This discussion provides a vital defense of cultural sovereignty by rejecting pseudo-historical attempts to rewrite Indigenous identity through external religious frameworks. It correctly prioritizes authentic ancestral heritage over modern ideological appropriation.
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Bk & Mr. PHIL FOX: Will A real native American please stand up!
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That's crazy. I'm looking like, is the video playing? But it don't look like it's playing. Hey family, we are live and I wasn't ready for it. So, let me do this and share the link. Hold tight, my brothers.
>> I don't got no friends. I don't got no friends, you know what I mean? I got supporters, people on my side and people on the other side.
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Right. All right. Welcome to Paradigm Shift TV 314. This is your brother, the infamous DMG.
And I'mma cut straight to the chase.
I I I just heard the greatest nickname for a tag team that I've ever heard. And I'mma let my brother Phil Fox repeat it.
So my brother, please reintroduce yourself to the Paradigm Shift TV 314 audience.
Uh my name is uh Mr. Phil Fox. Uh but my name uh that was given to me by my grandfather is uh defeats the enemy Maadesh.
I'm coming to you live from the lands of actually my homelands, the Mandan, the Hiata, and the Rickarra people. Uh, not of the the the uh what what did they call me the other night, BK?
>> $5 Indian.
>> The $5 Indian uh the the uh the pur the prairie dog. Uh whatever. No, no, no, no. From the Mandan, the Hata, and the Rick people. I am the second half of who is now known as the Shaana Twins with me and my brother BK apologist.
>> Oh man, >> that is the greatest nick. Look. Hey BK man, y'all might have to sign up for World View Wars Debate League as a tandem in the tandem division. Man, I've been trying to kick that off, man. Y'all could be the the debate equivalent to the LOD.
[laughter] Don't know who hulk and who animal.
>> Hulk animal.
>> BK apologist the dawn of urban apologetics.
Please reintroduce yourself to the paradigm shift TV 314 audience.
>> Yeah. What's going on part of people?
The place to be. I go by the name of the BK apologist transmitting all the way live. New York is the city. Brooklyn is the burl. What's good? What's pop? We here. the the notorious >> thetorious apologist. I mean, you know, Brooklyn, man. Brooklyn. I'm a I'm a old school hip hop guy.
>> Right. Right. Right. Right.
>> That being said, what are you brothers about to tear apart and dismember?
Uh, ideologically, of course.
>> Of course. Of course.
>> Of course.
>> Um, well, I guess I'll start for a minute.
>> Oh, yeah. Always, always. So, and and I'll throw it real quick to Phil. So, you know, I'm a subscriber to the Paradigm Shift channel. So, you know, I get an alert. You know, of course, of course. Come on. You already know.
>> And uh you know, so I saw that was on your channel and they were doing a presentation on the history of Mound City. And of course beyond beyond that, you know, they were speaking about one of their one of their talking points that not only ISUPK, but most one west derivatives um speak on how the Native American is a Israelite. So of course, me being who I am, you know, I'm like, "Hey, I think uh Brother Cadesh would love to hear what these guys are expounding upon." and you know he went onto the chat and um they said some dispariting things about Mahagadesh. So um you know so we we're here to kind of set the record straight um some of the things that was said in this video. So that's just on you bro.
>> Yeah. So yeah, I mean I was listening in to the to the last panel, you know what I mean?
And um and there was some things I I could rock with, you know what I mean? I'm not here to try to discourage anybody from believing what they want to believe, you know what I mean? But the the problem that I have is is I'm fine if you want to if you want to be a brew, if you want to be an Israelite, you want to be a Hebrew, yo, that's on you. That's cool.
I don't have no problems with that. But what I do have a problem with is when some of these Israelite groups, just like my my brother BK said, is they don't just simply, you know, make the suggestion or they don't uh just simply imply.
They do it emphatically and even to the point where they are trying to go to different indigenous uh uh activities and events and they've even uh gone to uh some of our communities and tried to propagate this lie that and and also uh they're they're making some really grand assumptions thinking that we don't know who we are as a people when uh and and and also further they're trying to then weaponize our history, the the the reality in which that we continue to live in as indigenous people, the the racism and the the atrocities and the historicity of the things that still impact my community today.
Today, right now, I have elders in my community who still are impacted and who are struggling through life because of the boarding school system. And they're trying to use that to stand up and propagate and further push this lie that indigenous people are Israelites when we have plenty of proof. And we us indigenous people are saying no we are not because we have our own culture. We have our own life ways. We have our own culture ways. We have our own language.
We have our own teachings. We have all of this stuff. But yet, ISUPK knows better than I do.
>> I live this. Y'all can just read about it.
>> I live it. I am it.
But yet they're going to try to come and they're going to the the only answer they have for me and they think they slick is when they and I I know when they run out of answers because their default and the thing that they fall back on is oh well this guy must be a $5 Indian. Oh, yep. Yep. He's a $5 Indian cuz y'all can't touch the things that I'm saying because y'all don't know. And we're gonna show your ignorance tonight.
>> And that goes for the Abos, too.
[laughter] Uh >> oh.
Hey. Um >> Phil's not shy, by the way. Phil's not shy. I don't know if people knew that.
Phil's not shy.
>> Whose idea was it for this guy to come on here starting this troll?
>> You DM. [laughter] You've been asking for a long time, man.
Here it is. This is what you wanted.
That was rhetorical. Okay. Okay.
[laughter] >> And is I'mma let let y'all have it. I'mma mute out. I'mma step away and >> Okay.
>> My bad. I hit my mute prematurely. I'll be right back.
>> All right.
So, like even Jose even Jose is with you, Phil. He said get them elbows, too.
That's great. All right, so we're going to look through that video. We got a couple clips and we're going to give some commentary and um cuz it's not just the whole Native American life. That's a lot of things they say that's just not correct on various topics.
>> So with that being said, let me share my screen >> and let's get to it.
>> Hop into it.
[snorts] Shout out to Detroit.
Shout out to fellow Shenana member Michelle Turn.
>> All right, let let me play it again because Phil's talking over here.
>> Uh, it's not even showing on my end, bro.
>> No, >> no, no. DMG's gota let us >> DMG, man. You got to you got to you got to share my screen, bro. [laughter] You can't leave, man.
>> Phil talking over here.
>> Yeah, he's not sharing it yet, bro. Ah, >> yo, D, man.
Yo, [laughter] >> I was stepping away. He left.
>> He left. So, um well, you know what?
While while we're waiting for for DMG to come back, um even though this is not on the video, uh we know that, you know, they make various claims to try to back up this this talking points about um Phil being, you know, an Israelite. And um one of the things that has been used by different Israelite groups, specifically IUIC, >> is the this this blood pack and they showed this drawing and this drawing is supposed to be a uh a primary source to show that the natives are Israelites. Um Phil, I was wondering if you could share a little bit of Ah, there we go.
>> Ah, there we go.
>> There we go. Yeah, D, you got to stay put, man. You got to give me the so I can share. All right. So, we we'll get to that story later.
>> That's That's what I said when uh I guess I accidentally muted myself. I had to go pay a water bill. [snorts] >> Ah, understand. Understand. All right.
So, here we go.
>> Let's see if I can get a better picture real quick.
>> Basically, Earth pyramid. And that's how you know we we are those same people that built those pyramids over there in Egypt.
because you have more pyramids over here in America than over there over there in Africa.
>> So, we're gonna stop right there.
Actually, we're going to stop right there and I'm going to share my other screen.
So, G these gentlemen are saying >> your screen's not up. Oh, there we go.
Now it's going >> right. They're saying that and that's how you know those same people that built those pyramids over there in Egypt. So they're claiming that the Israelites who they claim to be built the pyramids. There's a problem with that. When we look at Lester uh grave ancient Israel says here that old kingdom covered dynasties 3-6 2700 to 2150 B.CE CE during which time most of the pyramids were built right most of these pyramids were built during the old kingdom and when we look at Joseph in Egypt by Charles Alang PhD he says mainline contemporary scholarship and the Bible's own chronology are in accord and dating Joseph sometime between 2000 and 1600 BC.
This time frame includes two important periods of Egypt's history. The middle kingdom and the second intermediate period. So the pyramids were built in the old kingdom. Joseph doesn't come in until the middle kingdom. Now this is not saying that the Israelites or those who would become Israel did not have the technology to make pyramids.
That's not the point. The point is by the time Joseph and his family come into Egypt, the pyramids was a foregone conclusion.
So the Israelites did not build the pyramids.
So but they did build stuff, right? It's Exodus 1:1. So the Egyptians assigned task masters over the Israelites to oppress them with forced labor. They built Pon and Ramsy's as supply cities for Pharaoh. So again, it wasn't that they weren't enslaved. They were and they were oppressed with forced labor, but not for the pyramids. It was Pitham and Ramsy's that they built.
In fact, and this is from um Jonathan Shaw, the pyramids now drawing on diverse strands of evidence from geological history to analysis of living arrangements, bread makingaking technology, and animal remains. Egyptologist Mark Leonard, an associate of Harvard Seemetic Museum, is beginning to fashion an answer. He has found the city of the pyramid builders.
They were not slaves.
So, not only was Joseph too late to build the pyramids, the people that built the pyramids warned slaves anyway.
All right. Um, the surprises were were just beginning. Funnel analyst Richard Reading of the University of Michigan Museum of Natural History identified tremendous quantities of cattle, sheep, and goat bone. enough to feed several thousand people even if they ate meat every day. Lener adds reading, who has worked at archeological sites all over the Middle East, was astounded by the amount of cattle bone he was finding, said Lener. He could identify much of it as young, under two years of age, and it tended to be male. Here was evidence of many people, presumably not slaves or common laborers, but skilled workers feasting on prime beef, the best meat available.
So, not only did Israel did not build the pyramids, the people that did were not slaves anyway.
All right. So, uh, Phil, I don't know if you want to say anything before we get to the next clip. No, >> for the record, BK, you you're not saying this to say Israelites weren't slaves in Egypt. You just simply saying >> Well, I I Yeah, I showed that they were >> Yeah, >> I showed that they were they were oppressed and they built Pitham and Ramsey's.
>> Yeah. I mean, the the point is, right, what we're showing some of this is this is supposed to be the teacher that's teaching, >> right? He's supposed to be one of the high up I don't know what his rank is according to to ISUPK >> officer I believe.
>> Yeah. So he's Yeah. He's some kind of officer but but again he is speaking untruths and loosely.
And so BK is just shouting out the obvious because you know when we're up here like BK myself any other urban apologists that are up here like we are vetting our sources. We're ensuring and making sure that we are prepared for these types of things. When we're presenting information, we are sourced up. We're not just out here at the top of, you know, off the top of the dome, you know, whatever, whatever. Yeah, there's some stuff we can do that on, but we are careful and also we have respect enough for God to make sure that we are not misrepresenting him or the information.
>> Right? So again, I and I showed Exodus 111 where they were oppressed and they were building stuff. All I'm saying is they didn't build the pyramids. They didn't build the pyramids. So um BMG, you can share my screen so I get to the next one.
>> All right, here we go.
>> All kind of sickness and diseases and it and it plagued the American Indians, you know, plagued them.
They should have built a wall for them when they came.
>> All right.
>> Yeah. All right. So, uh let's let's get second edges uh chapter 13 verse 40 for the sisters.
Let's let's uh share a little history on our people man. The tribe of Gad.
You have the tribe of Gad, which is the name American Indians.
And you have the tribe of Reuben. Who is the Siminals? The Siminals, you can find them today in in South Florida. You know, uh Florida has a college football team that's called the Florida Simos.
All right.
The Siminals is a tribe that the oppressor cannot conquer.
>> All right. So, um let me share this. So they said DMG if you can share my screen.
So they're saying that the tribe of Gad right which is the name of the American Indians and you have the tribe of Reuben who are seinals. So Phil can can you break down a little bit of the history of the seinals for us? Yeah. So the seminal people [clears throat] uh part of the information that he said is absolutely correct. Yeah. You know the seminals is known they are known as as the the the the tribe that was never conquered. Right.
But the information that I don't think he understands and knows is that most people have this misconception about the Trail of Tears, thinking that the Trail of Tears was just the Cherokee uh tribe that went on the Trail of Tears.
But actually there was a a mass uh a mass m well you can't even call it a migration a displacement of many different tribes one of those tribes being a larger portion of the seinal themselves.
So the seinal actually have a larger population that is in now what is called Indian territory in the now modern state of Oklahoma.
And there was just a remnant group of the Seol and the Muscogee and the Creek natives that were also uh conglomerate and mixed in as well with some of the freed slaves or escaped slaves which is where you get a lot of the black Indians which is which is where a lot of the Abos use as evidence to show that see look we've been here but you can't use that same information with a lot of the Plains tribes because we weren't part of the first contact groups. But again, so it shows the holes of their their information. They don't realize that there's a larger population of the seinal tribe that is in Oklahoma today.
And there's also the remnant tribe that was left in Florida. those who did not want to leave who ended up not not leaving uh Florida in the south and that is also the the the Florida seinal version of it. So how how how is this tribe that was one and one part that is in Oklahoma be the tribe of Gad and then the ones that stayed in Florida that were a conglomerate group with the Creek and the and many other tribes too. the Chickasaw, there was there was there was many other tribes that all came but are now known as the modern seinal and then the the the the black uh African uh slaves that were mixed in whether they were escaped or freed. Uh and then those are the ones that retreated into the Everglades systems.
So how are they Reuben and this other tribe of seinals? Somehow they're just they're just fit in with Gad. That that doesn't make sense.
So, so yeah, that's that's the breakdown and and go look it up. Use Google, fam.
Go ahead and go ahead and Wikipedia it up because we know that's what you're gonna do. [laughter] >> Uh DMG, can you uh Thank you. Appreciate it. All right, let's keep going.
And the southern kingdom came to America after the Assyrian captivity after they was free from that from those uh heathens and came to America. And we going to read about this. All right. A lot of people don't know Christopher Columbus how he found out about the Native American Indians being over here in in America. He read the Bible. He read 2 Exodus chapter 13 verse All right. So, you heard what the man said, right?
That Christopher Columbus Well, let let me show you.
>> He says that's that's in the Bible.
>> That's in the Bible, baby.
>> Right. So, they are saying that the way Christopher Columbus was able to make it here cuz he read second ed. Right. All right. So we have his writings, right? We have many of the writings that Columbus has the writing back and forth to various people. So this is a letter to Luis de Santaal from February 1493.
In his first letter announcing his discovery, Columbus wrote, "I have discovered a land in which there are many islands inhabited by people without number. It is the Indies. I have taken possession of them in the name of our most fortunate king and queen. Columbus here explicitly calls the land part of the Indies. There's no reference to Aratf Israelite tribes or the 10 lost tribes. In his letter, he makes no mention of this. All right. Journal of the first voyage as recorded by Pto de laas.
quote, "We reach an island which the natives call Gahani. I am certain that it is near the mainland of India."
Again, Columbus is thinking in terms of Asia, mainland of India. No mention of apocryphal lands of Azeroth.
Here's a letter to Ferdinand and Isabella, March 1493.
Quote, "The land is very fertile. There are spices and gold in abundance. I believe that this is the land of the Grand Khan as described by Marco Polo.
Columbus again is mapping discoveries to known Asian geography from medieval sources. Azareth is not mentioned anywhere.
>> He never makes any claim that he's getting his information from second ed.
ever think about it logically. Just think about that logically. So if if if he was using the Bible and he was like, "All right, so we're gonna use this coordinates and blah blah blah." And boom, he finds it. What would be the first thing he said? We found him, right?
>> We found it. We're on it. But nah, he's like, "We found [clears throat] India."
[snorts] >> He thought he was in Kubla land. That's crazy, >> right? [laughter] >> Yeah. Gang is calm, baby. He thought, "Shoot, we found it. We was in India, baby."
All right, DMG.
Let's keep on moving.
>> All our tribes down there, all our people that's down in down in South America and stuff, we going to read about how they got over here. The oppressor would tell you that they came from Siberia.
That's white supremacy. Anybody that teaches that, that is white supremacy.
You understand? I see a lot of black people, you know, on Tik Tok and and a lot of other social media platforms saying that. I heard about that when I was in school coming from the oppressor saying that the came from Siberia.
>> Stop it right there.
So they are claiming that if anyone teaches, >> right?
>> Um all our tribes that's down there, all our people that's down to South America and stuff, we're going to read about how they got over here. The oppressor would tell you, the oppressor would tell you that they came from Siberia. That's white supremacy. Anybody that teaches that is white supremacy. Phil, is this white supremacy, bro?
>> [laughter] >> Um, no, no, it's actually fact.
It's actually truth.
Uh, let me share my screen this time.
>> Yes, sir. Let's get it.
>> Let's see. Share screen.
Let's just do that one.
All right, [clears throat] let's do a little history lesson because I don't know if we're going to go over it and I don't know if you time stamped it, uh, BK, but um, these guys don't know how to read because they flash they flashed my tribes because I I I did flash my tribes, but what is customary amongst [clears throat] my people and many other tribes is that we don't just express our tribal uh, affiliation.
But we also tell who we are as far as our clansship.
And so they I told them I was part of the Mandan Hata and Rickarra people also known as the MHA nation or the three affiliated tribes which we are on the governmental books as.
Um but I did flash up my uh my clansship and then that's where they were like hey no because I am I am a member of the lowcap people. the low cap clan and I'm a child of the prairie chicken clan.
And so they're like, "Oh, look at chicken. Ain't no chicken clan. Ain't no chicken tribe." Blah, blah, blah blah blah. And they they went in and this is how we know. He's a $5 Indian. And cuz they didn't know. They don't know. So I am a part of the Mandan Hata and the Rick people. And I am also wearing my customary shirt when I'm talking about my people, the Mandan, Hata, and the Rick people. That is our flag. And here is our and we are we are established by the 1851 Fort Laramie treaty. Uh our lands were uh were established during that treaty. And then of course uh the government being what it is. And believe me fam, there's enough uh there's enough uh hatred for the things and the atrocities that the white man has done.
So, I do uh I'm not here capping for the white man. I'm not here trying to defend the white man. But what I am here to do is to ensure that you are not propagating and using my tribal history and my people to spread your lies.
There's enough there's enough there there's enough things for you to to grapple with and for you to take, but don't use my people.
So yes, I am part of the three affiliated tribes, Amandan and Rick Nation. I this is my my tribal affiliation to show you I am not $ five dollar Indian again. Look, there it is. See it? See it in the background. There it is. Just so you know.
So why is this relevant?
So let's do a little history lesson real quick. I'm just going to show you a little bit of my family.
Now I got gentlemen and I got some of these Hebrews probably don't even know who they daddy is.
But this is my many times greatgrandfather.
His name is Blackhawk. He was born in 1848 in like a fish hook village to my many times great-grandfather Chicken Can't Swim and his wife Brown Husk. And he was also married to Mink, who was a crow lady from the Crow tribe, who is now located in uh what is now known as Montana.
Uh and and um [clears throat] and so he had 19 children and Blackhawk and his family were part of the Hoska band of Herata.
Again, here's a history lesson, ISUPK.
Y'all never heard of the Hoska band, have you? You probably never even heard of the Herata people. Where are we relevant? Where do we fit in history?
Well, you probably heard of Sakajoua, right?
Actually, her name is pronounced Sagawa, which is my language, which means birdwoman.
And Sagawa was was part of the Discovery Corps. She was picked up by by Louiswis and Clark from my people.
Sagawa was not a Hata. who was actually a Shosonyi who was captured by the Hata when she was very young and she was absorbed into our tribe.
So my people my people that the Hata is where where Sagawa came from.
So back to my story in particular, Blackhawk, my brother or my my great greatgrandfather was part of the Hoska band from like a fish hook village.
uh and he went to Fort Buford uh when they were forced back to the Fort Berthal Indian Reservation which is where I now live in 1894. He was forced by the US government to divorce his wives. So he divorced Mink and married different Cherries. Blackhawk uh was sec the second chief from Crows Fly High who is also one of my relatives distantly as the chief of the Herata at Fort Buford.
His son, Joseph Youngbird, succeeded him in his position when Blackhawk passed away. This is Joseph Youngbird and his family. [snorts] So, notice the the young lady in the elkto dress.
I'm tripping in the chat. That's cool.
Show me your lineage. How far you can go back. This is Mary Young, my two time great grandmother.
This is me and my family. My mother's actually when we were taking this picture, my my great grand my two times great grandmother was actually in the hospital. She was supposed to be in this picture with us, the Hata people. We have a and this is part of this book that that uh that Alfred Bowers wrote uh after spending some time with us and and he we taught him our ways. So he documented many of our things right from one of our villages. So this is the hata social and ceremonial organization book uh printed by the US government printing office.
And so this shows and and and this and this part here shows that of of a very robust adoption protocol.
So does this sound like some folks who don't know who we're talking about?
Indigenous black man. Does this does it sound like I'm tripping?
Do you know any of this stuff about your people? I don't think so.
But we had a very robust kinship and clansship system, a very robust adoption system.
And also we knew our clans. So this is the the the the 50th anniversary issue of the Hata Sanish College, the the the college which my my tribe has and [clears throat] they updated all of our clans.
So you never heard of these clans, ISUPK, IUIC, because y'all don't know. Y'all don't know anything about us.
The Hata clans. There's the three clan.
The Apukawiga which is the low cap which is my clan.
The Madi who is the alkali lodge. The Medidoga.
The Flint light flint knife clan. The Awah the dripping dirt. The Zitska which is where I'm a child of the prairie chicken clan. The midi which is the water buster clan. And the itshuka clan which is the wide ridge.
I'm speaking my language. I know these clans. When I hear Zitzka, I know exactly who they're talking about. When they're talking about the itshuka, I know exactly who they're talking about.
When I hear the messida, I know exactly who they're talking about.
We don't know who we are. We don't understand our life ways. So much so that you got to tell us.
Here's just a hint. just a hint at how complex our our lineage system is.
Who is my mother?
If I'm a boy, so me as a male, who is my mom? My birthmother is my mom. My mother's sister is my mom. My father's brother's wife is also my mom. My clanfather's wives. Those are all my moms according to our customs.
Who is my father? My birth father. Who was my my my father? My father's brothers. my mother's sister's husband, my father's mother. Does this look like Does this look like this is this is something simple and easy? No, we we know who we are.
We we know who we are.
So, in the video he says, "We got another comment from Mr. Phil Fox and he said, you know, what time frame did did the the Native American people come from Israel?" Oh, that's a good question.
That's a good question, he said.
Right. That's a good question.
What I'd have to say is uh about 5,000 or 6,000 if I ain't mistaken. If I'm wrong, I'll get back to you. He said, "Y'all were just tune tune in to class."
You know, he tried to default to go back. I tune in to class because I don't know is what he basically what he was saying.
He said, "Uh, but yeah, about about five or 6,000 or four or somewhere around that number." All right, don't quote me on that. This is a teacher.
This is someone who's supposed to know.
So again, my people, but I have some older relatives.
I have some older relatives. So Abos, who think y'all know?
Bruce, think y'all know what? What did he say? Let's Let's go back here real quick. What did he say?
How many years?
>> 5 to 6,000.
>> 5 to 6,000.
Well, I have a relative that's 12,000 almost 13,000 years old.
DNA evidence.
Relative.
Well, we don't use DNA evidence. We don't use science. We just we just we just use the Bible. All right. Well, how is your Bible validated?
How in the world that you know anything in that Bible is true? Because there's archaeological evidence to show there's time there's there's there's time frames to show exactly what was going on and it's validated using science and those methods whether you like it or not.
So this is what he said 5,000 6,000 maybe. [snorts] So, here's the peer-reviewed article.
Native American boy found in what's now known as Montana.
If you want to reach out, if you want to reach out, I have this article. It's behind a payw wall. It costs $30. I I can give it to you for free.
I'll I'll afford you that. I'll give you that if you come to me in earnest and like, "Hey, yo, I want that article.
I'll give it to you."
This is where he was. This is the Anzix, the Anzac burial site. The reason why he was called the Anzac is because that was the last name of the people who who found him. He was found on that land, this this boy, a young a young boy about uh about a year old roughly.
And they cleared it with all of the tribes in Montana to ensure that they can do the the the dating and and disturb this site.
And then they collectively gave him back to the to those tribes. So the remains of Anzac one is what he was called were discovered on the Anzac family property with the front end loader when they were just collect they were just doing some stuff some excavating of their own and along with 125 artifacts. The artifacts and remains have been covered uh in red ochre a a m a mineral pigment which is widely used in ceremonies. So this is part of the the ancient Clovis culture in Montana.
So they showed care.
These are these are goods. These are these are expensive. This is this is for a child to be buried with something like this with this much weaponry with him was is significant.
So, we don't know who we are, fam.
So, this is just a a snapshot for y'all who try to say, "Oh, well, y'all are Israelites."
[snorts] So, this is the DNA proof.
The stuff that is in the black and the dark blue is the furthest away.
And you can see it starts to turn more of a green to a yellow to a orange to a red.
So, we are not part of Semitic people.
We're not even closely related to Seemetic people according to the DNA evidence.
And this is this again, this is a snapshot just for just for for ease sake. If you want the article, I'll give it to you. You don't believe me? Take the article. I'll give it to you.
Body bag. Hey, yep. BMG, >> did this gentleman just put a body bag at the end of his presentation?
>> Yes, sir.
>> And we're not over, D. We're not over yet. We're not done. We're not done.
We're not done.
>> Hold on.
>> We're not done.
>> One one more one more thing.
>> Uh oh. Oh, yeah. Phil, >> one more thing.
We're not done, D. We just We just started. [sighs] >> Let me see.
>> We are just starting, sir.
>> Indigenous black mans say, "Uh, [clears throat] >> oh, I I don't know. I don't know who I am." [laughter] >> Indigenous black man.
I mean, feel free to to disagree with Phil. You could come and make a presentation and refute the sources f.
>> So yeah, I don't know who I am, but I wasn't [clears throat] going to use this flex, but I'll use this flex right now.
>> The chair right there.
Now one person in this world who does not know who they are as their own personal honor song.
This song is made for me.
>> Oh wow.
>> They are singing about me. [screaming] >> I don't know who I am.
I don't know who I am. I don't understand about who I am.
>> What other animal got your own personal honors?
Some other Hebrew Israelite got their own personal honor song >> talking about what they're saying in this song is my brother is generous. My brother he gives to the people. My brother is is spectacular. They say he's he is langu [screaming] I don't know who I am.
I live them.
>> They write songs about me.
>> They tell stories about me.
But I don't hear no other Israelite to me.
What?
Show me your strong.
You got didn't think so.
I didn't want to have to flex.
Well, they they do say that every hero has to have his own theme song, right?
So, I mean, >> that was that was not fair what you just did. [laughter] That was not that Oh my goodness, man.
That I can't believe you just did that, man. That's >> That was a bonus. That wasn't even part of the thing. That was bonus.
>> Man, >> you think darkness is your ally?
You really adopted the dark.
I was born in it, molded by it.
I didn't see the light until I was already a man. By then, it was nothing to me but blind.
>> Pretty much, [clears throat] >> man. I don't know what else to >> That was appropriate. That was very appropriate. Yes. Yes.
>> But you know what? We're not done yet, bro. We're not done yet. We're not done yet. All right, here we go.
>> But wait, there's more.
>> All right, share my screen, D. All right.
>> And here one. But they took this counsel amongst themselves that they would lead the multitude of the heathen and go forth into a uh further country farther country where never mankind dwelt.
>> Yes. And that was America.
And say that name of that place before it was called America.
Go ahead. read >> uh keep uh keep going. You want me to keep reading?
>> Yeah. The name the name of the uh the place should be in there before it was called America.
>> Com it says verse 42 that they might there keep their statutes where they never kept in their own land.
>> Mhm.
>> Verse 40.
>> All right. So let's stop there. So he's quoting second Edris. And the claim being made here is that Azeroth is actually America.
All right, that's what they're saying that uh share my other screen. Um D.
Thank you. Right. So this is the claim they're making. Right. So let's talk a little bit about second Ezras. Right.
This is from the Old Testament pseudapigrapha volume one ofic literature and testaments by James H.
Charlesworth. The treatis identified in Latin manuscript as for Ezra comprised chapters 3 to 14 of an expanded form of the book traditionally included among the apocryphal of English Bibles under the title second estrus. This expanded form includes a Christian framework comprising chapters 1F and 15F commonly called second and five Ezras in the la latter Latin manuscripts.
Now, it's interesting how this this book, you know, where it where it speaks on the opening two chapters set forth a divine call to Ezra, a man of priestly descent to reprove the Jewish people of their waywardness despite God's repeated mercies. rejected by Israel, Ezra turns to the Gentiles and is granted a vision of great multitude that stands on Mount Zion, each receiving a crown from the son of God whom they confess in the world. This is in Ezra's. They love going to this.
But in this it talks about how Ezra had to turn to the Gentiles and there was a great vision of a great multitude who was standing on Zion. But that's besides the point I just want to share.
So this is second Edris what they were reading right these are the 10 tribes which led away from their own land into captivity in the days of King Hosea who salamant the king of the Syrians led capt. He took them across the river and they were taken into another land. But they formed this plan for themselves that they would leave the multitude of the nations and go to a more distant region where mankind had never lived.
That there at least they might keep their statues which they had not kept in their own land. And they went in by the narrow passages of the Euphrates River.
For at that time the Most High performed signs for them and stopped the channels of the river until they had passed over.
Though that region there was a long way to go, a journey of a half of a year and a half and that country was called Azareth and they believe that Azeroth is America.
Well, in the 10 lost tribes, the world history by Zevi Benor Benite, even a cursory reading uncovers that Ezra is referencing the core story in second kings, the exile by Salomoner. He also clearly alludes to the Dethronomic verse foretelling the exile of the tribes to quote another land. The first usage merely echoes the verse in Deuteronomy and speaks of an unnamed land and other land in Hebrew are aaref. It is simply a land other than the land of Israel as opposed to known locations of exile, the rivers of Babylon, Egypt. It is unknown.
This Azeroth place is unknown. It we just know that it's a another land. All right.
Recall that Deuteronomy had addressed the lostness of the tribes by emphasizing the total anonymity of their new place of dwelling. Ezra's however named the place by converting the Hebrew words aaref into one designator Azareth.
The replacing of the E and the A is because when not in construct state, the Hebrew word ets reads aets. The quote of a land of Deuteronomy previously defined only by what was not becomes a real and concrete entity with a proper name. A region which is called Azarus. So this is just some backtory on how this word came about, right? It's just this mysterious other land and it became a one word as opposed to two. Okay. From a theological standpoint, Azareth is of course a metaphor, an imaginary and pristine place juxtaposed with our own mundane and tainted world. Yet at the same time, it's presented as a real location reached via familiar and known geographical markers. The word itself is simply a mistransation of the Hebrew term for another land.
It's a metaphor for an imaginary and pristine place.
Uh this is from Azareth in the Lexom Bible dictionary. Azare appears in the book of second Ezras as a destination where Israelites were deported. Beyond this single biblical reference, the place name has no corroborating additation in other historical or geographical sources. There's nothing here that backs up that Azra is America.
In fact, no one knows where Azeroth is.
No one. There's no cooperating evidence in other historical and geographical sources. There isn't any.
This is they're literally making it up.
Nowhere. The the consensus is that Azareth is this pristine imaginary foreign place. That's it. That's all.
Phil D, your thoughts before we continue?
>> Well, well, BK, now hold on, man. Is this is this the the the devil's history or is this like where are you [cough] where are you where are you getting this information from? Because I mean listen man the dark ages was when our people was actually ru this what you doing this what you [laughter] >> No hear me I'm saying so but they but they take they don't tell you that. So I'm just saying where where are you getting this from that we don't know where Azareth is? The brother said read the Bible.
>> Well first of all I mean we don't consider second Ed's cananan. Not that there's no worth in the book but it's not part of our cannon. So that's one.
Two this is the consensus in academia.
There hasn't been any proof that Azra is America or any other place for that matter. They're just none. So yeah, I guess I mean cuz if if we're going to play the the genetic fallacy and say, "Well, this is wrong because white people say it, then we need to get off Streamyard because white people own it and we shouldn't use Stream on YouTube because white people use that too, right?" So if we're going to play that game >> and all you hot taps can't read none of y'all books cuz all y'all sources >> I'm just saying [clears throat] right we're going to play that game that pocket Zondavan pocket dictionary I use BK loves so much >> white >> that's white I'm just saying >> ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED >> SO ANYWAY >> ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED >> LET'S continue uh DMG we can um well let me share hold I I that that nickname just becomes more and more appropriate the longer this go. [laughter] >> All right. So here we go.
Com the book of Genesis chapter 40 49 and verse 19.
Gad a troop shall overcome him but he shall overcome at the last.
>> See what you're doing BK. Gad is the name American Indians. And that troop did overcome him over here in America.
That was those colonizers, those so-called 13 colonies, right y'all? The 13 colonies, them colonizers that came over here.
They they came over, you know, overthrew Gad. But Gad will prevail in the end.
How would Christ come back?
>> All right. So they go to a verse [clears throat] right DMG if you can. Thank you. So they're saying that you know G is the name of the American Indians and that the troop did overcome him here in America. Right?
Right. So they're quoting this this verse [snorts] Genesis 49:19.
Raiders shall raid Gad, but he shall raid at their hills. And they're using this as a as a an analogous connection >> between the fights of the troops that the natives had in America troops >> because it's using the word troops, right? But context is everything, right?
We have to understand that these scriptures and all historical documents were written to a particular people at a particular time. So when the original audience saw this, what would they have thought? Would they have really thought that it was America and these troops and natives or would they thought of this?
And this is from um Faith Life Study Bible. Bandit shall attack Gad with its tribal inheritance located east of the Jordan River. Gad regularly had problems with the Ammonites, Moabites, Arameians, and assortment of other semi-nomatic groups. This phrase also highlights Gad's small size.
>> So this is the issue.
>> Where their tribe was located in Israel, the their their boundaries, they would have these other raiding parties come in to try attack G. Okay. Uh, and this is from Alan P. Ross, Genesis in the Bible.
Three of the six Hebrew words in verse 19 are a play on the name Gad, attack.
Gad will be attacked by a raid of attackers, but he will attack. The verb Gdad means to break into or to attack.
>> Border raids were often experienced by the tribes settled east of the Jordan River. That's what they were talking about.
The ops live down the block from Gad, right? And these dudes will come in and try to attack, but then Gad will attack them. So this this is like almost a double on Tandra. You know, it's like you're going to attack the attackers, but in the end, the real attackers are going to attack you. That's what it's saying.
It's not talking about Native Americans fighting the troops at all. context is Kane. All right.
>> Now, hold on.
>> Let me share real quick.
>> Go ahead, bro.
[cough] [clears throat] Shout out the vocab.
>> I mean, this is really some some LOD type of stuff. Y'all tagging in and tagging out, taking turns sharing your screen. BK, I I'mma call you Hulk and I'mma call I'mma call my man Phil animal. Honk and animal. The LD of urban apologetics.
[cough and clears throat] >> Yeah, brother. Yeah, Phil.
>> All right, here it comes. Yeah, I had it uh I didn't have it teed up the way I wanted. So, [gasps] all right. So, close to the same thing. BK BK and I we both I did a whole show on on Troop, right?
So, yeah. So g a gad a troop shall overcome. That's the that's and again this I had this specific to IUIC but it's it's the same. They're they're using it interchangeably. So and most of your one west variety Hebrew Israelites would would do that. Shout out to Vocab as well. Um [clears throat] so again just a quick word study, right? Oh, I love hot dogs, right? Who doesn't love a hot dog? And I love my family, right?
And I love you, babe. Those are three different contexts, right? Four different contexts as to the word love, right? I love lamp.
[snorts] So, we have to know that there's a there's a wide range of love, right? Wide range. So, so the the the the range of of what a word can mean is isn't just one single thing, especially when we transfer it to English, right?
So we know this is all the different uh translations and Greek translations of of of the word love. So we all some of us know that some some of us we all know that. So troop right troop that overcame the tribe of Gad was in the United States. Okay. So yeah. So this is the IUIC version and it's it's it's part and parcel of of the commentary that they gave with ISUPK, right? Troop once again. So they're using this word gdad or gdude troop.
And here's the Strongs which they like to use, right?
Here's another Lexam research lex lexicon of the Bible. same word band raid troop of warriors right troop a group of soldiers in an army sometimes referred collectively as troops so here's where it's used the Hebrew the same but we can also call it raider right so BK's version of this isn't now look at Let's let's see that. So see the this troop this version of troop is that in the Genesis it's not the context of raider or marauder or the implication is a smaller version right that's the Genesis 4919 version a marauding band Right.
So a smaller group. So was the United States government a marauding ban to the indigenous people?
So again just to back up my brother BK apologist's point, right? This is what's in the in in the in in the the larger the the larger context. This is what's called a illegitimate totality transfer.
So you're trying you're trying to force in you're trying to force in whatever whatever meaning that you think and fits your own context. So you're just trying to so you seeing that troop fits and and so all right I'm going to use that and I'm going to boom that's the one I'm going to use. But disregarding the actual context is what you're doing.
And that this is the this is the le the the lexical fallacy that you're that you're committing is this.
So raiders shall raid Gad, but they shall raid at their hills.
Gad will be attacked by raiders.
So don't think government, think right.
So yeah. So, just to back up my brother BK's point, >> that's what's up to >> show and to show we're on the same page.
This was fan I had that this is completely different slideshows, completely different everything. And that was made years ago and BK just he did his his a couple days ago. So, just to show we're on the same page, fam.
>> How else would you like to be chopped up?
[clears throat] >> [laughter] >> Want me to play my song again?
Now chill, chill, chill, chill. Easy, easy, easy, easy killer. Easy killer.
All right, let's keep it going.
[laughter] If you if if you can read, I know devils don't, you know, they don't read. Devils don't know how to read. They come They cave dwellers. Cave dwellers don't read.
You know what I mean? But if you could read cave dweller, the book of Deuteronomy chapter 28, the curses in it, that fits us. That fix that fits blacks, Latinos, and native Indians.
>> All right. So, you heard what the man said, he said.
[snorts] Maybe you can share that D.
All right. If we can read because you know Phil because Phil is a cave dweller right so but if you could read cave dweller the book of Deuteronomy 28 chapter 28 the curses in it fits us that fits blacks Latinos and native Indians now we all know that Hebrew Israelism isn't a monolith right there's v variations of doctrine but there are some core things that pretty much all the one west derivatives will abide by and this is one of them, right? We know we are the people of the book because of the curses of Deuteronomy 28, right? But my question is, do you know what Deuteronomy is? Cuz if you don't know the genre in which this book is written in, how do you know if you're taking that verse out of context? So Deuteronomy, right? A number of scholars have argued conventedly that there is a relationship and form between the Hebrew covenant and ancient Neareastern vassel treaty. In its classical form, the Neareastern vassel treaty has the following component parts.
Um and it and it list it listed the preamble, stipulations, uh oath, blessings and curses, right?
So, a study of the oral background and setting of Deuteronomy 27:28 and of ancient Neareastern treaties more generally reveals that oral pronouncement of the oath before a gathered assembly was a central component of covenant and treaty ratification. The book of Deuteronomy is written in a similar format of a vassel treaty, right? Between the Ceserian, which is the big king, and the vassel, which is the small king, right? And in this case in Deuteronomy, the big king is Yahweh.
But in order for the for this to be ratified, there has to be an oral pronouncement.
As we can see, the word amen or amen carries within it within it not only faith but certainty and steadfastness.
It is often used in psalms, prayers, and blessings as a yes, this is true or yes, I agree. In some cases, the Torah even commands people to say amen and legal procedures when committing to to fulfill something.
We see that especially in Deuteronomy 27, but also in numbers 5:22.
So we actually have the oath taken taking ceremony recorded in Deuteronomy 27:14.
Right? So I'm going to need some some participation from DMG and Phil Fox.
Right? So I'm going to play the the Levitical priesthood. You guys are gonna play the Israelites, right? Every time you see the word amen, I need you guys to say amen. Okay.
>> Amen.
>> And the Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. But all right.
>> Gotcha.
>> And the Levite shall declare to all the men of Israel in a loud voice, "Cursed be the man who makes a carved or cast metal image, an abomination to the Lord, a thing made by the hands of a craftsman, and sets it up in secret. And all the people shall answer and say, "Black power." No, [laughter] man. Amen.
Amen.
>> Yeah, that too. Amen. But yeah, black power.
>> Black. Yeah, black power. But Amen.
Cursed be anyone who dishonors his father or his mother, and all the people shay, >> Amen.
>> Cursed be anyone who moves his neighbor's landmark, and all the people shall say, >> Amen.
Cursed be anyone who misleads a blind man on the road and the people shall say, >> "Amen."
>> And it and and it keeps going like that.
This is the oath taking ceremony. The curses don't come into effect unless you take the oath. So here's the question.
Did I UPK take the oath?
Because if you don't take the oath, you don't incur the curses.
Oh man.
>> And this covenant continues to get renewed. Why? Because it doesn't pass on biologically.
Cuz we see in Deuteronomy 29:30, Moab renew under Moses and Joshua 24 sketch renew and 2 Chronicles 15.
There's Assa's reform, right? 2 Kings 11:17, which coincides with 2 Chronicles 23:16. Joahida and Joash. In 2 Chronicles, we have Hezekiah's reform.
In 2 Chronicles and sec 2 Kings, Josiah's reform. And in Nehemiah 8:10, post exilic. This is when they come back from from being in exile. They take the oath. We see it continually happening.
So, if you're going to say that we know we're Israel because of the curses, well, you had to take the oath for those curses to be enacted upon you.
So, the question is, did you take the oath?
So, and then last, well, I think this is lastly.
I'll just read it. Actually, before I do that, before I do that, gentlemen, any questions, >> comments? Well, well, well, BK, um, again, I I just have to I have to say, are you getting this information from Esau or >> um, where come from?
>> Straight straight from the Vatican, baby.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, I I have a direct line with the Pope, you know what I mean? Because I'm a Jesuit.
>> I work for Vocab. I'm a, you know, we're Jesuits.
>> Commanding General Yana.
Uh, General Mahimman, Captain Toriard, Captain Katazar, Captain Deal Gabbor, they all disagree with you, bro. They the Baron straight >> is not even It's not even a real thing.
It's made up.
>> I got my I'm going to tell you where I got my information from. I'm going to tell you right. I got my information the same place where they get them spike headbands.
>> Yep. That's where I get my information.
>> Oh, wow. So, so you get your information from an apparel shop. That's [laughter] >> from the white man.
>> Whip, my brother. Go ahead, my brother.
>> All right. So, then they say this was I thought was hilarious.
They they weren't concerned about no DNA test when they were under them slaveships, right? [laughter] Who? That's what they said.
That's what they said when who was on what slave ships.
They wasn't concerned about no DNA test when we was on them slave ships. He says this one of the guys.
So here's the problem with that.
Let's do a little timeline. Right. So [snorts] 1867 was the last known illegal slave ship voyage from Africa to the America is completed.
All right.
Um, 1869 DNA is discovered by the Swiss biochemist. Oh my god.
>> Um, why? You know why, Alfredo? We won, right? We got the chip.
>> Yeah, we got THE CHIP, BABY.
>> WE GOT THE CHIP, SON. LET'S GO.
>> Let's go, SON.
>> BUSTING up some night.
>> Let's go, baby. Let's go.
>> Yes. New York, stand up, man.
>> Yeah.
>> Anyway, [screaming] anyway, I'm sorry.
>> 1869, DNA discovered by Swiss biochemist Frederick Misher. So, right after the last known slave ship, DNA was discovered. Okay. But in 1984, Alex Jeff at the University of of Lee Kester developed DNA fingerprinting. the first practical method of identifying individuals using DNA. So yeah, they weren't concerned about DNA in the slave ships cuz they didn't even discover it, let alone were able to use it to identify people. So I So with all respect, that was a very uh ignorant thing to say.
I know you're trying to be funny, I guess, but bro, like that's like know your history a little better. You know what I mean? Like that was just bad. That was bad. And that's all I got for you.
We're done.
>> Well, um I feel like y'all came in here.
Uh my brother was talking about raiderers and plunderers.
I feel like y'all y'all are intellectual raiders and plunderers, man. Um, I think y'all messing up uh the way a lot of us think and believe about where we from, how we got here, or or we're already here, etc. I just I got questions, man. I got questions. Um uh my elbow brothers and sisters, my elbow brothers and sisters say we were always here. Uh the slave trade didn't happen the way uh we told it did. Um, I haven't I haven't really gotten an explanation for who feels people are, but um, if we was always here, can can can two things be true? Can we have always been here and your people still be who they are and and what they are? Well, we got to we got to prove that we displaced y'all because that's that's the common narrative is that we've displaced y'all and and somehow we took over and we're in cahoots with the United States government >> and >> Oh, really?
>> You got to go.
>> You got to go ahead.
>> I'm sorry. Go ahead.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I was just going to say [clears throat] if you if you think that indigenous people have this this this weird love for the United States government and we absolutely love why why do we have some of the history that we have? Why was there the the Dakota 38, the Dakota people that were hung the largest mass execution of indigenous people to this date on this country?
President Abraham Lincoln hung 38 indigenous warriors.
Why do we have those types of histories?
Why why was it that the Mandan people, my people, lost 90% of our population due to smallpox?
How is that being in cahoot somehow with this United States government to try to take away your identity as an [ __ ] How how does any of that fit? See, y'all just use stuff that happened on on the on the East Coast where yes, there was there were tribes, very few of them and very for a very short time who took black slaves because they were trying to assimilate into the white way of life, the European way of life, and then they abolished that even before slaver uh there was the abolitionist movement. So, y'all want to take those little pieces of history and try to propagate that into explaining as to how you, but y'all can't bring that same narrative to my people and many of the Plains tribes because we fought tooth and nail. Look right here. Right here. There's a reason why there's an entire cycl encyclopedia of Indian wars that were happening between us and the US government. Y'all can't bring that garbage here and explain this stuff away. [clears throat] There's in there's almost a century over a century of indigenous wars, Indian wars that were happening. Look how thick these books are. And these aren't these aren't long long narratives. Look, there's there's one right there. There's another one right there. Just overview.
Look at that. Pages and pages of of wars and wars. Same thing with this book.
So explain all that away. How you going to say, [ __ ] that that oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh they're they're they're they're just you know they're in they're in with the United States government to take away our identity. How how you going to explain that? You can't because we we were already here. Our we have DNA evidence. If if y'all people was here, show us the evidence. Show us the evidence. No, it's all cursorary evidence. It's all it's all picture evidence of of of Indians being being darker and stuff. Yeah, we all we lived outside. That was our culture. We were we were outside people. We lived outside. We worked and we we had things.
So, yes, we were darker in color back then. Absolutely. If I go outside and I spend a lot of time when when pow season comes around, I am dark.
But it's because it's it's just coming off of of winter time where I'm inside most of the day. I get a lighter complexion.
>> So, so yeah. So, you want to argue with that? Show me the proof. Show me other than just pictures other than these and and Hebrew Israelites, other than these these fake artifacts, the lost luna stones and the man >> that creek stone and all those type of things >> and Mormon stuff. Tell them, Phil.
[clears throat] >> So, yeah. Show me. Show me. Other other than these these these very loose, oh, they're they they they they took the terms and and they reclassified us and and and and that's how and you know, making it like we're we're in cahoots with the government like we love the government and and we we're we were sitting there thinking up ways on how to how to displace the the darker the the the black abos. No, ain't none of that.
Y'all got to keep it on the East Coast.
Y'all have no answers for the for the any of the stuff that I have shown you.
There's a reason why that that that we're we're about to here in about a month celebrate victory day when we took out Kuster. Uh yo, I've seen that. Yo, they they are wild disrespectful with Custer, bro. D Yo, their ceremony. Yo, they literally mopped the floor with the Confederate flag, bro. with Kuster's flag. Not the Custer's flag. My bad. Custer's flag.
His personal flag that he had because his own little regiment.
>> We dance and we we we wipe the floor with that flag.
>> Disrespect, bro. [clears throat] >> Yes.
>> We march in. We're singing our music.
We're singing a victory song.
And we're dancing in. And we're we have all of our our eagle staffs, which are our version of a flag. And we carry our eagle staffs nice and high.
And then we drag Kuster's flag on the ground.
>> Yeah, buddy. So if >> Yeah, buddy.
>> So, Abos, what y'all think we got love for the United States government? Uh >> oh. Uh oh. I ain't got no love for the United States government. I got shows. I got shows upon shows. I've done hours talking about the doctrine of discovery itself and how how how it's stood up the roots of racism in this country and [snorts] how the bedrock foundation of these United States government actually that's what that's what this whole entire row of books is about. It's about the doctrine of discovery and how how the the United States government has used and and dis dis uh uh disenfranchised by my by native people.
how they had to set up our own Indian tribal law, our own law to use it against us. So that way, that way they can stack the deck against us. So they they have regular law, regulatory law, and then they also have Indian law separate.
So we we somehow we love the government.
Somehow we're trying to we're trying to trying to do a con job on you Abos for what? We're fighting our own We're fighting our own war against the United States government.
>> Let let me ask you something. Um, so provided the relationship between your people and the government, what do you say to to someone who purports that Christianity is the white man's religion that is part and parcel to white supremacy.
Um, and it's been used to control not just my people but your people as as well. Is is it was used to pass oppressed people?
How do you answer that given your your people's relationship to the government and dare I well well I guess the first question would be before you answer that what is your people's relationship with the Bible is it similar to what BK and I encounter in the conscious community.
>> Yeah it's the same thing I get I get uh I get called an apple all the time. I'm red on the outside and white on the inside.
So listen to this. This is this is a book that talking about the doctrine of discovery.
Uh native native America discovered and conquered Thomas Jefferson, Lewis and Clark and manifest destiny.
This is in the open. And uh I uh IPK since you're listening and I have your ear, there was a show uh that actually BK happened to be on where he mopped the floor with uh with Captain Tesario. And on that show, I happened to ask Captain Tesario if he knew what the 10 elements or the 10 tenants of the doctrine of discovery were because he was trying to use the doctrine of discovery and again my indigenous people's hurt to stand up false claims.
Here's the 10 elements of discovery of the doctrine of discovery by one of the foremost experts uh Robert J. Miller is his book this is his book.
So the 10 elements are one first discovery, second actual occupancy and current possession, three uh preeemption and European title.
Four, just bear with me because this is going to pay off in the end.
Indian title. Five, tribal limited sovereign and commercial rights.
Six, contiguity.
Seven, Terranolis.
Eight, Christianity.
Nine, civilization. And 10, conquest.
So, one of the elements of the doctrine of discovery is the weaponization and the bastardization of Christianity.
Now, when you're asking that question, my question back to them is, "Yeah, I have the same view as Frederick Douglas."
When he couldn't discern the the the the the two Christianities, the one that he read in the Bible and the one that crossed over with the white man, because those two Christianities don't mix.
Those two Christianities are not the same thing.
the the the message that I hear from Jesus talking about forgiveness and and social justice. Oh, I use a buzz word, right? All my white friends are going to be mad because they don't like that word, social justice.
But no, social justice is a mandate that we are to love our neighbors. we are too. And surprisingly, if you look at the actual Christianity that Jesus taught, it's closer to it's closer tied to many of my indigenous people's values and things that we have done, community.
I talked about our our lineage, our kinship, our our our clansship systems, tribes, >> because our tribes.
>> Yep. Everything is tribal. Jesus was a tribal man of the tribe of uh of Judah, right? We know that he was of that tribe. And guess what? Each tribe, right, the reason why each of those tribes happened to be different, right?
Is because each line had a specific reason to be part of the larger community. So the same thing is in with my indigenous communities is that many of our clans had different functionalities within within our our larger tribe. So it's the same thing.
And so so we and and yes I do believe absolutely that we are one human race. I do believe yes that we all came off the ark. I do believe that we are one people and that we all are part of the Tower of Babel. That's where our languages got mixed up. I do believe that wholeheartedly, 1,000%.
But the the part that I disagree with, is where the Hebrew Israelites or the Abbos or anyone who is trying to come and tell me exactly who I am and say that I forgot my identity and y'all don't know, fam, because you're a $5 Indian. Tell me what $5 Indian has their own song talking about them and their antics and their deeds and the things that they've done part of their community. Uh oh yeah, I'll wait.
And you know to um I used to be St. Louis there. He says I'm actually falling asleep. Actually, you have fallen asleep.
>> Not falling fallen.
>> That's that's kind of what the problem is. Mhm. So, and that's cool. That's cool. See, because they they can't he can make comments like that all day long. That doesn't bother me because see, he the reason why he's got to say stuff like that is because he's not going to come in with any scholarly arguments. He hasn't sat down with any tribal elders to to tell him, "Actually, you know what? You're wrong, sir, because I sat down with this elder and we've we spent hours and we had coffee and or we sat around the drum and and and and had had hours and hours of conversations talking about this and that and these things and they told me, "No, they don't do that because they can't." So, they have to go and say, "Oh, I'm falling asleep."
That's cool. [laughter] Go ahead, fall asleep. That's because you ain't got nothing for me. Because again, [clears throat] you only read about this stuff. I live this stuff. I am this stuff.
I am in my community. I am doing things in my community. I I I helped teach the the other day people how to make dream catchers. I helped young people in my community about a month ago. We made drums, religious and ceremonial for for our music and for us to pass down our way of life. That's stuff that I do. I live it.
Y'all just think about it and want to want to pretend. If we had time, DMG, I would I would show you ISU uh IUIC's biggest blunder when they try to use my tribe and one of my chiefs. They try to use the drawings. That's what BK was talking about earlier. They try to use one of the drawings and I cut him to death and put him in the body bag with that [laughter] because they try to say that one of the drawings that was on the the uh Actually, you know what? Let's get into it. I'll I'll do a really condensed version of this real quick.
>> You don't want to see this.
>> Yo, D, this is bad. D, watch this. This is bad.
>> Now, this is IUIC. So, again, we got to remember that, you know, all of these tribe or all of these uh camps are >> Watch how Watch how surgical Phil gets.
Watch. Watch this. Watch this.
>> All right, let's see.
All right, let me get this and then present entire screen.
>> We got the chip, baby. We got the chip.
>> Got the chip, man. Nothing better. Here we go. So, again, IYC, they messed up.
Tribe of Gad. Okay. All right. All right. So, again, I'm using their content, but this is directly from their website. They're the ones who show they they gave this to me. All right. All I did is take it. So, we're the Tribe of Gad. All right. So, this is their website. Them. This is theirs, right?
Oh, look. They even got a little teepee right here. Look. A look at that little teepee.
Tribe of Gad. All right. Here's the 12 Tribes chart. All right. They've all They modified it. I don't know how many times now. Uh oh. Here we go.
So, [clears throat and cough] here's what they try to use right here. We're going to look at this 30 uh 33:20. And as of Gad, he said, "Blessed he that enlargeth Gad." And then look at their commentary. Okay? Just just notice. Just something for you to notice. Okay?
Here's the IUIC version right here.
Straight from their website. I didn't I didn't do anything right here. Here's the actual text. Boom. Look at that.
Look at the difference.
And look, even in here, all they do is just they just bold it. any a common person who's who's not really paying attention. They might think the Bible actually says this stuff, right? But no, thank goodness we're we know. Okay. So, and he that and he uh of Gad he said, "Blessed he who enlarges Gad. He dwells as a lion and tears the arm of the crown of his head." So, we're going to we're going to we're going to see that. We're going to look at that. We're going to examine that. And that's their biggest blunder. Boom.
So, they say there's about uh about 300 or so Indian tribes. Again, unlearned.
They don't know. There's 574 of them.
300. What? Actually, there's 75 now. 575 because one just got accepted. Um, indigenous [clears throat] population pre Columbus, right? Just uh let's just say approximately lower 48. Just approximately. Okay, this is a very conservative number. 25 million approximately. According to the census in 1800, only 250 left. That's a 90% death rate.
Okay. indigenous population today only 2.9% 2.09% 09% okay of the US population okay so yes we are still here but no we are not in largest right we are still a small minority of this country even though our population at one time was 25 million versus zero and that's just the lower 48 according to some of the census boom it was like 100 100 million on this side on this on this hemisphere north south central all >> [clears throat] >> I see. He dwelleth as a lion. All right.
Meaning he dwelt upon the land like predators. Okay. All right. Yeah.
Um this was somebody who quoted this the Arawak. Uh he brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things which they exchanged for glass beads and and hawk belts. They willingly traded everything they owned.
They did not bear arms. So basically they weren't as savage, right, as as they said. Who said this? Hm. I wonder.
It was Columbus.
Oops.
So some tribes who uh were war tribes, right? We they had warriors, but there they weren't war tribes. Some of your less known tribes because everybody knows the war tribes. Everybody knows who the Sue are. They were fierce. They were fierce. But not all bands of Sue.
There are other bands of Sue. the more known ones like like the Hung Papa Lakota where Crazy Horse came from. Uh those were the the the larger more war tribes. But there were other tribes like the Hata, my people, the Mandan, my people, the Oage, the Omaha, the Otay, the Iowa bands of Panei, the Kansas, the Cineaboin. These were all tribes that yes, they were known for their warriors, but they were not war tribes. So quit trying to lump us all in into one generic ball because we're different.
So this was a uh Irving uh Irving Washington Irving sorry. So they call these people the natives religious he said would would convey the faint idea of the deep hue of piety and the devotion talking about the people the indigenous people. They were told that we were nothing but savages. But he said, "Look, they're they're more like a nation of saints than a horde of savages."
>> So, quick history lesson, okay? We went through this. This is my stuff.
But this this is Mtopa.
This is Mandan. The Mandan chief, his name is Forebears. Mtopa.
Okay, that's going to be relevant here in a second. So, we already went through this. This is my stuff. Okay, why is that relevant? [clears throat] So again, their website, IYIC, I was on their website and then this hyperlink, for some reason, I was just going over it and it kept hyperlinking, Terth the arm, the North American Indian, and it kept coming up as a hyperlink. So I clicked that hyperlink and this picture popped up.
DMG, can you can you tell me what that says, bro? This picture, >> this picture was taken from the way of the warrior by the editors of Time Life Books. A pictorial illustration of the blood brother ritual.
>> Can you read what? It's a pictorial illustration of illustration of what?
>> The blood brother ritual.
>> Okay.
[snorts] I was like that looks familiar.
And actually this is taken from Mototopa untitled a battle with a Cheyenne chief. Actually this was taken from a faxmal picture or a pictorial representation of the picture that was on Mtopa's personal robe.
Now again who was Mtopa?
Do you remember DMG?
Mo, his name was Forbears. He was Mandan. Who am I? I'm part of the Mandan >> and the Rickar people.
>> Wow.
>> So, the pictorial illustration of a blood brother ritual.
But according to Carl Bodmer, who this picture was given to by Mato Topa, here he is. He says, "How Moto Topa December 1st, 1833, Mattopa brought me a drawing today that he had done for me." It depicts him characteristically fighting with a Cheyenne chief.
Afterward, he attentively watched Mr. Bodmer when he was drawing. was according to Maxmillian's journal.
This is actually a uh this is another faxmile copy of the buffalo robe of Mototopa's uh of the robe telling his stories.
Now look at this picture. Does this picture down there on the bottom right kind of look familiar?
This is in the Knife River historical villages here in North Dakota.
This is hanging hanging in one of the uh the Earth Lodges that are still there.
And uh it's it's now a historical site where our Earth Lodge villages were and [clears throat] here it is.
So again, Moto Topa Untitled.
DMG, can you tell me what's there in the brackets? What does that say there?
>> The battle with a Cheyenne chief.
[snorts] >> Wait, does did Wait, I thought that was a pictorial representation of the what?
>> The blood brother.
>> The blood brother ritual.
>> Oh, yeah. But here's the actual robe.
>> 1835.
This is in the This is >> This is in the historical museum in It's like Sweden or Switzerland, one of the two.
>> It's still here. It's still around. This is the actual robe.
They didn't think they were going to run into a a Mahihagadesh who was part of the Mandan Hat and Aricar people. They thought they were going to be able to take and spread their lies just like ISUPK is doing, just like any other of these 12 tribes chart carriers are doing. Here's a closeup.
[snorts] They didn't think they were going to run in to someone of the likes of me.
Cheyenne Chief with the knife. On the far right was the famous battle of Forbears had with the Cheyenne chief.
The chief challenged forebears to combat with rifles and horses. When forebears uh powder powder horn was shot away, uh the two turned to bows and arrows until they ran out of arrows. Both dismounted and turned to hand-to-hand combat. The Cheyenne chief drew his knife during the struggle and Forebears was cut across the hand multiple times while rrestling it away from him. Forbears can be seen bleeding from his hand in the picture.
This is the blood brother pact. I knew it.
But they lied.
Blood is a modern uh this is just the next point. Blood is a modern in European con concept. We don't have and I already showed you this our familial system.
But I digress again.
Body bag. So D, you have to understand the degree of disrespect that we just saw because IUIC actually used a family heirloom from Mahat Gadesh family line to propagate a white supremacist trope.
That's what they did. Blood brother pack. No, they used his his lineage, his great great great great ancestor to propagate a white supremacist trope. If that's not disrespect, I don't know what is.
>> And that's why I take it so personally.
>> Crazy.
>> That's why I take it so personally, >> cuz we got these these fools out here taking my history, rewriting it, so that way they can stand on the street corner in in 121st or whatever. whatever their address is. I heard him on these one west >> one west one west. I heard him the captain 121st his whole little speech.
But y'all do that and don't know a lick about what you're talking about.
Especially when it comes to my people.
But yet y'all want to sit there. I'm bored. I'm falling asleep.
[laughter] I caught that.
Oh man. Listen, this is um like you you really shot in the face of a a lot of the things that's been put forth in our community. Um so let me let me let me get clarity on this cuz I don't think I've ever talked to Cap about this.
Um, so the the idea is that because there are you have the tribe and the people you you belong to, but then there are how many other surviving tribes?
>> Well, right now federally recognized, there's 575, used to be 74. That's just federally recognized. Then there's another 300 and so that are state recognized and then there's a there's a handful of tribes that are trying to get their recognition. Um, [clears throat] but I mean when we talk when we talk about tribes that are in and that's just that's just the United States. I'm just talking about the United States.
That's not counting all the tribes that were in Central in the Yucatan in South America in Canada. All of those tribes they all all all of them are different.
So, I mean, it's probably in the thousands of of tribes that were actually here. And again, the reason why this is important is because we all have different culture ways. We all have different lifeways. We all have different ceremonies.
We all have different languages.
We have we have different even different belief systems. Now, yes, there are some things that overlap just like just like things that were happening in Israel, right? They were they were sharing culture and they were rubbing off on each other and they were because they were in proximity to one another. And so they were sharing culture with each other and and they couldn't help but pick up this ceremony or that ceremony and and actually we would even buy and purchase ceremonies from each other. And we would have a ceremony to do that. and we would we would purchase the right to perform that ceremony and and all those things and songs and and and words and and all these different types of things.
So, yes, we were cross-pollinating together as well.
So, that's that's why it's maddening because I am Hata and Mandan and Erica and I carry all of those things. I I am learning the languages. Our languages are dying. I'm learning our lifeways, our customs, our stories, our origin stories. Even amongst those three tribes, there's different origin stories. There's different creation stories even within just those three.
But I am different from the Lakota. I am different from the Anishab. I'm a I'm different from the Picani or the Blackfoot. I seen someone in the chat said that they're Blackfoot. If you know your Blackfoot, then you know you're pici or you're unpikani. if you're from the Canadian side.
So again, like there's all of these different tribes. There's these these different lifeways and and and ceremony ways and religious ways that are rich and beautiful.
And yet I have Captain Tesario who doesn't know diddly squat about anything about my tribal lifeways and customs trying to tell me who I am because he read some book that's outdated and been been debunked for 50 60 70 100 years now.
Like no I live this. Y'all are just reading about it and you need to update your sources anyway.
Back Creek Stone. Dick log stone.
>> Yeah, the dick log.
>> Get out of here.
>> Yeah. I um I I asked that because I'm [clears throat and snorts] just like that. They saying all of y'all are gay.
>> Yeah.
>> And all of us are dead >> except for somehow the seinal.
[laughter] Wow. Okay. Cuz Yeah. I'm just So y'all just I guess spread out and y'all separate things. I don't I [laughter] don't understand. I Hey, Cap, I need you to holler at me on that one, man. Uh before we talk about MLK tomorrow, I need to know how all these different tribes make up make up that one tribe.
But yeah, that's that's heavy. That's heavy.
Uh, anything in closing, gentlemen?
>> Uh, thank you for the platform, for sharing the platform, and um, we're here to defend the faith at the end of the day. You know, that's what we're doing this for. We're not here to, you know, yeah, we had a little fun today, but, you know, we're not here to belittle anyone.
>> You know, we're here to defend the gospel. And anytime someone says anything that that contradicts the word of God, we're going to say something about it. So, and thank you again, DMG, for allowing us to do that here.
>> No doubt. No doubt. You You all have caught blanch. If you ever want to do something, uh, just hit me up and I will do likewise. I got to get Mr. Fox back on here. BK, you look, I'm I'm still trying to convince you to debate your board. Um, [laughter] so you know, uh, maybe maybe we can do a double header. You versus Jabari and and Phil versus Captain K.
>> That's crazy. [clears throat] That'd be wild. That that that would be must see TV. Definitely.
>> Must see for real.
>> I mean, >> just like BK said, man, you know, like I don't I don't hate anybody. I ain't any, you know, I'm not here to, you know, to disparrage anybody, but um and again, I I've told people on BK's platform and any every other platform that I've been on, you know, I'm I hate nobody. Uh and actually, I see the those who would would see me as against them, but I I see them as the mission field, not as the enemy. And so I don't hate anybody. I'm not trying to hate you and you have the right to believe whatever you want, but when you start to discourage my people and try to weaponize real life traumas that people go through and are going through uh for your benefit to line your pocket in the pocket of your leaders because that's not cap. That's not that's not try to BS around it. That's really what this is all about. It's about lining the pocket of Yuana. It's about lining the pocket of Nathaniel >> and and putting more money into the upper guys pocket and letting all the runts do all the hard work and be out there acting foolish, spreading this this garbage while they're sitting pretty riding on white horses with no shirts on. [laughter] >> [clears throat] >> you know, >> and uh you know, getting getting drunk on the Passover.
So, >> hey man, you didn't tell me you didn't tell me how how ruthless uh Mr. Phil Fox was, man.
>> Bro, it it's in his name, bro.
Defeats the enemy. That's his name.
That's his actual name.
That is my [laughter] >> that's what my name translates into. My >> you know my theme song is my >> You know my theme song and my core saying is my name is my name. So >> yep >> there it is. Listen y'all. His name is his name. Mr. Fox will be back. I can't tell tell me how to say your your your uh your name that I'm referring to.
>> Mahihagadesh.
>> Mihagadesh.
>> Yeah. Mih.
>> Mihagadesh.
>> Yeah.
>> Shall return, family. And next time we going to open it up for the panel if he if he up to it and see what questions y'all got. You got to keep it respectful though. You got to keep it respectful.
Cap, I'm talking to you. Mhm.
>> Right.
>> That being said, BK, uh, let me know about the Black Church Files. Uh, for those who haven't seen it, we we had Damon Richardson on the first episode.
>> We had B Wash, the humble scholar on the second episode.
>> Coming up this week, this Thursday, we got Pastor Trey Williams sitting down with my man LP. He is also a pastor.
We're going to be talking about church accountability, which is what LP advocates [clears throat] for as far as the church. When it prime example, a girl get teenage girl gets pregnant, they call her up and admonish her in front of the whole church >> and in in most instances compounding the situation she or exacerbating the situation to a degree that she already dealing with mentally.
Church hurt is what Trey always talks about because a lot of what we see in the rejection of Christianity is due to church hurt. I I can vouch for that myself. But with that being said, you you set yourself up for some for a whole a long road to hoe in a lot of cases because once you go down that road and you let that hurt, start to um indicate how you how you engage with with the church and with the gospel, you can go down a rabbit hole that's hard to climb out of because you got to continuously justify why you are where where you are mentally. So again, it's going to be an interesting show. Hope y'all tune in for that. Black Church Files episode 3.
Church accountability and church hurt. How do we reconcile the two?
Hey, [clears throat] we will be back at it, family. Mr. Phil Fox, BK apologist.
We gonna have him back on soon.
Hopefully, we'll be getting BK and Jabari in the ring.
>> Till next time, y'all. We out of here.
This That's peace. Thank you.
>> Peace.
>> I told you I wasn't stepping.
>> I ain't disrespecting you, son.
>> You wanted to be by me.
What? You wanted to be that way.
The other way.
[music] >> Yeah.
>> [music] >> Funny how everybody love the B till the judges say they lost. [music] Funny how everybody claim they want smoke [music] till the score cards come across.
>> My name is my name.
[music] >> Everybody gangster when the verdict go their way.
Taking victory laps. Posting on [music] social media all day. All day. But let them catch a L. Now the judges all [music] corrupt. Corrupt.
Now the rules wasn't fair. Now the platform messed up.
When you won, [music] it was justice.
When you lost, it was real.
When the spotlight was on you, man, you danced a little.
[music] >> Funny how the narrative changes overnight. You a scholar on Monday [music] by Tuesday ready to fight.
>> Y'all don't want accountability. You want applause. [music] Want championship treatment without championship fly. [music] See debate ain't about feelings. It's about evidence, argument, and skill.
Sometimes [music] you climb the mountain.
>> Sometimes you fall down the hill. You [music] want it to be one way, >> but it's the other way.
>> But it's the other way.
>> When you win, it's all [music] love.
>> When you lose, it's another day. You want to be another way, >> but it's the other [music] way.
>> The same you praise last month.
>> You wanted to, [music] >> but it's the other way. The facts don't bend for feelings. [music] No matter what you say, my name.
>> The hate got me left. It really tell the story. If the platform wasn't working, [music] why they obsessed with my glory?
Every week somebody got an opinion to proclaim, but they still tuning faithfully. That's repromotion of the name. [music] Parad shift TV314 still standing while critics in the comments keep demanding and demanding. See the infamous perspective giving viewpoints to breed. [music] The black church files digging deeper than was seen. The chem take over bringing coaches to the floor.
The GT perspective asking questions [music] they ignore. Here you get many choices. Ladies night giving divas voices. Different minds, different paths, [music] different truths. Reaching the elders in the youth.
>> One way, [music] >> but it's the other way.
>> You said the platform needed you, but somehow [music] you still stay.
You want it to be one way, [music] >> but it's the wrong way.
>> The show keeps moving forward even after people stray. You want it to [music] be one way, >> but it's the other way.
>> The audience decides not the stories that you made. [music] My name is >> I've seen the come and go. Some legends, some pretenders. Some became champions.
Some became [music] contenders. Some accepted losses and came back even stronger. Others spent six months complaining and being bitter even longer. Everybody want to run a platform. Everybody [music] got advice, but very few know to sacrifice or willing to pay the price. Fight facts, [music] challenge you. Give the people real discussion. Not excuses when you lose or whether they applaud or whether they complain. [music] One thing remains forever.
My name is my name.
[music] You want it to be one way, [music] >> but it's the other way.
>> My name is my name.
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