You Left the Mold. Your Body Never Did. Here Is Why the Loop Keeps Going.

Added: 2026-05-17

[00:00:00]Interesting. Okay. So, then let's shift gears a little bit. Um, stress and trauma, like how much how much does that end up impacting your immune system? Because you talked about PTSD. Um, is that really that bad? I like I know it is and I've talked to so many people about this but like can that impact your immune system so that you start having inflammatory reactions to things from stress >> and why if if so >> so one of the talks that I've done was we named it the neurotoxic loop and I've hung around and talked to uh AIs about this because I was just curious what the research was where I just was chatting with AI I'm like bring up research prove me wrong And out of all the research I did and looked at all these studies, we're used to the concept that mold in the body is toxic and neurotoxic. And when it builds up, it generates a liver and neurotoxic, brain toxic, nephrotoxic, toxic everywhere, which then causes the body to release a an immune response to try and clean it up.

[00:01:10]During that period of time, you release a hormone response to give you enough energy called cortisol and and adrenal hormones >> to get your body to rev up to protect you, which is the normal response.

[00:01:23]Eventually, if it becomes longterm, you can get adrenal hormone or cortisol toxic, which is another version of toxin.

[00:01:32]>> Oh, what what is this? Cortisol toxic.

[00:01:36]>> You can get toxic to your own hormones because they they accumulate. You've heard of estrogen dominance, >> toxic estrogen, >> right? So, adrenal hormones can do the same thing. So, it's driving you so hard and and it's saturating your brain with hormones that are eventually becoming toxic because they are sitting in there.

[00:01:55]Now, so this is the toxic response side.

[00:02:00]Well, now you're sitting in a toxin, whether it be the mold or the adrenal toxicity, the cortisol toxicity, that tells your body that it's unsafe.

[00:02:12]So then it generates a fight orflight response back to that that mitochondrial CDR situation. It generates a response to say we're in danger. We're unsafe. So it triggers more immune response to the stress that you're in.

[00:02:31]So now we're having a a unsafe feeling response.

[00:02:36]That unsafe feeling generates more cortisol and then you're toxic. So you create a another immune response and it becomes a self-perpetuating problem even if you moved out of the mold. So you just generated a immun triggered internal PTSD in your body.

[00:02:57]And I'm not even talking about mental health, emotion, life trauma. So that's the toxin trauma side of it. So that's the toxin loop that can get you on that side. Well, the neurol loop can do the same thing. If you feel unsafe because of a a parent, a spouse, a you live in a war zone, whatever is causing you to feel unsafe, you release a cortisol response. So your body will get you to safety. If that cortisol response goes on too long, then you generate another immune response or or sorry stress response. It leads to an immune response because you get toxic to it because your body wants to clean it out >> and then that cycle starts going, right?

[00:03:38]So, it's self-perpetuating until you feel safe. Well, what did I say earlier?

[00:03:42]We're terrible at rehabilitating out of it. So, I mean, I've met clients that are women that were abused and they still can't be around men in certain types of situations. They still don't feel safe even to this day from whatever happened to them 20 years ago. So, they're still feeling unsafe, which means their cortisol is still elevated.

[00:04:03]you can see on testing and they're still generating this response and they end up mass cell. So you can do this from a neurological side or you can do this from a toxin side. It doesn't really matter. And then a lot of times unfortunately the person with the neurological trigger or the toxin trigger puts themselves in the position to get the other.

[00:04:21]>> Yeah.

[00:04:22]>> Because if you are in a state where you're unsafe and debilitated from mold, often times you're willing to deal with things that maybe you wouldn't have dealt with if you were well. you put yourself in a relationship or a landlord situation or a work situation because you just don't have quite the capacity to protect yourself. Or if you grew up in trauma and you move into a moldy house, you're twice as likely not to be able to tolerate it because you have so much energy over here trying to deal with the trauma on the like under the surface. You're you're spending a lot of energy dealing with that. So you can't tolerate mold as well.

[00:04:58]So the neurotoxic loop is something I talk about a lot because people get stuck in this self-perpetuating problem. They they leave the bad like one of the bad things but the body is just keeping it going because it's stuck. It feels unsafe. So one of the conversations in my practice a lot is are you safe both from an environmental perspective air food water hygiene dental implants into the body and are you safe mental health-wise consciously and subconsciously even when you are actually in a safe place.

[00:05:31]Okay, that makes sense.

[00:05:34]I think part of the issues like my family's been dealing with is there's been so much external stress that's like it's honestly like too much for someone to be stable in. Like even dad being sick now like last summer my newborn got sick and I was like nobody would be okay in this situation. They they'd be freaking out in like 12 different ways.

[00:05:54]So not feeling good is like there's nothing you can do about that. But it's a tricky sticky. It's tricky sticky.

[00:06:00]It's a tricky situation I think for chronically ill people because people who have like autoimmunity, a psych issue, are on a bunch of medications, need taken care of, are stressing out their family, feel guilty, and then it's like the situation is bad, there are triggers for it, and then they're stuck in a situation that's also bad. It's tricky. You have a tricky job. Well, I've listened to your dad talk and and I really respect some of the things he says, which is is so interesting with what you just said there. It's when you are fully functioning with a completely healthy body and brain and and stress situation, as long as you were taught and driven to to, you know, work and and have the work ethic and fight for things. When you have the full capacity to have critical thinking because you're well and you're unstressed and you're living within that, your ability to get stress is a whole lot less because it doesn't ping you to the fight orflight state where when you're in fight or flight, you don't have good short-term memory, you don't have good critical thinking, you're not creative.

[00:07:09]So when you have a lot of room for adaptation, it takes a lot more to take it down because you can just step back from and be like, "Okay, well, if I do this, I'll solve this problem." And and you know, listening to him, just thinking through like the world we live in and what's happening to it and where people are.

[00:07:26]>> If if you're already well, you can handle so much more, which is why well people in many cases can stay there better when they're conscious about it.

[00:07:35]But when you're not and you're going through everything you've gone through and if you have a child that's sick, you immediately jump into the fight or flight worst case scenario, which triggers more cortisol, which then >> deep dives you away from the critical thinking. Not saying you couldn't, >> but it just makes it hard. It definitely makes it hard to think when you're stressed. I think everybody listening knows that if you're really stressed out, >> you can focus on the problem and sometimes you can be hyperfocused on that, but eventually when you get tired, >> your brain's tired. So yeah that is what happens.