The Devil (doesn't) Wears Crocs & Emily Blunt Says to Quit Your Job?!

Added: 2026-05-06

[00:00:00]I think it depends on what your bum looks like to start with, but I don't need to have a seam that looks like my [ __ ] is eating my pants. It doesn't do anything flattering for me. I'm happy for you that it does for you, Brit, not for me.

[00:00:12]Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Britney. Do you know what? Sometimes we get to the end of the week, right? So, like just to kind of set the scene for you, every Sunday night, Brit and I, we get on a little group call and we do a little team planning meeting around what is it that we're going to talk about this week. And every week I get to Saturday and every week I'm like, "Fuck, nothing's happened in my life cuz all I do is run around after three children and no one cares about my children anymore except for me."

[00:00:44]>> They do. I I care about your three children.

[00:00:47]>> No, but every week I'm like, I can't talk about the kids again. I need something else. But I don't do anything except parent. So I'm kind of in that phase of life where it's only ever revolved and related around kids. And then this weekend as I was walking on a little walk with Matt and we were walking through Bondi, I ran into someone who works in actually I'll tell you the full story, but I'm I'm going to cut to the chase. This please please do Laura. We're on the edge of your seat so far. It's a weekend and you're on a little walk walking on a walk with Matt >> without the children. No. Okay. We had, if you guys saw it on the weekend, um, a very big thing happened for Tony May and that is that Sydney Sweeney, the Sydney Sweeney, the Hollywood actress Sydney Sweeney, who was in a film that Britney hated, but apart from that, it's still Sydney Sweeney. She walked into Tony May in our Bondi store unannounced. Couple of security guards stood out the front.

[00:01:43]No one knew she was coming. She walked in with a hat on, with her hair out, massive sunglasses on, trying to go incognito with her best friend. And she walked in and she walked over to our finery cabinet, which is where we have like all of our solid gold rings. And her and her best friend picked out bestie matching rings and she bought them. And then she left with Tony May and went off into the world wearing Tony May jewelry.

[00:02:08]>> It's absolutely insane. Did she roll up with security? She did it very subtly and like really incognito. Like the two men stood out the front. If you didn't know who she was and you saw these two women walk into the store, you would have assumed that the two guys standing out the front were like her friends or her boyfriends or like you know someone someone with them. But it was only after a is her name. She was working in the store that day. She's one of our workers. She's amazing. She kind of didn't realize who it was. She was just serving this customer and then she started speaking and she was like, "Wait a second." And then was like, why are people looking in the store? Kind of weird. Like, what's going There was like an energy shift around it that she was like, "Something's happening here." And then that's when she clocked it and put two and two together and was like, "Oh my god, I'm in the middle of selling these two rings to Sydney, sweetie. What the what the hell is happening right now?" It's so funny that you're like, she was super incognito. She had security, a hat. Sunny's definitely didn't want to be seen or known. And then 2 minutes later, you're on socials blasting it to half a million people.

[00:03:08]Like Sydney Sweeny's in Bondi right now.

[00:03:10]Everybody get down. Like you just literally outed the poor girl. She's like trying to hustle. Drops cash at your shop and then you're like she here she is. I've shared a live location. To be fair and in my defense she had already posted that she was in Bondi.

[00:03:23]And I checked that first because I was like I'm not going to dox a customer. I don't think she did cuz I went onto her page and checked. I don't think she did cuz I was like hang on Sydney Sween is literally at stage coach a festival in America cuz I I followed her and I was like I'm sure I just saw paparazzi photos of her. So I went on and that's when I laughed cuz I thought [ __ ] Laura's just out at the girl. No mate, she was definitely at Tony May on Bondai Beach. I didn't know that she was in the store. I had no concept of what was going on. Like Eda, our store retail staff hadn't told me. And Matt and I, like I said, we were on a walk and we were walking along like the main drag of Bondi. And we ran into this guy who used to back in the day work for one of the media publications. So I know him from like when we were going through the throws of The Bachelor, right? When you're kind of like doing every interview that there is under the sun.

[00:04:13]He now works alongside Paparazzi. And we're walking along and I see this guy and he's like he's like oi you two. He goes you'll never guess who just walked out of your store. And I was like who?

[00:04:25]Like tell me please please tell me more.

[00:04:27]And he was like dude Sydney Sweeney. We just photographed her leaving Tony May.

[00:04:31]And he's like but don't tell anyone because I think that they were wanting to sell the stories themselves. No wait me out. Hear me out. I didn't do anything wrong at this point. So they were going to sell the stories of the fact that she was in Bondi and she was shopping in Bondi. But then at the same time that I ran into him and he told me that is at the same time as our Tony May group chat that we have like a WhatsApp group chat started blowing up and had commented and then it kind of like all unraveled there.

[00:05:00]>> Hang on. I think there's a bit of a theme here. Didn't you also dox Zack Efron once?

[00:05:05]>> It was many moons ago and I I ran into Zack Efron in Bondai Beach. I didn't run into him. He's not my friend. I saw him in a restaurant through the window and then we talked about it on the podcast and apparently no one knew he was in Sydney. I just assume I truly just assume that when a celebrity that big is just kind of like in a new place and wandering around doing things like the media know about it. They're just trying to sell the story to the highest bidder.

[00:05:29]No, you know, they don't always know about it because they do what Sydney Sweeney does. Actually, before we moved back to Sydney Sweeney, I was pissed off at that cuz you waited until the podcast to say that Zack Efron was in town. I was single. I was like, "Bro, wouldn't you message me?" Like, so I could go down there and be like, "Oh my god, I'm also getting pizza. That's crazy." Like, I would have tried to get pizza next to him if you had have given me the option, but you didn't.

[00:05:52]>> Sorry for the stitch up.

[00:05:53]>> But Sydney Sweeney, not always do we know and do the media know that they're here. And that's like that's a by choice. And when I said before, Sydney Sweeney was still posting her whole weekend at this festival in America, they do that intentionally so that people don't know they're here.

[00:06:09]They always are posting a little bit behind the times so that they don't get hassled. So like, yes, Sydney, they knew apparently a photographer knew Sydney was here, but it's not always. But I love that you're trying to protect yourself for what you did.

[00:06:20]>> I am. And also, she was very, very vocal across the weekend. She was at a Sydney Swans game and she was posting from the Sydney Swans game, and the Sydney Swans were posting about her as well. I do not want the headline of this to be that I dock Sydney Sweeney. That didn't happen.

[00:06:34]I just was very enthusiastic and I shared that she came into the store.

[00:06:37]That is it. That's all that happened.

[00:06:39]So, this gets even funnier. We started to get like I say we in the podcast. We were getting DMs from the Sydney Swans to our podcast DMs urgently trying to alert Laura that Sydney Sweeney was in fact spotted at the game with the Tony May rings on. So, the Sydney Swans DM'd the Sydney Swans DM'd us. They were like, "Hey, we don't know how to let Laura know, but Sydney's here right now wearing Tony May rings." And that was really really cute because that's the power of the lifer community. Guys, are the Sydney Swans lifers?

[00:07:12]>> Well, no. It turns out that the person who was managing the marketing for that day and was actually like I wanted to say Sydney's handler, but basically the person that like takes care of her is that she was actually a lifer. Her name was Michelle and she messaged me and she sent through a whole heap of photos.

[00:07:26]Guys, it's a small world. There's 60° worth of separation between all of us right now. My first thought when you told me was, "Oh, I would have been off my staff member. You need to have like, you know, when a bank gets robbed, there's like that emergency button under the bench that you call for help. I would put one of those in that it presses it and it alerts you straight away that someone's in the store so that you can pretend to walk in at the same time because I would have wanted to go there coincidentally and then been like, "Oh my god." And then gifted her so much more. I would have been like, "Here, take take this as well." Because like I love that she bought stuff, but imagine if you could have just like thrown more on her. I don't know because I mean I thought about this myself, don't get me wrong. I had a moment where I was like, don't charge her, give her the whole store whatever she wants. But then I thought about it and I was like, you know what? Like obviously so many brands go down the route of influencer gifting or do influencer brand partnerships.

[00:08:19]They do it because it works, right? It is such an effective way of getting eyeballs on a brand. And I think had we done that or had we tried to be like here take more or like made a thing about it, I think it would have lost the validity to it. But there's something really cool about the fact that it wasn't something that was given away.

[00:08:37]And like she bought one for herself, she bought one for a friend. And I think if we'd just given her products and be like, "Here, take more," it would have cheapened it a little bit. Don't get me wrong, I'm not above it, but no, >> it just happened in such a rogue organic way that it was very, very cool. No, I would have taken her money but then gifted her on top. But it's very cool.

[00:08:57]You should be very very impressed like when she has access to everything in the world. Any topend jeweler, any designer, you know that she would have access to.

[00:09:04]So it is really really cool. Did you see an upsell? I don't know if you saw that.

[00:09:07]I tagged Tony May the other day. Did Did you see an upsell in anything? I did I did a post for you. Um I did some stories as well. Got a lot of traction on my end.

[00:09:17]>> Once again, um Britney 20 if anyone wants to use it. No. Do you know what though? I reckon you would have made a monster if I had a code, but I didn't have a code. I just posted it.

[00:09:27]>> All right. Well, look. Anyway, the very cool thing and kind of like the full round story of that is like we said the she was at the Sydney Swans game. She was wearing the ring and so many of you guys had seen the photo and sent it to me. Like I have been sent the photo of her and the Tony May piece hundreds of times now. And yeah, it was it was really really cool and very full circle because as much as she bought the piece, we were kind of like, is she actually going to wear it? Is it a gift for someone? But yeah, it's now we have photo proof and it's yeah, it's a it's a very cool full circle story for Tony May for the brand.

[00:09:59]>> I do love in our group chat, Laura sent like a photo, right? She's like, "Shut up. Here she is wearing the piece and I don't want to offend you, but I couldn't even see it." It was like a paparazzi photo from so far away that then we' zoomed in on the ring and it was like this blurry gold thing and I was like wow that's amazing. I was like you couldn't even see it in how [ __ ] dare you.

[00:10:24]>> But you couldn't it was so blurry cuz we had to zoom up. We need to get like one of those huge um paparazzi lenses.

[00:10:30]>> It's so true though. But also it's really hard. Okay, this is one thing that is so unfair about having a jewelry label, right? If you're a clothing label, it's so easy to get photos of people wearing the products because like if I was a Cavari, for example, you send out some dresses and then like every influencer or every whoever you've sent it through is like they're going out for the night, they put a dress on and you get a very obvious picture of the dress.

[00:10:53]Jewelry is so subtle and it's such a styling element that's added on to people's outfits. Hence why we don't do a lot of gifting or a lot of giveaways because you could send out a bazillion pair of huggies and someone could post a photo but you you cannot see the jewelry and you can't see the brand. Yeah. And it's such a personal thing that like it doesn't get highlighted in the same way.

[00:11:11]So it's really really hard. Even if you do get someone wearing something, it's really hard to like, you know, pinpoint and get a photo. So yes, it may have been a grainy picture, but it was all we needed. You need to keep your eye on her stories because if that is like a best friend ring and something new that she's just gotten, she's not going to take that off. So, keep your eye on her stories because she'll probably put her hands up to talk and then you can screenshot it. Well, that's what we're doing now. Like hideeyed. But anyway, Brit, what's been happening in your life? What are the updates from Britley in Italy? Well, Laura, I had a similar feeling to you this weekend where I was like, "Wow, what am I going to do for content this week? Nothing's happened." And the universe also delivered, but not quite as much as it delivered for you. I burnt my vagina.

[00:11:55]>> Sorry. Sorry.

[00:11:57]>> Yep. It's up there with Sydney Sweeney.

[00:11:58]I know what you're thinking. What were you doing to it to burn it? Just vigorously masturbating. It's a carpet burn.

[00:12:04]>> It's a friction burn.

[00:12:06]>> I was sitting in bed and Ben and I were having a morning coffee.

[00:12:12]>> This is going >> I know. No, because it's just so stupid.

[00:12:17]But it's like a PSA warning to people.

[00:12:18]We're sitting in bed. We had the day off together. So, usually Ben has to get up really either I'm up at 5:30 in the morning doing this or Ben goes to work in the morning. But, so we don't really get to chill and have those cute, wholesome like Instagram slow mornings, but he was off. So, we did. We had coffee in bed and it was lovely. Anyway, it wasn't like we weren't getting freaky. I slept in undies. I was sitting in undies sitting up in the bed and I had a fresh like boiling hot coffee and as you do in the morning I decided to like rap for Ben like so I was like rap singing. I don't know why but I was on I was awake and I was on and I was like rapping.

[00:12:53]>> Can you give us an example of this just so I really I can really visualize what was happening.

[00:12:57]>> I'm not going to >> What were you rapping about?

[00:13:00]>> I don't know. I was just like it was like I was at a dance techno festival.

[00:13:04]Why?

[00:13:05]>> I don't know. I don't know what's wrong with me, but I'm This is what I do. When I wake up, I'm on. So, like I wake up, I'm not a snoozer. I'm like I wake up and I'm roaring and ready to go. And I just wanted to like have a dance party in the bed. I don't know. So, I'm dance partying and I spilled my whole boiling hot coffee came up all down my undies and into my crotch and into my vagina.

[00:13:30]And I don't know why, but my first thought I took a photo of it and sent it to Kesha. I was like, Kesha, she's like, hey, she sent me she had sent me a photo at the same time. It was her in Bali with a cocktail and I said, oh, how different our lives are. And I just sent her a picture of my crutch with burning hot coffee over it. That was my that was my immediate thought was like, "Oh, Kha needs to see my boiling hot crutch."

[00:13:52]Sorry, can I just get more clarification? If you're sending box shots to our employees who I I mean, we love to death. Kisha, unfortunately, is not here today. She is She's at a wedding. She's overseas. Um, if you were sending box shots, please tell me you had your underwear on. Yes. Okay. Cuz you made it sound like you sent her a photo of your burn. And I was like, of how much of your box shot were you sending, Kiche? Hey, hey, babe. Burnt my labas. Do you want me to send it to you?

[00:14:18]>> Yeah. Well, I feel left out that I wasn't included in the group chat, but Well, I was saving it for the podcast.

[00:14:24]>> Thank god. Thank god you kept that content fresh.

[00:14:27]>> [ __ ] you. It's all I had. Do you want to see it or not? Yeah, send it to me now.

[00:14:31]I'm ready for it.

[00:14:33]Anyway, thanks for your concern. I'm recovering well. How much of you did you burn?

[00:14:38]>> Well, it's it's not thirdderee or anything. So, the undies did stop it.

[00:14:42]I'm not going to be scarred, right? It's just it was just hot milk and hot coffee, but no one wants hot coffee on your vagina. Maybe some people do want hot coffee on your vagina, but that was as exciting as my weekend got.

[00:14:51]Unfortunately, the photo hasn't come through yet, but I am hanging on the edge of my seat. It does. You know what?

[00:14:55]Have you ever gone and had laser hair removal and been burnt in the process?

[00:14:59]Yeah. Remember they burnt my lip and my labia? Remember? Remember once on the podcast they came in and they like they were going too close and then they went This is what I think people don't talk about enough because I think laser hair removal has been normalized to a point where people don't share the horror stories of it. The only time cuz I'm I'm not a laser galley, right? When full bush comes back in fashion, I am there and I am ready.

[00:15:25]>> We know you you told us about your back hair. Yeah, >> we know you're not a laser.

[00:15:29]>> I'm not I'm not a laser girly. I have and have been all stages of hair, but I have tried to go and get laser. I got it done once and she burnt me so bad. Like it was so unnecessarily painful and I was like, surely this is not what everyone's experiencing. Surely that the burn isn't normal. I could smell it burning and I was like, is that my vagina or burning skin? I think it was burning skin.

[00:15:51]>> It wasn't burning. There was Well, there was no hair there to burn, so it was just skin. So, it had to have been burning skin. Anyway, it was very painful. And that was the reason why I never went back and got a second. You're meant to go for what, like eight appointments. I never even made it back for appointment number two, cuz I was like, I won't have a vagina left. I didn't tell you this again either, but I got a laser hair removal just before I left. Like the day before I left. I think it was like my eighth one. Did you get the photo?

[00:16:14]>> You can't send pictures like that to people. Britney, >> if I didn't know that was coffee, I'm sorry. You look like you've been [ __ ] on.

[00:16:23]>> I said that. And Ben's like, "Bro, it's brown." He's like, "If you said that any you said to anybody that that was my jizz," he's like, "I would be off it."

[00:16:31]No, it's like literally brown coffee.

[00:16:33]No, you can't be you can't be offended by that, Laura.

[00:16:36]>> I'm not offended. I would if I was said that, I would feel as though I'd been violated. So, now that I know the story, thank God. But prior.

[00:16:45]>> Yeah, but I'm not putting it on my stories.

[00:16:47]>> Well, everyone, if you go to YouTube right now, we'll put the phone So anyway, that's as exciting as my life got. Okay, so I know I said that I all I have to contribute is to stories about children and truly it is it's kind of where my life is at at the moment, but something did happen on the weekend. Um, apart from the whole Sydney sweetie fiasco, and it had to do with Marley and a new pet that she is in love with. Now, we have a cat.

[00:17:14]>> A >> and we have a dog.

[00:17:16]>> I saw this and it made my heart so warm.

[00:17:20]I was like, it made me feel like I was 6 years old again. Did it really? Because it's kind of made me squirmish. So, I'm glad that you have different feels. We have pets. Like, we are we are a pet family. I am open to all kinds of pets, right? Like I'm I'm here for it. Growing up, I had literally everything under the sun. I had cats, dogs, guinea pigs, pigeons, chickens, like mice, rats, hermit crabs, like you name it. We had every single kind of pet. There were axelottles, fish, like everything. I had an axelottle, too.

[00:17:49]>> Everyone had an It was axelottals were the pet of the '9s. Everyone had an axelottle.

[00:17:54]>> No, I don't think everyone had one. I don't think it was like an everyday household, but mine died of a fungus, a skin fungus.

[00:18:01]>> Kind of like where I'm at at the moment with my back.

[00:18:03]>> Yeah, similar. Similar.

[00:18:06]>> So, look, uh, Marley has pets. She's not really the animal enthusiast in our house. Like, Lola really loves Buster, our dog. Like, she's obsessed with him.

[00:18:16]Lola loves raspberry. She's like the real animal lover. And Marley, as much as she likes the animals, she's also a bit like uninterested in them at the same time. She's polite to them. She'll pat them. She'll tolerate them. But she's not like over the top in love with the fact that we have a cat and a dog.

[00:18:32]It's just not her thing. Fair. Fair. So, the weekend comes and we're walking home from the markets and she finds something in the garden. She finds a garden snail.

[00:18:43]Now, the love that this kid has managed to form for a garden snail in the past 3 days is like kind of borderline concerning. So, firstly, she brought it home. She was like, "Mom, can I keep this as a pet?" And I was like, "Sure, I don't care. It's a gun snail."

[00:18:57]>> But how did she take it home? Did she just pick it up by the shell and like walk with it by the shell or did she put it on her skin and like walk with it the slug on her skin?

[00:19:04]>> So, we she was on a scooter like on her little like uh three-wheel scooter. She picked it up. She put it on her hand and she scooted the entire way home with a snail sliding up and down her arm. That is actually so cute. She's called him Slimy Rock Johnson. It went one step further.

[00:19:22]So, we got like a little plastic Tupperware container. We set it up. I put like little leaves in there. We fed it. Like, I'm entertaining it. Don't get me wrong. I'm all about the snail. I don't mind. She can have a pet snail.

[00:19:32]Anyway, she decided, do you guys remember a couple of weeks back Marley went busking in Nusa? And I said like she made an obscene amount of money from busking.

[00:19:39]>> How could we forget?

[00:19:40]>> She made like 160 bucks, right? It's been sitting in the cupboard because she's been trying to earn enough money to buy herself a Kindle. So, we've been adding to it whenever she does like, you know, little task. She makes $2 and we put like $2 in her Kindle jar. And she has been working towards this goal of buying a Kindle for the last couple of months and she's almost there. So, the poor thing will be able to read in what, 2029.

[00:20:05]>> You work for that book, honey. [ __ ] >> If you want to read, you'll work for it.

[00:20:10]Godamn it.

[00:20:11]>> So, she decided she no longer wants to save for a Kindle. She decided she wanted to buy a terrarium, like a tank for the snail to go in. So, we go to Pet Barn on the weekend and she buys a fullon tank. We've set up a home for the snail. We watched YouTube videos as to how to keep the snail alive. Brit, do you know how long a garden snail lives for?

[00:20:35]>> A snail 10 years.

[00:20:38]>> 15 years.

[00:20:39]>> Wow.

[00:20:40]>> A garden snail in captivity can live for 15 years. Did you Google if it needs friends? You know how like snails need friends?

[00:20:49]>> No. True story. In Switzerland, where Ben's from, it is illegal. You can go, you can be charged if you have one guinea pig. Really? Yeah, because they're an animal that needs friends.

[00:21:00]Otherwise, it's like lonely and it's neglect. So, like, do snails need friends? Did you look that up? Cuz I'm doubting you in. No. Do you know what we did look up? So, snails are hemaphrodites. So, they they can like I don't know if they can impregnate themselves. I'm just live googling.

[00:21:16]Step one, snails do not need friends to be healthy or happy. They're not overly social animals and they do not experience loneliness. Well, there you go. Snaily is going to be fine. Slimy Rock Johnson is going to be well loved in this house. But, um, I just also did another live Google. So, yes, they're hemaphrodites, which also means that they can have babies on their own. They can impregnate themselves and just have loads of babies without ever having to have a man in their life. And doesn't that sound like a [ __ ] joyful way of living? That is absolutely crazy. If only humans could be I mean, we know we are, but if only a human could be a hemaphrodite and never have to have sex to be able to have a baby if that's what they wanted. Just do it on your own.

[00:21:53]Impregnate yourself. Live your best life. I'm here for it.

[00:21:57]>> No, I The sex is the fun part.

[00:21:59]>> I'll sign that petition.

[00:22:01]>> So, what is that going to mean? Your snail's going to have babies. You're going to have like a 100 pet snails for 15 years.

[00:22:06]>> So, my my thing is you're [ __ ] >> I kept saying to Marley, I was like, you can only have the snail as a pet, and you can only buy an atrium if you or whatever it's called if you were actually going to take care of it.

[00:22:15]>> An atrium. That's what's cool.

[00:22:19]>> What is a terrarium? You can only buy an atrium and fill it with birds if you're going to keep this snail alive.

[00:22:26]>> No, that's an Avery.

[00:22:27]>> I don't know what ANY OF THIS [ __ ] IS.

[00:22:32]>> You can only buy a gazebo.

[00:22:38]So, she promised she wants to keep the snail alive. Imagine. Imagine being a 16year-old girl and bringing a boy home and being like, "Oh, that's my 15year-old snail."

[00:22:48]I think that is the most wholesome thing I have ever heard. I would love nothing more than this to be the story arc that when Marley's 16, she still has Rock Johnson, whatever his name is.

[00:22:59]>> Slimy Rock Johnson. I'm just depressed that she likes the snail more than she likes Buster. Like, it's odd.

[00:23:06]>> It's interesting. You should ask her why. Like, ask genuinely like what's the infatuation? Because you think kids would usually like things that they can cuddle and like play with and roll around with or take for a walk or like engage with, but I don't know how you engage with a snail. So, I'll tell you one more snail fact cuz I've watched so many snail videos on the weekend. So, snails have little teeth. Once they get big enough and they're on your hand, you can feel them. They grind their teeth across your skin cuz they taste whatever it is that they're going over. So, you can feel the snail grinding itself. It's also how it gets calcium. You have to put like eggshells in there. We've gone deep, guys. This is a snail podcast.

[00:23:42]>> Wow. And so I No, I'm genuinely really fascinated.

[00:23:47]>> No one else is.

[00:23:48]>> They are. Is she taking it out and like does she spend time with it? So like does she walk around the house with it and just hangs out with it on her skin?

[00:23:56]>> Yeah. The kid has watched a good I would say hour and a half of how to care for a snail videos. She goes and she washes her hands and then she wets her hands and then she lets the snail crawl all over her and she holds the sn she's in love with the snail. It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life. Like she has a a deep Have you Has anyone ever seen like the little kid on socials at the moment that's going around and it's like this reel of a little girl and she has a dead sicarta and she carries a dead sicarta around everywhere or has that just been fed to me?

[00:24:23]>> No, I have not seen that that your algorithm is so cooked. It's a viral clip of this little toddler who walks around with a dead cicata. That's Marley except it's a snail and it's alive.

[00:24:33]She's like taking the snail everywhere.

[00:24:34]She wanted to take it to school today and I had to tell her that she wasn't able to. So yeah, this we're we're in a new phase of parenting and that is everything is a pet phase.

[00:24:44]>> Have you looked into this? Because you can get diseases from snails and get really sick.

[00:24:48]>> Oh god, I don't want to know about it.

[00:24:50]What is it?

[00:24:50]>> Yeah, humans can contract serious diseases from snails which is both within eating them or just handling them without protection. One of the specific diseases can cause menitis. Oh, wear gloves when handling snails or cleaning up slugfested areas. Oh, for [ __ ] sake. I hate to put a dampener on things, but maybe you need to go home and Google that. And maybe the snail needs to disappear. How am I meant to get rid of the snail? She's going to be devastated. Maybe just explain the truth. Maybe just say you can get sick from it. People eat snails. They cook them. Surely they're okay. It's a garden snail. I I'm just doing my due diligence. I've done my job. You all heard it here first. You do with it what you will. Do with that information what you will.

[00:25:33]>> And poor Slimy. Well, most of you would probably have seen that over the weekend, The Devil Wears Prada 2 was released worldwide. Now, this has been an absolute box office smash hit. They reckon it's probably going to be the biggest movie of 2026. Over the weekend alone, it's already made reportedly $234 million US. And that is at the time of this recording, which is like I think only 3 days. Like I'm pretty sure it's only been out for 3 days. That is astronomical.

[00:26:03]>> I know. It's crazy, right? To put it into perspective, and when I was looking at this as well, The Devil Wears Prada, the very first movie from a box office perspective, did $326 million globally.

[00:26:13]So, it's already well on its way to surpass the movie that was so iconic that made them want to make the second sequel in this. And it's I think it's been 20 years, which seems insane because I feel like it feels like yesterday. And also, sorry, the cast looks exactly the same. like not not one of those cards Meryill Stre and Anne Hathaway have not aged or and Emily Blunt for that matter have barely aged.

[00:26:37]Anyway, that's not what we're talking about. I do have a confession to make. I don't want to say this out loud, but I'm going to. Don't come for me. Don't judge me. I had never seen The Devil Wears Prada. Never ever seen it. I feel like it's one of those movies where if you haven't, it's kind of like Avatar, right? Like I've never seen Avatar. If you miss the boat so fundamentally and you managed to make it 20 years without seeing what was a like a necessary icon of our times, then I feel like there's no point there's no point trying to jump on board now. You're too late. Like I know you have seen it now, Britt, but I also am kind of like you you didn't need to do it to yourself. It's amazing and it was amazing 20 years ago, but you missed the boat. I would have gone my whole life, you know, without it if there wasn't a sequel. 100%. I never felt like I was missing out on anything by not seeing it for the last 20 years.

[00:27:29]I went and watched it. I watched it 2 days ago because I wanted to I I wanted to see what the hype was about for Devil's Prada 2. And you absolutely cannot watch a sequel without seeing the first one. So, I watched it. Have you seen it, Laura?

[00:27:40]>> Yeah, of course. Like a thousand times.

[00:27:42]>> Oh, okay. You're like, "Yeah, duh."

[00:27:44]>> Cuz I'm a normal human. Like the rest of Australia and the world has seen the first one. It's so interesting now that I get to watch it for the first time with a set of eyes from 2026 because I wonder how much you remember from it. There are so many things that are politically incorrect. There are so many things, statements, discussions, conversations that absolutely would not fly right now. Like I cannot believe the level of open fat shaming in the Devil's Where's Prada original was insane. I can't believe that they were making jokes about it, that the whole theme was around Anne Hathaway being too big and she was a size six. It's insane. And we wonder now, like we look back and we're like, why do women have so many body problems? That's why.

[00:28:30]>> It's interesting. I um I actually watched an interview with Anne Hathaway a little while ago and she was talking about how with the original, she really made a point that she didn't want any actresses or models quote unquote in the movie that were frighteningly slim. Like at the time it was like the height of kind of like skinny runway models and she didn't want anyone on there that perpetuated this idea of the heroine chic image.

[00:28:53]>> But as much as there may not have been anyone on there, the people who were normal size were deemed as being overweight. Do you know what I mean?

[00:28:58]Like it's crazy that even though you haven't cast someone who is so and it's, you know, toxically thin, I guess, and kind of subscribes to that culture, you still spoke about the culture in such a negative way. Anyway, I mean it is of its time and I think sometimes when you go back and watch movies like this, they do not age in the same way and they don't stand up to like today's perception around things like weight, around inclusivity. Like we have a very different lens in 2026. But the the key theme around the fact that her boyfriend broke up with her and her friends sort of disregarded her and threw her to the side and and put a lot of pressure on her for how much she has changed and she's not who she used to be and the relationship is different because she's not prioritizing her boyfriend and that's purely because she was prioritizing her career and the shame that was attached to that and she was only applauded when she gave up her career and gave up chasing those goals and I found it really that juxosition really interesting that her boyfriend put so much pressure on her being like, I don't even know you now. Like, you didn't care about work and fashion when we met and now you do. And I thought, wow, it's putting this real lens on the fact that we're not allowed to evolve in our career or evolve in things that we're interested in and who we are as a person. Because that's what the shame was about. The shame was about when I met you, you didn't care about feeling good or looking good or dressing well or or the kind of belt or jacket that you wear. and now that's all you care about.

[00:30:24]I don't want to be with you anymore. And it was this real, for me, this real moment of, wow, we've come a long way as women and what we're allowed to want for ourselves and what we're allowed to do and chase. It was it was really interesting to watch it so fresh for the first time.

[00:30:38]>> Yeah. And I can't wait to go and see it.

[00:30:40]But I think the thing that is different is that there was a real elitism around it. Like the narrative in the very first one was like this elitism around fashion and how it was like you were superficial if you were someone who chose or wanted to work within the fashion industry. And I guess that that's how they kind of created the divide between who she was and who she was turning into. You know, you're getting sucked into this vacuous world of fashion. The thing I find so interesting around Devil Wears Prada 1 and the sequel is when the very first movie came out in 2006, none of the big luxury fashion brands like your Chanels, your Gucci, like none of them actually wanted to get behind the movie. None of them had the the same brand association.

[00:31:20]Like there was a lot of reach out to all of these luxury labels and they were very tentative around whether or not they wanted to participate in the movie.

[00:31:28]And now not knowing how that was going to turn out or what the actual movie was going to be. But 20 years later, it's a completely different ballgame. There's been a complete cultural shift surrounding this and like there's very real life fashion institutions like Vogue magazine, like Chanel, like Gucci who have all kind of gotten around the movie and it's become such an iconic part of like our storytelling and of our time. And and I really think that the attitude shift towards it is what's so interesting. Like before it was kind of seen as like as the fashion industry, we are above this and now the fashion industry has completely embraced it as part of their own.

[00:32:02]>> Well, I guess because it wasn't proven.

[00:32:04]You don't want to throw yourself behind something that you don't know how it's going to go. You don't know what the themes are going to be. You don't know if it's going to be slammed and that's going to reflect on your brand. But now it was proven to be such a hit.

[00:32:14]>> I agree with what you're saying, but I also think that of the time in 2006, luxury brands wanted to remain as luxury brands. And I think the movie, it really wasn't aimed at that clientele. Like the movie was way more accessible. The movie was, I guess, people related more to Andy than what they did to the luxury side of the movie. And that accessibility, I think, is probably why luxury brands back in the day kind of distanced themselves from it. But I do think that there's been a shift. There's been a shift in the way people view fashion. There's been a shift in the way people view the accessibility of fashion. It's not as exclusive as it used to be. even the luxury brands aren't as exclusive as they used to be.

[00:32:53]And I do think that there is a little bit more of a peak behind the curtain.

[00:32:56]And so it's interesting to me that instead of pushing against this and the sequel of it that your luxury brands have completely embraced it, even if 20 years ago they thought it was beneath them. That's what I actually think. I don't I don't think it was about proving the model or I think like proving that there was going to be a good product because the actresses and the casting that were in this movie was already and always top-notch. I actually think it was like we want to distance to ourselves from something we think is below us. But now it's being embraced as a full institution.

[00:33:27]>> Well, because look at the level of marketing they get as well because the way that Hollywood PRs and markets a new movie now is so different to how it used to be. There's so much more spend behind it and it is sat as a luxury event whereas it never used to be. The last thing I think was really interesting watching it with this 2026 lens is the fact that it makes working in a toxic work workplace or having a toxic boss or a toxic environment. They make it seem almost aspirational and almost like it has to be a right of passage if you want to be successful in the workplace. if you want to be pushing for a promotion, if you want to be respected by your boss, it was a right of passage to be able to put up with the absolute torrent of abuse that she had to put up with in this film, which was like having things hurled at her, telling her she needs to lose weight, telling her she looks gross, calling her at 2, 3, 4:00 a.m., making her do the most wild things, but it was an expectation cuz that's just what you have to do. And I would love to know what the 20-year-old age group would think now if they were watching it because they're very much in the which they should be, but like the mental health days and the mental health walks and checking in and and an environment should be peaceful when you go to work, but they would be mortified to see that that's not just the way the film portrays it. It's also the way that the work environment used to be. Like it wasn't that far-fetched that people were in those kind of environments. I also I mean I wonder because look I have very little experience personally working or being within the world of luxury brands.

[00:34:57]Does Laura Burn not scream luxury brands to you? Shock. No. But I do know quite a few people who have worked within that industry whether they have worked as visual merchandisers, whether they worked as brand partners. Like I know people who have worked quite high up in the UK and in Europe across luxury brands who are now based in Australia.

[00:35:14]And I I actually think that it in some ways has very much reflected the work culture that that specifically lives within the fashion world. And I mean you see it play out in the movie, but you really do see it play out culturally as well. Like it's such an industry that for so long women in particular have wanted to break into whether it's within modeling, photography, whether it's in styling, editorial. It's such a competitive place and there's such a high expectation for output and high expectation for prestige that the culture can run rampant. And I know that this is secondary source information, but from what I have been told from people who have worked as visual merchandisers for some luxury companies, they really have had some of the most unchecked cultures in comparison to I guess like other places. And that's because there is such a churn and burn of expectation because people want to work there. I wonder whether we've moved that far. I'm sure that there's still people who are in their 20s or in their early sort of like, you know, progression in careers who still work in companies that have horrific horrific workplace culture and they're still subjected to that because, you know, to work your way up is kind of expected and you do feel like you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. I know what you're saying and I know it has changed a lot for a lot of people and we know what we will and we won't accept. But you have very little power when you're a junior if you kind of find yourself in one of these businesses that has a bad culture. The only power you have is to leave rather than kind of, you know, changing the system because that sort of change has to happen from top down. It doesn't happen from the juniors. That's for sure. Yeah. And of course it still happens. But I would think that it happens a bit more conspicuously. Maybe that's the difference. Maybe it's not so much like Miranda walking in and literally throwing a handbag that hits a girl in the head, you know, like it's it's not so much abuse like that. It's a bit more conspicuous and they're probably a bit more clever with the workplace bullying than they were then.

[00:37:01]So, the cast is obviously doing the press rounds at the moment and there was an interview that I saw. It's gone pretty viral. It's on Lad Bible and the core cast are sitting around a table and they're talking about their fashion faux pars like things that they don't think anybody should ever wear, things that they think should be taken out of the history of fashion. And I feel personally victimized because I wear two of these things every single day. And so do you, Laura. Have a listen to this.

[00:37:27]>> Crocs are the greatest fashion fauxar of modern times.

[00:37:31]>> Um, >> yeah, >> I think they are. Where's your green?

[00:37:35]>> Heinous things. You should never ever wear them. They look awful.

[00:37:39]>> But usually the people that wear them wear them with cargo pants.

[00:37:44]>> There are great fashion faux paws.

[00:37:46]>> Like the greatest fashion. And also I >> What do you think is a greater fauxar than a croc?

[00:37:53]>> Athleisure wear.

[00:37:55]>> Really? What?

[00:37:56]>> Wow.

[00:37:57]>> I think wearing athleisure to the opera.

[00:38:00]I think wearing athleisure to elevated surroundings to the opera.

[00:38:05]>> No. No. Well, by the way, they do make I have seen people make cute Crocs >> for three-year-olds.

[00:38:13]>> That seems wild to me because for me, and I would think for any normal person, what are you wearing to the airport for a 26-hour flight if it's not athleisure wear? Like, if you're not wearing tights, I would love to know what people are flying in cuz I wear leggings on every single flight. Like, that's what I wear. I think it's different though. I feel like wearing active wear as though it's out of like is a very Australian thing. But Britney, the part that I don't quite understand for you is you used to be the person who was so deeply against Crocs. Your level of hatred for Crocs and how much you swung around when they came in fashion. That infuriates me because I've been there since ground zero. I was there when Crocs were uncool and now I'm still there for Crocs and I will wear them every day. I have fleece line Crocs. I have normal Crocs. I have camo Crocs. I have fluuro Crocs. And you know what's even better than a pair of Crocs? A pair of lassos. What's a lasso?

[00:39:04]They're like the new Croc that people are wearing. You just wait everyone. You guys are all going to own a pair of lassos soon. So I will I I will put my hand up and say I absolutely used to slam you for your Crocs. Your when you started wearing Crocs, you had like a fluuro multicolored rainbow pair. I wasn't into it and I let you know that.

[00:39:24]Now, in my defense, I did get into Crocs before they were fashionable. I would like to think I helped make them fashionable.

[00:39:30]>> That's not true.

[00:39:31]>> But it's that Crocs are the kind of thing that it doesn't matter whether you like the look of them or not. Once that thing is on your foot, you cannot deny the power and chokeold it has over you because it's the most comfortable shoe and versatile and practical that you'll ever put on. So, I will say yes, I am a Crocgirl now. Okay. Okay. Well, look, we did ask the question, what is the one fashion item that you wish would just stay dead, never be resurrected?

[00:39:56]Obviously, we know fashion cyclical, comes around in circles. What is the thing that you wish would never ever come up? Or potentially what is currently in fashion that you wish would die? I would like to go first because there is something that has a strangle hold on some women at the moment. And as much as I love ugly footwear, like I love ironically ugly footwear, I'm kind of for it. Like I like a chunky shoe. I like a sandal that's kind of looks like a gladiator sandal. Like I love a pair of Crocs. I love a lasso. The [ __ ] tabby style footwear where people have the camel toe. Have you seen them? The camel toe small ballet flats.

[00:40:32]>> Mitch Chur.

[00:40:33]>> Yes. But no, but Mitch Chur has the ones that have like the the thick base to them. These are like a ballet flat style shoe that just has a slit for your toes.

[00:40:42]They even sell socks that are like specific socks, like tabby style socks that give you a a little crevice between your big toe and your other toes. I just I want it to be known that I don't understand it and I don't know if I'm ever going to understand the camel toe.

[00:40:57]Oh, I think it's probably one of the worst shoes I've ever seen in my life.

[00:41:00]Like, I can't stand it. Every time Mitch wears it, I'm like, you need to take that off your foot.

[00:41:05]>> But it's virally iconic now. It is so big. there like the tabby style, the tabby footwear is like it doesn't mean it's cool.

[00:41:13]>> I think it will be. This is okay. I'm I'm saying it here first. I feel as though that is one of those items that in 3 years time or two years time, we're going to come back and listen to this podcast episode and we're going to be like, "Oh yeah, you know, it took us a while to come around to it. It >> I'm never wearing it.

[00:41:29]>> It's like I'm never I'm that doesn't matter. I'm never wearing it."

[00:41:34]>> It's like the Birkenstocks. It's like the Crocs. I feel like back in the day you would have said the same thing about Crocs, but here we are. One thing that I would like to say I'm really proud of is that I don't follow fashion. I'm actually not very fashionable. I just wear what I'm comfortable in. Most of my clothes are five and 10 years old. Like I I find a staple that I love and I will wear that thing to absolute death. But I don't just wear something when it's fashionable. And I can say sometimes like the Croc sometimes it wins me over these these camel toe shoes. them on my feet. But >> you know the other shoe that I can't understand, and I don't know if you're going to agree with me on this, I do not think controversially that you should be wearing UGG boots outside the house as shoes. I unless you're like in a very snowy location, UGG boots are an inside shoe. Like UGG boots for me are at home.

[00:42:27]I know that they're starting to make some cool ones that look a bit more shoy that have the wool inside. That's okay.

[00:42:33]But like an old school Ugg boot shouldn't be worn to dinner in my I mean people might come for me but it's a no.

[00:42:39]>> I don't think anyone's going to come for you for that. I think that that was very early 2000s when we all first started going out to nightclubs. I remember it was like the Jessica Simpsons of the worlds were wearing Ugg boots and tiny denim skirts. And at the time it was a vibe. It's not a vibe anymore. And also my arch support couldn't handle it.

[00:42:56]Claire, our employee wears them still.

[00:42:59]Claire, you're being cancelled.

[00:43:02]Okay. I I did do the call out for you guys. There was a few things that came in which I I feel like all of us can relate to. Do you guys remember the Galaxy leggings from back in like the early 2000s?

[00:43:13]The Galaxy leggings. Okay. They were from a brand called Black Milk. There was also another brand called We Are Handsome. They were digitally printed leggings that had like purple galaxies all over them. And I don't know why, but I was absolutely obsessed with mine.

[00:43:29]They were like part of my core identity when I was like maybe 21 years old. That and an oversized black shirt was all about the Galaxy leggings. I'm from small town. I was from Port McQuary.

[00:43:41]That fashion did not make it up there.

[00:43:43]And we did not have those stores. We only had Supra. So I wasn't a Galaxy leggings girl. Oh, Black Milk was an online store. It was like one of the very first big online. We didn't have the internet in Port McQuary. It was It was a big online retailer. The strangle hole the Galaxy leggings had on me uh is not okay. Okay, another one was scrunch seam bums. Anything that has a scrunch seam straight up the butt crack is an out. They're back in.

[00:44:08]>> Yeah, they shouldn't be. They should not be. That's the problem. They should go.

[00:44:12]>> They make your butt look really good, though. I'm not mad about that. I'm not mad about the scrunch.

[00:44:16]>> I think it depends on what your bum looks like to start with, but I don't need to have a seam that looks like my [ __ ] is eating my pants. It doesn't do anything flattering for me. I'm happy for you that it does for you, Brit, not for me. Um, the skirt over pants trend.

[00:44:29]What happened there? Why did we all oblige to that one?

[00:44:33]>> I did oblige to that, but that was also on my list was um, did you do fishnetss under a skirt?

[00:44:38]>> I'm not against a fishnet. Fishnetss are fine. I feel like fishnetss will come back as well.

[00:44:44]>> I think that they will come back. That's my point. I don't want them to. I'm like that needs to Fishnetss for me are like 5 years old jazz ballet dancing. Like I don't think that they should be brought back as a mainstream item.

[00:44:55]>> The fishnetss with a pair of Doc Martens were pretty much my entire 1920-year-old life as well if it wasn't Galaxy leggings. The other one. Okay. Do you guys remember the tattoo? The black tattoo necklace which was like the plastic expandable necklace that we all lived in.

[00:45:11]>> [ __ ] yeah.

[00:45:12]>> The choker.

[00:45:12]>> That was the choker.

[00:45:13]>> It was a choker.

[00:45:14]>> What happened to that? Where did that come from? Where did it go? Is it ever coming back? Who knows?

[00:45:19]>> And you could get a matching bracelet as well. And then I used to double them up.

[00:45:23]So I used to have one of those chokers and then above it I would have a black piece of string that had like some kind of pendant on it too. I like full goth era.

[00:45:33]>> So I feel like it came to a point where like people would wear that black choker and then they would hang a little pendant on the front of it. Like it was like if you really wanted to style your neck piece it was like that tiny little collapsible bit of plastic with a weird donte pendant on the front. The other one, which I don't know if anyone got as into these as what I did, but when this came through on my Insta, I was like, "Oh my [ __ ] god, never come back."

[00:45:56]You know the little bolero cardigans, the tiny little like cap sleeve cardigans that didn't actually keep you warm. They were a short cardigan at the back. They were a cropped bolero and they just covered your arms, but they were only half a cardigan. So your entire back was out, but they just you put your arms in them and it covered the top part of your shoulders. No. Cool.

[00:46:15]Just me. That that was fashion, baby. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. Add that to the [ __ ] what were they? Add that to the astronaut pants and your back hair and you were killing it.

[00:46:26]>> Well, as much as everyone has been completely fing over the Devil Wears Prada 2 and the publicity tour that has been kind of unfolding in the last couple of weeks around this, there has been something that has gotten Emily Blunt into a bit of hot water. And now I don't know whether this is just the internet doing what the internet does and blowing something out of proportion or whether it was a completely tonedeaf moment from Emily. What happened was um there's a YouTube interview that's going around with bches. B T C H E S bes. I don't even know if I'm saying that right, but basically they were asking Emily around like what is the advice that she would give to women out there who are hating their jobs. Have a listen to this.

[00:47:09]Do you have any tips for girls who are hating their jobs right now?

[00:47:12]>> Wait. No. Um, look, I think just find something that you deeply want to do.

[00:47:17]Even if you're earning no money, as long as you love it, you'll be happy.

[00:47:21]>> Now, as you can imagine, this has sparked quite the debate online. A lot of people are saying that Emily is completely out of touch, that it is a very privileged position to take to give the advice of simply quitting your job or doing a job for the love of it, not for the money of it. I felt a few ways when I listened to this because I I really don't know what is the right way to answer these types of questions. I think for so long we've been told chase your dreams. You can be anything that you want to be in life. You know, you can be whoever it is that you want to be. You can start fresh. You can have a career change. But we also know that there comes a point in life where priorities do have to shift because responsibilities and pragmatism has to come into play as well.

[00:48:02]>> Look, we're in a cost of living crisis.

[00:48:04]I think this was absolutely terrible and dangerous advice and a lot of people are saying, "Oh, is the internet blowing it out of proportion? Is it really that bad what she said?" I think it is. Yeah. I think it's irresponsible and a little bit ignorant. And I really like Emily Blunt, but she's worth $80 million thereabouts. She can quit and do whatever she wants to do. Most people right now absolutely cannot walk away from their income because they don't feel like it fills their cup anymore. We would all love to be able to do that, but we've always said here on the podcast, Laura, like I particularly am a very big advocate of chasing your dreams, right? But you have to be pragmatic when you're chasing your dreams and you have to be making sure that you can still support your lifestyle and not even your lifestyle, but just the basic cost of living. If we could all be like, "Hey, [ __ ] I hate my job. I'm going to tap out for a while and go do my passion of painting the ocean. That sounds beautiful and romantic, but it's not pragmatic because it's the way she says it. Like, it's so obvious and it's such a throwaway comment. Like, it's her demeanor in the way she presents her answer. It's like, oh yeah, like go chase your dreams is like, duh. Like, if you're not happy, quit. Like, it's the most obvious answer in the world. Like, all of us have never thought, oh my god, I hate my job. Why am I still here? It just felt like a little bit dumbed down for me and I I just didn't it rubbed me the wrong way and I understand why the internet's upset because we are in the biggest highest cost of living crisis that we have ever been in. I think as well though like when I first saw it and I saw the internet doing what the internet does and that is is to be outraged by it. I I did have the moment where I was like is this an overreaction to a prompted question that wasn't well thought out? Like I don't think that Emily went in there with a question list and going, "Okay, this is the answer I'm going to give." That's a really well thought out and considered answer. I think she got asked a question, she was on the spot, and she gave an answer. And that answer was incredibly out of touch coming from a woman whose net worth is $80 million.

[00:50:06]>> But then I sat with it a little bit and I was like, why did people have such a severe reaction? And why are in particular its women so angry about this I guess very nonchalant and very outofouch comment um that could have just kind of been swept under that you know it could have gone without anyone really noticing it but it has kicked up quite the storm and I think it's because realistically and I I would love to know everyone's perspective who's listening to this when you think about how many dreams that you had in life that you actually buried because the realities of life meant that you weren't able to pursue them. So to hear someone say, "Oh, you should just do it for no money." It's, as you said, Brit, like it's such an oversimplified thing and it hits so many people because so many of us had dreams that we weren't able to pursue because financially it was just completely unviable. And I know like even for us, like I feel so grateful that we get to do this podcast. I feel so [ __ ] grateful that I have Tony May. But I'm also very realistic that we, as much as so much of this has come from hard work, a lot of it came from a really [ __ ] good leg up that a lot of people don't get, right? Like we went and did a reality TV show that millions of people watched and we, you know, it gave us a platform and a leg up that is not like a normal, I guess, entry point.

[00:51:22]Even us, like that's what we we received. And I say that because, you know, prior to all of this life and all of these sort of, I guess, things that we've been able to do and and have, my original thing when I left university and I was like, this is what I'm going to do with myself, like I wanted to be an artist. Like I was a painting and printmaking and selling in art galleries and like that's what I did for 3 years when I left university. Like that was my goal. And then that became such a pipe dream. and I had to get a real job, which is why I went into graphic design because there simply wasn't enough money selling through galleries and selling through curatorships and all that sort of stuff. I was like, it wasn't a feasible, sustainable income for me. And so, even when I was unpacking this, I was like, well, there's a dream that I buried that I wasn't able to do and that I wasn't going to just keep doing for no money and for the love of it because that's an unsustainable thing for me to do in my life. And then all the other things kind of fell into place that actually made me money. And so I do want to ask the question I guess like for anyone who has been in this position where they've had a big dream or they've had a big goal and it hasn't quite worked out the way in which they hoped.

[00:52:26]I would love to know why. You know I mean you can let us know jump onto our life uncut discussion group but I do think that there's a bigger question here around what are the things that you had to let go of simply because maybe you were in a financial bind maybe motherhood hit you earlier than you expected. Maybe you were trying to juggle family stuff alongside illness or grief or death like what that looked like. And I think that that's why people were so angry by this because it hit them in a place where they were like that is so obvious but it is not a reality for so many of us who don't have the support.

[00:52:57]>> Yeah. And I agree with everything you said but what I would say on top of that is and maybe this is why I feel differently about the advice she gave compared to the advice we give for example. And you say we got a leg up which we absolutely did. We were very fortunate to be given a platform off of the back of the Bachelor, which I mean, everybody that goes on a reality TV show has a platform. It's up to you with what you are able to do with it, what you want to do with it, what you can do with it. You and I worked so hard in this for years before we made any money. We locked into this because it was a dream and a passion, but we couldn't quit our other jobs. We were chasing our dream while simultaneously working our asses off in our other jobs. I worked for years in the hospital as a radiographer before I was able to give that up. If I had have followed Emily's advice of being like, I'm going to go chase my dreams. I'd be broke with no house. I'd have no food. I'd have nothing. Like, you just simply can't do it. And I think that is what is upsetting people is that the advice she gave somebody like Emily is inspirational. She is aspirational.

[00:54:02]She's somebody that a lot of people look up to. So when you get advice from her like that that just isn't actually tangible and it's not something that anybody can take and put into practice that is what gets people upset because they thought cool thanks Sherlock no [ __ ] like if I could have just done that I would have and when I think like I a dream that I I haven't given up I'm still trying but I was never able to properly pursue was acting like you guys all know I went to acting school in my 20ies that's what I really wanted to do when you say you wanted to be an artist.

[00:54:34]I wanted to be an actress from as young as I can remember. 5 years old, I was at drama school and it's all I could ever see. But we all know that it's what 1% of people can make it in that industry.

[00:54:46]And so if I had have just only ever chased that, probably the same thing. I would probably still not have a home.

[00:54:52]And maybe you get little jobs here and there, but it's not enough to sustain you. So, the really practical advice I think that would make people probably less angry is that you should always chase your dreams if you can, but you have to be smart enough to be able to do that while still earning an income and looking after your family and paying your bills and paying your car rejo and keeping a roof over your head. You know, it's not it's just not strong advice to say, "Yeah, [ __ ] who." She literally says, "Who cares if you make no money?"

[00:55:23]And I think it's just that one line that has absolutely sent people. I think the summation of this really is that following your passion is a privilege.

[00:55:32]Like that is a privilege that not everyone will have the possibility of doing in this life. And I mean that because some people have far greater obligations. They have far greater responsibilities. If you are a single mom, you know, and responsible for for the entire running of your household, like you do not have the same abilities to follow your passion as a 20-year-old untied down woman or man. You know what I mean? But also like that disproportionately affects women because disproportionately women are the ones who are taking care of kids and who are managing entire households. Like so I do think that that's why the reaction from women have been so it's been so severe.

[00:56:10]The other part of this is, and it's very specific to creative industries, we are constantly told in creative industries to work for free. We are constantly told that in order to be able to get experience, to get a leg up, to be able to like carve a path for ourselves that we should offer our services for free.

[00:56:26]And now this extends to all creative industries. It doesn't matter whether you're a photographer, whether you're a model, whether you're a graphic designer, whether you're a website designer, whatever it is. Like if you are starting out and you're a junior, you're expected to put in hours for free in order to get trained or to get be able to get your portfolio together. But even as you move into, I guess, being a midweight or a more senior designer, the problem is is the nature of the industry, there is always someone who is willing to undercut you to do it for free simply to get the experience and the exposure. And that's created this entitlement I think in so many creative industries that people expect product for free or they expect time for free because there are people who are willing to do it. And so I think you know it's great if someone is able to do that in their industry. It's great if someone's able to give some time towards a project if they're building their experience but it's not great when that is the expectation. It's interesting you say that because I can immediately think of so many times that I have heard this from other people in the industry tell me about it and it's also happened to me in terms of Laura and I have been asked to do things before for different jobs for different clients and different people separately and together and the expectation of hey like we can't actually pay you for the job because someone else will do it for free.

[00:57:50]>> Yeah. Or do it for the exposure.

[00:57:52]>> Yeah. And do you know what the problem is? The problem is sometimes it is a great opportunity that you actually really want and so you end up doing it because you're like well if it's not me for free it's somebody else for free and that could bring another opportunity and you end up doing it and then it's just this vicious cycle because the only way the cycle ends is if people start saying no to doing it for free but even the other day before I left I was in a room with a stylist and she was sort of complaining a little bit. She's like I actually can't believe this. And I said what? and she's like, "I've had two people reach out to me this week to style them for these really big events." And styling, maybe a lot of people don't think about it a lot, right? You're like, "Oh, you find a dress and you put on stylists, a good stylist will put a lot of time and energy and effort into finding, sourcing, outreaching, bringing it in, tailoring, like there's a lot of effort that goes into it." And both times she was like, "Yeah, no worries." And she sent her price back, her quote back, and they said, "Oh, sorry. I thought you'd just do it for free. like I'm not looking to pay. And that entitlement and expectation that somebody would do that for free because they get exposure because somebody tags them and says styled by this girl was like that's not paying my bills. Like you're asking me to do a week's worth of work at least cuz that's how much time and effort it is for nothing. And and it's just this strange entitlement like that. Like anything that I have ever done, any hair and makeup I've ever done for any red carpet event, I can tell you I pay them.

[00:59:17]Of course, I have never gone and gotten anything for free for something like that. If I am getting and using somebody's time, they are absolutely being paid. And I just think it's insane that people are calling people to do, hey, can you do a week's worth of work for me for nothing? I mean, it's not just styling. It's it's it's so many industries in the creative field. Oh, totally. Don't get me wrong, like, it's fine to get quotes on something and to realize that something is outside your budget. Like, that is okay. I actually don't have an issue with that. It's a problem if you go in with the expectation that it's going to be for free for starters like or it's going to be a like for like and I'm not in by any means defending influencers but like I they get so much for free that they've been conditioned in a way that's not normal. I also think I think as an industry as a whole that everyone expects free things from creative people. Everyone expects that people will lower their rate for the exposure and I think that that has become a precedent of the industry of which has been created and even Emily Blunt talking about this it perpetuates once again that you should work for free in order to gain experience and I am in two minds about it because you shouldn't have to pay top price for someone who doesn't have any experience in something and if you are really really really keen to garner experience you do a work placement or you do an apprenticeship like those things do have value and if an apprenticeship is actually a good one, you will get training in doing it.

[01:00:39]Like that is all has validity and that's not what this isn't about. What this is about is people who are experienced in their fields being expected to do things for free or to lower their pricings for fear of being priced out by someone who is willing to do it for free because that's become the expectation. And I know that this is kind of a little bit of a tangent, but I do think that that's why people get so frustrated within these industries because it's become so normal. Look, at the end of the day, do I think Emily Blunt is a bad person that intentionally came to give abhorrent advice? No. No, I don't think she overthought it. I think the question probably came out of nowhere. And maybe if it was a more long- form interview, she might have given a stronger piece of advice or she may have been able to extend the go after what you want even if you don't earn money. I'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt, but I can 100% understand why the internet has gotten a little bit offside off the back of this advice. Yeah. And I think that that's important to kind of note like on like a quick rapidfire question situation like she's been put in, there is no nuance to the response. And I and I don't think it was well thought out.

[01:01:45]But it is an interesting thought starter around who has the privilege to pursue their dreams and who doesn't and where is the middle ground to that and what does that look like for so many people.

[01:01:55]I guess like what I would love to know is like from your perspective, anyone who's listening to this, where have you landed on the scale of being able to pursue what it was that you like thought you were going to be or thought you were going to have in life, do you have a small business? Are you still in the struggle? Are you still in the hustle?

[01:02:11]Have you like found a compromise that's allowed you to have, I guess, the side hustle alongside a normal fulfilling job? What does that look like for you?

[01:02:20]Because there's so many variations of it. And I think it'd be really nice to hear from the like you guys the lifers as to around like what has been your middle ground on this.

[01:02:28]>> The interesting thing off the back of that is Laura and I think that this is the evidence we need in order to change your career is that most women change career in their early 40s. That is because that's when they're going after their dreams and starting their business because that's when financially they have allowed themselves to get to a point where they can in fact go and chase a dream because they've worked for 20 years saving money and getting themselves to a spot where they can then go and chase whatever it is that they've been thinking about and their passions for the last 10 or 15 years. And I think that that's a really nice place to leave this conversation. Often as women, we think that when you need to go after a dream or a career, it has to be really young. You think that when you hit your 30s and 40s that you're stuck in what you've always known. But knowing that piece of information that the majority of women will change what they're doing at the age of 40, I think is really cool and it's really something that we can sit in ourselves and say, "Hey, you know what? Maybe I don't have to necessarily be stuck doing a job that I hate."

[01:03:29]>> Do you know what that that's linked to though as well? It's linked to not only just is it pmenopause and all those sorts of things. So many women have a change of career or a change of their direction once they've had kids because the realities and the I guess the expectations of a a normal 9 to 5 work don't fit with what they want for their lives anymore. And >> for so long motherhood felt like it was the death of career. But I know for so many women it is actually the start of something that feels more creative and they're able to take I guess a different route. Not everyone once again it does pair back to this conversation around privilege. But for a lot of women that is a time in life where career direction potentially chasing dreams or even starting their own businesses becomes something that they can refocus their lens on. All right, it is time for our suck and our sweet, our highlight and our low light of each and every week.

[01:04:21]Britney, what is your suck? Oh my god.

[01:04:24]My suck is besides my burnt vagina, my suck is I swear every single month and every year I get older, my periods get so much worse. Do you know to the point I always thought I googled yesterday, am I in per menopause? That's what I literally Googled. I was like, it's just changing and it's more intense and I'm like I'm in so much pain and I thought do you know what the problem is? The problem is the symptoms of like early menopause, perry menopause are so broad that like you can always make it you.

[01:04:54]You're like, "Yeah, I think that I am more tired. I think that I am more irritable. I think that I am my periods are heavier and a bit more irregular."

[01:05:01]You know what I mean? Like if you really wanted to, you could convince yourself.

[01:05:05]So my suck this week is um Claude said I'm impatable.

[01:05:12]No, my my suck is just like how bad my periods are. And [ __ ] they come around quick, don't they? Every every 3 weeks they're back. I've only just started tracking my everything, right? Like I got an Aura ring. That's going to be a conversation for another day cuz I think I'm aura ring obsessed. But it's the the first time in 40 years of life that I've started tracking my menstrual cycle. And I'm [ __ ] shocked by how quick it comes. Every week, every month, I'm like, "What? Again? We're here? I don't understand." Yeah, I know that that sounds like the most ridiculous and benign thing that's ever been said on a podcast, but it constantly surprises me how quickly my period comes back. What is your What is your sweet >> I know it does. My sweet this week is if you follow me on socials, you'll know.

[01:05:52]But I have just been Ben and I had a couple of days off together and I just I know I'm in Italy and everyone knows Italy is such a beautiful country, but I am gobsmacked at how stunning where Ben lives is. We went to like just for lunch for the day.

[01:06:08]Went to the most beautiful town that I may have ever seen. Like it was just so stunning and it's like a 45minute drive away. It's and I just had this moment.

[01:06:18]It's actually funny, but I had this moment where I was like, I just can't believe I live here. Like I had a a really wholesome moment where I just thought like what what's happening right now? And so just like the fact that I'm getting to spend more time with Ben, obviously that's going to be my suite for the foreseeable future, but just I don't know. No, I was just at the most I I I don't want to rub it into anyone, but I was at the most beautiful Italian beach >> eating like an Italian pasta.

[01:06:40]>> No, I have seen your stories every day, and don't worry, you're rubbing in it enough. I I even said to Matt, I was like, I do think that we will all need to go to Italy on a life uncut work trip because it's taxdeductible. Bring the kids.

[01:06:53]>> We can put them to work.

[01:06:54]>> Don't bring the kids. Bring the snail.

[01:06:57][ __ ] pack slimy. We're going. The team are all outside pretty much having a dance party. So, I do think that an Italian life uncut troop is in order.

[01:07:06]Um, okay. Well, look, my suck for the week is maybe that it's my kid's going to end up with menitis from a [ __ ] snail in a terrarium. Sorry, >> a snail in an atrium. No, my actual suck for the week, and it's something that I would like to talk about on another episode, so I'm not going to get into it deep now, but my kids have hit a stage where they're playing each parent off against each other. So, Marley and Lola, it's like they have figured out that if they don't get what they want from mom, they have to go and ask dad. and it's only something that I've really kind of noticed in them. However, it is dividing Matt and I. And so, I would love to know everyone's opinion on this. So, I'm going to save that for next week. My sweet for the week is obviously it was that we had a Hollywood star come into our Bond store and spend a lot of money.

[01:07:50]That made me very excited. However, my other sweet for the week is is that I had a really nice Saturday. We had a babysitter on Saturday. We went to a we like we like double booked social event.

[01:08:02]So we went to a friend's 40th birthday and then we ended up out at dinner with Ness and Ness's wife Jess and friends and it was just like a really [ __ ] awesome afternoon of like filling the cup up with friends stuff. And I feel like I haven't done that a lot recently.

[01:08:16]I do feel like it's been a hell of a lot of work, a hell of a lot of kids and a hell of a lot of Matt and nothing else of my husband. And I'm seeing a lot of my husband >> and a lot of husband time and children time and I just kind of forgot like how much I've missed spending time with my friends. So it was a really really nice afternoon. That was like that was the best of the best. And then also Sydney Sweeney was a really nice little addition.

[01:08:38]>> That is it from us. If you um want to jump in on the conversation, you can go and follow us at Life Uncut Discussion Group. That's where all of the juicy stuff goes down. If you have any Ask Uncuts, people post them in there anonymously. And you can also watch all of the videos on YouTube.

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