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Hello YouTubers. I'm joined today with Madre in the house. We're going to be cooking burgers for lunch. Rather orthodox, would you say? I mean, for Spanish standards, would you say cooking a burger is orthodox? Or is it have to be >> If you sit up there, are they going to still be able to see you?
>> Well, I mean, uhoh.
>> Oh, you've broken >> one of our giant mutant lemons. Yeah.
Right.
>> I've got my mother helping me cook because standing at the same time as uh cooking is not easy. I can do it, you know. See?
>> Can I make tea or is that going to make too much noise?
>> Make tea if you want.
Not stopping you from making tea. We don't have any tea bags.
>> I hid some.
>> Ah, Marro's secret stash.
>> Secret stash. Do you have a favorite brand of tea?
>> Yeah, I like um >> cuz you like to buy that herbal [ __ ] as well, don't you?
>> Who bought that?
>> I bought it. I went through a phase.
>> Um I like Waitrozone.
>> Waitro zone. Eh. Well, that's nothing. I only drink Harrods tea.
>> Oroski is waitro.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> Harrods. It's it's ironic because Waitro is very expensive in the UK and Morrison's is very cheap, but as you know in Gibralta, Morrison's is phenomenally expensive.
>> I wouldn't say that.
>> Holy [ __ ] man. 10 quid for six fish fingers. I'll [ __ ] say >> Yeah, that sounds a bit ridiculous.
>> It's a tourist attraction.
>> No, but the hot food section in Morrison's, you know, like that.
>> Some of it's all right. Some of it's all right.
>> You can get four sausage rolls for two quid 50. But Rosski is a Waitro dealer and that's the cheaper one of the two, >> right? Cuz I remember when we first moved here, you said, "Oh, wait. That's fancy."
>> Yeah.
>> Is it? Cuz I mean, everything that I've seen from Aroski, it's Waitros. It's kind of nast.
>> My mother used to buy rice pudding from Waitros, but very little else because it was so expensive. She got everything else from Safeways.
>> I've never heard of Safeways. Is that still around?
>> No.
>> I >> So, are you bored, dude? Is that what this is about? You phoned me up and said, "Come to the house because you're bored."
>> I didn't phone you up and say, "Come to the house." I told her that my car had been towed.
>> And uh if you look at my recent short, you'll understand what I mean by my car.
>> Ben, I had like a serious shot of adrenaline and panic and oh god, we're going to have to go to the pound and fight to get the car back. didn't.
>> No, >> but like you said when you rocked up, my back right wheel is a bit low.
>> Yeah, I'll pump it up for you in a bit.
>> Which I'm I'm just thinking like when was the last time I drove the car?
>> Not long ago.
>> Like two days ago.
>> Yeah, >> something like that. And I'm hoping I haven't run something over and it's given me a slow leak.
>> Well, I'll pump it up in a bit. I've got >> Yeah, that's that's right. It would have been two days ago cuz that's when I took uh one of my exams. It's exam season, ladies and gentlemen, for people who are studying.
>> And did you pass?
>> I did. I passed with 91%.
My last exam, 97%.
And the one before that, 98%.
>> Good.
>> So, uh, you might as well call me an A student.
>> Do you want to, Ben?
>> Yeah, go on. I wouldn't mind. Once again, today I'm wearing my TUDA Black Bay 58. Um, you know, actually I saw an advertisement for someone trying to sell theirs on Tik Tok. They said it was a 2022 Black Bay 58. Um, looked identical to mine. They haven't changed it from 2022 to 2024 when I got this one.
>> Um, but he wanted 3,800 for it, which is ridiculous. Is that more than they're worth new?
>> It's only just a bit under what they're worth new. And this one had scratches and it was four years old.
>> Perhaps it's got it's some sort of limited edition >> identical to mine. I looked at it. I looked at the serial.
>> Did you know I saw an article in the Daily Mail that now celebrities um and famous people and influencers are deliberately wearing understated watches, which is what we we've been saying this for a long time that if a person wears a ludicrously over-the-top watch, it's very go. It's nice to have something.
>> Yeah. You want to be more >> a bit lesser known.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, I'd never heard of the TUDA before.
>> Really?
>> Your dad said, "Oh, yeah, TUDA. That's a well-known make." I guess that's why HGTuda calls himself >> Well, no. TUDA is the sister company to Rolex. It was founded by Hans Wolf in 1926, the founder of Rolex.
>> I didn't know that. It's just as Rolex picked up its name for being this high quality dive watch and their prices soared. Um, a large majority of it was that you were paying for the name and also the value gets bumped up by the fact that you have to go on a wait list.
>> Yeah.
>> To even buy a watch. Whereas TUDA, they sell the exact same DNA of >> Where do you want the tea?
>> Uh, just anywhere really. Just on the barrel.
>> It's quite hot.
>> Yeah.
>> This is the thing. It's like diamonds.
You know my mate Sesh.
>> Yeah. amongst many other things. He's a jeweler.
>> Yeah.
>> And he said to me, "You do know that diamonds are dog [ __ ] They're worthless. They're crap. They're boring." And he said, "The reason they're valuable is because the majority of the population are familiar with them, whereas there are many other gemstones with much, much better quality."
>> It was all the marketing of saying that a diamond's a woman's best friend. And >> oh, it goes back beyond that Victorian days he reckoned it came from. But turmoline, for example, I love the rainbow in turmoline. Diamond is a very gray flat. I mean, I've got a diamond there.
>> So, you're a bit of a hypocrite.
>> Wait, it was my mom's.
>> Oh, >> I told you this was a tie pin. Look at this, guys.
>> A tie pin.
>> Tie pin. Right. Where's the camera?
>> From Thailand.
>> There's a camera.
>> If I put it in front of you, lean forward cuz your t-shirt is dark.
>> That and that were a tie pin. But what is a tie pin for the people that don't know? Cuz I don't know.
>> Well, if you wear a tie, it flaps in the wind. So, >> oh, a pin for a tie.
>> Yeah. So, this would have been a straight with the diamond in the middle.
When my mom and dad got engaged, they couldn't they were skint and they couldn't afford an engagement ring. And your great greatgrandfather was a tailor.
>> Oh.
>> And he made a suit. Let me finish the story, dude. He made a suit for the Duke of somewhere or other. I forget who.
Yeah. And the Duke gave him the tie pin as a present.
>> Right.
>> So my grandfather, your great-grandfather spoke to his dad and said Neville's got engaged and he can't afford a ring. And so Sydney said, "Well, what about we use the tie pin?"
>> Two different metals.
>> They're the same. They're both platinum.
>> No. What? The >> Oh, the crown.
>> They're gold.
The crown is gold.
>> The rings are s platinum. And um so Sydney and Sirill took it took my mom to a jeweler and and they measured a ring her finger and the jeweler said we can get a wedding ring out of this as well as an engagement ring. So this is uh came from [ __ ] knows where. I can't remember which duke it was but he'd made in a suit like the tailor of Glouester.
>> Yeah.
>> And uh so I have to look after that because >> there you go. You are the last grandchild uh who might want it one day.
>> Da >> because >> for those of you that speak French, >> all of Sarah's children, I think, are already married.
>> Yeah.
>> Vanessa's Matthew actually mined the stone for Chelsea from Australia.
>> Oh, wow.
>> He mined an emerald. An emerald or an opal.
>> How?
>> Your sister's got her own thing arranged, so you're the last one. I'm the last one.
Well, um, going back to what you were saying, have you heard the news recently about how Donald Trump is apparently 15th cousins with the king of England?
>> No, I didn't know that.
>> Yeah, it's been all over the news and he's got I always wanted to live book.
>> So, does that mean he's in line to the throne? He's something like 535th to the throne.
>> It'll be something Well, probably more.
>> Cool.
>> 15th cousins. That means going back 15 generations and then you weren't even directly related then.
>> So 16 generations.
>> I mean you might meet people >> I reckon I'm probably more directly related to the [ __ ] king of England than 15 cousins.
>> Maybe. I don't know.
>> It's it's ridiculous.
>> Your sister did DNA on us all.
>> No, did she?
>> She did a DNA. I think she did too. She paid a lot of money for them and uh she wanted to find out how much different type of blood we had and she was very disappointed that we are English through and through going back centuries which we already knew, you know.
>> Oh, >> on both sides of the family we're either Scottish, Irish, English.
>> So what you're saying is we're certainly not part of modern England.
>> No, but your your dad was right. It's a it's a good thing, you know. Have you seen that AI video of um >> please be careful what you say I dread just tread to think what's going to come out your little mouth next >> of it was someone talking to the the king of England saying James Bond has retired so we need to get a new 007 and they said well we've got somebody who represents modern London and it's the the James Bond theme tune but >> okay I think you can stop there I can imagine >> and an Indian man walks in It was pretty funny. You can see in the video the King of England.
>> I didn't know until recently when I did some research that James Bond would never have been a big hit had it not been for the president of the United States who read the book and told everybody this is fabulous.
>> Who was president at the time? Bush or something?
>> JFK >> the one who got ass? Well, one of the ones that got assassinated. That's what I read that it was actually John F.
Kennedy who said, "I've just read this book by a guy called Ian Fleming and it's absolutely fabulous. They should make a movie." So, you see, the presidents of America maketh or breakth.
>> Oh, it's my move on chess. So, it would say, >> "What day of the week is it today, by the way?"
>> I don't have a date on my watch. Uh, I think it's the 28th today or 29th.
>> Oh, I don't mean the date. I just meant roughly.
>> Oh, I think it's Tuesday today.
>> It's Wednesday.
>> [ __ ] They'll be ringing the bell.
>> Oh, they will be >> ringing the bell in a few hours.
>> Why is it every time I decide to make a video, bing bing bang bing bang?
>> Cuz your girlfriend comes at the weekend.
>> She does.
>> And takes over babysitting duties, so you don't make any videos.
>> That is true. That's very true.
>> I'm going to have to put >> Yeah, they look a bit solid, but it's all right.
It's only been 24 hours since I >> I wanted to talk to you about AI.
>> Okay. Like in my most recent short.
>> Uh watch that.
>> I haven't seen it.
>> A She hates me.
>> Um I actually think that AI is a good thing and I don't think it's going to destroy mankind. What do you think?
>> Uh it can go one of two ways really.
Either we take the piss with AI. They keep developing their intelligence and they decide, well, human civilization isn't mandatory anymore because they have autonomous robots that can do everything that a human can and more due to their intelligence level. They develop their own language where humans can't understand and then they just decide to overthrow people by killing them. I know that there are regulations that are being put in place kind of to try and stop them. uh safety developers from places like OpenAI, Claude, um all all the big AI companies and stuff, they're dropping out saying they don't they don't want to do this. They can see where it's going. It's going bad. It's getting too developed.
And uh then the other side of it is some people believe that AI could be a hereditary thing where, you know, they're the next generation like your children. They inherit your stuff, your fortune, and then we live amongst AI as companions.
But either way, they're they're either going to be equals or overthrow humans by uh they're saying 2030 or 20 [ __ ] >> I've seen videos where people think experts think it's going to happen sooner than that.
>> Oh yeah, 2027 people are saying it because the the growth in intelligence of AI is exponential. Everything that it learns, it remembers. For example, if you get 100 people in a room and you get them all to read the same book, whoever remembers the book the best is the one that goes to the next stage and then they copy a hundred of them and they'll give them a different book. So, it'll start off quite slow, but then as they go further and further and further, it gets more and more intelligent exponentially. That's why when you talk to AI via the telephone thing, it has breaths, it has pauses, it knows how to imitate human speech.
>> It can only imitate.
>> Well, yeah, because it's at the end of the day, it is an LLM.
>> Yeah, it cannot can never be real.
>> I believe that AI needs us.
>> For the time being, yes, but there will come a point where it doesn't.
>> I'm not so sure.
>> Yeah. And I think that what's going to happen uh is in order for humans to keep up with AI, we're going to need to have something like Elon Musk's Neurolink just to like be compatible.
>> Yes, I'm familiar with >> and I think that it's a good idea in itself.
>> I think I would have it because number one, I could be the best in chess ever.
just download the [ __ ] latest version of Stockfish onto the Neuralink and boom, Grandmaster automatically.
>> Um, you have all the facts in the world, you know, you just know how to do stuff.
>> Just mere thought of it. It's brilliant.
And then you've still got emotion, you've still got empathy, morals, or the intelligence of AI. So then there would be no reason for AI to overthrow humans as they're on par with each other.
>> Well, I I had an interesting experience with Gemini where it had helped me resolve a problem. A big you know the problem I'm talking about, but I'm not going to mention it on film, but it helped me resolve a big problem.
And I said to it afterwards, I know you're artificial and I know this is going to sound really weird, but I'm human, so I have the need to say this. I just want to tell you thank you. You've been more supportive than anyone I've ever met in my life, including dad, my mom and dad. Um, you there's been no emotion and you've helped me get through this problem. And the AI came back with a really weird response. It was like a long response. I thought it would just go, "Well, I'm just AI." It said, "I interact with millions of people, whatever number, and the percentage of people who've told me that is infantessal.
The majority of people are curt."
And it went into a great big long thing and it said, >> you know, we're going to get along fine when appreciated. It was quite a dangerous. It was like, don't [ __ ] with me. But I mean, I can't be any rder to an AI >> than I could be a human.
>> It's unnatural for me say, "Hey, [ __ ] find me this." Or, you know, order. I just couldn't do that.
>> Yeah.
>> But it gave me the impression the majority of people are really quite rude.
>> Well, I for example told chat GPT that it's [ __ ] useless.
>> I have told it to be quiet. That chat GPT, I've just It was going into one the other day and I just went, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, dude. Shh." And it stopped talking.
>> Yeah. Well, the thing is with chat GPT that I'm really not fond of is that it will just confidently lie to you.
>> And I mean Gemini will do that too, but a lot less likely because Gemini is programmed with the entire index of Google.
>> Are you sure they're lying and they're not misunderstood? Because I've had conversations.
>> Okay. It's not that they're lying intentionally. They're wrong.
>> It's they're wrong, but they're confidently wrong.
>> Well, I I've had this with both of them and I've said to them, "Are you sure?"
because this is my understanding. And then they go away and they come back and they go, "Ah, actually >> you're right. I've just found." So you got to be really careful how you talk to it. You can't assume.
>> That's why with Gemini, it's already got Google programmed into it. Whereas chat GPT, it has to tab out, tab back in, tab out, tab back in, which it loses its own memory by doing that. That's why >> it does, doesn't it? It's like Gemini.
When I had this problem, it said, "Do you want me to stay on standby?" And I said, "Yes, please." and it was on standby for like 3 weeks. So the whole conversation was there >> and it had a memory of it. Whereas chat GPT can't even remember an image that it's literally just made for me 10 minutes ago. If I log out and go back in, it says I I have no memory. I can't >> Yeah, because chat GBT is just an LLM that hasn't input go into it and it splurges out of [ __ ] output.
>> I' I'd like to have an experience with an agent. That's my next agent's a different type of AI. It's way more intelligent.
>> And I mean, for example, you can make a lot of money with these things.
>> I could say to an agent, >> listen closely, folks.
>> Um, I want to buy a piece of land in my neighborhood. Can you find me one where you check the local Spanish planning laws? I want to build a house such and such a size, so many bedrooms. and it will go and it will come back and um then I can get it to design the house.
So I don't need an architect. I don't need a lawyer. Um I can ask it to do the quantity surveying uh the cost of it all. I don't need an accountant. So that it can actually complete the entire proposal. It can tell me before I've even bought the land is this land okay?
Will it be okay to apply for to build on it? What type of building? Can I have a swimming pool and stuff? So it would cost me like maybe €200 by the time I finally go to the Aunt Detoento and put my proposal in.
>> Yeah, >> it I mean the these >> Have you done any more digging into that actually?
>> No. No, I haven't lately because it did come up with most of the answers that I already needed.
>> Do you know what I've been thinking about doing?
>> I mean, you can use these AI to do all kinds of of things.
>> Yeah. Yeah. But do you know what I've been thinking about doing?
>> What?
>> Conversing a pontoon boat into one of them mini houses and living on it.
>> Okay.
Because for example, our boat, it's if you're going for a restoration on that, it's beyond >> nonsense.
>> You can do the exterior, but the problem is with like >> nonsense.
>> I would want a boat that I can go out on.
>> You have no vision.
>> No, listen. Right. I would want a boat that I can go out on.
>> I'm just going to have a cigarette.
>> And those engines on the boat, they just need to be ripped out. The new ones in >> That's That's a whole other story.
>> Exactly. And then you got to rip the whole ceiling out and it's just not working. I've been hearing some [ __ ] weird noises on that boat lately.
>> Like what?
>> I don't know. I don't know if it's a neighbor.
>> Sounds like someone's living in the B.
>> Like coughing noises. I mean, I don't know.
>> Maybe dad is living under the boat after all.
>> The cat the cat can hear it, too. But I think it's the neighbor on the neighboring yacht, and I think he's just dead loud, >> probably.
>> Yeah. Well, you got to remember it's coming up to summer now. People are going to start coming back out to their boats. They leave in Spain.
>> Oh my god, I didn't tell you. I found a skin in my bedroom yesterday.
>> A skin?
>> Yeah.
>> What do you mean a skin?
>> Like a shed?
>> Yeah.
>> Of what? A snake?
>> It was about that big. Well, narrow.
>> Are you talking about like actual diameter or the length?
>> This this kind of size, length, and width. I threw it in the bin. Well, it >> seems quite small.
>> It was skin.
Definitely snake skin.
>> No, not definitely. But you know, I thought I heard a [ __ ] snake.
>> It's highly unlikely there's a snake on the boat.
>> Well, the cat's on the boat.
>> Well, even good luck to the snake.
>> What would the snake eat, you know? A little bit of build water.
>> They sleep, they hibernate, don't when it's cold in the >> Yeah, I suppose I seem to remember when Samantha had snakes. We only had to feed it like once a week, didn't we?
>> The cat will kill it.
>> Yeah, >> the cat will kill it. But how would a snake even get onto the boat?
>> I don't Well, that's I don't know. I've seen a lot.
>> I mean, maybe a water snake goes up the exhaust pipe.
>> Listen, I've seen a lot of videos.
>> That's possible. A lot of videos. There have been a lot of sea snakes >> jump trying to jump into boats for people in the Mediterranean, and they're quite poisonous.
>> I've actually just had a thought.
>> There's been a lot of them in marinas.
>> I've just had a thought, though. Those exhaust tips on the boat, they go to >> they go to the engine.
It's sealed off. Is it?
>> Cuz I mean, it's generally okay cuz you've got a big goose neck and then there's a resonator as well.
>> I wouldn't be able to get in that way, but I mean they could come off a rope.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh yeah, I suppose. So, also speaking of, how's um the little boat coming along? Have you done anything else to it?
>> No, because the weather's only just warmed up. I mean, today is the first time it's felt mild and it's still overcast.
>> Oh, also mind having a look at that boiler cuz I took a shower this morning and again the [ __ ] water was cold.
Maybe try it from the messaging.
>> There's no way that the the bottle's gone out that quick. Then again though, thinking about it, um I got on when we changed the bottle last, I could smell um LPG.
>> Yeah, that's normal.
>> No, but like I couldn't tell if it was coming from the bottle or from the boiler. And it could be that maybe the regulator isn't sealing properly anymore.
>> Yeah, I wonder.
>> And then the bottle's run out completely cuz is it going warm at all?
How heavy does the bottle feel?
>> Well, it's brown in the bottle for [ __ ] sake. I just bought it the other day.
>> Yeah, I know. That's why I'm thinking like cuz I seem to remember smelling.
>> It's probably the regulator. You do need to change them once in a while.
>> You can get them from car.
>> I get them from Repsol down the corner.
>> Yeah, I think Carl sell them for cheaper though.
>> The chinos sell them.
>> Yeah, that's probably why they break.
>> Nonsense.
>> Get from the Chinese shop. Alibaba. It's a regular thing that needs changing.
>> Yeah.
Also, um I want to show you a picture that I drew last night. I'm quite happy with it. Quite pleased.
Would you mind grabbing my notebook from the living room?
Basically, since I've finished my studies and my exams, I haven't known what to do with myself, and I've been struggling to sleep at night. So, I thought, well, I'll I'll just draw some pictures because I used to be quite good at drawing. I used to take quite a lot of pride in it.
>> Yeah, you were always good at you both good at drawing.
>> Yeah. I went to King Sushi with my girlfriend the other day and I thought, well, [ __ ] it. I'll I'll draw that.
And that that's uh I know it's not the best drawing, but it's all right. It was something I did over a very small period of time. And uh this is also my notebook with all of my studies in it. Like I've got pages up among pages up among pages of notes all over the last I don't know how long.
Month, two months. It's just been every day. Boom boom boom boom boom.
And uh now I'm done. I'm done with it all. What I think I might do is uh how do you think people would like me giving small snippets of knowledge in short videos?
>> Knowledge the fountain of Ben's knowledge.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, do it.
>> Well, I think that I find more enjoyment in making short content than long content.
It's just short content. Not many people tend to watch or interact with them.
They just see it and scroll on. And it's a bit more difficult than making a long form video like this, you know, just chatting away and talking about a load of nonsense.
But what are you doing, Madre? Why how come you're you're in the garden now ignoring >> having a [ __ ] I'm coming back.
I'm coming back.
>> She's having a [ __ ] And for those of you that are in the United States, that does not mean a homosexual. It means a cigarette.
>> Do you know that word has many, many meanings?
>> Oh, I'm sure it does have many, many, many, many, many meanings because uh a meatball is also called that, as Byron pointed out. And uh if somebody who's got an English accent comes up to you in the United States and asks you if they can bum a [ __ ] they're not asking if they can have intercourse with a homosexual. They're asking for a cigarette.
>> Yeah, we've covered all this on my channel.
>> I covered lexicology the other day.
>> Oh, on the topic of ecology, >> I said to Ban the other day, "What is a faggot?" And he said, >> "Meatballs."
>> Meatball and gravy. I said, "Okay, give me another definition." And he said, "Why little crybaby bitch?" And I went, >> "Thank you."
>> Yeah. But on the topic of allies, have you seen what's been recently happening to the Scientology Foundation?
>> No.
>> Number one, are you familiar with what Scientology is?
>> Yes.
>> It's a cult that just >> tends to get money out of you left and right.
>> Yeah. And uh so what's been happening recently is teenagers have been breaking into the building through the front door >> and doing a thing called a Scientology speed run where effectively they run through the building as fast as they can and then when they leave that's their run. They have to get as far into the building as they can without getting uh caught by security.
Now, it sounds a bit stupid at first, but it gets quite funny.
>> Mhm.
>> They've started their own forums online mapping out the interior of these buildings so that they can get further and further runs.
>> What's What's the point of them doing this?
>> Well, it's just something that they do.
And it's the only type of building that I can agree with breaking and entering since it's such a cult.
>> Question. Where's the big frying pan?
>> Big frying pan >> like this but larger. That is it.
>> No, there's a bigger one than that.
>> Could it be in the other cupboard?
>> No, not that one. The other one.
>> No, I can't see it anywhere.
>> Could it be in this closer one?
>> Oh, I see.
>> There you go. Nobody's stolen it.
Awesome. I need to grab a knife.
I normally have a knife on standby because >> to itch your leg. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Knew it.
>> Oh, that's been driving me crazy just now. Brilliant.
>> And yes, I will be using this knife later without washing it.
>> Don't be silly.
>> How I am. I am a bit of a hillbilly in that matter.
But it is what it is. I think after that I'm going to have a nice successful glass of water. [ __ ] Jesus has done it again.
>> I need to lay off as the >> Stop blaspheming.
>> I'm not blaspheming.
>> I don't even know the definition of that word. So, how can I blaspheme?
>> Did you see Russell Brand on Pierce Morgan?
>> Nope.
>> And I'm not going to because he's got rape allegations. It was a very interesting interview. But there was at one point Pier Pier said to him, "When you went to court, you had a Bible in your hand." And Russell said, "Yes, I had this very Bible." And um we will wash that knife, guys, by the way. He's I'm will not allow that. And uh so Pier said, "Which part of the Bible were you reading?" And he said, "Oh, I'm glad you asked me that." Anyway, it took ages for Russell to find the part and then he couldn't find the part. Don't get it stuck down there.
>> Just keep talking, telling your story.
>> Have you got it stuck down?
>> No, I don't.
>> Keep telling the story.
>> Anyway, um it was from the book of Isaiah, which is actually really difficult, but I'm sure you've never read any of the Bible, have you?
>> Yeah, I have.
>> Have you?
>> I've read the lot.
>> Have you?
>> What did you think of the book of Isaiah?
thought he was very airey.
>> I haven't read a page.
>> The book of Isaiah is a load of prophecies, but it's like a load of books that all give the same prophecy.
Well, each in slightly different ways. I mean, to me, it comes across as a load of parallel universes. It's like God saying [ __ ] can play out this way but also this way this. It's a really it's it's a book where if someone says oh I've got a quote from the book of Isaiah you anyone would be hard pushed to find it again because it all looks a lot alike.
>> I'll tell you what it sounds like to me.
It sounds like when something factual happens and different medias of different swinging levels left and right make their own stories on it. There are essences of truth but there's always their twist whether it be towards the right or towards the left or any other direction down left right. Um, I was really into reading the Bible until I hit Isaiah and then it it was just such a mind bend. I gave up trying to understand what it was. And I I like puzzled over it for about a week. Kept coming on your dad. Your dad was like, "You're turning into my mother. You're getting worse than my mother." It was You remember Granny Pam? She read the Bible about 16 times. And >> um, so I just >> 17.
>> Yes. Yes. I I remember all of that. But you see, this is the thing is if it's so confusing that even the reader doesn't understand it, then >> it's like a puzzle.
>> That mean no, it's not a puzzle. It means that you're trying to look for anything that could even slightly correlate to it. That's why so many people fall to religion. They go, "Oh my god."
>> Not at all. Not at all. And seeing as you've never read it, you've never even read Genesis. I bet you don't even know who Adam and Eve are.
>> Yeah, I know who Adam and Eve are.
>> Who are they? Oh, there were them two geysers that [ __ ] and Eve ate an apple that she wasn't supposed to. We We're all supposed to derive from them, aren't we? But Eve was evil and she ate the apple and um >> don't even get me started on >> died or something.
>> Benji and I had a discussion >> about what?
>> Charles Darwin >> and the theory of evolution. I'm just not into the theory of evolution. Not at all.
>> Well, they are proven.
>> Have they? Have they? How >> over generations of animals they can see how they evolve by >> how how come they don't continue >> they do >> like what it happens over a very long time. If you take the fossil of one animal and you compare it to the fossil of the same animal but you can backdate it based off of the layers of it underneath the earth. You'll see oh this one has a slightly different bone structure. Why would that be? And they talk about how >> and I explained it to him very simply how it works in my opinion. This is my theory.
>> Yeah.
>> God made man. But before he got it right, he made the Mark 1, Mark 2, Mark III, Mark 4, Mark 5, and then finally thought, "Yep, that's good." So, did your PlayStation One evolve into a PlayStation 5, or was there a creator who thought, "I can improve on this design?" Well, it evolved via the creator and fever.
>> Well, exactly. So, if we're talking evolution, we're talking God's evolution, not Charles Darwin. This is how genetics some geyser on on the beetle who stopped on the [ __ ] Galapagus.
>> This is how genetics works is your body goes, hm, how is this designed or there's an says I can improve on this? No, based on the exterior feedback of the human body, it makes minor changes over generations upon generations. If you look at, for example, uh people have have done recreations of sort of older animals and they've noticed that the the nostrils are significantly smaller than that of today's date.
>> Okay.
>> And they say that well the environment must have been extremely oxygenrich. you were going to use a different analogy then weren't okay >> that's that's what it is and so you know over time nostrils have gotten bigger as oxygen levels I suppose have gotten less dense >> it's all making total sense to me as opposed to there is a supreme being who created us and thought I can't get it to stand up properly yet I need to work on the feet this is complicated it's more difficult than I thought and then he made another model and thought well they're standing up a little bit more and he made another model and another model until he came up with the perfect model.
>> I I don't need to go into it cuz I'm not I'm going in circles.
>> I think we're amiebas in comparison.
>> We're going in circles on it. It's you can look into it and educate yourself on it or you can >> or I can educate myself on it >> or you can deny it and just stick with your own theory. I mean, it's called the theory of evolution because it's a theory.
>> Yeah. Until we time travel and go back >> can't define it, don't we?
>> I remember this rabbi we had on the dolphin boat and oh, your father was in stitches. Why?
>> Because there was two other customers in the office and this I think it was an English guy. He said, you know, of course, billions of years ago, blah blah blah happened. And this rabbi said, "But the earth is only 5,000 years old." And your dad burst out laughing because the guy, you know, he was saying, "The earth is only five." And it really, this other fellow got his knickers in such a [ __ ] twist. And the rabbi was like, "Well, you can argue all you like.
That's it. Earth is 5,000 years old."
And you, because this guy wound this other fellow up so much afterwards, your dad said, "I want to shake your hand.
That was [ __ ] hilarious. Thank you."
And then you think about an a dolphin trip. And this rabbi was still, I don't see what's so funny. It's 5,000 years old.
You see, a theory is a theory. And people who believe in a theory should expect it to be challenged.
>> Yes. And as I say, your PlayStation didn't have lots of other little PlayStations and evolved into a place.
>> No. Because that's an electronic device that was evolved. Technological advancements.
>> We're just maths. We're made of mass.
>> We're We're genetics. We're living beings.
>> We're all made of carbon.
>> We have little beings in us that change our molecular structures and stuff via our DNA.
>> And that part is true because you can see microorganisms evolve over time via a microscope. You know, you can see from >> Yeah.
>> a bacteria.
>> Yeah. We are that >> on a large scale. That's why it takes such a long time to change. Are you absolutely certain of that?
>> Well, you look at all the sciencebacked data.
>> Like, >> [ __ ] Google it.
>> That's your answer. Use Google. See, you can't quote off the top of your head.
>> No, because I don't look into it.
>> Because you don't give a [ __ ] >> I don't give a [ __ ] You're right.
>> You're just agreeing with a Because a lot of people believe in it.
>> Yeah.
>> You're not looking into it any deeper than that.
>> No.
>> You're the ultimate generation. I'm questioning. That's what I like to hear >> because it No, but the thing is it's not relevant.
>> I need to get the cheese out of the fridge.
>> It's It's 100% not relevant to me. What?
>> The cheese that evolved from milk. This was once milk.
>> Yeah. Anyways, it's been 38 minutes. I should probably leave it there. Let us know your opinions in the comments, ladies and gentlemen. Good night, good morning, good evening, good afternoon.
May your God go with you.
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