Ep 21: Kevin Hart Protected Everyone Except His Own People

Added: 2026-06-04

[00:00:17]Hey now, welcome back to uncertain. I am Dio Hugley and we got a lot of show today. First, we have to acknowledge uh the passing. Seems like uh every time we come Well, that's pretty much every day somebody uh noteworthy passes, but um Rob Bass uh has uh gone on to glory. I think Rob Bass is probably the last time that era is probably the last time I could really dance. That's the last time I could really boogie.

[00:00:48]>> The last time.

[00:00:48]>> Oh, really?

[00:00:49]>> Really? Cuz you know after that I started to feel like any grown man that know how to dance ain't got too much time got too much time on his hands.

[00:00:55]>> That's >> like if a grown man is a grown man I ain't talking about if a grown man has a six-pack. I never seen a dude with a six-pack be ready to work a second shift >> like they ain't you know you can't. So um Rob Bass represented a time where it was just before responsibility kind of really hit.

[00:01:16]>> Yeah that's true. You know, because every every every child you have is a bullet in the head of your youth.

[00:01:23]>> Everyone hilarious.

[00:01:25]>> Everyone everyone like, "Oh man, I'm getting I'm getting older and older."

[00:01:29]Like, >> every child you have, >> every every child you have is a bullet in the head of your youth. I heard that before. So, uh uh prayers up to uh Rob Bass and his loved ones. Also, uh Pam Bondi was diagnosed with thyroid cancer.

[00:01:45]I'm not the biggest fan of hers, but I you never wish anything anything like that on anybody. So hopefully uh she is uh um she recovers and goes on uh setting the country back. Um damn.

[00:02:02]>> I mean, she's not going to do anything positive.

[00:02:07]There's nothing she going to do that's positive, but I don't want anything bad to happen to her. So prayers up for her to get right back to ruining America. Um Um, we had a really tumultuous week.

[00:02:18]We've been, this is our 21st week.

[00:02:21]>> I don't know that I've ever had a week where we were at odds like this in the writer.

[00:02:28]And you know, if I were tyrant, I go, "Shut the [ __ ] up and do it my way." But apparently you guys are not those >> what I heard.

[00:02:36]>> And um, and it all started, I think it never kind of uh, dissipated from the roast. and we've had different iterations of the argument, but Kevin Hart uh was on the Breakfast Club and >> yes, >> I still say that the comedic part of me, I think it feels disingenuous for me to tell somebody how to do comedy. I say, well, I'll say that I I can't see how those two audiences work together. I I knew that this would happen. I think they knew it would happen. Um, but I can't I just feel uh disingenuous giving myself latitude I don't give the other performers. So, I think I think a comedian should never uh apologize. I don't think that Kevin uh has to apologize for a joke he didn't tell.

[00:03:24]There are a couple of things I take umbrage with it. One is that um you uh you cut a bunch of jokes that you thought would be offensive. You cut 18.

[00:03:36]he could have been the 19th one. Uh that you knew what would happen. Uh and the other thing is when he was on the Breakfast Club and he was talking about how what was I supposed to do? Jump up and you know Tom Brady did that, right?

[00:03:48]Tom Brady did that.

[00:03:50]>> I love Robert Craft. I love >> Okay. Okay.

[00:03:56]>> He ain't like a joke. So it is there's a template set for that. But you all uh especially Jasmine, it's not new for us.

[00:04:04]So we the we're the Bobby and Whitney of podcast. So I >> we argue all the time.

[00:04:10]>> I take that.

[00:04:10]>> But I just don't think I think I I I think that it would be disingenuous for me to give myself latitude and not I mean I I I don't have to like a thing to as a matter of fact it's not freedom of speech unless I dislike it. If everybody said what I wanted them to say or what I agree with it wouldn't be freedom of speech. It' be acquesence.

[00:04:33]But you don't have to curl your lips.

[00:04:34]Just get to it. What would you tell people?

[00:04:36]>> This whole thing about freedom of speech, right? It's supposed to be a blanket, right? Everyone is supposed to have freedom of speech. But what's interesting is I know Austin may gave the analogy of bullets, saying if bullets were colorblind, that would be one thing, but a lot of times they're aimed at black people. And I think in this particular case, Kevin, he kept bragging on the Breakfast Club about how it was his production, right? That means he got to make decisions. There have been any number of roasts prior to this.

[00:05:03]Whether it was the one about Donald Trump, whether it was the one with Joan Rivers, all of these people, including Tom Brady, said, "These people are off limits. We don't like these jokes. Let's cut them." Just like Kevin did. There were a lot of jokes that were cut, including some regarding Tony Hinchcliffe himself and the military and vets. They listened to it and all of them passed the sniff test. Well, not all of them, but George Floyd.

[00:05:29]And George Floyd represents so much to this country, the world basically stopped, right? So you have a lot of people who are still suffering from anxiety, from trauma, especially the family. So for Kevin to get on that show and talk about it and then be so oh indignant about no, I didn't hear the interview when Lauren said, did you hear the interview that I did with his family me? No. And now I won't listen to it. It was almost as if he he was angry about the possibility of something that might have made him feel bad about his decision.

[00:06:02]>> Well, here here's the thing. I I and I said this. I think one of the questions you hear is why are we after two weeks still talking about a George Floyd joke.

[00:06:13]The alternate question to that that is why after six years are we still doing them?

[00:06:19]>> So I understand that but >> I I am a performer. I've said any number of things that have been offensive. I don't like what happened. Um I don't know that I'd have laughed at it. First off, I wouldn't have had somebody that I was that that opposed to on a roast cuz a roast is the intimate thing. It's about friends and people kind of giving each other a hard time and [ __ ] around.

[00:06:42]Especially when you knew what he would do and you knew what would happen.

[00:06:47]The the things I come away with and I said it last last week. I don't like that you cut jokes. mean meaning you were trying to protect people. Uh you aired it in the first iteration but not the second because you knew how controversial would be and that means that you heard the audience because it wouldn't had you wouldn't had time to to focus group but you would have heard the audience right and then you immediately cut it. So you heard the artist with George Floyd but those cries fell on empty those those that those pleas fell on empty vacant ears. The other thing is that you said that you couldn't stop the production. Tom Brady did and you apologized to the gay community and you basically intimated you would never tell those types of jokes again. Those are my only problems. And so me and Austin I I don't know if we've ever had this contentious of a writer room and very disrespectful to the dude whose name is on the thing.

[00:07:40]You know, you know I >> listen but the explan listen the explanation that Kevin gave was was 10 times worse than anything you could have ever done is you got on there you was just talking like hey man how come no one's talking about the set. He had a great set. It's like again if somebody was doing a TED talk and they just called your mama a [ __ ] and he was like yeah but everything just kind of went sideways. It's like yeah [ __ ] call my mama a [ __ ] Right.

[00:08:08]>> Not worried about what he talking about.

[00:08:11]>> But but part of but you understand what I'm saying about I think freedom of speech is sacrosan. I think that that my another problem I have is that the people who yell at the loudest don't really mean it. You can't tell me that you want freedom of speech, but you're okay with Coar getting fired because the president didn't like it. You don't you okay with Jimmy Kimmel being under assault? So I think it's disj to me. I really mean what I say. I I I don't like that man. I don't like him at all because I believe him to be a racist.

[00:08:42]But I would I would I would defend his right to tell his jokes. Racist got to laugh, too. Just just not around me. I just don't need to hear it. But that doesn't mean that I can't um this is not these are not it's not a binary thing.

[00:08:59]It's not mutually exclusive. I can I can both understand the need for the ability to say what you say and have unfettered access to to your perspective and that I don't like it too. I can have those those things don't have to not they don't have to they're not a binary.

[00:09:16]>> I just think that if you heard a joke and you felt it was too far for Melania, it was too far regarding Tony Hinchcliffe, it was too far regarding the military. Why was it not too far for George Floyd? And you a black man. You got black children. How? Making a joke.

[00:09:35]>> No, >> he's rich enough. He has green children.

[00:09:38]>> But making a joke about a man.

[00:09:40]>> I got black children.

[00:09:43]>> Making a joke about a man who was killed in front of us. There's nothing funny about that. And then you know what? You carried your little tiny black ass on the breakfast club to bring it back up.

[00:09:54]Why? Cuz you knew you were wrong. You didn't have to come on there and defend yourself. But you did. I don't think I don't think Breakfast Club wanted him to come on there to talk about some other stuff. They didn't. They wanted him on the show to bring this up for the very same reason that that Kevin had the nerve to not cut the George Floyd joke and that was for likes, for watches and views and all the things. It's like a remix. He >> I don't think he thought he was right.

[00:10:16]>> Miss me with it.

[00:10:17]>> I don't think he thought he >> missed me with it.

[00:10:20]>> It's three days of this. It's three days of this.

[00:10:22]>> Well, can I can I also add something?

[00:10:24]>> Sure.

[00:10:24]>> Okay. Did you see the Tony Henchman clip that he said yesterday? Um, >> first off, I'm as a black man when I hear henchman, I'm automatically my neck automatically itches.

[00:10:34]>> It's automatic. He sounds like that's the right name for him. Yeah, >> thank you for coining that to y'all. Um, and realistically, you know, he said, um, you know, they call me Nazi, gay, or racist. I'm none of those things, but they are what I said. They're fat, ugly, black, Jewish.

[00:10:52]I and at the end of the day, dude, the the fact of the matter is that these people have gotten a growing growing power in our industry where we have to answer to these people or at least be around them. The people that you're you're funneling money to and hiring, they're getting enriched by these same people. And like the way I'm looking at it is that do they look and view us as equals to them?

[00:11:11]>> Well, it doesn't. Well, here's the thing.

[00:11:12]>> Do they view us as equals to them?

[00:11:14]>> I listen in America, we've been called black, we've been called color, we've been called African-American. We've never been called equals. I wouldn't be looking for that right here. I would I would say this that I agree. I I I think that many times in my career I've said things and had people have the knives out for me, including a lot of black people from some of the things I've said. I don't believe it is inherently I think it's inherently uh antithetical to what we do as comedians. So, when I started this podcast, a whole lot of questions and very few answers. What if nobody listens? What if I say the wrong thing or nobody agrees? What makes the leap a whole lot easier? And that is Shopify, the commerce platform behind millions of businesses and and 10% of all e-commerce in the United States of America. Whether you're just getting started already running, Shopify gives you everything all in one place. Hundreds of templates to build your own store, AI tools to write your product descriptions, email and social campaigns to find your customers, and awardwinning 247 support when you get stuck. Inventory, payments, analytics, all of it, one platform. It is time to turn those whatifs into cha-ching with Shopify today. Sign up for your $1 per month trial at shopify.com/unertain.

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[00:12:37]I don't think I so even though I telling you I I I have a disdain for those things, I don't see what the need was to bring those people out uh and to have this kind of conflict. I mean, jokes are going to automate. Every joke has a victim. I thought this was contrived. I thought they wanted this and now they're trying to pretend like it was just some kind of creative uh kathuffle. It isn't.

[00:13:01]This was planned.

[00:13:02]>> Yeah.

[00:13:03]>> But I I think I think that you have to artistic uh vantage point. I I have to seed that to somebody. And me and Austin and and Jen, we are I like >> But why does the artistic vantage point always come at, you know, to the feet of black people. We don't hear jokes about the Holocaust all the time. We don't hear a lot of jokes about Jews, right?

[00:13:25]But black people for what Kevin did, considering the whole trauma and tragedy of George Floyd, he normalized it. You got up there and you let them tell a joke about a man of our community.

[00:13:42]>> But he didn't tell the joke.

[00:13:43]>> It doesn't matter. He could have stopped it. We talked about that. Yes, I get it.

[00:13:48]Okay. If he wants to say, "So, it was my production. Do you want me to stop it in the middle of the show? You just said Tom Brady did." How come he couldn't have said, "Hey, we going have to cut that."

[00:13:56]>> Tom Brady's a 6'5 white dude with six.

[00:13:59]>> In the editing, >> Kevin ain't even tall enough to write a Six Flags.

[00:14:02]>> You said it was what, 12 or more jokes that were cut. How come he couldn't have been 13? I just I just I think I think that I you know agree with your sentiment, but Austin, you you so you're not just a uh a a comedian, you're a producer, you're a director. So you have an obligation to to kind of have three kind of situations and juggling in there. So I know part of you can understand what I'm saying. I do, but I'm I'm I stand on the point of all or nothing. It was only three groups that got hit that night.

[00:14:40]>> It was black people, it was suicides, and it was John Cena fans. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, if you're going to if you're going to say, "Hey, anybody can get it," then anybody should get it. If you're going to say, "Hey, I think the political stuff or the veterans are off and this but and oh, but black people the only people getting shot." I'm like, "I don't like that.

[00:15:08]Special needs people are only people getting shot." I'm like, "I don't like that." I'm like, "Yo, at the end of the day, if if it's a if it's a battle royale, then everybody need to be getting hit with a chair." But again, I'm looking at Kevin and saying it's far too many times where other other races or other people that are in charge that belong to other races get to the top and they say, "I'm not [ __ ] with that [ __ ] man."

[00:15:33]>> Right?

[00:15:33]>> Like, at the end of the day, chill out with all of that. If I if I have my own writer room and somebody says some [ __ ] I actually might take it personal that you felt comfortable enough to even say that [ __ ] around me. You thought I was the guy that I that was gonna let that [ __ ] slide. Matter of fact, won't you won't you operate on the other side of caution because that's how most people do.

[00:15:56]>> But I think artist art kind of aborts con.

[00:16:00]>> No, I got you. But if I work for Woody Allen, I'm not going straight for it would never work with >> that would never happen. I'm like, yo, hey, >> the only black people that work for Woody Allen was cleaning the set. That's not gonna happen. I'm saying I don't open up with I don't open up with Seinfeld and Larry David with oven jokes.

[00:16:16]>> That's not who I am. I'm like, [ __ ] I don't know what their [ __ ] temperament is. It's like, yo, we going to feel this out. Now, I might get there eventually, but again, I don't feel I don't like the comfort. You ever had somebody feel comfortable about you that you should you like, "Oh, why you feel comfortable? You know what I think, D?

[00:16:34]Maybe you should do this. Hold on. Who the [ __ ] are you telling me about my set, man? Who is this?"

[00:16:38]>> Yeah. Every weekend with you, you [ __ ] But you know what? Just one more thing. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[00:16:44]One more thing.

[00:16:44]>> ALL THE TIME. ALL EVERY TIME.

[00:16:46]>> Because one of the things that Kevin Hart said on his Instagram, he said, "Even when I clearly say that comics are comics and comics operate on their own.

[00:16:55]Nobody controls a comedians. A comedian.

[00:16:58]Comedians do what they want and how they want. It's that simple." Okay, here's the thing. If that is true, why did you cut so many jokes? That's number one.

[00:17:08]Number two, after you saw how offensive it was to not only the Floyd family, but to a lot of members of the black community, much in the way that you went on an apology tour for the LGBTQ AI plus community. How come you couldn't just simply apologize rather than double down?

[00:17:25]>> Right.

[00:17:25]>> Also, D, this >> it's apparent you [ __ ] want your own podcast.

[00:17:30]>> I'm not going there.

[00:17:32]>> As a as a comedian, D, this is not your show at the end of the day. Tony Hip.

[00:17:37]No, it's your this show. But I'm saying that's not Tony Hinchiff's show. That's not Kill Tony. That's not him doing a oneman show standupwise where it's like, yo, you came to see me. Like remember when uh >> Tracy Morgan got in trouble for all of that [ __ ] It's like, yo, you went to a Tracy Morgan show, >> right?

[00:17:56]>> So at the end of the day, you went to his show.

[00:17:59]>> It's kids in the It's kids in the roast.

[00:18:02]Like, hold on. Wait. Who's George Floyd, mommy? Like, and now the first thing I got to tell my child is, "Oh, that's the guy that Okay, cool."

[00:18:10]>> Well, I'm I'm going to switch sides for a second.

[00:18:12]>> Thank you, somebody. I feel alone.

[00:18:14]>> Bring up JD.

[00:18:17]>> So, sorry.

[00:18:19]>> So, the one thing is like low key, I also feel like DL is a comedian. There's an element of the comedian code where you're not supposed to be the police of the other. And it's not [ __ ] cool.

[00:18:31]>> And but at the same time, too, it's not [ __ ] cool. Nobody wants to be that guy. You know what I mean?

[00:18:36]>> Cat threw that out the window.

[00:18:38]>> Yes.

[00:18:39]>> Two years ago, Cat threw that out the window and was like, "That [ __ ] That motherfucker's terrible. He's fat.

[00:18:46]She's terrible." Like, yo, that [ __ ] is dead.

[00:18:49]>> But you know, the imbalance the imbalance for me, Alex, is I get it. DL cannot, you know, police another comedian. I get it. I understand it.

[00:18:59]It's the bro code, whatever. But again, >> you the joke that you made about >> I'm sorry >> [ __ ] you a Jewish superhero >> apologize only once, not twice, not three times or four, maybe even five times to the LGBT community about posts that he made about jokes because he wanted something from it, right? So he apologized over and over and then he kept saying, "I'm not going to keep on apologizing." And then he kept apologizing. So why is it taking so long for him to simply say if I offended anyone or the George Floyd family specifically?

[00:19:38]>> He didn't tell the joke because it doesn't matter. He was in control. He was in control. Well, the locker room was televised.

[00:19:44]>> It's Donald Trump locker room.

[00:19:46]>> It is.

[00:19:46]>> That's literally what it is. It was televised. I I I don't think I still do not think that he owes. First off, uh uh one of the things that was weird was when he talked about if there's a party with my name on the the uh the the the get shot. Well, if you invited the dude that did the shooting, that might be a different thing, >> right?

[00:20:10]>> Which was a which was an off analogy to me. But I I think that that I think he wanted and and every the powers that be wanted this. This is, you know, because infamy is better than fame. All of this works for somebody.

[00:20:25]>> And and so to me, I can understand why.

[00:20:29]First off, I would never apologize for a joke I told, let alone one I didn't.

[00:20:33]>> So, I'm not mad at him for that. What I what I do think puts this in a in a different light is you you have you've established that you will apologize.

[00:20:43]There's a precedent for you apologizing.

[00:20:45]You you you you took 18 jokes out and some of them were were some of your personal uh experiences you didn't want too close to and then you said that what were you supposed to do? Stop him in the middle of of of the uh rose and Tom Brady did just that. And Tom Brady was defending Robert Krab and Robert Crab was sex trafficking. He defended a sex trafficker. And you can't even defend a dude that got that got >> cheese. He got money.

[00:21:14]>> But like low key, I do think that this is a greater analogy for the problems that run in this world and in this country, right?

[00:21:21]>> And in a certain sense, the two issues that I have is that one, you built the road and the pavement for all of this to be possible. Like when you started Kings of Comedy, you guys were doing everything yourself and you had to be up against the entirety of the rest of the business.

[00:21:34]>> So like people like Kevin Hart are literally on your shoulders to get here and then they [ __ ] on it.

[00:21:39]>> Secondly, >> I I think I think Kevin See, first off, we all know he's a hardworking dude.

[00:21:45]>> Yeah.

[00:21:46]>> And and a and a magnetic he's done a lot of good stuff, right?

[00:21:48]>> Yeah.

[00:21:50]My my thing again is I do not understand and I'll say this ad nauseium why some were protected and others weren't. And if you were going to protect anybody, it should have been the people who look like you.

[00:22:04]>> That's my point.

[00:22:05]>> But the fact that it didn't you didn't do that doesn't mean that I don't understand the the the kind of artistic >> value. You're a man. You're a black man with a lot of power. And out of all of the people that you could have protected, you didn't protect the one who looked like you. That's where I have the problem. I understand comedians, hey, have it your way. Do whatever you want to tell your jokes. But guess what?

[00:22:29]It doesn't mean it doesn't come with consequences. And in this particular case, black people told Kevin, we don't like it.

[00:22:36]>> Right.

[00:22:36]>> And he said, "Fuck you." The problem is is that >> I never said that.

[00:22:40]>> It did.

[00:22:40]>> Yeah. But the problem is is that when we speak our mind on this show, right, you know, our >> a little too much, right, for this week, >> it feels like >> there's a little bit too much speaking your mind on this show.

[00:22:52]>> All that basically happens is that a bunch of racist fans come out, they say the n-word, they do a bunch of terrible [ __ ] and then we're just we're just looked at as like as Jews and as black people, we're less than than them.

[00:23:02]That's it. That's it. And like at the end of the day, >> but you know the truth of this >> Netflix wanted a plan to dehumanize all of us. I think Netflix wanted a plan to get as many people to view it as possible.

[00:23:14]>> And if somebody got dehumanized in the process, oh well. I think it was a byproduct. I don't think it was the the goal. I will say this, the truth of this is that there are more people in this country who are either racist or not uncomfortable with racist than there are actual black people. Yes, >> there are more people who are either racist or racist ambiguous where they they don't quite see what the big deal is. And I think that is a pretty large segment of this population. And there going to be people who hear this controversy and go see it just cuz they want to see something bad happen to somebody black.

[00:23:54]>> Yeah.

[00:23:55]>> And and that's a pretty large segment of this country >> and it just strengthens the racist. The only people who get negative affected by negatively affected by our fight, right, >> is literally the personal trainers of the people we're going after.

[00:24:07]>> Yeah.

[00:24:07]>> And they're the like one of them literally went on their podcast and was like, "I fired my personal trainer at the DL."

[00:24:13]>> So like it's like, you know, well, and at the end of the day, if you're personal training the people we've been talking [ __ ] on, you're really [ __ ] terrible at your job, >> right?

[00:24:23]>> You know, >> I think but but but again, we talked about this last week. If if the if the if the goal was numbers, he got them. If the goal was conversation, he got it. If the goal was a resonance, he got it.

[00:24:37]Everything that that are the markers for success, people viewing, people still talking about it, it being noteworthy. U is is is clickable, you know, you still doing interviews.

[00:24:49]They scored 100.

[00:24:51]>> Well, congratulations, Judas.

[00:24:55]Um, >> well, and I don't think so anymore. I don't think we have to give him 100 because at the end of the day, >> I feel like we have the >> How many people watch that show?

[00:25:02]>> A lot.

[00:25:03]>> 15 million. 13.

[00:25:06]>> You don't Okay, let me tell you something.

[00:25:08]>> A lot.

[00:25:09]>> There ain't states there there most states in this country don't have 10 million people.

[00:25:14]>> Most states in this country don't have that. This dude got a whole reason to watch him. And and a lot of it is because of when they saw this blend of people, they knew what would happen.

[00:25:28]Netflix knew what would happen and he he knew what would happen.

[00:25:31]>> He knew what but that's what I mean at at what cost. So in order to get the success >> the cost of about a million subscriptions.

[00:25:37]>> Yeah. And then there's that cost of you know trading out your people.

[00:25:41]>> Who do they who they lose?

[00:25:42]>> Us bro. No >> six of us in the room.

[00:25:46]>> [ __ ] them.

[00:25:47]>> [ __ ] them. [ __ ] them.

[00:25:47]>> No. I get it, Al. But they're not going to they're going to they're not going to lose.

[00:25:51]>> I ain't canceling my nobody say all that [ __ ] I just I said he [ __ ] up. I didn't say that.

[00:25:59]>> Hey man, I heard Bird Box 2 coming out.

[00:26:02]>> We marching.

[00:26:05]>> That's enough of that. We're writing a Netflix you can't wait.

[00:26:16]If you don't take that young off your head and stop talking [ __ ] you going to [ __ ] it up all >> low key like the most human best solution here is instead of just feeding these races and letting them grow stronger like Voldemort in a little layer getting all their racist juices, you know that we should just make our own thing.

[00:26:33]>> Yeah, >> we we have >> we can't call we can't call it we'll call it Habachi.

[00:26:39]>> We call it we'll call it a hot pocket.

[00:26:41]But I I always thought that that those kind of things should be populated with people that know you, that like you have an affinity for you, and it isn't about like obviously you want hard-hitting jokes, but you want it to be people that kind of know each other, not not necessarily higher guns coming together to see who does what.

[00:27:03]>> Yeah. Um I don't think you know a rose we could go but I do think that there is something to be said. I used to love even when I was young I didn't know what you know what that was but I knew that I laughed.

[00:27:19]I knew that those people liked each other even though sometimes it made me wse. It never made me cringe.

[00:27:24]>> Yeah.

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[00:27:32]email us. But even like even if you remember the friars roast and what we got in trouble for Ted J like the the black fa like it was it was like but all of that there's always been a level of controversy involved in comedians talking [ __ ] and and being unvarnished.

[00:27:49]I just didn't. Now it's shifted to this thing where um I think there has to be and and I've always said there is a victim for every joke, but I don't want it to be the same ones all the time.

[00:28:02]>> Yeah. But I mean low key like if they go shoot a porn they're going to be like this is what I'm comfortable with. This is what I'm not. Like I don't see why it's that hard to do.

[00:28:10]>> I didn't know that they did that.

[00:28:12]I was about to say >> we don't have to talk about my past life.

[00:28:16]>> Why was that? I didn't know that was the first example. You had so many examples. But you know, you know, >> I felt uncomfortable with that right there. I feel like a fluffer when you said that. I'm like, what is he?

[00:28:29]>> If you just so happen to want to shoot, >> even when they do porn, what are we saying?

[00:28:34]>> What are we saying?

[00:28:35]>> What are we saying?

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[00:31:13]>> You know what I what is a fairly common refrain in this country you what kind of is uh I like Cheyenne Bryant. I do. I think she's I don't I take her I take her for what she is. I don't I don't I don't think I don't I never thought that she like cuz you can call yourself that.

[00:31:30]I think she's entertaining.

[00:31:33]>> I think she's interesting. I think she's fly. I I just I don't think that um like this whole thing about uh her and having to show her, you know, her credentials.

[00:31:46]That's a black woman thing. I don't care who you are.

[00:31:49]>> Yeah.

[00:31:49]>> Uh uh you know, you could be uh Sheila Jackson. No, no, she was actually uh >> Katanji Brown.

[00:31:56]>> Katanji Brown Jackson.

[00:31:58]>> Yeah.

[00:31:59]>> One of the most accomplished jurists on the Supreme Court.

[00:32:03]>> Tucker Carlson asked to see her her her G >> SAT score. Let me see your [ __ ] >> So that's that's common for everybody. I think that you we live in a world where if you are black, you can go to school, you can have experience, but people are still going to question your qualifications. If you white, you could be a podcast or a game show host and still get the same thing.

[00:32:25]>> So, I don't think I I'm not angry. I I think that one of the things that was interesting to me is like I can't believe that people are asking to see everybody when you go into a doctor's office, somebody even if they're working with your mind or your body. If they're a mechanic, they show you on the wall.

[00:32:40]They see Yeah.

[00:32:42]>> Yeah. You're right.

[00:32:43]>> You're not going to walk into somebody and they want to divide [ __ ] if you like. So I think but I do think it's disingenuous to believe that they ask people if you're dealing with somebody's mind, if you're dealing with somebody's physical uh well-being, you you should you should be trained for it. But ultimately, if she's a life coach, and let me tell you something, I I don't give a [ __ ] what you are. If you look like that in the bikini, I'm probably going to listen to you. I'm probably going to listen to what you say.

[00:33:09]>> I mean, I think the problem for for me, listen, she can call whatever she wants, >> but I think it's on her IG page. I'm sure you It's on my IG page. That's not the point.

[00:33:18]>> But the thing is for this is how it right there. It discredits a lot of people who really are licensed therapists and psychologists, right? We remember the story about the the teen in Florida who who said he was a doctor, too. Well, he went to jail.

[00:33:33]>> Now, I'm not suggesting she should go to jail.

[00:33:36]>> Not looking like that. I don't remember THAT GUY. HE FOOLED EVERYBODY OUT. He was working there for like two years.

[00:33:42]You can't call yourself a doctor like a I know you're a doctor of humane letters or something like that.

[00:33:48]>> I have a I have a doctor degree from degree.

[00:33:50]>> So you got to throw that in there like that. The minute you tell the doctor I'm like >> I have a doctorate from Colia.

[00:33:57]>> I think it's school of broadcasting. Not the real one.

[00:34:02]>> Honorary that means you didn't >> the one on Willox. Not the one. If she had just called herself a life coach or something like that wouldn't have been a problem. But she was actually giving out advice like a doctor, like a psychologist.

[00:34:15]>> But that's more but that's indicative of the time.

[00:34:17]>> No, you can't do that.

[00:34:19]>> We got a podcast telling us what to do about a [ __ ] virus about it's illegal to call yourself a doctor and practice in any capacity.

[00:34:30]>> Well, it should be to call yourself a Christian and not act Christlike.

[00:34:33]>> But that's not illegal, unfortunately.

[00:34:35]So I I I I but but we live in a society right now where more CRE is given to you if you on the internet than if you went to school for something. They think that you know more because you found some [ __ ] study on Hey man, we have a right now where a dude who never went to school, who never studied medicine at all, is in charge of health and human services. M >> we we we live in a world right now where podcasters were telling people how to deal with a worldwide pandemic.

[00:35:06]>> So in that ve in the vein and I'm not I'm not agreeing that it is appropriate.

[00:35:10]It is indicative of where we are right now.

[00:35:12]>> No, I get it. But if you're going to social media or Instagram or Tik Tok for any kind of medical advice, that's already questionable. I mean again I think that in regards to if she has a PhD which I think all of this started because she could not she could not >> from what I saw >> provide credentials >> from research I saw that she has a PhD >> dissertation yeah all she's beautiful she's beautiful and she's she's a New York Times bestseller I think I know she's written a book she's done very well she's got millions of followers on social media so I'm not knocking whatever advice why she's giving it must be working, right? And if if she is a doctor in terms of a PhD, that's one thing, but you can't call yourself a a therapist if you're not a licensed >> is what Nick Cannon's therapist.

[00:36:00]>> Yeah.

[00:36:02]>> Well, she they didn't work out they didn't work out on pullout therapy. I know that I was just about to say >> she she worked with him and can not on a god wasn't.

[00:36:15]Look, some of these kids should have ended up in a napkin. Let me just say that you baby. Oh my god.

[00:36:24]>> Um when when Amanda when Amanda this is like Amanda's always kind of she says the most interesting thing. She's like well I had her on my show and she but of course a woman who diagnose herself with Asberger synd if you can diagnose yourself what the [ __ ] you need a doctor for. I'll write my own prescription. I know what's wrong with me. But it's it's where we are right now.

[00:36:49]>> It is where we are. And you and by the way, you could you can be brilliant and still not actually be a licensed therapist. You can be brilliant.

[00:36:57]>> Well, I tell you what, if Freud I tell you what, if Freud would look like that in a swimsuit, he sold a lot more books. I know that's >> I feel like Better Help should be giving us money at this point.

[00:37:09]>> Yeah, that's something.

[00:37:10]>> So we can refer her old patients to licensed clinicians. Better Help, please. It is mental health awareness month. It is mental health awareness month.

[00:37:18]>> One of them women who like wants to get by on her intellect and like her hard work and her professionalism and all that kind of stuff and it cheapens what I do to and I'm I want to be Yeah. Okay.

[00:37:29]All of that is great.

[00:37:30]>> Yeah. But >> but I have credentials.

[00:37:33]>> But I was about to say you do have your you do have you do have the papers.

[00:37:39]>> So the school is still standing.

[00:37:41]>> Maybe if I dress like this they won't ask.

[00:37:44]That's what That's what I'm saying.

[00:37:46]>> Why don't we also get honorary degrees for Columbia?

[00:37:48]>> Well, apparently they giving them out of Victoria's Secret.

[00:37:52]>> You think about that. She got 3.5 million followers before someone even asked.

[00:37:57]>> Hey, are you really a doctor?

[00:38:00]>> And that's where we she been out here for 5 years. Ain't nobody ASKED FOR [ __ ] >> WAIT A MINUTE.

[00:38:08]before I divulge my deepest darker secret and get on this medication. You >> just watch her in like a month being like the only way to solve this is to start a school.

[00:38:20]>> Hey man, you know, but that's where we are right now. Like like >> we live I live of course this is LA and the mayor races between Karen. Now this is the thing I I've always been saying about so Karen B. I've lived here my entire life and I've seen some good males in some bad marriage. But the things that the the things that they put on Karen homeless has been around since the 1970s.

[00:38:44]It used to be expose and and news crews coming out looking at tin city and skid was famous for the the mission. There's a mission here that became famous for that.

[00:38:55]>> Right.

[00:38:55]>> That has been around for 60 years. All of a sudden it's because of the first term black female mayor.

[00:39:03]>> Yeah. And I one of the things I find interesting about homelessness, do you know what directly correlates to homelessness? Wherever there are large populations of homeless, you know what they are large populations of?

[00:39:15]Billionaires and billionaires.

[00:39:16]Millionaires and billionaires. The two largest homeless populations are New York and LA. And guess what? They have most of the billionaires and millionaires and billions. That's not an accident. I think it's because you cannot satisfy the wealthy. We only have and I think there are all these things that go through like one dude on my page said, "Well, you know, it just means we have a whole lot of uh bad politicians who rich people control, >> right? If you're very wealthy, like if you if you have all of this money, there is no excuse for us having the problems we have except we don't want to do anything about we inherently think like on Fox News during the summer, last summer, they were talking about euthanizing them.

[00:40:02]>> Get them lethal injections.

[00:40:04]>> Yeah.

[00:40:04]>> We co-opt the language of the poor, but we despise them. The reason we have poor is because rich people cannot be satiated and it it's it's it's a it's so if if it's and and one of the thing reason you have and and you're more likely to do well if you're unhoused around wealthy people because just proximity of that is better like the homelessness is bad here because of the weather in New York. I don't get why like like I don't get why that is cuz it's cold a lot. But the the thing that is unassalable is that there are wherever there are a lot of millionaires and billionaires they're going to be if you look at in the top five San Francisco, New York, and LA are in the top five wealthy cities with the most billionaires. And guess what? They have the largest homeless population.

[00:40:53]>> Yeah. It's so interesting, too. I saw where uh allegedly uh Leonardo DiCaprio, Jamie Fox, and Dennis Quay quietly support Spencer Pratt.

[00:41:06]>> Damn.

[00:41:06]>> I mean, >> I'm never going to Listen, >> allegedly, >> we didn't we didn't we didn't learn from the last game show host who had a job he shouldn't have, >> right?

[00:41:16]>> We didn't learn from that. We don't know. We're not learning a lesson right now. this dude uh he he he'll tell me what the problem is, but it never is remedy. And I think that that was what what what Donald Trump did. First off, California is the is the fourth largest economy in the world, and we going to put a game show host in charge of it.

[00:41:36]>> Yeah. And he's paring the same types of stuff that Trump does. You know, he's the way he's dogging out Karen Bass, saying she she's doing something illegal and she was responsible for the fires and then this whole thingless people.

[00:41:49]Here's the thing. If she was responsible for the fire, then was she responsible for Aladena?

[00:41:56]When there was a Paradise fire up north that decimated her, was she responsible for that? When there are fires in Georgia and Texas, she responsible for that. It is because the truth of the matter is they think white is enough.

[00:42:09]>> We are in Iran right now. We're in trouble with Iran right now cuz you have exceptional brown people that are at war with mediocre white dudes. M right.

[00:42:19]>> No, we can have an argument about all we want.

[00:42:21]>> I would say that whoever is leading their army is probably more competent than people who are leading ours because if you take the mightiest military on the face of the earth and you fight them to a standstill and you you're having them make an argument about how we can sue for peace. It reminds me of uh of the movie with uh with uh the kingdom of heaven >> and he was talking to the uh this right here. destroy it.

[00:42:45]>> Every stone and every Christian knight you kill will take 10 sariss with him.

[00:42:51]You will destroy your army here and never raise another. I swear to God that to take this city will be the end of you. That's what they've done. They put themselves in a position where they're suing for peace.

[00:43:04]They're suing for peace. Everybody else knew that this would happen except this dude. We got to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon. Well, the other presidents did. They didn't do what you were doing.

[00:43:15]>> You thought it would be special. You will never [ __ ] prosecute a war properly with Pete Hexmith as your secretary of war. It'll never happen, >> right? And and then honestly to to take it further, you know, um I think this is just a grand kind of analogy of everything going on in society, right?

[00:43:32]And so >> even if things went well, like if we look at Russia, there's what 1.5 million Russians that have died in Ukraine to gain what? Like how many miles of land?

[00:43:41]That's nothing. So, like realistically, I feel like war in 2026 is just the only people who are getting rich are just the people who are making the drones, the people who are making the weapons, and then all of us get our gas prices up, get pitted against each other, and then it's all of us against the billionaires.

[00:43:56]It >> But but they that's that is the thing.

[00:43:59]What did we gain?

[00:44:01]And and as as this is going on, as we are seeing what incompetence looks like, we are now actively contemplating whether we put a similar guy in the largest media market in the country.

[00:44:16]>> And it's qualification. I was on a game show and I see homeless people. So do I.

[00:44:22]So do I. It's what we do about them. The truth of the matter is, you can't be a country this wealthy. You can't do two things. You can't tell me how what they are and how Christlike you are and have these kind of these the these things go on. You can't tell me that you love God and you love your fellow man and you're a Christian and watch these things happen. It's like what's happening in Texas right now. This is a true story.

[00:44:42]There is a Christian who was in a battle for the cy with a crook and the crook is slated to win.

[00:44:51]>> Easy.

[00:44:52]>> We've lost all pretense of pretending like we're a moral society. Ken Paxton together, Ken Paxton and Donald Trump got more fellies than my whole neighborhood combined. And it's the fives in Los Angeles >> and they're trying to wipe the whole internet with all kinds and stuff.

[00:45:09]>> Right.

[00:45:10]>> Of course. So stop. And and we were always believed, we always were raised to believe if you follow law, if you play fair, if you do. And they never believed it. literally a guy right now who was the top law enforcement uh uh uh officer in a state is corrupt. He was he and who let pedophiles run rampant and and he was endorsed by a dude who's corrupt and who let pedophiles run rampant.

[00:45:40]>> Who did the same [ __ ] that he did?

[00:45:43]>> It's it's it's but that's where we are right now.

[00:45:46]>> That is where we are.

[00:45:47]>> That is crazy though.

[00:45:48]>> It's where we are. Like you don't expect it's going to be a UFC fight at the [ __ ] White House.

[00:45:54]>> It is.

[00:45:55]>> It's going to be a UFC fight at the White House.

[00:45:59]It's Donald Trump is >> You didn't need a ballroom for that one, >> right? He's tripping this country for his parts.

[00:46:05]>> Yeah, 100%.

[00:46:06]>> He is. He's turned his The White House is the biggest trailer park in the world right now.

[00:46:14]>> Easy.

[00:46:14]>> It really The the the the White House is a devil wide. It's what it is. It's like look at all the things that this country will accept that it never would before.

[00:46:23]Like when I heard him talking about the slush fund for 1.2, you know, $1.8 billion and and and if you believe that they their service is that meritorious, you made $6 billion. Pay them two of yours.

[00:46:38]Why do you need to The American people don't have that same value. It's it's people out here that can't afford to eat. It is it is it's so bad that that barbecue places are closing because they can't afford meat.

[00:46:52]>> Yeah. Everything is more like >> bank like farms are bankrupt and you are giving money to dudes who [ __ ] all over the capital build gall and threat to kill people and you tell me about crime. That's the thing man. This it is we are right now.

[00:47:11]The one thing I can appreciate about this administration and I think it is the most noteworthy thing I can say.

[00:47:20]They have shown what this country will tolerate.

[00:47:25]They have shown what this country would tolerate >> if you white.

[00:47:28]>> If you white >> I was about to just get that.

[00:47:30]>> A [ __ ] can't wear a tan suit.

[00:47:32]>> I was just about to say a [ __ ] can't even wear tan suit.

[00:47:34]>> Yeah, you can't wear a tan suit.

[00:47:37]You got some runway.

[00:47:39]>> It is.

[00:47:40]>> It's it's the most amazing thing. They will tolerate anything. It's like you we are now seeing how desperately this country and and even after this is the most salient thing, even after all of this is over, the war is over. Um you know, there's relative calm until he attacks another country. We're gonna get right back to ICE beating the [ __ ] out of American citizens and American cities being invaded by American troops.

[00:48:18]What a time to be alive. All right, that is uncertain for the week. Um, this this episode shows that even though you're underlings, >> who are you talking to?

[00:48:33]I'm going let Miss Jazz I'm let Miss Jazz >> even though people you work with >> disagree with you, you let this speak.

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