Dr. Dubrow provides a sobering reality check on the dangerous intersection of elite medical expertise and the high-stakes absurdity of modern vanity. He effectively strips the glamour from viral trends to reveal the precarious balance between aesthetic innovation and life-threatening risk.
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Well, think about this. Guys that have operations, penile augmentations, or penile operations. They have that and you know, in the next morning the doctor comes in and the the tip of the penis turning blue. What do you think you do?
>> You got to get a You got to No, you got to get a gay leech.
>> [laughter] >> You got to look at the leech and be like, "Dude, that's fail."
Yeah, it's funny cuz my my son just called me. He goes, "What are you doing?" I said, "I'm doing Stiff Socks podcast." He goes, "You mean Trevor Wallace and Michael Blaustein?" I go, "Yeah." He goes, "Oh, [ __ ] Seriously?"
You should have brought him. That should have brought him, dude.
>> He says, "Say hi to you guys." He That brings me so much joy. I've had parents in a meet and greet say like, "You know, my kid couldn't make it. He's off at college or whatever, but like he's so jealous of you. Can we send him like a FaceTime video or video?" I'm like, "Fuck you and your parents." And then they're always like, "You don't know how much like you just earned me with them."
So, we're we're bringing families together.
Yeah, you guys are huge. He [clears throat] stooped down to our level. We we made him go to the valley.
When was the last time you were in the valley?
>> So, I grew up in the valley.
>> Oh, what part? Okay. And as soon as I graduated high school, I went to Van Nuys High School. I'll be honest with you. I made a vow to never come back to the valley.
>> Yeah, unless [laughter] you're flying private out of the Van Nuys airport.
>> Which I, to be honest, I do. Yes, you do. I do. Hey. Okay, so you've done How How many surgeries would you say in your life do you think if you had to put a number on it?
20 to 25,000, probably.
>> 20 25,000?
>> Yeah. I don't know.
>> I almost wait for this. No, it's good for the audio. Okay.
>> [laughter] >> So, I did I My training was really long, by the way. I did 7 years of general [clears throat] surgery training with all the trauma and the gunshot wounds and the cancer and the heart heart surgery.
>> And you're like, you want to get shot if you put a BB in it.
>> [laughter] >> Exactly like that.
>> Like the but like the pit is it Like cuz I heard uh like doctors have like commented and be like, "Dude, that's exactly how it is." Is it really how it is? You know what? ER docs don't do all that kind of stuff. As soon as it gets heavy, they call the surgeons now.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. That's That's the ego of a surgeon. I love it.
>> true though. Someone's got a gunshot wound, we go to the ER docs, you're done. Okay. All right. Go go back Really? So, it's kind of like when you have the dentist and they have like the nurse do it.
The I don't know. The the person before the hygienist That's right. The dentist pops in, gives you a little shoulder tap and is like, "You look good, kid." And you're like, "My teeth are all right."
You know. And he puts the gas and touches you.
>> Right. On that show, you know, someone has a stab wound to the heart, they'll put the rib spreaders in and fix the hole. Yeah, it's gross. ER docs don't know how to do that. Okay. So, you got 20 to 30,000 surgeries.
>> Yes. Just by glimpse, if there's any work you could do by me, what would you do? What would you change? Let me give you a side profile.
Is it the nose?
No, the nose is awesome, man. Yeah, is there nothing? I mean, well, you look great. I mean, you're actually you know >> is [ __ ] Oh, hold on. Let's just say this is the PR answer.
>> the truth is I If you came in to me and said, "What would you do?" I'd say, "What bothers you?" Wow. Right?
It's not about me. It's [clears throat] about you, right? And if you said, you know, you actually have a very symmetrical face. Your your face actually really works. You hear that, Hollywood? Yeah.
>> That's awesome.
>> It's true. And what about him? What would you change? I mean, >> Besides my personality.
>> It's a scalpel, [laughter] not a magic wand, you know. No, I'm kidding. No.
Both you guys obviously have great faces and great hair and you guys have got it got it going. Oh, man. I don't like this hair. I want I want you Okay. Besides me being 5'8" and have a tiny What else would you change?
>> Both.
>> What they do in Elizabeth? Both. What?
They do They You ever heard of the Ilizarov procedure?
>> No, but does that make my my fingers longer? No, it's leg leg lengthening.
You've heard of this. Did they phone to ask you?
>> Don't they have to like break your leg and then the the clavicular method? Yes.
>> your thoughts on clavicular breaking his jaw every single day? It's small. The bone smashing. It's the biggest load of BS ever. It doesn't work. It doesn't do anything. He talks about this Wolf's law, this idea that if you put enough pressure on the bone, it'll grow in proportion to the pressure.
That's BS when it comes to using a hammer. That only works if you're you know, if you're doing the Ilizarov, that works. You fracture it, you separate it, it'll fill in and you'll grow.
>> Oh, hold on. I'm so sorry. I thought they broke the shin and then put something in there.
>> And then they And then yes, and then they have this In the old days, you used to have to wind this thing on the outside.
>> vomit. Okay.
>> Now, they have this thing that actually causes it to distract. It's called distraction osteogenesis. So, as it's Thank you. As it's distracting, it's filling in with bone. The bone fills in itself?
>> It does.
>> What is this human body we have? That's insane.
>> And the one that you used to crank, was that a one-time thing or you had to plug it in to crank? Like if you had a bar and it was like, "You're short." And you're like, What about now?
>> That's exactly right. Now, you Bluetooth it. Oh, no.
You They got a USB-C.
What what what what's the most fascinating uh implant you've put in somebody?
So, I mean, you know, it's the weird If you think about how crazy what I do is for a living, think about this. If someone would have told you 30 years ago, "Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we take a girl and cut a big hole in her chest in her breast, lift it up and throw some I don't plastic in there and give her bigger breasts." You go, "What are you, insane?" They actually did that. The first case of that was in the valley right here in Van Nuys. Porn stars like dudes. These two dudes did If you ever want to see it, it was called Breast Men on HBO.
>> Okay. Starring the one of the guys from Friends.
Anyway, I mean, it's such a crazy Half the stuff we do is basically body modification and human experimentation till it becomes a thing.
So, so you're saying the the first breast augmentation happened in the valley. The Yes, in the United States.
>> In the United States.
>> Yes. And what would So, now it's probably the the the procedure the procedure's way more sophisticated, I'm assuming. How did it start and where where are we at now? So, back then you could kind of get away with just doing things. Now, you'd be sued and people would say you're doing human experimentation. But back then, you go, you know, a plastic surgeon go, "Well, based on this concept of putting you know, we put other you know, implants in the face, why don't we put one in the breast?" And they just started doing it. And it didn't work very well at first because it got really hard. The immune system would fight it and reject it. Now, we've got a lot more wired. It's a very precise operation.
We've got implants the body is okay with.
>> And now, can't you go through the nipple? You go through the Well, the problem with going through the nipple is there's the sort of bacteria in the >> And then when the baby breastfeeds, it's like The most common way is underneath. But it's about 60% underneath, 40% through the nipple. Is there a way to do it where there's no uh scar? That's what I'm asking.
>> So, for a while it was done through the belly button, but you can only put a saline one in through that. But a couple guys, one of whom was a plastic surgeon in the valley, was doing it through the belly button. It was called transumbilical breast augmentation.
>> Okay. And he you put this tube in and then you shove it through that and he put the tube in THROUGH THE HEART.
>> YEAH. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? LIKE CUPID?
>> [laughter] >> SO, so here and then in each one? In each one. And he feed in and then you blow it up with saline, right?
>> So, he So, he they the person died? Yes.
It's happened a few times. So, it's not as popular.
I'd love to do yellow teeth. How did you How did you miss that bad? Well, >> You can't see in there. You didn't hear about this case that was like [snorts] a month ago? This general surgeon went in to take the kidney out. He was going to do a left nephrectomy for a diseased kidney and he took the liver out by mistake.
>> Which honestly, if you ask me, I'm not good at playing Operation. I would do the same. I'd be like, "Which one's which?" Yeah, well, one's like huge and the other's about size of your fist. How How Where did he go to Where did he go to medical school? Like Midas? Exactly.
Well, he he actually just got convicted of involuntary manslaughter cuz the patient died. Yeah. What a dumbass. I mean, I would change involuntary to voluntary, you dumb [ __ ] How do you take out >> You're so reckless. Yeah, you're such a [ __ ] Who gave you your medical license?
>> Oh my god.
>> Well, he was on like Vicodin and and [ __ ] White Claw, probably. You this stuff You'd be surprised the stuff that doctors sometimes can do. It sort of blow your mind. I mean, I could tell you stories.
>> Please. Please. And and and and I want I want to hear all these.
>> I actually had a TV show called License to Kill. It went two seasons. It was on Oxygen. It was about when doctors go off the deep end.
Think about it. If there was someone who knows how to kill you without you having any idea that we've done it, it's a doctor. I'm in. Friend your back for 30 seconds.
>> Yeah, of course.
It went two seasons.
>> get hit men. Or somebody could be like, "Here's my husband." Wink wink.
>> Yeah. Well, we know how to give you stuff that like you'll have a cardiac arrest, but there's no trace in your body. Like what? How do they do it?
Someone take out the notes app.
>> Potassium. You give enough potassium.
You eat too many bananas? Exactly. SO, IF SOMEONE WE SHOULD DO A PODCAST.
>> [laughter] >> POTASSIUM? YEAH, if someone's like, you know, in the hospital with an IV in, instead of giving them antibiotics, you throw a bunch of potassium, that'll send them into arrhythmia.
>> I hope no nurses are listening to this show right now.
>> Well, there were a few nurses on my show License to Kill that were busted.
Ultimately, there was >> how did they get caught? Uh a bunch of people wherever they worked would die.
And then they'd leave and go to another place and a bunch of people there would die. It was like a pattern. Were they getting paid to do this? Why were they doing it? What's the What's the motivation?
>> They all had their sort of psycho I mean, you know, these people are I mean, this clavicular guy is a nutty guy. Give him some potassium, huh?
>> I mean, think about what he's >> Or crack. Think about what he's doing. I know. He's mixing what? Crystal meth for appetite suppression. Yeah.
>> Has he ever heard of Adderall? God damn.
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>> [bell] [clears throat] >> So, what what else is you you were kind of you were about to list what he's doing. So, do do we know what he's all doing? He's doing the the bone Yeah, sorry. Yeah. Okay, so it's all about, you know, looks maxing. I call IT DUMB MAXING.
LET'S START A BEEF. SO, I KNOW. SO, they have they chew this gum. Was that chew maxing? That's supposed to hypertrophy, you know, your Does that not work, though?
>> not work.
>> It doesn't? They have They have a whole chew thing, though.
>> Okay, okay. Question. A friend of ours, Matt Rife. Great job, very well known.
And he I saw in a clip he goes, "I just chew a lot of gum." Is that That Well, I mean, that's why he's got a big mandible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's funny people didn't used to want to have big mandibles. We used to put Botox in there.
>> To take it down?
>> To take it down. That's like a thing you do.
>> are changing. People now want gigantic butts. 30 years ago, no butts.
>> By the way, how stupid an operation is that?
>> Gigantic butts?
>> Yeah, who thought of this? Let's take fat from your abdomen and shove it into your butt. It's the stupidest idea I've ever And by the way, it's near it's the most fatal operation in plastic surgery.
>> And why is that? Why? Potassium? No, there's Okay, so in your butt, there's these short kind of wide blood vessels that are very closely connected to the main vein going back to your heart, the vena cava.
>> Oh, no. So, our ass is connected to our heart?
>> Yes. No wonder I love ass.
>> That Okay. Honestly, the best joke of so far.
So, if you inject it by mistake into one of those blood vessels and it gets into the main vein going back to your heart, and it goes to your lungs, you die. Yeah, that's why you shouldn't get it done at like David's Bridal in like somewhere in Europe. It used to be one in 3,000 people die. That's very high for an operation.
>> they also smell. Is this confirmed?
You know, Or maybe they maybe they What do you mean you heard?
You mean you smelled? No, no, no, but like didn't like Offset was saying about Cardi B like, yeah, her her her BBL smelled. Well, Really?
>> big you can't wipe everything.
>> That's exactly right. It's a hygiene problem. Get it? [ __ ] If it's By the way, if they're so big, how do you get back in there and do the thing? That's why you have an assistant. THAT ASS.
RIGHT. THAT'S REAL THAT'S REALLY like all it boils down to. It's not like the material smells?
>> No, because it's your own fat put in your own tissue. So, if you call somebody with a BBL a fat ass, that is It's accurate.
>> It's diagnostic.
>> Oh my god.
>> [laughter] >> My problem with the BBLs is they need a a BBL they also need the thigh cuz it just stops, and the ass looks like an airpod, but like they If you're going to get a fake ass, you need a fake leg.
>> It looks So, so cohesive. I think it looks I think it's the weirdest operation.
>> thing is you have to sit on a different seat for like a week.
>> You do No, you have to stay off it for about a month. Yeah. You know, sleep on your stomach. I saw a whole thing Kanye West was out with his wife, and she was carrying her BBL pillow that she'd sit on at restaurants. That's right because if you sit on it too much and it doesn't get its own blood supply, cuz it's like taking a plant from one soil, the abdomen, putting it in another soil, right? Another part. If the plant doesn't get irrigation, if the if the fat doesn't get blood, it dies, and it turns into fat necrosis and hard lumps.
It's a disaster. And by the way, it can die anyway, even if you do it perfectly and you don't sit on it, a certain percentage of it will form hard fat necrosis sort of tumors.
>> So, what's the shelf life of a BBL? Is there like is is it endless if it does well? If Okay, once once either it absorbs or it dies, once you get it to take, it's there forever. The problem is you see these people these 30-year-old women, 28-year-old women. What are they going to look like at 60? Not great.
They're going to look like a melted candle. They get 10 lbs No, it's going to be so huge, and you know, grandma with this giant [clears throat] butt. It's going to be like the Eddie Murphy movie.
Luckily, grandmas were still Yeah, yeah. What is that where he's a big Yeah. Guys, No, YOU'RE PROFESSOR.
WHAT YES. NO, you're professor. No, you're professor. Yeah. Um that's that's so that's so >> operation.
>> Can you dissolve it? NO. NO.
>> WHAT? SO, TO GET IT OUT, YOU HAVE TO You have to suction it.
Yeah.
You wouldn't want that job. What?
Suction it?
>> Yeah. You want to You want to siphon ass?
>> I thought you liked ass that much.
>> to suck ass fat.
That sounds like an internet hate comment. You suck ass fat.
>> a new side career. Okay, I have a question. I feel like when I was in maybe middle school or high school, like if somebody got a tummy tuck, that was like the talk of the town. That was the only way to lose weight. Ozempic is flying through the market. Are tummy tucks even still a thing? Yes, because tummy tucks are when you've lost weight.
Right. Skin. Skin. Mhm.
>> Or you've had many kids, and the muscles have separated.
>> nothing Don't you Don't they like cut some of your staple something? What you do with a tummy tuck is you make a big incision hip to hip, lift up THE ABDOMINAL WALL, >> [screaming and groaning] >> TIGHTEN THE MUSCLE IN TWO LAYERS, pull down the excess skin, and all the skin from the belly button down you remove it.
>> And what do you do with it?
>> Yeah, what do you Where do you What do you make a bag out of it? This is my Birkin. You uh No, you throw it away. Ah, you can't throw it away. Trash can at the hospital?
>> have to do a special sort of hazardous waste thing. You pay a lot of money. We surgeons pay a lot of money to throw that stuff away. If you throw it, you know, in the trash, you can be arrested for that, actually.
>> Yeah, I mean, you can't a raccoon's going to eat ass. Like, you know, you can't Yeah, it's not That's not good.
>> So, are tummy tucks Are people still doing that, or are people just going to straight to Ozempic and GLP-1?
>> So, because of Ozempic because of the GLP-1s, they're more common now because people have lost weight, so there's more loose skin. Oh, [ __ ] So, it's a one-to-one. Yes. So, we should get in the tummy tuck business. It Yes, or any of the weight loss, you know, operations now. Yeah.
I I'm By the way, I'm obsessed with these GLP-1s. I could talk about this all They're awesome. Really? Well, look Can I ask you this, though? Is this one of those things that is the fad, and then in in 70 years everyone's like, "I can't believe everyone was taking GLP-1s. Now everyone's a lizard." Like something weird. It's the best invention in history of medicine Are we sure because cuz I guarantee you the guy YOU'RE TALKING TO HOLD ON. I JUST LET ME GET MY POINT. NO, I know. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. No, not necessarily.
But you think Don't you think like the the gentleman whoever invented like with the leeches on the thing back in 1400, I think that guy stood on a apple box in the town square was like, "This is the best invention ever." And then comes to find out it did nothing. Do you know Do you know get my point?
>> We still use leeches in plastic surgery.
Shut your mouth.
>> All the time. Really? And what do you So, if you're doing an operation that lifts up a lot of skin, Yeah. and you're moving it from one place to Like, for example, let's say you do a big breast reduction or a big breast lift. You remove all the skin, lift the nipple up, and the nipple the next morning is blue because it can't get blood out of it. Do you know what you do? What? You put leeches on it. To put to Like cupping?
It Exactly. Oh, my >> For blood.
Yes, it's super effective.
>> So, where do you go? Petco to get these leeches?
>> to 1-800-LEECH-USA.
You're lying to me. No, you can Google it.
>> people make money in this day and age is crazy. I'm going to get into leeches.
Yes. And it's weird because >> [laughter] >> this this leech nurse appears out of nowhere cuz they have to be a Sorry, I'll say it nicer. Oh, oh, oh, yes, yes. Yeah, the nurse appears out of nowhere cuz you you need it like when you need it, you need it right now. You have like 6 hours to get the leeches on.
She puts the leeches on the area, they attach, and then they suck the blood, and then when they get full, they fall off. And then they inject an enzyme the leeches inject an enzyme that makes you bleed for like 2 days cuz that's what you wanted to do. You want it to bleed to get the blood out.
>> Dude, could you imagine being that woman? You open your eyes, you look down, you're like, "What did they do with my areola, and why is it a bug?"
Well, [clears throat] think about this.
Guys that have operations, penile augmentations or penile operations. They have these that and, you know, the next morning the doctor comes in, and the penis the tip of the penis is turning blue. What do you think you do? You got to get No, you got to get a gay leech.
>> [laughter] >> You got to look at the leech and be like, "Dude, it's It's hard to get them to detach, I will say. It's hard to get them detached? Well, on when they're on the penis. Buddy, can you imagine being a dude and looking down and being like, "Where's my dick?" It's just a bunch of It's a bag of bugs.
>> I know. It's It's freaky. Goddamn.
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Goddamn. [clears throat] Speaking of Botched, I mean, what a great show. What Is there one episode that you still think about, or one surgery that you're like, I still can't believe this was brought to me, or pulled off? So, I have We had a patient who, you know, people get fillers, right? And so, they want it in their butt, they want it in their face. Well, Oh, the wrong type of lip filler.
>> They want the wrong type of lip filler, the plumping parties, right? Plumping parties, right? You go to a hotel, and some madam is there who went and got some illegal filler substances. So, there was this one in Florida. Up. She went to a Was it on an island?
No. Off the coast [laughter] of Florida?
No. She went to a plumbing supply store, and instead of getting she got caulking material.
>> No, dude.
>> Which is like concrete, right?
>> Yes. And she didn't tell the people, and she said, "Oh, yeah, I'll do your butt augmentation. I'll do your" And she allowed people people allowed her to put concrete caulking material in their face. And at first, it works, right?
>> Who's caulking?
>> Yeah, who's caulking, right? But then, after a short period of time, the immune system says, "What the hell is this?"
>> Yeah.
>> And it starts laying down scar tissue.
>> drywall?
Exactly drywall. So, on the third season of Botched, we had this woman come in who had these elephant man sized nodules Can you see? all over her face. Her right Her name was Rajee. R A J E E. I have to see this. And so, everybody turned her down.
See Rajee Botched. There you go.
Okay. Oh, no. Look at that one. Yeah, that one.
>> That's all from That's all from that foreign body put in.
>> Dude, she looks like those AI fruit videos.
>> Right. Is that Is that Is that caul- Is that the caulking thing you're talking about?
>> material. Yeah. So, everybody turned her down, right? No one would take her on because the problem is, if you try to remove those, >> Yeah. you're going to you can kill the skin or the nerves below it, and you have a worse problem. Yeah. And everybody was afraid that the immune system was going to overreact. So, I we turned her down the that season.
>> Sure. But between seasons, I woke up at 4:00 in the morning, and I thought to myself, I I know how to do this safely.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> No. Yeah. So, I thought to myself, instead of taking the entire mass out, take the central 2/3 out. So, at least it lays flat. Yeah, okay.
>> Okay.
>> So, cuz you can feel your bones.
Correct. It's like concrete, right? So, I took my buddy's orthopedic saws. My buddy My best friend's orthopedic surgeon, my mid school roommate.
>> Okay. And I I sawed out the central 2/3 of all of those masses. Okay.
>> And Dude, she needs to meet up with Dr. Miami.
>> Look at her on the left Yeah, like the left. Yeah, go over there.
>> Yeah, like the Is that how she looks like now? Yeah.
Oh my I mean, you did a phenomenal way up. Way better.
Yeah. So, that was sort of my biggest fix. What What made you Were you thinking about that before you went to sleep, or you just like woke up?
Weirdly, every single night practically, when I would lie over and I go, I just can't believe she has to walk around.
She's so sweet. And you know, you can't go anywhere, you can't get a job, you can't date, you can't do anything when you look like that, right? So, I I just had an epiphany. I remember I actually remember what time it was, and it was like 3:38. I thought, "Why do I have to take the whole thing out? Just take most of it out, and leave the top and the bottom." Cuz if you leave the bottom, you're not killing the nerves.
If you leave the top, you're not destroying the blood supply to the skin.
The skin will survive, and it worked.
That's so worked. I did a few, you know, I took a couple out, and Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's probably a slow process, you know?
>> slow process, but that was her the next morning. Look at that one.
>> What are some of the I mean, you you changed this woman's life.
>> Yeah, that was good. I mean, how how appreciative was she? That's what I was going to say. Yeah, I was going to ask you like, I mean, how appreciative like you know?
>> What are some of the ones that you guys turned down on Botched? We turn down So, every episode, we turn one patient down.
Sure. Because they're either have unreal ex- unrealistic expectations, or they're crazy. Yeah. Or it's just too dangerous, right? So, if someone wants to go bigger, they've got, you know, giant breasts, Right.
>> and their areolas have super dilated like this.
>> grow with it.
>> Cuz those grow with it. And they said, "Can you reduce my areola?" Yeah, I can do do that if you'll let me take your breast implants down. Oh, it's a one-for-one.
>> Yes, and they go, "No." I say, "Well, we're turning you down cuz it's not going to work."
>> Right. Or if they've had 15 operations, and they want a 16th one to be perfect.
>> I I have a question. I don't want to get you in trouble, and you can say no. Are there any celebrities that you see who just have awful plastic surgery? And feel free to say I'll be honest with you. So, I think celebrities are having really, really good plastic surgery right now. The only thing I would say is is that some of them are with these new kind of facelifts that we're doing, some of them their face is different. They're changing.
And, you know, sometimes, like you look I don't want to name any particular celebrity, but >> Bradley Cooper.
Okay, that's male. We can talk about Let's talk about male plastic surgery.
Let's talk about men, cuz men Zac Efron.
This Okay, the same plastic surgeons doing these A-list females, and doing a great job, are doing these A-list males, but they're doing it wrong. That's why they look so weird. And what's the difference?
>> Okay, so a woman, you can't really over feminize a woman. Oh, interesting. Wow.
Okay, okay, okay.
But like look at Look at you guys, both of you guys, young, great looking guys, but you both naturally have a little hooding lidding on your upper eyelids.
You just do. I've heard about this, where where you go for a couple CCs, and they're like, "Well, did you want to fix your chin, too?" And you're like, "My chin?" Like, "Well, yeah, your left ear." No, but think about it. Look, he has a little excess upper eyelid skin.
Don't raise your brows. Okay. Just look at him. SEE? OH, WOW. OH, [ __ ] HOLY [ __ ] NO, that's called I'LL GIVE YOU 20 GRAND. IT'S CALLED BEING A MALE. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.
>> have that, okay? So, if I take either one of you right now, and take all that skin away, which you do on females, you're going to look completely different and weird instantly with a 20-minute operation.
And so, they're doing female plastic surgery on these men, and changing their face forever. And are they showing them like a before and after of like what they could look like, or are they just like, "Do what you did for so-and-so?" I I I don't know what they're They're probably telling me, "Oh, the recovery's nothing.
You're going to look great. I hope it leaks out, so everybody knows I did you." You know?
But now, you know, you look at these guys, you go, cuz I mean, look Okay, everybody's been asking me about two people recently. And I'm not saying they've had plastic surgery, right? But everyone's asking me about Jim Carrey Yes. and Bradley Cooper. Look at the upper eyelid skin on Jim Carrey, right there.
Well, I think the Jim I think the Jim Carrey one, that that was proven that it wasn't him.
>> No, that is No, that was BS. That is him. That's not It is him.
>> It's him. Oh, no.
>> Yeah.
So, if you look at the upper lids, Oh, I see what you're saying. Look Look at that one. That's good one. Where's the upper lid You know, it's just you need upper lid skin. Or look at Bradley Cooper. But why is his eyes different color?
Yeah, I don't know. But believe me, that is Jim Carrey. Trust me. Okay.
>> Okay, look at Look at that one on the left. Look at Bradley Cooper. That one.
>> He look Yeah, you're right. He looks more feminine. I mean, you don't want to feminize Wow, wow. You're I mean, obviously I'm not like Of course you're right, but you're right. Like it Look at the eyelids.
>> I know. He looks like a woman. Yeah. Oh, no.
>> See, I have this theory.
Certain guys who are feminine looking, who are pretty, can have, like you, can have plastic surgery, and they look great. Rob Lowe, Stamos, um Brad Pitt.
>> Brad Pitt, his facelift looked awesome.
These are feminine looking guys. So, you're okay to do feminizing plastic surgery on them, cuz they're pretty. But you take a guy like, you know, Brad Bradley Cooper is sort of a Can you imagine you do that to to Clooney? He'd look See, okay, look at the Yeah, he It worked on him. And whoever did if he was done, left some skin of his upper eyelid. See, they didn't do they didn't blow it.
>> dude, he looks >> If you took all that skin away from his upper eyelids, he would look unrecognizable. I mean, he is so hot, it's unbelievable. And he got that facelift, and he it looks so good. We see before and after real quick?
>> looks great. Wow.
>> bro, early early Brad Pitt was something.
>> But look, look at the after on the left, if that's an after, and look, he's tons of upper eyelid skin still left. Right.
>> So, the surgeon did that was very aware, "Hey, man, I'm not going to feminize this guy."
>> Yeah. I mean, hot. Jeez.
>> You'd go there, huh? If you're into that?
>> Oh, if I'm into that, I would go there even if I'm not into it. If he presented himself, would I say, "No, oh no, I'm okay, Brad Pitt"? Sure, dude. God damn.
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Ends June 28th at 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time. God damn. [clears throat] What about the people who do like the body modifications where they put like horns in their forehead or something? Is that bad for you? Well, >> to go to hell.
>> [laughter] >> What about splitting the tongue?
>> The split tongue. See, back in his single days, if he ever saw a nice lady, maybe on Raya or one of these dating apps, or maybe just an website where people might be naked. Yes. He might Google a split tongue thing and be like, "This >> What about scarification? People who want to put purposely have scars put on their body. No.
>> Or or a guy came in to botch one of his nipples removed. Why?
>> Yeah, cuz he just wanted them >> He's a swimmer?
You know, tits on a bull, what's the point of them on a man, right? I mean, so he wanted them removed.
>> He wanted he wanted them gone. And of course, we said, "Yeah, no" because it's not an accepted procedure, but it's weird, these body mod guys, we all think they're freaky, right? But we plastic surgeons body modified people until it became accepted procedures. So, I don't think it's really that I mean, when you look weird, that's one thing.
Wants pointy ears you know, it's What do what do you think What do you think the surgery of the future So so so BBL is like the newest big one, whatever. What do you What do you think the one in 10 years is going to be? Is there any like feel on that?
>> Yeah, I think where we're going for sure, where we hope to go. Well, plastic surgeons don't hope this, but this is hopefully where we're going with AI is Do you believe So, I went to med school in 1980 I graduated 1986, okay? If you would have told me in 1986 that in 2026, which is what, 40 years later, you're still going to be taking a scalpel and a scissors and cutting open the face and disrupting the blood vessels and the nerves and then pulling it back, cutting the excess off, and stitching it closed, I go, "No way." 40 years from now? 40 years from now, 2026 will be lasering, we'll be doing skin tightening with machines, with energy transmission devices that put collagen in or tighten the elastin or whatever. And it's still pretty barbaric that we cut, pull, cut off, and stitch. Look how crazy that is.
>> And and I'm ignorant to this. Is that still how they like they >> That's how we do it.
>> Literally the the most simple way to say to facelift is like you cut and just pull the skin back?
>> Oh, not only that, we do it deeper now.
We go into deeper layers. We as We used to do it like just the skin and a little bit of fat. Now, we go below the muscles, right where the nerves are to get a longer-lasting result. It's even more dangerous now and more barbaric than it ever has been. So, I we do have these devices where you go right? And you apply to the skin and try to get the skin to tighten up, but they're not they're just not very good yet.
Oh, so so that's what you're saying, the the future thing >> That's the future of plastic surgery.
>> find guinea pigs for that. Yes, but that's that's the future of plastic surgery. Lasers and radio frequency and all that kind of stuff.
>> So, effectively, if I'm if I just need to clarify, so you're saying that in the future there will be no there will be no cutting >> hope so. lasers and everything sort of just to do it internally without cutting. Yes, or deliver energy to get the skin and the the sort of the architectural structural, the proteins to tighten up the way they are when you're younger. So, is there that that's so fascinating. Is Is there anything you can do um before you do like a facelift or whatever? Like Like if you're like, oh like you know, the retinol and diet and all that kind of What about the masks girls wear that's white with the red lights? Oh, yeah, those are good.
>> Eh, they all kind of meh. They all kind of sort of work. Obviously, right now the hot thing is the peptides. Yeah.
>> And do they really >> Please. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So Sorry, so two two different questions.
>> What is a peptide?
>> So Oh, sorry.
>> No. Well, a peptide is >> Someone's mouth shut. A peptide is amino acids put together, less [snorts] than 40 short chains of amino acids put together. That's a peptide. And a whole bunch of peptides put together is a protein.
So, collagen is a big protein molecule that's in your skin that holds your skin together like glue. Well, those are made up of little amino acids.
So, you can take amino acids, and just as long as they're below 40, they're called peptides and they're not completely illegal. Otherwise, they're drugs if they are more than 40. And you inject them in the body and they signal to some organ to do something, right?
So, a peptide, GLP-1 is a peptide.
And that's in the Ozempic category?
>> is a peptide. Insulin's a peptide.
Growth hormone's a peptide. Those are all FDA-approved peptides.
>> FDA? Yes, but then there's all the other peptides that we're all experimenting with. They're all these short-chain amino acid drugs that we're injecting based on rat data. Right? Based on nothing, you know, and saying You Every Every gym bro and every chiropractor and a lot of doctors are online going, "You need GHK-Cu. You need BPC-157, TB-500, Wolverine to heal your injuries." You By the way, some of it kind of sort of works, but they're not Pharmacies don't make them, so you have to go to black market, gray market, China. It's crazy time right now.
>> How do you know what you need? Like is there like a you you give blood and they go, "You need Oh, you're deficient in XYZ, so you need these peptides"?
>> Well, if someone said to you, "Hey, you know, you're 38-year-old woman said, 'Hey, you want your hair, skin, and nails to look better and tighter, go inject this in your belly five times a week. This is called GHK-Cu.'
And you go, 'Does it work?' And they go, 'Oh, it works.' No one knows if it really works or not.
>> it's the front of it right now.
>> Yes, it's the wild, wild west. It's the weirdest time >> also getting a little bit where like steroids in a gym locker room, cuz I see this guy on on Instagram, he literally posts on his story, "Peptides, hit me up." On Instagram.
>> that way. So, is that illegal? It's so sketchy.
>> Steroids work.
They have a lot of side effects, but steroids, as you know, trenbolone, you know all the cards are >> I took D-bol. I took a whole D-bol. Did you really?
>> Yeah. I was in college. It worked. I went from like 150 to 162 straight muscle. Dude, this and I'm like not big. It is huge What are these called? Traps or whatever. Just walking around looking like an idiot. It worked.
>> Yeah, it worked. I mean, look at clavicular.
>> [laughter] >> Started taking it what, 14, 13?
>> Steroids or D-bol? Steroids.
>> testosterone. Yeah. Got you. Which is steroid, which is the most common steroid, most effective steroid. So, you know, with these peptides, at least with steroids, they've been around long enough. You know they work.
The problem is where are the gym bros getting them? You know, where are they made? You don't know. Yeah, like Wuhan, probably. Probably.
>> [laughter] >> Probably. That's terrifying. I just feel like peptides are moving so fast that >> They are. people are just doing them and then researching you're like, "What did I just put in my body?" That's exactly right. And what's going to happen 20 years from now when we're growing third heads and cancers and The The big theoretical concern with this Wolverine, the TB-500, you've I don't know if you've ever heard of this, but it's huge, is that it supposedly causes angiogenesis, new blood vessel growth.
If that's true, that's great for healing your injuries, but if you have sort of a an occult tumor, a hidden tumor somewhere, and you're feeding it with more blood vessels, it's going to speed up its So, no one really knows. It's the weirdest time in the history of medicine right Do you think some of these peptides will actually be proven and and work and do what they say? The problem is is that to do a real human study, like you do with you try to get something FDA-approved, it's like a billion dollars or two billion dollars. So, Eli Lilly spends that money, you know, a pharmaceutical company spends that money, then they get patent protection, and they get to sell it for 30 years before somebody can knock it off.
>> Jesus. These peptides, no one's going to test them because you can't get patent protection on them. Oh, what Hold on, why? Why >> Because they're only cuz they're short chain there's like no nothing unique about them to convince the patent trademark office that this is so different unique give me a patent on them. They're They go, "No, it's just 39 amino acids put together." So, no one's going to spend any money testing these. Now, I don't want to get political, that's boring, but you know RFK Jr. is totally into these peptides.
>> you mean? What do you mean?
>> I know he's such I know he's such Anyway, if you're so into these peptides, RFK Jr., spend a few billion dollars of the government's money and do some human studies and test them knowing people are going to use them. Yeah.
>> Instead, he's basically saying he's taking it from category three to category two, meaning you can start using them now legally. So, he's basically >> do you mean? Are doctors prescribing them or is it all [clears throat] like black market? Uh doctors are prescribing them. They are. I can write you a prescription for a peptide. You can take it to a compounding pharmacy which has sort of a kind of a a license kind of sort of. That's so sketchy, man. And they'll make it for you. And then that's the best way to get it. Get it from a doctor who knows peptides like I do. I don't prescribe them because I'm a little too high profile to be prescribing illegal substances to the medical board. Last thing I need is Harvey Levin going, "Hey, Terry, the FDA's suing you and you know, we're going to put it on TMZ. You want to make a comment?" [laughter] God.
By the way, it's funny when a guy like me gets sued, do you know how I find out? I don't get a process server coming in the mail or somebody coming to my house going, "Here." and handing this to me. I get TMZ calling me and they go, "Dude, you got sued." I go, "You're kidding."
They go, "Yeah." I go, "Shit." And I go, and how do they know? Because the clerks at the courthouses.
When a lawsuit comes by, they get 200 bucks when they call TMZ and say, "Oh, this celebrity got sued." That's how TMZ knows everything first [clears throat] before we even know. I'm reading that that Tiger doc and there's a whole I mean the back half of the book is all about how he got in trouble. But the whole thing is about like the chapters I'm in right now is the whole TMZ like how they have like like a crazy like nuanced network of like all they're like spies essentially like people that work valet, people that work whatever and they're Yeah, it's like 200 bucks for a phone call. Everyone's trying to make a quick buck.
>> What are some of the lawsuits you've been involved or people have tried to sue you over?
So, I I had I have one now. Oh, [ __ ] That I put in this woman says that 15 years ago I put this stuff in her breast, this mesh in her breasts.
And then 15 years later she had a problem from it. Some doctor operated on and goes He goes, "Who did your last surgery?" Oh, the Botch doctor. "Oh, I found this stuff in there." First of all, no one has any records Yeah, that's like when they find a phone in chili sauce. Secondly, I I don't put this mesh in. It's complete BS. So, they'd sent they She hires a a lawyer who sends to the wrong address this notice of intent to sue me and like try to get a extort me for a a settlement, but it went to the wrong address.
>> [laughter] >> So, I never got it. So, so they sued me and I'm on vacation in Florida actually getting on a private plane going to going to St. Bart's or something, you know, like one of those cool moments.
Uh Richard Marx who was a famous rock star from the '80s.
Me and my wife This is like, you know, we're on like a a Challenger 650 or something. It's like, okay, this is cool.
It sounds wealthy, dude. Yeah. And I get on all of a sudden, I look at my phone and it's TMZ and I go, uh-oh. I said, hopefully they won't ask me a question about some celebrity. I go, "Hello." And they go, "Terry." And I go, No.
>> [laughter] >> And I go He goes, "Yeah, you got sued, dude." And I go, "I did?" I go, "Can you wait till I land?" He go, "No, we're going to put it out."
>> [laughter] >> No. He goes, "What do you say?" I go, "Well, give me some details details about this thing." They go, "Well, it's this lady who says you put this stuff."
I go, "What?" So, I called my office. My office go, "That was 15 years ago. We don't have any records." So, it's a it's a total frivolous lawsuit. But at least I got to say to TMZ a comment that they put in the headline. Great.
>> So, you it wasn't just Botched Doctor, Botched Breast, you know. That was the worst thing about having the name Botched on your TV show.
>> Yeah. Think about that. It's like a show called Bombing and then the joke [laughter] doesn't look look good, yeah.
Totally. You know, by the way, Botched before it came out was called Nip/Tucked.
Oh, I love that.
>> Nip/Tucked, right? It was called Nip F asterisk K E D. Yeah. And we thought this is the coolest name for a TV show ever, Nip/Tucked, you know. And then like 4 days before the first episode was going to come out, we got a call. They go, "Hey, the advertisers didn't like the F word in there." And we went, "Oh, okay. So, what are they going to call They're going to call it Botched." We went, "No." Because it sounds like we're saying every time we would or or the doctor it was messed up by >> some weird way does get more people to watch cuz they want to see like you [ __ ] up and then you guys never do. So, they're like, oh, it's it's like a weird It is. We're worried about that the first mess up we have Oh, Botch the Botch doctor botched me. Oh, you know, the headline.
>> Of course. But it turns out to be this great name that people It's iconic. It's iconic. The show Nip/Tucked, what did that do for everyone's like profile in that? Because that was such such a massive show. That was kind of my first like idea of like what plastic surgery was. I was like a kid watching it.
>> I think it was the first show that popularized plastic surgery and it started the conversation. People became more comfortable talking about plastic surgery because back then no one would admit to anything. They wouldn't admit to breast augmentation, liposuction, Botox, nothing. And now major celebrities go, "Yeah, I had a facelift." Which is so smart, by the way. If you're going to look different, just admit it.
>> just admit it. Everybody goes, oh, it's okay. If you're going to admit it, who cares? I know. Who cares?
>> want to talk about your early days where you said you graduated in '96. The early days of being a >> 86 medical >> 86. Okay. So, the early days when you were in the ER and you're seeing What What's some of the crazy stuff you saw in that? So, I you know, I was chief resident in general surgery. So, you're you're you're a you're a You're like You're the final boss.
>> You're the man.
>> [laughter] >> Okay. So, I you know, when there was a big stabbing, gunshot wound, car accident, whatever, you bring your team down. You go down there with your whole team, you know. This is what the pit really should be. It's the general surgery team. And I remember these two quick story. These two guys, these brothers, okay?
One guy, skinny little brother, stabs his chuck chunky brother like 15 times.
Okay. And the chunky brother stabs his skinny brother one time.
Right here in the chest. And so, everybody they both came at the same time. They're going, "F you. F you. F you." Putting them in bed next to each other. And this is called a trauma run because somebody may die and you may have to emergently operate on them. So, it's like, okay, let's go. Bunch of multi stab wounds in the ER. So, we're all surrounding the chunky guy because he's got 15 stab wounds. It looks like he could go down any second. We have to open him up right there.
So, my team's descending on him starting IVs, putting the tubes in, measuring, getting X-rays. Okay, what's our plan?
What What's injured? Do we take him to the operating room? We open his chest, open his abdomen. Whereas the skinny guy, I go over to the skinny guy while my team's lining up the chunky guy with all the stab wounds. I go, "How you doing, man?" He goes, "I'm all right." And I go, "How you feeling?" He goes, "I'm thirsty. Really thirsty."
And thirst is a very significant sign of bleeding inside. Really? Sudden severe thirst. Really?
>> out. That's going to freak me out. Now every time I'm thirsty I'm going to be like, I'm bleeding. So, I go like this.
I go, "What do you mean you're thirsty?"
He goes, "I'm just really thirsty." And I go, "Okay." So, I grab what's called a thoracotomy tray which is this opening up the chest tray, okay? I pull it over and I very slowly open up the thoracotomy tray that has the rib spreaders in it, right? You remember he's got this little stab wound over the left chest. And all of a sudden he just goes and he goes flat line. Cardiac arrest. And I go, "Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa." to my team. I go, "Here. Here. Here." So, I go I spray him with lidocaine with a Betadine just to get some kind of antiseptic on him. I take this huge scalpel, cut open between the fourth and fifth rib, put the rib spreader in, spread the ribs, expose the heart and there's a single hole in the heart going I put my finger on it. Okay. And I go I look at my team. I GO, >> [laughter] >> AND MY MY JUNIORS, YOU KNOW, >> [laughter] >> your juniors are your support group, you know, your second year guys. I'm a seventh year guy. They look at me and I go, "Cool, right?" They go, "Yeah." And I go, "Okay. So, you take this special suture that has this very soft thing through it so that when you put the stitch on one side of the hole through the other, it leaves like a little Q-tip so it doesn't tear through the muscle of the heart.
>> Okay. So, it leaves like this and I I put it in and it went from to stopped.
And I look around and I go, "That's your A."
>> [laughter] >> Look what I did.
And you know, beep beep beep beep comes back. We take him up to the operating room, wash him out, you know, make sure he doesn't have any other injuries, close up his chest. And I remember 2 weeks later I'm post call. We've been up all night operating like crazy. And I hear this Dr. Dubrow. And I go I look over at this guy and it's him walking out. Oh, cool.
>> He goes to he looks at me and goes, "Thanks, man." I go, "Yeah, no problem."
>> [laughter] >> Oh my god. And my my team looks at me like and I go we go It was just yeah. God damn.
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>> [clears throat] >> So, how do you do all that at a night at work and then just go home and like you're like, "Yeah, it's it's bullet cereal." It's the coolest thing ever. I feel like nobody can relate to what you've seen. Like that's So, you're But like is it weird just being able to save someone's life like that then you're also just like at a restaurant that same night like is it weird just like how intense your work is to just normal life? Yeah, you know Or it just becomes normal to you over time.
>> if you put me on stage to do stand-up, okay? Remember the first time you did that? Of course. Freaked, right?
Freaked, all right. Okay, now you do it, it's what you do, right? And you're still a little nervous probably getting up there with particularly with new material, but but it's what you do.
It's what we do. And we do it, you know, training in surgery is so intense, right? We used to work 20 we used to work 148 hours a week. There's 168 hours a week, right? 20 7 * 24 is 168. We would be awake working 148 of those. So, How? What What kind of Peptides are fueling that.
>> Cocaine. Surgery. The surgery The adrenaline of learning how to be a surgeon. It's like yeah.
It's you know, it's very similar I'm sure to being in combat except you're not in danger. Mhm. But you are a little bit in danger cuz if you blow it, the next day or once a week we have this thing called morbidity mortality conference where the professors sit back. You've probably seen this on TV shows. The professors sit back there, you tell what happened this last week, how many people died, how many emergency operations, and they critique you. Ugh.
Yeah, no lawyers are allowed there and they're going, "Why don't you just kill the guy, man?" You know, they Yeah. So, you're you know you're going to have to face the professors the next day. So, you're totally immune to any of that.
>> You're you're Well, you're except you could get fired if you blow it, if you're incompetent, but it's it's scary, but totally cool. Do you feel like a lot of surgeons have like this like god complex type of thing because you're like you're literally said to your point like you're like saving people on a daily basis and then you go to a restaurant and like the valet is not running fast enough. You're like, "I saved 75 people today." I bought I think a lot of dicks go into surgery.
So, if you're a dick going into surgery, you're just a dick surgeon, right?
So, it tends to attract a certain kind of personality, but you know, it's funny.
I was in There was a 2-week period 2 months ago or 3 months ago where I go out of I I like to go out to eat. Yeah.
I like to eat.
>> Nice restaurants. That's my favorite thing to do, right? And like in a 2-week period, two people choked on their food.
In a 2-week period, two people. And I I walk up to one and I did the like Heimlich Heimlich and it didn't work and I went, "Uh-oh." Cuz if that doesn't work, then you got to theoretically slice their neck open to get an airway.
>> steak knife.
You do that, [laughter] right? You've got like >> [clears throat] >> 4 minutes. And so I went twice and it didn't work and I thought, "Am I really going to do this in this restaurant? Am I really going to lay this person down when they when they pass out and slice their neck open?" And I went I went, "Oh, [ __ ] it." I just went and then boom, it came out. Ugh. And I saved their life, okay? Pay my bill right now.
>> Yeah, I was going to say play something you got to play.
>> way, bingo.
>> Yeah, good. Yeah. So, hold on. I'm at Mr. Chow's, Beverly Hills. If you haven't been, it's amazing, okay? And she sits back down, she cries, and then they got it got it together and uh actually kept eating after that. You would think the night would be over.
>> Oh, I'd be like, "Let me get oatmeal or I'm going home." I'd immediately get on the phone with TMZ and be like, "You guys got this publicity, right? Yeah, it was covered on TMZ. Hey, here we go. So, I thought, "Okay." So, I sat back down and my wife I'm looking at my wife, I'm going, "Yeah, you like that?
>> [laughter] >> You want some of this, honey?
A little of this and action later, baby." And so I thought uh and the check came and I thought, "Okay, you know, [ __ ] no.
>> there'll just be a fortune cookie. There won't actually be a bill cuz they're going to take care of it. Nope. Didn't even comp. Not only did they not pay my bill.
>> back in her mouth. What the hell? Mr. Chow's didn't comp my meal, either.
Wow.
>> So, a lawsuit of somebody dying in the restaurant or one free meal? Well, that's a good point. There's a thing called the Good Samaritan law.
Oh. So, is that like where if you are trained and in the area like when they're on a plane like, "We need a doctor."
>> That's right. There's a law in it certainly in California. I'm probably in most states by now.
>> If you're equipped and >> If you don't have If you've never met the person If you don't have any duty to the patient, you can't be sued theoretically for malpractice.
>> I didn't know that. Okay, good.
Obviously, if it's super reckless, they would still try to sue you. If it's reckless, if it's really stupid what you did. Right. But you they wouldn't be able to >> He's choking, hit him with a chair.
Yeah, that's what [laughter] >> What And what was this lady choking on?
Um I think it was Szechuan beef, yeah.
Cuz a big ugly piece of beef, yeah.
>> Szechuan pay my bill. I mean, are you are you insane? The They just went back and sat back there.
"Thank you so much."
>> And so TMZ heard about it and a week later I was coming out of um The closet.
>> Mr. Chow's.
Sorry, it was there. I just took it out a long time ago.
>> [laughter] >> I was coming out of Mr. Chow's and the dude was there with the TMZ thing and he goes, "Hey, Terry, I heard that you saved someone's life." I go, "Yeah, I was a little The problem is you always want TMZ to interview you when you're going into a restaurant, not when you're two martinis Ugh.
THAT'S WHAT TMZ WANTS.
>> They want Terry a little boozed up.
You're an unplugged [laughter] [ __ ] when you come out, right? Yeah, I said that bitch's life.
Yeah, headline. And you could see you go on TMZ and see it. I I go So, this is what happened. Yeah.
I might have been three martinis. So, I go I >> [laughter] >> I I go, "Come here." I take my wife and I go, "This is what I did." I go I go, and it didn't work and I go, and it didn't work. And then I go, and it worked. And I go, and they [ __ ] didn't pay FOR MY MEAL. NO.
>> [laughter] >> NO, YOU DIDN'T. YOU NEED LIKE A YOU NEED YOU NEED a card to go back to Forever Chipotle has like a card for a life. You need a Mr. Chow's card for >> Thank you. I don't think so. And then it comes out of TMZ and I would think Oh, sorry. I went to like Mr. Chow's like a week later thinking they're going to not allow me in or are they going to comp my meal? One of the other. Nothing. Didn't bring it up.
Yeah.
>> Damn. Damn. And then maybe 7 nights later, I'm in another restaurant.
I swear to god the person at the table next to me chokes on And before you say anything, you go, "Are you going to pay for my meal?"
>> the deal here? Don't >> [laughter] >> Don't dine and dash. Don't choke and dash on me."
>> Choke and dash. That's great. So, Same thing you had to do the the Heimlich?
Heimlich totally worked. Great. Did they pay for your meal?
>> What? There's another one?
>> Again? Didn't pay for my meal.
I know. They probably thought you were like some like godsend like angel like you weren't even just sitting there.
>> Well, what's weird is I'm at Mr. Chow's for the first one and you know, you walk in, you wonder is anybody recognize me cuz you know, I'm a a C-list celebrity.
So, I'm you know, my level you're going, "Who's recognizing me today?"
>> [laughter] >> Right? And so I walked Beverly Hills, are you kidding me? All these people Everybody who's ever got any augmentation on the body you're like, "That's the goat right Well, so of course you know, >> [laughter] >> no one turns around when I walk in. I go, "Oh, this is not fun. No one knows I'm Yeah, this this restaurant sucks.
And so you start choking for the attention? Three tables over, this person chokes and all of a sudden EVERYBODY GOES, "HEY, DR. DUBROW, GO."
AND I WENT, "OH, NOW YOU'RE WILLING to you know me."
Yeah.
Oh, no.
>> Yeah, somebody film this. Put it on Snapchat.
>> Yes. So, Has Has [laughter] that ever happened where you someone's you know, whatever and you're looking around you're like, "Can another doctor do this? I'm I'm tired." By the way, that's a really good So, when you're on an airplane and this has happened to me twice, okay?
You're on the airplane and all of a sudden is there a doctor on Is there a doctor on >> in movies. This is real?
>> Oh, this happens. We got a peanut allergy. Let him die.
>> Whatever it is. Is there a doctor?
Excuse me, is there And we're like flying to Paris or something with wife and I. And I got my So, my wife is next to me, of course. Oh, no, we're And her sister is on the row over in first class.
So, her sister looks over at me and goes, and I go Yeah.
No, I'm on six vicodin and three martinis. I can't even I don't even know where I am.
>> It's a flying bar.
>> [laughter] >> It's a flying bar, yeah.
So, I go She's looking at me like, go over there. I'm going, "Shut up. Shut up." Because on a typical flight, there's probably like four doctors, right? And yeah, usually. Yeah, so I go I go and I don't say anything and then another minute goes by.
Is there a doctor on board? And she's going, "Are you to go over there?" I'm going, "Shut up. There's other doctors here. Leave me alone." Yeah, there's a chiropractor right there. He's fine.
>> Yeah, but there's a medical marijuana doctor somewhere. Right, cuz the last thing you want >> Pepper? [ __ ] do it. Right, is you're flying, you know, over an ocean, 2 hours away from the nearest airport, and you've got to like sit here in the galley, you know, pumping oxygen to this person for 2 hours. You If you're on it, you're there. You're like you're That's what you're doing.
Yeah. You're there until they're like in a hospital. You're like >> till they land, right? So, I don't And finally, she goes, "He's a doctor." And I'm thinking, "You bitch."
>> [laughter] >> So, I get up. I go, "Okay." So, I go back there into coach. Okay. Couldn't have happened to a nicer >> disgusted.
>> [laughter] >> LET THE POOR BASTARD DIE. And then I walk back there and I want to say, you know, "Backstage pass. Okay, I'm here."
Anyway, cuz I was And so, I go over there and there's like four guys attending to this really sick-looking person.
>> Oh, no.
>> So, I walk up to the first guy. I go, "Hey, what kind of doctor are you?" And he goes, "I'm a dentist." I go, "Go sit down, man." All right.
>> He's like, "Shouldn't have a cavity, [ __ ] Move out of the way." Right. I And then I go to the other guy. I go, "What kind of doctor are you?" He goes, I'm thinking, you know, be be a like a real doctor so you can do this >> [laughter] >> so I can go back to And he goes, "I'm a radiologist." I go, "Go sit down."
>> [laughter] >> And then I go to the third guy. I go, "What kind of doctor are you?" He goes, "I'm a chiropractor." I go, "Okay."
All right. And you're here? And then the last guy who's tending to this person who looks really bad. I go, "Hey, what kind of doctor are you?" He goes, "I'm an ICU doctor." I go, "Bingo."
I'm going back to my seat.
>> [laughter] >> Dude, that's awesome.
So, back to my seat. I'll have another cocktail. Oh, that's [laughter] awesome.
You have the chiropractor working on your back in first class. Right, I know.
You're in cardiac arrest and he's you know, Dude, what a great story. That's That literally sounds like a setup for like a like a bar joke story or something. It's like five doctors on a plane [clears throat] like Right. That's Oh my god. And what what was wrong with the person?
I think he was He was diabetic. Ah. He was sick before he got on the plane and he still got on the plane for a long flight.
>> long flight.
>> And he probably had an He was sick. He gets on this flight and just like let's see if I can make it. And I know that that I went back there to see him like a 45 minutes later or something and he's in the gal That poor ICU doctors back there doing starting IVs, doing this thing. And I go, "Are you okay?" He looks at me like they don't have anything. I go, "Yeah, it's a bummer. I'm going back to my seat." Oh, no.
>> I mean, you know, Yeah. What are you going to do? What are you going to do?
What am I going to do? Throw him in the ocean. That's what I would Here's your olive. You know, take a little bump off your nose. Pull him there.
>> [laughter] >> Can I ask you the most interview question ever? How did you get into all this? What was the impetus for you to like become a doctor like in first? When I went to college, I I didn't know what I want cuz no one in my family was in health care or anything. And my stepfather was a plumber. I had no idea what to do and someone said to me I go what I was a good really good student. I go, "Well, maybe I'll What should I do with my life?" Someone said, "Be a dentist."
So, I said, "Okay." Cuz dentistry is kind of It's a nice career. They do well. Good job security. So, I went to college to be a dentist. But then I volunteered for a dentist for a day and I went, "Oh, god. This is >> see why you guys are so suicidal. Yeah, yeah, >> [laughter] >> this is exactly Monday morning, 55 white guy dentist kills himself. That's like the the pattern.
And I go, "I just I don't want to do this." So, I volunteered in the emergency room at Yale-New Haven Hospital and I went to the the hospital there in the ER and I walked in and man, the the residents were like the young, smart, studly, confident, cool dudes and I loved the smell of the hospital and all these gunshot wounds coming. I go, "Okay." And you know, you can see my personality sort of right for a high-energy thing.
This is everything. So, >> And so different from dentistry.
>> Yes, and so >> of a worse cavity? Exactly, right. This person shot in the head with a bow and arrow.
>> [laughter] >> What is the most mangled you ever saw somebody show up to the emergency room?
Um you know, the worst ones are the are the the jumpers.
YEAH. [snorts] OH, NO.
>> BAD. The jumpers. Oh, no.
>> Because they come in alive but there's not a lot What you want is a penetrate Those are called blunt trauma, right? Blunt trauma it you know, it contuses the heart and the lungs and there's nothing you You want holes to plug, right? That's the best thing to save someone's life. So, penetrating injuries, stab wounds, gunshot wounds, those are like the cool Stop the bleeding, take the organ out that's damaged, you know, whatever you need to do and they recover. But when they jump from five stories, every it's just all internal and you try to keep them alive but there's not like you can take them to the operating room and open them up and like fix a contused liver or something unless it's bleeding. Yeah, that's sort of the worst. Motorcycle injuries can be really >> My mom was ER nurse for a while and that's what she said. Like she called them she she called them GOLDEN SHOWERS.
OH MY GOD. WOW. YEAH. [clears throat] Those are bad, too, because they not only have they have multiple fractures and the same kind of blunt trauma but they get the head trauma really badly, too. So, okay, maybe in a in a lighter tone, what's the funniest thing cuz there's like been all these reports where it's like a guy gets like a butt plug stuck in his ass or a light bulb.
You ever seen anything funny? So, we had a drawer. Okay? Oh, like at TSA when they take all the weapons, you guys have like a BUTT PLUG DRAWER?
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
And it was like, you know, you when you take a you know, a a medical student's touring various hospitals to see where they want to do their residency there.
We'd always take them by the You always see the drawer, kid? Yeah. And see, you open them. They go, "What's that?" And you go, "What do you think it is?"
>> [laughter] >> And so, you know, you'd have I remember this one guy came in and I'm going to see him and I go, "So, I get called down in the middle I'm like an intern.
And the ER says you've got a patient in room three or whatever." So, I go over there and I go, "So, what's the deal?" He goes, "Well, you know, I I can't I can't poop." I go, "Okay." So, I'm thinking, "Why did they call me down?" I go, "So, take some, you know, some stool softeners." He's like, "No, it's been going on for a few days."
I go, "Well, any Do you have a history of anything?" No. And then I go, "Okay."
So, then I get closer to him. You think I'm making this up but I'm not making this up, okay? And every surgical resident has this kind of story cuz it's true. His name is Richard Gere and then what happened? Right.
>> [laughter] >> The gerbil out his ass. Right. No. And I walk up to him and I go, "Well, let me examine your abdomen." And he's slightly tender but as I get I sort of take my scalpel and listen to his, you know, his abdominal wall with a stethoscope not scalpel, stethoscope.
Yeah. No. He had a a big giant vibrator up his butt.
>> And it was on? And it was on and it was It was so you know, it got it went up too far and he couldn't pull When he talked a little different. He's like, "There's nothing wrong >> [laughter] >> Right. RFK.
What are we just figuring it out?
Cheryl, what are you putting up there?
So, I go So, I said, "What's" He goes, "You know." And I finally go, "Dude, do you have something up there?" He goes, "Well, you know, maybe" At first they deny it. You go, "Why why Why are you here?" Yeah. So, ultimately, I I go to examine him back there and it's too far up. You can't pull it out. You take a proctoscope in there. You reach your hand and it's too far up. Reach your hand. That's what he wanted you to do.
>> [laughter] >> No, he's been doing that already. And so, we you got to take those guys to the operating room. No.
>> Yeah. So, you take him to the operating room.
You open up their abdomen.
>> Oh my god, dude. And you push it out.
Right? You grab cuz you can feel it, right? Right on It was it vibrating the whole time? I think by the Yeah. That's like real life operating room.
Yeah, it's it's totally [clears throat] on. It was totally on. Of course, it was It was, YOU KNOW, FOOT. OH, GOD. GOD DAMN. [clears throat] GUESS WHAT, ladies and gents? You know what time it is.
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It's better h [clears throat] [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] [clears throat] e l >> troop just a little bit, and they become just a little deflated and a little droopy, they still look amazing, but you'd be surprised how many times they come in for a consult. I want my old breasts back. You go, believe me, no one cares that they're slightly droopy and they're a little deflated, they still look amazing. I think probably that. This I have a I have a question. I don't know why I'm saying it like that.
Vagina surgery, where we at, and is it Is it real, and what do they do, and Yeah. All of it. There's a a number of sort of newer things you can do. You can put a device in there, which sort of heats the surround I told you, the future will be of the face. You'll energy transmission will take There actually is effective ways to do that with the vaginal area. And what what is that doing? It's shrinking everything up. It's a lot easier to shrink up mucosal tissue, like the tissue inside of your mouth, rather than skin.
So, >> Right.
>> Yeah. And there's operations that people are very good at that can tighten the whole vaginal area.
>> So, is it like tighten like making the I don't know how to say this without being crude, like where the penis goes to make it tighter, or like >> or like Okay.
>> So, that's what Okay. And is this like a post-birth thing you would do?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. And and and labial surgery, you know, sometimes it gets stretched out, and women are a little uncomfortable with that. Yeah, that's a very common thing. Jack asks, is there such thing as a signature face, like a signature haircut?
>> [clears throat] >> I mean, I think there was a signature nose job Yeah. that people were having, and you knew you know, uh a signature face. Well, about 15 years ago, people were having too much filler, and they were getting what was called pillow face, where you really their faces were just very sort of filled up and pillowy. That was a very signature look that I'm glad is gone now.
You know, and I saw this maybe about 10 years ago. I felt like everyone was trying to look like Sandra Bullock.
Yeah. Everyone was was trying to look like a a deer. Yeah. In a sense, these bigger eyes and this this like kind of nose that like looked like an elf a little bit, and everyone had that. And I always had the I always had this thought where I'm like, is is it like a haircut where place where you walk in and go, "Hey, let me get a number four"? Mhm. Or but but everyone did it.
>> It's true. And then for a while it was Kate Middleton people wanted to look like.
Um no, you You actually can't do that.
Your Your Your facial features are really in your bones, and unless you're really carving up bone, you really can't make someone look like somebody else.
Otherwise, everybody Think about how many people would walk around looking like Kim Kardashian if they could.
>> But they But don't they But don't they look like that? Like I That was That's I think that's what this generation is.
>> So, Kanye's found his new wife. Yeah, that's true. I think she looks like probably like Kim Kardashian anyway. He probably likes obviously that look. But there I must say, there are certain things you can do to make people look better, but it kind of neutralizes their own features. Like, if you look I mean, I can think of three A-list stars right or not A-list, but high-level stars who you know right away I'll tell you after who have obviously just had facelifts and they look amazing but they're pretty unrecognizable.
I mean what made them them is gone.
Absolutely gone. And it's it's but I mean could you imagine if you took Brad Pitt and you he looked great but you changed his face? Yeah. At all? And you'd just be thinking about his face the entire time. He's I mean how people discover you is how they want you to look forever. It's like when larger actors lose a lot of weight and they're on screen that people aren't even happy for them. They're like I miss old fat Jonah Hill. I miss this. I miss Adele.
Adele's getting a bunch of blowback, too. Yeah. But she looks pretty good.
Looks great. She looks great.
>> Yeah. But that's just weight loss, isn't it?
>> Yeah. But there is there's little tweaks that people make for their own benefit once they get a little bit of money or they like fix a smile or close a gap in their tooth. People are like oh we liked you because you were different because of that.
>> It's true. You look I guess Yep.
>> Yeah, unique and you also looked like a guy who doesn't care to be like this Hollywood glitz and glamour guy. It's like if you had gap teeth like we liked you cuz we felt like one of you.
>> That's right.
>> they're like [ __ ] you I got veneers.
>> I know. Now it's over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Um so do you watch The Pit and what do you like and dislike about the show if you do watch it?
>> So it's a little more accurate than other medical shows.
>> That's good.
At least the medicine is accurate. I don't like there's a little too much you know ER docs are not suffering everything.
They're coming in, they're doing their shifts, they're enjoying themselves, they're actually having fun and they're going home. Well, these guys are pathetically EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT.
>> [laughter] >> I'M GOING REALLY? OKAY. Plug a guy's heart with one finger and then go to Mr. Chow's after.
>> [laughter] >> And then you know, they're just doing stuff that's way outside of the scope of an ER doc. They just do everything, you know, and uh I mean Grey's Anatomy, I remember there was a guy who was a general surgeon who would do neurosurgery, too. Never in a million years would a [laughter] neurosurgeon ever crack an open brain or do >> a show like that because you're like that's wrong, that's wrong, that's wrong.
>> The original show, the first season of ER, which was a show a long time ago which was like George Clooney and and and Noah Wyley. He was an intern on ER.
The first season I was like a third-year medical student at UCLA and we'd watch then go it turn this off. This is such BS, you know, they get me a chief get me this GET ME A STAT. SCALPEL. FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU YELLED at a nurse like that in the ER she goes [ __ ] you.
>> [laughter] >> Who are you yelling at, A-hole?
>> do a parody and do like the realistic version of it.
>> Right. Do they say the pit was real? Do they say stat?
>> Never. Really?
>> Never.
>> Oh man, if they If we would you'd be laughed at. Really?
>> Stat I need this stat you go you what?
>> Yeah. Do you say I concur a lot? Never.
Damn it. Do you even say scalpel?
No. You What?
>> Uh I'll take the biggest one. Scalpel.
Do you guys even wear lab coats?
I DON'T.
>> [laughter] >> YOU GOT BLOOD ON YOUR LEATHER SUIT, TERRY?
>> YEAH, I YOU KNOW, you don't need we don't say scalpel, either. We say give me a 15 cuz you got to say what size the scalpel is.
>> My whole life is a lie. My literal whole life is a lie. Yeah, and the OR by the way 90 for 99% of surgeons is like very light lively and you play music and it's like hey what's going on? It's like the locker room. It's very fun. That's my question. So the surgeons get to pick the music, right? Yes. We call the anesthesiologist the DJ.
That's oh [ __ ] Once we're scrubbed in we can't we go excuse me DJ would you mind putting on Yeah, cuz then he turns the wrong knob and gives them all Yeah, they're doing the thing. So so what's what's the music you like to listen to cuz I cuz I know like there there's some surgeons who listen to like like Metallica or something.
>> Yes. So there's what we call opening music and closing music.
>> great.
So opening music is you want something a little cool but not too heavy because you're trying to figure out the thing, right? And then when you figured it out and your goals have been achieved and now it's time to close it's like okay, let her rip.
>> Rocky soundtrack. [laughter] Right? So that's what you do. I like a lot of sort of chill cool EDM. That's what I listen to.
>> Oh, that's so cool.
>> Yeah. I didn't know this. That's so cool. Yeah. And then the and then the scrubs that you wear. So you're wearing scrubs, obviously. Do you do you get to pick the color or is it like surgeons wear this color and blah blah blah wear this color? I so I'm primarily an outpatient surgeon. So I wear my own scrubs. But you if you if you operate in a hospital they require you to wear their scrubs cuz they make sure they're clean.
>> So you know What are you rocking these days? Tom Ford suit? Louis up top, Gucci on the bottom?
>> All leather. So I'm a little more fit these days.
>> Yeah, you are. You look hot. So >> On the bags it says [ __ ] you, Mr. Chow.
>> [laughter] >> We love Mr. Chow. Right. So I'm a little more fit so I bought these pair of fit they're called fit uh scrubs. Okay. Fit What's even a scrub company? Anyway >> Scrub Daddy? No, there's a It's a scrub company.
And so you're good for blood. And it it shows my ARMS A LITTLE YEAH. [screaming] THAT'LL WAKE THEM UP. AND I walked in the other day and my staff looked at me and they went really?
What? They go seriously?
I >> [laughter] >> okay, never mind. And it's funny cuz the first two seasons or three seasons of Botch they wore these sort of loose scrubs and then I got once you're on TV for a while you see yourself a few seasons you go oh man, that's face for radio and body for >> [laughter] >> GLP-1 sand. So I go I got super fit like third season and so they bought me some fitter scrubs.
And what color what color you using?
>> Black. Oh, yeah.
>> color, man. Black.
>> You know I would love to shadow you for a day. This sounds so fun.
>> It's cool. It's cool. Yeah, if I was a surgeon I'd do I I would wear like like snake skin I would I would I would go crazy. Snake skin, dude. I would have like >> Patient skin? Well, >> [laughter] >> there was this there was this guy who did this TV show called Dr. 90210. I know him. That was a long time ago.
Okay. And he used to wear on this thing sleeveless scrubs. That's And we all went really? Bring a picture of that.
That's crazy, dude. You know, and then he would he would have weights IN THE OR.
AND HE WOULD DO LIKE, YOU KNOW, curls before he'd scrub in.
>> Diesel? Who is this? Dr. 90210. It was really dumb. Oh. Is that him? That dude?
Yes. He looks like a magician. I thought that was Chris Jenner. That's him now.
There. Look at the one on the right there. If I woke up and that guy was operating on me I would be like cool I'm dead or you put a vape in me.
>> [laughter] >> Yeah, it's uh But I mean probably worth what?
300 million dollars?
No.
>> Uh I have no idea. Mhm. We got one last thing.
>> One final thing.
>> Secret sock. Um my girl wants fake boobs. I'm scared she's going to leave me after.
>> [laughter] >> There's asking for advice. Very common.
Yeah? Yeah.
>> Oh, there's probably guys there, too, that are like go smaller.
>> So Interesting.
>> So if a married couple has been married for a long time for example the guy brings in his wife To a midlife crisis. You're going oh you I loved it.
You're going about to get divorced.
Cuz he's he's trying to save the marriage or make her more sexy and he's cheat I don't know what but that's a yeah, I think that's a concern I'll tell you because I mean I don't know if you guys are breast men or not. I I am. Yeah. If a girl goes from sort of not very much to nice full C cups for me I find them a thousand times more attractive when I was single, right? So I think and if you're not being cool to your girl and all of a sudden she's a lot hotter she may bail on you. By the way, I did a show in 2003 and 4 often considered the worst reality show of all time >> [laughter] >> called The Swan.
What is this? I don't It was on Fox after American Idol. It was a huge makeover show. I was the surgeon on the show. The Swan. That time slot is Okay.
And what is the premise on it? Okay, you took these ugly It was it was so misogynistic. You could never do this today.
>> Oh, yeah. This is like Shallow Hal days.
Yes. It we took ugly ducklings >> Oh, wait. If I was a TV exec back in the day I'd be so in. Ugly ducklings to make them swans. That's right. And >> Holy [ __ ] And we moved them all in a house together. Oh, no. Look the see that one down the left she won. I operated on her. That one.
That's what she looked like when I was done with her. Oh, wow.
>> Ducked out good. Yeah. I would like to see the before.
Yeah.
Um wow. So so the the show was in your guys' hands. They didn't have to do anything, right? They so they had to have an internal external transformation. There was a therapist and a fitness person. But it was really about You got G cups. There she is right there. Look at that before and after right there. Oh. Not bad, right? Wow.
>> Some subtle surgery but she looks different. It it is that I was going to say this the subtleties are great. Yeah.
It's yeah. So they call the show Chopped.
>> So they moved into a house together.
All of them. Okay.
And we'd operate [clears throat] on them and they couldn't see themselves for 3 months.
No mirrors, nothing? No mirrors. Even the spoons were matted.
THE spoons are matted?
>> the show. I remember this. You remember it? I'd be like I I must have been a little kid, man. Dude, even the spoons were matted. A puddle? What about a puddle? Well I was shining my shoes.
>> When we would when they would be walked to the gym a production assistant would walk them to make sure they didn't go to side mirror of a car in the parking lot and look at themselves.
>> hadn't seen themselves >> at all. So the final thing was So every week they would compete with another swan to see who made the bigger transformation. Okay. If you lost that you'd go home with all your plastic surgery and then if you won you stayed and the final thing was a beauty pageant where you compete against the other swans for who was the ultimate swan. But here's the thing.
The at the final episode, they hadn't seen themselves for 3 months. They'd walk up to this curtain in front of a mirror. The curtain would open and they'd see themselves for the first time at the big reveal.
And it was just crazy. Yeah. So they cuz I know reality show fakes lost of that's real. Like they literally did not see themselves for 3 months. I suspect they all kind of saw somehow get a glimpse.
>> could you know Yeah, you find you find a loose fingernail.
>> in here, but you could You find a loose toaster.
>> glass in a window. We figured they all knew because But it was pretty cool because for those 3 months when they were swollen and looking weird, none of them bugged us.
But I'll tell you three shocking reality shows. By the way, see the one on the right? I did that one, too. Second worst reality show of all time.
Called Bridal Plasty.
Great name.
>> No. Great name. Please walk me through what that means.
>> Okay, so all of these engaged girls would move into a house. They would compete each week in a wedding related challenge. If they won, they could have one plastic surgery procedure.
>> This seems more fitting for today's age than back then.
>> No, you wouldn't. Yeah.
Anyway, so they would move into a house and if you won the whole [clears throat] season, you could have a complete makeover by me. Okay.
>> But here's the catch.
They throw you a wedding, a big giant wedding. Yeah. But your fiance wouldn't get to see what you looked like until the day of the wedding when the veil is lifted.
Wow, can you imagine the reaction? Then he's like, "What the fuck?"
>> it. We did that show. That went one season.
>> [laughter] >> And this is like Pimp My Ride for people. This is crazy. They put a [ __ ] fish tank on her head.
>> I know.
>> [laughter] >> So I've done >> She's Korean now.
>> I've done some of the funkiest reality plastic surgery shows, but I've also done the best. Watch. Yeah, the body body race. So awesome.
>> Grace blessed reality show of all time for And and I mean I could keep talking about this forever, but we've we're going 2 hours or something. Okay. Um but yeah, we don't want to hold up your time. I know you got reservations at Tao's tonight, huh? Tomorrow night. Tomorrow night.
What time?
>> Hopefully this isn't coming out No, no, NO, NO, NO.
>> [laughter] >> WELL, I WANT TO KNOW SO I CAN GO THERE AND CHOKE AND WE CAN do a set it up a little bit. Like oh my god, we paid for my meal.
>> [laughter] >> If you prepay, I'll go with you. You could choke.
Um where can people find you online? Is anything to promote right now or just You know, I'm Beverly Hills plastic surgeon now. Um I I have a a podcast with my wife called Between Us about me and her and our lives together.
And uh we've we've got a YouTube channel called Dr. Miss Guinea Pig where we try stuff out on ourselves, experiment.
>> Yeah. And uh you know, we'll see you soon on Real Housewives of Orange County. My wife's filming it right this second as we speak.
>> Really? Yeah, I I appear on that occasionally. That's got to be fun to make a little quick cash. We'll see whether we do some more Botched in the future, you know, we might do an expanded version, so we'll see.
>> Dude, any anywhere I can ever shadow you for a day, I would love to. This You made it sound so >> me when, all right?
>> sounds fun. If there's ever like a ride-along job it would be it would be a day with you, Terry. That'd be awesome.
>> and meet my my kids, I'll do it.
>> Yeah. Oh, I would I would love to. I would love to.
Well, thank you so much. This episode was so fun. We appreciate your time and it was so fun. Thank you. Thank you so much, Terry. All right. Guys, that is it. Thank you so much for watching and listening to this episode of Botched podcast. Comes to Mr. Wallace and Mr. Botched on our tour of Patreon.
You know, go check that out. Free episode every freaking Friday for $5 a month. I said free and $5. You guys can understand.
That is it. We love you. I got a big old dick and now I definitely do because Terry's going to do it.
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