Lennox Smith: The Corridor Transformation - 28th. April 2026 - we will rise

Added: 2026-05-06

[00:00:00]Respons [music] 10 people in a onebedroom shanty [music] post to sell on the pavement. No vacancy, no employment. Cattle fire cracker from gunshot. Blood when things get hot. Afraid to look out the window [music] with your voices from the ghetto.

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[00:06:15]Crying. [music] >> Ah, yes indeed. Of course, a pleasant good night to all and century, east, west, south, central in Trinidad, our friends in Tobago and wherever you are streaming on the worldwide web. Uh pleasant, good. My apology for of course the tardiness in terms of the actual of course uh ability to um voice to project my voice but that was because I was getting some technical issues both on the camera and of course in the video that you're seeing uh behind me because of course tonight I want to highlight a particular subject. You see, I have always argued that it is lavender that gave the country its national culture. Steelban, Calypso are claiming that to as well as of course Cannibival and of course no one could falter me for that when one looks at the fact that Carnival is marked or is inaugurated with Kambule and Kambule of course is what is reincarnated or is celebrated or is reenacted where on the greens and that of course is in close proximity to Desert Street, Duncan Street, Prince Street and of course on Piculi Street proper. Nobody could do that. And of course whether you want to say P Simon, you want to say uh Rudolfph Charles and of course um that pan man from Lavventail that got that uh highest award, [snorts] the Trinity Cross are talking about um that what I consider to be the most iconic ponchuna uh and he was of course the man behind Highlanders.

[00:08:06]I'll get Bertie Marshall. Bertie Marshall quite apart from the other heroes uh as you as I've said from time to time even Clinton Bernard the former chief justice came from Duncan Street.

[00:08:21]So we have had our fair share of persons with a tremendous talent that has that have made of course an impact on Trinidad and Tobago. But I want to tell you that in that same place there are other unsung heroes.

[00:08:36]There are other initiatives that if they did not exist, let me repeat, if they did not exist, particularly where crime and criminality, gang warfare and borderline issues are concerned.

[00:08:57]If these initiatives and these individuals who are committed of course to the area whether it be Lavventil East West whether it be Bam Celux whether it be East Port of Spain where of course Nelson Street Duncan Street Picked Street are located George Street where I am here right now.

[00:09:26]I want to tell you that the situation would have been worse. Could you imagine the situation on crime and criminality worse?

[00:09:36]But yeah, stretch your imagination to wherever.

[00:09:41]And because of these patriotic, unound heroes, the situation has not escalated further than the already unacceptable level in contemporary times.

[00:10:03]in present times.

[00:10:06]That is the existential situation and they're not going to get credit for that. But we have to pin our own lapels and blow our own trumpets otherwise nobody recognizes you. I remember one day most of you will remember Umbala uh English man wrapped up of course in African skin I would like to call him that even though he is deceased I don't know if he was alive if he would have of course taken on that accolade and maybe um take action to bring defamation action against me but I think I could say it now because he has passed on because he was a controversial figure and a stickler for for principles but of course I consider some of those principle warped. You see, I was at one of his programs somehow and it came to a situation where I having founded and spearheaded the MLIO trade school and treating with of course hundreds of young people of the time that we are concerned with today as we were Then those who are either engaged or have the potential to engage in criminal behavior.

[00:11:38]Yeah.

[00:11:40]And I want to distinguish that one time those category of young people that still exist from those that would find themselves in serval for example or find themselves in some kind of government uh let's say um incomplete incomplete vocational skills training programs such as myap bup the citizen conservation core etc. etc. different group of persons which we recognize and have accepted and as a consequence of which persons who recognize the problems such as I and like-minded people decided to do something about it because we could not allow under good conscience our young people to deteriorate and to find themselves either in a prison at the wrong side of a of a bullet whether it be that of law enforcement or that of a gang member or a gang rival.

[00:12:59]And so it is as a consequence of that back in 1984, back in 1984, we decided to do something about it right in love until self because we believe and we still believe and understand that it is upon the people within the community once they are conscious and once they have the capacity and once they have the the tenacity and the the technical and other even if they have to acquire it from outside and bring it in, but they must lead the charge because they still have the respect. They still have the consideration of those young people who may be so inclined to engage in violence and criminal behavior. But because they know you because they know because they know that you knew you know them from a little toddler and growing up they will have a modiccom of respect and that is what we capitalize or those of us who have decided to remain and to do something about it.

[00:14:20]And so of course as I have said on numerous occasions, MLio was born.

[00:14:29]But coming out of that experience in 2009, the then Manning administration, notice 2009, next year 2010, very significant.

[00:14:47]The Den Manning administration was at its zenith and was in a state of discombobulation or total and absolute flumox because they couldn't put heads or tail as to how to treat with crime and criminality and therefore maning as prime minister decided to glean or to engage the population by coming out of his what I consider to be his castle office of prime minister.

[00:15:17]and interact with the people. And the last leg in 2009 was in Lavventil where I made my presence felt and I made my presentation of a thousandpage document.

[00:15:33]Yeah. Chronicle that chronicled all of the work that we did from 1984.

[00:15:42]What worked? What didn't work? What are some of the projections? What are the evaluations? How did we come about generating the formula or formula more than one formula to do what? To address this multifaceted multi-dimensional problem that our young people were gravitating to. And of course it is multifaceted, multi-dimensional as I said and there are specificity to support that that position that postulation and that is at the level of the family at the level of the neighborhood at the level of the peer interaction. young people interacting with each other. climing in other words and of course at the level of the village at the level of the leadership that is associated with those a social construct that I've mentioned earlier and I referred of course to the family I I referred to the church I referred to the schools.

[00:17:10]I refer to of course the law enforcement.

[00:17:14]I refer to the judiciary and finally of course the prison which is the ultimate. But we will stop at the level of the church and the schools and back down to the family and the neighborhood.

[00:17:32]Because within that grouping, within that matrix, there evolve a number of leaders that would have been doing their part to either exacerbate or curb this situation.

[00:18:00]And so we came up with 11 types of leaders within that framework that I've just mentioned. 11 11 10 and one 11 types of leaders which we are going to go into detail sometime in the future.

[00:18:16]uh but tonight I want to focus of course on the whole question of the community seeing the problem and decided to do something about it and the opportunity presented itself when Manning as prime minister and and Martin Joseph as national security minister in attendance or part of his entourage came to Lavventil And what transpired?

[00:18:50]Well, that documented that you are seeing there turning automatically page by page is a consequence of that visit. It's a consequence of that encounter 2009 I'm talking about. You see I am I am emphasizing there because remember in 2010 the UNCC took over that government that is and came and in camel Prasad Biscessa as prime minister but there was also some other developments around that time as well because just before 2010 the prime minister then Manning had instructed Martin Joseph to meet with me having presented of course a thousandpage document at the success lavventil secondary school where the discussion headed by led by Manning it took place and in my presentation I I didn't have much time so I had to just say here is the document and you deal with it well of B Joseph was instructed to meet with me and as a consequence of that meeting an additional meeting was set up to meet and make my presentation to the National Security Council. Yes, you say I say I was invited to make a presentation as to our position as to addressing crime and criminality and young people going astray and engaging of course in the havoc that we are seeing today.

[00:20:55]And of course that meeting was held at the old fire station just of course on the southern side of the red house and just north or on the same compound over the national library. So inside of that building, I took along with me Archbishop Barbara Greyberg who was there of course for support and I made a PowerPoint presentation on the technical material that they would have had there for that purpose. So I brought along a flash drive with the PowerPoint presentation recorded and then I used their facility on a white board in order to illustrate in order to demonstrate in order to project to the gathering officials of the Ministry of National security that included the minister himself, Martin Joseph, the then acting commissioner of police, the then head of the army and in those days you had representative I think from Scotland Yard, I think from the FBI as well and other international law enforcement ment agencies recognized at the time.

[00:22:36]And the setting was one of a horseshoe shape where I was standing at the open end of the horseshoe making my presentation on the on the white board. We of course my audience including as I said the minister of national security then Martin Joseph were in attendance.

[00:23:06]Yes indeed and I want to say as I've always said I said hines you know I always like to taunt you address the national security council of the PNM before you. I I must put in that in a discussion like this. Must do that.

[00:23:26]But at the end of it all, this document was prepared and you would see at the beginning of it several then ministers.

[00:23:39]There was Hazel Manning, Donna Cox, Nand Hippolit. Yes.

[00:23:48]um Marlene Macdonald and of course the minister himself. Let me go back to the beginning of the document so you'll have an appreciation as to what I'm talking about. So there we go. Let me pause it here. So there were there were the ministers. The only non-ministers you would see in the in the in the picture as well is me there uh next to of course Martin Joseph who is at my left I don't know if your your left will be or it might be your right but my left here in studio but you'll see the others Nid Hippolit to the bottom there and then of course Marlene Macdonald the wife of the then prime minister Hazel Manning and of course Donna Cox or who was the representative for Lavantil East Move. We will continue in a while.

[00:24:45]I want to show you that we saw THE PROBLEM AND DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING about it and to solve it on a permanent or should I say a sustained basis. Let's go to the line. Good night or welcome to the corridor.

[00:25:00]Uh, let me just let me just make sure that everything is in. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Don't don't um don't don't move at all. Let me just make sure that everything is in place. Uh, don't move at all. Uh, we'll we'll we'll get that rectified momentarily. All right. Are you hearing me now?

[00:25:18]>> All right. Good.

[00:25:19]>> Yes. Go ahead, man.

[00:25:20]>> Yes.

[00:25:32]Yeah.

[00:25:38]>> All right.

[00:25:53]>> Yes. Yes. Yeah. I I I have to talk about that tomorrow on the ground report something try today. So we thinking alike man you know like likeminded people I suppose gravitate and think similarly but go ahead my friend. Yes.

[00:26:31]As you see everything like But yeah. Well, well, I mean, you say you say it loud and clear. Birds of feather flock together. [laughter] >> Like, go ahead. Yes.

[00:26:59]>> Yes.

[00:27:15]>> Likewise.

[00:27:22]Yes.

[00:27:39]>> Yeah, there there's a pattern there's a pattern in in in law enforcement. It is called modus operandi. So the method of operation. So you're seeing you're seeing that pattern uh coming down the road and they can't change and they are still that way.

[00:28:06]Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Condition the the the nation. Condition the nation to accept that level of what I consider to be miscreant behavior for good government and governance. I mean uh in Shakespeare couldn't say better in in shillock. But go ahead.

[00:28:38]election.

[00:28:53]No, no. I good here. You hear me?

[00:28:56]You hear me? I hear you.

[00:29:00]Are you hearing me talk?

[00:29:05]Oh, boy. I don't know what happened.

[00:29:08]All right. Uh, well, we we have lost connection obviously. Let me see if we can re reboot. Are you now? We all right now.

[00:29:22]>> Okay. Right. Good. Good. All right.

[00:29:26]talking.

[00:29:30]>> Yes.

[00:29:40]>> Yes.

[00:29:56]is not remove.

[00:30:18]Now listen to this.

[00:30:21]opposition.

[00:30:31]>> Yes. Email gate.

[00:30:33]>> Yes. Uh my my apology to those who were not hearing but I had lowered the volume on the on the on the system. So that is why I I think it has been rectified now.

[00:30:44]So my apology. Go ahead. Go ahead. Uh Data.

[00:30:48]>> Right. So, so I'm saying every time they in opposition they they have nefarious behavior on towards behavior the coup in 1990 email gate look where your good friend and colleague small pin has gone he has gone to Venezuela and that alliance with Venezuela with what Miam doing with what the Grenadian doing has upset an Ali and his ministers You are seeing the post of the the the ministers in Guyana. Now they saying Kico has betrayed them and our beloved prime minister picked up on that earlier.

[00:31:33]You remember the Kalai Accord in St. Vincent where where Car went and >> Yeah. At at at a airport. Yes.

[00:31:43]>> Right. They are saying now that it was a setup and you seen it and the most heinous action by um Deli and and Mia she asking Mia to invest in the oil and gas industry why and why Mia doesn't want to invest in Trinidad oil and gas industry is that jealousy if cariccom think about it that would have cement cariccom relation ationship because cariccom together with KCR and the partner sing Petrin and people must never forget that that is why we have in this product and that large depth around our throat because Malcolm Jones I was so vexed when I see that Delyances toward me did not sense to ask I come to help him um make Petri profitable. So you seen the heinous act that Casey did with Envy. He didn't want it to go back to um as they say appeal the arbitration.

[00:32:56]So it's something sinister with this PNM and we have to do everything to keep them out. Now go on have a nice >> Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Well, I I want to say categorically because I think we had ventilated that on the ground report this morning and I made it very very clear. What we are not seeing is what is of significance to me. And I I postulate I I beseech I I prefer meaning that I asking I'm asking you to look at prefer asking you to look at that whatever Deli does and whatever other attempts that she would use to publicly, whether you want to say humiliate or ignore or sideline Trinidad and Tobago, it will be impossible so to do that. Let us not waste time with that.

[00:34:07]So all those grandstanding going to Grenada, going to Barbados, none of them have the infrastructure for gas and the treatment of raw gas coming out of from God given earth and resource.

[00:34:26]Not like Trinidad and Tobago, you know.

[00:34:30]I'm saying they don't have it at all.

[00:34:35]None of them are as close to the boundary where whether it be the dragon, whether it be the manity, whether it be the Lauren, none of them have a boundary that is so close in proximity to where the gas is. Even though of course it may be in Venezuelan waters or territory. None of them.

[00:35:12]None of them have had the goodwill or the good graces or the consideration favorably of the American government.

[00:35:33]It is it is foolhardy to talk about futuristically and future administration. But even in those circumstance, let's say another let's say uh other administration comes in to office other than the Republicans, they will have to deal with Trinidad and Tobago because all administrations and all of America had problems with Venezuela and Maduro.

[00:36:12]and Trinidad Tobago would have been a facilitator by way of utterances, not by actual deployment of assets, but by diplomatic maneuverings that would have included if it became necessary.

[00:36:40]the utilization of the territory called Trinidad and Tobago only if Venezuela had attacked a sister caricum state Guyana and therefore the sequo.

[00:36:59]So let us not waste time those grandstanding.

[00:37:04]Strong is just making an ass of himself by going and taking picture with Deli to do what?

[00:37:14]And as I've said last night and I think it is worth repeating and I did not emphasize on the ground report this morning but I'll do that tomorrow morning.

[00:37:24]by any stretch of the imagination.

[00:37:29]Let us assume God forbid and he has forbidden. So I want to say that it's an impossibility but yet let's assume let's hypothetically say that somehow PNM remained in office up to today.

[00:37:50]You search your conscience because my mind is already made up.

[00:37:57]Do you think that the dragon gas and the Laurel manity and all of the crossborder issues including a of license from the United States? Do you think that the PNM would have been able to get that license and show a ready and palpable and inevitable access to that gas across in Venezuela.

[00:38:35]Do you think so?

[00:38:37]It's obvious the the I mean I've given you a rhetorical question because the answer is obvious. No.

[00:38:46]No.

[00:38:48]Because if it is that the PNM administration was saying in opposition that they are concerned about the radar, it means therefore there would have been no radar allowed in Trinidad, no American radar. Let us not waste time. You see, I'm saying this for a particular reason because the people like to blow hot and cold and TRY TO EXTRACT AS MUCH advantage even though it is total nonsense and illogical and inongrant with their with their disposition whether it be verbal or physical. So we have to we have to reconcile that and we have to of course to jettison or to eradicate or annihilate that nonsense. They cannot have it both ways.

[00:39:42]They cannot have it. The PNM cannot have it both ways. You cannot now say for example, oh Camela Pasadessa said that the dragon deal and so today um but but she fighting to get diplomatic relations going with Venezuela in order to get the gas. The gas will come Trinidad and Tobago's way whether you like it or not. whether she said that or not.

[00:40:13]And as if to deliberately add insult to our intelligence, whether it be Beckles, whether it be Short Young and any one of their minions, including of course I imps Bert and of course Apron, sorry, I mean Avery Brown, they will never tell you that the circumstances under which Kabla Pasad Bessa said that the dragon gas deal was dead was meteorically different to the present situation.

[00:40:49]when they came into office, even though it was a short span, the OFAC license was taken away from Short Young as prime minister and that there was an Amada coming this way to what we now know to extract Maduro from Venezuela. But we didn't know that that time.

[00:41:21]But the fact is that the new government after the 28th of April last year decidedly said that they are in support of the efforts of the Americans. and of course vicariously.

[00:41:38]In other words, not having to lift a not having to lift a boat or lift or provide a scent.

[00:41:47]The Americans were getting rid right here in the Caribbean, right here in the southern Caribbean, right closer to our our shores, our borders, our maritime asset, persons who would have been engaged in what in contraband, whether it be drugs or whatever it is. The Americans was doing that for us because we have a drug and of course uh um a drug and arms and ammunition problem and so the Americans are doing it for us. So it was correct for for Camela to do that and a good thing because today we inevitably going to benefit from the dragon gas because of what transpired under the extraction of Maduro facing of course trial in the United States at this time. But let's go to the line. A pleasure. Good night to welcome to the corridor.

[00:42:41]>> Yes, sir. Dr. Lup.

[00:42:42]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:42:43]>> How are you, sir?

[00:42:44]>> I'm fine. I'm fine in the circumstance.

[00:42:46]>> All right. So, the these PNM people are they lack understanding, you know, [laughter] especially these people on the ground.

[00:42:53]>> Yeah. How the hell you can say that she she know?

[00:42:58]>> Go ahead.

[00:42:58]>> Since 2012, >> Yes.

[00:43:00]>> Venezuela was sanctioned by the United States, >> right?

[00:43:05]>> Under Barack Obama. Yes, >> Barack Obama.

[00:43:10]>> Yes.

[00:43:10]>> And he was a Democrat.

[00:43:11]>> Yes.

[00:43:12]>> He wasn't a Republican.

[00:43:13]>> Yes.

[00:43:14]>> He was a Democrat.

[00:43:16]>> So they must learn he shall stop talking foolishness. And therefore your your common sense will tell you my friend I just I don't want to interrupt here but to make certain that I conclude my argument and that is your common sense will tell you that if the the Democrats come back in into office or replace the the current Republican administration they are going to be grateful to Tray and Tobago because because Maduro was the problem and that has been solved and that they're getting access to the oil and so how the hell that they will ignore and Tobago's role in that whole process. And of course, how would they gravitate to Barbados and the other countries that did not facilitate? I mean, it's just not it's not common sense. And we must we must disabuse and we must of course direct people in that direction. But go ahead, my friend.

[00:44:08]>> And let's not forget let's not forget.

[00:44:10]>> Yes.

[00:44:11]>> Under Biden, they had a bounty on on Maduro head.

[00:44:15]>> Yes.

[00:44:16]>> And and then Trump increased increase the bounty.

[00:44:20]>> That's right.

[00:44:21]>> Right. So, I don't know people coming up and talking about >> if administration change I I heard some scientists today I read that saying that you know um um we we we may find ourselves in some problems if the administration changes in the United States. No, they cannot be is impossible. every administration it was a bipartisan objective to deal with Maduro. Maduro has been dealt with.

[00:44:52]>> Everybody wanted his head to be to face trial in the United States. That has happened. Trinidad and Tobago has assisted in in in facilitating that not with assets but with their diplomacy.

[00:45:09]So how the hell America could be ungrateful to us? Come on. Go ahead.

[00:45:15]>> And the Americans policy always always remain the same. Is a continuity.

[00:45:20]>> Yes.

[00:45:21]>> Right.

[00:45:22]>> It don't matter if it's Republican or Democratic.

[00:45:24]>> That's right.

[00:45:25]>> The it's a continuity. So these people just talking rubbish.

[00:45:28]>> Yeah.

[00:45:29]>> Right. And let us look at this. Look, let let us look at another angle.

[00:45:33]>> Go ahead. Had Caramela followed the propaganda of the PNM and had gone the way of the PNM, we would have been sanctioned the government. And you know what they would have said? Look what she do. She get we sanction.

[00:45:46]>> That's right.

[00:45:46]>> Right. But I have I have gone further.

[00:45:50]I've said that if remain in office our cook.

[00:45:55]>> Well, of course. That is why Rowley that is why Rowley run and um give the the reigns to Scott Young because if you if you remember 2016 >> hoping that somehow that would that would pacify the iniquities uh the in the indelible and the and the irrefutable iniquities that they perpetrated on the people of Trinidad and Tobago pursuing their own private and ideological uh WAP disposition but go ahead. Yeah.

[00:46:28]>> Yeah. So if you remember clearly when Trump was in his first store he had a meeting with all the cariccom heads minus rowdy because Rowi was undermining the USA government with Maduro and they knew that.

[00:46:44]>> That's right.

[00:46:45]>> And that's why that is why the the the the American ambassador to Trinata called Styong Lia.

[00:46:52]>> I don't know if you remember that unprecedented. Yes.

[00:46:55]>> Yeah. Uncharacteristic of a diplomat, particularly of the stature of an American diplomat here. But he had to do it because they were blatant and and what and to what to what avail to show that somehow they could challenge the great United States. Just imagine that.

[00:47:14]So that you have of course ky raises saying who the hell is Trump? [laughter] All of >> Yeah. But in addition to >> All of that transpired.

[00:47:24]>> But in addition to that, we just import most of our food to America.

[00:47:29]>> But we our biggest partner that your biggest partner.

[00:47:36]>> Yeah.

[00:47:36]>> Our internet our internet come from America.

[00:47:40]>> So all of these things would have been in jeopardy. And we have a lot of barrel a barrel what I consider to be uh residents from Trinidad in the United States. Right.

[00:47:52]>> Yeah.

[00:47:53]>> Yeah. And of course um a lot of family and relations there as well. More than I would say more than even in the UK. So >> um the PN was totally out of it and they better shut up because they making themselves buffoons. The the arguments are so dultry and so inongruent and so nebulous and so tenuous and so simplistic that it make it making all it's making all of them look like asinine specimen of inhumity frankly >> and before I close before I close right I understand that the opposition leader come to talk about the state of the economy that is very laughable So who have us in this position right now? Who the hell have us in this position right now?

[00:48:46]>> Saying where the money where the money to do this, where the money to do that, where the money to, of course increase in the salaries or the or the percentage increase to public service, etc. And you met $12 billion in 2015. And then by the time you you demitted office in 20 uh 25 April 28 it was reduced to about 4 billion. us are talking about but yet still you have the audacity to come in people's faces and believe that we are asses and tell us where the money where you getting the money from knowing full well what you did that level of prleacy waste corruption nepotism and we just have to look at the cabinet recusals and bal house to know where the money would have gone >> and the other part I don't know what what is your take on it this this um thing about the office of the president 500 million US loans.

[00:49:43]>> Yes.

[00:49:44]>> I I will listen to our offer to find out what is your take on that.

[00:49:47]>> Okay.

[00:49:47]>> Because I think that is that could be similar to a misbehavior in public office.

[00:49:54]>> Yes.

[00:49:54]>> I don't know if you but I'll listen >> once the go a particular way but I I will certainly um touch on it before the the end of tonight's program. Uh but once again of course the num the number to call you're seeing it there on the screen. uh 3376940.

[00:50:13]3376940. Of course, the other number 3366594.

[00:50:17]If you have little assistance that you could provide to us, we will appreciate and if we can assist you, we'll of course call that number as well right now. Uh pleasant good night. Welcome to the corridor.

[00:50:28]>> Hello. Yeah. Um that last caller there talking about um sanctions.

[00:50:34]>> Yes. Among other things. Yeah.

[00:50:38]>> Yeah.

[00:50:39]Just say this. Even the Venezuelians and all will thank us in Even the Venezuelans. What?

[00:50:49]>> Will thank us.

[00:50:51]>> We thank us. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Thank us. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. They have not yet. They have not yet demonstrated that because elections didn't come yet.

[00:51:01]But I'm sure that LCNM will be seen the last of any office in that country. Go ahead.

[00:51:07]>> Go ahead. Right. But you see the thing the thing about the the last caller there talking about sanctions. He he said what um that even we we we import or export food and all concerning the sanctions.

[00:51:22]>> No no you were you were saying that um trader and Tobago has a a very huge u commercial and trading relations with the United States that we were saying and therefore he talked about etc. >> Um what what would be affected then? um in areas and now when you when when a um a large country like the US put on sanctions on another country, right?

[00:51:48]Even in when they put on the sanctions in Vene Venezuela, Venezuela has suffered a lot through even the importation of medication for people who have things like diabetes and all these things, you know.

[00:52:00]>> Yeah. non-communicable diseases uh lifestyle diseases that is rampant in modern in modern human beings and in modern societies. Yes, I agree. So it would have killed off a lot of people um in terms of people not people not being able to get the medication and stuff like that you know >> and that could transpired for for co >> it was a fear that these people come in here and bring the various um strains remember there strains and they said one I think came from Colombia and therefore it you don't have to stretch your imagination much to know what could come from Venezuela having regard of course to the porosity of their medical system across there having deteriorated rapidly. But go ahead.

[00:52:48]>> Yeah. But I want to I want to go down a particular road here.

[00:52:52]>> Um now um when I first um when I was in primary school >> Uhhuh.

[00:53:00]>> right. Um now how does Warren um be able to get a doctorate?

[00:53:09]I want to go down a particular road. Go ahead.

[00:53:12]Um just give a few a few seconds with this. Let me see if I could get it right and go down a particular to show you something.

[00:53:19]>> Yeah, go ahead.

[00:53:20]>> Um how does get a decorated? Because I remember when I was going to school in primary school and you're very young still, right? and the teacher comes up in a blackboard and he explains um what like if you're doing maths he will explain a particular sum or or mathematical problem right and after explaining it right he will ask we will ask questions concerning the same thing that he put on the board you know and then he will make us do it individually Right.

[00:53:58]>> Right.

[00:53:59]>> Now, after the individual thing, he will put you through the test. Now, if you get wrong, I believe in trial and error.

[00:54:08]>> Right.

[00:54:09]>> Mhm.

[00:54:09]>> I mean it from from since primary school. If you if you get wrong, he make you do it again.

[00:54:17]>> Right.

[00:54:18]>> This is how I I know it from small. And you learn through that. Now from primary school it will most problems will will will um will emerge and it will take you through that process of learning right until you reach higher standards when you move from primary school to college and then from college to maybe university and and beyond that they have um higher learning right.

[00:54:44]>> Yes. But to achieve abductate you have to go through the process right that whole thing and then you go to university and the professors will test you accordingly. They may put you if you do your thesis you write a whole um thing like a a whole thesis and they will questioning question you on it right and then if certain things are wrong they make you go back.

[00:55:11]>> Yes.

[00:55:13]Now, if you're answering their questions correctly or I don't want to use the word correctly, but answering the questions in a a meaningful um positive way, >> they would then you know give you marks accordingly.

[00:55:32]>> Yes.

[00:55:33]>> Right. Um, how did I mean it always troubled me, but how did growing achieve that Dr. How what college or what university he went to to really get that?

[00:55:53]>> It appears that that he got it at at the University of the Westies, but he went, I think, um, Jamaica.

[00:55:59]>> Uh, yeah. And um yeah, he he went Jamaica and um there's a story that somebody told me that I think is very reliable. He said that the man was a pervert from very early when everybody of course will go to the bathroom, you know, the common bathroom. Well, he will he will go, but he will he he will go with his most people will go with a with a bath towel around around the waist. He he used to put his on on on his shoulder.

[00:56:36]Yeah. Yeah. So everything exposed.

[00:56:38][laughter] He's a sick man. That's what I was told.

[00:56:44]A sick fell. He was sick from since then. [laughter] Total pervert. Yeah. Anybody put him to around around the waist and covered himself. He pull up his on the shoulder and [laughter] walk in just so [laughter] you see that I used to call him every day that he's a rapist and a pedophile and he can't do nothing because he know it's true. [laughter] So he never really achieved that.

[00:57:28]>> Yeah. So the man was so for a long long long [laughter] time. Yeah. So I have to believe the people at them when they say that. Yeah. [laughter] You know because why I'm going through all this I believe in in in trial and error.

[00:57:45]>> Now political science will also tell you that you you I mean you got to use common sense too in political science.

[00:57:51]>> Yeah. There's a lot of common sense theory, right? Because you know, you never could tell how individuals will think. And then again, it's not it's not just about common sense. It's about leaders inspiring people.

[00:58:06]>> Yeah.

[00:58:06]>> To do their best.

[00:58:08]>> Yeah.

[00:58:08]>> Right. You understand?

[00:58:10]>> Like like I think I told you some time ago how PJ son grandson, right? M >> um has gone to the to the to the um uh what do you call it down in the in the thing to play football?

[00:58:26]>> Yeah. Yeah. In uh Skinner Park.

[00:58:29]>> No, no, no, no. In Brazil. In Brazil.

[00:58:32]>> Oh, >> in Brazil. Okay.

[00:58:33]>> Yeah. P's grandson.

[00:58:35]>> I see. Okay. P. Oh, P. Right. Okay.

[00:58:38]Okay. That great >> great iconic >> you know African >> African I mean icon. Yes. Go ahead.

[00:58:45]>> Yeah. that ball.

[00:58:46]>> Um he he went down in the in the um what they call the not the Bronx Cher.