Matt Slick Live, 5/7/2026

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[00:00:08]Matt Slick Live, granted. Taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276.

[00:00:16]Here's Matt Slick. All right, and welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick. You're listening to Matt Slick Live. If you want to give me a call, >> [clears throat] >> as usual, all you got to do is dial 877- 207-2276.

[00:00:32]And uh we can blab. And you can send an email to me also, [email protected] [email protected].

[00:00:40]Put in the subject line with a comment or radio question, and we can get to you.

[00:00:46]All right, we got nobody waiting right now. I got questions I can get to, or I can just kind of let you know about uh little little bit of an encounter. Not a big deal. I went on TikTok last night, and I did what's called a live.

[00:01:01]And that means I just start uh a video, and people come into the room, and uh then we have to discussions.

[00:01:09]>> [clears throat] >> And I have to keep control of the room, because we don't want people to come in who uh you know, three, four, five, six, seven, eight people all at once, and then uh they just start blabbing and over talking, and you know, so we've had that problem before.

[00:01:23]Well, these two atheist guys came in last night, and they were um one was let's say obstreperous, yeah, and the other one wasn't. But what was interesting is both of them did the same thing, something I've encountered so many times talking with atheists, and I mean so many times.

[00:01:39]It's uh the idea that they don't want to present anything uh from their own view that could be examined.

[00:01:47]And uh so, you know, with this one guy, you know, he would he would tell me about uh some stuff in the Old Testament. And uh and And he said he didn't Well, you know, are you Do you ask me do you approve or disapprove of what God does? And I said, well, I think what God does is right.

[00:02:08]And uh And that's all I would say, you know.

[00:02:10]And >> [clears throat] >> And uh he wanted me to commit to something. And uh I I asked him I said, well, are you giving me your opinion?

[00:02:20]Are you telling me that what God does is wrong?

[00:02:24]And he wouldn't commit. Now, atheists know better. You see, they know better than committing. Say, well, it's wrong.

[00:02:28]Then I'm going to I'm going to slash them, right? And well, then what universal standard do you have by which you can judge this? And they know that because they know they don't they don't have a standard. So, the only thing they have is their opinion. And so, I would say to him, well, okay, so that's your opinion about something. Okay, now what do you want to talk about? And he got upset with me because I wouldn't engage him.

[00:02:48]And uh I said, well, you just gave me your opinion. Uh what do you want me to do?

[00:02:52]I mean, you're entitled to your opinion.

[00:02:54]So, now what do you want to talk about?

[00:02:55]And So, I did this to the two atheists. And let's just say they didn't like it. What they do uh they they prefer is uh someone who will uh tell them that they're wrong so that they can then attack uh the the Christian. And I wouldn't play the game.

[00:03:17]And uh this guy one guy got upset with me.

[00:03:20]And uh he says, uh oh, is this a script you're using? And I said, well, we all use scripts one way or another, rehearsed, whatever that we say and do. I said, you're the one who wants to try and trap me. I said, I I know what you guys do.

[00:03:34]And I said, I'm just not giving you the ability to do it. You know, why don't you uh just ask me something specific? Or why don't you make a statement and then we can see if your statement is is viable or not. And he wouldn't do it.

[00:03:48]And this is the thing I've noticed about atheists is uh they don't want to really argue and discuss things. They want to only attack. I find it most really interesting. I really do.

[00:04:00]In the literally hundreds, maybe thousands of conversations I've had with atheists over many years, what I've discovered is uh they will hold positions that uh that they want to say cannot be attacked, cannot be assailed. They don't want to defend anything.

[00:04:20]So, they'll say, "Well, we just lack belief. We're not committing to anything. Just It's just a lack of belief." And I say, "Well, lack of belief is belief because you behave based on what you believe, not what you don't believe. So, if I were to ask you what's your position and you're to say you lack belief in God." And I say, "Well, the Bible says God exists." Well, then if you just lack belief in God, you shouldn't say he does or doesn't. You should just say, "Well, you just lack belief." Well, if it's lack, that's nothing. So, what are you going to argue from? From your nothing position?

[00:04:48]And so, atheists don't like talking to me because I don't play their stupid games, and I know how to see through them.

[00:04:55]And like I said before, what they always want to do is have me make a a statement uh you know, like if I say atheism can't this or can't that, then they want me to justify all forms of atheism, everything, and all the time.

[00:05:11]And >> [clears throat] >> when then what I'll do sometimes is I'll I'll ask atheists, "Okay, what's your particular view inside of atheism?"

[00:05:18]Because I want to know what who I'm talking with, what your particular view is so I can direct my arguments to you and your position. And he says, "Nope, not giving my position. Just atheism as a general rule."

[00:05:29]And this to me is disingenuous because they're not interested, as is obvious, in real discussion.

[00:05:35]I think what it comes down to is they only want a something that they can continue to use to justify their denial of God.

[00:05:47]I I I That's That's what I believe. They can't do anything uh to substantiate their position, and so they just want to go in. I think it's to make themselves feel better.

[00:05:58]I think it's what it is is to attack Christians and to attack Christian apologists and then be just be dissatisfied with any answers that the Christian apologist would give.

[00:06:09]And just say, "Well, he couldn't answer the question.

[00:06:11]So, therefore, my atheism is is valid."

[00:06:15]And this is the kind of stuff I find pretty common among atheists. At least that's the opinion I have about their motives. I think their motives are disingenuous themselves.

[00:06:24]Anyway, that's what discussion I had last night couple of them. And then people got in and we started talking other things, baptism a little bit and some other stuff. And there for about an hour and a half or so. I do enjoy just answering questions.

[00:06:37]I thoroughly enjoy just people saying, "What about this? What about that?" So, if you have a question and you want to give me a call, you can. 877 20 7 2276.

[00:06:50]I want to hear from you. Now, since we don't have any callers right now and you can send me an email like I said to [email protected] [email protected].

[00:07:02]You can email me there with the subject line radio comment, radio question, either one of those and we can get to it. So, what I'm going to do now is just get to some emails. Some of you questions that have been sent in um And uh we We've had a lot of a lot of times the same topic will come up.

[00:07:21]Here's Here it is again.

[00:07:23]Uh I have a youth who uses dream catchers and I'm looking information on some apologetics and mysticism.

[00:07:30]Uh so, dream catchers dream catchers are Native Indian designs that are supposed to help you not have bad dreams. Mostly to thwart off bad dreams.

[00:07:44]And so, this is an occultic practice to have an object that you put in your room or your car that wards off evil spirits.

[00:07:52]This is a form of sorcery and uh it's it's mysticism. And so, as Christians, we need to stay away from that kind of stuff. Don't put dream catchers headers in your car in your house so you can sleep dream better.

[00:08:04]That's bad. If you just like the design and that's all it is, well, okay.

[00:08:10]I like the design. Some people like Indian art, some don't. Some like African art, some don't. But, if you like it and that's it, uh then then no big deal.

[00:08:20]But, as long as you're not using it for the purpose of thwarting negativity.

[00:08:26]And that's another thing.

[00:08:27]Is um I've been to uh New Age conventions and um I I still remember still remember at one booth I was at I was talking to to uh some some New Agers and they were uh talking about negative energy.

[00:08:43]And I've always thought that was really interesting. What is negative energy?

[00:08:47]And apparently, it has something to do with attitude. So, attitude is um you know, if it's bad energy, it means you're wishing harm.

[00:08:55]Well, logically, an energy doesn't have personhood, doesn't have characteristics in it. So, uh uh you know, personal ability. So, what is it then that this energy is? If it's impersonal, how does it have negative negativity in the attitudes that you're talking about?

[00:09:12]And uh they can't answer the question. And And when I've asked questions like this of New Agers, I've noticed what they'll do is uh they they just say, "We're not talking to you anymore. Go away."

[00:09:24]Darn, you know, just thinking really stumps a lot of people.

[00:09:28]Let's get to Isabella from North Carolina. Isabella, welcome.

[00:09:32]You're on the air.

[00:09:33]Hello? Hi. How are you?

[00:09:36]I'm fine. Good. You got a question?

[00:09:40]Yes, I was wondering like how should we like honor and keep the Sabbath holy?

[00:09:48]Wow. Um the idea of the Sabbath uh originally on Saturday was to not work. And it represented salvation because we would work and then we would rest and God is our rest. Jesus is our rest. So, the Saturday Sabbath was designed to give us rest and it pointed ahead to the personal work of Jesus.

[00:10:12]Now that he's here and or that he's he's come he's done his sacrifice and he's in heaven, we don't have to technically not work on that day. Our attitude about that day is generally in the sense of keeping it holy is that we refrain from doing those things that we might consider to be work so that we can devote extra time to the word of God, to understanding Christ better, studying, hearing the preaching and teaching of the word. That's the kind of thing. That it's set apart from other days for basically more holy spiritual uses. Okay?

[00:10:55]Are you Are you there?

[00:10:58]Yes. Okay. All right. Does that help any?

[00:11:02]Yeah.

[00:11:04]Now, just so you know, we don't have to keep the Sabbath. It's not a law for Christians.

[00:11:10]But we're free on that day to rest. And so, for me, I work in this ministry. I work 6 days a week every month every week 6 days a week.

[00:11:21]>> [clears throat] >> We've been doing this for years and years and years.

[00:11:23]On Sunday, I don't do any ministry work.

[00:11:27]I I'll watch TV. I'll go buy groceries.

[00:11:29]But to me, that's not work. That's part of the rest because my work is what I'm resting from. My work being this ministry, radio, and writing books, and articles, and things like that. Okay?

[00:11:46]All right. You there?

[00:11:48]Yep.

[00:11:49]Thanks.

[00:11:50]Okay. Well, there you go. Okay, well, God bless.

[00:11:54]All right.

[00:11:56]>> [clears throat] >> So, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276.

[00:12:04]You can also email me [email protected] [email protected].

[00:12:10]And uh put the subject line radio comment or radio question and we'll get to them. Let's see. Here's another email um question sent in. I'm just curious uh you guys' thoughts on Paul Washer. I love what he teaches and his call for repentance, but I feel that he leans very close on salvation by works through repentance.

[00:12:28]He makes it seem as if no one will get into heaven.

[00:12:31]I personally struggle with sin daily.

[00:12:32]Therefore, yeah, I don't know enough about Paul Washer. Uh he's kind of come off out of the scene of popularity a little bit lately.

[00:12:39]I just haven't heard much about him. Um >> [clears throat] >> if I were to interview him and just ask technical questions, you know, to see what his view is, I could give you a better answer, but I don't know.

[00:12:50]Um he says there are things in this this person's past that he's not got to have is not gotten total freedom from, but I've gotten better. I go to the cross each time. Oh, praise God. Anyway, how um I'm not concerned about my faith. I trust the Lord know that I will see him.

[00:13:05]I'm concerned about this message Paul Washer teaches. Not that it's not good.

[00:13:10]That it kind of puts people in bondage thinking they have to live holy lives to really be saved. Well, that'd be interesting if uh if anyone has information like that from Paul Washer, and if you want to take a clip or two that you think shows that, then send it to me at [email protected].

[00:13:27]What I'm going to be starting to do is uh do commentary on videos. You know, what me sitting there too. Anyway, so there you go. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276.

[00:13:40]We'll be right back.

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[00:17:03]>> [clears throat] >> He meant explain talk.

[00:17:09]Okay.

[00:17:10]>> He meant explain start. Okay, sounds good.

[00:17:13]All right. Well, hey, we're back. Had a little bit of a computer issue there, not on my end, on their end, and Keith let me know.

[00:17:19]So, folks, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-22- 76. Let's get to Corey from Utah. Corey, welcome. You're on the air.

[00:17:30]Hi, Matt. How are you doing?

[00:17:32]>> [clears throat] >> Doing okay by God's grace.

[00:17:34]What do you got?

[00:17:36]Um by my God's grace, yes.

[00:17:39]I have a question in regards to well, mental [clears throat] health and therapy.

[00:17:46]Does experiencing extreme anxiety while [clears throat] also attempting to use a therapist to manage it um indicate a lack of trust in God? Or does it fall [clears throat] under general grace?

[00:18:04]Yeah, it's not a problem. Go go see a therapist if you need one. It's no big deal.

[00:18:08]Um there are all kinds of people who have all kinds of of giftings and callings in the world. You go to a doctor when you're you're sick. You go to a therapist when you need someone to talk to and and help you out. It's not a problem at all. I have no problem. And my wife, she would see a therapist because before she passed away, she had a lot of physical problems. They were playing you know, playing with her mind.

[00:18:33]I mean, it wasn't crazy, but you know, a bit of depression there cuz it was so difficult and I had I was supporting her. Yeah, go talk to someone. You know, cuz you could not to me, she could talk to you, someone else.

[00:18:44]And uh no problem. You know, so do what if you do that? Yeah, praise God. Go for it. All right?

[00:18:53]Thank you very much, Matt.

[00:18:56]Yeah, my my understanding was it fell under a generalized grace and just you know, uh you know, learning to try to continue to trust God for his provision, for his with his mercy.

[00:19:13]My I mean I have the uh the understanding that uh >> [clears throat] >> that God's not limited to the supernatural, that he uses people and and tools to work Absolutely.

[00:19:31]>> out for for believers' life.

[00:19:34]Well, you know, in a in a in a similar way, a pastor preaching is therapy.

[00:19:41]Because he's giving wisdom, admonition, correction.

[00:19:45]And we go to church, and it's kind of therapeutic sometimes to sit in with other believers and stuff.

[00:19:51]So, it's not a problem, but a specialized therapist, yeah, you can go.

[00:19:56]All right. God uses all kinds of people.

[00:19:59]Doctors, uses medicine, food, uses therapists. I went to a therapist when I was younger, uh back in the day. I I was my late teens, and saw somebody for a while. It was very helpful.

[00:20:12]Because sometimes what you do is you just you find yourself talking and saying things, and things come out, and they clue in on stuff that you just don't recognize, and they can bring it up.

[00:20:23]And help you deal with things.

[00:20:25]Because they're trained for it. And if it's a Christian to do that, that's all the better. And mine was Christian.

[00:20:31]All right.

[00:20:33]All right. Hey, thanks very much, Matt.

[00:20:35]Sure, no problem at all, brother.

[00:20:37]Yeah.

[00:20:39]All right.

[00:20:40]Okay.

[00:20:41]>> [clears throat] >> You know, folks, uh look, some people think that if you go to take medicine, you go to a doctor, you go to a therapist, you're not trusting God.

[00:20:52]That's not true.

[00:20:55]It's not true. If your car breaks down, and you go to a mechanic, does it mean you're not trusting God?

[00:21:00]If your air conditioning breaks down, you get an HVAC guy out, or girl, and you say, "Could you please fix that?"

[00:21:07]That's not a problem. And if you're sick and you can't break it and you go to a doctor, what's wrong with that?

[00:21:13]So, I go to a doctor once every 6 to 8 months and because I have early stages of diabetes. Um but I'm under the number and I I stay under the number. I just go get a blood test once every 6 to 8 months and the doctor he's been saying this for years now, "Hey, whatever you're doing, keep doing it."

[00:21:32]And that's it.

[00:21:34]And there's nothing wrong with that. I don't have to take anything. In fact, I forget about it. Just bringing it up now. Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Because they told me that like several years ago. And I have friends who one friend in particular, he's got an issue like that and he said he doesn't even worry about it.

[00:21:52]And he knows about this stuff. He just says, "Whatever." He just just goes on.

[00:21:56]Now, we all have people we needed to go to for help. There's nothing wrong with that. You're not disobeying God and you're not demonstrating a lack of faith in God. All right? And I hated that the stupid theologians get on false theologians say if you are healthy and wealthy is cuz you have faith and if you get sick and you're poor, you don't have faith. That is a lie from the devil.

[00:22:23]All right? Who makes the eye blind, the ear deaf, the tongue dumb? Is it not I the Lord? Exodus 4:11. God has made these things and even some people like that for his purpose. And so, we get into that topic all all together. But if you're in a state and in a condition and you need help, go get it.

[00:22:43]Go get it. Just know you know this that doctors and therapists and stuff counselors are tools and can be tools in the hands of God. Just don't use them to replace God.

[00:22:58]If you just don't consider God anymore, you don't pray anymore. You just trust whatever doctor says or therapist says.

[00:23:03]Well, that's not that's not good. But with prayer and then you go to those whom God has has granted that wisdom in order to do what you got to do. All right? Okay.

[00:23:14]If you want to give me a call, the number's 877-207-2276.

[00:23:19]Let's get to Phyllis from North Carolina. Phyllis, welcome. You're on the air. Hi Matt, how are you? I'm doing fine by God's grace. So, it's good stuff. I have a quick question on Psalms 119. Psalm 119, okay.

[00:23:35]>> Okay. Yes, 119. Okay.

[00:23:38]>> [snorts] >> I was reading out of the King James Version and on each section of that chapter there's these letters in cap like Beth, Vain, uh what's the definition of those? What is it? Mhm.

[00:23:55]Those are the letters of the Hebrew alphabet.

[00:23:57]And so what it's doing is going through them.

[00:24:00]Okay.

[00:24:01]Just going through them.

[00:24:02]That's that's all.

[00:24:04]No no big deal. It's just scripture Go ahead. Okay, got it. It is no big deal, just the alphabet. Yeah. Aleph, Beth, Gimel, Daleth, Heh. Okay.

[00:24:14]>> Those are the letters like A, B, C, D.

[00:24:18]In Hebrew, it's it's uh it's those.

[00:24:21]Aleph, Beth, Gimel, Daleth, Heh. When we were in Hebrew class in seminary, we had to learn the alphabet. That's the alphabet.

[00:24:29]So, it's just doing that. What's the purpose of that? Excuse me. Well, I don't know. What's the purpose of having it right there like that? I'm not sure.

[00:24:36]Uh it might have something to do with the the letters that it represents starting more stuff in the the text. I don't know. I haven't checked. But that's what it is. It's not a big deal.

[00:24:47]In fact, check this out. The first letter is Aleph and the second second is Beth. Aleph, Beth, alphabet. Alphabet, Aleph, Beth.

[00:24:59]Okay. that's where we get our alphabet from. Okay? I would not would not know.

[00:25:04]Thank you so much. You're welcome. Enjoy your show so much. Bye-bye.

[00:25:08]>> Very good. Thank you.

[00:25:10]All right, we have nobody waiting. If you want to call give me a call, all you got to do is dial 877-207 >> [clears throat] >> 2276.

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[00:25:23]Let's try this.

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[00:29:04]Here's Matt Slick. All right, and welcome back to the show. Let Oh, bottom of the hour. Wait, did the clock stop?

[00:29:12]Yeah, I'm watching dog. Got thrown off there. Okay. Bottom of the hour if you want to give me a call. 877-207-2276.

[00:29:20]Let's get to Brian from North Carolina.

[00:29:22]Brian, welcome. You're on the air.

[00:29:25]Hey. Hey Matt. Uh, question for you. As I'm reading through Genesis, why did Noah only have three children when it says he started building the ark at 500? [clears throat] It took him 100 years to build the ark. Why did he only have three [snorts] kids?

[00:29:42]I don't think it says he only had three sons.

[00:29:46]Uh, if it says he only had those three, then that would be the case. But if it just says >> is the three sons the three sons and the wives and Noah and his wife the eight on the ark? Right. Yes, but logically, see, it doesn't say he only had three sons.

[00:29:59]He could have had more and others could have died and so the three sons that were left, that's why it could say uh, his three sons. Doesn't say he has only three sons. And maybe he had daughters, too, and they died off as well. Who knows? Uh, or another theory is that could be only relevant to the issue of who they represent and those people. And so they were the important ones and the other ones, maybe the other children if if there were, uh, were not obedient to God and and to Noah. So we can't say there's only there, but we can say that of those three we if there is, okay?

[00:30:36]Okay. Hey, I've got one more question Sure. regarding financing. Uh, and the example [snorts and clears throat] would be with building a tower to count the cost and make sure you have enough to finish it. With the digital ID coming out the next 18 months or supposedly, for an in for a Christian, should you invest in something that you're not sure that you'll be able to get a return on. For example, whether be rental property. But if you're not going to cooperate with the digital ID, then it seems like you would have money invested that you can't use.

[00:31:12]You can't get a return on.

[00:31:14]Well, this is a subjective thing here because um God says occupy until he returns. So, we are to do the best we can with what we can have in order to hopefully glorify God. If it's rental properties that you buy and you don't know if you can be able to retain them, if you know you can't and you do it, that's not wise. If you know you think you can and that's why you're doing that, then that's wise. You're you're seeking to to expand uh you know, that portfolio ultimately for the glory of God. That's actually the reason. If the digital ID comes along, I don't know to what extent it will be here, when, where, what they're going to require. Uh then uh uh then it's just something I can't answer. We have to see. Because if they start saying we can't buy and sell unless we have that, there's going to be lawsuits and rebellion all over the United States, obviously.

[00:32:03]It's not going to happen. Right. I'm just thinking I'm just thinking more defensively, do you keep some money in reserve and say, you know what, I'll forgo the investing and put more into preparing for the hard times.

[00:32:15]Well, that's wise and that's why the Bible talks about having several different sources. So, you know, you might have cash in your home. You might have gold and silver also in your home and or in the bank. Might have stocks.

[00:32:28]You might have um uh uh crypto. You might have different things that you're using, rental properties and and investments in other areas in order to get a you know a larger portfolio and that's just wise.

[00:32:43]So, that's what we should be doing.

[00:32:45]That's [clears throat] what I do. Okay.

[00:32:46]Yeah.

[00:32:47]Okay, yeah. I'm I'm doing a little bit of all that. So, I just didn't want to be overextended and then like I said, have money on paper but not that you can get access to.

[00:32:58]And you're right, it's going to be a a very difficult time if everything Mhm.

[00:33:03]locks up like it's going to happen.

[00:33:05]Yes, uh the enemy wants control and which political party wants to control your life? We yeah, we know which one that is.

[00:33:14]Yes.

[00:33:14]And so >> I I listen all the time and I'm a I'm a truck driver and I listen either on the way home or or with way back to the terminal and I I know where you stand and I agree 100%. Uh my question is another question is how can people call themselves Christians when they support the Democratic Party which is pro-death, pro-homosexual. It just it doesn't It flies in the face of the Bible.

[00:33:41]That's a question I've asked on the radio many times. You know, we're not supposed to as in some areas not supposed to support a political candidate. I do. I say it on the air. I I tell you who I support and who you should support.

[00:33:52]And if the government wants to come after me, okay. You know, they you know, take away my 501c3, fine, whatever. But the thing is Christians have no have no right to vote for candidates who in those areas you just mentioned, they support those. Those are ungodly and against the things of God. We Christians have no right supporting those. None.

[00:34:12]And they should not be in a in a any political party that supports those as well.

[00:34:18]>> [clears throat] >> That's right.

[00:34:19]>> Yeah.

[00:34:20]I would agree. Okay. Well, thank thank you for your time and your answers.

[00:34:23]Okay.

[00:34:24]>> You too. God bless.

[00:34:26]>> [cough and clears throat] >> All right, now let's get to Anne from North Carolina. Anne, welcome. You're on the air.

[00:34:33]Good afternoon. Thank you so much. Um my question is do you have suggestion of how to interact with Hindus?

[00:34:42]I have asked if their god is alive and they said yes.

[00:34:47]Okay, so Hinduism is polytheistic, which means there's many gods. And um so so they have different levels of gods, different things. They have uh incarnation of the divine, there's reincarnation.

[00:35:05]Uh so anyway, um I'm trying to think. So you're going to know how to witness to them, how to kind of reach them.

[00:35:17]Yeah, I'm I'm really good friends with them and and it still isn't Yeah.

[00:35:25]Well, >> [clears throat] >> yeah, you know, I hit my mind is going different directions because I want to get to them.

[00:35:31]And [clears throat] uh so they the the Hinduism is a wide it's a wide system.

[00:35:37]So even though some many Hindus will affirm only one god, they're functionally uh pluralistic and polytheistic.

[00:35:48]And oh man, there's just so many ways.

[00:35:53]So there's a lot there's logical ways which I won't get into because that's just not going to work. What I focus on mainly then just just to be simple is um it is hey, we have Jesus. He rose from the dead.

[00:36:06]And he claimed to be the only way.

[00:36:09]And that's John 14:6. And so they [clears throat] don't have a guy who was risen from the dead for 3 days.

[00:36:17]Now, if some [snorts] Hindu comes along and says, yes, we do. Just say, oh, well, can you show me that documentation?

[00:36:24]Where's it Where'd you get that? Let me see that.

[00:36:27]And uh a lot of times what they'll do is they'll they have writings that are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years after the original stories or legends has come in. A lot of times there are additions after the time of Christ when the resurrection of Christ became known around the world and then all of a sudden other religions have a resurrection story in them. So you have to ask for documentation if they if they were to say that this is the same case.

[00:36:54]And then hopefully they'll do that. And then you just focus on who Jesus is. He claimed to be and that's what I'll do with people. He claimed to be the creator.

[00:37:03]The God.

[00:37:05]And he became one of us to free us from our sin so that we can go be with him.

[00:37:11]And he died on that cross and rose three days later in the same body he died in.

[00:37:16]And so that's you're just giving them facts or giving them stuff.

[00:37:20]Now here's the question you can ask them because they believe in reincarnation, all right?

[00:37:25]>> [clears throat] >> So uh reincarnation and karma.

[00:37:30]And I've had moderate levels of success with this with with with them. I'll say you believe in reincarnation, they say yes, okay.

[00:37:38]And then there's logical I won't get into this but there's logical problems with an infinite regression of these things and then you get into the the the Brahma the ultimate and all this stuff anyway.

[00:37:48]So I'll say okay, so you were incarnated at a first point in in sometime in the past, that's correct. And your your karma at that point was was good because you did nothing wrong.

[00:38:02]You didn't have no no bad anything, no bad energy. Nothing that you'd done negative, it was all good because there was nothing you'd done, right? They say yes.

[00:38:11]Well then you had in your first incarnation you had perfect karma, it was it was flawless, right? They'll say yes, and say and yet you were reborn into another body."

[00:38:25]Well, if you were reborn another body with perfect karma, what makes you think you're going to get back to God with imperfect karma that you have now?

[00:38:34]You couldn't make it the first time. How can make it the second and third and fourth?

[00:38:39]And [clears throat] I've had had them say, "Oh, I never thought of that."

[00:38:42]I say, "Yeah." Mhm. Mhm.

[00:38:46]So, okay.

[00:38:48]And then, you always Okay. And then, what I do, depending on you know, if if a Hindu was uh was was in in my company, wanted to discuss this, I'd say, "May May I May I ask you questions?"

[00:38:59]Uh sure. And I always ask diagnostic questions because Hinduism is a broad religious system.

[00:39:06]And you can have uh pantheism, polytheism, and other stuff.

[00:39:11]And so, um uh within it. And so, I just ask questions where they're at. I'm a little more analytical. So, I'll ask more diagnostic questions. I'm, you know, putting in the back of my mind, "Okay, they said that that means this. I'm going to go a different direction." And then, I know where to to approach.

[00:39:28]But generally, average person, just focus on Jesus, okay, who he claimed to be, what he is. Okay?

[00:39:35]God bless you. All right. God bless you.

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[00:43:15]Cody from Ohio, welcome. You're on the air.

[00:43:20]Hey, Matt. Hey.

[00:43:22]>> Long time listener, how you doing? Doing all right, hanging in there. So, what do you got, buddy?

[00:43:27]Yeah, a side of listening and I, uh, I heard the last conversation about the, uh, about trying to witness to Hindus. I I feel like this is, um, equal, uh, across the board with sort of religiosity or just religions in general. How to appeal to people rather than get into an intellectual argument or a philosophical argument, you know, the how the Bible teaches [clears throat] it, with, uh, how how Jesus confronted people and um, Okay.

[00:43:59]>> and he asked them, you know, well, You have a question?

[00:44:02]>> heaven and what just, uh, um, take them through the Ten Commandments, the conscience, right?

[00:44:12]That would that would be something that's [clears throat] inarguable amongst all religions. You would just take them through what their conscience bears witness.

[00:44:19]You know, if they say, you know, they're a good person, you would say, "Well, how what what's good?" Here's what good is.

[00:44:25]Jesus said, you know, how Jesus defined good was moral perfection. Right.

[00:44:30]Yeah, that's like a Hindu Yes, perfect.

[00:44:33]Yes, perfectly valid. Yeah, yeah. Ask about their sins and what they've done right and wrong. It's just It's a very valid approach and what's going to happen to them. And then they say, "Well, then if you do something bad, you have a lower" Some views are different views of reincarnation. You have a lower level reincarnation and you're stuck in that lifetime till you learn and pay for what you did. So, their idea of of redemption comes through their own works over a long period of time.

[00:44:57]Yeah, that's right. There's There's problems there. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I know I don't know a whole lot about Hinduism and and Buddhism. So, you know, trying to talk to someone, most people don't know um >> [clears throat] >> polemic about other religions. So, that's all I just wanted to share that with Yeah, absolutely. We talk about their sin. I I've used that approach many times, even with atheists.

[00:45:24]And uh you know Yeah. ought you be punished or ought people be punished for people?

[00:45:30]And they say they always say, "Yes."

[00:45:32]Well, where do you get the ought from?

[00:45:35]And then that's an interesting discussion.

[00:45:37]All right. Right. All right.

[00:45:39]Well, All right. God bless.

[00:45:41]>> God bless. I just wanted to add help share.

[00:45:44]Okay. Well, God bless, brother. Thanks, man. Okay, good.

[00:45:48]All right. Now, let's get to Owen from Arizona. Owen, welcome. You're on the air.

[00:45:54]Hey, Matt. How you doing?

[00:45:56]Doing all right. So, what do you got?

[00:45:58]Good. Um hey, so me and my friend are having this uh Well, let's even it, a debate or just a regular conversation, but we were talking about the laws of logic and he was just kind of saying that they're just brute facts and I was saying I was saying that uh they're more grounded in God, but I couldn't really give a good explanation. Could you help me um explain a little bit more further how the laws of logic are grounded in God in God? Yes. Uh when someone says they're just brute facts, they're not giving an explanation, they're just making a statement, a claim. If they're going to say they're just brute facts, I'm going to ask them to define what it means to be a brute fact and what must be the condition in which a brute fact is what it is.

[00:46:42]It's so brute fact, just saying it's a brute fact is not an explanation. Like I said, it's a refusal to explain.

[00:46:49]It Mhm.

[00:46:50]>> Yeah, I get it. It It violates the principle of sufficient reasons. They're not grounding anything. They're just saying it just They just are.

[00:46:57]And then what I'll say to them when they say that, I say, "Oh, it So, the laws of logic are just brute facts." Or they'll say axiomatic truths. And they say, "Yes." I said, "Oh, it's just just way it is." Yeah, okay. Well, then God just exists.

[00:47:10]Because if you say it just is the way it is, then I can say, "Then God just exists." So, next.

[00:47:16]That's what I'll do. I'll say, "Next."

[00:47:17]Because you know, I can use the same argument, okay?

[00:47:21]Yeah, that's true. Yeah. All right. Now, so ask them questions. Is logic physical?

[00:47:30]Very basic question. They're going to say, "Well, no." Good. Okay. Is that a physical thing? You can't You can't hold it in your hand, can you? A physical object. No. All right. So, uh is is is logic a property of the physical realm?

[00:47:45]Now, this is a little bit more questioning.

[00:47:47]And uh hopefully he might He'll hopefully say, "Well, no." But many of them say, "Yes." They say, "Okay."

[00:47:55]Well, if it's a property of the physical realm, then it should be measurable.

[00:47:59]Such properties of the physical realm are mass, uh volume, uh refraction, conduction, things that we have that are properties or characteristics of the physical realm and we can measure them all.

[00:48:15]We can measure them.

[00:48:17]>> And say, "Okay, so we can we can measure refraction. We can measure mass.

[00:48:22]Uh we can measure acceleration, momentum to exchange energy conversion, entropy, various things. We can measure these things." All right.

[00:48:32]So, those are properties dealing with the physical realm. Yes, okay. Well, if the laws of logic are properties, then you should be able to measure them, right?

[00:48:41]Uh Mhm. No, you can't.

[00:48:44]So, they're not properties of the Then they're not properties of the physical realm, are they?

[00:48:49]>> So, now what we've done is gotten him hopefully to the point where he'll recognize that the laws of logic are not dependent on the physical universe because what they want to say is we just observe them.

[00:49:01]You observe a law?

[00:49:03]No, laws aren't observed. Laws and observation occurs in the mind.

[00:49:09]So, what you observe and what >> yeah. what you observe and what I observe may not be the exact same thing.

[00:49:15]This is the problem of what's called empiricism, that you learn about everything about through your senses.

[00:49:20]Well, you don't know if your senses are are accurate, if you and I are seeing the exact same thing.

[00:49:24]>> And there may be some ramifications there. All right. So, the goal here is once we get to see he gets to see that these laws are not dependent on the physical universe because if they were, they'd be properties of the physical universe, but properties are measurable, laws of logic are not measurable, therefore they're not properties of the physical realm, which means if the physical realm disappeared, it doesn't affect the reality of the laws of logic because they're not dependent upon the universe.

[00:49:50]If they're not dependent >> Okay. If they're not dependent upon the universe, then what are they dependent upon? If you say they're just they're just facts, they just exist. I say, "Well, God just exists. Okay, well, I settled that one. So, I win that argument."

[00:50:02]>> Right.

[00:50:03]Because if you say that laws of logic are just brute facts, and I say God just exists, it's a brute fact that he exists, then he I can agree. Well, then the laws of logic are facts. I won't say just brute facts, but they're facts. But that God is the condition that makes it possible.

[00:50:19]So, when I use your logic against you or you apply it, I win, so to speak, you know. I win the argument. Okay. Right.

[00:50:26]Right. So, then let's but that's just a side note. Now, let's go back into it.

[00:50:29]All right. So, you might say, "Well, the the laws of logic, uh you know, that they they're just things we construct in our minds as we observe things." Well, your mind and my mind are different. So, which mind is correct if we have different conclusions about what we're observing logically?

[00:50:45]Now, we have a problem there. Oh, so they're they're universal, right?

[00:50:49][clears throat] If they're universal, then that brings up another problem.

[00:50:52]Because if they're universal truths, how does one particular mind establish universal truths for all other minds?

[00:50:59]>> [clears throat] >> And if you're going to say, "Well, they don't." Well, you just observe them, then you're back to the the same problem. You're observing logic, right?

[00:51:08]Okay, so do you observe that if A equals B and B equals C, then A equals C? Where do you observe that in reality? You don't observe it. It's called the law of proper inference.

[00:51:17]If you and it's called the indiscernibility of identicals. So, if you you know, understand that A equals B and B equals C, then A equals C, well, then, okay, great.

[00:51:28]Then you don't observe that. You conclude it, which is a process of the mind.

[00:51:33]So, logic is mind-based.

[00:51:35]So, now I'm going to ask him, does logic occur in the mind? Yes.

[00:51:40]And it doesn't occur It's not based on the physical realm. So, the physical realm is void as far as being explanatory issues here as far as why the laws of logic are. So they are the mind because logic occurs in the mind.

[00:51:54]They say well computers occurs in computers. Well, technically it's just physics that's occurring in the computer when an intelligent designer puts it together.

[00:52:04]And then that you know that they don't go down that road. All right. So So then I say the laws of logic are invariant. That means they don't change.

[00:52:11]They're ubiquitous. Now we can't prove they're ubiquitous.

[00:52:14]But that's another issue which is a side note to go down but we won't we don't have time right now. And so they're they're they're invariant everywhere cuz they weren't everywhere we couldn't when people let me just say this. When people say to me, well, we don't know if they're invariant they could change. I'd say, well, if that's the case then blue sleeps faster than Wednesday.

[00:52:32]That I just say that to them.

[00:52:34]And and they say this makes sense. And I'll say no blue blue pop-tarts. That's right. And no, I'm not green but on Tuesdays I'm sometimes elephantish.

[00:52:43]And they what are you talking about?

[00:52:45]Well, if if the laws of logic aren't consistent then the law of identity is no longer valid consistent. So anything can be anything and randomness is true, right?

[00:52:54]So Okay. So then I'll get into this.

[00:52:56]I'll say so what must be the case for universal abstract entities? An abstract entity is something that occurs in the mind and an entity doesn't mean it's alive. It's just an existing thing but it exists in the mind conceptually. The universal abstract entity. Well, then what must be the case in order for universal abstract entities to exist? The universal abstract entities are these laws of logic, law of identity, law of non-contradiction, law of excluded middle, law of proper inference, modus ponens, modus tollens, you have different things.

[00:53:27]Where do these things reside? Where do they reside? Well, they reside and I just get in chase in the mind of God. In the mind? In the mind of God. If we presuppose the Christian Trinity, we can account for the ubiquity, universality, and the trustworthiness of the laws of logic. But, if we look from your worldview, nothing makes sense. And then I say to them, "Next."

[00:53:51]>> [clears throat] >> All right. Sounds great. Thank you.

[00:53:56]Okay.

[00:53:57]All right. Thanks, Matt. Thank you, [clears throat] sir.

[00:53:58]>> Hope that helps.

[00:54:00]Thank you, sir. Thanks. Okay. God bless.

[00:54:03]All right. Uh let's get to Richard from Michigan.

[00:54:07]Welcome, Richard. You're on the air.

[00:54:10]Yes. Hi, Matt. Um if you struggle with a certain sin, and you're in a place where you could change your playground and playmate, and if you if you do that, um Wait a bit. I'm I'm confused.

[00:54:31][clears throat] You're running from sin in a playground with a playmate. So, now I don't see the connection.

[00:54:38]>> you're changing your playground and playmates. Um and and you're stuck in a certain sin. Okay.

[00:54:45]Let's not use the analogy of playgrounds with sin. It's not a good look, okay?

[00:54:52]Okay. Okay.

[00:54:54]So, um what's your question then?

[00:54:59]Well, um if if if Well, I'm trying to get at is that um Yeah. It I mean, if you struggle with a certain type of sin, I mean, I don't know.

[00:55:19]I What I'm trying to get How about this?

[00:55:20]How about this?

[00:55:22]It's okay. Okay. Go ahead. We have 1 minute left of the show. Let me just throw this out at you. You can um hide from your sins, but uh uh God will find you out. If you have sins and struggles that you're going through, then you need to get on your knees on a regular basis, and and uh Philippians 4:6-8 is good.

[00:55:40]Philippians 4. [clears throat] Okay, got noise in the background, but I'm going to put you on hold. Okay. We have I say go to Philippians 4:6-8, and it'll help you because you need to put into your mind the things of God so that gradually they replace the things that are evil. You have to ask God to continually work in you and through you to strengthen you through the difficulties and the sins that sometimes have a stranglehold on us. It takes sometimes a long time, and in the process of growing closer to Christ, you bring glory to him as you go to the cross every day, all the time, every way. Now, I can't get me much further than that because the music's going to start. And got to get going. Call back tomorrow, all right? If you would, Richard, call back tomorrow. Let's talk about it some more because more people need to know about this.

[00:56:26]All right, folks, there we go. You know, Lord bless you and by his grace, I'm back on here tomorrow, Friday.

[00:56:32]Friday already. Wow.

[00:56:34]And by his uh great grace, I hope you have a great evening.

[00:56:37]God bless. Talk to you later.

[00:57:08]All right, test 1 2. Okay, it's test sounds good.

[00:57:13]Good.

[00:57:17]Woo.

[00:57:20]All right, that was uh one Yeah, Friday tomorrow. I can't believe this has been a fast week, hasn't it?

[00:57:31]I know.

[00:57:33]Man, it's been fast.

[00:57:37]I don't You really screwed me up because you said, I think it was Wednesday, you thought it was Tuesday, and then today things came up. I was like, I don't have anything going tomorrow, and just totally spaced off that it's Thursday.

[00:57:53]That's when I have a lady from church come over to my house and do Bible study. I'm just like, what? I'm so sorry. I I plan stuff, so yeah. [snorts and clears throat] >> Messed you up, huh? Yes, it was your fault. I blame you. Okay, good. No problem.

[00:58:11]That's right.

[00:58:13]Well, it was a good show, some good questions, some good email stuff that came through. Um I I I'd walked away for a a minute. Um there was somebody who asked in the beginning of the show, how does pre- happen is presuppositional apologetics used against other world views? Oh, it's easy. Aside from atheism, like Hinduism and etc. Yeah, you What I do is always find out the most basic position, and then undermine the most basic position.

[00:58:50]Because you presuppose that only the Christian world view's basic position, basic ultimate is the grounding for everything, and that means every other one fails. It just takes time for you to figure out where their ultimate is. Like in Hinduism, Brahma is sometimes personal and impersonal.

[00:59:08]Well, if you talk to somebody, for example, and they say Brahma is an impersonal force, then you can ask questions. Is that Brahma the ultimate source of all things? Yes. Is impersonal? Yes. Then how does the impersonal bring about the personal?

[00:59:23]It's the question.

[00:59:24]Because now I know the the basics, what their foundation is, and now I ask questions to show the difficulties with that position.

[00:59:32]You're getting order from non-order, life from non-life, and intelligence from non-intelligence, and personhood from non-person. I said, "How does that work? What's the guiding principle that works that, that produces it? Because the result or the cause has to be greater than the result in effect, uh to bring something into existence."

[00:59:54]And so, uh "How do you explain that?" And then that's what you do presuppositionally, is you presuppose the validity of the Christian worldview with a Christian Trinity.

[01:00:04]This is why the doctrine of the Trinity is so critically important to understand. And how the Trinity relates in actuality and logic, morality, uh fellowship, and things like that.

[01:00:13]Once you understand these things, then what you can do is go learn how to attack how to disclose the ultimate in another worldview, and then compare the ultimates, and you'll see how [snorts] their ultimate can't work.

[01:00:29]Okay?

[01:00:31]>> [clears throat] >> Sounds good. Oh, and and and that question with Paul Washer, I I've watched him play I've never seen him talk about works. He's he's very reformed. Um and he's a person when you watch him, you leave there convicted, which is great, you know.

[01:00:51]Comfortable Christianity, they won't watch him because they will be convicted. That's right.

[01:00:57]Yeah, I read his statement of faith at his church while that was going on, and he's right down the middle. He's good.

[01:01:04]He's good.

[01:01:06]Yeah. And he's included in a documentary that exposes some of the excesses of the uh prosperity teaching and stuff, so Good. he's just as sensitive to those care charis-maniacs, I call them.

[01:01:21]Yeah.

[01:01:22]Then that you know like as it should be.

[01:01:25]Yeah.

[01:01:27]Right. Okay.

[01:01:29]Well, good. That's That's good. Yeah.

[01:01:33]So, it must have been something. She must have misunderstood or you know, didn't take things in context or he could have said something. I It just seems uh strange for me to to him misstate that because that's something that he's usually right on top of. No, like if by grace you've been saved through faith, you know, so That's right. I found sometimes people are told something [clears throat] by a person they respect and just cuz they respect them, they take it as being accurate. So, even second-hand misunderstandings can move people in that direction. So, hopefully she checks him out because he's in there with R.C. Sproul and Well, he's a good guy. Yeah, he's a good guy.

[01:02:22]Well, I always tell everybody be a Berean. You can go and look for yourself. You go research and make sure what you're hearing is correct instead of just taking somebody's word for it and running with it as that is truth.

[01:02:34]Yeah, that's where it's at.

[01:02:36]>> [clears throat] >> That's right. [snorts] Paul gave them in Berea the most high compliments when he said they were more noble than those in Thessalonica. The Thessalonians went ahead and accepted what he was teaching with readiness. He said, >> [clears throat] >> "You guys in Berea, you topped them by checking the scriptures daily to make sure what I'm saying is truth." So, yeah.

[01:02:59]Being a Berean is That's where it's at.

[01:03:03]That's right.

[01:03:10]Ah.

[01:03:16]Okay, anybody coming in? All right. don't think so.

[01:03:21]Okay.

[01:03:22]Did you see what uh here, let's close the Yeah, close that.

[01:03:25]>> up a little bit, yeah. Okay.

[01:03:30]Let's see uh and uh Oh, before you speak