy. You said, "Oh, well a zygote, it's small.

[00:01:44]That doesn't determine its worth. You know, we value short people, tall people." Um, I think if a zygote was 67, I I still wouldn't care. Uh, I would still be okay with getting rid of it.

[00:01:53]So, what actually is the value of like a single cell organism? Why is that something that I should consider murder when we're getting rid of it?

[00:02:01]>> Because the only difference between that tiny tiny human life and you is time and nourishment. [clears throat] >> Um, >> the opportunity to develop, >> right? But that's still a really big difference. It doesn't have hands. It can't feel pain. It doesn't have thoughts. I mean, it's completely different in every way, shape, or >> hands. Do they not have value? Uh, no.

[00:02:17]But if it doesn't have hands, the brain or can feel pain, can't experience thought, and is a single cell organism, that it doesn't really have a lot.

[00:02:24]>> If someone has a condition where they can't feel pain, >> you keep saying someone cuz you saying personhood, right? Personhood is any human life. But can you really look at a single cell and say that's a person?

[00:02:33]>> Yes, 100%.

[00:02:34]>> In what capacity is it a person like me and you?

[00:02:36]>> I I I would say it's a person as much as you and me because how you're familiar with the law of biogenesis?

[00:02:42]>> I'm not. The law of biogenesis says that if there is a offspring that is of the same species as a mother, if there's a offspring of a mother and a father, then they are the same species. Okay. And they are >> I didn't say it wasn't a human life. I'm asking you why is it a person?

[00:02:55]>> So it is a human life in your view.

[00:02:56]>> Oh yeah, of course.

[00:02:57]>> So you're saying so which which human lives are are persons in your view?

[00:03:01]>> Um I think personhood comes from consciousness. It comes from a personality that develops over time. So, it's really hard for me to look at something that has zero capacity to do anything a human born or even weeks prior to being born can do and say that's a person.

[00:03:15]>> So, you're saying that in order to be a person, you need to be conscious or have consciousness.

[00:03:22]>> The capacity for consciousness at least the capacity for thought, the capacity for pain, the capacity for a lot of things that a zygote simply doesn't have.

[00:03:29]>> Well, let's explore that more because your argument is that if you don't meet the standard that you're trying to define here, then it's okay for someone to kill you. Well, I don't think you're killing, but yeah, pretty much. Yeah, >> you can be aborted. You can be killed if you don't have the standard. So, it's very important if you're going to argue for some people to be killed, that it's okay to kill them, you need to be crystal clear about who these people are and the why it's okay to kill them.

[00:03:50]>> Okay.

[00:03:50]>> So, you've kind of thrown out well consciousness, capacity for pain, different standards. Give me the definition of a person.

[00:03:58]>> Well, that's what I'm asking you cuz your definition person is all human life. My definition of person is if you are a human life, >> then you are a person. That's my definition. What's yours?

[00:04:08]>> If you walked up and there was like a zygote in a petri dish, you'd be like, "Oh, that's that's a person. That's Jeff."

[00:04:12]>> Yes. That's just right here. Sometimes they've been named, but if even if they're not named, even if a child's born nameless, they're still a person.

[00:04:19]Yes.

[00:04:20]>> What What do you when you are killing this in your capacity, what you call it?

[00:04:23]What are you getting rid of? What is the harm being done?

[00:04:26]>> You're destroying a an innocent human life. And that's always wrong. This guy is very >> So I'm curious about for you to tell me because you're the one making the argument that abortion is okay in some cases because they're not persons. So I want you to tell me what's a person.

[00:04:37]>> Um I don't know if I have a very specific definition of person but I can just because I if I'm not following a continuum fallacy I can still look at something and say that's definitely not a person. I can say that speaker is not a person. And just because I don't have a definition I can still look at things and say that is not one. And I can look at a single cell organism and in every capacity it's not a person. I have no problem with that being aborted. If your position is that it's okay to kill non-person humans, but you can't define a person, then don't you think that's a little bit dangerous?

[00:05:07]>> Uh, it could be if you were getting on some cusp and you're like, "Oh, well, you're treading over the 24 weeks is consciousness. 25 weeks is okay."

[00:05:14]>> So, is that your line? 24 weeks cuz you haven't stated that yet. Is that your line?

[00:05:17]>> I think I'm definitely okay with up to two weeks when it's still zygote stage.

[00:05:20]How about that?

[00:05:21]>> So, what about 3 weeks?

[00:05:22]>> Well, why are you pushing past that? You don't think it's okay, right?

[00:05:24]>> I'm trying. I told you. I believe >> let's just say that's my hard line. My my hard line is one day. Let's for the sake of argument. My hard line is one day.

[00:05:31]>> So you're saying that abortion is okay at one day but not two days.

[00:05:34]>> Sure. Let's just say because I don't think it's a person, right?

[00:05:37]>> Why?

[00:05:38]>> Why? Because it has no uh moral value to me. It doesn't have consciousness. It doesn't have pain. It doesn't have anything that I would consider something worth preserving.

[00:05:45]>> If somebody is born and they're missing all of their brain except their brain stem and they don't have consciousness the way virtually all of newborns have really.

[00:05:55]>> Yeah. If they don't have the capacity for thought, I don't care.

[00:05:57]>> So, so you would say people with severe intellectual disabilities should be put in dumpsters.

[00:06:01]>> Wait, hold on. You said they couldn't think. If they have an intellectual disability, that's totally an example like baby Jax, he was missing his brain except for his brain stem.

[00:06:09]>> Is this the person who couldn't exhibit any thoughts, right? That could only there was function.

[00:06:15]>> I don't care what his parents believe.

[00:06:16]This is what medical science would have thrown baby jacks in the dumpster.

[00:06:18]>> I don't think baby Jack was even a baby.

[00:06:20]I think it was a husk, a human shell with no thought. There was nothing there to value in the same way as >> your brain has to be there for you to consider >> enough to consider enough for them to make consciousness and you couldn't do it.

[00:06:30]>> How do you define consciousness?

[00:06:31]>> If there's any response, if there's any brain activity that you could exhibit and baby Jack >> saying if there's no brain activity then they're not then they're not persons.

[00:06:39]>> Um yeah, that's a pretty good >> So did you know that there there is no there have been no brain activity determined at different times and then brain activity comes back. Do you know that >> that's possible?

[00:06:47]>> Like like people can go into comas or be dead. Yeah. But there's a previous there's a pre there's a previous consciousness to speak with.

[00:06:53]>> So now you're changing the definition.

[00:06:54]You're not saying it's point consciousness. You're saying they had to have it previous at some point.

[00:06:58]>> Well, of course. Yeah. I mean, if you have a zygote, which has no previous thing, obviously it has no worth. It has no thoughts. And then if you have something that had consciousness and went to sleep or lost some sort of brain activity, but then it came back. There's clearly something there that you're valuing. No.

[00:07:11]>> So I don't think that you are only your brain or your body. I think you're also your soul.

[00:07:14]>> Yeah. I mean, you believe in God. You believe in soul. You believe in a lot of things that >> I think there's tons of scientific evidence for the soul. Have are you familiar with near-death experiences?

[00:07:22]>> Yes.

[00:07:23]>> Okay. And your experience of you're familiar with out of body experiences where the brain is basically shut down.

[00:07:27]They're having a death experience.

[00:07:28]There's no brain activity and then they're outside of their body and they can see and this has been tested.

[00:07:32]There's thousands of these stories and the due respect I I don't care. I just don't care. Like this is this well no because this is you're extrapolating and projecting a religion onto a scientific >> situations. What happens in these stories is that people have a sensation of brain activity. They're in a coma and they are outside of their body and they can see what's happening. And later on when they come back to life, they they report what the hospital looked like, what it looked like outside, what was happening in the room. Even though their body was not operating, right? Their soul in a mysterious way was operating because you are not just your body, you are also your soul.

[00:08:08]>> Okay, that's cool. And so if you're >> That's a very fun story. I I don't believe in that.

[00:08:12]And if you have if you have a purely can we talk about reality for a second though?

[00:08:15]>> Well, that's what I'm talking about. You talk about I'm rejecting your material.

[00:08:19]No, I'm rejecting your stories because you're project you're project you're projecting mysticism onto reality because that makes you feel comfortable and that's fine. I appreciate part of reality.

[00:08:27]>> Sure. Okay.

[00:08:28]>> There are things that cannot be explained. So, let's talk about let's talk about reality one more time. Do you think that >> you agree that there are some things that cannot be explained like >> Yes. But I but I don't just fill in God because I don't have a better answer for that because I actually have to prove these things.

[00:08:39]>> I don't want to talk about religion right now. It's so boring. You said earlier you did.

[00:08:42]>> Well, I have a question about your religion. I don't want to talk about whether or not God exists, but real quick, do you think that someone should go to jail for getting rid of a zygote at one day?

[00:08:49]>> I think that anytime Yeah. Whether it's a zygote or anything else, yeah, you should be held accountable. Now, what that looks like depends >> No, wait. Just to be clear, you think they should go to jail for lifees. They they aborted they aborted their one day fetus. They should go to jail for life, right?

[00:09:03]>> There should be penalties. Yes.

[00:09:04]>> Okay. So, we should just be locking up millions of women if they at all.

[00:09:07]>> I don't think that. Wait, why not?

[00:09:08]>> Because I think that >> You think it's murder, right?

[00:09:10]>> No. Let me explain.

[00:09:11]>> No, you just said it was murder for like 20 minutes. Come on.

[00:09:13]>> Let me finish. Okay, go ahead.

[00:09:14]>> I think that if you make abortion illegal, >> there will be fewer people that have them. And this is proven, >> of course, >> in countries that make abortion illegal.

[00:09:23]And I think that the law definitely impacts behavior. And I don't want anyone to go to jail. I don't want anyone to go to jail. But if you willfully and intentionally, and those things have to be proven, choose to kill a child, whether they're born or unborn, whether you're a man or a woman, by the way, because there are men who coers abortions, then yes, you should be held >> or transmen. I agree. That's very brave.

[00:09:45]Trans. I I appreciate that you're freaking out for the pregnant trans men of Berkeley.

[00:09:49]>> Whatever you want to call yourself, if you intentionally kill an innocent human life, I think there should be criminal penalties.

[00:09:54]>> Okay. I think that's an insane society to live in, but >> Well, that's a real for your life. We live that way for you. Why do you want to take that away for the rights of babies?

[00:10:03]>> Wait, what? No, I don't want to take your life. They get criminal penalties.

[00:10:07]Do you want people to be thrown in jail if your life get >> I don't want anyone to go to jail for killing one day old zygote me? I think that'd be totally fine.

[00:10:14]>> So, you would have been fine if you had been killed pre-birth.

[00:10:16]>> Uh, yeah.

[00:10:18]I'm glad you're alive. Well, I'm also glad I'm alive, but [laughter] frankly, I don't think we can speak on the personhood of a zygote where we don't know the potential of what they're actually going to be, and it's totally fine to get rid of. Well, you can make that argument about a newborn and I don't I don't buy it if you're a human.

[00:10:31]>> I know. I think they have thought and pain and you have this like, you know, video where everyone's emotionally reacting to a baby getting shredded, but they can't feel that and they can't think about it and I just don't care.

[00:10:39]Like, it's frankly something you're not causing actually direct harm to anything at that point.

[00:10:43]>> You've thrown out a lot of these different um you know, I always call them very arbitrary standards for determining personhood and protecting protection from lethal violence. Well, you can call it arbitrary, but you can look at a fully formed human being and a single cell, which you could you yourself with your own eyes could not distinguish from any other type of cell and say, "Yeah, those are both people, even if you didn't know it was a human cell." So, I think yours is a little more arbitrary than mine.

[00:11:05]>> Well, you haven't even been able to note when this arbitrary line is when it would be okay for somebody to be killed. Yeah, but your own definition doesn't actually explore personhood to the same extent to have a consistent way don't right you can say hey a single cell organism that's a person but you yourself can't distinguish between that single cell and any other type of single cell that looks exactly the same to you have to know that it's a human to be able to call it a person but materially that thing is not a person to you in any way shape or form the way you interact with a person in real life. So it's absolutely a person materially but a human materially but >> not not in reality not the way that you treat it. Here's the thing. If you don't know what something is, let's say there's something that's in a bush.

[00:11:45]Imagine with me for a minute. You hear a rustling in a bush. You're out hunting.

[00:11:48]I don't know. Do you hunt? I don't know if you hunt. I don't hunt.

[00:11:50]>> If it's a fetus, I'm taking the shot.

[00:11:51]I'll say that.

[00:11:52]>> So, if you hear something rustling in the bush, but you don't know what it is.

[00:11:56]>> Yeah.

[00:11:57]>> Are you okay shooting?

[00:11:59]>> Um, I mean, if I life is not in present danger, probably not. No. But you, let's say there's humans that may have been around, would you consider a pause before shooting because you don't know what it is for sure yet?

[00:12:10]>> Yeah, of course.

[00:12:11]>> Okay, good. Because when you were saying earlier that you don't know exactly the line is, >> why are you saying it's okay then to have abortions when you don't even know where that line is? Better to bear on the side of life and not shoot.

[00:12:21]>> I think that's a really good argument, especially when you get into like ambiguous lines from like 24 weeks to 30 weeks. I can definitely say I can definitely say that my line is at least past the first day and you say that's murder no matter what. I think that's not airing on the side of caution.

[00:12:33]You're looking at something that has no capacity for any sort of personhood in any way. And I can say yeah that's a very easy one to say. I have no moral quality. I will be very happy >> if you've come here today and you said okay I agree with you Laya after the first day I oppose taking that life.

[00:12:51]>> Okay.

[00:12:51]>> Is that where you're at?

[00:12:52]>> I don't think you would be. You think I'm okay? You think I'm okay with murdering so many zygot that are a day?

[00:12:58]Well, it's progress. That's not my line clearly, but obviously you think it's murder. What is your line?

[00:13:02]>> I don't want to discuss that. Actually, can I ask you my religion question?

[00:13:05]>> You are here to support abortion and you won't tell me when you think it's >> I'm here to conver the standards. You don't even have a we'll have because then we'll have a whole conversation about consciousness. I think it's around 20 to 24 weeks. We can talk about that.

[00:13:18]>> So, you're you're you are dooming a whole group of people, humans. to death.

[00:13:23]You're saying that she should get no legal protection. I would shoot into the bush. It doesn't matter. And I think it's around 20 or 22 weeks.

[00:13:30]>> Yes.

[00:13:30]>> Don't you think that's a little concerning that you're okay? No.

[00:13:33]>> With a whole group of people being killed and you just because you think it might be around this line. What if they're 19 weeks old?

[00:13:39]>> Uh, that's fine. Do it.

[00:13:40]>> Why?

[00:13:40]>> Well, because we have to define the line somewhere. You're age the age of consent, right? It's 18.

[00:13:44]>> Not necessarily arbitrary.

[00:13:45]>> Do you think the age of Do you think the age of consent should be 18? Do you think the age of consent should be 18?

[00:13:49]I'm trying to think I'm trying to I'm trying to dig down into your argument here. Do you think the age of consent should be 18?

[00:13:55]>> The age of So this is completely different than what it's called an analogy. I know you No. I I know you understand. I know you understand analogies, but you're trying to get me on like what you can't define. Exactly.

[00:14:05]Think about Can you just answer the question for at least for the TV?

[00:14:08]>> I know you support I know you support Trump, but do you think the age of consent?

[00:14:10]>> I don't actually support Trump, so I don't know where you're getting that.

[00:14:13]>> Do you think the age of consent should be 18? Oh, I'm I'm actually really happy to hear applause for that actually. But do you think the age of consent should be 18?

[00:14:19]>> Do I think the age of You're talking about the consent for what?

[00:14:21]>> For for consensual sex.

[00:14:23]>> Um, I 18 seems a little bit uh I would I would actually >> I mean I in California I think it's it should be 15 or 16. I mean people No, no, no. Statutory rape should be determined by around that time is what I'm saying. So >> Okay. But what's the exact line where you can consent to sex? So, so right now the law in California is if you are even 15 or 16 years old and you are having sexual activity with someone, then that's statutory rape.

[00:14:50]>> Okay. Are you okay with that? Is that your line?

[00:14:51]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:14:52]>> Okay. So, why then if they are 15 in a day, is it okay?

[00:14:56]>> Um, I see where you're going with this.

[00:14:59]>> This is a little bit different than whether or not this person should be killed and whether or not they're human.

[00:15:03]>> But you understand there's a moral prescription moving it forward to a 15 uh uh years old in a day.

[00:15:10]>> Okay. Okay. Well, then why not 15 years and 2 days?

[00:15:12]>> And I would be fine with that, too.

[00:15:13]>> Okay. What about 20 years?

[00:15:15]>> I think then I mean it depends on the >> Well, why don't you have an exact line here? It seems like you can't define an exact line though, my friend.

[00:15:21]>> Well, no, it's exactly the same thing because what's happening is you're inap and you're talking about raping children potentially if you define this line wrong, right? No.

[00:15:29]>> No. By the way, anybody who takes to who rapes somebody, it doesn't matter their age.

[00:15:35]>> Well, you said it's statuto. No, that's not true.

[00:15:37]>> Statuto. Yeah.

[00:15:38]>> Well, yeah. If they're 18, it's fine.

[00:15:39]And if they're 17 and it's consensual, it's statuto rape. Right.

[00:15:42]>> I don't think where you're going follows in any way.

[00:15:44]>> Well, I think you're dodging because you understand that asking someone to draw a defined line is actually very difficult.

[00:15:49]And while you can say, "Hey, I don't think a 14-year-old should have sex with a 20-year-old." That's very wrong to you. And that's fine. That's good. You can't draw the exact line. But we have these lines because we have to define them legally. Otherwise, we'll never have a standard. So, while you might be able to while you might be able while you might be able to put while you might be able to while you might be able to point at while you might be able Exactly. You're you're making my argument for me. All of these things need defined lines, right? And the What about trying What about trying a child?

[00:16:16]What about trying a child? What about What about trying a child?

[00:16:19]>> They should be killed. It's not the same. I'm sorry. You're not >> And you're talking about it's like Oh, wait. You don't think I'm going to make you pro-choice right now? That's crazy.

[00:16:25]That's very bad.

[00:16:26]>> It's not the same. I'm almost You're almost to be two days old of the baby.

[00:16:30]You're almost there.

[00:16:31]>> You know what? I'm okay with pushing.

[00:16:33]I'm pushing it up to three days now. I think it's okay now. All right. So, >> well, that's better than before when it sounded like you were okay at 24 weeks.

[00:16:40]>> I really I really want to ask my religion question. Can I ask you?

[00:16:42]>> You want to go religion now?

[00:16:43]>> Yeah. Well, it's not a religion debate, but this is genuinely curious.

[00:16:46]>> Do you have anything?

[00:16:46]>> I'm like super atheist. I I don't like religion.

[00:16:48]>> Super atheist. So, there's it's like above like No, I believe I believe in like a super absence of God that controls everything. But let me let me explain a god that is the super absence of God.

[00:16:58]>> Can I just being stupid? Okay, >> Lyla. So, I saw that you were commenting on like the recent like Trump Pope Rumble and this is >> I think I love Trump from that. I was taking >> Well, I'm assuming that that's interesting. That's what I wanted to get into because I assumed you you vote Republican, right? You're here with TP USA. Did you vote for Trump?

[00:17:16]>> I vote for the most pro-life candidate typically.

[00:17:19]>> Yeah. Single is voter, right? Um >> well, I consider other issues 100%. I look at all the other issues. I think if you think it's like genocide and murder, this should be your single issue and I respect that to be clear. Like it's you literally think millions of people are dying. My question is >> they are dying and this is going to sound like a >> by way tens of thousands of babies are dying after 24 weeks which is your line about them.

[00:17:38]>> Back to religion.

[00:17:40]>> Do do you think and this is going to sound like a gotcha. Do you think that the current administration or the pope has the ultimate authority on biblical interpretation?

[00:17:48]>> The definitely the holy father I would say as a Catholic. Now I became Catholic in college. I very much appreciate my evangelical friends or my non-atholic friends but I do believe that there is a special power the keys were given to St. Peter and it was passed on passed on through papal authority through apostolic succession that he is to interpret for a people matters of morality and faith and that's what the Catholic Church I believe has done and it's [clears throat] held the course on that doesn't mean by the way that everything that Pope Francis says is ex cathedral or infallible this is really important right >> um because a lot >> it's not every word >> so so my question then is >> did I say Pope Francis >> Pope Leo now Leo so when when the the admin that you Pope Francis when the admin that you support, although I can see you're not a fan of the admin that you vote for with everything the pope says to be a faithful Catholic.

[00:18:37]>> That said, when when the vice president or the president are having specific theological disagreements and saying that he is interpreting the Bible wrong, does that give you pause as a Catholic and say maybe the party that I'm supporting is kind of cultish and moving me away from my faith?

[00:18:52]>> Well, just to be clear, I don't support parties. I >> You absolutely support parties. There's one party that's pro-life. Do you support the Republican party?

[00:19:00]>> Yeah, but it's not for the sake of the Republican party that I might for it's for being >> pro. It's the issues. Okay. The issue of pro- life, which is a staple of the Republican party.

[00:19:08]>> Yeah. So, just to be clear, like, yes.

[00:19:09]Do I think that in the end I'm going to be uh more confident in Pope Leo's theological interpretations than President Donald Trump's? Yes, I will be 100%.

[00:19:19]>> How sacrilegious would the Republican party have to become before you said this is a greater conflict than my abortion? My friend, >> I hear where you're going with this, but very unfortunately, President Joe Biden holding the rosaries was advocating for abortion through all nine months and he was throwing pro-life grand.

[00:19:36]>> I think you're dodging because you don't want to say anything bad about I said I disagree with what the are doing on a number of front and I've been very both parties are kind of a garbage garbage fire right now.

[00:19:47]>> But yeah, but your entire philosophy in life has lived through like Catholicism.

[00:19:51]So when you see the party you support doing things such as portraying themselves as Jesus and arguing with apparently the voice of God on, you know, topics of theology, >> I don't think you're going to get me to go defend Republicans right now. That's >> I'm not asking you to defend. I'm asking you to I'm asking you to defend or condemn specifically like do you condemn like JD Vance?

[00:20:07]>> I have many times spoken out against President Trump and Vice President JD De Vance and been very blamasted for it.

[00:20:14]So, I'm not afraid of speaking against the president and I will do so when I believe he's wrong and I've done that for all presidents in the time that I've been politically active and had different administrations and I'll continue to do that. So, I don't I think you might think you're talking to someone who I don't know is afraid or doesn't speak out against different parties, but I'll speak >> you should be louder, but no, I'm not misinterp I'm banned. I'm permanently.

[00:20:36]>> Then how do you know I should be louder if you don't even know what I say?

[00:20:39]>> Uh because if you were louder, it would be on other platforms too, like YouTube.

[00:20:43]Let me just listen to my show.

[00:20:45]>> I do. Well, not very much. I find it super boring.

[00:20:47]>> Before you say I should be louder. I want to build a bridge. I want to build a bridge. So, I think a lot of the things you're advocating for are really great. I like the idea that you're like trying to make the foster care system better. I like that you want more mothers to have more options. And I would say and I would I would say like I think you could be a very good pro-life voice in the Democratic party because these are the people that are actually advocating for the social programs and for the uh things that would prevent people from getting abortions or having the option to adopt to have social care.

[00:21:15]Uh I think you should be supporting Democrats and be a pro.

[00:21:18]>> Can you name me a Can you give me a pro-life uh national Democrat?

[00:21:21]>> You could be the first one.

[00:21:22]>> Would you vote for me?

[00:21:23]>> Uh no.

[00:21:24]>> Well then where am I going to go? How's that going to work? How is that going to work? I I didn't say that you're the last person. I say you start the move.

[00:21:31]>> I don't think it's going to work without people like you who seem passionately Democrat who actually care about lives that are smaller and more vulnerable than yours like those in the womb. You have to care about them.

[00:21:41]>> Okay. Well, thank you.

[00:21:42]>> And then maybe I'll run and you can vote for me.

[00:21:44]>> Nice to meet you.

[00:21:45]>> Thank you. Great to meet you. [applause] >> Name's Walter. So, I have a question for you.

[00:21:54]>> I like your hat. Is that my friend Destiny?

[00:21:56]>> Yeah, Destiny. Yeah, >> I know Destiny. I know him well.

[00:21:58]>> Isn't he great? I've >> had many a conversation.

[00:22:01]>> Do you like him?

[00:22:02]>> He's a You know, I I love I love Destiny.

[00:22:04]>> Oh, that's great.

[00:22:05]>> I do.

[00:22:06]>> Okay. My question is, um, and this is a very important question. My 100year-old grandmother has been on life support in a coma for the past 30 years. The doctors say there's no chance that she's going to come back to life or uh wake up wake back up rather. Uh, do you think we should take her off life support or not?

[00:22:24]So yeah, I think it's totally listened to take her off life support if it's determined that she there's no uh potential for recovery and she is um in a coma and by life support you mean I'm guessing feeding tube and breathing machine and the whole works then yeah of course you can remove her from life support and any Catholic bioethicist or Christian bioethicist would agree and that wouldn't be considered killing or euthanasia or anything like that. Okay, I'm getting a call right now.

[00:22:51]>> The chance grandmother, is she has she come back out of the coma?

[00:22:54]>> The doctors told me there's no longer a 0% chance. It's a 0.1% chance. Should we take her off life support?

[00:23:03]>> So, I think that you can't ever fully remove the chance because there could be a miracle. So, maybe that's the room for a miracle. But even in those cases, you can I think justly remove someone from life support if you've made in the best medical judgment that the brain activity is permanently ceased and there's no hope of recovery here. Yes, it would be fine to remove from life support.

[00:23:25]>> But I didn't say no hope. I said very small 0.1% chance.

[00:23:28]>> Virtually no hope miracle then. Yes, it would be fine to remove from life support.

[00:23:33]>> Okay. All right. Thank you.

[00:23:34]>> You're welcome. Do you have a position on abortion? I'm curious.

[00:23:39]Um, >> I'm gonna guess you might with your hat, but [laughter] >> I guess Yeah. Um, you know, I like there's a quote from Joe Biden that I really like and Joe Biden once said, "Oh, I'm serious. I'm serious." Well, okay.

[00:23:51]>> What did he say? I like donuts. What was that one?

[00:23:54]>> That's right. [laughter] Joe No. A long time ago, back in the Obama days, right?

[00:23:58]God bless. Joe Biden once said, "Uh, I think abortion should be safe, legal, and >> that was Hillary Clinton, my friend."

[00:24:04]>> Okay. Well, was he quoting him? I mean, maybe he said it, too. But that that was coined by Hillary.

[00:24:09]>> Okay. Well, he might have been quoting her, but I'm going to give Biden credit because I like him more. So, >> Sure.

[00:24:13]>> Yeah.

[00:24:14]>> So, you're saying that's your position.

[00:24:15]Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.

[00:24:17]>> Yeah.

[00:24:18]>> Why rare?

[00:24:19]>> Um, I think that uh there is I mean, like you said, I mean, it's it's gross, right? It should be uh rare when it happens, but it should still happen nonetheless.

[00:24:27]>> Why is it Why is it gross?

[00:24:28]>> Well, like you said, they pull the limbs off. Look, it doesn't look good. So you just think it should be rare because it doesn't I mean a heart surgery doesn't look good but we're not saying going out there saying like oh it's it's this gross horrible thing and >> yeah but heart surgery should be rare.

[00:24:41]No.

[00:24:42]>> Yes. I completely agree. That's a good point. Heart surgery should be rare. So you're not saying it should be rare because there's any human loss there.

[00:24:49]You're just saying it should be rare because it's kind of a gross surgery.

[00:24:52]>> Yeah.

[00:24:53]>> Really? I don't think that's what Hillary Clinton meant when she said it.

[00:24:55]>> Okay. Well, I don't like Hillary Clinton.

[00:24:57]>> Okay. I don't think she's a loser. I don't think that's what Joe Biden meant when he said it. Okay. Well, uh, I'll debate him on that, too.

[00:25:04]>> So, you So, you basically think it should be safe, legal, and rare. Only rare because it's kind of like gross, like a heart surgery, but otherwise, it's totally fine. You don't think there's any human loss with abortion?

[00:25:13]>> Um, it's irrelevant to my point. I think it's just uh >> it's very relevant because that we're talking about are we is there a loss of a human or not? Right.

[00:25:21]>> I didn't I never brought that up.

[00:25:22]>> Well, would you say there's no human then?

[00:25:25]>> Um, I think the No, no, we're losing a fetus. So, what is a fetus then?

[00:25:31]>> Um, [clears throat] do I mean do you want me to define that?

[00:25:33]>> Yes, of course. Because you're saying it's okay to kill them.

[00:25:36]>> Uh, a baby baby.

[00:25:39]>> A fetus is a baby baby.

[00:25:41]>> You know what I mean? The pre before in the womb.

[00:25:43]>> So, you're saying a fetus is a baby, but it's okay to kill them.

[00:25:46]>> No, it's it's it's the uh in the womb, the egg is fertilized, it starts developing into a person. That's a fetus.

[00:25:53]>> Okay. So, uh and would you say that? Do you know what do you know what the word fetus means?

[00:25:58]>> I think it's from like Latin or something.

[00:26:00]>> Yes. Do you know what it means?

[00:26:01]>> No.

[00:26:01]>> It means human. It means offspring like child.

[00:26:04]>> Okay.

[00:26:05]>> So, is the fetus human? If there's a fetus and a woman, is that fetus a human?

[00:26:08]>> I don't think so. Not yet.

[00:26:09]>> So, are they what are they like some other species?

[00:26:11]>> It's a human yet to be.

[00:26:13]>> They're not a human.

[00:26:14]>> Not yet.

[00:26:15]>> What species are they? If they're not human, >> it that doesn't mean it's another species.

[00:26:19]>> So, what it's a nonspecies? No species.

[00:26:21]>> Is like a sperm a human? Uh, a sperm comes from a human and is part of is part of a human. Yeah. But they're not an individual human.

[00:26:29]>> Yeah. So that's what I that's why that's kind of what I believe.

[00:26:32]>> So you're saying a fetus is a sperm.

[00:26:34]>> More or less. Sure.

[00:26:35]>> Okay. But they are human.

[00:26:37]>> No.

[00:26:37]>> No.

[00:26:37]>> In the same way.

[00:26:39]>> Well, in the same way that you said a sperm is in a human.

[00:26:41]>> Okay. So I think what you're having a challenge here with is they are both of human matter.

[00:26:48]>> Yeah.

[00:26:48]>> Of the human species. I think you're saying or you're trying to say here that the fetus is not an individual human life. It's just genetic matter like cells like the sperm is a cell. Is that what you're saying?

[00:27:00]>> Yeah.

[00:27:00]>> So where's the scientific evidence to say that the fetus is not an individual human, but they're just like biological matter like a sperm.

[00:27:08]>> Um I mean humanity is based on consciousness I believe.

[00:27:14]>> Okay. But you just said that the sperm is of human matter and the fetus you acknowledge it's human as well. Yes.

[00:27:20]>> Okay. So, I don't think that makes sense. So, I think the case is the fetus is a human life. It's an individual life and it's genetically distinct from his or her mother and father and they are their own unique genetic code that's growing and they they actually are a whole human. They just need time and nourishment to grow, be born, and become a newborn one day.

[00:27:38]>> What do you think? Do you do you agree with that?

[00:27:40]>> Um, sorry, say that again. that the fetus is it his or her own own distinct genetic code distinct from his or her mother and father. They are human.

[00:27:50]They're an individual human. They just need time and nourishment to grow and one day to be born and become a newborn.

[00:27:54]Do you do you agree?

[00:27:57]>> Sorry, I'm not following. I'm sorry. I need to I I can't uh continue. Sorry.

[00:28:02]>> Okay.

[00:28:03]>> Thank you for coming. I I encourage you to reject abortion because it kills human rights. But thank you for coming.

[00:28:08]>> Thank you. This is the most stupid argument I've ever listened to about abortion. Like every from the first guy who made a very stupid arguments to the second guy who do not even know what abortion really means. It's very absurd.

[00:28:23]Like it's crazy. I felt freaking angry.

[00:28:27]I was tired of hearing them speak. The first guy who spoke for like 20 something minutes. I was like, "What the heck are you saying? What you saying makes absolutely no sense." The crazy thing about this is that these are college students. These are college students who are sounding dumb as if they are not even going to school. Very very dumb. It makes no sense for you to tell me that you don't care about the futives.

[00:28:54]The way he's saying it like just get rid of it as if it's is a trash. Dump jump dump it in.

[00:29:01]Just dump it. Like every single person on this planet earth I will keep on saying this was once a fetus was once a clumpster cell before they turn into a baby. It's a development process. The difference in a fetus a clumster cell then it turns to a baby is time and nourishment. That's it.

[00:29:26]Hearing college students speak in a very demeaning statement or words about fut or clumsy as if they means nothing. It was very annoying hearing the students like [ __ ] It's crazy. And they as they tend to portray their own imagination on you.

[00:29:47]They're just when that guy the first guy who was saying um she's a Republicans, he's he's trying to then he said she supports Trump. Like how dare you say that? It's not everyone who support Trump. It's not everyone who is even a Republican or a conservative who support Trump.

[00:30:11]Do you understand? It's not everyone.

[00:30:13]Some people do not support this movement. Some people support some aspects of what he's doing and this abortion Trump is against abortion.

[00:30:25]Do you understand that single movement is against people support that not that they support his entire mission?

[00:30:35]That guy right there was just getting me angry. That's why it's good to learn let people speak then you will know what's going on in their head because some people are just walking but they are dumb and stupid they're looking all fit all nice but statements that comes out from their mouth are crazy like you be like how is this person who looks like this be this stupid people who support this leftist people or this laborers it's it's obvious of for you to know how they sink that this guy who was supporting Destiny, he was wearing Destiny's cup. Destiny himself all they say trash.

[00:31:18]So I was not expecting anything meaningful coming out from the guy who was supporting him.

[00:31:23]The guy was if you observe his border movements, he I don't know if his panic is panicking. I I don't know but he was not settled.

[00:31:32]He he thought he came with a a tricky question by asking her about um a 100 years old woman who is in life support. Does she have 1% chance of surviving or [ __ ] That was his main question to come here and ask. He has nothing meaningful to say. Nothing. The same thing with the first guy who came here. That one has absolutely nothing meaningful to see.

[00:31:58]He's a pure time waster. Like the first guy especially was a time waster. He just came to waste time, every single person's time. Even wast wasted my time watching it because I was freaking angry. It makes no sense. The entire discussion is absolutely [ __ ] I will say this every single time. The entire discussion that that guy came here to make was nonsense.

[00:32:24]Pure nonsense. Absolutely nonsense.

[00:32:27]I feel like this woman Lilia should have ended the conversation early because the guy was just going back and front back and front over and over again. Leela ought not to tolerate such people because they're time wasters.

[00:32:42]There are people that they're in line that want to ask questions meaningful questions than that guy who is a time waster. It's obvious that he's a time waster. At I think five minutes during the video, I was like, "No, this guy did not come here to ask a meaningful question. He came here to waste our time and make Leela look stupid online." That was his main aim.

[00:33:06]At the end of the entire conversation, he said she should be be part of Democrats and continue this ambition. Who told you she's a Republican? She clearly told you that she's not a Republican. She's not a Democrat. She doesn't support any party.

[00:33:22]Aside that, you did not come here with a good intent to ask any meaningful questions. You just came here to banter and waste people's time. This entire discussion brought some aspect of clarity to how some college students think like the first student and also second student.

[00:33:43]They collect student but they acting stupid. Um, this is beautiful by knowing how they think, but their whole statement was not making any sense. Subscribe to our channel, give us a thumbs up, share this video as many as can, guys, and we'll see you guys in the next video. Make sure you stay safe.