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‘Paris is BURNING’: Over 750 arrested with hooliganism ‘gone wild’ and 'third-world behaviours'Added:
Paris is burning.
>> One confirmed death and over 780 people have been arrested with many in hospital in serious condition. Some of them that's after PSG won the Champions League final. God forbid they lost. And of course, the usual suspects decided to burn the city to the ground. There's been looting and destroying shops and restaurants.
Cars have been burnt into the ground.
women attacked just driving their vehicles.
It's disgraceful, isn't it? You wouldn't see this on Netflix's Emily in Paris, would you? destroying local businesses, people's livelihoods, animals, wreckaging a beautiful city. And just for contrast, because we do need a bit of contrast here to show how bad and good can be done, here's how the Polish people have celebrated in Krakow when their team won last week.
No rioting, no looting, civilized people enjoying the sport. But let's be honest about what's going on in France. We know French people love a riot and a revolution, don't we? It goes back in their history. But what we saw last night was simply simply barbarism, wasn't it? Their team didn't even lose.
They won. Not that that would be an excuse either way, of course. This is the result of football hooliganism gone wild. And let's be honest, importing of third world people leading to third world behaviors. Plain and simple. Both of those things are to blame. Let's not pretend there isn't truth in both of those things. And of course, the riots have continued on today.
Yeah. Well, Ernest Hemingway once said this, "There are only two places in the world we can live happy. At home and in Paris." And I truly doubt he'd be saying that today, would he? Should we get the thoughts of my panel? former Met Police Detective Peter Bleley, former Conservative MP Anna Fur, and academic and author Dr. Lisa McKenzie. Thanks all for coming uh tonight. Peter, I'll start with you. It it beggars belief, doesn't it? I I I kind of saw this and I was lost for words.
>> Right. Let's look at the timelines and let's look at the geography if we may because we need to make bit of a distinction between football related thugery and perhaps wider disaection or looting or rioting whatever you want to call it. When Arsenal went one up last night there was some disturbances in Paris. Okay. So disaffected football fans idiotically showing their unhappiness at going a goal down. Um there was other ele elements of disruption during the game but essentially most of it happened afterwards. And if you look at the geography, some of the Parisian suburbs where this happened, and then look at the the demographics that live within those suburbs, you will find that they are heavily populated by migrant communities who some chose to take this opportunity to go looting and rioting and smashing up their own city, which is of course stupidity on a completely different level. Yeah, it it beggars it beggars belief, especially if you are a migrant or even a first generation migrant where you've lived in that your parents have just moved to that country to show that lack of respect for it. It it it it is just something that I just cannot fathom if it ever happened in London. I just can't imagine it. Lisa, um I know you can be you're a bit of an anarchist.
>> It did happen. It did happen in London in 2011. It did. France is a very >> but for political reasons, right? But that that's part of the distinction here. So tell me, do you think this is political?
>> Yes. Go on. Yes, I do. I I think the France is a very unhappy place at the moment and I think one of the things about British news is we don't talk much about what's happening in Europe. Um you know the social issues in Europe and France is a very unhappy place. It's extremely divided. Uh it's extremely unequal as well. And there are parts of Paris which are the outskirts the Banloo um which people they are migrant communities mostly and they are quite poor as well. So there is a economic and I suppose cultural distinction and an unhappiness in France at the moment. I'm not excusing any of that because that's not what I'm doing. But what I am saying is um you know too many people in this country look at look at Europe and they think it's some sort of bastion of you know kindness and everyone getting on actually it's not. France is very very unhappy with itself. Uh probably in the similar ways that we're very unhappy with ourselves as well. So I think what was h we've seen in Paris I think it is political.
>> What do you think?
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>> Gonna >> I think that there's political or not, I think there's absolutely no excuse for this thugery. And I don't excuse the football hooligans either. How a winning a trophy can be a license for looting businesses, torching cars, and attacking police stations is unbelievable. And 22,000 uh French uh police could not control this. So, I mean, yeah, they've got a really big problem. But one thing I would say, and um you I came up on the train today and lots and lots of Arsenal fans, lots of families didn't feel in the least bit threatened. My daughter was um was out and about yesterday in in North London and she she was talking about all the Arsenal fans and the parade. She didn't feel in in the least bit threat. Now we so often go on about the good old days. Now the good old days of football hooliganism in this country were not good at all. But it looks to me as if some we are now doing much better on that score. Certainly a lot better than the French.
>> Yeah. It's fascinating, isn't it? when you see how we've responded, I mean, even when Arsenal lost, I is it because that the pe the people who supported Arsenal just have respect for the game, respect for their club, respect for themselves, cuz this reflects on those fans. It reflects on that football club?
>> I I don't know for sure, but I'd like to think that we've turned football into more of a family affair. I mean, I go and support Southoun United, and that is a completely family affair. And the more you do that, the more the more you get everybody involved, the more it's a community thing, the more chance you've got of not having the thugery. Yeah. The violence.
>> To go to the other side of this, which I think is migrants driven violence. And I think we we should call it what it is. I think the footage it's like Orwell's book. You know, say what you see. You know, I don't don't let people dis disguise what your eyes and ears show you, Peter. And this is where I'm coming from. It the the migrant part of this.
France has had a massive influx of people for who are not culturally French, not culturally European and many illegal migrants in the country. On top of that as well, far worse than it is here in Britain. We should we should say that with some confidence. Has do you think that's contributed to this current situation? We've got the social unrest.
>> So is Britain a massive influx of people who are not culturally or values aligned to us.
>> Why is it that there's no riots here and there's riots over there?
>> This is a crystal ball. Look into it.
This will be Britain before we know where we are. Guaranteed >> this.
>> It might not be a football match that sparks it. It'll be something else. But this kind of level of looting and violence and destruction, want and damage and all of that, it's coming our way, unfortunately. Do you feel the same way, Lisa?
>> What I know about France and Paris is they don't disperse uh the migrants in the in the the refugees in the way that we do. So if you go into central Paris, there are there are thousands of uh refugees around train stations sleeping rough. Um whereas in the UK, we don't see that.
>> Yeah, cuz we've dispersed them to Bournemouth and look what's happened there and many other places around the country.
>> We've dispersed them to Middlesborough and Mansfield.
>> So they're more concentrated argument than Paris and around the >> If you get off the um the Europe, when you go when you go to Paris, if you get off, >> I won't be going back to Paris. I hadn't gone there for 15 years. I got I got pickpocketed outside the Lou there and that was it for me. I I that was actually funnily enough that was one of the turning points for me in my political journey. Um I said god that's that doesn't feel right getting that's like getting mugged outside Buckingham Palace and I haven't actually been back to Paris France since that moment. I will obviously go to some beautiful parts of France but I won't be going back to to Paris again. Just just an update here. 16 people have been arrested at the Arsenal parade today. Of course, a crime scene has been set up um as part of it. Nothing in comparison to >> 780. Yes.
>> And I that obviously was a small amount of if you see the amount of people running down the streets and all the different clips of it. It was just a small part. Clearly, they couldn't have arrested everybody cuz there were thousands of people rioting last night from from from what I can >> they've had major problems in in Paris.
They have had major problems in >> Is this heading our way? I would well I I'm not going to be so pessimistic because I do think France has a particular problem. I was I was actually lucky enough to live in France for four years, live in Paris. This is now going back 20 years and it was really shocking how every every year there was at least one riot and you'd be walking the kids to school and you'd see a burntout car in a in a really nice part of Paris. The French have a particular problem with this. That's why the Jearmms are fully armed. Um, and what amazes me is that they're not able to get a handle on this.
>> Why Why do you think it is they're not able to get a handle on it, Peter? Is it just too much of a big a problem now? Is that what it is?
>> Well, we know from our own history that if you concentrate large people from a community that is not native to this nation and you create conditions where there is social and economic deprivation, there will be a backlash.
Brixton 1981. I had the huge misfortune to be there on the Friday of that dreadful weekend. Um, so we we we've got a template for it. Um, I suspect I'm I'm utterly confident that with the sizable populations that we've got now living in other places around the UK, it's only a matter of time, football might not be the catalyst that sparks it in this country, but it's coming our way unfortunately.
>> How how with this in mind, Lisa, let's just take the hypothetical and assume it's happening. What what does what do governments need to do? What what is the act? Is it like a lot of the right-wing political parties, the Tories, um uh reform, restore? Pretty much everyone on the rights calling for deportations.
>> Yeah. Um >> can we do that?
>> Can we do that? I'm going to be honest.
I don't think anyone could do that now.
I don't think it's too late.
>> Yeah. I think reform, you know, they're saying that they want to deport 600,000 people. There is not a chance that's going to happen. That >> Why do you think that? because I think our political system as it is will tie that up. If you remember when the tries tried to do Rwanda um you know the the parliament would not allow that to happen and I think the same will happen with >> that was the Labor government who came in and immediately scrapped that plan.
>> I'm not I'm not a supporter of Labor.
Everyone knows I'm not a supporter of Labor.
>> I'm saying that Kan wasted all their money.
>> They will do the same. They will do the same with reform when I mean they're doing the same to Shabban. When you mean the civil service when I think the civil service I think the civil service I think the politicians >> the lawyers.
>> Yeah. The lawyers. Yeah. Peter knows we this is this is we won't we won't I'm very I feel like Peter. I feel that this is quite dystopian. I think nothing good's going to come out of any of this.
>> Uh Anna let's assume for let's just take a hypothetical. Let's say Chem Baitnock wins the next general election. She's prime minister. Do you have faith that that there's political will within the civil service for a mass deportations plan? I call it mass deportations.
Whatever the you know BNO's solution to the answer is I think she calls it mass deportations too. Do you have faith that the civil service would be able to deliver that?
>> I've got no faith that they would want to deliver it. But I do actually have faith that if Kemmy Badnaugh was prime minister, they would have to deliver it because I think she's actually a very strong woman. Okay. And and I think that you know the Conservatives they made mistakes in office you know we all know that and I think if they get the chance they will not make those mistakes because they've gone around that boy and now we know exactly what we've got to do. But that Rwanda plan should have been executed.
>> Oh I think they're figuring that out now. I just want to bring you the obvious the full story on what's happened after this Arsenal parade today just so you've got the information at home. 16 people have been arrested around the Arsenal parade on Sunday today and a crime scene has been set up after a stabbing on Horny Road, the Met police have said. So there is a crime scene, active crime scene there. We'll bring you the latest on that as and when we hear it. Um yeah, a worrying time I think for people across Europe, but very worrying and it's and in some in some cases when I I showed that picture of Poland to the audience, what the polls were doing last week in Kkow because I think it says something. It says something about the homogeneous culture they have about the fact they're all able to come together, celebrate. They don't have a stabbing. There was nothing. None of that happened. I did check the the crime reports. They had a nice evening. They're going to get they had to have some arrest from drunk and disorderly behavior. But actually, you saw them all coming together and enjoying their time. And we all live next door to each other. We're not millions of miles away. We are close proximity here in Europe. And um I I I worry when I hear what you're saying, Peter, and I hear what you're saying, Lisa. It does concern me. Go on. You want to say >> Poland's got a monoculture, generally speaking. And I went to uh Kov last year. Oh, what a wonderful place to go.
Gorgeous place. And we went two couples.
So at one point me and my mate went off for a beer and the wives walked home and they'd never felt safer in their lives.
>> Totally agree with you. I thought it was absolutely wonderful. a shiny example for the rest of
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