Why Evil Beats Good and Nobody Goes to Jail | Julian Dorey

Added: 2026-04-28

[00:00:01]when you're living, we're we're always living through history where it's being created every day. You would like to think that you learn from the past and you spot the same patterns right there when you see them, >> right?

[00:00:15]>> And it's on a whole another level if you are those people where you're in these positions of power and you would like to think you'd be able to spot it in yourself or the people around you. And the fact of the matter is when you look throughout human existence, yeah, the circumstances change, the technology changes, the who's against who changes and all that, but the human nature never changes.

[00:00:35]>> And the human nature says that people are will you will get people in positions of power who go down right >> that spiral. And that's what it is. And I've talked about this before. It's like one of the weird I don't know what's the word I'm looking for. It's one of the weird paradoxes of life, but like when you look throughout human history, this is why I'm an optimist.

[00:00:59]Things get progressively better. Good wins out. It does. Things are objectively we're in a wild moment right now. I'm not saying I'm not saying sometimes we don't take a little step back to take three steps forward, you know, one small leap for mankind or whatever the [ __ ] they said on that set, you know. But either way, like overall it goes up. The quality of life goes up around the world. Yes. We And when we have access to more information, we see more suffering than we ever did. So we think that that's the the total rule rather than, you know, a smaller part of the rule than it was [ __ ] 20 years ago.

[00:01:37]>> Access to [ __ ] now.

[00:01:37]>> And that is what it is. But like the wild thing is that also throughout human history in the short term, in the short term, evil can beat good. It's this weird thing. And and I I I've talked about this with you.

[00:01:54]>> Evil can beat good >> in the short term.

[00:01:56]>> Isn't that what Netanyahu just said?

[00:01:57]>> And that that was what was so funny because the way he put it was like disgraceful and he tried to like invoke Jesus. Like it just [ __ ] scumbag city. But the point I I don't know what his full point was there or what he was getting at like over the long term or whatever, but what I'm saying is I've talked with you on the phone about this for years. It's like if I put a hundred people in a room and 99 of them are good and one of them is evil who's willing to act seritiously through evil. In the short term, the evil could win, >> right? Like think about think about the Dark Knight experiment where the two boats don't blow each other up where good wins because no one hits the bomb.

[00:02:40]>> All you needed was one person in there to hit the bomb. And if I ran a simulation of that same exact moment a hundred times, nine times out of 10, one [ __ ] is going to [ __ ] hit the bomb.

[00:02:50]>> And in the short term, kaboom, everyone blows up. Yeah.

[00:02:53]>> And it's evil.

[00:02:54]>> Correct. However, on the contrary, if I have 99 evil people in a room and one good person in the room, that good person really has no chance. I mean, they [ __ ] killed Jesus, bro. I mean, it's like, you know, you you in the short term, you don't have a chance.

[00:03:09]>> The beautiful thing about life though, and this is why I think this is a happy ending, is that when you look at things as they develop over time, removing yourself from the hundred person in one room making one decision experiment, the good wins out.

[00:03:22]It does. Overall, it doesn't mean that we don't still have genocides happening in the world and things like that that are objectively like the worst thing ever. It doesn't mean we don't have things like [ __ ] I don't know, arms dealing sex traffickers working for multiple governments and selling kids around the world and getting away with it while everyone laughs and creates a [ __ ] war in Iran to distract from the problem. It doesn't mean that that [ __ ] doesn't happen.

[00:03:41]>> I love that you're doing a solo right now, >> but like I'm just saying. I'm just saying Danny Jones, over the long term, humanity finds a way to get better and better. And that's why I try like even as we're covering like there's two stories this year that are [ __ ] insane and they're not positive in any way shape or form unless you're the CEO of Hermes but other than that like literally if you know you know >> or Palm Beach >> but or but I don't know how positive that is but like when I'm looking at this you have Epstein and Iran and they are negative to the core people dying people getting raped things getting covered up economy crashing and people losing their jobs around the world you know chaos chaos, etc. But like we can be at a point where very bad things may come out of this in the short term and sure as [ __ ] they already are, but 10, 20 years from now we can improve from this >> and then we'll have a new problem, but that problem will be a little lesser, >> right? I seriously >> you know what I mean? And I think that's the beautiful thing about life and that's how I try to look at it even when I'm covering these stories and like we De and I have been covering it in the third episode every week with the solo episodes and all that and like you know you still got to you have to know when to be very very serious about parts of it for sure because life is not all one big joke even when you want it to be.

[00:05:02]But like you have to have fun with the chaos as well because that's how we that's how we talk our way through it.

[00:05:08]That's how we deal with it when [ __ ] no one's going to jail over things like Epstein. They just [ __ ] get away with it, right? You deal with it through dark >> divine comedy, >> if you will. And I'd like to think that there will be some lessons learned from this. And I do think I I I I think the average American needs a lot more credit now than you know we would have gotten 5 6 7 8 10 years ago as to like there are more people who are aware that like some [ __ ] is [ __ ] you know, and there's a lot of people who are aware of that because they've taken the time to be aware of that and they maybe don't even really have that time to look into that because they got bills to pay, families to take care of and stuff, but they're still getting somewhat informed. what you were talking about early on either before we started or right when we got on air, >> you know, I don't know when the cameras start rolling, but like >> I think when you take that way too far and it becomes the whole meaning of your life and your whole life is doom and gloom. Everything's [ __ ] Elmo, fire me. Well, that's a problem.

[00:06:05]>> You can't be like that.

[00:06:07]>> Yeah. And things and things are becoming more exposed now. It's harder. It's harder to keep secrets now.

[00:06:12]>> The secrets come out easier. There's way more people out there. There's way more access to information. And secrets don't inherently uh encourage good behavior.

[00:06:22]>> That's right.

[00:06:23]>> Secrets, I think, uh enable bad behavior. So that just goes to your point that if people are It's harder for these the government or whoever Yes. and companies, people like, you know, these billionaires that are running around with impunity can't keep secrets, then they have to sort of [ __ ] they have to act better. They have to be on their best behavior because they're not going to be able to get away with [ __ ] anymore. And that's that does give me optimism about all this [ __ ] >> Yeah.

[00:06:54]>> But >> I do think the other side of it though, like Joe Rogan talks about this a lot, been talking about this for years. You think no one can keep a secret, but it is possible for larger groups than you think to keep secrets. And even today where you're right, you can shine a light on the darkness more than you could in the past. And it's harder to keep a secret. That doesn't mean that there aren't things that, you know, 100 people keep a lid on.

[00:07:19]>> Oh, of course.

[00:07:19]>> You know what I mean? And that's what's wild. And >> I hate him for it, but I also like damn >> respect the uh >> the discipline. I I don't know. But it's like >> you got these things floating around all day. They're [ __ ] recording everything we say. Imagine those guys like >> they float to our friends. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:43]Shabbat shalom.

[00:07:44]>> Shabbat shalom.

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