Nico Estévez & Rodolfo Borrell FIRED

Added: 2026-05-19

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[00:00:46]>> One 2 3 4 >> [music] [music] [music] >> What is going on everybody?

[00:01:16]Surprise. [laughter] Welcome in double firing live stream here on a Monday. Uh my name is Zach Graham, your host here in the North End, joined once again and as always by my good buddy. He's on record as my best friend. His name is Ian Misho and we call E.

[00:01:41]Folks, pay no attention to the fact that 16 hours ago we both sat here and said there's no way that Ralpho Burell is getting fired.

[00:01:53]>> Discard that. [laughter] >> Oh my god.

[00:01:58]>> How you feeling, my friend?

[00:01:59]>> Uh kind of still in shock. You know, I feel like the uh that one meme where the guy's like waking up and he's like, >> you know what I'm talking about? When you called me, I was like, "What the [ __ ] is I was going to say that's just reality.

[00:02:12]>> I was like, [laughter] what is happening? Oh my god. Um yeah, in shock. Obviously, there's a lot to unpack here.

[00:02:19]>> Um I I feel all kinds of ways about this, I think. You know what I mean?

[00:02:26]Some some good, some bad, some positive, some hopeful, some really concerned about how the second half of this season plays out. Now, >> you know, and we talked about, you know, this two-month break where you can hit the reset button and kind of start fresh, and we went all the way fresh.

[00:02:46]>> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah, we did.

[00:02:50]>> Think my audio should be better now.

[00:02:52]Ari's giving me sound a little off.

[00:02:54]Yeah, it's coming through my headphones.

[00:02:56]So, there you go. Uh, shout out to Ari.

[00:02:59]And with that, E, let's uh let's check in on everybody who's joining us live on our YouTube channel here in the chat. I heard Theorem was in here first said we did it and Pouyo Goyo's in here said he's been looking forward to the stream for about a half an hour now. Rey is in here saying just got done with the pod from yesterday and came straight here.

[00:03:21]See our special corella correspondent Jesse is in here. Aries, you know Aries is excited, right? It didn't even have to fly a plane.

[00:03:29]>> Right. There you go. And I think that like what I was saying to you before we got started was like >> almost everybody can come in here hating something about this. I think or like or excited about a little portion but not feeling great about another.

[00:03:47]Feeling great about everything but uncertain about the future. It's just it's a weird spot to be in because I look I don't is there anybody in here that expected RPO Burell to get fired >> maybe >> like again I think that if you want to have the conversation it's it's clearly totally fair but did any of us expect that and another thing that I was texting you about last night was like about Nico felt different with the fan base because even during the multiple seasons that portions of the fan base were ready for Josh Wolf ago, right?

[00:04:20]>> To me, until the very end, to me, that period of this franchise never felt as uh I guess overwhelmingly pulling in the same direction in terms of the fan base.

[00:04:34]I didn't see all that to say, I did not see one defense of Nico Estz and the job he did coaching this year. Um, which I think was was a it stood out to me as a difference. Not just because we were quicker to get to it with this coach than the previous one, but I just thought overall it seemed like everybody after Saturday night was on that same page.

[00:04:58]>> Yeah. I mean, it's been interesting with Nico right because it started almost at the very beginning where everyone was kind of underwhelmed about the hire.

[00:05:08]even you know we were underwhelmed about it and you know we talked about one of the big blemishes for Roto being the names you wouldn't believe and then you go out and get Nico from a rival club who just fired him who's got like a 35% win percentage over his career or something along those lines and you bring him in and you know we were we were as a fan base collectively looking forward to to moving on and the rebuild.

[00:05:38]We had leaned into that. We knew we were going to be shitty for a little bit here and then you bring in Nico and it's just such an underwhelming hire that from the start I think people were mad and like you know I've maintained and we have maintained that I thought last year was a success overall. Um but with the last five six weeks with what's going on with this team man it's just like you said where where do you keep your job where these are the results for the last six weeks?

[00:06:05]>> Yeah. Well, and there was multiple fans who at the time of the Nico hire weren't waiting in the waters of like underwhelmed who were just like this is a bad hire and it's a huge blemish on Rulo because he and then right then you get into fans having conversations about well is it be is it a budget hire right does Anthony Precourt have you know a huge say in was he the someone who was like, "We I want to hire Nico." Right? And you have those conversations to which you're just never going to know the answer unless you're inside that building, >> right?

[00:06:45]>> Let's obviously, again, we can obviously sit here and talk about this team for hours on end, just us two. So, I saw Mackie in here saying, "Right, it's the news you wouldn't believe today for sure." Our buddy Dave Smith in here saying, "Let's get the party started." D in here saying, uh, or Decorporatize, I should I should say the entire name there. He said, "Are you guys happy about Roto leaving as well?" I thought he did pretty well other than the Nico hiring. And I'm pretty sure that his hands were tied on that one. So again, right, that's getting right into what I was saying where it's like as a fan sometimes you're left to speculate about some of those things. But I'll let you answer that question as I do. E, for those who are tuned in here live, I have new toys that I'm excited to to play around with here today. [laughter] So let's go ahead and start this first poll. For those who are here live, do you agree with the firing of Ralpho Burell? All you got to do in that YouTube live chat, one for yes, two for no, and we'll see how the people feel here. E, in real time, what are your thoughts about the move?

[00:07:44]>> I I'm not happy for sure. I'm not happy about it. Um, do I understand it somewhat? Yeah. you know, and part of the reason why I'm not happy about it is you got to assume the new dude coming in here is gonna want to have his own vision for what the club is going to look like. And to me, that's going to signal you're going to be making a lot of changes here and you're potentially going through another rebuild when again, you know, some of the stuff that was said where it was like, I need three windows to get this team where I want. we passed that mark, you know, and we're not where we want to be. I don't think obviously with this with this, uh, you know, news today, it's pretty clear that nobody in the organization really feels good about where we're at right now. Um, but again, I just, you know, I said it, uh, I've said it plenty of times, which just like I think that the connections Roto has, the standing he has, I obviously news is coming out from soccer-wise now, and we're not privy to that stuff, of course, but of course there's people that he rubbed the wrong way or or didn't, you know, uh, get along with, what have you in the organization. So, there see, you know, we talked about the vapors and the odors, >> you know, I guess our noses weren't working. various voters.

[00:09:02]>> Yeah, because there was some real stink coming out of this, man. And like uh overall, no, I I I'm I'm not happy about it. But he hired Nico and it's insane to me that he hired Nico and that we just lost Ralph Oo Brell because he was tied to Nico's death. like you you hitched your wagon to that horse and like I that that is just absolutely insane to me.

[00:09:31]>> Yeah, I think again I think that's fair and again I'm through the first what has it been like 90 minutes almost two hours since the news dropped something like that. Um you know I think I'm I'm I'm surprised.

[00:09:46]>> Yeah, >> I would say I'm shock I'm shocked that Roto was fired.

[00:09:50]I still haven't gotten to a point where I feel like I'm upset about it. Um I think just because of the idea of a fresh start to me like I think that pleases more of the fan base than not >> and I think that's important in this moment.

[00:10:07]>> Um >> yeah.

[00:10:08]>> So again, but you you better you better hire a guy who's you know I think Roto is I I think you you would be hardressed to make an argument that he was not a good sporting director. I think you're just as hardressed to make an argument that he was anywhere above that given the results, given the fact like, of course, we're we're way into the salary cap stuff and and the rules and roster regulations, but how much more game do we have now than when he got here? I know it was way worse and he did some good things to to try to work us out of that, but it's, you know, we've just seen other teams be able to turn around and and >> flip their fortunes in a much swifter fashion in this league. Uh, and that's one thing that that I think is is undeniable that it's it's not even undeniable. It's it's not up for debate that Roto came in and said, "I need two to three windows and we passed that a while ago."

[00:10:58]>> Yeah. No, I mean, I I understand why some people are upset and um I but I'm still just I don't know, man. I I think the dude at least deserves two two head coaching hires. I personally, but again, you know, I talked about last night on the episode, >> did Nico deserve a healthy team in this season? Yeah, probably. But shit's unfair and if it doesn't work out, this is also part of the gig if you're an SD like >> Yeah. And like >> territory, >> right? If you listen to Soccer Wise, right, which we did uh before before we went live here and like if you've got somebody like Tom Bogurt saying those things, right? It's coming from somebody with knowledge of the situation. and like he's not going to put something out there Tom that is something out there like that if he's not sure that like this is an experience that somebody I trust had right >> um so there's clearly stuff going on behind the scenes that your average fan is not privy to um >> in situations like this I would also point to the fact that there's probably like another side to some of those stories y >> um but we just won't we'll just never know that. So, um, again, let me get through the chat here. We'll read the press release and then we can move on to some other, uh, uh, thoughts and conversations about this, right? Birdman is in here saying the work productivity [laughter] at an all-time low today with these with this news. Um, Carlin here saying the soccer wise crew destroyed Roto, saying it he was known as the worst chief soccer officer in MLS. Um, so again, yeah, I would I would also say this.

[00:12:33]Yeah, Doyle said that. I Which gets brings me to you can also when you go watch the Soccer Wash stream, you can watch the [ __ ] eatating grin that comes on to Matthew Doyle's face when he hears the news and like all of those national pundits who, you know, were paring X, Y, and Z are taking their victory laps now.

[00:12:53]>> Some with better uh uh arguments, I think, or reasoning than than others. Uh but yeah, not not shocked about that. Um Adam in here saying hire Gar Loggerway.

[00:13:05]Now that would certainly be uh somebody with MLS experience. Um the Leslie's are in here. So shout out to A at work. We never try to touch that stuff. Uh we see our buddy the new Ron Mexico in here. We need a reverse green smoke graphic. Um, Jackson in here would be hilarious to drop the green smoke song right now. So, I think I'm working my way to the beginning of the stream here in the comments. Uh, Josh was in here saying, "We're a real football club now." E and Scott saying, "This is really insane, but if they were going to do this, glad they did it now and not waiting until the end of the season." And I agree with that for sure. Um, because like you said yesterday, and we're far from the first people, right? I think clearly there are multiple clubs in MLS. We're the fifth team to fire their head coach already this season and like again we are not the only ones to point out that this is a unique opportunity in the middle of this season to push the reset button. Um I just didn't know we were double lever in the Austin FC offices, dude. And like also just heads up for the North End Faithful. We have also made a change here. We've fired our lever technician and we're going to work on hiring somebody new during the break this summer. Uh, Silverblade in here saying, "I was watching your podcast earlier where y'all were talking about Nico and Roto when [laughter] I found out they got fired." Yeah. So, that's, you know, again, just delete that part from your memory. Capricious saying Roto was a surprise to her. Shout out KP. Um, and yeah, I think that's I was my reaction was, "Oh my god."

[00:14:41]>> Yeah. Shocked >> when I saw that news come across.

[00:14:44]>> I mean, even, you know, even on the pod last night or whenever I don't even know what time, whatever that happened. Um, [laughter] you know, I said I would have bet money that Nico was going to keep his job, you know, and like I felt pretty confident that that was going to happen. And now you wake up and you get, well, some people might have woke up a little earlier. Um, now you get, you know, Nico and Roto out. And, you know, I, you know, again, I I think like what's the second half of this season going to look like for this team? Who's safe now? Anyone on this roster? Are is anyone safe now?

[00:15:18]Like I'm not shocked if if if you're shipping Owen out now.

[00:15:22]>> I'm sure >> I think how do we get >> I think Auni more so is is gone. Is that's done?

[00:15:29]>> You know I I is BV safe? Is Faku safe?

[00:15:33]Like are any of Do any of these >> Yes. And yes to me. But >> okay >> I do I do want to I do want to get to that. I I want to clear the chat here. I know I've said that for the last 10 minutes or so here. I did want to say P Mike saying y'all need to turn on super chats for the live streams and while we won't turn on super chats I will pull up the QR code on the screen right now to join our Patreon if you are so inclined so you can scan that now there's also a link in the description of the video or if you're listening back to the audio version that we will post on that feed uh and e we are sitting here uh I don't know a few minutes five six minutes after we posted this first poll sitting at 73% of the listeners here live saying they agree with the firing of Ralffo Burrell.

[00:16:19]So, I'm going to pull that one down. And as Ribonator said, hire Gar Loggerway now. I want to do this. Does the next Austin FC sporting director need to have previous MLS experience? And like that's something that some fans mentioned, right, with Roto coming in brand new to the league. Um, >> and I think it it it's really hard to make a strong argument that it didn't hinder him in his job coming in. And he's mentioned, right? He said that's it's taken me longer than I thought >> to get this roster, right?

[00:16:52]>> Yeah, for sure.

[00:16:53]>> So, I think that I think that's a good question for everybody to think about.

[00:16:56]>> Yeah. Uh, I I'm not really sure where I'm at right now. Obviously, I was super excited about the roto hire without any MLS experience. I'm upset that he's fired here. um you know and listening to Soccerwise them chat about like you know go to some of the organizations you like and interview you know their second in command or or someone involved in the front office and see what it looks like. Uh and then go from there. Um, again, I'm just I am very concerned for the second half of this season now and for a majority of this roster and like going through another rebuild >> just doesn't sound great to me even though things aren't great right now.

[00:17:36]>> Yep. Mariano is in here saying Roto and Nico were a package deal. Spaniards of a feather flock together to flock out of here. [laughter] >> So, thanks for tuning in Mariano giving us a laugh there. Um, and look, the one thing you didn't like we talked about uh yesterday, I think you said make Davey the interim, right? Or Nico Bosch or something like that.

[00:17:57]>> Said get rid of >> Okay. Yeah. Well, I know I said clean everybody out. And I do think that probably happens >> once you get a new because sporting director first, right? Then coach, >> and then everything else that falls into line behind that. Um, >> let's see. Uh, Tex constant Craig in here. Good to see Craig. Are there still names we wouldn't believe? Um, I don't know, man. I just want to win trophies I won't believe, [laughter] you know?

[00:18:25]Like, >> yeah, >> I don't know. Jose and here was in the middle of listening to the podcast, but had to pause it and come here. Um, okay.

[00:18:34]And this is where I'm getting on. One, one, one, two, two. Forgot about that part. [laughter] >> And, uh, >> go to the chat.

[00:18:40]>> Yep. Yep. Yep. So, scrolling, scrolling.

[00:18:43]Um, yeah. Text Constson saying he shouldn't have hired Nico. That was the nail in the coffin.

[00:18:47]>> And that's just so I think it's just so crazy to me that Ralph this is like a Game of Thrones like Walder Frey taking out the the the [laughter] snows. Like it's like how how or did we just let this dude get taken down by Nico? And I guess I mean it's not I guess he hired him. He did it. He's the one who brought this dude in. And >> from the beginning people were pissed.

[00:19:14]>> Yeah. from the start, you know, and then it obviously Nico only a year and a half >> gets gets that amount of time. But saw that Danny quote that we are Austin TV put up the other day >> uh about some dudes not knowing what they were supposed to be doing.

[00:19:30]>> Oh yeah.

[00:19:31]>> I mean that was that was that was big for me for sure, you know, for Danny to come out and say that. And maybe that's a bit of your answer to why he didn't start the other night. something brewing with that and some some sort of disscent up, you know, people being upset. But, um, >> I know that I'll also say this. I know that, you know, it's not just the fans who probably feel some fans who are feeling happy about this. There's some players.

[00:19:58]>> Absolutely.

[00:20:00]>> Absolutely.

[00:20:00]>> There's definitely some players.

[00:20:03]>> Look who's here. Our buddy Harry >> down. Hey, go Spurs go, my friend. Uh, said it's been a while since Harry was in the North End. Shocking news that both are gone. Keep up the great work.

[00:20:13]You as well, Harry. Uh, hey, who was who was y'all's coach when y'all won USL? Is he available? [laughter] JV in here saying should not have fired either of them. There was still time for improvement. So, I'll say this, JV, >> that was the you are the first uh defender of Nico that I've seen. I also >> I've seen I've seen a lot more push back and again not it's not the majority of fans but I've seen way more push back on the the roto move than than Nico.

[00:20:42]>> Um >> I'm only sheeping says I think it was more than just the Nico hiring. Well yeah dude Bard Savovich exists and what if he turns into a player now?

[00:20:54][clears throat] [laughter] >> I'll I'll I'll try to make an MLS team if that happens. [laughter] I'll start training for six months.

[00:21:03]Oh man. Uh yeah, Armando said Rodalfo also tied to Auni. Torres I I got no problem with Faku Torres.

[00:21:12]>> Yeah. No, I can't put Torres in there at this point in time, but yes, tied to Auni, tied to Sabovich for sure. Um those happened. You know, I think ultimately, you know, when you look at who came in this off seasonason and who went out, I think it was a an improvement for sure. And um you know I talked about it with with how I felt about Nico where it's just like yeah we had some bad injury luck to start this season. We had some unfortunate results that just didn't go our way uh with things that are out of the coach's control where someone's down and you get scored on a second time. But ultimately if you're not finding ways to get points and like I also said that on the episode where it was just like you know when have we pointed to a game and it was just like Nico just won us three points there because of how we played that game adjustments in the game to see it out through 90. And if you're not making up those type of wins when you're dropping unfortunate points in unlucky situations and you're you've been bad there's just you got nothing to stand on. Um, >> good to see Sarah in here saying Roto's job is to know people and dynamics and to hire the right people. He didn't do his job and I don't think it's just the coaching. I think it goes way past that.

[00:22:26]Again, a lot of fair takes. I think uh on both sides of this discussion right now, Preston here saying he must have fought for Nico to get the job and said it's on me if it fails. Look what Ari's got here. Maybe from a credible press source, Ari's heard through the grapevine that Roto accidentally [ __ ] talked BHI via text directly to him.

[00:22:48]>> Interesting.

[00:22:50][laughter] [sighs] >> Interesting.

[00:22:52]>> Oh man. Yeah. Uh >> I don't you know I don't know I don't know the source. I don't know the credibility of it, you know. I I don't know. But that wouldn't be great [laughter] >> if that happens.

[00:23:07]>> Yeah. Yeah, Carl saying roster build horrible. Like one of the worst and he's the reason we have no gam. And I would say I disagree on the first part and you're just wrong on the last part. He's the reason we don't have more gam. Uh but yeah, we maybe we we could probably do a whole 30 minute episode e going back on how the roster looked in the summer of 2023 under the rules. Uh good to see JC in here. I would also disagree with this, but JC saying Roto did nothing to suggest he was solid for us.

[00:23:38]Uh Johnny saying what came out of Soccerwise, wind it back a little bit.

[00:23:43]Already discussed uh them. Also, I think it's 26th minute timestamp when they [clears throat] get the news on their live stream. [snorts] >> So, you check that out after, of course, tuning out of the North End stream. And of course, you also download the audio version later to support us in that fashion. Kev Mo in here saying, "Do you think the winner of the North End Baseball League should be the next sporting director?" Which I e check the tapes. [laughter] That would be E currently.

[00:24:12]>> Greece, >> come on over, Sabah. Come on back.

[00:24:15][laughter] >> Look, the people are mobilizing against you, dude. And I'll let the people know, those who do play baseball with us in the Patreon, uh, this is what happens in every league that he is in. You got to mobilize against him. You got to take him down.

[00:24:31]>> Oh man.

[00:24:32]>> Uh Vicki in here saying, "Can we talk about healthy team? Every season we start off with multiple injuries just weeks into the season." Um and yeah, I mean if you think back to this season, right, the surprising one was Destler and then of course the timeline for Owen Wolf and how that didn't match what the club initially put out there.

[00:24:50]>> Um >> you know, you can't can't fault anybody for Brandon except San Jose I guess.

[00:24:55]>> Yeah. Shitfield.

[00:24:57]>> Yeah. Again, I injuries happen. You go look at every other like look at the availability report that's that's posted every Friday, >> right? A lot of teams have What's that?

[00:25:08]>> Sorry. Go ahead.

[00:25:10]>> Well, I was just say a lot of teams pick up injuries here or there just because that's what happens with a roster of 25 to 30 players.

[00:25:17]>> Um, >> I was going to say what you got for this next question here? That one looks pretty stale here. I want to know I want to know if pe what percentage of people thought last year was a success.

[00:25:30]>> Okay, let me fire we'll fire this one.

[00:25:33]We'll fire this one first, right?

[00:25:34]Because it's uh right now 67% of the viewers saying that the next sporting director director needs to have previous MLS experience.

[00:25:46]How about the coach? Same question.

[00:25:48]Yeah. Yeah.

[00:25:50]>> I mean, I think probably it's more important for the sporting director, right? Because the rules and regulations are different. Um, and I do think, you know, with this question in particular, how many times have we seen dudes, you know, who we thought be like, "Hey, man, you should be able to really play in this league. You should be a player in this league." And then it you watch the tape and it's just like, "Damn, you look slow." are you just like like you're not ready for the pace of MLS right now and the athletes that are in this league.

[00:26:21]So, uh I do think it's more important for the director, but um you know I again I don't know if there's like a something that's just like solidified that the word is escape and an absolute where it's like one way or another if you go out and get a dude who's got no muscle experience but he's a you know he's a dog I'm I'm excited about that >> for sure. Mki's in here saying Nico definitely out, but Roto has been bringing great talent to our club. I feel Nico and the coaching staff failed these players. And Joey also saying it's it's worrisome to have to rebuild, but we weren't getting any better. Nothing the team did suggested we were going to improve in any major way, so you might as well rebuild, right? So again, like takes from all across the spectrum in here. Um, >> and also it's just been, you know what I mean? Like we're we're in this league right now and the greatest player of all time is playing in this league and they have ways to get all of his buddies over here. You saw that we pulled up the roster sheet last night. [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:27:20]>> Messi's making more than the entire Philadelphia Union team. Yeah.

[00:27:24]>> I think the third or fourth hardest guy is Rodrigo Depal.

[00:27:27]>> So like you're >> he's three. He's three.

[00:27:29]>> You know, you're in a spot right now where it's like that >> is like the standard for winning a cup and winning championships and trophies in this league. And it's like how can you possibly catch that and like make that happen, >> you know? And like obviously I you want to compete with these guys who want to go out there and do it. But like that is just such an interesting kind of uh you know top tier echelon clubs and then clubs like where we find ourselves and you know still it's like the fit with Auni and BV was not ideal to begin with and that that's on Roto too. You know what I mean? Did did the coaching staff need to do more to get that to work better and find a way that it looked a little better? Um, for sure. But like Roto brought both of those guys in and they have overlapping skill sets and again on soccer-wise, you know, they're talking about Aonyi and Goss is bringing up how it's like I've never seen the dude beat someone oneon-one. You know what I mean? I've never seen it happen.

[00:28:30]I've never seen him just like blow past the back line and go get us a [ __ ] goal. And um again, you know, Roto brought him in. I I understand where people are coming from with with with some of this. I just personally don't agree with it. And I'm still shocked that Roto's taken down because of Nico Estz and it's one and a half seasons of coach.

[00:28:52]>> Yep. Yep. So, it's Hub Bro says, "Vamos, Nico out and Burell." Uh and then you also see in here, uh Nick Cow says, "Get Wilfrid Nazi in here now." And uh that does actually bring me to an email that I got from coach uh this morning. So look, if you and coach, I'm going to I'm going to brag on you here a little bit, right? Because I am a hilltop for E >> legend.

[00:29:18]Cal, coach Cal, legendary coach, uh women's soccer there at St. Edwards here in town. So look, E, 10 conference titles, two tournament titles, 12 NCAA tournament appearances, right? at one point an 11-year streak of tourney appearances. Multiple Sweet 16s and Elite 8, seventime H Heartland coach of the year, two-time regional coach of the year, Hartland Conference Hall of Famer, >> RIP to the H Heartland Conference. Uh, but coach was apparently, he said, writing this message to me. Uh, and I will credit Coach Cow as somebody who has elevated, I would say, our soccer knowledge, but certainly me and I've always appreciated him for for supporting us in what we're doing here.

[00:30:00]coach said luckily he missed the game uh in person this weekend so didn't have to be there for that but he says he's he's writing this as both a season ticket holder for Austin and someone who spent his professional life coaching developing players building teams and trying to win this is not about being negative for the sake of it it's about standards and again writing this an hour before the the news or like while the news came out the twoame stretch before the break should have been managed with one clear goal get at least three points pregame odds suggested something like roughly uh you know a San Diego 50% win quart 25% draw 25% Austin win sporting KC 60% Austin win split the remaining 40 between a draw and a sporting win says on paper I understand the temptation to rotate heavily away save your strongest group for the home game and hope to win the second match but in my opinion that was a fundamentally flawed strategy you do not voluntarily turn a twoame problem into a one-ame problem unless the first game is truly unwinable and there are some extreme physical or medical reasons to protect players. In MLS, that is almost never the case. Away games are still there to be competed for. You can get points through set pieces, transition moments, opponent mistakes, red cards, or simply by staying organized and making the home team feel pressure. Ironically, we saw that ex we saw exactly that kind of possibility in the Sporting KC match. By heavily rotating against San Diego, Austin FC wasted a real chance to compete for points. Worse, it placed enormous pressure on the second game. Once you effectively throw away the first match, the home game becomes a must-win.

[00:31:35]Players feel that, opponents feel that, and when the opponent has success pressing, doubt starts to spread. For me, the biggest issue isn't just tactical, it's cultural. When a coach sends out a heavily rotated group in a match like San Diego, what message does that send? The starters may feel the staff has conceded the game. The reserves may feel like sacrificial pieces rather than trusted professionals. You normalize the idea that some games matter and some do not and that's dangerous. Professional players cannot be asked to compete only in certain games. Every game has to matter and every player selected has to believe that the staff thinks they can contribute to a result. My preferred approach would have been much more balanced. Target at least a draw in San Diego with limited rotation. Rest a maximum of three key players if needed, but keep the spine of the team intact.

[00:32:22]goalkeeper, a center back, a central midfielder, and a forward. When I saw the San Diego lineup, my immediate reaction was that the team looks spineless. If you're going to rotate, you ste still need a clear game model.

[00:32:33]Be compact. Be low risk. Prioritize defensive transition. Make set make set pieces a weapon. Give reserves very specific jobs. Do not just put them in a situation where the mission feels like survive, survive. [laughter] That is unfair to them and damaging to the team. Some players look completely unsure of their roles. John Bell looked like he had no idea what he was supposed to be doing. John Coleman looked disengaged. Whether that is on him, the staff, or the relationship between the two, it points to a deeper problem.

[00:33:04]Players like Micah Burton may be excited to play. But when too many second choice players are thrown together without a stable structure, they can end up looking like sacrificial lambs, and that is bad player management. Then you have the impact of losing 5-nil. A defeat like that does not just hurt the league table. It damages confidence, the media narrative, supporter trust, and the emotional tone of the group going into the ne next match. Goal difference matters, but momentum does too. The most worrying part of this stretch, though, is the body language and effort level.

[00:33:35]Seeing players not chase back, seeing poor reactions, flat body language in the Kansas City game, that suggests that something is fundamentally broken. The lack of effort should be non-negotiable.

[00:33:46]If certain players don't give full effort, they should not represent the club again until that standard is restored. Full effort is not a tactical detail. It is the minimum requirement. I also think coach Nico looks like he feels like the walls are closing in based on that postgame interview. I'm not saying he doesn't know the game. He clearly understands training exercises, tactical ideas, and the details of football. But coaching is not just session design. Coaching is management.

[00:34:11]It's motivating players, selecting teams, building trust, create creating clarity, and getting people to perform under pressure. Right now, too many decisions seem to be demoralizing the group rather than strengthening it.

[00:34:22]Strengthening it. There is also a broader accountability issue around the club. The supporter section creates an incredible atmosphere and I have no criticism of the energy they bring. But support cannot mean ignoring what is happening on the field. If players are not giving maximum effort and the team is underperforming, blind positivity during games can become a part of the problem. We all want the club to succeed, but success requires honesty.

[00:34:47]There has been there has to be accountability across the whole club, players, coach, ownership, and yes, supporters, too. A serious soccer club needs all of its stakeholders to demand standards. Austin FC Austin FC should not be in a place where effort is optional, where certain games are treated as disposable or where poor poor performances are excused because the atmosphere is good. The North End deserves a team that competes every minute. Season ticket holders deceive a deserve a team with a clear plan.

[00:35:15]Players deserve a staff that puts them in positions to succeed. And the club deserves leadership that refuses to let standards slide. The issue is not losing one game. The issue is the pattern.

[00:35:26]flawed squad management, damaged trust, poor body language, unclear roles, and a culture that currently looks too comfortable with underperformance and that has to change. So again, coach Nick Cowl giving his extended thoughts to us here in the North End on a Monday. Uh, and I can like look, I would say first, if you like that, you go listen to Beyond the Touchline with Adrien Healey and coach Nick Cow, right? Talking about the World Cup leading up uh to the tournament this summer. But if you like that type of of insight, uh, that type of rhetoric, you're going to get stuff like that. Of course, from Adrian, we see the post that he puts out. He's got 240 characters to do that, right? You see what coach Nick wrote here. Um, hard to disagree with anything about that. And I will also say we're hoping to get both coach and Adrian on for a little World Cup preview here in the North and sometime in the, you know, once the World Cup break begins here and before the tournament kicks off. So, I would thank coach once again for his thoughts because I thought it was way more well said than anything we could ever put together here.

[00:36:31]>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm obviously a legend and um it's good insight and a lot of great points there for sure. I I I get it.

[00:36:39]>> See Bre Joe in the chat as well saying Nico and Auni's poor performance together killed Burell. And again, I think it's just like it's so many factors, but at the end of the day, a lot of us, I feel like, are coming back around to the fact that just like it's just not good enough. And like it's hard to make a strong defense of anything, right? And to me that includes the ownership, right? Because ultimately you guys are hiring all of the you hired Barrell, >> you know? Um >> what's the other poll that you wanted to put up here? uh if you thought last season was overall a success for the club.

[00:37:16]>> Well, so for that third poll, 73% of the live viewers saying that no, the next Austin FC coach does not have to have previous MLS experience. Um, well, how do you I guess as I create this new new poll for you here, E, I think it's still it's hard for me to like sit here and and look at anybody saying that Anthony Precourt doesn't want to win and like not just not roll my eyes because like the money that we spent on the roster, even if it's been um foolhardy in the way like if you feel like that, okay, but like you can't say that the guys aren't spending money in the top third of the league because that's just it's not subjective, right?

[00:38:01]Yeah. And like making this sweeping move >> like again I just I think >> one thing you can guarantee is Anthony Precourt like wants to win and I guess like if you're a hardcore anti-recourt person. Um then like you probably say this is a business move because season ticket renewals are coming up, right?

[00:38:21]>> Um >> but I don't know man. I just don't get on board with that. He doesn't want to win because you look around this league, there are so many other ways to try to keep up the business and the profits without, you know, continuing to fire massive amounts of money on these DP transfers. Um, >> yeah, he's opened up the checkbook a lot. So, I I respect him for that for sure. There's plenty of owners in this league and across sports that don't want to spend. Um, and and Tony has been willing to do that. So, I respect that.

[00:38:51]Has that me meant that every dollar gone to some of these players has has been well worth it and and justified and we got the maximum ROI on the uh old investment there? No. You know, plenty of guys haven't worked out. It hasn't looked entirely great. Um but yeah, it just like if we're talking about like putting, you know, the pressure on and everything now, it's like you you can't [ __ ] miss this higher >> because it's like you just going to be in purgatory for the next four years again. Are we just like are we doing three years of like we got to rebuild now, revamp the roster and and get a coach and and do all that? And like to to your point about maybe why this was part of the you know the the downfall for for Roto was that we have seen teams flip it way faster um in less amount of time. I'm not privy to their entire cap situation and what was going on. I find it hard to believe that they would be in um you know a worse spot than Austin was uh when we started out 2023 with how that was looking and everything. But there there's all kinds of success stories where that happens. And there's all kinds of stories like look at Atlanta, right? Look at Atlanta last year, what they did brought all those guys in and it hasn't worked for them and they've been terrible as well. And like, you know, it it's interesting to see how this league goes because it hasn't just been a guaranteed lock where it's like you just throw money at some dudes and they're coming here and they set the league on fire. Um, still just kind of in shock over over the roto stuff, man. Uh, >> yeah. Yeah, >> his wiki page is already updated.

[00:40:28][laughter] >> You know, Austin fans are going to get on that right quick. Uh, I see our buddy podcast P. Uh, Pagota P here with the tour coming up in a couple months. Uh, saying speaking of USL, Dallas showing how picking from that level can be good for the group. No $30 million spend needed. Uh, the Trey Foy here saying turning over to GM, a GM and a head coach twice twice in a five-year history. Alarming. Yes. Also having one of those guys being fired for blackmail.

[00:40:56]>> Yep. Not great. [laughter] >> Good to see Dave Ruth in here. The case against Roto even at full strength. Is this roster competing for titles and not just playoffs? And yeah, >> they're not. They're not. And I again I that also comes back to this odd outlier where you have the greatest player of all time in the league.

[00:41:13]>> Yeah, >> because I know we can't compete with that team even though we got the draw at in their house. Like I get I we're not you can't sustain something over a year and then make it through the playoffs and then go and be like, "Oh yeah, we're going to [ __ ] beat Messi in a final."

[00:41:24]But yeah, it's true. I And I still maintain that I do think that this team would have made the playoffs and would have got in probably by the skin of their teeth and then you're in there and you get, you know, what happened with LAFC last year where you're just clearly a worse team and it doesn't matter who was coaching Austin last year when you're playing LFC in the playoffs.

[00:41:45]You're just losing that series. They're just better.

[00:41:48]>> Yeah, I see David P in here saying Stuiver liked the Bogurt Instagram message about the firing of the Crew head coach. I think Danny also did and somebody else and like fans were picking up on that last night. Um, good to see our buddy Rich in here, fellow North Anderson. Get him out. Very unimpressed by player development. Um, and Breen here saying, >> go ahead. Go ahead.

[00:42:11]>> It's been a main talking point for a lot of people where it's like players have not gotten better here and we haven't.

[00:42:17]And how you get some of that quick flip and sustained success is you're able to develop some dudes, then you sell them and you get that money and now you're you're working with it. Yeah, Breck was in here saying Ramirez and Beiru were huge Roto moves. If Auni hit, we wouldn't be here having this combo.

[00:42:33]Yeah, maybe >> too huge hit.

[00:42:35]>> Yeah, I mean again I think we could sit here and go through the roster in a minute and talk about like who we think is maybe, you know, not on the chopping block, but that's another aspect of this man is like this also creates uncertainty for the majority of the players on the roster whether you're playing well or not because am I going to fit what the new sporting director wants to do? Am I gonna fit what the new head coach wants to do? Right. Is my contract up at the end of this year? Uh so, you know, there's there's that aspect of it, too. Um coach in here saying, "Did they fire now because Columbus crew fired their coach and we want to make sure they don't get their offers in first?" Dude, potentially.

[00:43:12]>> Yeah.

[00:43:12]>> I don't think that's crazy.

[00:43:14]>> I don't think it's crazy.

[00:43:15]>> Um >> I don't think it's crazy, you know. And if you can get Wilfried, man, like of course. But coming here again, like what the Trey Foil said, man, like two coaches, two sporting directors in five years, that's that's not a sign of a stability for an organization. And you know, coach Cal's talking about standards and everything. And I want to have that for this club, too. And we have maintained even when we thought Nico, you know, like wasn't the right guy for the job that we didn't want to be a club that was just like hiring a hiring, you know. Um but when >> I still want to be I don't, but I this had to happen. It had to happen. And to coach Cal's point, putting that pressure on yourself for the SKC game and I still maintain that you [ __ ] should have won that game no matter what. You know, pressure or not. No matter what. Um, you know, it did it did ultimately, I think, lead to this because again, it just didn't seem like they were going to do it.

[00:44:10]>> Yeah. Yep. When Kendall Kendall's in here saying Roto said at the beginning of the season that no one expects us to win MLS Cup this year. Is that really what we what we want to hear from a sporting director who's been here for three years?

[00:44:23]>> I do because it's honest. I mean it's true. You know what I mean? Do I >> am I gonna you know I pack my bags. I go to Orlando. You know that's that's my next [laughter] that's my next move. You know so it's just like >> it it's re it was reality. You know what I mean? Do I want to hear that? Maybe not, but it's the it was the reality of the situation. We weren't good enough to win MLS Cup. And when we lost US Open Cup, we said immediately there's your one shot at a trophy this season. You have no other chance. You're not winning league cup. You're not winning MLS Cup.

[00:44:56]So, yeah. And I get that. And like, you know, it mean standard for a lot of people means >> we compete for titles every [ __ ] year.

[00:45:03]>> I want to do that.

[00:45:04]>> Yeah. For of course.

[00:45:05]>> I want to be involved in that, you know.

[00:45:08]>> Yeah. So, if that's, you know, if that's what we got to be, and then I was saying like, you got to get this one right.

[00:45:14]>> You have to.

[00:45:15]>> Yep. And Trex in here saying, I think Roto served the team well to raise the floor, but has missed greatly on the ceiling raisers, including head coach.

[00:45:24]Um, well, I also want to say this, like I, as a fan, I do appreciate the efforts of both Nico and Roto while they were here because I don't believe for a second that those guys did anything in their mind that wasn't for in the best interest of trying to win and trying to make this club a success. It just, you know, wasn't good enough. Um, Vibe G in here saying, "What about medical staff?" Yeah, that's a not not a conversation for me. Um, I think the medical staff is fine and like >> we are just not having the >> the best injury luck that we ever had was 2022. It was like Hector was out for like two months.

[00:46:06]>> Yeah.

[00:46:06]>> And that was it.

[00:46:07]>> Yeah.

[00:46:08]>> Basically that season.

[00:46:09]>> Um, Johnny says he needs to he needs to have some experience coaching on dry grass in terms of that new head coach. Maybe we should have made that one of the uh one of the choices there. Dylan jumping in here saying, "What up, fam?" Blank slate, new possibilities. So pumped. And like that is again where like I have hesitations about moving on from Roto.

[00:46:31]I'm all like I think that's why I'm not upset is because I'm also feeling some of those vibes where it's like it is a blank slate >> and like the ownership team, who isn't that right? Anthony Precourt and the new owners that that jumped in last year, right? New investors into the group. on y'all to find the best candidate here.

[00:46:49]>> I wonder how much those people >> had pull here.

[00:46:53]>> Also, good question. Things will never know unless we're in that room or >> Yeah. I just feel like, you know what I mean? You >> You guys want to come on the show and tell us?

[00:47:02]>> Yeah. You get this infusion of new money with these folks, right? And it's like, I don't know. You know, of course, there's so much politics and and and things that happen in the front office that every average fan is just never going to know about. And we are included in in that group of people.

[00:47:19]>> Yum. There's Prof in here saying, "Oh, now I'm late. Good to see Pro on the lunch break." And uh Kather's in here saying, "If we had won the Open Cup, you could have made an argument. We made it to the final by the skin of our teeth and lost it on our home field." So talking about last year where you look at that poll, >> 5050 split right now if you consider last expect it. Yeah, >> sure. Um, so Pro said, "Did you already cover the order of operations? Will the club hire an interim coach, then a sporting director, then that person hires a coach? Does that all get done before the World Cup break ends?"

[00:47:55]>> Well, we've got Davey for this one game, and it said in the press release, which we didn't get to, but I think everybody can, right? Austinfc.com. I think we're far enough in now, 48 minutes into the stream, where we don't need to go back and pull up the the press release. But Davey, the the interim coach for this match against St. Louis and uh there's going to be a new sporting director and coach in the summer window. The the window opens July 13th.

[00:48:20]>> Mhm.

[00:48:21]>> So like you got about two months until that window opens. Um and then that those guys got to hit the ground running.

[00:48:28]>> I know. And like that's why I'm concerned, right? Because we've already like you just gave Ralph Burell three and a half years. Three years. Three three and a half years, >> right? Um >> well about three summer 23 is when he got here. Okay. So, if you're the noob dude coming in and you're you're about to be the GM here, the sporting director, right? Like, you got to get this thing moving in the right direction how you see it. And like to me, that means there's going to be a lot of turmoil here with this roster and what it's going to look like moving forward, you know? And so, you know, Coach Cow talking about Spine, who who is that group right now, you know? I mean, Owen, we've we've been suspecting something's going on there.

[00:49:10]And now this happens.

[00:49:13]>> I mean, yeah.

[00:49:16]>> I mean, you know, I know people are excited about, you know, and you know, the potential Blakes. I'm also worried about that, you know, like I am worried about it. And to Tony's credit, and I will continue to give him credit, that he has spent going out and getting Bell, I thought was massive and something that I didn't think we I didn't think we were capable of really doing, honestly. Um, so we'll see. But I I'm I'm definitely nervous about uh you know what the second half of this season looks like if we're legit spoon contenders and then you're coming in here, you're got in the the roster.

[00:49:51]>> Yep. Matthew in here saying you just don't want them doing the water throwing celebration thing after giving up a goal. Um, >> fair.

[00:50:01]>> Yeah. And look, all that stuff is fair, but like if you don't want to be involved in the in in the south end antics, then just don't sit there.

[00:50:08]>> Come over the North End.

[00:50:10]>> Yeah, we'll boo with you.

[00:50:11]>> Yeah, GMO will pour some beer on your head instead of water. [laughter] >> Oh man. Oh, back when we were winning.

[00:50:19]Um, so scrolling back through the chat here. Um, see Cam in here saying, "Has to be a big hire man. Needs to be a Nazi. Jim Curtain, [laughter] big and Nick Sabin.

[00:50:30][ __ ] it.

[00:50:34]Oh boy. Um I mean pulling up the uh roster sheets here e and talking about guys who could be mo moved on like obviously maybe not obviously but I think this just accelerates or increases the chances that a sabovich is gone in the window that airuni is going to be moved on. Um, >> I don't think it increases Savovich. I think it increases his zone. I think Savovich was 100% no matter what.

[00:51:02]>> Okay.

[00:51:03]>> I mean, you would use your bite on him, right?

[00:51:07]>> If I had to, but again, I would I would again, and that's, you know, one thing that that Roto was clearly good at was selling lemons, right? Or like forcing the hand of River when we didn't seem to have much leverage because Drezi went to Argentina and wasn't coming back. And forced the hand down there and almost recouped all the money for Bu. Like, you know, are we going to have to Yeah, are we gonna have to take a a bigger loss on somebody like Auni if we move him on in the summer? Um, you know, and like does does the the thinking about having to have that central hub of chance creation, a true 10, does the thinking on that change with the new sporting director? Because if it does then like and you'd have to reshuffle some things around this acquisition acquisition probably with your player personnel in the attacking half. But like >> if that's the new uh uh direction, >> then I [clears throat] think you got to use a deep you got to get a DP10 and it's the Auni spot that you use it use it on.

[00:52:14]>> Yeah. Yeah. And I think that that would excite a lot of people. And it seems that uh again, you know, and when we talked about it on the last episode, it was like I did think Auni was going to be gone. He's he's played the best he's played. Um you know, not these last two matches, but the games before. Um but I did think he was going to be gone. And um you know if he if he was trying to get out like he was and we we knew about this um then yeah >> Vicki says aren't a few hundred potential hires arriving on American soil in the next few weeks. And that's another good point.

[00:52:52]>> Great point right there for sure. Great point.

[00:52:56]>> And I see Noir in here. Apologize if I've missed anybody. Uh a lot of action in the live chat here on our Monday. the wire saying 25 was not a success in my book because I remember more pain right coming from that MLS season than the joy outside of open cup and the awful style of soccer that we played. Uh so sitting 5248 here e I think is we can go ahead and take that poll down as well. Um so >> I mean we were not we were not winning a lot of pretty games last year for sure.

[00:53:28]you know, you had the DC, you had the DC win and everything, but a lot of the other ones were not not like gorgeous looking soccer out there. But, um, yeah, and I think that it's fine. Again, if you're if the standard is we want to compete for Cups every single year, year in and year out, and you don't think that the season was success because of that, I I can't argue with >> what games have we had joy from E during the or what games did we have joy from?

[00:53:55]Uh certainly not this page. And like I would argue that those two wins I know you weren't there for Houston, but like Houston and St. Louis City were like size of relief.

[00:54:07]>> Yeah.

[00:54:08]>> Like we've been so far with our backs up against the wall for so long that like I have not enjoyed the the two wins that we did get.

[00:54:15]>> Even DC, >> this is one we felt like we should and they've they are clearly better than we thought they were. I still don't think that's a very good team.

[00:54:24]>> Yeah. Um, but like where where where did it come from?

[00:54:30]I mean, >> you get kicked in the nuts by Minnesota right at the end of the first game.

[00:54:35]>> Mhm.

[00:54:36]>> I would have been I would have been real happy about that given the circumstances if they held on for three points there.

[00:54:41]>> Been a great win.

[00:54:43]>> And like when's the last time? Seattle at home. Probably.

[00:54:47]>> Seattle at home for sure. that I like legit felt really good about a win anywhere.

[00:54:54]>> We haven't won on the road since >> Open Cup Minnesota.

[00:54:58]>> Yeah.

[00:54:59]>> And like Sporting KC on the road.

[00:55:04]>> I don't know, man. It's just been We're the only team without a road win. And dude, if you like we got to get maybe we need to hire an interim lever technician because if you do not win this weekend and Sporting beats New York Red Bulls, which I think is plausible in their house in Kansas City, if those two results go that way, we will spend two months during the break in last place in the Western Conference.

[00:55:34]So, like >> the fact that you're that close to it, even if it doesn't happen, >> I don't know. It's hard to >> And I don't know why. I mean, I'll tell you what. [clears throat] I'm not excited about the St. Louis game. That's for sure.

[00:55:49]>> Yeah.

[00:55:50]>> I am very, very [ __ ] interested >> to see how these players react in that game.

[00:55:57]>> I That is going to be the most telltale thing for me. And does that guarantee a result that you're going to come out, you know, you know, on fire and and all of that, but like >> effort stuff, the connectivity, the communication, body language for sure.

[00:56:13]Watching these dudes, I'm going to be watching closely to see how these dudes look out there because we already said, you know, the Danny comments come out.

[00:56:22]We're having now you're getting stuff from the locker room. Hey, we're we're not prepared, you know, like that's coming out. You that always a bad sign having that happen. And as we talked about, there's players who are excited about both of these moves that just took place on Austin.

[00:56:40]>> Yeah.

[00:56:41]>> And there's guys who are probably not excited about one or the other. And I think there's much more in the camp of Roto firing than there is in the the the Nico camp.

[00:56:51]>> Yeah. Well, it's been now I mean, we are going to It's going to be July before we have another opportunity. So, we are going to go 11 months between without scoring three goals at home. And I know there's an off season in there, yada yada, but like >> get a while, you know? And [ __ ] I'm ready for a two-month break from this team right now.

[00:57:13]>> Go ahead. Go get your [ __ ] together.

[00:57:15]Figure it out. Get your [ __ ] together.

[00:57:17]These two months, we'll be going once a week.

[00:57:21]>> Ready for a break.

[00:57:22]>> Yeah. you know, and this does uh just trying to think about anything else that I hadn't crossing my mind before we potentially shut it down here. I see Proface saying back to the grind. Thanks for the midday stream. Good luck north end people. Um is Shemisu Pueta maybe not coming now.

[00:57:42]>> You told me he was here. [laughter] >> I don't know how pre-contracts work.

[00:57:50][clears throat] >> If you can team hasn't announced it.

[00:57:53]Look, brother, I don't think he's coming now.

[00:57:55]>> Yeah, I think that not s not surprised by that.

[00:57:58]>> Also, that sucks for him.

[00:58:01]>> Yeah.

[00:58:02]>> Oh, that sucks for him.

[00:58:03]>> I don't mean to laugh. That does suck for him. But >> yeah.

[00:58:06]>> Oh, >> golly.

[00:58:07]>> Yeah. I mean, I would not be shocked at all if he's not if he's not part of the plans. Why would he be? You know what I mean? Like again, we just talking about this dude needs to whoever's coming in here, >> you're looking at this roster and it's like we know we need Gam. Who you getting? Who are you selling to get some of that? What What's going on? We know we need a switch with the two DPS >> and those two guys. I think with all of Zoom struggles and BV playing uh you know below the standard that I think he is as a player to start the season last year.

[00:58:40]>> Those guys didn't get a fair shot at either to make it work. But none of this [ __ ] is fair, man. Life isn't fair. It doesn't work that way.

[00:58:46]>> Yeah. Um >> I dude I also think that I think all three U22s could potentially be moved.

[00:58:53]>> I'm literally I just looked over there and I was just like oh boy Duber >> Mattea too.

[00:58:59]>> Yeah. Yeah. You know more so Duber because he got that he I think he got the biggest uh duration of a deal that we had ever >> been here longer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:59:08]>> He's been here longer than Georgovic too. Um, but like it's again like the the U22s in this league from my perspective, the few years we've been watching the U22s in this league that come in and are going to be sold on for a profit and generate that gam out of those special roster slots like they come in and they make an impact usually.

[00:59:28]>> Uh, like pretty quickly, >> you know.

[00:59:30]>> Yep. They're good. Yeah.

[00:59:31]>> And neither of those guys, like we haven't seen a ton of either of them, especially Georgovic, but none of those guys came in and hit the ground running like that. And of course, the quickest way to generate gam is to sell Owen Wolf >> tomorrow.

[00:59:42]>> Yep.

[00:59:42]>> Yeah. And look, I think that that needs to be escalated to like a threat level orange or something. Move that up a little bit because I do think that that potentially increases the timeline.

[00:59:54]>> I do like that our highest threat level in the North End is a disgusting orange.

[00:59:58]Uh >> it's not the highest.

[01:00:00]>> Oh, it's not? Okay. I >> You think it elevated to the highest it's ever been?

[01:00:05]>> No. No. I'm just saying orange should on our scale.

[01:00:08]>> Oh, word.

[01:00:10]>> We don't like orange here. E >> whacker's in charge of the color scale here at the North End.

[01:00:14]>> Yeah, [laughter] >> he's color blind.

[01:00:18]>> Uh the wire said E will be wearing purple and moving to Orlando. An Orlando podcast.

[01:00:24]>> I go to Orlando. [laughter] >> Yeah.

[01:00:28]>> Uh you better not buy a [ __ ] Griezmann Orlando jersey.

[01:00:32]>> Uh I might have already looked at some.

[01:00:35]>> [laughter] >> It's already on pre-order.

[01:00:38]>> Well, got to get those bank accounts situated first.

[01:00:41]>> Yeah. [laughter] [sighs and gasps] >> Oh [ __ ] man. Anything else for you before we shut it down? Right around an hour here on our Monday. Of course, we'll be back on Wednesday to preview that St. Louis uh game, second team recap, nonsense, uh and cleaning up anything, any other fallout that comes from the two firings today.

[01:01:02]Yeah, I mean still first and foremost it's it's VHLM for sure and uh if I don't agree with you entirely on wanting Roto gone and all the decisions that are being made doesn't mean that we're not riding this thing till the wheels fall off. Um so it is what it is and clean slate moving forward here. Uh, I'm excited and worried and I'm still upset, angry, and disappointed that we weren't able to retain what I thought was one of the best assets in the organization. Um, but that's the gig. That's the job. You dust yourself off and you keep going here. So, I am excited for a two-month break, but we'll be back. I won't go to Orlando. Don't worry, y'all.

[01:01:44]>> Yeah. [laughter] Well, I I'll also excuse me. I'll shout out Uncle Dave who reminds me that I got to get in the [ __ ] studio now this summer because it's time for a new victory song. And Uncle said, "One that gets played more than twice a month." [laughter] And I agree with that. Uh, and our buddy TJ Jonesy, who I saw in the live chat as well, says, "Green smoke, green smoke.

[01:02:07]Who could it be? A U22 or a new SD?" And with that, e, uh, we appreciate everybody who tuned in and stuck with us here on our double fired live stream.

[01:02:18]We're back on Wednesday previewing the St. Louis match, all that other good stuff I mentioned. Uh, join the Patreon if you want to continue this conversation, having a lot of fun in the Discord as well. And, uh, e, we'll be talking about this over the break as well. First North End merch drop going to be announced during the break. So, you want to get in on that and all the other fun here in the North End, join that Patreon. Uh link to join is in the description of this live stream.

[01:02:48]Appreciate everybody tuning in once again. We will see you guys on Wednesday. Goodbye.

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