In prison environments, individuals who steal often develop a mindset where they rationalize their actions as necessary for survival, believing they must 'hustle' to get their own resources rather than asking for help, which can lead to continued criminal behavior even when they have sufficient resources, as the act of stealing itself becomes an adrenaline rush rather than a means to an end.
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Bless the ones that we try to teach.
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[music] We tired of fighting each other, trying to bring peace. Bless the ones who fighting for they marriage. Bless the kids. Bless the parents. Bless the hood.
>> [singing] >> Bless the prison. Open up they eyes, give them vision. Okay, so boom. I tried to save Sticky Fingers. Sticky Fingers was a little young dude that came to the penitentiary and his hustle was stealing. He had got caught a few times and people tried to sympathize with him because he was stealing things like hygiene, soap, toothpaste, dental floss, and trying to flip it deodorant and trying to go and trade it for food. But what he was doing, he was stealing it. He started stealing it from white boys who was getting high or weren't really a factor or weren't affiliated. So, when he would take it to people and sell it, you know, they would give it to him and they would always try to give him a little speech. I just so happened to be in the cell one day when it had happened. I always Everybody called him Sticky Fingers cuz everybody knew, you know what I'm saying, that's what he doing. If he was at the microwave, it would I stick Hey, y'all might want to check y'all cell. Man, Sticky Fingers at the microwave. He got He got He got a full course meal. Sticky Fingers at the microwave. Nine times out of 10, he don't want to flip something, right? And he was And like he was how he dressed and how he carried himself and let you know like he was in there for he was a serial burglar. Like he was always breaking in people houses and stealing stuff and ended up on probation and stole some other ended up coming to the penitentiary. I'm sitting in I'm in the cell with 10:30 one day.
He come tapping on the door. 10:30 got the soap.
Knock knock knock.
10:30 10:30 10:30 Hey, what's up?
10:30 look at me. I look at him. We look at each other. He said, "Man, what's up, Sticky Fingers?"
Man, I'm trying to eat something, man.
10:30 Man, come on. He popped the door.
He come in. 10:30 said, Man, hey.
Don't come up here, man, trying He said, "Nah nah nah nah, we good. We good. We good. We good." He like, "Man, I'm just trying to see if I can The man pulled out about five bars of soap. This how you know he was stealing.
He got Irish Spring.
He got Dove.
He got Dial.
And I can't remember the name of the other one.
And he got a toothpaste.
You could tell this is he done hit four five different cells and grabbed a bar of soap. He got about eight nine dollars worth of hygiene.
10:30 They talk for a little minute.
10:30 go ahead and give him the food.
When he walk out the When he walk out of the cell, he didn't like dump the food. He kept a lot of the food in his hand.
So soon as he walk out, 10:30 said, Man, he got that from somebody across the hall, didn't he, Jo T? 10:30 go back out 10:30 Hey hey hey hey, come here come here come here come here come here.
Come here, Sticky Fingers. Come here.
Sticky Fingers come back in the cell, walk in. Bless soul, he said, "What's up, 10:30?" I told y'all I was good. He said, "I believed you when you walked out the cell cuz you didn't put nothing in it." He said, "But, let me find out you went across the highway and stole something from one of my folks."
He said, "Man, I would never I would never do nothing like that, 10:30. I wouldn't go over and then come over here >> [snorts] >> and get something from the box." I said, "Hey, Sticky Fingers, why you be running here stealing anyway?"
He said, "Man, everybody got to stay hustling in the penitentiary, man. When I got here, didn't nobody want to give me nothing, man. You know what I'm saying? I got to do what I got to do, you know what I'm saying, when I can, you know what I'm saying?" I said to 10:30, I said, "And if you know" 10:30 said, "Man, look, if somebody came and asked me anyway, all I know is the man came and bargained with me."
I said, "Well, when he came in the cell and said what he said at first, you know what I'm saying, you acted like it was an issue." He was like, "Nah, I was just messing with him."
Sticky Fingers said, "Man, I come up here and spin with 10:30 all the time, man. That man don't care That man don't care nothing about that.
He always trying to give me a hard time, JT, but he still going to take whatever whatever I'm giving him." I tell him I said, "Man, if you ever need something, bro." I said, "Man, just come and holler at me and ask me for it." Sticky Fingers said, "Man, JT, man, you know, my mama, man, she always told me, man, bless the child that's got his own."
The first time I ever heard that saying was in the penitentiary. I always heard people say bless the child that got his own because it was a popular saying in prison because people who didn't have it had to go ask it or had to steal or had to get in debt.
It always turned into a situation.
You was better off, you was more peaceful, and kept out of situations if you had your own stuff. You ain't have to go ask.
You wasn't a part of nobody conversation after you don't walked out and asked.
You wouldn't somebody that walk by and like or you seen somebody seen somebody seen you paying somebody and they say to somebody else uh he over there paying such and such he owe me. You ain't never had to worry about that. So, I heard so many people saying bless the child that got his own and it never really sit in on me until later on in later on in the penitentiary because I started thinking about it just in life on the outside of in prison. Like people who live in peaceful lives are the people who really go to work and take care of their business and manage their money and not have to worry about issues having to go borrow and having to beg somebody or having to be the butt of somebody jokes because they always got their hand out or burning bridges because after they gave them something they still went and done the same thing creating the same cycle as the blessed the child uh that got his own. He told me he was like man my mama told me you know what I'm saying need to learn how to take care of take care of yourself. And he was like man I was young my mama would tell me that you know man man just see I'm 12 13. This man ain't nothing but like 23 24 at the time.
Man it's a man my mama used to tell me all the time man uh you need to figure out how to get your own stuff. I ain't going to always when he's here but I ain't going to always give it to you need it. I ain't feeling And he was like really that's how I got into you know what I'm saying stealing you know what I'm saying. I was stealing stuff and taking it to the pawn shop and getting 10 15 dollars and then go to the dice game with that try to shoot dice and you know what I'm saying and do just little stuff like that. He was explaining how he got into a cycle of trying to have his own but he got into it the wrong the wrong way.
Until that he said well as long long as you don't never take nothing from me, yeah, we ain't going to never have no issue. Which is another situation Which is another issue, especially when it come to our culture. Because when when you living with a poverty mindset and you come from people who live in poverty, living poverty-stricken, right?
You all all of us get the mindset of not knocking nobody hustle, even when it's taking the food or puts taking the food out of somebody or is causing harm to somebody because we all trying to respect the hustle because we all in a rat race and trying to get something. So, we cool with crime. We cool with violence. We cool with people uh being cunning and doing whatever they got to do to survive. So, when it come to things that 10:30 was saying like that, I had always heard little references just like out here in the world and let them live They living their best life, man. Leave them alone.
You saying that because you cool with believing with doing whatever you want to do, however you want to do it, just be that level of free with no structure, no no not being organized, not managing your bread, just living a life because you feel entitled to certain things that you never had, but you don't understand the detriment that can happen when you ain't really balancing your life and doing it right. But, when somebody try to hold you accountable and try to hold you responsible for them actions, you want to say, man, I'm living my best life, man. Let me do Let me do me.
Like little stuff like that, you got to you got to have the right people around you that can tell you, hey, I hear you, but you know what I'm saying? So, what 10:30 say, man, long as you don't take nothing from me, at that time, I kind of got that mindset, too. But, I also realized there were people who were hanging me living them street codes. There were people who was cool with hanging with certain people.
On some, he didn't tell on me, so I don't care.
So, you got to be mindful of people who will say stuff like what 10:30 said because somebody like Sticky Fingers can take something from me.
And he ain't going even if 10:30 seen it, clearly 10:30 will still swap out whatever it is so he can feed himself and GD.
And he ain't going care that he took it from me even though he said, "I hope you didn't take none of this from none of my folk." When you say, "Man, long as you ain't stealing from me."
Long as they steal from the folks and don't get caught, you will swap that out. You cool with it long as it don't come back on you when it come to this box and you knew that he took. So, when 10:30 said I'm like, "Nah, 10:30 man, that ain't straight, man."
"What you mean that ain't straight, Joe T? Man, we in the penitentiary, bro.
Huh? He He ain't coming in here taking nothing from Larry. I'm I'm straight. He ain't taking nothing from nobody from Larry." I just kind of look at him like and just take a mental note.
Because you got to be mindful of stuff like that.
So, we finish up the conversation with Sticky Fingers. He leave on out of the cell.
And as the days go by, you know, Sticky Fingers just he he he popping out. He he standing out to me when when he moving around. So, they they call big yard.
Everybody go out to the big yard. A lot of people go out to the big yard. It's just a few people out in the unit. Two or three of the guys we didn't go, but they in the cell. I'm walking around.
I'm walking around the catwalk over here Nick come out of the cell.
He man, "What you doing, Joe T?"
I said, "Man, I ain't doing nothing, man. Walking and pondering, man. Just just thinking." "What you thinking about?"
"Man, thinking about life. You know what I'm saying? What I want to do when I get out of the penitentiary."
This is This is around the time I had uh come up with this this idea called uh um It was like the show Cheaters cuz I used to watch Cheaters, but it was called Joe Baker Man the Hater Man.
I had did a song to it and everything and what I wanted to do was I wanted to do like a little reality show like Cheaters, but I wanted to film people friends who they knew was haters. And they would say all kind of hating things like, "Man, he thought he was really hating shoes on." And record it and then come out and catch them, you know what I'm saying? And let them know that they was a hater. Like I wanted to do so I had wrote a Joe Baker Man, the Hater Man. Where them haters at? Man, they everywhere. Better watch your back. They hate on me. They hate on you. They hate on They hate you, too. And I Like I had I had wrote a whole little uh song to it and everything. So, I'm telling him about, you know, some of my ideas and stuff.
And as we walking, I see Sticky Fingers um walking around in the unit and uh Old Head Nick said, "There he There he go. There he go. Somebody Somebody going to hurt him. Somebody going to hurt him."
I said, "Nah, ain't nobody going to do nothing to him." He said, "Nah, I'm telling you." He said, "The best thing to the best thing to happen the best thing that can happen for him is somebody to do something to him." I said, "Why you say that?" "Because he ain't going to realize I said, "I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one, Old Head Nick, because you would think that a person like that would quit doing it after it got him sent to prison."
I said, "Even in coming to prison, it They don't do nothing to really rehabilitate your mindset. So, you come in here with this." I'm like, he locked up for stealing.
It's a lot of dudes in here locked up for selling dope.
They come in here and they know to survive off selling dope and still try to take care of their family outside of there. And them having getting caught in school zones and having 25, 30 years ain't stopped them from selling dope."
He said, "That's kind of different because when you got 25, 30 years." I said, "No." You would think that somebody who want to renew their mind would try to move and do something completely different. I said, "Here in the penitentiary." I said, "What can you do to feed yourself?" You know what I'm saying? He said, "Man, three highs in a cot."
He said, "Man, you know I said, 'I ain't got conversation all the time.'" I said, "But when you first came to the penitentiary, old head Nick, that wasn't your mindset. You done everything that everybody else doing when they come to the penitentiary. You done sold dope in here. You done got over on people you probably done popped in a couple of times, had some officers here and there." I said, "Man, everybody" He said, "You right about that." He said, "Everybody do got to go through the process, man." He just a young dude. He was like, you know, he don't listen to nobody. He said, "Man, it's been a few times where he done got in these altercations." And he He was like, "Man, he he he flagged."
I said, "Do what?" He was like, "They call him sticky fingers." Like everybody know he steal. So, when he come up and people start trying to figure out I said, "And as we talking" he go in somebody's cell, white boy, and grab something, boom, and and just walk out.
Old head Nick say, See? See?
I said, "Sticky fingers." He look up and hold on. And Keywuan said, "Nah, come here, come here, come here, come here, right." I was like, "Nah, come here, come here, homey." I told old head Nick, I said, "Let me holler at him, Rico. I'm going to holler at him. I'm going to come back and holler at you." He said, "Man, ain't no saving that boy, Jo T." I said, "I'm going to holler at him."
He come up the steps. I said, "Man, take that back down now." I said, "Whatever it is, whatever you trying to sell, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to I'm I'll give it back to you."
He said, "Take what back where, Jo T?"
I said, "Homey, I just seen you stepping in the cell. I said, you grabbed something. I said, go back down now and put that put that back in the cell." I said, "And I I'll break bread with you, homey." I was like, "I told you come out." He said, "Man, I told you, Jo T, man, blessed the child that's got his own, man. I ain't for to re-run around here asking nobody for nothing." I said, "But you going to put yourself in a situation because you don't want to humble yourself and just go ahead and say, 'Hey, let me get a super tooth.'" He would like, "Man, J Roc, it's it's bigger than that." He said, "Before you I I I I I bet that, J Roc. You right.
Bet that. Bet that." And when he go back down there to put it back in the cell, a white boy see him. He would like, "Hey, Sticky Fingers, man. Hey, come out of my partner's cell, man. What are you doing, man?" And he would like, "Man, I'm trying to spray your homeboy here."
>> [laughter] >> Sticky Fingers would like, "I'm trying to spray your homeboy. You wouldn't even see what was going on had it not been for me trying to do the right thing. I'm trying to do the right thing." And white boy walking over by him. He done walked away from the cell. He walking back towards the step. I see the white boy. I said, "Hey."
I said, "Man, I I said, I got him, man.
I said, I got him. Don't worry about it." He would like, "Nah, man. Hold on, man." And he grabbed Sticky Fingers.
Sticky Fingers would like, "Hey, hey, what you doing, white boy, man? Get your hands up off me." He would like, "Nah, man." Sticky Fingers push him.
The white boy push him. I'm going down the steps. I'm finna He would like, "Man, you need to stay out of people's cell, man." He saying this. And it's just a few people in the pod. So, I go down there, man. I tell the white I'm like, "Look, look, look." I'm like, "Man, chill, man." I was like, "Man, I got him, man." I told him put it back. I was like, "Man, it's a dead issue." I was like, "Man, I'm going to take care of it." Now, J Roc, he would like, "Man, he need to Man, we don't need people like him in our unit, man." And he still I said, "Man, I just told you I got him, man. Leave it alone, man." And by that time, he walked out. Me and Sticky Fingers walking. He would like, "Man, J Roc, man, I'm finna whoop that white boy, man. I'm finna I'm telling you, man, I'm finna whoop him, man. He don't know who he messing with, man, for real." I was like, "Man, step in Step in the cell. Come come step in the cell, homeboy."
We get in the cell. He walk in. Man, bless his soul.
I said, "Man, you can't fight the white boy." And I said, "Man, if they come and got anything to say, I said, man, I'm going to I'm going to handle it for you." I was like, "Man, what you what you trying to get?" He said, "Man, J Roc, it ain't even about the food, man."
He would like, "Man, I'm addicted to this. This what I do."
I said, "What you I said, do What What you What you What you mean, Sticky Fingers?" He would like, "Man, I've been doing this for so long." He would like, "Man, it ain't even necessarily that I want to eat all the time. Sometimes it's just an It's just an adrenaline rush just to do it.
I said, "Homie, so you sometimes you just steal just to steal?"
He was like, "Nah, I don't want to say just to steal just to steal. It's just like just to getting away with it. You know what I'm saying? Like walking around, seeing who all looking, what angles everybody standing at, and just seeing, you know what I'm saying, a dope crack real quick. I can boom boom. You know what I'm saying? He was like, "And then you know when you open the door like the hygiene shelf right there at the door." He was like, "Man, and then the police turn this way and I just want to, you know what I'm saying, boom boom boom." He was like, "Man, you come down to my city like, man, don't you see I got I got food down there. I got plenty of food down there."
I said, "For real?" He was like, "Yeah, man, I got plenty I got about $75 worth of food down there right now."
I said, "Well, why you doing that and put yourself put yourself in the situation?" He said, "Nah, I wouldn't have been in no situation. I pulled it out. I just went on and took it back cuz you thinking you you all in my business with you all in my business thinking I need something and really I was just like, man, I don't even need it anyway.
I'll take it back. I got plenty of food down there and hygiene down there. And you thinking you doing a good thing. I just was trying to be like, you know what Joe Tee told me, take it back. I'm going to take it back."
I said, "Man, whole time I'm thinking, man, let me help the brother." He was like, "Nah, that ain't what it is." Now I'm thinking about what old head Nick done said.
And it And it still is because it's deeply rooted in what I said to old head Nick.
I said, "Homie, you need to quit doing that then because you you got to have some kind of hustle about yourself. Like do something else versus stealing." So he was like, "Man, forget these white boys, Joe Tee, man. What they going to do? They they can't whoop me. They can't whoop me."
And that mindset always threw me off, too, talking about that the white boys can't whoop me. So they feel like they could do and get over on the white boys a certain kind of way.
We finish up that conversation. He going about his business.
Some weeks go by.
He um he running he he doing a run for somebody and they um selling Suboxones.
And they done I'm guessing they trying to help help him hustle and do something different so they so he kind of like a runner and they done trusted him enough to go in wherever whatever was at and get the Suboxone and go serve whoever they serving.
So he get the Suboxone and steal some of uh steal a piece of a Suboxone from a Suboxone that was already with it however whatever it it was. He stole from the person he biting the hand that feed you.
He go serve the person boom boom.
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