SoAfrican & Blac Volta Exposed. What This Means to the "Elite" in Society

Added: 2026-05-23

[00:00:04]Hello everybody. We are back again with another episode and I'm here with Taylor Marque as usual.

[00:00:10]>> Yes, it's crime crime and then there's this popular notion with um public figures where and when we go through something or there's a scandal or something we're like oh >> in 3 days it's done and then we can move on with our life. But then there have been certain things happening recently that I don't think it's like those type of things. Yeah, that should be like that.

[00:00:30]>> I think it's just a Ghanian thing, you know, we talk about it for a minute and then we leave it >> and then we move to another thing.

[00:00:37]>> Yeah, that's why we are here to expiate on it in case you have missed it or you don't know what exactly is going on.

[00:00:41]We're going to give a recap of what has been happening recently in the country and as usual Marik is going to explain to us. I was quiet because I wanted to ask Marik certain questions cuz I don't know when you ask questions online it's like you are with with it. So I I decided that you know what let me not go and ask >> let me chill >> let me chill let me just come and ask her because you guys get me cuz if you watch a pattern of our episodes I always ask has have there been psychological I went to ask on Twitter >> and trouble >> trouble so I was like no let me come on the um the podcast and then Marik will explain everything to us. to Marik. Take your >> I know people have seen or heard this story. You probably seen um stories and episodes from some of your favorite YouTubers about this particular topic we're about to talk about. But this is a different dimension. Uh we are not coming to do a gossip thing. We are coming to talk about something serious. We come to lay down the fact. We are come to extend it >> Mhm. to what is happening in the country generally with regards to the the the the subjects in in in in focus. So, a few weeks ago, um, the C boss had a presser to basically talk about some crimes that were happening.

[00:02:06]And when the when when the story dropped or when the press app was done and some of the videos started coming online and there were articles online talking about it, there was a name that came up Joshua and people started linking it. Now, I think what made or help people connect it was um there's for people on Tik Tok, there's a a lady on Tik Tok who does videos with her daughters. I'm not going to put out the account name because they are not the people in focus, but there have been times where she would have her brother on >> and she would mention the brother's name. Mhm.

[00:03:00]>> And so when the story started coming up, people started connecting the dots and eventually we all got to know that Joshua Bati is a man popularly known as So African.

[00:03:14]>> Now for some of us in the fashion space, this is someone we we knew >> the influencer space too. We know him.

[00:03:20]>> Exactly.

[00:03:21]>> Because he's on the streets. Um for some people would say he's fashionable and his style is unique and I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of people in the fashion space even knew him.

[00:03:34]>> Then also he eventually started his own fashion >> brand or label >> and I think a few just this year I think maybe in February or March there were some Jesus Ghanaian Ghana team Jes >> and people were talking about the pricing. I had to even go and you know argue with people about the pricing. To me it was fair.

[00:03:57]>> Mhm.

[00:03:58]>> Um so people got to know about it and the story started coming up and of course the discussions on social media started.

[00:04:06]Now basically the CO says that the cyber crime unit of the of the Ghana Police and the National Bureau of Investigations which is the the NIB >> Mhm. They got some sort of report from another law enforcement agency outside of Ghana about some syndicates that is disseminating explicit sexual explicitism consent um content on on Telegram under a group name called VIP sleep fetish.

[00:04:49]Now this comes at the back of an already existing story that came up early this year from BBC. It was a documentary where they sort of explored these particular subjects about people men who had created groups on social media, Telegram, WhatsApp who were just sharing >> images of either their girlfriends. They were these ones were actually their girlfriends or wives or people they had a relationship with who were sleeping and they would take a pictures pictures of them and share it.

[00:05:21]>> It wasn't sexual like they weren't having any sexual but they were these women were sleeping >> and they would take pictures of them sleeping or they would be naked and they take pictures of it and they put it >> that's one of the questions I wanted to ask you. You know the name of this the telegram group was vip sleep fetish >> sleep fetish. So I was wondering is it sexual videos he was posting there or videos of women sleeping >> from from what the C boss said >> Mhm.

[00:05:50]>> it is it is both.

[00:05:53]>> Oh both.

[00:05:54]>> Yeah. So >> okay >> because if I remember correctly she said that after these women were dragged >> he had sexual relations with them without their consent and then take pictures of them. So I think it was both >> for at least for some of the victims. M >> I wouldn't say all of them >> but some of the victims that's what happened >> and they joined the group. So some people joined the group.

[00:06:16]>> So I think it's a subscription based group.

[00:06:19]>> Yeah that's what I'm saying. So people join >> people join the group to force that kind of content.

[00:06:23]>> Women sleeping.

[00:06:24]>> Yeah. For that kind of content.

[00:06:25]>> But what is >> so I mean I guess when the story came people were asking you it's like yeah there's a reason why they probably named it fetish because >> this whole thing makes no sense. Yeah.

[00:06:39]>> But back back to the story, apparently >> during um the dirt 30 December in two 2005, >> some of some of the diaspora people who came into the country, you know, met him, they had a relation sort of and usually from what the C boss said there, he met his his to modi was to go to the clubs. I mean, we all know that he frequents clubs and stuff.

[00:07:10]>> So, he would talk to some of these ladies or, you know, and then >> he'll drag them.

[00:07:15]>> It's not clear whether he dragged them there >> or he dragged them when they go to his house.

[00:07:21]>> That is not explained.

[00:07:22]>> Mhm.

[00:07:24]>> It's not clear whether he spiked their drinks in the club or they have a normal relationship. Hey, you know, let's go to my house and then when they get to the house, >> I don't know. I feel like looking at the circumstance, the possibility of he dragging them before they get to their house is higher because if they already agreed to do anything, why would he need to drag them to do things with them?

[00:07:46]>> I mean, may maybe not necessarily do anything but also also >> you know if so let let me let me let me let me put this down first and then it would help explain. So >> when the police arrested South African on the 6th of May, they they went to his house, they found some stuff and they they found already used sashi or of some of the drugs that he's like now >> they found two drugs.

[00:08:21]>> Mhm.

[00:08:22]>> Right. Two drugs. One is arrazulum and then the other is I think >> is it Xanax?

[00:08:31]>> Yeah, Mazulum. So they they are both in there.

[00:08:34]>> So the generic name is Xanax, >> right? But these are brand names, right?

[00:08:41]Now the myazulam is how do I put it? So that one causes sleepiness and it also sort of causes aminesia.

[00:08:55]>> Yeah. And then it can make you forget >> what happened.

[00:08:58]>> Yeah. Some me some memories. Right. Then >> um arrazolam is also sort of like the same but that one acts mainly on on your anxiety and calms you down. Right. So now these are two drugs um in the same group but they operate differently. One is like a calming >> drug makes you drowsy.

[00:09:23]>> Then there's other one that makes you put you in a position where you forget certain parts of your memory or Yes. So like now coming back to your question even if they agreed that something was going to happen I mean it wasn't going to happen in how he probably would have wanted it >> take it >> now >> he's not convicted so these are all alleged >> but he probably will not want to >> he probably as a woman will not want to do things the way he wants to because now he has to take pictures and videos you're not going to lie Exactly. And you know one thing I think I think men don't really understand women's bodies and so we feel like there are certain things that you can easily do to a woman without them noticing because yeah you have given them drugs and blah blah blah but >> as a woman and I'm sure you would you you You feel something even when you're up like after sleeping some time.

[00:10:34]>> So I think what happened then was these women eventually were not sure what had happened but eventually they went back to their countries.

[00:10:41]>> Mhm. And then they realized n something something definitely had gone wrong and they probably spoke amongst themselves and realized something had gone on and they reported it >> to their local police and then it got picked up by the intelligence body and they started investigating and found that there's a telegram group like that called the VIP sleep fetish like I mentioned which they now were able to link it to Joshua Bi and then They reported it to the Ghana police like, "Yo, we have been doing an investigation about your syndicates blah blah blah and we we have evidence and connected it to this guy in your country called Joshua Bort who is so African."

[00:11:30]And so the they two the cyber crime unit and the NIB National Investigation Bureau did their thing >> and that is when they were able to now connect the dots and go for him. So that's why >> they found a phone that they believe he he was using for that telegram.

[00:11:52]>> They found SD card. They found an SD card. They found like a hard drive.

[00:11:57]>> Mhm.

[00:11:57]>> It's not clear what's on there, but if he was doing this for long, obviously some of these videos will be on there.

[00:12:03]>> And so they have his two phones.

[00:12:05]>> They have this hard drive. And then he found the used >> the drugs.

[00:12:10]>> The drugs and some of them which were already used.

[00:12:14]>> Now the whole thing is crazy to me like >> things are happening amongst the elite.

[00:12:20]>> Oh yeah.

[00:12:20]>> The elite because >> we've never heard this before. So it's like how did he create the channel to know that he will get subscribers who like this and then the subscribers are quiet amongst themselves now. We never heard it till >> this arrest happened. this arrest happened and then I'm wondering were there no Ghanaian victims?

[00:12:40]>> How come it had to happen to foreigners or his targets are just foreigners?

[00:12:44]>> So now me connecting the dots when I started like reading about this and listening to all the pieces.

[00:12:52]>> It felt like so it's clear that based on the reports this thing kicked off properly during December.

[00:13:01]>> We don't know what he was doing prior to that. Mhm.

[00:13:05]>> But this particular Telegram page and these videos kicked off properly because that's when he started and I'm not trying to be for lack of a better word foolish or anything. He started creating content >> this kind of content for this page >> for these people, >> right? Uhhuh. So, and the C boys did not say anything about Ghanian victims. But I I am I am believing that a lot would be the diaspora, >> a lot of the victims will be the diaspora >> cuz you know when I saw um her her press release and it makes me sad that this was the first thought that came into my head but once I saw the release I was like I hadn't watched it. I saw the caption and I was like that's I didn't even think it was I was like because you know they don't do this for Ghanaians. So I was like it was like okay makes sense and it makes me sad that I thought about the and then I I assume that it should be somebody in high position for it to be taken seriously like that.

[00:14:13]I mean, I'm also thinking, right, I'm also thinking based on what we've heard so far about the case that he purposefully chose these women because they are going to go through what they go through and go back to their countries, >> right? I mean even with them I mean this is not like you said fine there's that issue but even as a diasporan if you report an an issue of a sexual [ __ ] and stuff like >> bro by the time they start looking into it and stuff you came for 30 December >> you have to go in January >> work is waiting for you not going to stick around to see how it goes >> so I am thinking that >> that's why >> if he did what he did then he purposefully chose this victims >> also if there were Ghanaian victims My thing will be where you go like fine you go and report to do and blah blah >> that's what I'm talking that's what I'm saying it makes me sad that once I saw a press release of them talking about people being raped I'm like is this some rich man's this thing because the average person wouldn't get that >> or maybe they will I don't like I've never really seen this type of >> I mean based on what we've come to >> okay well maybe you said new person It's a new person. So maybe it's going to be something that is going to be off. So we hope that like this is something >> I think generally right I think this particular incident is going to be a trigger for the cyber crime unit >> to properly look into some of these things.

[00:15:50]>> In fact just um when just two days ago I saw a story of a man who had been arrested for something like that in Ghana. Mhm.

[00:15:58]>> Right.

[00:15:59]>> He to the same thing.

[00:16:01]>> Dragging people.

[00:16:01]>> No, he wasn't dragged, but he he he like sent sexually explicit to people he had incident like sexual encounters with and stuff like that.

[00:16:10]>> So, um for me, I think even the departments being set up, the psych cyber crime units alone being set up to investigate some of these issues >> shows me that they are really trying to >> continue effort. Yeah. Unfortunately, this report did not or this investigation was not triggered by a report they received from here, >> Ghana. Yes.

[00:16:33]>> Right. But either way, they still Yeah.

[00:16:36]But they still put in effort. They put in effort. Yeah. So that's that's that's a good like it's a good stepping stone to this. But um that telegram place since I was like when I completed uni it has been a place where they've been sharing girls this thing like there's a whole you know other apps like you can't go and do that on Tik Tok. So you know in fact telegram themselves has been going through couple of legal issues >> regarding how unsafe their platform is >> right and yeah they keep saying that they working around around it and blah blah blah and then but yeah there are lot of there are a lot of things like >> yeah everybody says oh go check my telegram channel but how >> and you see sometimes sometimes they say you hear that there's some sex tips somewhere where and then and they post they post post about it on Twitter and then people will be putting telegram >> they'll say go to your telegram >> so it looks like >> it's clear that that platform >> that's where you can do everything without getting accounts banned you can it's gone on for too long like it's okay it's ruining people's lives >> so I think that's that's where it's is easy over there but they have been facing legal issues and stuff >> now I this thing is crazy to me coming back to this story. It's crazy to me because >> was he obviously for them to have seen drugs these kind of drugs there at the time he searched and also seeing the the used the sache of used ones over there.

[00:18:12]Was he still producing these kind of videos?

[00:18:17]And what h what h have did the the her last his last victims the videos of his last victims ever even make it to the telegram page because >> yeah we know that he started in December but what was the plan was he going to continue till because he has to keep the page alive >> and again >> for them to have found those drugs at that time >> the group was called VIP 2025 >> so maybe they started 26 to you they open a group for that too. Have they really spoken extensively about what they found on the phone so far? Then I think maybe they'll find out they have now picked it up. So I think all these will come up when he makes his court up.

[00:18:59]>> But do we know when he'll be going to court in these days?

[00:19:01]>> It's not come out yet, but eventually it will come. We know we know.

[00:19:05]>> So right now he's in cells or he's >> he's in cells.

[00:19:08]>> No, but the place he I eventually it will come up.

[00:19:14]>> It will come up. I'm sure people know.

[00:19:16]>> Mhm.

[00:19:16]>> And we'll find out.

[00:19:18]>> He's a sick individual. Like I never expected it.

[00:19:21]>> People will be there. People will be there.

[00:19:22]>> Are we have to be there? You have to be there. No, but like >> you never you see you know there are some people right me I have this this this notion with people >> when I see a man and like and then it has happened a lot on Twitter right the pattern of people that keep getting exposed for these type of things they usually see you the first day and be telling you that follow me home but you see me right >> I think it's so ridiculous I assume you are joking because why do you why do you think I'll follow you home so me I think you are joking, but like I've realized I said partying with those people that keep saying that, but this guy >> well I I never really spoken to him in real life before. So maybe I would have heard that from him, but like I'm so surprised. You see, not just him, but like the way he carries himself and things.

[00:20:13]There are some like I'm just shocked that like >> and then quote unquote because quote unquote you see them online you feel like oh cuz I I I first I thought he was a sick individual. He wasn't doing it for money like he's just a stupid guy doing something like that.

[00:20:32]But then I found out it's a subscription thing. So he's actually doing it for money. So that is what he has decided to his hustle to be like you feel me and it's like >> now so let me step in a bit. So with that yeah with that I think I think it could also just mean that he's doing it for the thrill of it.

[00:20:55]>> I mean obviously for him to go through that length of getting these videos >> Yeah.

[00:21:00]>> he it cannot be free content.

[00:21:02]>> Yeah. And I'm not sure even if he's taking money. I'm not sure how many people are in the group.

[00:21:07]>> But even if it's 200 people, 500 people and they're paying what,000, whatever, I'm I'm not sure that was the initial plan.

[00:21:18]>> It was just some sick >> sick and and then the money came in.

[00:21:23]Now, one of the issues that came up and you know it's been something that people have been discussing and people might not agree with me but it's something I wanted to talk about and I think for a lot of women it's strange to them. Now when the story started coming up people were saying ah ah you you be nice boy you get money you know you are popular why would you do this and there were women and some people in general just people in general complaining ah what do you mean are you saying that rich people don't rape people women and and that's the thing like people are missing the point you see how you said that the packaging really get you it's it's it's just the initial reaction that comes to people's mind that ah how is this guy into this?

[00:22:11]>> Mhm.

[00:22:11]>> Because as men >> as men and this is a general rule.

[00:22:16]>> Mhm.

[00:22:17]>> You are most likely going to attract men if you are either rich, popular or handsome.

[00:22:24]>> Mhm.

[00:22:24]>> Right. And for some people they believe he probably has these three.

[00:22:29]>> He should not be stressing >> why he's handsome.

[00:22:32]>> I mean that's what people think.

[00:22:33]>> Oh okay. He should not be going through or stressing for in code sex. Now people have explained that and yes it's it's something that is researchable that when people rape people it's not necessarily about the sex. It's also the power play.

[00:22:51]Yes. True.

[00:22:51]>> Yeah. Yeah. That is it. That is why I I was confused, right? Because >> if a rich person if a random rich person I find out that a random rich person is doing this.

[00:23:01]>> Makes sense because a lot of times I hear that they have money and they don't know what to do again. So they start picking up some sick behaviors like um what's this guy's name like? This the dark man abroad. Yeah. So that makes sense. But then when I found out that he's doing it for the money, I was like ah. So then now now this is the part that confuses me >> because if he's doing it for I know that these people are very sick and they do this. So it's now now you are doing it for the money. So then you are packaging online you don't have money as you portray it to be and apparently even owes people.

[00:23:32]>> Yeah. I mean the stories have stories started coming up and stuff.

[00:23:35]>> Yeah. So it's like >> so I mean it could be both but I feel like the initial plan was the thrill >> was the thrill.

[00:23:41]>> It was the thrill and the fantasy and whatever. Um and then all these things started coming up.

[00:23:47]>> Yeah. And and and then with this story, I've realized that chal your your decisions in life don't only affect you.

[00:23:54]It it tends to like affect everybody around you because it's not everybody that is logical. A lot of people move about with emotions more than logic. So right now his family is affected by it.

[00:24:04]Like their comment is crazy. I I I wore the t-shirt when I went to Ivy because even I somebody said I should come and I should come and tell us more. tell you more about who was >> what do I know >> I found out I just I just like please like your >> it's it's crazy how is now everyone who is kind of like knew him or associated with him people are ah then you probably know something and that whole thing is weird to me bro >> because like >> there are people we are very close to >> that means that if something comes about say I know I knew it >> meanwhile see I don't even I don't even know where princess stays, you know, and and so sometimes these things come up.

[00:24:49]>> If if Marik and I would chat, I've seen some news and I'm sending to him. That's what >> honestly what we are talking about on the podcast. That's what we talk about in the DMs. News, news, news, news, news.

[00:24:57]>> Nothing personal. And so some of now people are catching heat for oh you probably know, you probably know me as I'm here. I don't even know myself.

[00:25:05]>> Oh, >> honestly, there are things I >> Headless is my boss. I don't know where he lives >> you know >> like so I feel like >> and then when he came up and people started talking about the family and how they are they feel sad that he has disgraced the family people were talking about oh what do you mean who cares about the family blah blah blah like bro this whole thing when things come up and we want people everyone to think the same way it doesn't work like that >> you've been saying this like let's have conversations explain to me explain to me why you don't think people should feel for the the ideological reason so that next time I'll also I'll not but then right now you're insulting me so I don't know the solution so right now where you go from there how many Ghanaians are on Twitter and you expect that every Ghanaian even if it was 2,000 people talking about this case at the time >> you want all the 2,000 people >> to reason like you >> to reason like you and only sympathize for the victims >> and not and you see the reason why is I think there's Something that about this that people are not really understanding. The reason why people talked about their family is because they are social media famous.

[00:26:17]>> Yes. And they are kind of wholesome on >> Yeah. kind of wholesome. It's like ah >> so it's like h it's normal when we we talked about parties case and stuff.

[00:26:26]>> Mhm.

[00:26:27]>> I've never seen anyone going to on social media to say ah I feel sorry for family. is because people don't have that kind of emotional >> connection with them. Yeah.

[00:26:40]>> The reason why some people are not exactly thinking about or were thinking about the victims in that moment was there's no face to even the victims. We don't even know who the victims are.

[00:26:53]Right.

[00:26:53]>> But some people some people were feeling for the victims which is why we were insulting Miss Black.

[00:26:59]>> Exactly.

[00:27:00]>> So African, >> you know. So it's like that I feel like for instance um when um is it loyon the lady the lady who went to some work trip with her boss in >> was it the one we spoke about the the security? the one that passed, >> right? People everyone was thinking about her because we had a face to >> this victim >> and there was that emotional connection, right? So, it was easy for people to all eventually think about her.

[00:27:39]>> So, when these things happen, I feel like people should understand the dynamics of these things and not feel like >> why are you doing this? Like >> you're invalid. It's not unrealistic that people will feel >> people will feel some sort of emotional connection with the his family who again like I said are >> Tik Tok famous or social media famous.

[00:28:01]>> She you know he has two young >> nieces who people see online >> and the woman herself has foundations that she helps people out and things. So people have built that kind of >> emotional connection with her. But then again, I also get from the other side because because now people are not like if if if it went on for too long, people wouldn't speak about >> the guy so African and the victims. Now, the whole thing would just be sympathy for the woman. So, I don't know. Maybe they feel they feel like it was a distraction to the main conversation.

[00:28:39]>> Honestly, I don't feel that. Look, if you go on social media right now, type so African news blogs, YouTube videos, it's all about the guy.

[00:28:52]>> It's all attacking the guy.

[00:28:54]>> It's all attacking the guy.

[00:28:55]>> Mhm.

[00:28:55]>> It's all attacking him. No one is necessarily This was like a spare of a moment thing where he's messed up the image of the family.

[00:29:06]>> Mhm.

[00:29:07]The reason why it it be it became a topic was because people were arguing about it >> and then now they kept recreating it.

[00:29:15]But a lot of people just said one >> one thing about it and then moved on to the next and then it was back to hey this guy the [ __ ] >> guy. Yeah. Now that was why eventually to the second part of this why that was why eventually it moved to black voter.

[00:29:31]>> Mhm.

[00:29:32]>> Because now people as much as you were saying that people were feeling sad for the family. People were also feeling mad about the incident to the point that he started now fishing out people who were close to him.

[00:29:45]>> Mhm. to the point that even you people now start calling you out and saying ah you probably know him or that because you were they saw your name to an event you were supposed to be there which you did not even >> I didn't even go >> and I remember that you when you came in fact when you came before all this incident >> before everything happened here we had a shoot and you came here and you said >> let me guys let me tell you now so now we are moving into black voters conversation now before this incident happened I came to work and I was like ah they mean 1% like what do you mean the 1% like it makes no sense but me I'm not part of the 1% because me I don't have money like that for you to add me to a 1% this thing so me I'm not going to go no matter what idea it is that you have the name just doesn't fit right because it's it moves you from being relatable to people and me as a brand my content is to relate to people right so it doesn't work for me like that so that's why I didn't go then this thing happens >> and all of a sudden And now they said, "Hey, your name is on the devil." Ah, when I when I tweeted about the guy, the the South African guy, I was like, "Ah, this guy is 36." Because that was the first time I heard >> his age because I've been seeing his video. He did a video with that guy that did roll with me, baby. And that guy is like 21. So expect their age gap to be that big and like 36 years in the night life like that. My brain bust. Yes.

[00:31:09]Because you are in the night life. So I was so surprised that he's old like that and the his sister doesn't even look old like that. So I was so shocked by the agent. Somebody quoted my tweet and said, "Hey, I thought you were part of the 1%."

[00:31:25]>> Trouble.

[00:31:26]>> Like why am I explaining something I have no idea about? Then people started digging out black voters. Do you have screenshots of that? I have a couple so we can post. Um there have been like rape tweet you know um back then that time people used to >> 2010 2011 >> yeah I wasn't on Twitter then I I came on Twitter 2017 but then yeah 2017 but apparently >> 2012 >> apparently that was the time people used to be crazy with their tweets because at that time me it's when I came on Twitter that I came to learn misogyny patriarchy all these things and then like started like changing my mindset on stuff right so apparently that time people used to go crazy so maybe there are certain things that you see that you're like oh time but this black voters tweet there are too many and he made certain tweets where he like his tweets wearing didn't come off as ignorant it came off like I know but I I don't want to do it certain tweets like hey >> is rape >> is rape a crime no need that one because that one is like he's asking but some questions like >> no when did rape become a when did rape become a crime yes one he was like if you cover her mouth so she doesn't scream >> scream it's not it's not real or something >> you aware you're aware of what it is but then you are you are tweeting about it and and like me I can't even understand >> so he one that he made he said um in the laws of Ghana sleeping with a 16 or a 17 year old is okay if you are below certain height >> if you're below 5T >> 5T so I am I am safe >> so there's Nothing funny about that.

[00:33:06]>> Aristocrats, thieves and pedophiles are my friends.

[00:33:10]>> Like >> some he can tweet some something and write #pedophile.

[00:33:15]>> So to step in a bit I for people who are not sure what Black Boa is. Now Black Bua is a brand that basically highlights the night life of Acra just the entertainment bit of Ara the fun part of Ara. Um it was started by someone called Joe who stepped in and started this as some sort of like a project, right?

[00:33:42]>> Mhm.

[00:33:43]>> There are extensive interviews about why he named it the black voter.

[00:33:47]>> Mh.

[00:33:48]>> Um but basically not eventually it grew from him alone to a brand. So there are right now there are management he has like a management team and stuff like that.

[00:33:59]>> Yeah. But here's the issue.

[00:34:03]When Black Va kicked off properly, I believe that he changed his personal Twitter account >> which was Projo >> to Black Va.

[00:34:14]>> Mhm.

[00:34:15]>> And somehow was running the business or the brand from that >> account that he he he his personal account. Right. Again, right now, Black Bu is not just about Joe.

[00:34:28]>> Mhm.

[00:34:29]It's a whole brand. It's a team.

[00:34:30]>> Yeah. He signed some influencers and stuff. It's like um entertainment team right now.

[00:34:35]>> It's like a whole team. And so it's unfortunate that now these things came up and it's messed up. But do you feel like >> do you feel like if he had another page >> Mhm.

[00:34:48]>> for black voter and then his handle was Joey, it will still not affect the black brand. It would it would have at the end of the day he's a he's a soul behind the brand right now going back to >> what you said about you know apparently in 2012 2010 2011 people were crazy about tweets and stuff. It it's true but it it I was there.

[00:35:12]>> Mhm. It it's not this kind of crazy that it was it was crazy like >> it was it was crazy like >> for instance someone will be playing with someone >> Mhm. And I use my word carefully like people followers or whatever who they know themselves and >> hey you don't want to come you don't want to come and see me hey me I'll rip you like that was like kind of crazy >> yeah they were that was like kind of crazy now >> it's 2010 2011 like you said >> 2010 most of his tweets were 2011 2011 year the the whole instit learning about rape culture and was in fact up until a few years ago there were people who used rape casually like for instance >> um let's say football.

[00:36:08]>> Mhm.

[00:36:08]>> Right.

[00:36:09]>> Maybe Barcelona and Real Madrid are going to play and boys will probably say hey today we go score you we go rape you.

[00:36:18]>> There was a Snapchat thing too. If like let's say I give you my Snapchats for you to take over. You say I'm going to rape your Snapchat. Yes. You see this was recent. So that was a kind of the fooling that we are talking about that the wild things that was the kind of >> but now the understanding of rape culture and all of these things. People are phased out. No one says I'm going to rape here.

[00:36:39]>> Yeah. Casually.

[00:36:40]>> Exactly.

[00:36:42]>> Right. So that was the kind of crazy.

[00:36:43]Now, unfortunately, even as as a guy who was who was wasn't wilding on there >> Mhm.

[00:36:50]>> and fooling and insulting and all of that, these tweets or posts come off as being aware of >> Yeah. of of of the severity of this this issue >> and you are trivializing it. for for for instance for for a tweet like um sexual laws on sexual crime or assault should be >> should be less to favor [ __ ] the real [ __ ] let me say the tweet properly. So he tweeted that um laws on rape should be revised so that can favor favor real [ __ ] like him >> like what are you talking about?

[00:37:31]>> Yeah. So I mean it >> but like what what what was going on for you blow on real yeah >> are you black vot you do yo you do your >> and unfort I think look I I I I look I I know I know the people behind black voter some of them are very cool with but that pressure that they released >> yes >> when people started calling them out >> yes and they should have released that 1% explanation the moment people were complaining But they didn't care.

[00:38:06]>> The whole this 1% thing should not even have been in the presser. Let's be honest.

[00:38:12]>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That is when they should have. But now that they now coming to talk about the we've moved past the 1% >> I don't think in my in my view in my opinion I don't think that when people started calling Black B out and you see for for a lot of people black is Joe.

[00:38:30]Mhm.

[00:38:32]>> They don't know it as a team as a brand.

[00:38:35]So when people started calling Black Voter out, >> I feel like in that panic, they put you put something together >> and I don't think as a team they they they consulted to find out what kind of right message they should put up >> because >> the whole thing was never about 1% or what project you were trying to do.

[00:38:57]Yeah.

[00:38:58]>> And also vaguely vaguely addressing the allegations and it wasn't even necessarily about so African was one of the reason why people were you know moving or attacking you but when people the tweet started coming up people focus shifted from what he should or black voter should say about so African rather than the post that came out >> and unfortunately those posts were not it wasn't addressed.

[00:39:30]>> Just move more to you know association with people who have been you know implicated in situations and the fact that they are going to be >> um very they are going to be careful about the people they work with and also that they are going to start like a whole thing where they talk about sexual violence which also was for me was not necessary. It's not your mandate at that time. Yeah, >> just talk about what you've realized >> and apologize for what >> is happening >> and then >> find another another day to you know >> but you know there are some some type this is not let me see this is not the type of apology you know that sometimes a presser right you drop that kind of press statement to to to maybe you insulted some minister or something but this one is too intense for you to just post some letter that like some letter me I feel like you should I don't even know what the solution >> here's I think there was no soul in it that's the word yes >> there was no soul there should be some remorse like an actual video because you've gone to you've gone to places to explain the meaning of your brand to do this to do that so if there's anything like you have to explain like I feel like like when headless explained that he wasn't paid to interview Nia Marquez it is a sens sensitive topic so it's necessary for you to address it and it's not by addressing by writing nobody will even read that whole thing but then you sit here genuinely explain >> what's happened where you are coming from because till now I still don't know what pushed you to make those >> and that is the issue like I said >> there's no satisfaction >> there's no soul to it and >> eventually when I mean we saw how someone like Naba >> yeah came >> came on >> now if a big brown with you >> and you see that's the thing And that's why I said that it's unfortunate that he has I mean obviously a Ghana with day the brand will run for a minute >> but oh Ghana we do >> but oh the brand will run for a minute >> I feel like this one >> he might lose certain privileges but it will run >> and like I said for me the brand had moved from Joe to this whole team that like I said some of if you are in the street you video you know you know this team if you are in the street you know this team you know the people who are in charge of certain things >> and now it's messed up for them right now after the incident their Twitter was taken suspended Instagram is gone >> no their Instagram is back >> it's back on >> yeah two days yesterday um somebody sent me a a screenshot they had posted that Republic Bar is now at Easton >> on on their main the black voter page you know they they are they have other pages.

[00:42:24]>> Okay. I didn't I didn't check.

[00:42:26]>> So So eventually when they started um diversifying their portfolio >> they they they created other sub >> sub um pages connected to it >> like black va bars or something and black lifestyle. So maybe maybe I would have to check in fact let me just let me just do it now so that it's is clear.

[00:42:52]Black Her.

[00:42:55]>> Yeah, >> it's back. It's back. It's back.

[00:42:58]>> Yeah, this what I saw.

[00:42:59]>> Yeah, it's back. It's back.

[00:43:01]>> So, now this is a brand This is a brand that do that thrives on on publicity.

[00:43:12]>> Mhm. So you need these accounts for you to be able to run a business because these clubs and these pubs and these joints and these brands that connect that reach out to you to publicize their their brand. You need that those pages to function.

[00:43:30]>> Mhm.

[00:43:31]>> Right.

[00:43:32]Um again like I said Ghana we did. So it might it might they might lose some privileges.

[00:43:40]>> I'm I'm even checking the comments right now. And you are right.

[00:43:43]>> Oh, it be Ghana day.

[00:43:44]>> Ghana Ghana >> because you see like for instance you know if you go to Tik Tok right now >> like yesterday I was scrolling on Tik Tok I eventually ended up on the page of her his sister so African sister and the the nieces and people are every video hey your brother is this this this your brother is this this this your brother is you're not going to see that over here.

[00:44:06]>> Yeah.

[00:44:07]>> You're not going to see that on black space about the rape tweets and all of that. And also we have to realize that Twitter as an app is very very different from Instagram. There are people look there are a lot of people on Instagram who are not on >> Twitter >> on Twitter necessarily. So unless and you see for black voters >> incident >> it has not necessarily been broadcasted by >> YouTubers and all of these like >> okay >> like so people don't haven't even grasps that something like that has happened >> right uhhuh so there's also that >> but again it began with if you see that they are doing their thing you should not necessarily be surprised >> it will it will go a long way this will go a long way to affect some partnerships >> Mhm. M >> like I'm sure someone like Nana now he has them on red and if any brand he she knows personally wants to work with them she'll she'll she she'll block that.

[00:45:13]>> Mhm.

[00:45:13]>> Right. And so for me that is the extent of how much they will lose >> like >> the the the kind of endorsements or privileges or commissions or work they will lose.

[00:45:26]>> Mhm. But beyond that, there are certain things that are going to run.

[00:45:30]>> Like if for instance, for instance, let me give you an example. If let's say Club Marik is run by some young dude who really just wants their club to run.

[00:45:43]They don't care that Black posted some tweets about rape 16 years ago.

[00:45:52]I'm I'm telling you this as facts. It's it's going to be the um so brands like the embassies, all these diaspora brands, you know, they might pull their their plug.

[00:46:07]>> Mhm. But for a lot of these clubs in Ara that they work with especially if the owners are not necessarily progressive or white >> or they are the part of the lead >> or they are also >> I need a little for you know they are also you know so I mean >> because you >> we shouldn't be surprised about that >> Charlie >> we shouldn't be surprised about that >> because the elites when these things come online you know they they are the elites No, think about it on Twitter. It's the elites that always getting these accusations. So, >> I don't know. I I I don't think it would. And also the fact that so was was one thing I was thinking about this these posts were on Twitter. I don't know if you can make a report to Instagram saying this account >> did this on Twitter.

[00:47:01]>> Oh, this is on Twitter and so for that ban the account on on on your platform.

[00:47:06]>> Mhm. is the same for Tik Tok and stuff.

[00:47:09]You I don't I'm not sure you can lift post from another platform to go and argue that the person is this way or whatever.

[00:47:15]>> And then the final bit of this when this thing happened, people were talking about h people were targeting Ghana police and the C boss and I didn't really want to say anything because at the time people were heated there's emotions but what are they going to do? Well, you can't you can't but it's a motive or >> you can't arrest someone for a motive unless you can tie it that the crime has happened.

[00:47:42]>> So like when we saw those tweet and people came out to say something like like let's say there was a victim like an actual victim that >> came out because at this point it's just an immoral it's just immoral and reckless >> tweets >> and insensitive to the platform.

[00:48:01]>> Mhm. But legally there's no like there's nothing you can unless like I said you can tie it to a crime that has happened like you go to now you arresting what are you going to charge him for and also because it wasn't directed to a person if it was directed to a person >> they can say cyber bullying or harassment or whatever for instance if they said uh um if I cover the mouth of a and I rape her it's But but there are some tweets where he said I covered her mouth. So now they can ask him who did he cover whose mouth did he cover.

[00:48:37]>> That that is not it's not it's not the his job to tell you his victim.

[00:48:45]>> Yeah. But I'm saying >> no but that's I'm saying it's not his job to tell you is you have to find out.

[00:48:50]>> You have to find out. And that's why in court they say the the whatever whatever lies on the prosecution. you you have charged a person for a crime.

[00:49:01]>> Mhm.

[00:49:01]>> I'm not going to give you information about the crime you said I've committed.

[00:49:05]>> Mhm.

[00:49:06]>> Allegedly. No. You have to go and do your investigation and find out the crime I've committed.

[00:49:10]>> So he he can also explain himself away that he was just being foolish or being reckless or he was just funing or whatever the word we use right now.

[00:49:21]>> And so there's really nothing to it.

[00:49:23]There's no legal angle to this to be honest >> unless any lawyer can >> put in a comments. Yes.

[00:49:29]>> But this for me as there's no legal angle to it.

[00:49:32]>> Me I feel like maybe those ones where he was saying hey is rape a crime d maybe those ones you can't pin it but the ones that he said he said that my 16 year sister friends are coming over blah blah blah. So that one he has said that he has done it. Okay.

[00:49:49]>> So now you have to find the 16 friends of the 16.

[00:49:51]>> Okay. Okay. Let's say today I tweet that I killed that man. I gutted him. I did this. I did that.

[00:49:58]>> Nothing will happen to me.

[00:49:59]>> Nothing will happen to you. Unless >> they find the man I >> unless they they can find and then they will use that tweet >> Mhm.

[00:50:05]>> that tweet >> Mhm.

[00:50:06]>> that you posted >> and connect it to the crime and say this means that she did it.

[00:50:11]>> I did it.

[00:50:11]>> And that's why for instance when rappers and stuff do their thing and say I a [ __ ] blah blah blah blah blah. It doesn't go anywhere until a crime has happened and then during in court the prosecution now can tie it to oh members of the jury in fact he did a song two days after >> the murder and he said that oh I get a and so this means that he had actually planned to do it and this the intent and blah blah blah but if I just say anything on a rap song or in any song >> Raana shot a man down.

[00:50:50]>> That's true.

[00:50:51]>> Where you song?

[00:50:52]>> No, it's singing. No, but it's all thoughts.

[00:50:56]>> As it stands now, we don't know if she shot a man down or she's just singing.

[00:51:00]Unless a man died that was connected to Rihanna and then the prosecution can say >> she said she actually sang a song, I shot a man down, blah blah blah. And so she did it. But you cannot charge someone for >> thoughts >> for thoughts alone. It has to be connected to a crime.

[00:51:22]>> So basically keep your thoughts in your head.

[00:51:24]>> Well, so maybe for these things that you're saying that he said, "Oh, sisters blah blah blah." They the police can do their investigation and say, "Okay, we are not even going to bother ourselves talking to him because he probably say he was joking. Let's find a friend sister >> or the friends of her sister of his sister who are now and we will ask these questions and confirm if he actually did this then now they have a crime and they can charge him for a crime.

[00:51:51]>> That's true.

[00:51:51]>> So that's unfortunately there's no legal angle to it honestly.

[00:51:54]>> But please let's normalize when you catch somebody doing something focus on that person and stop trying to pull in people inside it. Bro, you saw my name on the table. I'm an influencer. I get invited to >> plenty events. I can control where I go to but I can't control who tell me that come here and I will never know that oh this person is like this is coming is like this one or it's coming to print your name on the table because he's even said RSVP but I didn't RSVP >> by some reason you said by the end of the day the name is Amaban it's you can use it to package that oh even Amaban you know she's around to make your your thing look that's why somebody can even >> there's There will be a Netflix movie.

[00:52:40]Somebody even pass back door and go and then they'll go and add it that they were in this part of the movie cuz it's all part of the packaging. Like they will add it to their CV and everything.

[00:52:49]So please let's take our time and let's not involve like the what you you people don't understand what I do for you as an influencer. The type of gigs I reject for you people so that I don't come and say bad things for you to still be adding me to things of zero dignity.

[00:53:04]That's unfair. Don't do that. And I'm here crime like crime. Oh, we are 10,000 subscribers.

[00:53:09]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, I forgot to talk about that.

[00:53:11]>> Yes, we are 10,000 subscribers.

[00:53:13]>> Follow us. I mean, you have to get to 20,000 subscribers. When I used to be on a show where I'll be talking about random things about relationship. You people subscribe so fast.

[00:53:24]>> Today I'm talking about >> talking about serious issues.

[00:53:26]>> Serious issues. You are not subscribing.

[00:53:28]Please subscribe and let's let's learn on learn the things that we know and things. So if you are here, I'm sure if somebody is here right now and then maybe they don't they've not even raped anybody before but they were making rape jokes at least they'll know that it is it can potentially destroy your life even if it's a joke. So these are things that you have to learn and unlearn. A lot of us came online to come and learn a lot of things and we are very grateful that we took those things. So you follow us crime crime me I learn on the job as as I sit here and then learn on the job.

[00:53:59]If it's not because of this case, I never knew that somebody's on twist to see people sleeping.

[00:54:05]>> That's the >> But but this this this thing is out is in the west western countries. Oh yeah.

[00:54:10]>> Like I hear of certain fetishes like people wanting to beat you, you know, then things but you your own is to see >> sleeps a woman a naked woman sleeping.

[00:54:24]But which part of your the kind of brain?

[00:54:27]>> Yeah. the kind of the kind of crimes that people are involved in is just >> is crazy. It's like what is going on in your head?

[00:54:34]>> I I think there's a lot of sexual is that what's the word? Perveriness or whatever. There's like a lot of sexual craziness, madness, crimes about sex.

[00:54:46]>> That is so that's so weird.

[00:54:49]>> Yeah. Some people I heard also some people have rape fetish. Yes.

[00:54:52]>> So when they're having sex, you have to do it like you're coming to rape them.

[00:54:55]>> Yeah.

[00:54:56]So it's it's a whole it's a whole lot >> like there are people who are also they are not enticed when they are involved in the sexual act. They are enticed when other people are doing it.

[00:55:11]They are even further enticed when they see children doing it.

[00:55:16]that coming to this point where do people how do people access child pornography >> there's a dark web for I mean >> but can't can't this be taken down like I don't understand I feel like everything have has a solution as long as it's on the internet >> so the dark web crazy thing the dark web right now right now if you go on the internet you as a living person you will not find where the dark web M >> like the way it's accessed is not the normal Google you open.

[00:55:52]>> Yeah.

[00:55:52]>> It's not there. You not find it there.

[00:55:54]>> So there's a dark web for that. And also there's a a syndicate. For instance, let's you know how right now if you tell people in Ara, if you tell people that there are people in Ara who are taking cocaine, they will be shocked. Where where is cocaine coming from?

[00:56:12]>> Mhm.

[00:56:14]You don't know where it's coming from because it's not your thing.

[00:56:17]>> But once >> when it's your thing, there's a whole syndicate people that can help you find it.

[00:56:24]>> So whatever you are looking for in the crime world.

[00:56:28]>> Mhm.

[00:56:29]>> You have people who will connect you to it >> actually. But that's so bad.

[00:56:33]>> So that's there's that like the man when we started I said there's a man they arrested recently. They found tapes and whatever whatever like they have weird stuff going on.

[00:56:43]Yeah. Stuff.

[00:56:44]>> So coming to the child pornography, it was part of the C statement, right? And then it was actually mother and brother doing that together. So with that case, what they basically reported is that there there's a a syndicate in Australia who basically distribute and sell child pornography and just sometimes it's even just nakedness >> to clients in Australia and other parts of the western world and basically they need suppliers.

[00:57:21]So they eventually found some suppliers in Ghana. So these suppliers that he found were one brother and and one son and um and his mother who were taking pictures and videos of >> the children. the children which is this the the actual children of this woman >> and the siblings of this young man and they were selling it to that Australian syndicate who will now send it or sell it to their clients >> actually what is all this so they how far with them >> so it's the same thing they two have been arrested arraign before the court >> so are they using them to track those people >> so I that's how come they they got to know >> so they track them rather and brought them to Ghana. So they are catching everybody that's involved. That's good >> because it's now when when is when is a syndicate they they find a source and then now try and pick up the people who were who who are at the roots of >> then that mean African the people that subscribe to the channel how far with them?

[00:58:31]>> So it it depends. Now I am sure I am sure that they are working on that. I really have a belief they are working on that. M >> but you see they have to find >> the distributor >> Mhm.

[00:58:43]>> and the main source first >> and who knows maybe maybe because it's on the phone his phone all that information is on his phone >> they are they will now be able to dig in and find which numbers are that and then eventually they they'll get these people.

[00:59:01]>> Also you have to understand that some of them might not necessarily be here. Some of them might be people subscribers from abroad. Uh so it it all depends >> but yeah it's a it's a very today I was dipping the whole issue and I felt bro this is wild.

[00:59:21]>> Mhm. And you see, one thing that I I want to say is I need people to understand that it's not weird for anyone or it's not wrong for anyone to place someone on a pedestal and feel that there are certain crimes that these people cannot necessarily commit. Not that they are not capable of committing it.

[00:59:48]>> It's just shocking. It's just shocked that like there are things that people might hear about me and they say ah Mar it's normal reaction >> because people have placed me >> on a certain >> and the way we are reporting about crime now then I'll go here you've gone to do arro there's no way that's how there's no way that >> and so in those instances it's not weird that people will feel like ah >> why did this guy do this >> it does not mean that the person is sympathizing with me or whatever. It's just it's just crazy that this person that they then they see in quotes >> they do this. So yeah, it's it's it's is very wild. It's very what he did is very wild.

[01:00:33]>> And you see last thing from my end what he has allegedly done is about like four crimes together.

[01:00:41]>> Mhm.

[01:00:42]>> Because there's the dragon which is already a crime.

[01:00:47]There's the alleged rape or sexual incident without consent which is al also a crime. Then there's the taking of the photos and videos which is another crime. Then there's the distribution which is another crime.

[01:01:02]>> Usually people are involved in one people are involved in one of these.

[01:01:06]>> Yeah. But this one he seems to be the the >> he doesn't have assistance like he seems to be the only one >> doing everything orchestrating from sourcing the people dragging the people doing this doing that ch >> and that brings me to a point that I always wanted to make you know like I said when it started people were saying ah what does his money got to do with are you saying that poor people cannot but that's not the point now let me break this down for him to able to have had access or to even have these women want to talk to him and I'm not saying all of them there is that influence either by his money by his popularity >> social currency >> there's that social currency right so it's not weird that people will say or ask that ah why are you all of this and still going through this because >> some tro meet know go Enzo and casually have women who probably want to sit around him >> to even for him to even drag them.

[01:02:13]>> Mhm.

[01:02:15]>> And I know you people. So let's rewind.

[01:02:18]I am not talking or saying it's the fault of the women. I'm saying that that social currency helps in getting people.

[01:02:26]It's for instance um you probably when you were in Lagon you probably heard about pastors people and stuff. Mhm.

[01:02:34]>> Now the reason why they can even have people to stay and listen to them is because >> they come off as pastors.

[01:02:41]>> Yes. They come off as pastors. So that is that is was the that was what he was using. That social currency was what he was using >> to get these women involved or interested and then allegedly the spiking will happen. Again, we don't know if the spike happened in the club or the club.

[01:03:00]>> I feel like maybe some some will probably happen in the club.

[01:03:03]So that they'll act like the girl is drunk.

[01:03:07]Yeah. Also, I want to say that guys, women don't always have to be the the the the reason why or the receiving end of this basically because people like this thing has happened to these people. The people are there and you people are saying that some girls will not be able to enter the club again. Is it that hard to enter a club?

[01:03:28]It's not even hard to enter the club saying that oh somebody has lost their bomb. You are now you are trivializing the issue and now you are shaming women and also now it is it is it is you that you me I don't do nice life again but >> you do this table table table table thing so if somebody is going to help you enter >> the club why do you have to shame her because did a person tell him that hey I drag people for a living or something no it's maybe friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends friends and then they entering the club but everything you people start shaming women about and it's unfair >> I think that we we just like fooling around these topics And you see, I've already said this before in previous episode. I just don't like there's this whole anytime a discourse about >> subjects like this come up, >> it's like most of the men are men centered and then most of the women are women centered. No, >> gender war. Yeah, it's becomes a gender war which is very foolish to me. For instance, like there have been previously discussed like a discourses like um like oh why are you going to a man's house like bro are you are you telling me that men are these animals so much that once a woman enters their do you know it it makes no sense it's a very stupid >> thing makes no sense because I don't know if I've said this here before but growing up your mother your mother will tell you that don't touch this.

[01:04:55]>> So why is it that somebody come and visit you, they say don't touch, you still want to touch. It's not it's not the person's fault. It's true that you're an animal.

[01:05:02]>> It's everything at the end of the day.

[01:05:04]Everything comes down to you.

[01:05:06]>> Yes.

[01:05:07]>> Everything. There's one time I was saying I was making an example.

[01:05:10]>> Bad people are bad people. They are bad.

[01:05:12]It's them. They did it. Leave it for them. It's them. Don't Don't try to put other people inside. It's very very frustrating. It's very like it's not nice. I I just don't want to talk about the family.

[01:05:24]>> Yeah.

[01:05:24]>> And and things, but it's just not nice.

[01:05:27]Face the people as >> unless you have a reason to say no because you the Oh god, I've remembered there was this person called Ouadi.

[01:05:37]You tweeted twice about my lowkey involvement in this issue. And honestly, the reason why I I didn't follow up on it is because the last time we spoke about how suing people don't have money is a waste of time. That's why I don't because if we go to court, if we go to court right now, do you have something to because do you >> when black voter was tweeting those tweets, I was in classics >> 2011. I was in classics.

[01:06:03]>> Oh wow.

[01:06:03]>> So what what what could I have probably influenced?

[01:06:07]>> See where I was.

[01:06:09]I was talking to somebody and the person told me that so when they were set in 2002 I said what 2002 >> wait black post were in 2011 >> 2011 >> I was in classics >> I was in my final I was in my THIRD YEAR IN UNI >> UNIVERSITY I I finished in 2012 yeah 2012 I was not even universityf Yeah.

[01:06:39]>> You see, >> but yeah.

[01:06:46]>> Yeah. But like it's like don't you can't be involving people like it's so ridiculous.

[01:06:51]>> I I I think that people just like fooling >> Yeah. about these and you see and that's why this is totally unrelated and that's why I like what Stone is doing with his own >> with regards to the web kid guy webkit guy.

[01:07:08]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[01:07:09]>> There has to be a precedent for people to stop just saying anything. And I know people say it's not a criminal blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

[01:07:17]>> It's not it's not criminal. This is it's just defamation. And you see again people don't really understand the laws you know with this particular case it can get great to cyber bullying >> and cyber bullying is a crime it's not information.

[01:07:31]>> Yes. Yes. Cuz now you're cyber bullying.

[01:07:33]>> I saw tweets about 30 screenshots and I could count about 30 tweets directed solely at Dr. Louisa.

[01:07:44]>> Dr. Louisa is Dr. Louisa is this. Dr. I really slept with this and it's not this >> in that moment. What? That is not defamation. That is proper cyber bullying. This is harassment.

[01:07:58]>> Yes.

[01:08:00]>> It's not defamation again. So people should make sense of these things. Don't follow don't stand artist to be fooling with other people. I say this all the time.

[01:08:10]Princess look these people they don't know you like that. And for instance like someone will say there was some time they arguing you know the cars how many how many cars get you know how many cars get and I'm thinking >> how do you know >> like how many >> then come and say that stone boy in car hey >> and so look keep the banter about the music >> lightly about the music >> music I it should be about music insulting people like cannot see myself me as I'm here insulting someone because hey why you staying at stone boy stone boy hey then you go get DM someone hey you s no nice hey I go find you like >> as a big fan like me everybody's aware of that then some like I'll go and say hey I feel like a virus for me >> and you see these people they don't care about you like that they need your fandom But they don't care about you like that.

[01:09:15]>> No.

[01:09:15]>> As this guy inrison song for him >> releas very very talented. He give you >> the talent here up there. But you see as you are there and you see we've talked about crime and prison and remand and all of that over here.

[01:09:43]>> I don't think that people understand >> the gravity >> and know how crazy it is >> to be in jail.

[01:09:52]>> Now this guy is supposed to come is going his court date is 25th.

[01:09:57]>> Who?

[01:09:57]>> The web kid guy. You be you that means he would have been in jail for about 3 weeks.

[01:10:03]>> Mhm. in cells for about 3 weeks in a small space that sometimes one day I think that's another some an episode we should do >> we can e either do a call in session >> where people call in to tell us I think we should do that >> to because when I posted about this people were saying oh arrest me for here blah blah blah I want people to do that >> and then we'll do an episode on that just so we know because >> I want people to know and hear people's stories about these things so that they know that it's not a place to be. A lot of people the reason why a lot of our rapid people they go there and they fall sick. It's not like they some of of course some of them they fake it but a lot of time some of them they actually feel very sick. You go into an environment where the bacteria you for real because it's not kept properly.

[01:11:02]Look, if you go to most cells, >> and I'm not talking about prison, I'm talking about police cells in Ghana.

[01:11:08]>> If you go >> small space, >> the the the toilet day is there >> and you are sleeping close to the toilet. That's where you people are. You everyone and whatever does their thing in the water closet that you are is in the same space as you.

[01:11:26]>> Mhm.

[01:11:26]>> Because we unlike western countries, they have holding selves.

[01:11:32]for when you are in trial >> or when your case is in court. It's not necessarily and that's what they call jail.

[01:11:39]>> So they keep you in jail. It's like a holding cells whilst you're going to trial. Ghana we not get.

[01:11:45]>> Mhm. So if you're in remand if you are not lucky and you don't end up at in fact for for people I've some people I've spoken to they say that it's even better if you are held at the main prisons than in police cells >> cuz it's ah bulldog someone like bulldog you know bulldog is running a campaign is running like um it has like this sort of um is it like an NGO or an organization that they are trying to help >> just brighten or you know shape up some of these cells because he himself he says hey he's not trying to go back to prison again because what he saw over there so someone like bulldog who at least to us we see him as staff and he says he doesn't want to go to remand or even go to sales you where you check like me you you won't go there and you see people another thing that people don't When you go to the when you go to sales, there is a there's a sale leader. It's everywhere.

[01:12:52]>> They'll take money.

[01:12:53]>> They will take money.

[01:12:55]>> You cannot go and do long bud. He paid you. You cannot escape it. The demonstration that was held during Naku's time, the occupy house, the people who arrested, >> they paid self fees to sell.

[01:13:10]>> They did.

[01:13:11]>> Ah.

[01:13:12]>> Wow. I didn't know that. I was at one of the sales where they held them. I know that we we had to give food.

[01:13:16]>> So that the food is payment.

[01:13:17]>> They were No, they actually paid money.

[01:13:21]>> Oh, actually it was like 100 or 200 cities or so. Some of them some of them were 100 each each. 100 cities each to the cell leader.

[01:13:29]>> Wow.

[01:13:30]>> The police they are there. They know that there's a cell leader there who is taking money. They're not doing any. So I beg you, you one day again we'll run an episode just solely on this. But >> yeah. Um this is unfortunately what has been happen with regards to and I I'm using this opportunity to also tell you guys you are not entitled to a woman's body.

[01:13:53]You are not entitled to anyone's body.

[01:13:56]You are not entitled to in quotes sleep with anyone because they you did something for them.

[01:14:04]>> Mhm.

[01:14:06]Be clear on what in fact your communications between whoever you want to have sex with should be very very clear that you both want to do it else you are committing a crime but beyond the crime self bro as a sane man body well built why are you and again people have said that this is a power play and thing I'm just solely dwelling on the the sexual bit of it. Why are you forcing yourself on someone who is not enjoying what you are doing to them >> makes no sense. Power play one is so stupid to me like how do you even feel like you are doing this and someone the person is shouting stressing >> and you're stressing >> ado where where your mind day bro >> where your mind day so this >> and all those people who are running telegram accounts who are posting >> pornography blah blah blah bro you are too grown for this you are you are in your mid20ies getting to 30 you are so excited anytime you hear about sex tape where the link day where the link day >> you know get you know get some >> so yeah we will see what comes up eventually with regards to the >> and we'll update you guys when there's like more details to the case >> I for a lot of viral cases I go to court >> this one I might I will go I will just find a date and go >> I have to follow you >> but have you ever been to court >> no >> before >> no >> one day you should >> yeah I've never been to court >> one day you should casually one day you can link up I will take you there at place in the court. It can be a civil case and just observe things. It would it would change your mind diff like you would come out >> and not want to be in that place. I swear. Have you seen lawyers even say that they fear certain courts?

[01:16:06]>> Lawyers. Oh yeah. When you talk to a fear, ask her. There are certain cause that as a even as a lawyer you enter and you fear because the judges some way.

[01:16:17]So you as a common person oh you go suffer >> anyway.

[01:16:21]>> Anyway as we are coming to go hey >> if you are going to have consensual sex h get the case condom h they use the lubricant to do what?

[01:16:32]>> To make it slide smooth easy. Oh. Oh, trust you. You know inside. You know inside.

[01:16:41]>> Make it easy like consensual.

[01:16:42]>> So yeah, we have our sponsors are here telling you again that use their condoms, use your lubes when you're having conexual sex is good for you.

[01:16:52]It's going to make twins very sweet.

[01:16:54]There the is nicely scented so you won't have a problem.

[01:16:58]>> It's very sweet.

[01:17:00]>> How do you know?

[01:17:01]>> Oh, I know.

[01:17:01]>> Okay.

[01:17:02]>> I know. I know things. Just because I read. So yeah, we'll we'll come again to you next week. Yes.

[01:17:09]>> Another episode of Crimea Crime. But again, >> um if you have any >> any topic, any story that you want us to talk about, you can let us know. Please don't make it big. Don't say >> do the story about Quim Marik.

[01:17:25]>> Who is Quim Marik?

[01:17:27]>> Who what did they do? If you think it's not something you can put in the comments, you can always reach out to my personal account >> on on Twitter, on Tik Tok, Instagram at taylor marik.com. So at Taylor Marik >> or you can reach you can reach Princess Berlin >> Princess Berlin on social media accounts or you can >> yeah just reach out and let's let's let's get it done for you. But we'll come again and moving on we are going to be having very interactive sessions like recently we had lawyer over here lawyer Antonet over here >> like I said we are going to have this that calling session >> or if you have any other ones just let us know in the comment section and then >> now in fact let me put it right now for people if you if you have been arrested before spent a day or more at any police cells >> please comment on this if you see this you can also Also send me a message on Instagram or Twitter, Tik Tok at Taylor Marik and then we'll arrange a call section or something, a live call session. We talk to you so that >> we can gather experiences for people who are watching us to understand why it's not worth an experience.

[01:18:39]>> Yes.

[01:18:40]>> So How to do the arite.