After BTS + an NBA Playoff Game, My Husband Had a Fandom Epiphany

Añadido: 2026-05-12

[00:00:00]Happy Wednesday, everybody. Um yeah, we went to the Oklahoma City Thunder game last night, playoff game against the Lakers, which was fantastic. And I took a lot of footage because I had an idea um that I really wanted to point out something that I thought was interesting. Um and make the correlation between seeing BTS or even a basketball game, people that you've watched on TV for a long time um on TV versus in person.

[00:00:28]And how the more that you see celebrities, players, idols in person and you get to see them kind of work the stage or work the court or whatever, um you feel like you know them better and they become more human to you. But anyway, but actually what ended up happening was I think much more interesting. And that is that Shawn sort of had an epiphany and um really about the unfairness and the double standard of fandoms between like sports fans and the way men are treated being sports fans and women and how women are treated in their fandoms. And so we sat down to talk about it before he went to work today.

[00:01:09]And I think he has some words of wisdom.

[00:01:11]So check this out and uh tell me what you think. And yeah, this whole back-to-back-to-back concert playoff thing woo, I don't know if we're made for this. So we may have to just cut some of the games cuz I'm still going to all the concerts.

[00:01:24]Anyway, give this a watch. What do you think? Lord.

[00:01:30]Okay.

[00:01:31]Everybody's making the trip. Ev- everybody's like bringing their stuff in here to lay down.

[00:01:36]We're not here for long, boys. Went to the Thunder game last night. Yeah.

[00:01:40]Exactly two days after it was like two two days between the BTS concert and the Thunder game.

[00:02:01]>> [cheering] >> And during the game, you sort of leaned over and you were making an observation.

[00:02:13]Even Aggie's coming in here. Hi Aggie.

[00:02:15]Well, we're going back to Okay.

[00:02:17]So, kind of tell me what you were think what you were saying and I was kind of sad I couldn't get in the moment, but it was There was a lot of screaming going on, so.

[00:02:25]Yeah, I mean, you know, unfortunately for me, I'm sort of a I think about things a lot.

[00:02:31]>> [laughter] >> Yeah. I'm like a deep thinker and processor, so like um which has It's a blessing and a curse, frankly, but usually a curse. It just It was just kind of the whole concept of like, you know, having gone to the concert and um you know, the BTS concert in El Paso and you know, I mean, it it's So, keep in mind like I'm I'm no expert by by any stretch. Like, literally, that's the first concert I've been to in, you know, 40 years. Right.

[00:02:59]But, just kind of my observations of everything, like A, there's very few men at the BTS concert. Right.

[00:03:05]>> Um mostly women, I'd say. I don't know.

[00:03:09]Probably at least 90 90 10, something like that. 95 5. You know, it seems like there's this double standard, essentially. Society um says that, you know, men can have, you know, their sports and and all their their sort of things and they can have their man cave and they can bring all their buddies over and they can all be wearing freaking face paint and, you know, have their their uniforms on, their jerseys on, and be screaming and jumping around like morons and all that kind of stuff. And that's completely acceptable. Completely normal. Yeah, it's just like completely normal behavior. Like, nobody even second >> the Super Bowl is the biggest like advertisement day of the year. I mean, it's like the biggest day. Right. And so, nobody second-guesses that behavior.

[00:03:53]But I just noticed and even I felt it just as a normal dude, like I felt an uneasiness at the concert like expressing myself. Mhm. You know, because I I felt like it would I would be judged.

[00:04:07]>> Mhm.

[00:04:08]>> You know, I'm like, who's this weird dude? But I just noticed it last night at the game how like all these morons were like going crazy and saying all the crazy stuff and wearing all the crazy things.

[00:04:18]And it just sort of dawned on me that it really is a double standard. It's just one of those things that society dictates, which is completely and totally unfair.

[00:04:26]>> Mhm. Like you know, for the for the spouses and stuff like that out there that are trying to make some type of argument that this is different or not the same.

[00:04:36]>> Not normal.

[00:04:37]>> Not normal or not not what they do. It's it's different, you know, or whatever.

[00:04:41]There's really no way to justify that, I don't think. Right.

[00:04:46]Having experienced them back-to-back, especially, you kind of get that insight. Well, yeah, I mean I was there >> no difference.

[00:04:54]>> Yeah, I mean I was there back-to-back within two days. I was at a, you know, Thunder playoff game and then a BTS concert and like I don't think I would have had that epiphany really if they weren't so close together, you know, but being in this, you know, in the stadium or or the arena and just kind of watching the game and just seeing all the shenanigans that go on and you know, all people and all their weirdness and all that kind of stuff, which is all great. Don't get >> Right. We love it.

[00:05:20]>> Yeah, I'm not like like bashing cuz I I love weirdness. I mean, it's it's what makes things fun and exciting. Um That's why I think I like the BTS concert so much for me cuz it was like a massive like people-watching extravaganza for me. I'm very I'm very much an observer.

[00:05:38]I'm a watcher.

[00:05:40]So um watching people is one of my favorite things to do and that was just like an eyeful.

[00:05:46]I'll probably become like a hated like a villain nemesis to all the husbands out there probably through this process, but um but if you really take a look at it and you're honest, like there's no difference between those two things.

[00:06:00]I've come to El Paso 5 years ago to see just a small museum in the desert and it's it feels really great, you know, all those [ __ ] COVID errors and >> [cheering] >> to see you here at the edge of America, you know, between one at the borders, you know, with Mexico.

[00:06:21]>> [cheering] >> Thank you.

[00:06:25]Um but you guys were the best the hottest crowd. You guys were the [ __ ] Hans >> [screaming] >> Zimmer, Zimmer from Germany, Hans Zimmer.

[00:06:45]So, I would say knowing that give your wife a break, cut her some slack, and realize that um society is dictating what is and isn't acceptable, Mhm. but we as humans have to be better than that. Like we have to rise above that and actually use our brains Right. and and our experiences and stuff to see that just cuz society is pushing a particular agenda or whatever doesn't necessarily mean that it's fair or true. Well, it's really interesting from my point of view to watch you discover this because part of my whole journey through this whole BTS thing started because people judged me liking BTS because of my age, right?

[00:07:33]>> Right. And that kind of set me off and and you know, I was and you know how I get when people tell me I shouldn't do something.

[00:07:39]Um that doesn't go well for them, but you know, and then you realize there's a lot of other people and they realize they weren't alone that we had this huge group of people that are my age and up that love BTS. And so, it kind of started from there already now my desire to kind of take a stand against and prove that you can love them at any age or whatever. And so, to see you now on the other side making almost that same kind of stance, but from the more gender, you know, um based side is really kind of interesting because we were just saying a minute ago like my BTS room, for example, like people think, "Oh my god, you have all this stuff." And oh, you know, look at all But like we were saying like there's guys have man caves. They have, you know, their jerseys hanging on the walls. They have multiple televisions going at once. They have all these streaming services they can watch the NBA regularly, the NFL games regularly.

[00:08:37]They have they get their Sports Illustrated delivered to their You know what I mean? Like they have stuff, too.

[00:08:43]That they spend their money on, right?

[00:08:45]Or they go golfing and they have to have golf memberships and they have to have clubs and they have to have lessons and they have You know what I mean? Like that's all considered normal. So, do you think it's just this a sexist thing?

[00:08:57]>> [clears throat] >> An unintentional I'm not meaning like it's me it's like people are >> I don't know that it's so much I mean, it's probably indirectly sexist, but I don't I don't know that men I don't know if like like spouses and stuff are are I don't think they see it that way.

[00:09:11]Right. I think they're going to see it as this is normal and this is abnormal.

[00:09:16]Right. You know, and that's how I saw it, too. It's like, well, not that I have like huge like hobbies or whatever that, you know, take me all over the place or anything like that, but it was just like I always felt like just because society had taught me that, you know, this is acceptable behavior, which is a man painting his face and jumping around and having a keg party with all his buddies, you know, for some Or standing out in the freezing cold at a game paint with no shirt on.

[00:09:45]>> Yeah, and you and you weigh 400 lb and everybody's like, "Ha ha ha, look at Yeah, look how I can look at them.

[00:09:49][laughter] Isn't that great?

[00:09:51]>> Everybody loves it.

[00:09:52]>> Yeah.

[00:09:54]Yeah. So, it's just I don't know, like that was a great example because like we have this guy at Thunder games, his name is Thundar, but he's a big old boy, you know, and like he he has this crazy costume on and he's shirtless and he paints his stomach up and he's always like rubbing his belly and doing all these crazy things and people love that guy, you know?

[00:10:14]>> We love that guy.

[00:10:15]>> We Yeah, I mean, we >> [laughter] >> He's a fixture, but that's sort of the That's the flip. That's the mind F, you know, the flip it around because people think that's amazing and and completely acceptable, but if some guy was doing that at a concert, they'd probably come after him with pitchforks, right? You know, and torches, so I don't know. It It's totally a double standard. The sooner we figure out that society can't or shouldn't dictate our behavior, the better off the world's going to be.

[00:10:45]That's all I got.