The Scariest Inmates in Prison

[00:00:00]Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches were the punishment meal in prison, like when they went on lockdown because of a stabbing, everybody was got like sack lunches. They didn't the caf- cuz the prisoners cooked the food, but now everybody's on lockdown, nobody to cook the food. So, they hauled up a bunch of us from the low low security prison to the medium security prison to make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for like 700 inmates or something like that.

[00:00:21]>> It's not a bad punishment meal.

[00:00:23]>> I got out of that.

[00:00:24]>> [laughter] >> I was selected to do that.

[00:00:28]I did not.

[00:00:29]>> put a little knife in the sandwich bag so they could cut their own crust off?

[00:00:33]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, I didn't want to make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for a bunch of killers. I didn't want any part of that job. It didn't seem fun.

[00:00:39]>> Medium security has killers?

[00:00:42]>> Yeah.

[00:00:42]>> It does. Okay.

[00:00:45]>> And and killings, more importantly, like like in there, like they so the reason they were on lockdown was someone got stabbed. I don't know if it was to death, but they had to be like they didn't fix him in the infirmary. They had to take him to a hospital. He got stabbed up over like a bag of potato chips, they said.

[00:01:00]Like like I don't know if somebody owed the other guy a bag of chips, like a borrowing off somebody's commissary, wasn't paid back, disrespected, and they [ __ ] him up. Um so, then the whole prison goes on lockdown and they get sack lunches through a slot and stay in their cells all day.

[00:01:14]>> I wonder really how that went down, like exactly, right? Like like let's say I owe potato chips and I say, "Bro, I am sorry. I know I said I'd get you potato chips by Friday and I haven't met my deal. So, if you give me four more days, I'll make it two bags of potato chips and then we'll be square. How's that work with you?" They don't beat me up for that, right?

[00:01:34]>> No.

[00:01:35]>> If if you if you give the the chips, right? If it becomes a the thing where you're constantly being disrespected.

[00:01:40]>> the time.

[00:01:41]>> Yeah. Right. Right. I I imagine he got beat up for saying, "I know I said I'd pay you back, but now, [ __ ] you. I'm not going to." And that's what >> a video the other day that was in the prison. One of the inmates has a camera phone and he's recording they're having like a court session. There's like two or three guys who are the offended parties and there's one guy who has borrowed money from multiple of them and not paid it back. And he's like, "And I wouldn't have given you anything if I'd known you owed this man money already and you'd already promised to put the money on his commissary. So now you going to get [ __ ] up." And then they just jump him and beat the [ __ ] out of him right there. And it's like classic criminal recording their crime in prison.

[00:02:22]>> [laughter] >> Like and I'm watching it so there's no way the prison guards haven't seen it or the the warden or whoever the [ __ ] Like I've seen it. Um yeah, it's people not paying back their debts and being disrespectful about it. There's one thing about like if you were late like like oh, I know I told I borrowed that salsa from you or those chips or that ramen or the that mackerel. I said I would hit you back when when on commissary day when I could get back to the commissary, but my people didn't put my money in.

[00:02:48]They're not going to beat you up over that. But if this go keeps happening, this the situation's not made made right. Yeah, they're going to beat you up eventually.

[00:02:55]>> Or if you owe someone chips and you say I don't have the chips, I'll get you next week, but they catch you eating chips.

[00:03:01]>> Oh, that would be that would be a problem.

[00:03:04]>> You're done.

[00:03:05]>> Yeah, that would be a problem.

[00:03:05]>> sense, too. Yeah.

[00:03:07]Yeah, I always wonder like how unreasonable are they? Cuz I've seen like this is probably not true stuff, but you know, they leave a Snickers bar on your bed. You accidentally think that it's a gift or whatever. Now, oh my god, I owe him anal or something. And I'm like, "Wait, this sounds like we've blown this out of proportion."

[00:03:25]>> No, that might happen.

[00:03:26]>> Really?

[00:03:26]>> But that's a different scenario like what what I was describing was like a transaction between two dudes. What you're describing sounds more like a new guy getting targeted by an actual rapist. And like >> Yeah.

[00:03:38]>> that could that totally happens. Like stuff like that. Like where they trick the guy into taking something from them so that then he owes them and now he'll never be satisfied about the way in which they pay him back and they can sort of hold that over his head. I remember I saw a podcast with an ex-con and he had gotten a job somewhere at an office or something and uh the lady's going out to get sandwiches and she's like, "I'm going to Jimmy John's. You want a sandwich?" He's like, "I got my sack lunch from the shelter they make me live at." I'm like, "No, no, no. No, no." She's like, "I'll get you a sandwich." He's and he he's like, "In my head because I'm conditioned for prison, I'm like, and then what do I owe you?"

[00:04:13]"What are you going to want back for this sandwich? What are you trying to What are you trying to do to me right now?" Is this a Is it and she's like, "I'm going to bring you a sandwich back.

[00:04:21]No strings attached."

[00:04:23]>> [laughter] >> He's like, and I was like, "Fuck."

[00:04:27]>> If I were in prison, there is nowhere less I'd rather hear they're bringing me a sandwich from than Jimmy John's.

[00:04:35]>> [laughter] >> Jimmy John's [ __ ] sucks.

[00:04:40]Picky about it, okay.

[00:04:41]>> [laughter] >> I'd be a little picky.

[00:04:43]>> There's I'd take Subway.

[00:04:45]>> They're better than Blimpie's or Subway.

[00:04:46]No way they're better than Blimpie's and Subway.

[00:04:49]>> No. Blimpie's blows both of those out of the water.

[00:04:52]>> You're crazy. Get yourself a nice bacon ranch. Get yourself an Italian with bacon. Come on.

[00:04:58]>> You've got to be very wary that, you know, who you're dealing with and as long as it's at that low level, harmony's restored after the beef is squashed.

[00:05:07]>> The When when they take two people in the cell under the stairs and say, "Work it out." Do they ever talk it out? Like, "I didn't say Chomo, I said Kromo. I thought you had Down Syndrome." And they all laugh it off and move on. Do Do they ever talk it out?

[00:05:21]>> You know what Two Tonys said? He has used humor to diffuse many of potentially violent situation, but talking it out is more on the female side. In the men's side, it's they're faster to fist. You see a guy, he'll be walking down a corridor, he'll look at a guy, guy say, "What are you looking at?"

[00:05:38]He'll say, "Nothing." "You calling me nothing?" Bam bam bam, it's on just like that. It's like a powder keg of stress, especially for the guys who are unsentenced. So, being unsentenced is more stressful cuz you don't know what's going to happen to you and you're looking to take that stress out on somebody.

[00:05:54]>> I asked you what the strategy was, right? For a guy who's not, you know, Herculean. It sounds like losing is it.

[00:06:00]Like if I go in there, I can't beat up these guys.

[00:06:03]Just go in, show heart.

[00:06:06]I hope they accept that.

[00:06:07]It sounds like >> The toughest guys have the highest mortality. Look at Nick, you know, he was proud of winning all these fights.

[00:06:13]The more fights you win, the more challenges you get. Everybody wants to make their name off the toughest guy in the building.

[00:06:20]So, eventually, you're going to come a cropper. My My strategy was I've done prison survival advice videos, and one of them is titled make alliances with the right people. I had Wildman going in, I had two Tonys later on.

[00:06:34]>> Okay.

[00:06:35]Why did that guy torture?

[00:06:37]You mentioned he >> [laughter] >> was mostly drug dealers. But it wasn't all drug dealers. It sounded like he had a a method or like a motive.

[00:06:46]>> Oh, he loved it. He loved it. So, he was [laughter] >> Oh, I guess everyone needs a hobby.

[00:06:50]Okay.

[00:06:51]>> He was going to court one day, and he was in a holding cell, and there was a suspected charmer. So, he held a kangaroo court with him as the judge.

[00:07:01]And it And it was decided to stab the charmer, tie him up, and and stab him, which he did. And then he put a knife into the to the um eyeball of the charmer. He didn't gouge his eye out, he just put it to the eyeball of the charmer like he was going to take the eyeball out. And he told everybody in there, "If any of you snitch on what I've done, I will find you or someone in the prison system will find you. We'll [ __ ] take your eyeballs out. We'll [ __ ] eat them."

[00:07:26]>> Jesus. So, that that was just [laughter] kind of his Some people like to read, some people like TV shows. Some people like exercise, and he liked breaking people's knees with ball-peen hammers and threatening to gouge your eye out.

[00:07:38]>> Oh, yeah. And the the day he got arrested, it was headline news. They had like a tank on the street. And they had like helicopters over the house. And in the end, it looked like he was going to go down in a shootout, but in the end they one of his female friends came forward and helped him negotiate to get him out. He was full-on hardcore.

[00:07:57]>> Were the different gangs, like I like you said, like it's all about business at the end of the day. They want to keep making their money. They want to keep getting their drugs. But was there almost like a hierarchy like among the non-gang related prisoners where it's like Oh, okay. Thank goodness the the the Italians took power from the Aryans. You know, they all suck, but at least the Aryans, you know, they were way more brutal. Or oh, the the Hispanic gangs in charge right now. I really hope that the the black or the whatever gang takes power because they're being so brutal. Or was it all like mutually assured destruction? The Hispanics cut a guy's head off and so then the Italians and the Aryans do it. And then the blacks have to show they have to do it, too. Like just constantly one-upping each other. Or what was that dynamic?

[00:08:37]>> Okay. The reason that everybody's prison stories are different and some people will call other people out say, "It's not like that. That rule isn't right.

[00:08:46]People don't behave like that." Well, the reason that everybody's prison stories are different is because every prison yard has different prisoners, different guards. There's different rules depending upon who the leader is.

[00:09:00]For example, I was in one building where every night there was like a fellatio show.

[00:09:05]There was a white guy getting a [ __ ] from a trans prisoner in the in the building opposite. We'd all watch it and just do do this like running commentary of jokes. It's a funny [laughter] thing.

[00:09:15]But when the head of the whites got moved out of the building and a new head of the whites came in, they sent word to the opposite building saying that that white guy getting the [ __ ] was going to get attacked the very next day unless it stopped immediately.

[00:09:28]So, it depends upon the characters who are in charge. And that's constantly changing.

[00:09:35]>> That makes sense.

[00:09:36]>> So, I watch another YouTuber. What's Wes's last name? Is it Watson?

[00:09:39]>> Watson. It's Watson, yeah.

[00:09:40]>> Yeah. And um he takes a lot of pride in the fact that he was a shot caller. He was in charge. But hypothetical Woody doesn't want to be a shot caller. That's a lot of attention and I don't think shot callers have a really great track record of of of an easy time, right? At some point someone Is it good to be the shot caller? It seems like a bad strategy.

[00:10:03]>> If you're a big tough guy and you can handle yourself, there are perks. And respect to Wes Watson, he's blown up on YouTube. He's doing really good. My co-defendant, Wildman, loves watching his videos. Every time I go to his house, he's got a Wes Watson video on. I think they're going to end up doing a Skype. I'm training Wildman right now in Skypes. He's not quite there yet.

[00:10:22]>> [laughter] >> So, Wildman arrives at a prison.

[00:10:27]He's just been sentenced and they come up to him and they say, "What are your charges?" And he says, "I've had a long day. I'm going to sleep." And they say, "No, you don't understand who we are. You need to tell us what your charges are." So, he knocks the guy out and he goes to sleep.

[00:10:43][laughter] >> I'm going to go with assault.

[00:10:49]>> [laughter] >> They say to him, "You shouldn't have done that. We're going to find out who you are."

[00:10:54]And Wildman's like, "Okay, find out who I am."

[00:10:58]As he sleep, he wakes up and they come back and they say to him, >> [laughter] >> "You are We know who you are now.

[00:11:08]Do you want the guy's job who you knocked out?"

[00:11:10]>> [laughter] >> We need you to apologize to him, but we're going to give you his job.

[00:11:17]And Wildman, what He's done lots of videos on my channel. There's a Wildman playlist about him running the building. He's got to keep the whites, the youngsters under control.

[00:11:27]And he's running like um he's making hooch. He's controlling the gambling.

[00:11:31]And there are a lot of perks in prison to doing that stuff if you don't know money whatsoever. Everybody's got to get the hustle on one way or another. So, Wes Watson, if that was his hustle, so be it.